On 06/26/2018 04:23 PM, Matthew R. Trower wrote:
Jon Trulson <j...@radscan.com> writes:
On 06/25/2018 07:40 AM, Matthew R. Trower wrote:
Jon Trulson <j...@radscan.com> writes:
Hey, as it turns out, XRandR is supported just fine through the current
multihead code (as much as multihead works at all, anyway). So that's
cool news. There's still fair bit of polish left to do on multihead in
general (and on sizing bugs on single-head...).
Do we actually use Xrandr? I know the DtXinerama stuff I wrote only
uses the XINERAMA extension. In theory, with XRANDR we'd be able to
be notified when screens change resolution, new screens are
added/removed, etc. That kind of stuff would be nice to at least
"play nicely" with.
Well, no. XRandR systems provide Xinerama compatibility, so the
multihead code we have works fine there (I had previously, erroneously,
indicated that it did not). This is all I meant.
Right, that's what I thought. XRANDR is more "dynamic" IIRC. At the
time I did the XINERAMA stuff, it didn't exist. :)
CDE actually does run under en_US.UTF-8 locale (this is primarily how I
run it). Some things are broken --- some of the man pages render a
little funny, dtinfo main library browser doesn't know what directory to
pull documents from (although auxilliary components appear to work
fine).
Well, I need to understand this more. It sort of works, but doesn't.
I think it's more a hack to just get UTF8 fonts to work... I'm not
clear. Certainly none of the docs are en_US.UTF-8, and many things do
not work (font-wise), like as you mention dtterm.
How the greek support you mentioned in another thread relate to this?
I'd completely forgotten that we had that. Is it considered a complete
working UTF-8 environment?
Well, that's a good question... It is in CDE, but I get the feeling it's
not complete... Antonis might be able to tell us if it works out of the
box with current CDE. I just seem to recall that there was some stuff
he did on hiw own, that was not merged into CDE. So I don't know. But
I know it *can* work - I've seen his screen shots :)
I expect that dtterm is not multi-byte capable.
I know dtterm is MB capable - I remember spending a lot of time
getting the Japanese locales working in the "old days". I remember
there were bugs, but it worked fairly well. dtterm is an odd beast -
try running that in a en_US.UTF-8 locale outside CDE and it's clearly
not doing the right thing, so definitely some work still needs doing
there.
Oh, that's excellent --- I had feared this might be difficult to
implement. If that's already done... well, maybe I'll have a look at
en_US.UTF-8 sooner rather than later. LANG C isn't really an option for
me.
Yes... At the time the JP locale was very important -- that and some
unsupported CN locales are probably what prompted the push for MB work
in CDE... (not UTF of course, but rather MB ISO locales).
I remember getting the JP locales working properly was mainly a problem
of poor support in libc/glibc at the time. We actually implemented an
X11-based locale system (XINTL) that worked well enough for JP locales
to finally work in the XiG CDE.
I am sure the OS localalization stuff works fine now :) Motif also
support UTF-8, so it may, as you say, be a matter of some translation of
message catalogs (using iconv), choosing the right ISO10646 fonts, and
maybe minor fixups. I don't really know as at the time of my XiG work,
how internationalization worked was a mystery to me, though I could fix
a problem when it core dumped :)
-jon
-mrt
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