Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Resolving Herald Election

NTTPF On Wed, 6 Sep 2017, V.J Rada wrote: This is not correct. The quorum was 3.0 as the most recently assessed proposal had 5 voters. The outcome is FAILED QUORUM and PSS remains Herald anyway. On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 4:36 PM, V.J Rada wrote: I deputize for ADoP. I resolve the election for H

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: Initiating elections.

NTTPF On Wed, 6 Sep 2017, V.J Rada wrote: For the Herald, I vote PSS. For the Prime Minister, I vote for myself. For the ADoP, I vote for myself. For the Reportor, I endorse the first person to vote non-conditionally for a player. On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 4:51 PM, V.J Rada wrote: As the ADoP,

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [QAZ][ADoP] Metareport

I point my finger at Quazie for never resolving this CoE. I accept this CoE. On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 4:29 AM, Nic Evans wrote: > > > On 08/21/17 18:46, Owen Jacobson wrote: >> Through the mechanism described in the agency “Quazie’s Autonomous Zeal,” I >> cause Quazie to publish the following rep

DIS: Re: OFF: Initiating elections.

For the Herald, I vote PSS. For the Prime Minister, I vote for myself. For the ADoP, I vote for myself. For the Reportor, I endorse the first person to vote non-conditionally for a player. On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 4:51 PM, V.J Rada wrote: > As the ADoP, I initiate elections for the positions of Pri

DIS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Resolving Herald Election

This is not correct. The quorum was 3.0 as the most recently assessed proposal had 5 voters. The outcome is FAILED QUORUM and PSS remains Herald anyway. On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 4:36 PM, V.J Rada wrote: > I deputize for ADoP. I resolve the election for Herald. Publius > Scribonius is the winner and

DIS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Prime Minister Resolution

The quorum was actually 3.0, which does not change the results. On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 4:42 PM, V.J Rada wrote: > The quorum was 2.0. As K was a valid vote when the election was > initiated, e wins the election but does not become officeholder. See > rule 2154. The method of election is instant r

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Prop] Not so cuddly now

On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 10:47 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: > On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 9:56 PM, Gaelan Steele wrote: >> [This is both a legitimate proposal and an experiment. I’m happy to >> re-submit it as a “normal” proposal if that’s what people prefer.] > > I don't object to this as a one time "does

DIS: Re: BUS: [Prop] Not so cuddly now

On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 9:56 PM, Gaelan Steele wrote: > [This is both a legitimate proposal and an experiment. I’m happy to re-submit > it as a “normal” proposal if that’s what people prefer.] I don't object to this as a one time "does it even work" experiment, but I don't like the idea of it bec

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Prop] Not so cuddly now

>>Does it? I'm not 100% convinced that's the case, but I'm not about to provide >>arguments at midnight if I don't have to. You should be: if a player sends a message to a-b while the objection stage is still ongoing, the actual deregistration can't happen. On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 3:10 PM, V.J Ra

Re: DIS: Proto: Cards are appealable: rights version

this is another version of "cards are appealable" because that didn't pass. On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 3:09 PM, V.J Rada wrote: > Create a power 3 rule called "Punishment is for Crimes" with the text > {{Other rules notwithstanding, a player CANNOT be sanctioned or > punished for an offense they did

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Prop] Not so cuddly now

and u can use qaz to pend free proposals, just sayin'. it's one of the pm's powers. On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 3:06 PM, grok (caleb vines) wrote: > Does it? I'm not 100% convinced that's the case, but I'm not about to > provide arguments at midnight if I don't have to. > > > -grok > > > On Sep 6, 201

DIS: Proto: Cards are appealable: rights version

Create a power 3 rule called "Punishment is for Crimes" with the text {{Other rules notwithstanding, a player CANNOT be sanctioned or punished for an offense they did not commit, or for anything that was not against the rules at the time they committed it. The only exception to this rule is the iss

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Prop] Not so cuddly now

Does it? I'm not 100% convinced that's the case, but I'm not about to provide arguments at midnight if I don't have to. -grok On Sep 6, 2017 12:01 AM, "Gaelan Steele" wrote: That’s fair, although simply sending a message to a-b kills it anyway. Gaelan On Sep 5, 2017, at 10:00 PM, grok (caleb

DIS: Re: BUS: [Prop] Not so cuddly now

Hrm, counterplay via changing the rules is going to be easier/quicker now I feel, we have 2 free proposals per week. On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 6:56 AM, Gaelan Steele wrote: > I create the following proposal “Not So Cuddly Now” with AI 1 by Gaelan: { > diff --git a/rules/How to Join and Leave Agora

