Re: ASSEMBLER-LIST Digest - 12 Apr 2025 to 13 Apr 2025 (#2025-21)

On 4/13/25 23:33, James Mulder wrote: If I am reading the code correctly, I think that CONVTOD will give return code x'14' if a date beyond Sept 17, 2042 for TODVAL is specified. ... Will STCK set error status if issued on such a date?  It would seem to make sense if CONVTOD returned the

Re: Store-Clock-Fast Facility

On 4/12/25 11:13, Jonathan Scott wrote: "When the multiple-epoch facility is installed in the configuration and the clock-comparator sign control is one, comparison follows the rules of signed binary arithmetic."     ... Will STCKCONV(STCKVAL) and CONVTOD(TODVAL) obey the same windowing rules,

Re: ISPF EDIT CHANGE regex requirements?

On Sat, 12 Apr 2025 20:22:39 -0700, Tom Brennan wrote: >No, I keep meaning to. But I think that's getting way off what started >this thread, which was: >"Or, empower ISPF to invoke vim as an alternate editor." > Somewhat earlier, there was, "an Idea to add PCRE refer backs to ISPF Edit." Possible

Re: Store-Clock-Fast Facility

On 4/12/25 14:06, James Mulder wrote: Is z/OS used to manage any of the systems where your retirement money is invested? Social Security? Brokerage firms? Banks? If so, you may have a vested interest in this issue even after you retire.     ... Three months ago I would have been confident t

Re: Store-Clock-Fast Facility

On 4/12/25 14:10, James Mulder wrote: Current field releases of z/OS do not turn on the clock-comparator sign control bit. z/OS 3.2 will be the first release that can turn it on (but only on test systems). ... You can raise more questions than I ask. o Is the clock-comparator sign cont

Re: ISPF EDIT CHANGE regex requirements?

On Sat, 12 Apr 2025 09:08:48 +0200, salva wrote: >Meanwhile, until IBM offers a better regexp approach (especially for >captures in replacements), I use a quick-and-dirty macro to: > - Clearly, the Idea should b for ISPF to support Edit plug-ins. These could use desktop displays by transports su

Re: Store-Clock-Fast Facility

On 4/11/25 22:42, James Mulder wrote: But thanks for all that. This bigger concern for programs that use STCK or STCKF is the TOD clock wrap in September 2042. Any code that uses a logical compare (like CLC) for two timestamps will get the wrong result when one timestamp is before the wr

Re: ISPF EDIT CHANGE regex requirements?

On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 21:38:08 -0700, Tom Brennan wrote: >Since you mentioned X11 and DSFS maybe I don't understand the original >question. > A while ago: On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 23:32:55 +, Frank Swarbrick wrote: > How would vim execute in a TN3270 session? I have a useful script on my

Re: ISPF EDIT CHANGE regex requirements?

's the DSFS User's Guide? >On 4/11/2025 5:46 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >> On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 23:32:55 +, Frank Swarbrick wrote: >> >>> How would vim execute in a TN3270 session? >>> >> I've used REXX address SYSCALL under ISPF for other

Re: ISPF EDIT CHANGE regex requirements?

On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 23:32:55 +, Frank Swarbrick wrote: >How would vim execute in a TN3270 session? > I've used REXX address SYSCALL under ISPF for other things. >____ >From: Paul Gilmartin >Sent: Friday, April 11, 2025 2:28 PM >On Fri, 11

Re: ISPF EDIT CHANGE regex requirements?

On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 19:29:08 +, Farley, Peterrote: >One could enter an IBM “Idea” for that I suppose, but I do not think that the >underlying C library regex routines support those features, so it might be a >heavy ask. > Might sed- like numbered captures be a lighter ask? Or, empower ISPF

Re: Store-Clock-Fast Facility

On 4/11/25 12:20, Dan Greiner wrote: As to Charles' statement that "STCKF is potentially so much faster ...", well, that depends. STCK and STCKE are required to produce monitonically-advancing results. That is, they will never produce the same results in an MP environment, and the results wil

