Re: DIS: Proto: Complete Economic Overhaul

2017-10-30 Thread VJ Rada
Yep, it was Contracts v8. The community chest has ceased to be a legal owner of shinies since 22 October. How self-ratification effects that, I don't know. On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 5:28 PM, VJ Rada wrote: > (I change my nickname to Reward Conditions) /s > > Yeah, o, working on finding out if Contr

Re: DIS: Proto: Complete Economic Overhaul

2017-10-30 Thread VJ Rada
(I change my nickname to Reward Conditions) /s Yeah, o, working on finding out if Contracts actually did remove institutions (or if it's a ruleset error). On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 5:25 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: > On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 6:29 PM, Nic Evans wrote: >> >>Below is an exhaustive li

Re: DIS: Proto: Complete Economic Overhaul

2017-10-30 Thread Aris Merchant
On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 6:29 PM, Nic Evans wrote: > >Below is an exhaustive list of Reward Conditions and eir rewards: Please change this to their. This bugs me an insane amount. -Aris

Re: DIS: Proto: Complete Economic Overhaul

2017-10-30 Thread Owen Jacobson
On Oct 31, 2017, at 2:15 AM, VJ Rada wrote: > Actually, rather embarrasingly, the word Institution only appears once > in the latest HLR. "Contracts" in adding contracts as a valid owner, > must have subtracted institutions. Therefore, the Chest has no > shinies. From rule 2166 "Unless modified b

Re: DIS: Proto: Complete Economic Overhaul

2017-10-30 Thread VJ Rada
Actually, rather embarrasingly, the word Institution only appears once in the latest HLR. "Contracts" in adding contracts as a valid owner, must have subtracted institutions. Therefore, the Chest has no shinies. From rule 2166 "Unless modified by an asset's backing document, ownership of an asset i

Re: DIS: Proto: Complete Economic Overhaul

2017-10-30 Thread Owen Jacobson
Repealing the rule that defines a thing’s existence has not always, and reliably, caused that thing to cease to exist. Case study: all the concerns over outstanding contracts from prior iterations potentially springing back into life. I _strongly_ suspect that repealing the rules defining the C

Re: DIS: Proto: Complete Economic Overhaul

2017-10-30 Thread VJ Rada
It would. Valid owners of assets are players, Agora and Institutions, of which one is the Chest. Destroying the Chest would cause it to no longer be an institution, the money would transfer to Agora by default, and under the new rules it would be destroyed. On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 5:06 PM, Owen Ja

Re: DIS: Proto: Complete Economic Overhaul

2017-10-30 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On Oct 25, 2017, at 9:29 PM, Nic Evans wrote: > > In the interest of collaborating with everyone else that is working on > econ-related proposals, I'm posting the drafts of my Econ Overhaul as > they get written. Here's the first one. Would love any feedback. > > # Shinies > > Amend 2483 'Ec

Re: DIS: Proto: Complete Economic Overhaul

2017-10-26 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
While you're at it, could you rename Economics as Shinies? On 10/25/2017 09:29 PM, Nic Evans wrote: > In the interest of collaborating with everyone else that is working on > econ-related proposals, I'm posting the drafts of my Econ Overhaul as > they get written. Here's the first one. Would love

Re: DIS: Proto: Complete Economic Overhaul

2017-10-25 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2017-10-25 at 20:29 -0500, Nic Evans wrote: > Amend 2516 to read, in full: > >As part of eir monthly duties, the Secretary SHALL, for every player, >create in eir possession 50 shinies. > >As part of eir weekly duties, the Secretary SHALL, for every player >that registered

Re: DIS: Proto: Complete Economic Overhaul

2017-10-25 Thread Nic Evans
On 10/25/17 22:16, Alexis Hunt wrote: > On Wed, 25 Oct 2017 at 23:15 Nic Evans > wrote: > > The intended specialization is in the not-yet-included Estates > sections. Each player could have only one estate, and each estate > would produce either Pend Tickets

Re: DIS: Proto: Complete Economic Overhaul

2017-10-25 Thread Alexis Hunt
On Wed, 25 Oct 2017 at 23:15 Nic Evans wrote: > The intended specialization is in the not-yet-included Estates sections. > Each player could have only one estate, and each estate would produce > either Pend Tickets or CFJ Tickets (probably with nicer names). Paying for > everything in shinies is

Re: DIS: Proto: Complete Economic Overhaul

2017-10-25 Thread Nic Evans
On 10/25/17 21:50, Alexis Hunt wrote: > > Amend 2445 'How to Pend a Proposal' by replacing the paragraphs > starting with 'a)' and 'b)' with: > >    a) by spending 1 Pending Ticket, OR > > How does one get a Pend Ticket?  > >    b) by paying eir Action Cost in shinies. Eir Action

Re: DIS: Proto: Complete Economic Overhaul

2017-10-25 Thread Alexis Hunt
On Wed, 25 Oct 2017 at 21:30 Nic Evans wrote: >If Agora would own shinies, they are instead destroyed. > Restrict ownership to not include Agora? General note: s/Secretary/Treasuror/ Amend 2496 'Rewards' to read, in full: > >A Reward is a specified amount of shinies associated with a Re

DIS: Proto: Complete Economic Overhaul

2017-10-25 Thread Nic Evans
In the interest of collaborating with everyone else that is working on econ-related proposals, I'm posting the drafts of my Econ Overhaul as they get written. Here's the first one. Would love any feedback. # Shinies Amend 2483 'Economics' to read, in full:    Shinies (singular "shiny", abbreviat