[cctalk] Re: Try Algol 68 on Windows

2025-01-14 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 at 09:17, Mike Parr via cctalk wrote: > > Hello all. > Here is a link to something I wrote - brief intro to Algol 68's background, > and how to run it on Windows - with a toy IDE as well. > https://mikeparr.info/algol68.html I have no idea if this is connected in any way, but

[cctalk] Re: Try Algol 68 on Windows

2025-01-14 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 at 02:02, Joseph S. Barrera III via cctalk wrote: > > I would expect universal condemnation for anyone who would ask if FLACC > were designed for floppies. Er. Is this a somewhat tortuous joke about the large file sizes of the FLAC audio compression format, its resultant large

[cctalk] Re: A bit of humor to test the list

2024-12-05 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 4 Dec 2024 at 18:56, Mike Katz via cctalk wrote: > > I still say the 6809 was the best 8 bit micro ever. By "micro" here you mean "microprocessor" rather than the more usual "microcomputer", yes? Not being an assembly level programmer, I never cared, but this may interest 6809 fans: Arg

[cctalk] Re: Running DOS executables on other versions of DOSRe: Looking for Sharp PC-5000 disk drive (CE-510F or possibly MZ-80B)

2024-11-05 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 4 Nov 2024 at 20:09, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > > I used Elephant. Still have piles of them and they are all still > readable (and probably writable but I don't want to lose the data > they hold.) This is interesting. I had no recollection at all of Elephant branded media, and

[cctalk] Re: OS2 on a ThinkPad

2024-10-31 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 31 Oct 2024 at 01:30, Ken Seefried via cctalk wrote: > > I tried to install Warp 4 on a T42 while back. I concur...it was a pain in > the butt, and never worked well enough to stick with it. I can believe that. I have several legit copies of eComStation somewhere but I got the version o

[cctalk] Re: Ward Christensen NY Times Obituary

2024-10-31 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 24 Oct 2024 at 20:24, Wayne S via cctalk wrote: > They had a lot of local numbers so you didn’t have to pay Toll charges. Only in the USA, or maybe N America. Most of the world, AFAIK, we all paid for all calls, local and long-distance. Local was cheaper but it was by the minute which r

[cctalk] Re: Passing of Edson (Ed) De Castro, Founder of Data General

2024-10-15 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 at 01:14, Evan Linwood via cctalk wrote: > And of course most of us know of Tracy Kidder's Pulitzer prize-winning book, > The Soul of a New Machine. Oh, my, of course yes. This is sad news. I wonder if I can talk my editor into a belated obit? I feel too ignorant though...

[cctalk] Re: Valuable floppy archiving: seeking current best practice

2024-10-10 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 9 Oct 2024 at 19:25, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote: > > It sounds like the Apple //e of Europe :D I think there were more _unofficial_ Spectrum clones than Apple ][ clones. We didn't know about them until after the fall of the Iron Curtain and the rise of the Web though. _Official_ Spec

[cctalk] Re: Valuable floppy archiving: seeking current best practice

2024-10-09 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 9 Oct 2024 at 15:50, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > > The whole thing could be summarized under "How I spent my summer > vacation" or "The big C and me". Ohshit. Sorry to hear that. I hope that they nuke you till you glow and it's successful. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me

[cctalk] Re: Valuable floppy archiving: seeking current best practice

2024-10-09 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 9 Oct 2024 at 04:37, ben via cctalk wrote: > Dos also has no subdirectories. (?) > So did the hundreds of other 8 bit operating > systems. (??) I used several which did. MGT G+DOS was my personal favourite. MSX-DOS is CP/M-binary-compatible but uses MS-DOS FAT disks, with directories,

[cctalk] Re: Valuable floppy archiving: seeking current best practice

2024-10-09 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 9 Oct 2024 at 01:05, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > By refusing to create a "secondary" standard, he avoided dilution of > the standard Well, I mean yes, in a theoretical ideal world. https://xkcd.com/927/ But in fact, what he really did was make DOS FAT the standard. With versions fo

[cctalk] Re: Valuable floppy archiving: seeking current best practice

2024-10-09 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 9 Oct 2024 at 02:25, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > (still kicking, barely) Oh no! Glad to hear that you are, but something prompted that... Dare I ask? -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/LinkedIn

