Thanks for the information : I'm using a disk based solution, but after
a few days worth's of Incremental backup, it looks like I could do a
diff backup every weekend (even with 2To backup space is still a concern
!).
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> Are these jobs concurrent? I'm guessing no.
>
For the most part no because this is not really a requirement in my case.
> I'm seeing more and more requirements for duplicate/identical
> backups. That is, identical from a legal standpoint.
>
These files are different than most people would have
On 21 Nov 2007 at 23:15, John Drescher wrote:
> > > ArchiveData-LTO2 - Archived Medical Images Set # 1
> > > ArchiveData2-LTO2 - Archived Medical Images Set # 2
> >
> > How do you manage to get two copies of your backups?
> >
> I do full backups of the same folder (usually containing hundreds of
>
> > ArchiveData-LTO2 - Archived Medical Images Set # 1
> > ArchiveData2-LTO2 - Archived Medical Images Set # 2
>
> How do you manage to get two copies of your backups?
>
I do full backups of the same folder (usually containing hundreds of
GB of data) on each of the above pools with a different job
On 21 Nov 2007 at 22:45, John Drescher wrote:
> I think this is all a matter of preference. I have at minimum 10
> pools. Mainly because I have different kinds of media and different
> things I want to backup seperately and I also keep at least 2 full
> copies of all important stuff with the copie
> I have been using bacula for more than two months now and quite happy with it.
> However, there are some points still unclear to me. As an example, I run a
> backup job which does both full and differential saves and am undecided to
> use either a single pool or one pool for each level. Can someo
Hi Everyone
I have been using bacula for more than two months now and quite happy with it.
However, there are some points still unclear to me. As an example, I run a
backup job which does both full and differential saves and am undecided to
use either a single pool or one pool for each level. C
It should also be noted that Pkgsrc can help port Bacula to other exotic
platforms w/ non-standard userland and tool-chains (old commercial
unices) ~BAS
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[bootstrap Pkgsrc for Darwin (4 cmds)]
goto: http://www.netbsd.org/docs/pkgsrc/platforms.html#darwin
# df -H |grep -i pkg
/dev/disk3s2
Martin,
I was surprised to find the /tmp/BUspool directory no present. All of my jobs
from other servers get spooled to there. I cannot tell from the log files or
the bash_history files how it got blown away though. (A different issue...)
Anyway, the directory has been recreated
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From: John Drescher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Nov 21, 2007 4:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] BU 2 tape does not see newly labeled tape
To: David Gardner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Your assessment is on the mark. This for my clarification...
>
> Do:
> I ins
> On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 13:10:19 -0800 (PST), David Gardner said:
>
> Martin,
>
> I appreciate your help in this matter.
>
> The job never terminates, ever. Output from the messages command at the
> console are as follows:
>
> 21-Nov 13:00 DURANGO-dir JobId 108: Start Backup JobId 108,
> Jo
John, (sorry for the repeat here)
Your assessment is on the mark. This for my clarification...
Do:
I insert a blank tape, label and mount it.
The Thursday night BU commences and backs up the first 36 GB to the first
tape.
When the intervention is required, I "release" the tape and in
Martin,
I appreciate your help in this matter.
The job never terminates, ever. Output from the messages command at the console
are as follows:
21-Nov 13:00 DURANGO-dir JobId 108: Start Backup JobId 108,
Job=DURANGO-Full.2007-11-21_13.00.16
21-Nov 13:00 DURANGO-dir JobId 108: Using Device "File
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From: John Drescher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Nov 21, 2007 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] BU 2 tape does not see newly labeled tape
To: David Gardner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I tend to use the (grey beard) umount command with bconsole. I know it
> un-moun
Hi,
21.11.2007 20:28,, Jason Joines wrote::
>I'm using Bacula 2.2.5 with the director daemon and storage daemon
> running on Linux and writing to disk, currently all to the same file
> volume.
I hope you planned to use more than one volume - as Bacula never
overwrites parts of volumes, but
> On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:59:32 -0800 (PST), David Gardner said:
>
> Hey Gang,
>
> I'm going to rephrase my question about my difficulty backing up to tape.
