On 2004-01-20 21:13:09 -0800 Mark Knecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
On Tue, 2004-01-20 at 20:51, Jason Clouse wrote:
They expect (rightly or wrongly) that they'll have a better
experience if
they have more than 2 monitors. They got a new set of 5.1 or 7.1
monitors
for Christmas and they want
> > I guess it depends. I would be _quite_ shocked if I played a stereo
> > soundfile and I got output over all eight speakers of a couple of
> > setups I have around here.
>
> I understand that, having worked in semi-pro recording facilities
> before. But an awful lot of people aren't thinking
On Tue, 2004-01-20 at 20:51, Jason Clouse wrote:
> They expect
> (rightly or wrongly) that they'll have a better experience if they
> have more than 2 monitors. They got a new set of 5.1 or 7.1 monitors
> for Christmas and they want to try out all their music on them.
Yeah, I can understand it
On 2004-01-20 17:09:35 -0800 Fernando Pablo Lopez-Lezcano
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I guess it depends. I would be _quite_ shocked if I played a stereo
soundfile and I got output over all eight speakers of a couple of
setups
I have around here.
I understand that, having worked in semi-pro record
On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 14:37, Noah Roberts wrote;
> This is bull. The type of motherboard on which the sound chipset
> resides should not have an effect on the operation of the sound
> chipset's driver. If there is such a dependency then the driver has
> been poorly designed.
It probabl
On 2004-01-20 17:58:57 -0700 Robert Bushman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
If I'm reading your offer correctly, Jason, it
sounds like you're proposing that:
1. You find the places in the documentation that
aren't what a typical user will be looking for.
2. You would then ask the developers to clarif
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 06:26, Don Levey wrote;
>
> > This doesn't appear to be the case. Am I asking for the ALSA
> > developers to obtain and test every sound boadr on the market,
> > every chipset? Not at all. I wouldn't mind some sort of clear
> > chart, as has
On Tue, 20 Jan 2004, Jason Clouse wrote:
> I'm not sure this document is really all that descriptive. For
> example:
>
> ttable {# Transfer table (bidimensional compound of
> # cchannels * schannels numbers)
>
> Some questions:
> 1. What does transfer table mean? It's kind of o
On Tue, 2004-01-20 at 15:43, Jason Clouse wrote:
> On 2004-01-20 09:51:52 -0800 Stuart Felenstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > If one wants handholding and the type of support to walk through
> > traces ,
> > debugs, etc
>
> Perhaps there's a disconnect here? I don't think anybody is askin
> >> For instance, 2 channel audio should automatically be
> >> copied to all the outputs on a multichannel card, without
> >> changing anything or setting up asound.conf.
> >
> > Uhh... I sure don't want that. That's unexpected behaviour.
>
> Many people expect that routing. I know I did. Qu
I agree, the .asoundrc docs are great, and I've been having a lot of fun
finally delving into the various plugins. The flexibility is truly
amazing!
As for the insulting nature of too many posts here (and I don't mean
those having a decent discussion of ways to improve things), all I can say
i
On Tue, 2004-01-20 at 16:35, Jason Clouse wrote:
> On 2004-01-21 00:20:30 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> For instance, 2 channel audio should automatically be
> >> copied to all the outputs on a multichannel card, without
> >> changing anything or setting up asound.conf.
Jason Clouse wrote:
On 2004-01-20 09:51:52 -0800 Stuart Felenstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
If one wants handholding and the type of support to walk through
traces , debugs, etc
Perhaps there's a disconnect here? I don't think anybody is asking
for "support." What they're doing is saying
On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 10:04 am, Sam Vilain wrote:
> ...
> All it needs is a PCI and USB device database - ie, the numbers
> provided by `lspci' and `lsusb' are the primary keys in the database.
> With these entries, allow people to submit success or failure reports
> for their hardware, along with th
On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 13:20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote;
> What would ever give you the idea that "all speakers fire on
> 2-channel audio" should be the default?