Re: Store-Clock-Fast Facility

On 4/11/25 11:38, Mario Bezzi wrote. @Charles: You make a good point about STCKE, but I was under the impression, confirmed by a quick check that as STCK, it also requires synchronization. ... Yes, but because of the finer granularity of the ETOE, the serialization is likely to take less

Re: hlasm object format

On 4/7/25 13:50, Peter Sylvester wrote: On 07/04/2025 18:36, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On 4/7/25 10:13, Peter Sylvester wrote: ... My question was badly written. i did not want to talk about the asm END statement, but about the END record/card in the object deck. well, one can use HEWLDIA and

Re: regular expressions in DFSORT

On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 17:06:27 +, Farley, Peter wrote: >... >IMHO no “programmer option” is needed – If you code a BRE as the RE then >that’s what you’ll execute, if you code an ERE then that is what you’ll >execute. ISTM that it's up to the underlying RE compiler to determine the >syntax

Re: regular expressions in DFSORT

On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 16:50:35 +, Sri Hari Kolusu wrote: > >We had this exact discussion here and a very lengthy discussion offline in >September 2022 > >https://www.mail-archive.com/ibm-main@listserv.ua.edu/msg122632.html > >Fyi.. we did implement some of your suggestions before I moved to a d

regular expressions in DFSORT

(I'm not a subscriber of DFSORT. I'll pst here and hope it percolates. I'll submit this as a Feedback) In: SC23-6878-60 DFSORT Application Programming Guide • Regular expression characters require code page (CCSID) IBM-1047. See

Re: hlasm object format

On 4/7/25 10:13, Peter Sylvester wrote: ... My question was badly written. i did not want to talk about the asm END statement, but about the END record/card in the object deck. well, one can use HEWLDIA and friends.   . In fact, I was modifying a FOSS compiler which generated an object file d

Re: Two questions about HLASM (was RE: Object Record size)

On 4/7/25 08:25, Jonathan Scott wrote: Peter, please change the thread subject when asking a different question. I've done so now. And although I'm often around now (being retired) any new question should be addressed to the list! . And here I  respond to only one question, not two. Should

Re: Object Record size

On 4/7/25 08:31, Charles Mills wrote: With regard to the first one, I don' think it will generate any ESDs unless you code EXTRN (or similar) for each of your whatevers. If you do so, then I think HLASM generates an ESD even in cases where a human could tell it was problematic coding. For exam

[tz] Re: Paraguay Timezone change

On 3/25/25 11:40, Brian Inglis via tz wrote: They have to provide substantial notice to IATA about time changes, and are fined millions if they make late changes, ... What entity imposes such a fine? -- gil

Re: REXX SURVEY

On Tue, 1 Apr 2025 18:35:35 +, Roger W Suhr wrote: >REXX370 V3.48 01 May 1992 as it comes with z/OS 2.5 >Please let me know if you have any questions, or concerns! > I recall reading in Cowlishaw (I no longer have a copy of TRL) that Rexx was developed concurrently in CMS and TSO. It rapidl

Re: xargs -0 irony (was: Expand DSN names)

On Sat, 29 Mar 2025 16:53:11 -0500, Jay Maynard \ wrote: >They left -0 out of xargs?! REALLY, IBM? Merciful $DEITY. That, coupled >with find -print0, solve a great big pile of issues and security holes. > There's an alternative for POSIX shells:

xargs -0 irony (was: Expand DSN names)

On Fri, 28 Mar 2025 11:05:05 -0400, Rick Troth wrote: >... >Consumer systems REGULARLY have blanks in filenames, which makes >scripted automation difficult. Other punctuation can also be troublesome. > In shell scripts this is facilitated vy: find ... -print0 | xargs -0 ... (all POSIX) And

Re: Expand DSN names (WAS : Java saved IBM Z?!)

On Fri, 28 Mar 2025 15:02:23 -0400, Rick Troth wrote: > >I have always taken robustness to mean, for example, always send >ASCII+CR+LF as a line of internet plain text, but *require* only >ASCII+LF. If the CR is present, fine. It's going to get stripped out >anyhow. (By whatever interpreter is cru

Re: Reentrant Lite ?

