Re: [Bacula-users] Virtual Backups and Tape Storage Woes

2012-05-10 Thread Jan Behrend
On 05/10/2012 09:46 AM, Radosław Korzeniewski wrote: > Media Type attribute indicates Bacula that it can use any "Media Type" > volume on any "Media Type" storage device. > If both physical tape libraries has the same "Media Type" set to LTO5 > then both libraries has to be able to mount _any_ LTO5

Re: [Bacula-users] Virtual Backups and Tape Storage Woes

2012-05-10 Thread Radosław Korzeniewski
Helo, 2012/5/9 Jan Behrend > > (...) > requests manual mounting of the volume > with the differential from the primary library on a drive in the > secondary which of course is not possible. Both libraries have the same > media type "LTO5" configured, whcih is actually true. I hope this is not > t

Re: [Bacula-users] Virtual Backups and Tape Storage Woes

2012-05-09 Thread Jan Behrend
On 05/07/2012 10:12 PM, Jan Behrend wrote: Hello list, I have two tape libraries and I am doing full and differential backups on the "primary" one of them. Incrementals go to a disk storage. Every night when all backups are done I am copying all "not copied volumes" from the primary tape library

Re: [Bacula-users] virtual backups with encrypted data

2011-12-12 Thread Guy
Yes files are encrypted separately... and yes it just copies the file from SD to the new pool... it does nothing with the file/data just copies it. --Guy On 12 Dec 2011, at 10:07, Silver Salonen wrote: > OK, but how can SD merge data from encrypted volumes? > > I'd guess it goes smth like th

Re: [Bacula-users] virtual backups with encrypted data

2011-12-12 Thread Silver Salonen
OK, but how can SD merge data from encrypted volumes? I'd guess it goes smth like this for every file (all files are encrypted separately)? 1. SD finds out (queries DIR) on which volume is the latest version of the file 2. SD reads the encrypted file and just re-writes it onto the new volume D

Re: [Bacula-users] virtual backups with encrypted data

2011-12-12 Thread Guy
yes that works.. I've done it... The system doesn't need to decrypt the data... it just needs to know which version is the latest and it can do that from the catalog. --Guy On 12 Dec 2011, at 09:55, Silver Salonen wrote: > Hello. > > Is running VirtualFull possible with encrypted backups? >

Re: [Bacula-users] Virtual Backups

2011-01-08 Thread Gandalf Corvotempesta
-Messaggio originale- Da: penne...@sapo.pt Inviata: Sab, 08 Gennaio 2011 01:22:46 > i have the same problem and i could not find a satisfactory solution. > > so i tried to use a virtual autocharger but bacula support is buggy: > > see the thread "virtualfull using tapes" or my previous po

Re: [Bacula-users] Virtual Backups

2011-01-07 Thread penne296
so on.) > > -Messaggio originale- > Da: Graham Keeling > Inviata: Ven, 07 Gennaio 2011 17:05:06 > A: bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Oggetto: Re: [Bacula-users] Virtual Backups > > Hello, > In my configuration, I have (paraphrasing it for s

Re: [Bacula-users] Virtual Backups - Do we actually need full backups anymore?

2011-01-07 Thread Blake Dunlap
On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 13:15, Phil Stracchino wrote: > Blake, > By all means post it, and you might want to consider submitting it as a > contributed support script. > Script to automatically start VirtualFulls based on Full Backup Age attached, currently set up to have some hardcoding in the s

Re: [Bacula-users] Virtual Backups - Do we actually need full backups anymore?

2011-01-07 Thread Blake Dunlap
On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 16:20, Blake Dunlap wrote: > On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 13:15, Phil Stracchino wrote: > >> Blake, >> By all means post it, and you might want to consider submitting it as a >> contributed support script. >> > > Script to automatically start VirtualFulls based on Full Backup Ag

Re: [Bacula-users] Virtual Backups - Do we actually need full backups anymore?

2011-01-07 Thread Phil Stracchino
On 01/07/11 12:00, Blake Dunlap wrote: > I have a specific perl script that runs, and fires off the top x (in our > case 3) vfulls each morning queued to run, based on what incrementals > are seen running successfully the night before, and has had no fulls > within x (in my case 90) days. > > We d

Re: [Bacula-users] Virtual Backups - Do we actually need full backups anymore?

