[ccp4bb] In CCP4, How to perform anneal?

2007-02-19 Thread Jiamu Du
Dear All: Only by using CCP4, how to perform anneal refinement ? Thanks -- Jiamu Du Key Laboratory of Proteomics Institute of Biochemistry and Cell Biology Shanghai Institutes for Biological Sciences Chinese Academy of Sciences (CAS)

Re: [ccp4bb] axis of unit cell change

2007-02-19 Thread weikai
Hi Sam: You need to index in P222 and find out the axis that does not have systematic absence (not screwed) in P21212, then rationalize yourself how to switch this axis to c while keeping the same handness. But since you already know the correct index a = 96.54 b = 121.95 c = 75.33 and yours a'

Re: [ccp4bb] human cDNA clones?

2007-02-19 Thread Flip Hoedemaeker
I usually buy my IMAGE clones from Geneservice in the UK (http://www.geneservice.co.uk/products/image/index.jsp), if you buy more than 75 clones the price per is GBP 33.75 which is CAD76.62 according to the google exchange rate... Flip -Original Message- From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto

Re: [ccp4bb] human cDNA clones?

2007-02-19 Thread artem
It depends on scale. With some synthetic DNA companies if you order many at once, you can get a huge discout, down to maybe 35-45 cents per base. Alternatively, if you have free labor (students) then you can multiparallel your PCR, but $100 per clone is going to be hard to beat given the fact that

[ccp4bb] human cDNA clones?

2007-02-19 Thread Andrew Wong
Sorry a little offtopic... We'r trying to clones a number of putative human proteins for crystallization. Besides IMAGE clones from OpenBiosystem, is there any the cheaper way of obtaining human cDNA clones? OpenBiosystem is okish, ~$100Cdn for each clone, but does get abit expensive when you

Re: [ccp4bb] FW: scaling question

2007-02-19 Thread Dominika Borek
I am writing on behalf Zbyszek Otwinowski. This problem was supposedly corrected in later versions of the program but in any case is benign unless number of such lines is very large (thousands). You can simply ignore it. Dominika Nalam, Madhavi wrote: Hello: I am posting this question on beh

Re: [ccp4bb] crytstallographic software

2007-02-19 Thread Jon Wright
Do you have any data to support the implication that Acta F will have a lower citation factor than Acta D? Checked a web of sciences "Citation report" for a search with the year 2005 and "source titles": ACTA CRYSTALLOGRAPHICA SECTION F STRUCTURAL BIOLOGY "AND" CRYSTALLIZATION COMMUNICATI

Re: [ccp4bb] crytstallographic software

2007-02-19 Thread Ethan Merritt
On Monday 19 February 2007 11:39, Jon Wright wrote: > Acta D is likely to improve again following the creation of Acta F in 2005. Do you have any data to support the implication that Acta F will have a lower citation factor than Acta D? FWIW, the impact factor of Acta D was down in 2005 relative

Re: [ccp4bb] axis of unit cell change

2007-02-19 Thread claudine mayer
Hi, The point is to check where you have the non helicoidal 2fold axis (no extinction). I guess, it will be the 2-fold axis along your a parameter. Then, you have to reindex, because the convention is to choose the 2 fold axis along c. Goood luck, Claudine U Sam wrote: Hi I crystallized a

Re: [ccp4bb] crytstallographic software

2007-02-19 Thread Jon Wright
Kevin Cowtan wrote: Acta D has for some reason a rather poor impact rating, and J. Appl. Cryst. a rather better one. There is no outlier rejection in the calculations for journal citation reports (eg: impact factors). Congratulations to: Spek AL, "Single-crystal structure validation with t

Re: [ccp4bb] axis of unit cell change

2007-02-19 Thread HKim
Hi, Sam, I think you have the same crystal form as that which was reported. The screw axes are not assigned when you index and integrate your data. HKL2000 will assign the unit cell edges from shortest to longest for a, b, and c. You'll assign the screw axes when you scale the data. It looks

[ccp4bb] axis of unit cell change

2007-02-19 Thread U Sam
Hi I crystallized a protein in different condition than reported before and structure had been already reported by other group. In both cases space group is P21 21 2 Right now I am not interested in solving the structure, but to look for some other properties. I see a difference in cell dimens

Re: [ccp4bb] Rfactor does not drop

2007-02-19 Thread Pavel Afonine
Hi Emmanuel, try MZ protocol (MZ = multi-zone) in phenix.refine. It does the smart rigid body refinement starting from a few low resolution reflections and ending up with using all data. In-between it does the maximum-likelihood bulk-solvent modeling and scaling. All together it results in a V

Re: [ccp4bb] crytstallographic software

2007-02-19 Thread Kantardjieff, Katherine
As co-editor of J Appl Cryst, handling teaching/education and computer software mainly, J Appl Cryst is the appropriate journal in the IUCr series for publishing new software, improved software, tutorials, etc. We would strongly encourage you to submit such manuscripts to J Appl Cryst, both 'biolog