On Fri, 28 Mar 2025 13:23:51 -0400, Phil Smith III wrote: >Doesn't the ComeFrom instruction fix that? /s > >I guess the smart thing would be for that preallocated workarea to include a >size value, so the caller could test it and say "Yep, big enough" (or not). > I haven't followed this thread

Re: Expand DSN names (WAS : Java saved IBM Z?!)

On Fri, 28 Mar 2025 11:05:05 -0400, Rick Troth wrote: >EXCELLENT observation > >Postel's Law should be followed > >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robustness_principle > No. This leads to chaos. Developers are inclined to obey the "be liberal in what you accept" which leaves no platform on which t

Re: Java saved IBM Z?! (and filename space)

On Thu, 27 Mar 2025 13:22:26 -0400, Rick Troth wrote: >... >There is a group (no idea how large*) who have ported Unix** to several >8-bit processors. >Now, Unix on an old XT I do remember. That was a commercial product. But >imagine Unix on your TRS-80. (This is NOT a joke.) >The project is ca

Re: Java saved IBM Z?! (and filename space)

On Thu, 27 Mar 2025 12:45:14 -0400, Phil Smith III wrote: >Gil wrote, in part: >> Shame om IBM. They implemented vfork on CMS Opem, but >>fraudlently named it "fork". > >Yeah, when the did that, at the next SHARE I handed out Taco Bell sporks with >labels that said "VM OpenEdition fork". Even t

Re: Java saved IBM Z?! (and filename space)

On Thu, 27 Mar 2025 11:26:03 -0400, Rick Troth wrote: >[apologies ... this got long ... I count three topics] > >I was actually rather stunned at the time (circa 1995), /amazed/ that >MVS could have a Unix face. Wow! >And then they did it on VM too. (With understandable constraints because >CMS is

Re: Expand DSN names (WAS : Java saved IBM Z?!)

On Thu, 27 Mar 2025 06:28:44 -0500, Mike Schwab wrote: >z/OS Unix System Services imposes a 1024 name length limit. A few >directories exceed this and is corrected by CD brfore re-extracting the >affected files. > Is that path name or file name, which I believe is less. >On Thu, Mar 27, 2025 at

Re: Expand DSN names (WAS : Java saved IBM Z?!)

On Wed, 26 Mar 2025 21:25:01 +, Pew, Curtis G wrote: >... >Things that can already exploit zFS would have no trouble exploiting this. >Also, programs that use QSAM or BSAM can in many cases run just fine using >Unix files instead of MVS datasets. IBM should make that even easier, and >pr

Re: Expand DSN names (WAS : Java saved IBM Z?!)

On Wed, 26 Mar 2025 20:24:19 +, Pew, Curtis G wrote: > >But there is always z/OS 4.1 (kinda would match with OE, h). > > >Rather than this, I’d suggest I M implement a z/OS native filesystem that >lives on a raw FBA storage device. Path names already have the additional >length and char

Re: Expand DSN names (WAS : Java saved IBM Z?!)

On Wed, 26 Mar 2025 15:51:43 -0400, Steve Thompson wrote: >I agree that the 8 char node and 44 char limit on DSN names needs >to be expanded. That is going to hit VTOCs and CATALOGs and JCL, >and dynamic allocation > Are you one of those radicals who think that sooner or later you'll need more

Re: Plant 02

On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 13:21:56 -0400, Phil Smith III wrote: >... >02 - Poughkeepsie (Power) > . I had thought Plant O2 was a byproduct of photosynthesis. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instruction

Re: Please don't report IBM-MAIN as spam

On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 19:48:55 +, Rupert Reynolds wrote: > >A friend has looked into it and my suspicions are confirmed--when >IBM-MAIN mail goes missing, it happens when someone *else* reports their >IBM-MAIL messages as spam. > Human nature. It won't change entirely or even usefully, particul

Re: IBM-MAIN Digest - 18 Mar 2025 to 19 Mar 2025 (#2025-76)

Please don't submit messages with: "Subject: ... Digest ...". On Thu, 20 Mar 2025 10:27:51 -0400, billogden wrote: >>For compiler listings and actual assembler listings, and assembler inlines, >>and for interfacing with >>z/OS via its macro interfaces, PL/X has always had a huge advantage over >