[cctalk] Re: Data General MV/8000 emulator announcement

2024-10-07 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sat, 5 Oct 2024 at 17:38, Harald Arnesen via cctalk wrote: > Have you tried to run any libc5-program lately? Or a.out binaries? Does WordPerfect 8 (released in 1998) count? If so, yes, I have: https://www.theregister.com/2022/07/20/wordperfect_for_unix_for_linux/ Instructions to install it

[cctalk] Re: Dysan Alignment and Performance Testers

2024-10-03 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 3 Oct 2024 at 02:39, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > Some of the old-timers might remember a guy who was on this list a long > time ago, who claimed that the "copy-protectin defeating" program that he > used could copy ANYTHING, even alignment disks! > 'course, he was also the one who cla

[cctalk] A museum for the Brits and those who can reach it easily

2024-09-10 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
I had never heard of the Jim Austin Computer Collection before... https://www.computermuseum.org.uk/ « The Computer Sheds The Computer Sheds hold the Jim Austin Computer Collection, over 1500 computers and many thousands of other artifacts such as books, calculators, spares, test equipment a

[cctalk] Re: Microsoft & Apple

2024-09-09 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 4 Sept 2024 at 15:28, Murray McCullough via cctalk wrote: > > I had not realized it was 27 yrs. ago that Microsoft ‘gave’ Apple $150-$200 > million. It was done to keep Microsoft safe from regulators - for its > monopoly practices. No, it was not. This is an oft-repeated lie. It was an

[cctalk] Re: VT + Other Terminals - UK - Facebook

2024-09-01 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sun, 1 Sept 2024 at 13:13, Rob Jarratt wrote: > > Have to say I would like a 510 for completeness but can’t really house all of > these, so I can’t make an offer if they have to go as a single lot. Get them all, keep the 510, sell the others for a starting bid of £0.01 on eBay UK? That's wha

[cctalk] Re: VT + Other Terminals - UK - Facebook

2024-08-31 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On phone, so please excuse the mangled posting. << Thanks to the various people who have messaged me with various help which has enabled me to be a bit more specific on some of the details. Looks like I have... Vt420 Vt510 Data general 6501 Rack mount screen x2 Various keyboards that you can se

[cctalk] Re: MS-DOS

2024-08-03 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sat, 3 Aug 2024 at 15:17, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote: > > > > Mavericks, Yosemite, El Capitan, Sierra, High Sierra, Mojave, > > Catalina, Big Sur, Monterey, Ventura, Sonoma, Sequoia. > > > > Specifically, place names of California. Yes, that's what I remembered, but I wasn't sure. Never b

[cctalk] Re: MS-DOS

2024-08-02 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 2 Aug 2024 at 00:29, Royce Taft via cctalk wrote: > > Wasn’t Vista “Mojave”? No. That is Mac OS X 10.14. Apple used big cats for a decade or more: Cheetah, Puma, Jaguar, Tiger, Leopard, Snow Leopard, Lion, Mountain Lion. Then it ran out of cats. It switched to iconic places in North A

[cctalk] Re: MS-DOS

2024-08-02 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 at 21:32, Wayne S via cctalk wrote: > > Was 2000 called “Longhorn” internally? If so, the source code for it escaped > out onto the internet. You can still find it out there. No. The planned successor to "Whistler" (NT 5.1, sold as WinXP) was "Blackcomb", the planned NT 6.

[cctalk] Re: MS-DOS

2024-08-01 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 at 13:23, cz via cctalk wrote: > > Windows NT and 2000 did not have the "cut through" ability for apps to > talk to video without going through security proxies, thus games were > always terrible on them. > > Windows XP was the first OS (well aside from Windows 95/ME/whatever) >

[cctalk] Re: Macintosh Plus clone

2024-08-01 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 31 Jul 2024 at 13:11, Liam Proven wrote: > > So, yes, if replacing just the CPU is possible, replacing the rest of > the logic board as well is just an implementation issue. The entire case can just be 3D-printed: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5532530 https://hackaday.com/2024/07/3

[cctalk] Re: MS-DOS am I the only person who liked the win 3.1 UI?

