On Mon, 2006-01-23 at 23:52 -0600, Brian Dunn wrote:
> I'm running alsa 1.0.10 on my SB Live! Value and i need some help with
> capture settings.
> my shoe-string budget studio features a soundcard with a blown line
> in. I need stereo input so i can capture two live channels at the
> same time in
On Tuesday 24 January 2006 07:37, Bill Unruh wrote:
>
> ?? And how many such suits have there been?
> You are maybe going to take on Microsoft and see if their tcp stack
> contains any of your GPL code ( you after all cannot sue for anyone else).
> What is "versin controll system"
btw,
MS used th
On Tuesday 24 January 2006 07:37, Bill Unruh wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Jan 2006, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
> > On Tuesday 24 January 2006 07:04, Bill Unruh wrote:
> >> On Mon, 23 Jan 2006, Lee Revell wrote:
> >>> On Tue, 2006-01-24 at 03:03 +0100, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
> btw, where are sud
I'm running alsa 1.0.10 on my SB Live! Value and i need some help with
capture settings.
my shoe-string budget studio features a soundcard with a blown line
in. I need stereo input so i can capture two live channels at the
same time in ardour. I've wired up a head phone jack to the aux in
port on
On Mon, 2006-01-23 at 22:27 -0800, Bill Unruh wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Jan 2006, Lee Revell wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 2006-01-24 at 06:02 +0200, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
> >> I was talking about the moral/ideological issue.
> >>
> >> My point is that from moral/ideological point of view it doesn't make
> >>
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
On Tuesday 24 January 2006 07:04, Bill Unruh wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jan 2006, Lee Revell wrote:
On Tue, 2006-01-24 at 03:03 +0100, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
btw, where are suddenly all this 'we need a fix binary abi' people are
coming
from?
Unt
On Mon, 23 Jan 2006, Lee Revell wrote:
On Tue, 2006-01-24 at 06:02 +0200, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
I was talking about the moral/ideological issue.
My point is that from moral/ideological point of view it doesn't make
sense to insist on OSS only in one case.
It's not a moral or ideological is
On Mon, 23 Jan 2006, Lee Revell wrote:
On Tue, 2006-01-24 at 05:28 +0200, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
"
The difference is that the driver code is executed by the
host CPU, while the firmware code is executed by the device
"
- kinda funny :-).
OK, I propose to run a dual core or dual CPU computer.
On Tuesday 24 January 2006 07:04, Bill Unruh wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Jan 2006, Lee Revell wrote:
> > On Tue, 2006-01-24 at 03:03 +0100, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
> >> btw, where are suddenly all this 'we need a fix binary abi' people are
> >> coming
> >> from?
> >>
> >> Until ca 2 month ago they nev
On Mon, 23 Jan 2006, Lee Revell wrote:
On Tue, 2006-01-24 at 03:03 +0100, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
btw, where are suddenly all this 'we need a fix binary abi' people are
coming
from?
Until ca 2 month ago they never spoke up, and suddenly in every forum
or mailing lists are popping up peopl
On Tue, 2006-01-24 at 06:02 +0200, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
> I was talking about the moral/ideological issue.
>
> My point is that from moral/ideological point of view it doesn't make
> sense to insist on OSS only in one case.
It's not a moral or ideological issue, it's a technical one - there's
On Tue, 2006-01-24 at 06:02 +0200, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
>
> I was trying to show that if we at all agree to live with closed
> source
> software, i.e. if agree to put extreme ideology aside, then we should
> think
> about finding a well defined place for closed source SW, so end users
> will be
On Tuesday 24 January 2006 05:02, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
> I was talking about the moral/ideological issue.
>
> My point is that from moral/ideological point of view it doesn't make
> sense to insist on OSS only in one case.
>
there is no moral issue.
Only a technical one.
drivers are run in ker
I was talking about the moral/ideological issue.
My point is that from moral/ideological point of view it doesn't make
sense to insist on OSS only in one case.
I do not argue with the definition of linking and its effect on GPL.
I was trying to show that if we at all agree to live with closed so
On Tue, 2006-01-24 at 05:28 +0200, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
> "
> The difference is that the driver code is executed by the
> host CPU, while the firmware code is executed by the device
> "
>
> - kinda funny :-).
>
> OK, I propose to run a dual core or dual CPU computer.
>
> One CPU would be for
"
The difference is that the driver code is executed by the
host CPU, while the firmware code is executed by the device
"
- kinda funny :-).
