Regarding " kernel developers made it clear that the days of them tolerating proprietary drivers are numbered. "
I am sorry I do not have time at the moment to try XEN (I've already expressed this idea). The idea is: 1) in a user machine there will be at least two kernels running - the main one, which will also be the most up to date one, and the guest one; 2) the main kernel will be configured in a manner NOT to deal with proprietary driver WiFi card, proprietary driver sound card, etc; 3) the guest kernel will be of the well tested older version with which the proprietary driver WiFi card, proprietary driver sound card, etc. did and do work, and this older guest kernel will take care of the proprietary driver hardware; 4) interaction between the two kernels is as easy as between two computers on network, i.e. the guest kernel can share its WiFi connection with the main kernel, sound can be streamed to the guest kernel, etc. As I said earlier, if I succeed in achieving this, this will be the proof of possibility of absolutely stable ABI - the older guest kernel's ABI will be the one. On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 21:11:25 -0500 Lee Revell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2006-01-24 at 03:03 +0100, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: > > btw, where are suddenly all this 'we need a fix binary abi' people are > > coming > > from? > > > > Until ca 2 month ago they never spoke up, and suddenly in every forum > > or mailing lists are popping up people, most of them posting for the > > first time, demanding a fix ABI. > > It seems to have coincided with the "Linux in a binary world (a doomsday > scenario)" thread on LKML around the same time, when some kernel > developers made it clear that the days of them tolerating proprietary > drivers are numbered. Many people seem to be afraid they will lose > support for their favorite binary-driver hardware, and are trying to put > pressure on the kernel community, rather than on the vendors where it > belongs. > > Lee > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files > for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes > searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=103432&bid=230486&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > Alsa-user mailing list > Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user > ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=103432&bid=230486&dat=121642 _______________________________________________ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user