2024-08-01 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 31 Jul 2024 at 15:33, CAREY SCHUG via cctalk wrote: > > Am i the ONLY person who preferred the win 3.1 user interface? Probably, > since I have never seen one like it on linux, and everybody else complains > about it. Pretty close. I customised it heavily with shortcuts for all my apps

[cctalk] Re: MS-DOS

2024-07-31 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 31 Jul 2024 at 06:14, Jim Brain via cctalk wrote: > > In the interest of facts, I don't think this is correct. > > Windows NT 3.1 utilized the Windows 3.1 UI look and feel > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_NT_3.1 > > Windows NT 3.5 continued the 3.1 look and feel. > > https://en.wi

[cctalk] Re: MS-DOS

2024-07-31 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 at 23:10, Ali via cctalk wrote: > > Unfortunately FreeDOS (as expected given the nature of the project) > progresses very slowly. Fair. There are quarterly updates but they keep very quiet about them. https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/tes

[cctalk] Re: Macintosh Plus clone

2024-07-31 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 at 17:28, The Doctor via cctalk wrote: > > But, can you integrate the Pico into the Mac Plus chassis and peripherals in > the same way? > Replica and cloned boards are probably going to be more important as time > goes by. It's a fair point. That would be a lot more work bu

[cctalk] Re: MS-DOS

2024-07-30 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 at 09:42, Dave Wade G4UGM via cctalk wrote: > Yes it started life as NT5 but at some point in got renamed to 2000 and DEC > Alpha support was dropped. I may have some NT5 Beta CDs in the loft. I think *all* the non-Intel versions were dropped, weren't they? There was an unre

[cctalk] Re: MS-DOS

2024-07-30 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 at 01:28, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > Gordon Letwin at Microsoft developed OS/2. But Microsoft sold it off to > IBM, and it became known as an IBM product. That is not quite how I remember it... > Microsoft used some key technology from it in developing WindowsNT. > With

[cctalk] Re: Macintosh Plus clone

2024-07-29 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sun, 28 Jul 2024 at 03:18, Murray McCullough via cctalk wrote: > > I came across this today: “Electronics engineer builds 1986 Macintosh Plus > clone”. Is there some reason one would want to do this? Not sure what the > point is but it proves it can be done! It can be done on a Raspberry Pi P

[cctalk] Re: Relay computers

2024-07-24 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On 24/07/2024 2:12 pm, Paul Koning wrote: The original is here:https://ir.cwi.nl/pub/13534 and that shows the citation you should use. Done. https://liam-on-linux.dreamwidth.org/91041.html Here's what I wrote: ARRA was the first ever Dutch computer. There's an account of its creation entit

[cctalk] Pick system in Manitoba looking for a new home

2024-07-24 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
Would anyone like to rescue a vintage Pick minicomputer in Manitoba, Canada? https://discuss.systems/@ahelwer/112836345012817998 « A wide ask here so please boost: my grandfather is trying to get rid of an old business computer, and I was wondering whether any vintage computer people might wan

[cctalk] Re: Relay computers

2024-07-24 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 23 Jul 2024 at 19:18, Gavin Scott via cctalk wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 7:11 AM Paul Koning via cctalk > wrote: > > It's interesting that the designers of ARRA spoke about what they did, and > > were quite honest about their mistakes. Quite refreshing. Unfortunately > > that n

[cctalk] Re: Neurodata Catwriter

2024-07-16 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On 15/07/2024 9:56 pm, Joshua Rice via cctalk wrote: https://imgur.com/a/GjiB44R For all of those not in the group, images above. BTW you missed the motherboard pic. -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.c

[cctalk] Re: Neurodata Catwriter

2024-07-16 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On 15/07/2024 8:52 pm, Peter Corlett via cctalk wrote: Unfortunately, that link is also a total blank because it's locked behind a private FaceBook group. Yes it is, and it's not my post, so I don't feel it's my right to grab the pix and upload them elsewhere. There's little info. It see

[cctalk] Neurodata Catwriter

2024-07-15 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
This seems to be a Belgian computer that draws a total blank on Google. https://www.facebook.com/groups/vintagecomputerclub/posts/8562290167137607/ Anyone ever heard of it? -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter

[cctalk] Re: what to do with our "treasures"

2024-07-01 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 27 Jun 2024 at 19:28, Mike Katz via cctalk wrote: > > Look in the for sale forums at vcfed.org. > > The Vintage Computer Federation. In my experience this is effectively US-only, or perhaps at best North America only. There is a lot more of the world than the USA+Canada and I've lived in

[cctalk] Re: Fwd: [GreenKeys] FW: [cca] Ed Sharpe, KF7RWW, SK

2024-06-22 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sat, 15 Jun 2024 at 21:01, Eric Moore via cctalk wrote: > > FYI, RIP Ed Oh no. Awful email style but an interesting chap. Ave, atque, vale. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/LinkedIn: lproven ~ Skype: l

