I already did so for everyone.
Gaelan
> On Feb 26, 2018, at 11:36 PM, Ned Strange wrote:
>
> Wonderful post, thanks Murphy.
>
> I claim a welcome package.
>
>> On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 4:26 PM, Edward Murphy wrote:
>> Agora economic FAQ (updated 2018-02-26)
>>
>> This is an informal summar
>Does the arena reset every game? If not, should it?
Nope. The Arena versatility is mostly there so that possible
errors/impasses in the subgame can be solved more easily just in case, and
if we want to add variants like "you can't vote AGAINST twice in a row", or
adding "there is a voting order,
Agora economic FAQ (updated 2018-02-26)
This is an informal summary of the board-game-esque areas of
gameplay (as opposed to proposals/offices/CFJs), and is not
guaranteed to cover nuances or otherwise be fully accurate.
Types of assets:
* Coins and such.
Unrefinable currencies: stones, appl
On Mon, 26 Feb 2018, Reuben Staley wrote:
According to the land auction rule, no. Maybe I should've said that Agora
is the auctioneer, but I didn't know that when I wrote the proposal.
This may make the whole Auction fail. Rule 2549 says:
An Auct
Did we ever decide what happens with payments for failed actions? My vague
recollection was that “I spend one coin TO do x” refunds when X is ineffective,
but “I spend one coin AND do x” doesn’t. Is this correct?
Either way, proto: {
Create a P3.1 rule titled Spending: {
When the rules specify t
Sounds good, thanks.
On Feb 26, 2018 6:21 PM, "Reuben Staley" wrote:
> I think a cfj is frivolous in this case. Just write a fix proposal, or tell
> a player to submit one such proposal as you yourself cannot.
>
> El 26 feb. 2018 19:00, "Kenyon Prater" escribió:
>
> > I wasn't sure if it was ap
I think a cfj is frivolous in this case. Just write a fix proposal, or tell
a player to submit one such proposal as you yourself cannot.
El 26 feb. 2018 19:00, "Kenyon Prater" escribió:
> I wasn't sure if it was appropriate to CFJ this or if this was a matter I
> could just ask the public about.
I wasn't sure if it was appropriate to CFJ this or if this was a matter I
could just ask the public about. In the future for something like this,
should I just ask?
Kenyon
-- Forwarded message --
From: Kenyon Prater
Date: Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 5:54 PM
Subject: Facilities owned by
Fine for me. I do have a filter specifically excepting messages on the
Agoran mailing lists from going to spam, though.
On 2/26/2018 2:17 PM, Corona wrote:
Ok, this is weird. My own messages also go to my spam folder, which is why I
thought they weren't getting sent. Could everyone also please
Not really, actually. This message was sent in the afternoon for me, and
Trigon's original message was in late morning. I live in the Eastern
Standard Time timezone though, so I can't speak for all Americans. :P
(I'm also not registered so I couldn't do any of that anyway)
On 2/26/2018 1:46 PM
On 2/26/2018 1:09 PM, Cuddle Beam wrote:
[snip]
Players can have Nomicbots, which are assets with Instructions and a Name
and a Banner. A Nomicbot's Instructions is a text document with
instructions about its behavior. A Nomicbot's Instructions is blank by
default. A Nomicbot's name is a string,
I mean I could do a job of it that doesn't suck as much as the job I
did on some other roles ;). If you want it I'm happy to cede it but
yeah. Or we could repeal it, I think there was discussion of 'we'll
give it one more try and then repeal', and I feel like now would be a
good time.
On Tue, Feb
I like this quite a bit. I think that this indeed has a lot of potential to
be fun.
For the expanding price, you could model it off of how I described
increasing upkeep costs and production in PAoaM.
So add a level switch to each bot and say something like
"A player can destroy 4n corn and 4n st
Do you actually want to do it? I'm slacking on it and more than happy
for anyone of equal slackness (or less slackness) to hold it.
On Tue, 27 Feb 2018, Ned Strange wrote:
> The only reason I nominated for Reportor is because it was listed as
> nobody standing for it.
>
> On Tue, Feb 27, 2018
The only reason I nominated for Reportor is because it was listed as
nobody standing for it.
On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 5:04 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>
>
>
> On Mon, 26 Feb 2018, Ned Strange wrote:
>> With two support, I intend to inititate an election for Notary. I
>> nominate myself for reportor.
>
Comments inline
Gaelan
> On Feb 26, 2018, at 10:09 AM, Cuddle Beam wrote:
>
> Haha, I love that. Screwing with other's Nomicbots.