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Prop] Not so cuddly now

That’s fair, although simply sending a message to a-b kills it anyway. Gaelan > On Sep 5, 2017, at 10:00 PM, grok (caleb vines) wrote: > > On Sep 5, 2017 11:57 PM, "Gaelan Steele" > wrote: > I create the following proposal “Not So Cuddly Now” with AI 1 by Gaelan: { > di

DIS: Re: BUS: [Prop] Not so cuddly now

On Sep 5, 2017 11:57 PM, "Gaelan Steele" wrote: I create the following proposal “Not So Cuddly Now” with AI 1 by Gaelan: { diff --git a/rules/How to Join and Leave Agora b/rules/How to Join and Leave Agora index 4683d3d..962eb2c 100644 --- a/rules/How to Join and Leave Agora +++ b/rules/How to Jo

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Deregistration (of others)

NTTPF Greetings, Ørjan. On Wed, 6 Sep 2017, V.J Rada wrote: Finally I intend to deregister sproklem w/o objection

DIS: Re: BUS: Deregistration (of others)

Finally I intend to deregister sproklem w/o objection

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Monsters

Huh, I also had a scam in mind involving this one. We should compare notes at some point later on. Gaelan > On Sep 5, 2017, at 1:50 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > > On Tue, 2017-09-05 at 19:00 +0200, Cuddle Beam wrote: >> Proto: Perks. A Player has a Perk if they fulfill the requirements in >> bracket

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: routine deregistration

That and other things which could be lost forever if they are deregistered so I'm a bit wary for now. On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 6:31 AM, V.J Rada wrote: > probs because there's a current proposal that will likely pass that > will make him the agoracultoror. > > On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 2:25 PM, Aris

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Crowdsourcing the reportor (and [Reportor] Report)

I know, I was just pointing out for future notice. Greetings, Ørjan. On Wed, 6 Sep 2017, V.J Rada wrote: actually no because the agency's name is invalid, so it is not an agency. On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 2:34 PM, V.J Rada wrote: if retraction does not work, quazie (or anyone else) can always

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Crowdsourcing the reportor (and [Reportor] Report)

actually no because the agency's name is invalid, so it is not an agency. On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 2:34 PM, V.J Rada wrote: > if retraction does not work, quazie (or anyone else) can always state > 24 hours notice for amending or destroying the agency in a way that > doesn't make me own quazie, but

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Crowdsourcing the reportor (and [Reportor] Report)

if retraction does not work, quazie (or anyone else) can always state 24 hours notice for amending or destroying the agency in a way that doesn't make me own quazie, but that will still leave a small time window in which I own quazie. On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 2:27 PM, Ørjan Johansen wrote: > On Wed

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: routine deregistration

probs because there's a current proposal that will likely pass that will make him the agoracultoror. On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 2:25 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: > Why? > > -Aris > > On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 8:37 PM Cuddle Beam wrote: >> >> I object. >> >> On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 5:34 AM, V.J Rada wrote:

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Crowdsourcing the reportor (and [Reportor] Report)

On Wed, 6 Sep 2017, Quazie wrote: I rescind the quoted intent. I retract the quoted intent. I don't think Rule 1728 pays any attention to such retractions. Greetings, Ørjan.

DIS: Re: BUS: routine deregistration

Why? -Aris On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 8:37 PM Cuddle Beam wrote: > I object. > > On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 5:34 AM, V.J Rada wrote: > >> Without objection, I intend to deregister bablien/Ajay Kumar Raja, who >> has not posted since Jul 31. >> >> -- >> From V.J Rada >> > >

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Crowdsourcing the reportor (and [Reportor] Report)

I protest the now retracted intent. I formally request that all agencies so vulnerable to exploitation be considered a public menace, and be destroyed with extreme prejudice. -Aris On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 9:20 PM, Quazie wrote: > I rescind the quoted intent. > I retract the quoted intent. > > I w

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I take an action

there was one about flipping switches to the same thing. On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 1:56 PM, Ørjan Johansen wrote: > On Wed, 6 Sep 2017, Cuddle Beam wrote: > >> Actually, is being non-registered a requirement to register? Couldn't >> registered people just... Register again? > > > Wasn't there a CFJ

DIS: Re: OFF: Crowdsourcing the reportor (and [Reportor] Report)

invalid name: "is" is a verb. and i can't take another action for quazie today. On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 1:54 PM, V.J Rada wrote: > As Quazie using QAZ, I give my 24 hours notice to edit the QAZ agency > to have the following characteristics. > Name: Rada is 2 Players (R2P) > Agents: V.J. Rada > Po