[cctalk] Re: Experience using an Altair 8800 ("Personal computer" from 70s)

2024-06-12 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 6 Jun 2024 at 06:10, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote: > If you use > a computer that simultaneously is or can be used by other people via > multiple concurrent user sessions across whatever signal path, whatever the > setting, it is *not* "personal". I disagree. You are trying to make a

[cctalk] Re: Experience using an Altair 8800 ("Personal computer" from 70s)

2024-06-06 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 6 Jun 2024 at 05:10, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote: > If you ride a bus, where multiple random people get > on and off at various stops, it's not a "personal" conveyance. I refute your argument thus: If you buy a bus and start driving it yourself everywhere, for your own exclusive us

[cctalk] Re: Experience using an Altair 8800 ("Personal computer" from 70s)

2024-06-05 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 5 Jun 2024 at 13:30, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote: > that's an important distinction, affordability. You define personal > computers to contain microprocessors, which made them affordable. The > demand was always there, it's the point in the demand curve that allowed x% > of the populat

[cctalk] Re: Experience using an Altair 8800 ("Personal computer" from 70s)

2024-06-05 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sat, 1 Jun 2024 at 14:32, Joshua Rice via cctalk wrote: > That's a terrible analogy. The first cars were indeed ludicrously > expensive and owned almost exclusively by the wealthy and upper classes. > It took a good 20 years for the car to become affordable to the masses, > in the shape of the

[cctalk] Re: Pragmatically [was: Experience using an Altair 8800 ("Personal computer" from 70s)]

2024-06-03 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sat, 1 Jun 2024 at 21:11, Lawrence Wilkinson via cctalk wrote: > Yes, I can confirm that I am real. :-D And better still, extant. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/LinkedIn: lproven ~ Skype: liamproven

[cctalk] Re: Experience using an Altair 8800 ("Personal computer" from 70s)

2024-06-01 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
> With no expectation of changing the opinion of anyone who thinks they have > the definitive definition of ‘first’ or ‘personal’, I will just mention that: > > • the HP9830 (1972), > • Wang 2200 (1973), > • IBM 5100 (1975) > were all: > • single-user, > • d

[cctalk] Re: Experience using an Altair 8800 ("Personal computer" from 70s)

2024-06-01 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 31 May 2024 at 18:57, Harald Arnesen via cctalk wrote: > > Liam Proven via cctalk [31/05/2024 18.07]: > > > My first fiancée's dad had what he reckoned was the first mainframe in > > Norway. > > Was it this: > > <https://snl.no/NUSSE> - in Nor

[cctalk] Re: Pragmatically [was: Experience using an Altair 8800 ("Personal computer" from 70s)]

2024-06-01 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 28 May 2024 at 19:32, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: > There's a story about a guy in Australia that found an > abandoned IBM 360/30 in a storage/shipper's warehouse and > dragged it to a rented office space that had no elevator. He > carefully dismantled it, dragged the pieces up to at leas

[cctalk] Re: Experience using an Altair 8800 ("Personal computer" from 70s)

2024-05-31 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 28 May 2024 at 22:21, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > We can never agree on the definition. The blind men are fixxated on > individual features of the elephant. You have a point. You usually do, Fred. I am surprised one thing hasn't been mentioned yet. Any computer can be "personal" i

[cctalk] Re: Help request with fundraising campaign to save historic computers

2024-05-10 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sat, 4 May 2024 at 17:28, Gianluca Bonetti via cctalk wrote: > > I am helping Museo del Computer with this fundraising effort in order to > save a large number of machines with significant historic value, including > some Sperry Univac systems. I shared the links on Vintage Computer Club on Fa

[cctalk] Re: 5,34 Petaflop System Cheyenne

2024-05-03 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 3 May 2024 at 16:31, Gavin Scott via cctalk wrote: > It has 8,064 commodity CPUs, "E5-2697v4 (18-core, 2.3 GHz base > frequency, Turbo up to 3.6GHz, 145W TDP)" which may still sell new > (NOS?) for up to $2K each Bad news... https://www.ebay.com/itm/235507916254 $47.99 each. Plus ship

[cctalk] Re: BASIC

2024-05-03 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 3 May 2024 at 10:58, Gordon Henderson via cctalk wrote: > > The original Acorn Archimedes (First ARM CPU system) had an OS initially > called "Arthur" which was written in BBC Basic and assembler. It supported > a graphical user interface - later re-written in assembler and called > RISC-O