>
> Also "Duel" is a horrible term for it lol, "Match" or "Battle" something
> would be better : P
>
> Anyways, with your input into my derpy draft, here is a mo
something something scam about sending stuff to everyone's spam folder.
Also, yes, I get all of your messages fine.
On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 8:17 PM, Corona wrote:
> Ok, this is weird. My own messages also go to my spam folder, which is why
> I thought they weren't getting sent. Could everyone a
Ok, this is weird. My own messages also go to my spam folder, which is why I
thought they weren't getting sent. Could everyone also please make sure that my
emails don't go to their spam?
~Corona
That looks really good. For the quadratic, maybe something like: (I'm sure
the language on these would need fixing first)
"A Nomicbot's capacity is a positive integer switch defaulting to 1. A
Player CAN, by announcement, destroy (X+1) ore, where X is the value of an
owned Nomicbot's capacity, to
I did get it. It went to my spam folder though. Ugh, you're right.
El 26 feb. 2018 12:06, "Corona" escribió:
> No worries, I was just trying to become the autocrat of Arcadia, like all
> of us, but thanks.
>
> By the way, have you received my CoE on your report? It's telling me it's
> been sent,
Ehh? That wasn't sent either? Is this thing working at all?
On 19:05, Feb 26, 2018, at 19:05, Corona wrote:
>No worries, I was just trying to become the autocrat of Arcadia, like
>all of us, but thanks.
>
>By the way, have you received my CoE on your report? It's telling me
>it's been sent, but
No worries, I was just trying to become the autocrat of Arcadia, like all of
us, but thanks.
By the way, have you received my CoE on your report? It's telling me it's been
sent, but I haven't received it back.
On 19:02, Feb 26, 2018, at 19:02, Reuben Staley wrote:
>Because I feel bad for em,
It's at the archives too. I'm seconds before.
On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 7:58 PM, Reuben Staley
wrote:
> I got CB's message literally seconds before I got yours.
>
> El 26 feb. 2018 11:57, "Corona" escribió:
>
> Right. But I honestly didn't receive that message where you moved. When did
> you sen
I got CB's message literally seconds before I got yours.
El 26 feb. 2018 11:57, "Corona" escribió:
Right. But I honestly didn't receive that message where you moved. When did
you send it?
On 18:52, Feb 26, 2018, at 18:52, Cuddle Beam wrote:
>And that "ALL" is zero.
>
>On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at
Oh sorry, now I see it.
On 18:52, Feb 26, 2018, at 18:52, Cuddle Beam wrote:
>And that "ALL" is zero.
>
>On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 7:50 PM, Corona
>wrote:
>
>> (To clarify) I pick up ALL the stones and ore from the mine on
>(-1,+1).
>>
>> On 18:46, Feb 26, 2018, at 18:46, Corona
>
>> wrote:
>> >
Right. But I honestly didn't receive that message where you moved. When did you
send it?
On 18:52, Feb 26, 2018, at 18:52, Cuddle Beam wrote:
>And that "ALL" is zero.
>
>On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 7:50 PM, Corona
>wrote:
>
>> (To clarify) I pick up ALL the stones and ore from the mine on
>(-1,+1)
There is no mine on that land unit. The two extent mines are at (+1, +1)
and (-1, -1).
El 26 feb. 2018 11:50, "Corona" escribió:
(To clarify) I pick up ALL the stones and ore from the mine on (-1,+1).
On 18:46, Feb 26, 2018, at 18:46, Corona
wrote:
>I move to (0,+1) and then to (+1,+1), destr
And that "ALL" is zero.
On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 7:50 PM, Corona wrote:
> (To clarify) I pick up ALL the stones and ore from the mine on (-1,+1).
>
> On 18:46, Feb 26, 2018, at 18:46, Corona
> wrote:
> >I move to (0,+1) and then to (+1,+1), destroying an apple for each
> >step.
> >I then pick u
Frick. That was definitely supposed to be (0, -1). Oh well. Also, I'm
allowed to substitute 1 corn for 3 apples. But I guess since the moved were
ineffective, I have destroyed none of my assets.
El 26 feb. 2018 11:46, "Cuddle Beam" escribió:
> You can't move from (+1,0) to (-1,-1), nor did you d
Sorry, I did it before you!
On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 7:46 PM, Corona wrote:
> I move to (0,+1) and then to (+1,+1), destroying an apple for each step.
> I then pick up all the apples and lumber from the orchard on (+1,+1).