>
> Given the following volume listing from bconsole and my bacula-dir.conf
> file, will the backup to tape occur when required or will
Hi,
21.11.2007 19:09,, Shon Stephens wrote::
> John,
> I appreciate your offer for continued assistance and no doubt
> will need to make use of it. I hope I haven't burned too many bridges.
I don't think so... most of us here know how "frustration" is spellt ;-)
> I'm going to take a break
I'm using Bacula 2.2.5 with the director daemon and storage daemon
running on Linux and writing to disk, currently all to the same file
volume. I started with the tutorial and have been gradually adding
client file daemons. Today I had a backup running of a just added
client, the 9th. The
Thank you for your time John.
I tend to use the (grey beard) umount command with bconsole. I know it
un-mounts the tape and is ready to accept a new tape for labeling or such tasks.
It didn't make sense to 'release' a tape (volume) especially if the backup is
going to span multiple cartridges.
Anyone feel free to share? Also, how are you building? Native
DarwinCode building environment?
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> I'm going to rephrase my question about my difficulty backing up to tape.
>
> Given the following volume listing from bconsole and my bacula-dir.conf
> file, will the backup to tape occur when required or will Bacula (v.2.2.5)
> again ask for appendable media in the WeeklyPool?
>
Did you unmount
> John,
> I appreciate your offer for continued assistance and no doubt
> will need to make use of it. I hope I haven't burned too many bridges.
> I'm going to take a break and let this sit for the weekend. I'll take
> the earlier suggestion to read the entire manual. I've been picking it
> ap
> Here's a leading question for you, John.
>
> The folks here at my day job run Veritas Netbackup for the Windows
> servers, specifically for the Bare Metal Recovery aspect. Can you
> compare, and contrast, Bacula's features?
>
I have never used netbackup. I was talking about backup executive 6.X
John,
I appreciate your offer for continued assistance and no doubt
will need to make use of it. I hope I haven't burned too many bridges.
I'm going to take a break and let this sit for the weekend. I'll take
the earlier suggestion to read the entire manual. I've been picking it
apart, but not
Re-sending... As Dan just informed me and John pointed out in the other
thread, apparently I've been replying directly to the previous poster
instead of the list. Sorry about that. =\
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>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
>Of Dan Langille
>Sen
Hey Gang,
I'm going to rephrase my question about my difficulty backing up to tape.
Given the following volume listing from bconsole and my bacula-dir.conf file,
will the backup to tape occur when required or will Bacula (v.2.2.5) again ask
for appendable media in the WeeklyPool?
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From: Chris Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Nov 21, 2007 12:19 PM
Subject: RE: [Bacula-users] Staying the course
To: John Drescher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
All,
I just have to say, "Wow!"
This is one of the things I really love about bacula: the community su
> > It required searching the bacula-users posts to discover
> > that I could do "label slots=1-12 pool=scratch barcodes".
>
> There's no need to label blank tapes. Just "add" the entries to the
> appropriate pools, apply matching barcodes and update slots. When bacula
> encounters a blank tape whi
On Wed, 21 Nov 2007, Wes Hardaker wrote:
> I doubt he's unique. I constantly think to myself "wow, bacula is
> really cool; but why isn't it doing that?"
So do I - and then usally find out I've set it up wrong, or that users are
doing stupid things (like "chown -R /path/to/directory/") which re
> John Drescher:
> One reason for this
> is in my experience bacula is so much better (more flexable, no
> extortion licence, significantly better free support, and it actually
> works better) than the vertias backup executive that I was using in
> the past (and still have licenses for).
Here's a
On Nov 21, 2007 11:46 AM, Shon Stephens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I blew up and sent an inappropriate email to the list. I apologize to
> the developers, community at large, and particularly those that have
> been so helpful.
That is fine. If you still want to try bacula. Please post your
quest
On Wed, 21 Nov 2007, Shon Stephens wrote:
> For instance, the full abilities of the commands aren't well
> documented.