Because a dolby decoder makes the back speakers hiss when playing
non-dolby input ? :)
--
Sam Vilain, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
There ought t
On 2004-01-21 00:20:30 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
For instance, 2 channel audio should automatically be
copied to all the outputs on a multichannel card, without
changing anything or setting up asound.conf.
Uhh... I sure don't want that. That's unexpected behaviour.
Many p
On 2004-01-21 02:08:55 +0200 Kai Vehmanen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
... and it has. For example the ALSA wiki provides this:
http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=.asoundrc
... that's in my opinion more than enough to get you started (with
references
to more detailed docs and all).
I'm not s
> For instance, 2 channel audio should automatically be
> copied to all the outputs on a multichannel card, without
> changing anything or setting up asound.conf.
Uhh... I sure don't want that. That's unexpected behaviour.
I want the centre/rear channels to respond to real
multi-channel audio,
On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 06:26, Don Levey wrote;
> This doesn't appear to be the case. Am I asking for the ALSA
> developers to obtain and test every sound boadr on the market,
> every chipset? Not at all. I wouldn't mind some sort of clear
> chart, as has been suggested, specifying just WHA
On Tue, 20 Jan 2004, Kai Vehmanen wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> My biggest personal issue with ALSA is that I have been so far unable to
>> find any documentation that explains what the configuration file
>> directives represent. I don't know about you but I find it a l
On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 05:01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote;
> It is natural for driver developers to think in terms of
> chipsets, because that's how the drivers are written. But
> users (the people doing all the whining) think in terms of
> PRODUCTS. It's not an EMU10k1, it's a Creative SB Live!
On 2004-01-20 09:51:52 -0800 Stuart Felenstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
If one wants handholding and the type of support to walk through
traces ,
debugs, etc
Perhaps there's a disconnect here? I don't think anybody is asking
for "support." What they're doing is saying, "all is not well," an
On 2004-01-20 16:01:56 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I've been half-reading the ongoing complaining threads, and
I think that, overall, the people doing the whining are
being unreasonable.
I'm not the only one posting, but I don't think I've been complaining
and I don't think
On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> On Tue, 20 Jan 2004, Don Levey wrote:
>> For me, I want to do music with pro-gear on Linux and like to have source
To correct the quotation, the above text was written by me, not Don.
>> ALSA does work very well and has done so for a long time! Mo
> On Tue, 20 Jan 2004, Don Levey wrote:
> For me, I want to do music with pro-gear on Linux and like to have source
> code access to all sw I'm using (so I don't have to rely on certain
> companies staying in business to keep on working using the methods I use
> today).
For me this describes my
On Tue, 20 Jan 2004, Don Levey wrote:
> Let me start off by saying that I salute the long and hard work that
> developers everywhere put into their products. I am not a developer, nor do
> I play one on TV. I'm just a professional user and tech support person. I
> like to think I have above-ave
On Tue, 20 Jan 2004, Don Levey wrote:
> Yeah, it was all free - and I'm not asking for my money back. The question
> I continually have is "what is the long-term goal of Linux and the
> open-source community?" Is it a hobbyist OS? Is it something which is
The open-source community doesn't real
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-Original Message-From: Stuart Felenstein
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 12:48
PMTo: Don LeveySubject: RE: [Alsa-user] Recent
Complaints Threads
My 2cents! are we close to a dolloar yet (see below)
Don Levey <[EM
My 2cents! are we close to a dolloar yet (see below)
Don Levey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Or is this something which strives for widespread acceptance in the broader business world, to be (if not on the desktops) on the approved list of every manager out there?
It has gained large acceptance i
Let me start off by saying that I salute the long and hard work that
developers everywhere put into their products. I am not a developer, nor do
I play one on TV. I'm just a professional user and tech support person. I
like to think I have above-average skills and experience, along with the
abil
> such an argument is nonsense.
> do you expect that 2.6.0 kernel works flawlessly with
> EVERY SINGLE driver since it's released as the "stable"
> tree? and, you believe Linus shouldn't release 2.6.0
> until all modules get fixed?
>
> so it is for ALSA. we released 1.0.x, but not every
> singl
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