[cctalk] Re: APL (Was: BASIC

2024-05-03 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 2 May 2024 at 20:51, Lee Courtney wrote: > Too bad because the language itself lends itself to learning by anyone with > an understanding of high school algebra. You remind me -- and _not_ in a good way -- of the first day of my undergrad 1st year statistics course at university. I did

[cctalk] Re: APL (Was: BASIC

2024-05-02 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 2 May 2024 at 00:51, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > What would our world be like if the first home computers were to have had > APL, instead of BASIC? To be perfectly honest I think the home computer boom wouldn't have happened, and it would have crashed and burned in the 1970s, with th

[cctalk] Re: Double Density 3.5" Floppy Disks

2024-05-01 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 30 Apr 2024 at 18:08, Mike Katz via cctalk wrote: > > Does anybody have any extra 720K (double sided, double density) 3.5" > Floppy Disks that could use a good home? > > If so, please email me directly at bit...@12bitsbest.com. In what country? That massively impacts many people's willing

[cctalk] Re: Charles Stross, replay the bubble of 1995, alt history plus retrocomp

2024-04-27 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 26 Apr 2024 at 21:52, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote: > > Seems like a hormonal problem. No, there is a problem, but it's your knee-jerk reactions. Sorry, man, but it is. Charlie's bang on. Also, he's very British and very sarcastic, in that British way many Americans of my personal acq

[cctalk] Re: Charles Stross, replay the bubble of 1995, alt history plus retrocomp

2024-04-27 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 26 Apr 2024 at 03:25, Tomasz Rola via cctalk wrote: > > Well, if you are into this kind of stuff (I am)... Stross is an s-f > author, formerly a programmer (ages ago but I think it still shows - > perhaps he secretly writes his own tools in Perl) He wrote the Linux column in the UK versio

[cctalk] Re: IBM 360

2024-04-12 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 12 Apr 2024 at 13:31, Paul Koning wrote: > Yes. See also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_2321_Data_Cell . By the > standards of the time it was an unusually high capacity storage device, way > faster than a room full of tapes and much larger than the 2311 disk drive. Fascinating. T

[cctalk] Re: IBM 360

2024-04-12 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 11 Apr 2024 at 19:32, Van Snyder via cctalk wrote: > > An IBM salesman convinced them to try out a 360/30 with a Data Cell. No idea what a "data cell" is. I found this: https://www.pcmag.com/encyclopedia/term/data-cell At the Eastercon last week, I met a chap who learned to code on an

[cctalk] Re: Problem with Dell Vostro 1700

2024-04-08 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sun, 7 Apr 2024 at 20:43, Van Snyder via cctalk wrote: > I know the main focus of the list. No, you don't, because then you say: > The Vostro 1700 is almost old enough > to be a semi-antique. And it isn't. > I don't know another list where people might know > why the display flashes once

[cctalk] Re: Problem with Dell Vostro 1700

2024-04-07 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sat, 6 Apr 2024 at 00:47, Van Snyder via cctalk wrote: > > Both extremely helpful. Thanks. This is mainly a list for pre-PC era kit. Windows PCs and 64-bit x86 kit are offtopic here, and most members, I suspect, regard them as disposable office equipment with no more personality than a stapler

[cctalk] Re: How to shutdown RT11?

2024-03-27 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 at 22:46, Diane Bruce via cctalk wrote: > > sync;sync;sync > power off > > I remember it well. In my 1st journalist job, at PC Pro Magazine in 1995, I used that to turn off a review SPARC portable. My new boss was delighted and apparently, unbidden, I thereby proved my xNix c

[cctalk] Re: DEC Processor Books

2024-03-27 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 at 14:50, Alexander Schreiber via cctalk wrote: > > Reminds of something that happened at a previous job, where I was part > of the small Unix team. We had bought an expensive pile of HP-UX related > kit from HP and apparently also some HP consultant time for training > on said

[cctalk] Re: IBM PC-XT

2024-03-09 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sat, 9 Mar 2024 at 14:12, Murray McCullough via cctalk wrote: > > I look back fondly on the IBM PC-XT of 41 years ago. I think I briefly used one at university. I wrote about it recently. Its startling price put the Apple Lisa, launched the same year, into context: « The Lisa flopped partly

[cctalk] Re: VCF SoCal

2024-02-24 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 at 09:33, Stefan Skoglund wrote: > > Liam, TriPOS ? > > If i'm not wrong it was a OS developed in Cambridge (Cambridgeshire). > > Did someone port it to other arch than ARM ? I am mystified. This appeared in a thread about the VCF SoCal and apropos of nothing with no quote.

