Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Enigma] This week's puzzles

2009-04-20 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 20 Apr 2009, comex wrote: > On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Alex Smith wrote: >>so the faster rower has to slow down to the speed of >>        the slower; as a result, the boat crosses the river in the same >>        time that it would take the slower of the two passengers to row

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2457 assigned to coppro

2009-04-20 Thread Ed Murphy
I wrote: > coppro wrote: > >> Query to the CotC: Are there any non-parties to the AAA available to >> judge this case, or who will be available soon? > > I'd have to check. Note that Rule 2169 includes an exception for such > situations ("except while this would result"), precisely because we r

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2457 assigned to coppro

2009-04-20 Thread Ed Murphy
coppro wrote: > Ed Murphy wrote: >> Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2457 > > Tom, Yally, Tiger, and BobTHJ appear to be both standing and otherwise > qualified for this case. Since I am a party to the AAA, I believe that I > exhibit self-interest in the judgment of this

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Scorekeepor] Totally Correct Scoreboard

2009-04-20 Thread Sean Hunt
Elliott Hird wrote: > On 2009-04-21, Ian Kelly wrote: >> On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 9:06 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: >>> CoE: Murphy has only 5+5i points >> Denied. >> >> -root >> > > Can't a cfj be called? No need, it was my mistake. Calling a CFJ would be overkill, I think.

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2454 assigned to Yally

2009-04-20 Thread Aaron Goldfein
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 9:07 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > Aaron Goldfein wrote: > > > > > > On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Ed Murphy > > wrote: > > > > Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2454 > > > > == CFJ 24

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Scorekeepor] Totally Correct Scoreboard

2009-04-20 Thread Elliott Hird
On 2009-04-21, Ian Kelly wrote: > On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 9:06 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: >> CoE: Murphy has only 5+5i points > > Denied. > > -root > Can't a cfj be called?

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2457 assigned to coppro

2009-04-20 Thread Ed Murphy
coppro wrote: > Query to the CotC: Are there any non-parties to the AAA available to > judge this case, or who will be available soon? I'd have to check. Note that Rule 2169 includes an exception for such situations ("except while this would result"), precisely because we ran into the problem se

DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2457 assigned to coppro

2009-04-20 Thread Sean Hunt
Ed Murphy wrote: > Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2457 > > == CFJ 2457 == > > In the message in which I initiated this CFJ, I created three > Water Rights Vouchers in my own possession. > > =

DIS: Re: BUS: Nominations

2009-04-20 Thread Elliott Hird
On 2009-04-21, Aaron Goldfein wrote: > I nominate BobTHJ, Dvorak Herring, and Taral for each of the following > offices: Accountor, Tailor, and Rulekeepor. > > -Yally > Getting Dvorak to do anything but vote? ha!

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2458 assigned to Taral

2009-04-20 Thread Sean Hunt
comex wrote: > On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Taral wrote: >>> NOT GUILTY, Rule 2202 assigns it to the report but Rule 2143 is what >>> actually obligated em to publish it. >> Rule 1789 uses the language "The Registrar shall". I think that's an >> obligation, don't you? > > In full: > > "The R

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2459 assigned to comex

2009-04-20 Thread Aaron Goldfein
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 6:35 PM, comex wrote: > On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 7:03 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: > > Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2459 > > > > = Criminal Case 2459 = > > > >Yally violated Rule 2202 by failing to

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2458 assigned to Taral

2009-04-20 Thread comex
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Taral wrote: >> NOT GUILTY, Rule 2202 assigns it to the report but Rule 2143 is what >> actually obligated em to publish it. > > Rule 1789 uses the language "The Registrar shall". I think that's an > obligation, don't you? In full: "The Registrar shall note the m

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2458 assigned to Taral

2009-04-20 Thread Aaron Goldfein
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 7:34 PM, Taral wrote: > On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Aaron Goldfein > wrote: > > I support this appeal. > > > > Judge comex's arguments on 2459: > > > > NOT GUILTY, Rule 2202 assigns it to the report but Rule 2143 is what > > actually obligated em to publish it. > > R

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2458 assigned to Taral

2009-04-20 Thread Taral
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Aaron Goldfein wrote: > I support this appeal. > > Judge comex's arguments on 2459: > > NOT GUILTY, Rule 2202 assigns it to the report but Rule 2143 is what > actually obligated em to publish it. Rule 1789 uses the language "The Registrar shall". I think that's an

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2458 assigned to Taral

2009-04-20 Thread Sean Hunt
Taral wrote: > On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 5:25 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: >> I intend, with 2 support, to appeal this judgment. Yally cannot have >> violated Rule 1789 as it imposes no obligations on em. See CFJ 2459. > > I missed something? 2459 is still pending, and doesn't have any > arguments to that