They're there, just that you do have to read the entire manual BEFORE
starting to set it up.
groking why it does things is 3/4 of the effort. once you umderstand the
philosoph
> Hi. I've got 2.2.6 built on a system that will be my new director &
> main sd.
>
> I've run backups with the 2.0 server and sd and a 2.2 (windows) client,
> and it seems to work. I haven't tried a restore yet, but I will.
>
> My questions are these:
> - Is this intended to work?
> - Is it reaso
There are ways in which saying "Sorry, I made a mistake." takes more grace and
nobility than not making the mistake in the first place. Kudos.
Thanks for that.
Now, what did you need help with? (Might do well to start a new thread with a
tailored subject line.)
--Tim
---
I blew up and sent an inappropriate email to the list. I apologize to
the developers, community at large, and particularly those that have
been so helpful. I chose Bacula initially because of its flexibility
and features and have let the pressure of getting this project
completed get the better of
> Answers:
> No, my CPU is all time near of zero load..This server is only for
> backups, so isnt anything running in it other than bacula.
> No, harddisk is normal.
> Spool Directory is local and data (source of backup) is local too. All
> job is between disk and tape.
> My Spool size is 100Gb.
>
> >> Bacula is incredibly complex to setup. Its taken 4 months and
> >> its still not working correctly.
>
> DL> You are unique.
>
> I doubt he's unique. I constantly think to myself "wow, bacula is
> really cool; but why isn't it doing that?"
>
> The configuration is complex to set up (but wit
Hey gang,
I think the Bacula project is a good solution for those just need to get the
job done; nothin' flashy. Having said that, the manual needs to be split into
a technical manual and a HOWTO guide. The HOWTO guide would have plenty of
examples and even more references to the technical man
My experiences differ vastly from yours. I have found Bacula to be extremely
flexible, approachable and robust.
There is a fair bit of complexity in making sure everything works together
properly but IMO it is neither disfunctional nor unnecessarily complex. What
complexity does exist is nece
Thanks verymuch for then explanation Martin. I see your point. In fact,
we are not so worried about disaster recovery, since this files I mention in
this backup are text documents.
And generally, users ask restore of some files in particular, not
folders. Besides, they usually don't tend do
On 11/21/07 7:11 AM, "Foo Bar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> all set up (I can't get BAT to compile for example, hopefully the Debian
> stable package will be updated soon).
>
Debian stable will never get the new version until Lenny is released as
stable. I've used the testing and sid packages
On 11/21/07 9:02 AM, "Wes Hardaker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Final word: I love bacula and wouldn't switch away from it if I had a
> choice. But I'm still on the learning curve, and it isn't small. But
> very very worth it. Thanks again!
I've seen Bacula as an enterprise level product.
> "DL" == Dan Langille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Bacula is incredibly complex to setup. Its taken 4 months and its
>> still not working correctly.
DL> You are unique.
I doubt he's unique. I constantly think to myself "wow, bacula is
really cool; but why isn't it doing that?"
The confi
Foo Bar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [..]
> I will of course label at least one new volume, but out of curiosity,
> when,
> if ever, will the single volume I have now be recycled and reused? Was it
> blocked because of the 1 byte limit I set yesterday and should it work
> during the backup tonigh
Flavio Junior schrieb:
> Yeah, I'd tested with btape. But i cant remember its output now ;/
>
> I remember that it take a lng time..
>
> Ralf, how can I check iowait from spool device ?
with dstat, sar or iostat for example.
# iostat /dev/sda 1
Linux 2.6.18-4-amd64 (VU0EM003) 21.11.
Hi All,
whilst still waiting for some responses to my earlier query & having
sympathy for the guy who lost it and emptied his bowels onto a mailing list -
to be recorded for posterity (to his ovious subsequent regret!), these things
happen to us all sometimes.
I think it would be nice i
Hi. I've got 2.2.6 built on a system that will be my new director &
main sd.
I've run backups with the 2.0 server and sd and a 2.2 (windows) client,
and it seems to work. I haven't tried a restore yet, but I will.