[cctalk] Re: VCF SoCal

2024-02-05 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 2 Feb 2024 at 21:01, Marvin Johnston via cctalk wrote: > > Note to those people too lazy to update their subject line... Oh come on, you can't say that and not quote properly. For just me, I intentionally don't do it. For better or worse, Gmail is the best webmail I know if, it does plai

[cctalk] Re: VCF SoCal

2024-02-01 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 31 Jan 2024 at 19:15, mark audacity romberg via cctalk wrote: > > BBC BASIC is the best BASIC there ever was, and I feel sad for those who have > never used it to see how powerful BASIC can be with proper structured > programming. It’s honestly like a different language. Strongly concur

[cctalk] Re: VCF SoCal

2024-02-01 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 31 Jan 2024 at 19:05, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote: > Probably because Americans in Futtbuck, Idaho never heard of any British > computers but Brits certainly knew about American computers, eh wot? Oh, yes, naturally! It is something of a national characteristic, though. I had someo

[cctalk] Re: VCF SoCal

2024-02-01 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 31 Jan 2024 at 18:35, Henry Bent via cctalk wrote: To answer a different part of the question that I missed first time around: > As an American it's true that the vast majority of my vintage computer > experience is completely americentric, but I'm aware that Acorn had a > significant pr

[cctalk] Re: VCF SoCal

2024-02-01 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 31 Jan 2024 at 18:52, Ali via cctalk wrote: > > That would be very interesting. I always thought Apricot made some beasts and > remeber the cover of Byte for the first 486 system being an Apricot VX. I > would love to see that machine in person. I put one of those in. First and only SC

[cctalk] Re: VCF SoCal

2024-02-01 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 31 Jan 2024 at 18:35, Henry Bent via cctalk wrote: > Surely by this definition UNIX would take the crown? The "core of the OS" > dates from 1969 and modern derivatives are everywhere. Good point, but the OS I was referring to is RISC OS, *the* original ARM OS and it has only ever run on

[cctalk] Re: VCF SoCal

2024-02-01 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 31 Jan 2024 at 19:40, Wouter de Waal via cctalk wrote: > Computers are much like motorcycles: many of the most interesting > ones were TERRIBLE! Oh, very good. I may quote that. :-D -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...

[cctalk] Re: VCF SoCal

2024-01-31 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 31 Jan 2024 at 14:23, Christopher Satterfield via cctalk wrote: > > I'm going to be presenting a (fine? idk) collection of British Computers. > Dragging along at least an Acorn RiscPC 700, a Castle Iyonix, Sinclair > Spectrum 48k and a Q68. Possibly static Apricot FP1/F1 if I can be bother

[cctalk] Re: VCF SoCal

2024-01-26 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 at 07:30, Andrew Diller via cctalk wrote: > > Hope this helps, I put it together to keep track of them all. I think you forgot something. There was no link or anything there, and the list doesn't allow attachments. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email

[cctalk] Re: The Mac at 40

2024-01-26 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 at 03:56, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > Besides, most of us had solidified our wrong perspectives and incorrect > beliefs and assumptiond long before Wikipedia came along. Ha! Excellent. Well said. As it happens I'm trying to do a quick retrospective for El Reg right now,

[cctalk] The Sinclair QL's legacy at 40

2024-01-16 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
My 1st contribution to the Register's "retro tech week" may amuse... https://www.theregister.com/2024/01/16/ql_legacy_at_40/ -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/LinkedIn: lproven ~ Skype: liamproven IoM: (+44)

[cctalk] RIP: Software design pioneer and Pascal creator Niklaus Wirth

2024-01-04 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
Evangelist of lean software and devisor of 9 programming languages and an OS was 89 https://www.theregister.com/2024/01/04/niklaus_wirth_obituary/ The great man has left us. I wrote an obituary. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpr

[cctalk] Re: (no subject)

2023-12-14 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 13 Dec 2023 at 21:18, brian--- via cctalk wrote: > > > > > The one I haven't found yet is: > > f29bdg00.boo > > > The Google suggests: > http://www.edm2.com/index.php/Common_User_Access > which has working links to f29al000.boo and f29bdg00.boo on IBM servers Well spotted. If I was uncle