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2458 assigned to Taral

2009-04-20 Thread Taral
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 5:25 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > I intend, with 2 support, to appeal this judgment. Yally cannot have > violated Rule 1789 as it imposes no obligations on em. See CFJ 2459. I missed something? 2459 is still pending, and doesn't have any arguments to that effect. -- Taral "Pl

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2458 assigned to Taral

2009-04-20 Thread Sean Hunt
Aaron Goldfein wrote: > > > On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 7:25 PM, Sean Hunt > wrote: > > Taral wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Ed Murphy > wrote: > >> = Criminal Case 2458 > ==

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2458 assigned to Taral

2009-04-20 Thread Aaron Goldfein
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 7:25 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > Taral wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Ed Murphy > wrote: > >> = Criminal Case 2458 = > >> > >>Yally violated Rule 1789 by failing to ensure that henceforth > >>all may know t

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2455 assigned to comex

2009-04-20 Thread Aaron Goldfein
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 7:57 AM, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > Also, assigning this CFJ to comex was manifestly unjust. I nominate > ehird, comex, and Goethe as CotC. > > --Wooble > Goethe is not a player.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Enigma] This week's puzzles

2009-04-20 Thread Alex Smith
On Mon, 2009-04-20 at 17:12 -0400, comex wrote: > Surely two rowers rowing at the same speed would propel the boat twice > as fast as one alone... There's more weight in the boat then, so they have more weight to pull. Anyway, it's a puzzle, don't try to rationalize it too much... -- ais523

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Enigma] This week's puzzles

2009-04-20 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 3:12 PM, comex wrote: > On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Alex Smith wrote: >> The boat is designed for two rowers and one passenger, so the following >> three possibilities exist: >>     1. Only one person is in the boat. One person can manage the boat >>        by emself,

DIS: Re: BUS: [Enigma] This week's puzzles

2009-04-20 Thread comex
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > The boat is designed for two rowers and one passenger, so the following > three possibilities exist: >     1. Only one person is in the boat. One person can manage the boat >        by emself, crossing at their normal rowing speed; however, >  

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution 6209 - 6222 & Report

2009-04-20 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/4/20 Ed Murphy : > Tiger wrote: > >>> 6211  Refactor appeals opinions                  O  1.7  1   comex >> FORx2 > > Your caste is only 1. > I know. -- -Tiger

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution 6209 - 6222 & Report

2009-04-20 Thread Ed Murphy
Tiger wrote: >> 6211 Refactor appeals opinions O 1.7 1 comex > FORx2 Your caste is only 1.

DIS: Re: BUS: NoV, obnoxious intents

2009-04-20 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/4/20 comex : > [Completely off-topic: It's a week since vacation but I'm still trying > to find the time to publish a Lead Sheet.  (hours, most likely...) > But if someone else wants to do it, I'll accept the rests for the last > few weeks.] > I'm trying to sort it out now. If you don't hear f

DIS: Re: BUS: IADoP deputy notice

2009-04-20 Thread Aaron Goldfein
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > I intend to deputize for the IADoP to publish eir report. > No need. It was already published on April 6. As IADoP, I intend to publish it the first of May.

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Insulator] Fnord!

2009-04-20 Thread Aaron Goldfein
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 8:02 AM, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 10:56 PM, Aaron Goldfein > wrote: > > I bar Wooble > > from > > acting as Judge. > > I publish an NoV accusing Yally of violating R2215, a Power-1 Rule, by > announcing that e bars me from acting as Judge with the in

DIS: RE: BUS: Re: OFF: [AAA] Agriculture Report

2009-04-20 Thread Alexander Smith
Murphy wrote: > BobTHJ wrote: > > This is a public pledge, named Mill Sales. BobTHJ may amend or > > terminate this pledge by announcement. Upon a player transferring me > > two crops of eir choice, e may act on my behalf to transfer any one > > mill in my possession to emself. > I transfer two 7 c

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation

2009-04-20 Thread Ed Murphy
coppro wrote: > On a related note, I retract my vote for Proposal Withdrawals and > instead vote AGAINST it. NttPF.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Rate adjustment

2009-04-20 Thread Elliott Hird
2009/4/20 Ed Murphy : > Possibly, though the PBA's basic economic assumptions (scarce currencies > inflate until deposited, non-scarce currencies deflate until withdrawn) > have arguably already been broken due to non-reporting and collective > apathy. I nominate Ben Bernanke for Coinkeepor.