OK, I propose to run a dual core or dual CPU computer.
One CPU would be for opens source software and the other - for closed
source software.
Now, are the
On Tue, 2006-01-24 at 05:12 +0200, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
> > > 1) we have an IDE drive separated from the CPU by IDE bus. The IDE drive
> > > runs closed-source firmware, which is in terms of the controller inside
> > > the
> > > drive still software. There is no fuss about it;
> > >
> > > 2)
I do not see the point - malfunctioning hardware, regardless of openness
or closeness of driver, can render the system unusable.
So what ?
My point was about interaction of open and closed source software.
I still believe there is a discrimination (PCI <-> IDE attitude).
By the way, both IDE dr
On Tue, 2006-01-24 at 04:49 +0200, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
> Regarding
>
> "
> firmwares are not drivers. Firmwares are an entity of their own. Please
> inform
> yourself about firmwares and what they do and where they live and compare
> them to drivers. And there are many firmware hacks or ope
On Tuesday 24 January 2006 03:22, Bill Unruh wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Jan 2006, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
> > On Tuesday 24 January 2006 02:43, Bill Unruh wrote:
> >> On Tue, 24 Jan 2006, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday 24 January 2006 02:15, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
> "
> The
Regarding
"
firmwares are not drivers. Firmwares are an entity of their own. Please inform
yourself about firmwares and what they do and where they live and compare
them to drivers. And there are many firmware hacks or open firmwares if you
use a search engine of your choice.
".
Specifically,
On Tue, 2006-01-24 at 04:39 +0200, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
> Regarding
>
> "
> kernel
> developers made it clear that the days of them tolerating proprietary
> drivers are numbered.
> "
>
> I am sorry I do not have time at the moment to try XEN (I've already
> expressed this idea).
>
> The idea
On Tuesday 24 January 2006 03:22, Bill Unruh wrote:
>
> > btw, X11 was able to talk to hardware without any kernel-drivers.
>
> But it has to talk via the video card drivers which are kernel drivers I
> would assume.
>
you may read up about Xfree86 3.6 and voodoo cards.
There was no need for ker
Regarding
"
kernel
developers made it clear that the days of them tolerating proprietary
drivers are numbered.
"
I am sorry I do not have time at the moment to try XEN (I've already
expressed this idea).
The idea is:
1) in a user machine there will be at least two kernels running
- the main one
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
On Tuesday 24 January 2006 02:43, Bill Unruh wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
On Tuesday 24 January 2006 02:15, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
"
The Linux developers DO NOT WANT to make it possible to write closed
source drive
On Tue, 2006-01-24 at 03:03 +0100, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
> Newsflash: the userland abi&api is fix. There is nothing to whine
> about.
>
Yes. No one is trying to tell Nvidia & co "you must open your libGL
implementation if you want your hardware supported". The way forward
is, as Arjan va
On Tue, 2006-01-24 at 03:03 +0100, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
> btw, where are suddenly all this 'we need a fix binary abi' people are
> coming
> from?
>
> Until ca 2 month ago they never spoke up, and suddenly in every forum
> or mailing lists are popping up people, most of them posting for th
On Tuesday 24 January 2006 02:52, Bill Unruh wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Jan 2006, Lee Revell wrote:
> > On Mon, 2006-01-23 at 17:34 -0800, Bill Unruh wrote:
> >> Well, I also think that is a mistake. A Write once would also be far
> >> more
> >> stable as far as Linux itself is concerned. If every time th
On Mon, 2006-01-23 at 17:52 -0800, Bill Unruh wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Jan 2006, Lee Revell wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 2006-01-23 at 17:34 -0800, Bill Unruh wrote:
> >> Well, I also think that is a mistake. A Write once would also be far
> >> more
> >> stable as far as Linux itself is concerned. If every tim
On Tuesday 24 January 2006 02:43, Bill Unruh wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Jan 2006, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
> > On Tuesday 24 January 2006 02:15, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
> >> "
> >> The Linux developers DO NOT WANT to make it possible to write closed
> >> source drivers. Many consider it a violation o
On Mon, 23 Jan 2006, Lee Revell wrote:
On Mon, 2006-01-23 at 17:34 -0800, Bill Unruh wrote:
Well, I also think that is a mistake. A Write once would also be far
more
stable as far as Linux itself is concerned. If every time the kernel
changes you have to worry whether or not your driver is brok
Probably the sysadmin was right -
http://search.synopsys.com/search?q=linux+kernel+version&spell=1&site=www&output=xml_no_dtd&client=www&access=p&proxystylesheet=www
shows mostly 2.4.* kernels.