[cctalk] Re: IBM .BOO format

2023-12-13 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 12 Dec 2023 at 22:06, David Schmidt via cctalk wrote: > > I ran the Windows reader over the f29al000.boo file, and the results weren't > as good as the ones that IBM printed out in 1992 as available on the Internet > Archive; the main problems I can see is the lack of font support (ever

[cctalk] Re: IBM .BOO format

2023-12-12 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 11 Dec 2023 at 18:48, David Schmidt via cctalk wrote: > > I have it running in a Windows NT VM, and it prints to PDF using BullZip > just fine. Do you want to point to the library you want to convert, and > I can run this over them? Thank you! I found one on the Internet Archive already

[cctalk] IBM .BOO format

2023-12-10 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
Does anyone have any experience with the IBM BookManager format and the tools to read it? I've not found any way to open them on a Mac. No joy on Linux yet either; there's an old unmaintained tool that uses a 32-bit Java app. I found 2 Windows tools. One, IBM Library Reader, won't install on

[cctalk] Re: Looking for NORTRONICS Read/Write head for IBM 5100/5110/5106 tape unit

2023-10-24 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 24 Oct 2023 at 06:27, Mark Perullo via cctalk wrote: > > Hey Steve You're not talking to Steve, but a whole mailing list of hundreds of people. The rest of us don't know which Steve you mean. > I know this is a year later but I have the Nortronic Read Write heads you > were looking for.

[cctalk] Re: WTD: transputer multi-cpu isa card

2023-09-18 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sat, 16 Sept 2023 at 01:45, Tony Jones via cctalk wrote: > > Suggestions on what to look for welcomed. Just FWIW there is now a bare-metal Transputer emulator for the Raspberry Pi Pico which is accurate enough that you can interconnect several Pi Picos *using the original INMOS silicon* for th

[cctalk] Re: For Fred, especially: "Everything I know about floppy disks"

2023-09-11 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sun, 10 Sept 2023 at 18:49, Peter Corlett via cctalk wrote: > One unusual and interesting thing about the Amstrad PCW is how it uses a > display list system, unlike basically any other home computer of the era > apart from the Atari 8-bits and the Amiga. Fascinating... thanks for that. -- L

[cctalk] Re: For Fred, especially: "Everything I know about floppy disks"

2023-09-11 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sun, 10 Sept 2023 at 23:12, Will Cooke via cctalk wrote: > I make an official motion that Fred write his own "Everything I Know About > Floppy Disks" page / book /encyclopedia. > > I suspect that what is inside his head is the greatest collection of > knowledge about floppies on the planet.

[cctalk] Re: For Fred, especially: "Everything I know about floppy disks"

2023-09-10 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sun, 10 Sept 2023 at 16:09, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > > UK readers are certainly > familiar with 3.0 inch CF drives used on Amstrads. Oh yes indeed. I think I have, in my basement in Prague, two Amstrad PCW 9512 machines, an original 9512 (1987, one 3" drive) and a 9512+ (1991, one 3.5"

[cctalk] Re: For Fred, especially: "Everything I know about floppy disks"

2023-09-10 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sun, 10 Sept 2023 at 15:16, Jay Logue via cctalk wrote: > > Has anyone reached out with corrections? Yes, me. I pointed him at Fred's response, he was very pleased, and he's updated it. (I can't see much difference but I am not so expert as Mr Cisin at this stuff. There's a revision history o

[cctalk] Re: For Fred, especially: "Everything I know about floppy disks"

2023-09-08 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 8 Sept 2023 at 22:53, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > When Ronald Reagan got into politics, I wrote him a postcard pleading him > NOT TO. I said, "Hollywood needs you." It's a real shame that didn't work. AIUI the repeal of Glass-Steagal caused a lot of the problems we're in today, and

[cctalk] Re: For Fred, especially: "Everything I know about floppy disks"

2023-09-08 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 8 Sept 2023 at 22:41, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > He has an "About Me" page,and even his CV, but goes to some effort to > avoid stating his NAME! (Jonathan Pallant) I noticed that, too. I think it's [a] the modern internet way, and [2] may be connected with his efforts to get into p

[cctalk] Re: For Fred, especially: "Everything I know about floppy disks"

2023-09-08 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 8 Sept 2023 at 22:24, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > It's got some really good stuff, but some things that are awkward, > although few totally WRONG. [...] > Overall, a good start, for MOST aspects. That is high praise indeed, I think! :-) -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/li