[ccp4bb] Advice on img proc software

2007-02-19 Thread Bryan Lepore
On Mon, 19 Feb 2007, Patrick Loll wrote: Matlab octave is the free software answer to Matlab: www.octave.org i heard it can take matlab scripts. -bryan

Re: [ccp4bb] Advice on img proc software

2007-02-19 Thread Jon Wright
> The mathcad image processing module is too expensive for my taste. My university has a campus- wide license for Matlab, so it's *free* for me... I have no idea of what it would cost to purchase. [reminder: never compare "educational licensing" with giving drugs to schoolchildren.] For so

[ccp4bb] DTT in crystallization conditions

2007-02-19 Thread Kristof Van Hecke
Dear all, I apologize for the non-ccp4 related question. However, I am trying to crystallize a (very pure) protein, but according to the mass-spectrometry data, it's able to form dimers and even trimers.. I was told that adding DTT (dithiothreitol) to the crystallization conditions could p

Re: [ccp4bb] Rfactor does not drop

2007-02-19 Thread price
I would take a well-ordered helix out of your allegedly-correctly-placed model (BEFORE doing any refinement other than rigid body), phase a 2Fo-Fc and an Fo-Fc map with it, and see if the helix shows up. If it does, there is some reality in your solution. If it doesn't, start over from scratc

[ccp4bb] ATP binding

2007-02-19 Thread Menachem Shoham
Hello, This is another off-topic question. We are trying to purify a putative ATP-binding protein. What kind of beads or column would work best in this situation? Jena Biosciences sells a kit of four different ATP-Sepharose beads with different attachment points of the ATP to the solid matrix.

Re: [ccp4bb] Advice on img proc software

2007-02-19 Thread Patrick Loll
Bernhard, I've used Matlab to calculate 2D FTs (eg, a Cowtan-esque FT of a cat). I'm sure you could come up with a way to do the phase coloring without too much sweat--the degree of flexibility available to you in this program is quite large. My university has a campus- wide license for

[ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] pseudotranslation and dyads in NCS

2007-02-19 Thread Daniel Adams
-- Forwarded message -- From: Daniel Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Feb 16, 2007 12:29 PM Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] pseudotranslation and dyads in NCS To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] My apology for not mentioning unit cell, The P1 unit cell is 74 91 116 109 105 90 Any suggestions or comments

Re: [ccp4bb] Advice on img proc software

2007-02-19 Thread Marc SCHILTZ
Dear Bernhard, Have a look at the Java applet "Diffraction and Fourier Transform" located here: http://lcr.epfl.ch/page37304.html You can draw an image, periodic or not periodic, the application will compute the FFT. You can then select either phases or magnitudes or Re/Im components and com

Re: [ccp4bb] Advice on img proc software

2007-02-19 Thread Martin Hallberg
Hi, You may want to have a look at ShaFFT: http://www.ibg.uu.se/static/exjobb/00/5.pdf (the undergraduate project write-up) You can download the program from ftp://xray.bmc.uu.se/pub/alwyn (file is shafft_export.tar) Cheers, Martin On Feb 19, 2007, at 4:35 AM, Bernhard Rupp wrote:

[ccp4bb] postdoctoral position available

2007-02-19 Thread Martyn Winn
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Re: [ccp4bb] crytstallographic software

2007-02-19 Thread Charles Ballard
Interestingly enough (or not as the case maybe), the CCP4 study weekend now goes out as the January issue of Acta D in order to try and raise the impact rating. Something to do with the scoring working on a calendar year. Charles On 19 Feb 2007, at 10:50, Kevin Cowtan wrote: J. Appl. Cr

Re: [ccp4bb] crytstallographic software

2007-02-19 Thread Kevin Cowtan
J. Appl. Cryst. I have used it for things which I think need publishing, but are of more abstract subjects and less direct interest to the biological crystallography. However, politics and finances may dictate otherwise. Acta D has for some reason a rather poor impact rating, and J. Appl. Cr

Re: [ccp4bb] Rfactor does not drop

2007-02-19 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Just an aside to this - I have had R factors > 55% which then refine.. It is when they dont refine you are in trouble .. Eleanor Jiamu Du wrote: *Dear Prata:* First, I think you'd better check your subgroups. Maybe you got opposite hand of the data. Or change a model. When the Rfactor is ab

[ccp4bb] Advice on img proc software

2007-02-19 Thread Bernhard Rupp
Dear All: I am trying to make FFTs of images of assemblies of spheres and other shapes to explain diffraction, the usual thing. So far I do this through cumbersome cludges, and I bet there are better ways, and I am looking for free or cheap software to do this. I load the image into basic math

Re: [ccp4bb] Rfactor does not drop

2007-02-19 Thread Tim Gruene
Hi, I dare say with an R-factor of 0.64, your MR solution is simply wrong. Just into the blue, you could 1) try various MR-programs (phaser, molrep, amore...) 2) try a different search model 3) try your best model but start with subdomains or chop off possibly flexible parts 4) have a look at