2011-01-07 Thread Mister IT Guru
On 07/01/2011 17:00, Blake Dunlap wrote: On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 06:30, Mister IT Guru > wrote: On 07/01/2011 12:23, James Harper wrote: >>> Suggestion: >>> >>> Schedule the day's Incremental, then schedule the VirtualFull, say, > 30 >>> mi

Re: [Bacula-users] Virtual Backups - Do we actually need full backups anymore?

2011-01-07 Thread Blake Dunlap
On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 06:30, Mister IT Guru wrote: > On 07/01/2011 12:23, James Harper wrote: > >>> Suggestion: > >>> > >>> Schedule the day's Incremental, then schedule the VirtualFull, say, > > 30 > >>> minutes later. > >>> > >>> Put a RunBeforeJob script on the incremental that creates a lock

Re: [Bacula-users] Virtual Backups

2011-01-07 Thread newsletter-ale
source. I'm unable to not use a dedicated storage resource, due to deadlock. (storage is busy reading... and so on.) -Messaggio originale- Da: Graham Keeling Inviata: Ven, 07 Gennaio 2011 17:05:06 A: bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net Oggetto: Re: [Bacula-users] Virtual Backups

Re: [Bacula-users] Virtual Backups

2011-01-07 Thread Graham Keeling
On Fri, Jan 07, 2011 at 04:05:06PM +, Graham Keeling wrote: > On Fri, Jan 07, 2011 at 04:21:57PM +0100, Gandalf Corvotempesta wrote: > > Hi all, > > i'm trying to configure a bacula 5.0.2 to do virtual backups. > > I'm able to do the first virtual backup with success, but after > > that, i'm un

Re: [Bacula-users] Virtual Backups

2011-01-07 Thread Graham Keeling
On Fri, Jan 07, 2011 at 04:21:57PM +0100, Gandalf Corvotempesta wrote: > Hi all, > i'm trying to configure a bacula 5.0.2 to do virtual backups. > I'm able to do the first virtual backup with success, but after > that, i'm unable to do a new one. > > This is the error message that i'm receiving in

Re: [Bacula-users] Virtual Backups - Do we actually need full backups anymore?

2011-01-07 Thread Mister IT Guru
On 07/01/2011 12:23, James Harper wrote: >>> Suggestion: >>> >>> Schedule the day's Incremental, then schedule the VirtualFull, say, > 30 >>> minutes later. >>> >>> Put a RunBeforeJob script on the incremental that creates a lockfile > (in >>> a properly race-safe manner, of course) for the client.

Re: [Bacula-users] Virtual Backups - Do we actually need full backups anymore?

2011-01-07 Thread James Harper
> > Suggestion: > > > > Schedule the day's Incremental, then schedule the VirtualFull, say, 30 > > minutes later. > > > > Put a RunBeforeJob script on the incremental that creates a lockfile (in > > a properly race-safe manner, of course) for the client. > > > > Put a RunAfterJob script on the incr

Re: [Bacula-users] Virtual Backups - Do we actually need full backups anymore?

2011-01-07 Thread Mister IT Guru
On 07/01/2011 11:19, Gavin McCullagh wrote: > On Fri, 07 Jan 2011, Graham Keeling wrote: > >>> Thank you for the clarification! That's what I thought before hand. >>> *phew* otherwise my backup plans would be fubard! Why do you say, "may >>> involve" creating a new volume? >> Because, depending on

Re: [Bacula-users] Virtual Backups - Do we actually need full backups anymore?

2011-01-07 Thread Gavin McCullagh
On Fri, 07 Jan 2011, Graham Keeling wrote: > > Thank you for the clarification! That's what I thought before hand. > > *phew* otherwise my backup plans would be fubard! Why do you say, "may > > involve" creating a new volume? > > Because, depending on what bacula feels like doing, it may append

Re: [Bacula-users] Virtual Backups - Do we actually need full backups anymore?

2011-01-07 Thread Mister IT Guru
On 07/01/2011 10:41, Graham Keeling wrote: > On Fri, Jan 07, 2011 at 10:25:05AM +, Mister IT Guru wrote: >> On 07/01/2011 09:59, Graham Keeling wrote: >>> On Fri, Jan 07, 2011 at 09:53:27AM +, Mister IT Guru wrote: On 06/01/2011 18:47, Phil Stracchino wrote: > On 01/06/11 12:54, Mi

Re: [Bacula-users] Virtual Backups - Do we actually need full backups anymore?