[cctalk] For Fred, especially: "Everything I know about floppy disks"

2023-09-08 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
« Everything I know about floppy disks 2023-08-28 Floppy disk drives are curious things. We know them as the slots that ingest those small almost-square plastic "floppy disks" and we only really see them now in Computer Museums. But there's a lot going on in that humble square of plastic and

[cctalk] Re: NewtonOS

2023-09-08 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 8 Sept 2023 at 19:23, Wayne S wrote: > > I have an ipad 3 and it was absolutely great. Everything worked well on it > until apple 🍎 made IOS 10 which doesn’t run on it. Then, gradually, some > apps, like Amazon Prime TV, were upgraded to use 10 and above and simply > stopped working. I

[cctalk] Re: VCFMW vendor tables

2023-09-08 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 30 Aug 2023 at 17:25, Seth Morabito via cctalk wrote: > > I swear to God, Discord will be the end of the open Internet, it's where > information goes to die. I hate it with every fiber of my being. And yes, I > use it, I'm on many servers. I'm still allowed to detest it. 100% agreement

[cctalk] Re: NewtonOS

2023-09-08 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 30 Aug 2023 at 02:59, Wayne S via cctalk wrote: > > I used a newton and still have it a box. I have 2 of them myself. > It was heavy and very slow. Graffiti didn’t work very well either. The OMP was. I later bought a Newton 2100 and it's a very different beast. It's quite usable by com

[cctalk] Re: OT: Moon (Was: PDP-8/L $15,000

2023-09-08 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 30 Aug 2023 at 01:29, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > Then, one of the Sci-Fi magazines [...] in which the capsule settled down > onto the moon, and > immediately sank irrevocably below kilometer thick layer of dust. I am strongly reminded of _A Fall of Moondust_ by Arthur C. Clarke.

[cctalk] Re: SCO on Virtualbox

2023-09-08 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 25 Aug 2023 at 01:05, KenUnix via cctalk wrote: > > I have been experimenting with GhostBSD 64bit. It runs quite well under > Virtualbox Sorry for the very slow reply... Work is burying me, and I am somewhat crippled due to a pulverised right forearm. I am glad you've found something you

[cctalk] Re: SCO on Virtualbox

2023-08-24 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 3 Aug 2023 at 19:21, KenUnix via cctalk wrote: > > Has anyone got SCO Unix to successfully install and run on Virtualbox? > > My efforts have failed. My host is Ubuntu 22.04 with Virtualbox 7.0.10. No, but I have read that it is doable, with a very constrained VM. Some more info: https:

[cctalk] Re: Can't access

2023-07-21 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 21 Jul 2023 at 01:10, Murray McCullough via cctalk wrote: > > Dear sir; > > I can't access your site. Not sure why! It mat be due to the email > address I employ. Wrong email address, Murray? I am sure none of us have any idea what you're talking about... -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: ht

[cctalk] Re: WTB XVR-4000

2023-07-14 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 14 Jul 2023 at 10:03, silcreval via cctalk wrote: > > I recently dug out my V880 and all seems to be working brilliantly. I've > always liked these machines and it would be nice to upgrade this to the V880z > spec, ie by adding the mighty > XVR-4000 graphics module. I had no idea what a

[cctalk] Re: Is the list broken again?

2023-07-06 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 6 Jul 2023 at 15:42, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > > I doubt this will go thru either but other attempts to send to the list are > now getting rejected as SPAM. Doesn't the list check addresses to see if > the poster is a member? I am hearing you loud and clear. -- Liam Proven ~

[cctalk] Re: Getting floppy images to/from real floppy disks.

2023-05-30 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 30 May 2023 at 19:56, Jeff Woolsey via cctalk wrote: > > I'm also amazed that I can put together a still reasonably impressive > 14-year-old MacBook Pro for < $100. That's $40 for the empty laptop > as-is at a flea market, ~$15 for 8GB RAM, ~$45 for 960GB SSD. I lucked > out in that ther

[cctalk] Re: Getting floppy images to/from real floppy disks.

2023-05-22 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 22 May 2023 at 10:40, Tony Duell wrote: > > I am sorry, but I think this is a stupid suggestion for many reasons. I forgot whom I was dealing with. > > I am not sure I > would want to trust something from an unknown seller on the web. That is unreasonable, IMHO, but it is on-brand. > An

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