Re: FTPS for IBM download

On Thu, 20 Mar 2025 12:52:57 +, Kurt Quackenbush wrote: >> There is a requirement that the client must be FTPS enabled to connect to >> IBM site. > >What are you tryingoto download, and which IBM server are you trying to >download from? > And is HTTPS or SFTP an alternative? -- gil --

Re: Links for ESS manuals

On Sun, 16 Mar 2025 02:06:38 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >Does anybody have links for Enterprise Storage Controller manuals that don't >require a subscription? How about newer DASD subsystems? I want to update some >dead links on wiki. > . GIYF? Any of these?:

Re: Mystified by FTP working for one user but not another

On Fri, 14 Mar 2025 14:27:33 +0200, Binyamin Dissen wrote: > >What happens when you issue the TSO OMVS command under that userid? > Wasn't that asked and answered in later plies n the thread? -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Command Line (was: Mystified by FTP ...)

On Wed, 12 Mar 2025 13:27:48 -0500, Charles Mills \ wrote: >Yeah, you're right. Change is good. I have had associates who used ssh >exclusively or almost exclusively, and it seemed to work for them. (The >problem of remote work -- didn't get to look over their shoulders.) > With which command

Re: Mystified by FTP working for one user but not another

On Wed, 12 Mar 2025 11:26:40 -0500, Charles Mills wrote: >... >But your post triggered a related thought: "can the new user access z/OS >legacy data sets with FTP?" So after dinner last night I went and checked. And >the answer is ... > FTP, certainly. It was there before OMVS. sftp? Proba

Re: Mystified by FTP working for one user but not another

On Tue, 11 Mar 2025 19:45:24 -0500, Charles Mills wrote: >On Wed, 12 Mar 2025 00:00:18 +, Farley, Peter > wrote: > >>SWAG: No OMVS section in the new userid definition while your userid has one? > >Good thought! Thanks. New user has an OMVS segment and can access z/OS UNIX >files via 3.17 an

Re: Using CSNBRNGL

On Tue, 11 Mar 2025 14:29:16 +, Billy Ashton wrote: >Hey all! It's been a while since I bothered y'all, and I hate to do this >again, but my manager wants me to do some research on using the Crypto >feature to generate "true" random numbers - CSNBRNGL. > Would /dev/random do that for you? <

Re: Open enterprise edition ISO

On Thu, 6 Mar 2025 16:27:08 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >"Why didn't you wondering why none of the non-ASCII platform support >optical drive and its media?" > >What is the 3995 Optical Library Dataserver, chopped liver? > Does it support mounting ISO images? On MacOS and Windows I can mount by

Re: Open enterprise edition ISO

On Thu, 6 Mar 2025 15:42:38 +0100, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: >>> >> FSVO "well known". It's about as well known as >> ASCII, and on a similar family of platforms. > >It is really worthless to discuss it. ISO format is supported by all >contemporary CD/DVD burner software and directly by MS Window

Re: Open enterprise edition ISO

On Wed, 5 Mar 2025 21:14:03 +0100, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: > >ISO is well known format of optical disk image. > FSVO "well known". It's about as well known as ASCII, and on a similar family of platforms. >How to copy the content to z/OS? As usual. > What is the "usual" tool to copy a hierarchy

Re: "Colossus"

On Wed, 5 Mar 2025 12:10:22 +0100, Martin Trübner wrote: > >the originating posting was on 12th of November 2024 > I didn't look far enough. When replying to a 4-month old message, it would be a courtesy to supply a useful citation. The emeritus Peter Relson was very skillful at trimming quoted

Re: ISP EDIT CHANGE regex capture?

On Wed, 5 Mar 2025 15:54:59 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: > ...? if so, what is the syntax? > No, but I'd suggest specifying string2 a a regex, R'string2'. Better, allow the user of ISPF on z/OO to choose a different editor, as is somewhat supported on ISPF for CMS, one which supports PCRE captu

Markdown (was: Open enterprise edition ISO)

On Wed, 5 Mar 2025 09:52:39 -0500, Phil Smith III wrote: >Giul asked: >>>Peter F: Why did you double-space the matter quoted in hour reply? >>It's distracting. (I cleaned it up.) > >Various email services, including Gmail, tend to show hard linebreaks as >double spaced. I have an Outlook macro

Re: ISP EDIT CHANGE regex capture?