My questions are these:
- Is this intended to work?
- Is it reasonable to assum
If I sent an empty mail previously my apologies, pushed the wrong button.
Since I'm working with remote machines I'm looking at the Knoppix CD with
ISO image creation instead of the generic Linux one which seems to want to
burn a physical disc.
The documentation of bacula-rescue says not to use O
Guys,
Sorry, but - there must be a but - I deal with this sort of people
everyday and it has come to a point where being nice and keeping quite
is not a solutions anymore.
Ok, I do understand that Bacula can be difficult some times but that is
why this list is theream I wrong?
I also have h
Janco van der Merwe wrote:
> Shon,
>
> If it took you four months to figure out how Bacula works maybe you
> shouldn't be allowed near any computer!
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, including me. However, continued
belittling of Bacula, Bacula developers, Bacula users, the Bacula
disenchant
Yeah, I'd tested with btape. But i cant remember its output now ;/
I remember that it take a lng time..
Ralf, how can I check iowait from spool device ?
Dont know if it help, but I post my all stats from bconsole here:
http://pastebin.ca/792569
And here, more info about status of my server
Hi,
21.11.2007 15:43,, Janco van der Merwe wrote::
> Shon,
>
> If it took you four months to figure out how Bacula works maybe you
> shouldn't be allowed near any computer!
Janco, calm down please!
Even if you or others don't agree with Shon don't resort to name-calling!
Bacula as a whole - an
Flavio Junior schrieb:
> Thanks Ralf..
> This is exactly what happen..
>
> Worst problem is that all my jobs reach 200G/day, and this is a big
> problem because i'm not at work 24hs/day to keep changing tapes, and
> backup is accumulating :/
>
> Still worst when I need to recover something and ba
Like I said its a rant. Probably a poor choice to post, but I've
really been having some inexplicable problems lately and kirk'd out
something bad this morning. Setting up Bacula to test certain things
went relatively smoothly. Its been setting it up for production that
has presented its biggest ch
Hm... ok...
Speed estimated for LTO1 is among 12 ~ 15 MB/sec.
Just remembering, I got same "problem" doing backups without use of spool.
Answers:
No, my CPU is all time near of zero load..This server is only for
backups, so isnt anything running in it other than bacula.
No, harddisk is normal.
S
Shon,
If it took you four months to figure out how Bacula works maybe you
shouldn't be allowed near any computer!
There are ways and means to do things in Bacula and let me tell you this
if you couldn't do it or find a way you are really incompetent and again
should be allowed to operate a PC.
I
Like I said its a rant. Probably a poor choice to post, but I've
really been having some inexplicable problems lately and kirk'd out
something bad this morning. Setting up Bacula to test certain things
went relatively smoothly. Its been setting it up for production that
has presented its biggest ch
On Nov 21, 2007 9:16 AM, Flavio Junior <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> John, thanks for comments..
>
> But this happens even with full backups.
> I just post a Differential backup because this have all needed info
> without a change tape needed.
>
> Below I post data about a Full backup:
>
> 20-Nov 02
--- John Drescher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I have mostly problems with documentation and the learning curve, which
> is
> > especially going to be a problem for those that will use it once I get
> it
> > all set up (I can't get BAT to compile for example, hopefully the
> Debian
> > stable p
> I have mostly problems with documentation and the learning curve, which is
> especially going to be a problem for those that will use it once I get it
> all set up (I can't get BAT to compile for example, hopefully the Debian
> stable package will be updated soon).
>
BAT is a very recent addition
> >
> > Basically I can't see that its useable for anything more than backing
> > up a single system, and even then better be careful.
> >
> I backup 50+ computers over gigabit network with the director,
> database and storage on different machines. Actually I have several
> bacula-sd machines beca
--- Dan Langille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 21 Nov 2007 at 8:07, Shon Stephens wrote:
>
> > Ok. This is a rant and you can remove it from the list if you want to
> > later. I just have to vent.
