On Tue, 2004-01-20 at 15:43, Jason Clouse wrote:
> On 2004-01-20 09:51:52 -0800 Stuart Felenstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > If one wants handholding and the type of support to walk through 
> > traces , 
> > debugs, etc
> 
> Perhaps there's a disconnect here?  I don't think anybody is asking 
> for "support."  What they're doing is saying, "all is not well," and 
> asking for the opportunity to influence future development.  Right?
> 
Hear hear! That's a big part of it. But beyond 'future development' also
the opportunity to influence development real-time.

I think there is a big disconnect between when a user reports a problem
and any visibility into when that problem is going to get attention. (If
ever.) I'm sure that developers either work on what interests them
personally or sometimes what they think will probably make the biggest
difference to the most amount of people, but that doesn't mean they are
working on a problem that matters to you.

In my case, after waiting for about 5-6 months with apparently no one
doing anything on my sound card's driver, Thomas Charbonnel came to the
rescue. We learned to work together remotely. I gave him an account on
this machine. He did the hacking and I did the listening. Between the
two of us we got results. Honestly, within about a few hours of work
over one weekend, I think, we had made significant headway and the
results got much better. Then, over the next month or so I would find
things and report them to him, he would log in, do some changes, and the
situation improved to the point where the card became mostly usable for
me and others.

I don't think there's any reason that Alsa developers have to buy lots
of cards if people look for innovative and flexible ways to solve the
problems that are out there. This worked pretty well for Thomas and I.
Others will likely come up with other ways to do the debug and improve
things. 



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