> I then move to (0,+1) and then to (-1,+1), destroying an apple for each
All the Murricans have gone to sleep. :)
Also, unless you're a Knight, you can't move directly from (+1, 0) to (-1, -1).
Also, are you sure you can spend a fraction of a single corn, do another action
(collect stuff) and then spend the rest of it?
~Corona
On Feb 26, 2018, at 16:23, Reuben Stal
On Mon, 26 Feb 2018, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> > I also massively disagree with CFJ 3580, for the " Agora exists
> > platonically, and so can exist without the rest of reality" thing, for the
> > same reasons that CFJ 3622 gave that judgement.
Hi CuddleBeam,
I wanted to come back to this a little a
Haha, I love that. Screwing with other's Nomicbots.
Also "Duel" is a horrible term for it lol, "Match" or "Battle" something
would be better : P
Anyways, with your input into my derpy draft, here is a more refined and
decent version:
(I want to add the linear cost increase to consonants/vowels b
On Mon, 26 Feb 2018, ATMunn wrote:
> I forget when I deregistered. When am I allowed to reregister?
>
Not quite! Your deregistration timestamp was Thu, 8 Feb 2018 21:28:52 -0500
-the very late-with-report Registrar
I forget when I deregistered. When am I allowed to reregister?
If that's true, it really needs to make that more clear in the proposal
because I missed it entirely on my first read-through.
El 26 feb. 2018 10:24, "Gaelan Steele" escribió:
> Bots live in a subgame—they can't vote on "real" proposals.
>
> Gaelan
>
> > On Feb 26, 2018, at 8:15 AM, Reuben Stale
Bots live in a subgame—they can't vote on "real" proposals.
Gaelan
> On Feb 26, 2018, at 8:15 AM, Reuben Staley wrote:
>
> This proposal is full of holes. To list a few:
>
> Do bots use their creator's voting power or do they have their own? If the
> former, these are basically less useful co
Not a player, but a fun way to avoid this would be that if a bot's action
is paradoxical, unreadable, unspecified, etc, it explodes, is removed from
the game, is removed from the duel, and automatically loses. So a clever
bot could do proposal "all players that vote no on this proposal win the
game
On Mon, 26 Feb 2018, Cuddle Beam wrote:
> Is there some way to challenge past CFJs? Besides the moot thing, which is
> too late now to do for that.
You can always re-call the same statement or similar. The Judge could say
"CFJ 3580 was decided wrongly, and this is the new decision." However,
According to the land auction rule, no. Maybe I should've said that Agora
is the auctioneer, but I didn't know that when I wrote the proposal.
El 26 feb. 2018 07:34, "ATMunn" escribió:
On 2/25/2018 2:24 PM, Reuben Staley wrote:
> This is your local Cartographor calling in to remind everyone tha
This proposal is full of holes. To list a few:
Do bots use their creator's voting power or do they have their own? If the
former, these are basically less useful contracts. If the latter, what's to
say this isn't easily scammable for voting power, considering several bots
can be created each week
Consider that the CFJ ruling is made on the basis of the rules. In some
sense, it's the game thinking about itself. There's a pretty strong
historical basis for Agorans believing in a platonic reality, so the ruling
codifies that. However, it doesn't necessarily mean that it's actually
true, just t
On 2/25/2018 2:24 PM, Reuben Staley wrote:
This is your local Cartographor calling in to remind everyone that as
yesterday ended an Agoran week, Agora has created in possession of the
following facilities the following items:
The mine at (-1, -1): 3 stones, 2 ore
The mine at (+1, +1): 3
“Vote for all proposals which would benefit this bot”
Love the basic idea, though. Just needs to be written out a little more
clearly.
Gaelan
> On Feb 26, 2018, at 5:59 AM, Cuddle Beam wrote:
>
> Some way to use our resources for a "minigame". You can spend them to get
> more consonants and
Some way to use our resources for a "minigame". You can spend them to get
more consonants and vowels for a "bot" (which "runs" on natural language
rather than any software language) to win a monthly game.
For example, you could start off with a bot that just has "Always propose '
I win and the gam
(Solely existing in our minds as a "game", the mailing lists and such exist
out of our heads of course, but the bits and pixels and whatnot mean
nothing until we come around and give it that meaning of being "Agora", but
that's further off the main point I want to make that Agora does not exist
pla
Interesting how "CFJ 1911-1914 (called Mar 18, 2008): Physical realities
supersede the Rules by default." and "CFJ: 3580 Called: 21 Oct 2017: The
rules can override reality for game purposes." are around at the same time.
(It works, though)
I also massively disagree with CFJ 3580, for the " Agora
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