DIS: Re: BUS: Rate adjustment

2009-04-20 Thread Elliott Hird
2009/4/20 Ed Murphy : > I intend, with the consent of the People, to amend the PBA contract > by appending this section: > >  *) Upon the addition of this section, each Eligible Currency's rate >     is set to ^14, then this section is removed. > I tried this before. Wooble objected, nobody suppor

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Insulator] Fnord!

2009-04-20 Thread Elliott Hird
2009/4/20 Geoffrey Spear : > I publish an NoV accusing Yally of violating R2215, a Power-1 Rule, by > announcing that e bars me from acting as Judge with the intent to > mislead H. CotC Murphy into thinking that doing so was possible. Can you just go away until you decide to take actions other tha

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Rate adjustment

2009-04-20 Thread Ed Murphy
Wooble wrote: > On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Ed Murphy wrote: >> I intend, with the consent of the People, to amend the PBA contract >> by appending this section: >> >> *) Upon the addition of this section, each Eligible Currency's rate >> is set to ^14, then this section is removed. >

DIS: Re: BUS: Resignation

2009-04-20 Thread Sean Hunt
comex wrote: > coppro is wrong. When I handled Proposal 6089 (Goethe), I incorrectly > removed the following text: > > The author (syn. > proposer) of a proposal is the player who submitted it. The > author of a proposal may remove it

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Scorekeepor] Totally Correct Scoreboard

2009-04-20 Thread Sean Hunt
Ian Kelly wrote: > On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 9:06 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: >> Ian Kelly wrote: >>> coppro 50+50i250050 0 >>> Murphy 6+ 5i 30 5.5 89 >>> root50+50i250050 0 >> CoE: Murphy has only 5+5i points > > How do you figu

DIS: Re: BUS: Rate adjustment

2009-04-20 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Ed Murphy wrote: > I intend, with the consent of the People, to amend the PBA contract > by appending this section: > >  *) Upon the addition of this section, each Eligible Currency's rate >     is set to ^14, then this section is removed. Doesn't that just make

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: PBA status?

2009-04-20 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 10:07 AM, Ed Murphy wrote: > Oi, talk about temporal databases.  I think I know how to automate it > sanely, though (when recording a transaction, first generate all rate > changes between the last one and the current one; when generating a > report, assume further rate cha

DIS: Re: BUS: [AAA] SoA Actions

2009-04-20 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/4/20 Geoffrey Spear : > I award 8+2i points to Murphy for harvesting 2 democratic proposals > and an ordinary proposal. > > Tiger's request for subsidization in denied; e has 5 lands (3 ranches, > 2 mills) and the subsidy is 4. > > --SoA Wooble > Oh. That's right, it's "lands", not "ranches".

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: PBA status?

2009-04-20 Thread comex
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > but I'm not a Comrade anymore. *an

DIS: Re: BUS: AAA Subsidization

2009-04-20 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Ed Murphy wrote: > Same here, though I suspect this fails because I harvested some > proposal numbers recently. No, it fails because you have 6 lands and the subsidy is 4. I didn't award any points last week; I will do so as soon as I finish confirming the harves

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: PBA status?

2009-04-20 Thread Ed Murphy
Wooble wrote: > On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 11:22 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: >> I deposit five 0 crops. >> I deposit five 1 crops. >> I deposit five 3 crops. >> I deposit five 7 crops. >> I deposit five 9 crops. > > I nominate Murphy as Coinkeepor. I'd intend to amend the contract, > but I'm not a Comrad

DIS: Re: OFF: [Scorekeepor] Totally Correct Scoreboard

2009-04-20 Thread comex
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 11:04 PM, Ian Kelly wrote: > coppro          50+50i    2500    50         0 > root            50+50i    2500    50         0 taking advantage of an accidentally removed paragraph, eh? :)

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: PBA status?

2009-04-20 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 11:22 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: > I deposit five 0 crops. > I deposit five 1 crops. > I deposit five 3 crops. > I deposit five 7 crops. > I deposit five 9 crops. I nominate Murphy as Coinkeepor. I'd intend to amend the contract, but I'm not a Comrade anymore.

DIS: Re: BUS: AAA Subsidization

2009-04-20 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/4/20 Ed Murphy : > Tiger wrote: > >> I request subsidization. >> (I'm not sure about when points were last awarded, but from a quick >> search in the scoreboards it seems the subsidy should have went up to >> 4 this week.) > > Same here, though I suspect this fails because I harvested some > p

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Grand Poobah] Plaster Report

2009-04-20 Thread comex
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 11:57 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> I CFJ {On April 1, 2009, Goethe legally flipped j to Beta.} > btw, fair enough one way or the other, I thought you were just ignoring > the issue; you're right the last CFJ wasn't that explicit.  -G. Gratuitous arguments: Goethe did not succ