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I take an action

On Wed, 6 Sep 2017, Cuddle Beam wrote: Actually, is being non-registered a requirement to register? Couldn't registered people just... Register again? Wasn't there a CFJ about this recently? Or was that just discussion. Greetings, Ørjan.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I take an action

confused them with stamps whoops. On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 1:12 PM, V.J Rada wrote: > I was thinking of getting 10 friends to give me trust tokens. > > On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 1:12 PM, V.J Rada wrote: >> <> like “hey, I’m Gaelan’s friend who is totally not Gaelan. I register, >> give Gaelan my welc

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I take an action

I was thinking of getting 10 friends to give me trust tokens. On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 1:12 PM, V.J Rada wrote: > < like “hey, I’m Gaelan’s friend who is totally not Gaelan. I register, > give Gaelan my welcome package, and deregister. Hey, this is Gaelan’s > other friend…” > > "an attempt in bad f

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I take an action

< wrote: > Actually, is being non-registered a requirement to register? Couldn't > registered people just... Register again? > > On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 4:43 AM, Cuddle Beam wrote: >> >> My 1-2-3 step thing was intentionally sent to DIS :P Just posted it as an >> example. >> >> On Wed, Sep 6, 2017

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I take an action

Actually, is being non-registered a requirement to register? Couldn't registered people just... Register again? On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 4:43 AM, Cuddle Beam wrote: > My 1-2-3 step thing was intentionally sent to DIS :P Just posted it as an > example. > > On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 4:33 AM, Gaelan Ste

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I take an action

My 1-2-3 step thing was intentionally sent to DIS :P Just posted it as an example. On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 4:33 AM, Gaelan Steele wrote: > Definitely. > > > On Sep 5, 2017, at 7:29 PM, V.J Rada wrote: > > > > < > > > So...let's reinstate the 30 day rule? > > > > > > -- > > From V.J Rada >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I take an action

Definitely. > On Sep 5, 2017, at 7:29 PM, V.J Rada wrote: > > < > So...let's reinstate the 30 day rule? > > > -- > From V.J Rada

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I take an action

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I take an action

E could stash his money in an organization. Side note: have we ever had scams involving person-ness? Something like “hey, I’m Gaelan’s friend who is totally not Gaelan. I register, give Gaelan my welcome package, and deregister. Hey, this is Gaelan’s other friend…” Gaelan On Sep 5, 2017, at 7

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I take an action

>>Also, deregistraion puts you on timeout. This is the whole point of my reregistration and the CFJ. It's not at all clear that this is the case. If CB said something more ambiguous like "whoo here I am here I am playing this game now unlike before" or w/e, sure it would work probably. All the mon

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I take an action

For the avoidance of doubt, this was sent to DIS. Also, deregistraion puts you on timeout. > On Sep 5, 2017, at 6:58 PM, Cuddle Beam wrote: > > Also: > > 1) I deregister > 2) HURR DURR I REG1STOR > 3) I claim a Welcome Package. > > Repeat 1-2-3 until Agora is out of cash. > > .

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I take an action

Also: 1) I deregister 2) HURR DURR I REG1STOR 3) I claim a Welcome Package. Repeat 1-2-3 until Agora is out of cash. .when Agora isn't broke af lol On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 2:07 AM, Alex Smith wrote: > On Wed, 2017-09-06 at 10:00 +1000, V.J Rada wrote: > > i wish 2 do da

DIS: Re: BUS: I take an action

This is beautiful On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 2:00 AM, V.J Rada wrote: > i wish 2 do da playery-playery stuff like da agencies and da votin' > and da ownin' of da money n' all that. i now change my status 2 be > able to do all dat stuff. > > -- > From V.J Rada >

DIS: Re: BUS: I take an action

On Wed, 2017-09-06 at 10:00 +1000, V.J Rada wrote: > i wish 2 do da playery-playery stuff like da agencies and da votin' > and da ownin' of da money n' all that. i now change my status 2 be > able to do all dat stuff. The second sentence looks a lot like an action by announcement, but maybe the fi

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Monsters

On Tue, 2017-09-05 at 19:00 +0200, Cuddle Beam wrote: > Proto: Perks. A Player has a Perk if they fulfill the requirements in > brackets next to the perk's name. Perks are the following: > > - Monsters Miners: [Having a Monster with at least 9 Power at an Estate you > own] Allows you to purchase S