> >
> > Bacula is incredibly complex to setup. Its taken 4 months and its
> > still not working
> Ok. This is a rant and you can remove it from the list if you want to
> later. I just have to vent.
>
> Bacula is incredibly complex to setup. Its taken 4 months and its
> still not working correctly.
>
>
If you would have asked questions about the problems you were
experiencing we would have hel
--- Alan Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Nov 2007, Foo Bar wrote:
>
> > Additional info: Bacula 2.2.6 on Debian 4.0, /mnt/bacula is mounted
> using
> > smbfs on a W2K3 NAS gateway.
>
> Why not put a bacula client directly on the NAS head?
Various reasons, chief amongst which supp
> Build OS: i686-pc-linux-gnu mandrake (Official)
> JobId: 688
> Job:BackupImagens.2007-11-21_00.10.25
> Backup Level: Differential, since=2007-11-20 02:02:21
> Client: "bloo-fd" 2.2.6 (10Nov07)
> i686-pc-linux-g
Thanks Ralf..
This is exactly what happen..
Worst problem is that all my jobs reach 200G/day, and this is a big
problem because i'm not at work 24hs/day to keep changing tapes, and
backup is accumulating :/
Still worst when I need to recover something and bacula is recording
tape all day... :/
Shon Stephens a écrit :
> Ok. This is a rant and you can remove it from the list if you want to
> later. I just have to vent.
>
> Bacula is incredibly complex to setup. Its taken 4 months and its
> still not working correctly.
>
> Things that should be easy that Bacula makes overly complex:
>
> Lab
Hi,
21.11.2007 14:07,, Shon Stephens wrote::
> Ok. This is a rant and you can remove it from the list if you want to
> later. I just have to vent.
I don't think your mail will be removed as that's rather difficult
with a mailing list :-)
> Bacula is incredibly complex to setup. Its taken 4 mont
On Wed, 21 Nov 2007, Foo Bar wrote:
> Additional info: Bacula 2.2.6 on Debian 4.0, /mnt/bacula is mounted using
> smbfs on a W2K3 NAS gateway.
Why not put a bacula client directly on the NAS head?
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On 21 Nov 2007 at 8:07, Shon Stephens wrote:
> Ok. This is a rant and you can remove it from the list if you want to
> later. I just have to vent.
>
> Bacula is incredibly complex to setup. Its taken 4 months and its
> still not working correctly.
You are unique.
> Things that should be easy th
Alejandro Alfonso schrieb:
>
> only a suggestion, as i've never used a scenario like yours: how are the
> disk partitioned and mounted?
>
> Maybe, using the same device for "read to spool" and "send spool to
> LTO", read job is done twice. Then, spoolled attrs must be send to database
I don't th
Ok. This is a rant and you can remove it from the list if you want to
later. I just have to vent.
Bacula is incredibly complex to setup. Its taken 4 months and its
still not working correctly.
Things that should be easy that Bacula makes overly complex:
Labeling tapes
Assigning tapes to pools
Re
Hello!
only a suggestion, as i've never used a scenario like yours: how are the
disk partitioned and mounted?
Maybe, using the same device for "read to spool" and "send spool to
LTO", read job is done twice. Then, spoolled attrs must be send to database
And... look your report:
Using tar:
trans
Good morning folks...
This is my first e-mail to the list, I'm brazilian so, sorry for my english :)
My problem is follow:
I have a dedicated backup server using bacula with disk and LTO-1 storages.
When I was using tar/star unix commands to record the tape I was
getting a transfer rate near of
Hi,
I've no doubt I will be referred to some part of the manual that I
missed ;).
But I have had a problem for some time now and done nothing about it.
If a job takes long enough to cause subsequent job(s) to fail with start wait
time exceeded.
(Fatal error: Job cancelled because max
Additional info: Bacula 2.2.6 on Debian 4.0, /mnt/bacula is mounted using
smbfs on a W2K3 NAS gateway.
--- Foo Bar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> after changing the pool settings for a volume (from 365days retention to
> 2,
> lowering the number of bytes to 1 GB max etc.) and doing an 'upd
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