On Wed, 5 Mar 2025 15:54:59 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >Does ISPF support referring to a regex capture? if so, what is the syntax? I'm >trying to locate all / LTR +R(\d{1,2}),R\1 / in Perl syntax. > (Not only Perl, but also sed, which is POSIX.) No. I once submitted a simpler RFE (like an Id

Re: Open enterprise edition ISO

Peter F: Why did you double-space the matter quoted in hour reply? It's distracting. (I cleaned it up.) On Wed, 5 Mar 2025 07:45:12 +, Farley, Peter wrote: >I would mount the iso as a “disk” on a Windows or as a sub-directory of “/mnt” >on a Linux workstation then FTP the contents inside

Re: "Colossus"

On Tue, 4 Mar 2025 23:03:09 -0600, Tim Hare wrote: >... >If you're asking for a citation about whether he read the book or not, I can't >provide one - it was just conjecture on my part. > No, I was looking for the antecedent of "he" in: On Mon, 3 Mar 2025 16:37:30 -0600, Tim Hare wrote:

[tz] Re: DST offsets other than +1

On 3/3/25 15:20, Tim Parenti via tz wrote: ... A quick visual scan of the penultimate column shows that all such SAVE values have an absolute value of either 0 or 1:00, apart from the Troll and LH rules as have been mentioned by others as the only exceptions. . Does Ireland observe standa

Re: "Colossus"

On Mon, 3 Mar 2025 16:37:30 -0600, Tim Hare wrote: >I'd bet he for _sure_ hasn't read the book! > Citation needed. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu

Re: BCTG Instruction

On 2/26/25 20:54, Robert Raicer wrote: An important correction to the information provided by Jon Perryman regarding how the branch address in the BRCT, BRCTG and BRCTH instructions is computed. The RI field is a signed binary integer value which represents the number of halfwords which is added

Re: OFF TOPIC - YAHOO MAIL SORT PROBLEM

On Wed, 26 Feb 2025 08:17:12 -0600, John S. Giltner, Jr. <...@GMAIL.COM> wrote: > >It sounds like you are using the "old Yahoo Mail" and not the new one. The 3 >dots are not there for the old Yahoo. Not sure how to sort by subject on the >old one. > >You may want to switch to the new one. >

Re: Question about _BPX_SHAREAS=YES.

On Tue, 25 Feb 2025 16:14:08 +, Colin Paice wrote: > >... *What is a "*set-user-ID >program" *... and how does spawn know! > It's like AC=1 for a load module. It's in the iI-node and stat() should show it. From the command line, "ls -l" and look at the mode bits, user and group or

Re: OFF TOPIC - YAHOO MAIL SORT PROBLEM

On Sun, 23 Feb 2025 22:32:22 +, willie bunter wrote: >  FIREFOX and EDGE and laptop.  No app. > Those are HTTP clients. An IMAP client such as Thunderbird or Outlook might be more suitable. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscrib

Re: OFF TOPIC - YAHOO MAIL SORT PROBLEM

On Sun, 23 Feb 2025 15:50:23 -0500, Anton Britz wrote: >... >a) Nothing to do with your Browser/Viewer > Depends. I just sent a message to my Yahoo account (first in years) and viewed it with an IMAP client, merging all my accounts, where View Settings control the column headings: From S

Re: OFF TOPIC - YAHOO MAIL SORT PROBLEM

On Sun, 23 Feb 2025 18:23:24 +, willie bunter wrote: > > Of late, I noticed that when Iogon to my Yahoo e-mail account the SORT >drop down menu no longer has the SUBJECT option.  It has the sort option for >Newest to Oldest, Oldest to Newest and Sender Name but no option to to sort by >

Re: Enqueue Question

On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 15:31:44 +, Ituriel do Neto wrote: >Perhaps the parameter DSENQSHR=ALLOW in JOBCLASS (JES2PARM) is helpful. > Ouch! Wouldn't hat undermine data integrity for every user of that JOBCLASS? Could the OP use dynamic allocation rather than static in step 2? (And beware race c