2011-01-07 Thread Graham Keeling
On Fri, Jan 07, 2011 at 10:25:05AM +, Mister IT Guru wrote: > On 07/01/2011 09:59, Graham Keeling wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 07, 2011 at 09:53:27AM +, Mister IT Guru wrote: > >> On 06/01/2011 18:47, Phil Stracchino wrote: > >>> On 01/06/11 12:54, Mister IT Guru wrote: > Okay, I see the poi

Re: [Bacula-users] Virtual Backups - Do we actually need full backups anymore?

2011-01-07 Thread Mister IT Guru
On 07/01/2011 09:59, Graham Keeling wrote: > On Fri, Jan 07, 2011 at 09:53:27AM +, Mister IT Guru wrote: >> On 06/01/2011 18:47, Phil Stracchino wrote: >>> On 01/06/11 12:54, Mister IT Guru wrote: Okay, I see the point of Virtual Full Backup - this is to be done without talking to the

Re: [Bacula-users] Virtual Backups - Do we actually need full backups anymore?

2011-01-07 Thread Graham Keeling
On Fri, Jan 07, 2011 at 09:53:27AM +, Mister IT Guru wrote: > On 06/01/2011 18:47, Phil Stracchino wrote: > > On 01/06/11 12:54, Mister IT Guru wrote: > >> Okay, I see the point of Virtual Full Backup - this is to be done > >> without talking to the client at call, (i did know that! I've been d

Re: [Bacula-users] Virtual Backups - Do we actually need full backups anymore?

2011-01-07 Thread Mister IT Guru
On 06/01/2011 18:47, Phil Stracchino wrote: > On 01/06/11 12:54, Mister IT Guru wrote: >> Okay, I see the point of Virtual Full Backup - this is to be done >> without talking to the client at call, (i did know that! I've been doing >> my homework!) Well, now that I'm looking at the virtual backup i

Re: [Bacula-users] Virtual Backups - Do we actually need full backups anymore?

2011-01-07 Thread Mister IT Guru
On 06/01/2011 17:48, Phil Stracchino wrote: > On 01/06/11 12:16, Graham Keeling wrote: >> With my configuration, a VirtualFull sometimes prevents an Incremental from >> running, because the VirtualFull took too long (or vice versa). I have not >> been >> able to solve this, because every idea that

Re: [Bacula-users] Virtual Backups - Do we actually need full backups anymore?

2011-01-07 Thread Graham Keeling
On Fri, Jan 07, 2011 at 08:43:09AM +, Graham Keeling wrote: > On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 12:48:18PM -0500, Phil Stracchino wrote: > > On 01/06/11 12:16, Graham Keeling wrote: > > > With my configuration, a VirtualFull sometimes prevents an Incremental > > > from > > > running, because the Virtual

Re: [Bacula-users] Virtual Backups - Do we actually need full backups anymore?

2011-01-07 Thread Graham Keeling
On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 12:48:18PM -0500, Phil Stracchino wrote: > On 01/06/11 12:16, Graham Keeling wrote: > > With my configuration, a VirtualFull sometimes prevents an Incremental from > > running, because the VirtualFull took too long (or vice versa). I have not > > been > > able to solve this

Re: [Bacula-users] Virtual Backups - Do we actually need full backups anymore?

2011-01-07 Thread Graham Keeling
On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 12:52:22PM -0500, Phil Stracchino wrote: > On 01/06/11 12:35, Graham Keeling wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 05:24:07PM +, Mister IT Guru wrote: > >> On 06/01/2011 17:16, Graham Keeling wrote: > >>> So, I would be very pleased if a VirtualFull also grabbed new files f

Re: [Bacula-users] Virtual Backups - Do we actually need full backups anymore?

2011-01-06 Thread Phil Stracchino
On 01/06/11 14:55, Silver Salonen wrote: > So which volumes will it use when you want to restore from the job? The last > full and all the other incrementals etc. it used as a basis of VirtualFull? > So you actually cannot rewrite them after you've run VirtualFull from them? > If it were so, it

Re: [Bacula-users] Virtual Backups - Do we actually ne ed full backups anymore?

2011-01-06 Thread Silver Salonen
On Thursday 06 January 2011 20:47:49 Phil Stracchino wrote: > On 01/06/11 12:54, Mister IT Guru wrote: > > Okay, I see the point of Virtual Full Backup - this is to be done > > without talking to the client at call, (i did know that! I've been doing > > my homework!) Well, now that I'm looking at

Re: [Bacula-users] Virtual Backups - Do we actually need full backups anymore?

