On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 3:33 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
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> On 5/21/2020 2:28 PM, nch via agora-discussion wrote:
> > On Thursday, May 21, 2020 4:13:43 PM CDT Kerim Aydin wrote:
> >> Also, you've got a bunch of zombie protections, but one thing that's not
> >> obvious is that having
On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 3:16 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
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> On 5/21/2020 1:08 PM, nch via agora-business wrote:
> > Once a week the Treasuror CAN and SHOULD initiate an auction. The
> > auction has the following lots:
>
> This means the Treasuror will frequently have mult
On 5/21/2020 6:45 PM, Aris Merchant wrote:
> On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 6:11 PM Kerim Aydin wrote:
>> On 5/21/2020 5:57 PM, Aris Merchant wrote:
>>> On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 5:45 PM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote:
WILL: The person CAN by announcement, and SHALL in a timely fashion, act as
On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 6:11 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
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> On 5/21/2020 5:57 PM, Aris Merchant wrote:
> > On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 5:45 PM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote:
> >> WILL: The person CAN by announcement, and SHALL in a timely fashion, act as
> >> described.
> >>
On 5/21/2020 5:57 PM, Aris Merchant wrote:
> On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 5:45 PM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote:
>> WILL: The person CAN by announcement, and SHALL in a timely fashion, act as
>> described.
>>
>> OR
>>
>> WILL: The person CAN and SHALL act as described.
>>
>> OR EVEN
>>
>> WILL
On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 5:45 PM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via
agora-business wrote:
> WILL: The person CAN by announcement, and SHALL in a timely fashion, act as
> described.
>
> OR
>
> WILL: The person CAN and SHALL act as described.
>
> OR EVEN
>
> WILL: The person CAN and SHALL so act.
I
On 5/21/20 8:31 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote:
> lol, I post the below indicated rules text in response, so someone else to
> win has to go lower than the original.
Nefarious plan: nobody else make a submission so that G. SHALL perform
the IMPOSSIBLE action of transfering coins to emse
On 5/21/2020 5:10 PM, grok via agora-discussion wrote:
> I'm not 100% convinced that having a hybrid keyword is necessary when two
> non-hybrid keywords effectively explain it and it only comes up in the
> rules once, but I think it makes enough sense if WILL gets further use in
> the rules later
On 5/21/2020 4:55 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote:
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> I like the idea of having something fill this role, but I’m not sure that
> WILL is an intuitive option. Why did you choose WILL?
>
Open to any options, the shorter the better. Usage justification: if you
say to someone you emp
On Thu, May 21, 2020, 6:56 PM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via
agora-discussion wrote:
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> > On May 21, 2020, at 19:28, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion <
> agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Proto: Agora Willing
> >
> > Amend Rule 215 (Mother, May I?) by appending:
> >
> On May 21, 2020, at 19:28, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
> wrote:
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>
> Proto: Agora Willing
>
> Amend Rule 215 (Mother, May I?) by appending:
> 9. WILL: The person CAN perform the described action by
> announcement once after the specified conditions occur, and
>
Proto: Agora Willing
Amend Rule 215 (Mother, May I?) by appending:
9. WILL: The person CAN perform the described action by
announcement once after the specified conditions occur, and
SHALL do so in a timely fashion after the specified conditions
occur.
[Sample
Ok I've been through this a few times - specifically mentioning technical
flaws only (not game-balance)...
On 5/21/2020 1:08 PM, nch via agora-business wrote:
> Cards are a type of asset with a corresponding Product. Products are
> also assets. The types of Cards and their correspond
On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 2:51 PM nch via agora-business <
agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On Thursday, May 21, 2020 4:33:12 PM CDT Aris Merchant via
> agora-discussion
> wrote:
> > On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 2:24 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
> >
> > wrote:
> > > On 5/21/2020 1:08 PM, n
On 5/21/2020 2:42 PM, nch via agora-discussion wrote:
> On Thursday, May 21, 2020 4:23:25 PM CDT Kerim Aydin wrote:
>> On 5/21/2020 1:08 PM, nch via agora-business wrote:
>>> The Treasuror is the auctioneer for this auction, and may order the
>>> lots
>>> as e chooses. The minim
On Thursday, May 21, 2020 4:23:25 PM CDT Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
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> On 5/21/2020 1:08 PM, nch via agora-business wrote:
> > The Treasuror is the auctioneer for this auction, and may order the
> > lots
> > as e chooses. The minimum bid for this auction is 1 coin.
>
On 5/21/2020 2:28 PM, nch via agora-discussion wrote:
> On Thursday, May 21, 2020 4:13:43 PM CDT Kerim Aydin wrote:
>> On 5/21/2020 1:08 PM, nch via agora-business wrote:
>>> Once a week the Treasuror CAN and SHOULD initiate an auction. The
>>
>>> auction has the following lots:
>> Th
On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 2:24 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
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> On 5/21/2020 1:08 PM, nch via agora-business wrote:
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> > The Treasuror is the auctioneer for this auction, and may order the
> > lots
> > as e chooses. The minimum bid for this auction is 1 coin.
>
> I'm
On 5/21/2020 2:21 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote:
> On 5/21/20 5:18 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote:
>> Not the sort of danger I prefer, it just leads to messes.