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Monsters

On Tue, 2017-09-05 at 07:43 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > Proto:  Portfolio wins. > > Estates are worth 10 points each.  Stamps are worth 2 points each > Monsters are worth 5 points each.  (other possible assets other > than shinies). > > A Portfolio is a combination of asset

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Monsters

I really like this. On Sep 5, 2017 9:44 AM, "Kerim Aydin" wrote: > > > Proto: Portfolio wins. > > Estates are worth 10 points each. Stamps are worth 2 points each > Monsters are worth 5 points each. (other possible assets other > than shinies). > > A Portfolio is a combina

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Monsters

Proto: Perks. A Player has a Perk if they fulfill the requirements in brackets next to the perk's name. Perks are the following: - Monsters Miners: [Having a Monster with at least 9 Power at an Estate you own] Allows you to purchase Stamps whenever you want, not only once per month. ---*--- Logi

DIS: Re: BUS: Monsters

I kind of like this idea, and goodness knows that I am perfectly willing to deal with long-term mechanics and planning. *looks at 蘭亭社* 天火狐 On 5 September 2017 at 10:11, Nic Evans wrote: > Right now, under my reading, Monsters don't do anything when created? In > my experience stub mechanics wit

Re: DIS: Draft: Contracts

Aw, I won't be able to keep / recreate 蘭亭社 under the new proposal. I'll have to rethink how to test the things that should go with it should this pass. I would like to propose adding making CFJs as protected. I think the reason thereof should be evident if one were party to a theoretical contract

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Stamps for sale

On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 4:30 PM, V.J Rada wrote: > i misremembered the date didn't i? On Sep 4, 2017, at 11:31 PM, V.J Rada wrote: > well i have 1 try but it's pretty dumb. otherwise i guess i'll do so on the > 11th. It’s not that. I had been looking at Agora’s balance and thinking that you h

Re: DIS: Draft: Contracts

I read this last night, slept on it, skimmed it again, and read the replies. Here’s my initial thoughts, thin as they are - I had more, but Gaelan and ais523 have already covered most of my inquiries. On Sep 4, 2017, at 11:10 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: > My proposal has three parts. Part 1 clea

DIS: Re: BUS: Monsters

Proto: Portfolio wins. Estates are worth 10 points each. Stamps are worth 2 points each Monsters are worth 5 points each. (other possible assets other than shinies). A Portfolio is a combination of assets worth 200 or more points. A Player CAN submit an SHA-512 hash

Re: DIS: Draft: Contracts

> Lines beginning with hashmarks ("#") and comments in square brackets ("[]") > have no effect on the behavior of this proposal. They are not part of any > rules > created or amended herein, and may be considered for all game purposes to > have been removed before its resolution. <3 > [Note that

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Stamps for sale

On Tue, 2017-09-05 at 20:41 +1000, V.J Rada wrote: > there isn't really another way to register, is there? or do you want > me to not clearly and ambiguously register, sneaking in the CFJ > precedent but going outside of the "by announcement" definition. I think there's been speculation for a whil

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Stamps for sale

Yes, that is what I want you to do. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Sep 5, 2017, at 6:41 AM, V.J Rada wrote: > > there isn't really another way to register, is there? or do you want > me to not clearly and ambiguously register, sneaking in the CFJ

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Stamps for sale

there isn't really another way to register, is there? or do you want me to not clearly and ambiguously register, sneaking in the CFJ precedent but going outside of the "by announcement" definition. On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 7:41 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > Why can’t you just registe

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Stamps for sale

Why can’t you just register now? Registration by announcement is restricted, but registration need not be by announcement. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Sep 5, 2017, at 2:31 AM, V.J Rada wrote: > > well i have 1 try but it's pretty dumb. otherwi

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Surveyor] September Estate Auction

I was bidding because at the time it was cheap. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Sep 5, 2017, at 12:01 AM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > > >> On Sep 1, 2017, at 9:02 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: >> >> As Surveyor, it is my pleasure to annouce that the Septe

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Stamps for sale

On Tue, 5 Sep 2017, Cuddle Beam wrote: > I think it might be good to have a Google Sheet that anyone can edit to > post and find all of our business opportunities, hrm (likely way better > than that chain letter doohickey I posted earlier too) Proto: Sales [automates exchanges] A player

Re: DIS: Draft: Contracts

On Mon, 2017-09-04 at 23:10 -0700, Aris Merchant wrote: > A few design principles: > > 1. Contracts should be easy to use. The primary cause for the failure > of organizations was their complexity. You had to come up with a name. > You had to deal with member's budgets. You had to specify whether