2011-01-06 Thread Phil Stracchino
On 01/06/11 12:54, Mister IT Guru wrote: > Okay, I see the point of Virtual Full Backup - this is to be done > without talking to the client at call, (i did know that! I've been doing > my homework!) Well, now that I'm looking at the virtual backup in the > capacity in which it was intended, it

Re: [Bacula-users] Virtual Backups - Do we actually need full backups anymore?

2011-01-06 Thread Phil Stracchino
On 01/06/11 12:36, Sean Clark wrote: > I think if you give the virtual full a lower priority than the > incremental, you can schedule both for the same day and have it always > do the incremental then the virtual full in the correct order (haven't > actually TRIED to do this myself, so I'm guessing

Re: [Bacula-users] Virtual Backups - Do we actually need full backups anymore?

2011-01-06 Thread Mister IT Guru
On 06/01/2011 17:44, Graham Keeling wrote: > On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 11:36:10AM -0600, Sean Clark wrote: >> On 01/06/2011 11:24 AM, Mister IT Guru wrote: >>> On 06/01/2011 17:16, Graham Keeling wrote: On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 05:02:47PM +, Mister IT Guru wrote: > I've been trying to get

Re: [Bacula-users] Virtual Backups - Do we actually need full backups anymore?

2011-01-06 Thread Phil Stracchino
On 01/06/11 12:35, Graham Keeling wrote: > On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 05:24:07PM +, Mister IT Guru wrote: >> On 06/01/2011 17:16, Graham Keeling wrote: >>> So, I would be very pleased if a VirtualFull also grabbed new files from the >>> client. >>> >> Thank you for pointing this out! So it doesn't

Re: [Bacula-users] Virtual Backups - Do we actually need full backups anymore?

2011-01-06 Thread Phil Stracchino
On 01/06/11 12:16, Graham Keeling wrote: > With my configuration, a VirtualFull sometimes prevents an Incremental from > running, because the VirtualFull took too long (or vice versa). I have not > been > able to solve this, because every idea that I've come up with either doesn't > work or makes

Re: [Bacula-users] Virtual Backups - Do we actually need full backups anymore?

2011-01-06 Thread Graham Keeling
On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 11:36:10AM -0600, Sean Clark wrote: > On 01/06/2011 11:24 AM, Mister IT Guru wrote: > > On 06/01/2011 17:16, Graham Keeling wrote: > >> On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 05:02:47PM +, Mister IT Guru wrote: > >>> I've been trying to get my head around virtual full backups. > >>> >

Re: [Bacula-users] Virtual Backups - Do we actually need full backups anymore?

2011-01-06 Thread Sean Clark
On 01/06/2011 11:24 AM, Mister IT Guru wrote: > On 06/01/2011 17:16, Graham Keeling wrote: >> On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 05:02:47PM +, Mister IT Guru wrote: >>> I've been trying to get my head around virtual full backups. >>> >>> [...] >> So, I would be very pleased if a VirtualFull also grabbed n

Re: [Bacula-users] Virtual Backups - Do we actually need full backups anymore?

2011-01-06 Thread Graham Keeling
On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 05:24:07PM +, Mister IT Guru wrote: > On 06/01/2011 17:16, Graham Keeling wrote: >> On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 05:02:47PM +, Mister IT Guru wrote: >>> I've been trying to get my head around virtual full backups. >>> >>> Now, from my understanding, (i'm 80% through my wo

Re: [Bacula-users] Virtual Backups - Do we actually need full backups anymore?

2011-01-06 Thread Mister IT Guru
On 06/01/2011 17:16, Graham Keeling wrote: > On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 05:02:47PM +, Mister IT Guru wrote: >> I've been trying to get my head around virtual full backups. >> >> Now, from my understanding, (i'm 80% through my work day, shut down 20 >> tickets, and had to deal with too many user in

Re: [Bacula-users] Virtual Backups - Do we actually need full backups anymore?

2011-01-06 Thread Graham Keeling
On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 05:02:47PM +, Mister IT Guru wrote: > I've been trying to get my head around virtual full backups. > > Now, from my understanding, (i'm 80% through my work day, shut down 20 > tickets, and had to deal with too many user incidents for my liking, so > please bare with m