Re: [ccp4bb] Anisotropic Refinement Question

2007-02-19 Thread Carlos Huerta
Dear All, I appreciate the feed back from my question. I refined anisotropically without hydrogens and when I was satisfied with the model I added hydrogens with zero refinement cycles in REFMAC5. This worked equally well as adding hydrogens earlier in the refinement stage and keeping them pr

Re: [ccp4bb] Rfactor does not drop

2007-02-19 Thread Jiamu Du
*Dear Prata:* First, I think you'd better check your subgroups. Maybe you got opposite hand of the data. Or change a model. When the Rfactor is above 0.55 after MR, I think it means nothing. On 2/16/07, Emmanuel Prata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dear all, I have a data set of a protein soake

[ccp4bb] crytstallographic software

2007-02-19 Thread Marius Schmidt
Dear colleagues, I was wondering whether someone of you has reported/published new or improved crystallographic software somewhere else than Acta Cryst. It would be nice if you could share your experience with me. Topics might be: - quality of the journal - rapid publication - literate peers - ...

Re: [ccp4bb] Good NMR Board

2007-02-19 Thread Andrew Perry
On 2/8/07, Justin Schmitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Morning every body! Does anybody know a board for NMR releated questions which has a quality like this? Both the NMRPipe and ARIA lists have some decent general NMR discussion in the style of CCP4BB, in addition to the discussion related

Re: [ccp4bb] journals with on-hold policy

2007-02-19 Thread Olve Peersen
However, be warned that your structure needs to be very sexy to get into Cosmo, and then there might be better choices. If it is not, but has a few stacked beta sheets, you may be able to color the figures in plaid designs and get into American Rifleman (I assume there is no European Rifl

Re: [ccp4bb] Rfactor does not drop

2007-02-19 Thread venkataraman kabaleeswaran
Hey Emmanuel Typical R-factor for random structure will be above 57% and for initial MR model it will be somewhere between 40-50%. In your case, High R-factor might be due to many reasons. So check the data for any twining and also again check the Space group. Because sometime you will end up

[ccp4bb] on-hold policy - reasons why

2007-02-19 Thread artem
Cheers, Many thanks to all of you who sent in the (mostly positive) helpful replies. A lot of folks asked why do we have to place the structure on hold - since this is a pretty typical example of how industrial crystallographers have to operate sometimes, I will attempt to explain. We have a choi

Re: [ccp4bb] pseudotranslation and dyads in NCS

2007-02-19 Thread Eleanor Dodson
To understand this one at least needs the P1 unit cell.. Operators 3 4 and 5 are almost the same rotation.. It is unlikely that they are all 2 folds? Eleanor Daniel Adams wrote: Hi bb, I am working on P1 dataset, SAD phasing resolution is 3.5 and trying to build model. However I am facing d

Re: [ccp4bb] journals with on-hold policy

2007-02-19 Thread Eric Toth
I think Martha Stewart's magazine has fairly liberal data deposition policies as well. _ Eric A. Toth, Ph.D. Assistant Professor Department of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology Marlene and Stewart Greenebaum Cancer Center University of Maryland

[ccp4bb] FW: scaling question

2007-02-19 Thread Nalam, Madhavi
Hello: I am posting this question on behalf of my colleague. Thanks, Madhavi -Original Message- From: Romano, Keith Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 10:43 AM To: Nalam, Madhavi Subject: FW: scaling question I am in the process of scaling synchrotron data with scalepack, and I am havi

Re: [ccp4bb] journals with on-hold policy

2007-02-19 Thread Dunten, Pete W.
If you publish the paper a year from now, with no hold, will everyone be happy? -Original Message- From: CCP4 bulletin board on behalf of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri 2/16/2007 6:54 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: [ccp4bb] journals with on-hold policy Dear CCP4ers, This is a new qu

[ccp4bb] EMBO Workshop on THE CHEMISTRY AND BIOCHEMISTRY OF CATALYSIS BY BIOLOGICAL SYSTEMS - 20 - 22 June 2007, EMBL Hamburg

2007-02-19 Thread Andrea Schmidt
Registration is now open for the EMBO Workshop on THE CHEMISTRY AND BIOCHEMISTRY OF CATALYSIS BY BIOLOGICAL SYSTEMS 20 - 22 June 2007, EMBL Hamburg http://www.embl-hamburg.de/workshops/2007/catalysis/ Registration deadline: 31st March 2007 Workshop aims: With the continuously emerging ne

Re: [ccp4bb] journals with on-hold policy

2007-02-19 Thread Becker, Joseph W
If the work is funded by the NIH, you must deposit and release coordinates upon publication regardless of the journal's policy. http://grants.nih.gov/grants/guide/notice-files/not99-010.html Joe Becker Merck Research Labs -Original Message- From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:[EMAIL PROTEC