I forgot - one other thing good about dtmail (esp. on someone running on a tiny system, like that Raspberry Pi, maybe) is that it's far less of a memory hog than e.g. Thunderbird.
> On Jun 26, 2018, at 22:15, Richard L. Hamilton <rlha...@smart.net> wrote: > > Signed PGP part > I suppose one could come up with a configuration file for Thunderbird that > used dtaction commands to have the CDE type handling mechanism deal with as > many as possible (and relatively safe, e.g. NOT shell scripts) attachment > types. That would allow some degree of natural integration. Add to that a > theme for Thunderbird that gave it a more Motif-like look (and maybe multiple > versions of it to match some of the CDE color scheme choices), and IMO it > wouldn't be too bad. The theme part would take some work from someone that > knows how, but a lot less work probably than modernizing dtmail. > > The only thing I really liked about dtmail (Sun's version, where the IMAP > actually worked, although not with TLS, as I recall) was that it could work > with either local mailboxes or IMAP; and if migrating to IMAP from local > mailboxes and one used an IMAP server that could handle the existing mailbox > format, it was fairly painless and one could always fall back. The lack of > inline display for HTML or RTF definitely was not nice, although back then, I > didn't necessarily expect those anyway. > >> On Jun 26, 2018, at 19:19, Jon Trulson <j...@radscan.com> wrote: >> >> On 06/26/2018 05:09 PM, Robert Pangrazio wrote: >>> I’ll see if I can find my exact setup, but that doesn’t sound right. I >>> wasn’t deleting messages as I was able to see them from multiple devices. >>> I have an AWS server I use for my own projects, including CDE where I had >>> it set up. And since I access it through a website, why not just access my >>> gmail in a different tab. It was more of a proof of concept and not really >>> something I use all the time. >>> It was however, in my opinion, a bit of a hack. And if somebody wants to >>> put true modern email server support in that would be awesome. >>> I’ve been investigating html rendering for a little bit. I’ve been trying >>> to find the best way to integrate it into the system. I’ve looked at >>> including html rendering widgets like xmhtml, using chromes rendering >>> engine, or even including code from mosaic. >>> I do have a question though. I have been looking at some other email >>> clients and wondering if we don’t replace dtmail with them. Redo the ui to >>> match dtmail, but keep everything underneath the same. Is this an approach >>> anybody would even entertain? I’m not sure I like it, but the thought had >>> occurred. >> >> That sounds problematic in terms of licensing and work (maintenance)... >> >> That's why I was thinking to just use thunderbird, just like we will use >> firefox/chrome/whatever for web browsing, rather than try to invent a CDE >> web browser. >> >> That's what I use now with a dozen or so accounts, accessed securely, some >> using client certs even. :) >> >> We could "deprecate" dtmail, and maybe eventually remove it. I just don't >> see someone jumping in and giving it the love it needs to be comparable to a >> modern email client. It might happen, but I wouldn't bet any money on it. >> >> -jon >> >>> Thanks >>> Robert Pangrazio >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> *From:* Matthew R. Trower <d...@blackshard.net> >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 26, 2018 5:27 PM >>> *To:* cdesktopenv-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>> *Subject:* Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Modernization and re-tooling >>> Robert Pangrazio <rpangra...@gmail.com> writes: >>>> Also, I have used dtmail with GMail/IMAP using a local relay via >>>> procmail to sync it to the local mailbox. Sending was via a local >>>> sendmail relay. Worked great. I think the bigger issue is the lack of >>>> HTML support. I couldn't read a lot of my emails because of it. >>> My experience was that when using fetchmail (or getmail, or dtmail's >>> builtin IMAP), you cannot leave messages on the server. If you do, they >>> will be repeatedly fetched, causing much duplication. Local deletion >>> also does not propagate back to the server. This is not how IMAP was >>> intended to work; it is glorified POP. >>> Does this not match your experience? >>> Ah, HTML... yeah, as much as I try to avoid such mail, I suppose >>> something should be done for it... >>> -mrt >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most >>> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot >>> _______________________________________________ >>> cdesktopenv-devel mailing list >>> cdesktopenv-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/cdesktopenv-devel >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most >>> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot >>> _______________________________________________ >>> cdesktopenv-devel mailing list >>> cdesktopenv-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/cdesktopenv-devel >> >> -- >> Jon Trulson >> >> "Fire all weapons and open a hailing frequency for my victory yodle." >> >> - Zapp Brannigan >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most >> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot >> _______________________________________________ >> cdesktopenv-devel mailing list >> cdesktopenv-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/cdesktopenv-devel >> > >
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