Re: Enqueue Question

On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 07:50:33 -0600, Scott Ballentine wrote: >>I have a two step job. Step 1 attempts to perform a dynamic allocation of a >>dataset. It's failing since step 2 allocates the dataset DISP=SHR, >and the >>enqueue is already created before the dynamic allocation is attempted. > >This

Re: Enqueue Question

On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 12:17:48 +, Mark Jacobs wrote: >One of the things I'm going to test is whether setting S99NORES in S99FLAG2 >might work. If so all we need to do is convince the software vendor to support >setting it on a job-by-job basis. >

Re: Enqueue Question

On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 23:28:24 +, Mark Jacobs wrote: >True, but not in the test case I used to verify that the problem exists in the >simplest way I could think of. > >Step 1. A user written program that issues the wait SVC without the ECB ever >being posted. >Step 2. PGM=IEFBR14 with a datase

Re: Enqueue Question

a problem has occurred and been discussed here before. >On Tuesday, February 18th, 2025 at 2:17 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >> >> Are you using multiple address spaces? (What program?) >> SDSF might tell you. -- gil --

Re: Enqueue Question

On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 19:07:42 +, Mark Jacobs wrote: >DSENQSHR on the job card. Tried that too. Didn't work. > Are you using multiple address spaces? (What program?) SDSF might tell you. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / s

Re: Enqueue Question

On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 18:54:21 +, Allan Staller wrote: >Classification: Confidential > >There was an option added in one of the recent z/OS releases to "downgrade the >enque" >e.g. step1 "creates" the dataset with an exclusive enque. Once the need for >exclusive control has been satisfied, the

Re: Enqueue Question

On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 12:41:11 -0600, Charles Mills wrote: >I am surprised that would fail but I don't know SVC 99 well enough to say "no, >that's wrong." > The initiator performs the ENQ before the first job step and keeps it in effect through the last step that references the data set name. >See

Re: locating DCB for TIOT entry

On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 20:24:02 -0500, Joseph Reichman wrote: > >I know there is a way when you scan the TIOT and find a DDNAME entry how to >associate it with a DCB > I believe OPEN does that; you supply the DCB and its address. I have productively used multiple open DCBs for a single DDNAME. Woul

Re: Simple REXX Sample to Interface with Dell / EMC DLM Virtual Tape?

On Tue, 11 Feb 2025 16:11:58 -0600, Steve Estle wrote: > >Does anyone have some straight forward sample ZOS REXX code they have and / or >have written to interface with Dell / EMC DLM Virtual Tape Library from ZOS? >We have DLM 2100 but eventually are migrating to DLM 2500 model. Specifically

Re: Idea received: Provide a negative exclude command for EDIT and VIEW

On Sat, 8 Feb 2025 04:54:24 -0600, Jay Maynard wrote: >And I'm just the other way around: I wish IBM would make ISPF a first-class >citizen for VM. XEDIT is just different enough from ISPF edit that it >drives me nuts. Come on, guys, PF3 should do FILE, not QUIT... > Is that collateral damage fro

Re: ISPF SUBMIT ASCII?

On Fri, 7 Feb 2025 13:43:29 +0100, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: > >Yes, one can put anything in DD * embedded files. > >However I have seen enough jobs to bet that any_EBCDIC<->any_ASCII >translation would be OK. > How might a job containing this fragment appear in SDSF? //* I'm envisioning, challengin

Re: How to identify caller of subroutine in REXX

On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 08:33:10 +0100, Mike Beer wrote: >Which REXX on what operating system do you use? > Regina, for example, has traceback(). That would be a good Idea for enhancement to TSO REXX. But even that just writes to stderr, although that could be redirected to a file by shell and read w

Re: Execute ASMA90 with tsocmd fails

On Wed, 5 Feb 2025 21:54:55 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >I'd have to check the ISHELL panels to be sure, but I would expect it to work. > ??? Using ISHELL panels to drive a shell script to somehow call back to ISPF services to perform an assembly.