I didn't read every link, but that's what I see at first glance.
Only in 2005 SYNOPSYS announced supp
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
On Tuesday 24 January 2006 02:15, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
"
The Linux developers DO NOT WANT to make it possible to write closed
source drivers. Many consider it a violation of the GPL.
"
- GPL allows to run commercial closed source programs u
On Mon, 2006-01-23 at 17:34 -0800, Bill Unruh wrote:
> Well, I also think that is a mistake. A Write once would also be far
> more
> stable as far as Linux itself is concerned. If every time the kernel
> changes you have to worry whether or not your driver is broken, it
> makes
> for highly unstabl
On Mon, 2006-01-23 at 17:34 -0800, Bill Unruh wrote:
> >
> > He is also incorrect about wireless, there are plenty of wireless
> > chipsets with open drivers.
>
> Then why all the closed source firmware? I also recall reading that
> the FCC
> demanded closed source setting of the frequencies to pr
On Tue, 2006-01-24 at 03:33 +0200, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
> The programs are userspace.
>
> The argument of 2.4.* <-> 2.6.* was given by a sysadmin, I do not
> know to which extent the sysadmin was competent.
>
> However, he said it was the cause of not upgrading company
> RHEL-servers to 2.6.*
On Mon, 23 Jan 2006, Lee Revell wrote:
On Tue, 2006-01-24 at 02:59 +0200, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
We have already discussed this, here's yet another opinion:
http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/01/23/214258 ->
"
This is why we need a kernel api and abi
We need a consistant and s
The programs are userspace.
The argument of 2.4.* <-> 2.6.* was given by a sysadmin, I do not
know to which extent the sysadmin was competent.
However, he said it was the cause of not upgrading company
RHEL-servers to 2.6.* kernel.
On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 20:25:08 -0500
Lee Revell <[EMAIL PROTECTED
On Tuesday 24 January 2006 02:15, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
> "
> The Linux developers DO NOT WANT to make it possible to write closed
> source drivers. Many consider it a violation of the GPL.
> "
>
> - GPL allows to run commercial closed source programs under a
> GPL'ed OS. That is, it doesn't pro
On Tue, 2006-01-24 at 03:15 +0200, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
> SYNOPSYS and Cadence VLSI-related tools are a few examples, though,
> as far as SYNOPSYS is concerned, only 2.4.* (and NOT 2.6.*) kernels
> are supported because the former are considered to have stable API.
The API exported to userspac
On Tue, 2006-01-24 at 03:15 +0200, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
> "
> The Linux developers DO NOT WANT to make it possible to write closed
> source drivers. Many consider it a violation of the GPL.
> "
>
> - GPL allows to run commercial closed source programs under a
> GPL'ed OS. That is, it doesn't p
"
The Linux developers DO NOT WANT to make it possible to write closed
source drivers. Many consider it a violation of the GPL.
"
- GPL allows to run commercial closed source programs under a
GPL'ed OS. That is, it doesn't prohibit this.
SYNOPSYS and Cadence VLSI-related tools are a few examples
On Tue, 2006-01-24 at 02:59 +0200, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
> We have already discussed this, here's yet another opinion:
>
> http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/01/23/214258 ->
>
> "
> This is why we need a kernel api and abi
> (Score:2)
> by Billly Gates (198444) Alter Relationship on Tues
We have already discussed this, here's yet another opinion:
http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/01/23/214258 ->
"
This is why we need a kernel api and abi
(Score:2)
by Billly Gates (198444) Alter Relationship on Tuesday January 24, @02:03AM
(#14544582)
(http://www.livejournal.com/users/sin
On Mon, 2006-01-23 at 19:22 -0500, Jeremy Baker wrote:
> Please help this newbie find and install a Linux driver for the sound
> card: creative sound blaster Audigy 2 Platinum eX
> Any help would be great.
Should work with the emu10k1 driver.
Lee
--
Jeremy Baker wrote:
Please help this newbie find and install a Linux driver for the sound card:
creative sound blaster Audigy 2 Platinum eX
Any help would be great.
--
Jeremy Baker
SBN 634
337 College Hill
Johnson, VT
05656
The ALSA snd-emu10k1 kernel module should work fine.