>>
>> Especially because, the way I'm reading it, the lots must include a single
>> type of asset if at least one
On Thursday, May 21, 2020 4:13:43 PM CDT Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
wrote:
> On 5/21/2020 1:08 PM, nch via agora-business wrote:
> > Once a week the Treasuror CAN and SHOULD initiate an auction. The
>
> > auction has the following lots:
> This means the Treasuror will frequently
On 5/21/2020 1:08 PM, nch via agora-business wrote:
> The Treasuror is the auctioneer for this auction, and may order the lots
> as e chooses. The minimum bid for this auction is 1 coin.
I'm afraid this part *is* broken though. I'm sure Trigon isn't cool with
being the auctioneer
On 5/21/20 5:18 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote:
> Not the sort of danger I prefer, it just leads to messes.
>
> Especially because, the way I'm reading it, the lots must include a single
> type of asset if at least one exists.
>
> Right now we have changed the assets rule so that anythi
On 5/21/2020 2:12 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote:
> On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 2:02 PM Kerim Aydin wrote:
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>> On 5/21/2020 1:08 PM, nch via agora-business wrote:
>>> * all of any single type of asset currently own by the Lost and Found
>>> Department, if any.
>>
>> I
On Thursday, May 21, 2020 4:01:12 PM CDT Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
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> On 5/21/2020 1:08 PM, nch via agora-business wrote:
> > * all of any single type of asset currently own by the Lost and
> > Found
> >
> > Department, if any.
>
> I'm concerned about allow
On 5/21/2020 1:08 PM, nch via agora-business wrote:
> Once a week the Treasuror CAN and SHOULD initiate an auction. The
> auction has the following lots:
This means the Treasuror will frequently have multiple auctions running at
once - Trigon have you weighed in on that pacing?
Als
On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 2:02 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
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> On 5/21/2020 1:08 PM, nch via agora-business wrote:
> > * all of any single type of asset currently own by the Lost and Found
> > Department, if any.
>
> I'm concerned about allowing the hijacking and aucti
On 5/21/2020 1:08 PM, nch via agora-business wrote:
> * all of any single type of asset currently own by the Lost and Found
> Department, if any.
I'm concerned about allowing the hijacking and auction of literally any
asset (including contract assets or whatever) that end up in the
On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 12:23 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
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> On 5/21/2020 8:59 AM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote:
> > On 5/21/20 6:59 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> For this
> >> decision, the vote collector
On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 12:00 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
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> On 5/20/2020 2:49 PM, James Cook via agora-business wrote:
> > On Wed, 20 May 2020 at 01:31, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote:
> >>> On May 19, 2020, at 21:27, nch wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 8:07:27 PM
On Thursday, May 21, 2020 11:41:02 AM CDT Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
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> On 5/21/2020 9:32 AM, nch via agora-discussion wrote:
> > Sometimes I think it'd be interesting if we more often did gamestate
> > changing proposals with little to no rule changes in them. For instance
> > we coul
On 5/21/2020 9:32 AM, nch via agora-discussion wrote:
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> Sometimes I think it'd be interesting if we more often did gamestate
> changing proposals with little to no rule changes in them. For instance
> we could do things like:
>
> "Destroy all coins in every players possession. For each player, e
On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 9:33 AM nch via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On Thursday, May 21, 2020 11:20:21 AM CDT Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
> wrote:
> > Also realize, if you're going the Decision route, there's nothing
> > currently stopping punishment proposals
On Thursday, May 21, 2020 11:20:21 AM CDT Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
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> Also realize, if you're going the Decision route, there's nothing
> currently stopping punishment proposals, and even if this rule is
> implemented there's nothing stopping someone from changing the AI
> threshold
On 5/21/2020 8:59 AM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote:
> On 5/21/20 6:59 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
> wrote:
>>
>> For this
>> decision, the vote collector is the Judge, the options are GUILTY,
>> NOT GUILTY, REJECT, and PRESENT, and the
On 5/21/20 6:59 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
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> Title: High Crimes and Treason
> AI: 1.7
> Author: P.S.S.
> Coauthors: Aris, Jason
>
> Create a new rule, "High Crimes", with the following text:
>
> A high crime is any crime specified as being class 4
On 5/20/2020 2:49 PM, James Cook via agora-business wrote:
> On Wed, 20 May 2020 at 01:31, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote:
>>> On May 19, 2020, at 21:27, nch wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 8:07:27 PM CDT Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
>>> wrote:
I vote REMAND.
>>>
>>> Why
On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 6:59 AM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
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> Title: High Crimes and Treason
> AI: 1.7
> Author: P.S.S.
> Coauthors: Aris, Jason
>
> Create a new rule, "High Crimes", with the following text:
>
> A high crime is any crime specified as being class 4 or gr
On Thursday, May 21, 2020 10:19:27 AM CDT you wrote:
> Surely I can just say "CAN pay X to Y"? 2579 defines 'pay' so I think it
> triggers it sufficiently clearly (and the usage is intuitive anyway).
Clarification here: 2579 doesn't define 'pay' but it talks about payment. The
only fee-based acti
I'm going to resubmit and fix most of the things you mentioned, but as argued
below I don't overall agree that "by announcement" would break the clauses.
On Wednesday, May 20, 2020 11:51:47 PM CDT Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
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> On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 7:05 PM nch via agora-business
Title: High Crimes and Treason
AI: 1.7
Author: P.S.S.
Coauthors: Aris, Jason
Create a new rule, "High Crimes", with the following text:
A high crime is any crime specified as being class 4 or greater.
The Referee CANNOT levy the Cold Hand of Justice to punish a high
crime,
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