Re: Execute ASMA90 with tsocmd fails

On Wed, 5 Feb 2025 21:38:51 +, Pew, Curtis G wrote: >Probably? I haven’t had the need to start a new project of this type since >DFSF was introduced. > > I'm trying to envision make's suffix rules operating properly. >On Feb 5, 2025, at 3:34 PM, Paul Gilmartin

Re: Execute ASMA90 with tsocmd fails

On Wed, 5 Feb 2025 21:21:27 +, Pew, Curtis G wrote: >If the “chore” is assembling code from the Unix shell, then TSO is not very >useful. ... With the bonus that with everything in zFS files it’s trivial to use `git` for version control. > Would that work alike with DSFS? Where's the DSFS U

Re: Execute ASMA90 with tsocmd fails

On Wed, 5 Feb 2025 21:07:23 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >I can't remember the last time I had TSO without ISPF. With ISPF it's bog >simple. > Does that work from OMVS, which appears to be the OP's requirement? >>> On Wed, 5 Feb 2025 16:01:11 + David Frenzel wrote: >>> :> >>> :>I am trying

Re: Execute ASMA90 with tsocmd fails

On Wed, 5 Feb 2025 15:00:42 -0500, Gord Tomlin wrote: >Why not use the z/OS UNIX "as" command? > >It's described in the z/OS UNIX System Services Command Reference. > That's ... or write a Rex

Re: Copy of MVS

On Wed, 5 Feb 2025 12:17:12 -0600, Grace Godfrey wrote: >I remember long ago there was a copy of MVS that could be run locally. >Does anyone recall the name, or what happened to it? > . 3.8? On Hercules? >Was it part of the acdc suite? > >Am in trouble for mentioning it? Don't shoot me p

Re: Idea received: Provide a negative exclude command for EDIT and VIEW

On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 22:08:32 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >FSVO 2. But only two that I'm likely to use. > . Idea: ISPF Edit should honor the VISUAL environment variable and, if set, invoke the editor it names. (Does ISPF

Re: Idea received: Provide a negative exclude command for EDIT and VIEW

On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 18:46:28 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >As a general rule, when I'm using ISPF I miss things in XEDIT and when I'm >using XEDIT I miss things in ISPF. I also miss things in SuperWylbur. > ISPF on CMS provided a choice of two editors (I needn't name them.) But two is not a "nic

Re: Idea received: Provide a negative exclude command for EDIT and VIEW

On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 17:27:10 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: > >From: I M Z Hardware Ideas Portal >Sent: Tuesday, February 4, 2025 12:24 PM > >Provide e an NEXCLU E command similar to FIND and EXCLUDE that excludes all >lines in the specified range that do not

ISPF SUBMIT ASCII?

(Cross-posting to IBM-MAIN and ISPF-L) In: If the file being edited is described as ASCII or UTF-8 then the data submitted to the internal reader is converted to EBCDIC. Which EBCDIC code page? D

Re: Dynamic information text retrieval info for dataset dcb

On Mon, 3 Feb 2025 16:54:15 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >For an allocated dataset you may need RDJFCB and OBTAIN. If it's not allocated >then just OBTAIN. > Does hat work for instream data sets? Facing that question once, I OPENed the file and inspected the DCB. It's probably documented somew

Re: Is the STIMERM ID= guaranteed to be unique within the task?

On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 18:14:43 +, James Mulder wrote: > Other than 4G wrap, STIMERM ID= is unique within the z/OS image. > This implies that from any starting point the sequence of IDs returned by STIMERM is strictly periodic with a period or 4G Should this guarantee be documented in:

Re: CBTView ISPF Dialog - quick survey/question

On Sun, 26 Jan 2025 14:59:43 -0600, Lionel B Dyck wrote: >CBTview does not cache any information so while etag may be good it >isn't something i can use at this time. > Do you not cache those file dates? >> >> On Sun, 26 Jan 2025 14:30:02 -0600, Lionel B Dyck wrote: >> >> >wget could work for t

Re: make --url support a file with URLs

On 1/27/25 05:54, Daniel Stenberg via curl-users wrote: Hey, Over the years, people have requested an easier way to provide a list of URLs to curl and have it download them all. With my new PR [*], you can write "curl --url @file" and curl will download all the URLs in the provided file as if

Re: Is the STIMERM ID= guaranteed to be unique within the task?