James
---
Please help this newbie find and install a Linux driver for the sound card: creative sound blaster Audigy 2 Platinum eXAny help would be great. -- Jeremy BakerSBN 634337 College HillJohnson, VT
05656
On Mon, 2006-01-23 at 21:38 +0100, Harold Aling wrote:
> Harold Aling wrote:
> > I own a Asus P4R800-V Deluxe motherboard which has an on board ATI IXP
> > sound card. I used to have this sound card disabled because I have
> > also a Terratec EWS88 MT/D 10in 10out card. I bought myself a cheap
>
Harold Aling wrote:
I own a Asus P4R800-V Deluxe motherboard which has an on board ATI IXP
sound card. I used to have this sound card disabled because I have
also a Terratec EWS88 MT/D 10in 10out card. I bought myself a cheap
gameport/mpu midi in and out cable and I now want to use the mpu on
On Mon, 23 Jan 2006, Chris wrote:
On 23 Jan 2006, at 18:49, Bill Unruh wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jan 2006, Chris wrote:
On 23 Jan 2006, at 18:35, Bill Unruh wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jan 2006, Chris Birkinshaw wrote:
On 21 Jan 2006, at 15:24, Chris Birkinshaw wrote:
I have a M Audio Transit USB sounca
On 23 Jan 2006, at 18:49, Bill Unruh wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jan 2006, Chris wrote:
On 23 Jan 2006, at 18:35, Bill Unruh wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jan 2006, Chris Birkinshaw wrote:
On 21 Jan 2006, at 15:24, Chris Birkinshaw wrote:
I have a M Audio Transit USB souncard, and have found
a high pitched no
On Mon, 23 Jan 2006, Chris wrote:
On 23 Jan 2006, at 18:35, Bill Unruh wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jan 2006, Chris Birkinshaw wrote:
On 21 Jan 2006, at 15:24, Chris Birkinshaw wrote:
I have a M Audio Transit USB souncard, and have found
a high pitched noise comes out of my speakers when
starting
On 23 Jan 2006, at 18:35, Bill Unruh wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jan 2006, Chris Birkinshaw wrote:
On 21 Jan 2006, at 15:24, Chris Birkinshaw wrote:
I have a M Audio Transit USB souncard, and have found
a high pitched noise comes out of my speakers when
starting jackd. This noise is not apparent w
On Mon, 23 Jan 2006, Chris Birkinshaw wrote:
On 21 Jan 2006, at 15:24, Chris Birkinshaw wrote:
I have a M Audio Transit USB souncard, and have found
a high pitched noise comes out of my speakers when
starting jackd. This noise is not apparent when simply
playing through the device using a
On 21 Jan 2006, at 15:24, Chris Birkinshaw wrote:
I have a M Audio Transit USB souncard, and have found
a high pitched noise comes out of my speakers when
starting jackd. This noise is not apparent when simply
playing through the device using alsaplayer.
Has anyone else got this? Has anyon
I've been trying off and on over the past 4 years (more off than on)
trying to get my Logitech Wingman Extreme Digital 3D joystick to run on
my als4000 gameport and hardware. This hardware and joystick
combination worked flawlessly under Win98 and Win2000, but has never
worked under linux start
Hi all,
Does anyone use an M-audio device like MobilePre or FastTrack with success?
I've read in some archives that some peoples have try to use them, but i have
not find any clear feedback.
Some talks about firmware loading, others talks about usb compliance problem...
I plan to use it with a l
Hello,
I am trying to get a usb audio compatible sound card to work on the kwikbyte
kb9202 (www.kwikbyte.com) development board. It is a board based on the
at91rm9200 circuit which has an arm920t core. I am running kernel 2.6.13 and
I have the alsa usb audio device drivers compiled into the kernel
I own a Asus P4R800-V Deluxe motherboard which has an on board ATI IXP
sound card. I used to have this sound card disabled because I have also
a Terratec EWS88 MT/D 10in 10out card. I bought myself a cheap
gameport/mpu midi in and out cable and I now want to use the mpu on the
ATI IXP sound car
Jonas Norberg wrote:
Hello,
I am trying to get a usb audio compatible sound card to work on the kwikbyte
kb9202 (www.kwikbyte.com) development board. It is a board based on the
at91rm9200 circuit which has an arm920t core. I am running kernel 2.6.13 and
I have the alsa usb audio device drivers
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