On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 13:43:40 +0200, Binyamin Dissen wrote: >Assuming less than 4G issuances. > When would it matter? Are you adding different tiny increments to various comparator values and depending on the order of completion? Is the comparator sensitive to the ID value? -- gil --

Re: CBTView ISPF Dialog - quick survey/question

On Sun, 26 Jan 2025 14:30:02 -0600, Lionel B Dyck wrote: >wget could work for the files but i need to use curl to get the file >date as wget can't and for getting files there isn't much difference >so i'm sticking with curl for consistency. > In

Re: OMVS

On Sun, 26 Jan 2025 18:12:01 +0100, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: >... >> How does Kern shell compare with Bourne shell and POSIX shell? >> >> A quick Google search for "Kern shell" returns mostly pages about >> psychology or thermal engineering. > >Obvious typo. Was it funny? > More than I care to

Re: OMVS

On Sun, 26 Jan 2025 18:01:50 +1100, Attila Fogarasi wrote: >OpenEdition was introduced in MVS 4.3 in 1994 but was an almost unusable >subset, it only had POSIX support, Kern shell and dbx debugger. ... > How does Kern shell compare with Bourne shell and POSIX shell? A quick Google search for "K

Re: Rexx invoking bpxwunix

On Sat, 25 Jan 2025 19:45:48 GMT, esst...@juno.com wrote: >Hello LionelI issued call bpxwunix 'cd /test/app/cics/java/work_dir/ && >ls-la',,out. >. >ANd I received the same results; where the data returned is my Home Directory >and NOT the directory >i requested. >. /* REXX Add some instrumentat

Re: Rexx invoking bpxwunix

On Sat, 25 Jan 2025 20:13:16 +, Farley, Peter wrote: >Lionel, > >Doesn’t the STDOUT parameter to BPXWUNIX need to be a string that contains the >stem value and not the stem itself? I.E.: > > >call bpxwunix 'cd /etc/ && ls -al',,’list.’ > >Note the quotes around the stem value. > The quotes

Re: Rexx invoking bpxwunix

On Sat, 25 Jan 2025 19:45:48 GMT, esst...@juno.com wrote: >Hello LionelI issued call bpxwunix 'cd /test/app/cics/java/work_dir/ && >ls-la',,out. >. >ANd I received the same results; where the data returned is my Home Directory >and NOT the directory >i requested. >. That's puzzling. You appear

Re: Rexx invoking bpxwunix

On Sat, 25 Jan 2025 10:37:46 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > >BTW, 'out.' is a REXX string passed to BPXWUNIX, and >most safely quoted. > I've submitted a "thumbs Down" feedback on <https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/3.1.0?topic=functions-bpxwunix> several

Re: Rexx invoking bpxwunix

On Sat, 25 Jan 2025 15:34:23 GMT, essteam wrote: >call to bpxwunix to honor the directory I want to point to ? . -/* REXX */Say >'REX2 Entered' >call bpxwunix 'cd /test/app/cics/java/work_dir/',,out. >call bpxwunix 'ls -la',,out. > As LBD hinted, each call to pxwunix opens a fresh execution e

Re: CBTView ISPF Dialog - quick survey/question

On Fri, 24 Jan 2025 05:56:58 -0600, Lionel B Dyck wrote: >... >curl is also part of the optional, and free, IBM Open Enterprise >Foundation (aka OEF) and thus installable via ShopZ and SMP/E. > Flight of fancy: ShopZ delivery of cbttape.org content. Is ShopZ considered the z/OS package mana

Re: CBTView ISPF Dialog - quick survey/question

On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 21:50:13 +, Farley, Peter wrote: >Re: “I can't imagine such space being a problem nowadays”: You would be >surprised. Installations with long-neglected z/OS Unix environments can be >extraordinarily parsimonious about personal Unix file space allotments (if >they even e

Re: CBTView ISPF Dialog - quick survey/question

On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 21:15:01 +, Farley, Peter wrote: >... “ftp” I believe that is just a directory name and not the transport >mechanism. E.G.: > >https://www.cbttape.org/ftp/cbt/CBT001.zip > It also remains available via anonymous FTP. >... AFAIK “curl” is only OPTIONALLY available in z/O

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