Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2422 assigned to Wooble

2009-03-19 Thread Ed Murphy
comex wrote: > On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 8:23 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: >> I would express the standard as follows: If >> >> a) it can be understood based solely on a typical player's >> i) knowledge of eir native language (in Agora, English has always >> been typical) and >> ii)

DIS: Re: BUS: countdown

2009-03-19 Thread Ed Murphy
Goethe wrote: > On Fri, 20 Mar 2009, Elliott Hird wrote: >> Base64 is ridiculously well known. > > AVPR GEL, OHG V GNXR GUR SBYYBJVAT NPGVBA: (rot13: "Nice try, but I take the following action:") > J DBMM GPS KVEHFNFOU PO UIF GPMMPXJOH TUBUFNFOU: (rot1 or rot25: "I call for judgement on the follo

DIS: Re: BUS: countdown

2009-03-19 Thread Elliott Hird
.troppus I On 2009-03-20, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > On Fri, 20 Mar 2009, Elliott Hird wrote: >> Base64 is ridiculously well known. > > AVPR GEL, OHG V GNXR GUR SBYYBJVAT NPGVBA: > J DBMM GPS KVEHFNFOU PO UIF GPMMPXJOH TUBUFNFOU: > JXYI YI JXU IJQJUCUDJ ED MXYSX Y SQBBUT VEH ZKTWUCUDJ XUHU. > > -Goet

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: SGVsbG8sIHdvcmxkIQ==

2009-03-19 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 20 Mar 2009, Elliott Hird wrote: > On 2009-03-20, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> >> On Thu, 19 Mar 2009, comex wrote: >>> On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Warrigal wrote: ih...@normish:~$ echo 'SGVsbG8sIHdvcmxkIQ==' | base64 -d; echo Hello, world! ih...@normish:~$ echo 'Q0ZKOiB7VGh

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: SGVsbG8sIHdvcmxkIQ==

2009-03-19 Thread Elliott Hird
On 2009-03-20, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > On Thu, 19 Mar 2009, comex wrote: >> On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Warrigal wrote: >>> ih...@normish:~$ echo 'SGVsbG8sIHdvcmxkIQ==' | base64 -d; echo >>> Hello, world! >>> ih...@normish:~$ echo 'Q0ZKOiB7VGhpcyBDRkogZXhpc3RzLn0=' | base64 -d; >>> echo >>> C

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: SGVsbG8sIHdvcmxkIQ==

2009-03-19 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009, comex wrote: > On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Warrigal wrote: >> ih...@normish:~$ echo 'SGVsbG8sIHdvcmxkIQ==' | base64 -d; echo >> Hello, world! >> ih...@normish:~$ echo 'Q0ZKOiB7VGhpcyBDRkogZXhpc3RzLn0=' | base64 -d; echo >> CFJ: {This CFJ exists.} >> ih...@normish:~$ >> >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: dead contests

2009-03-19 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Taral wrote: > On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Geoffrey Spear wrote: >> AAA, the only contest for which I was the Contestmaster for at least >> 16 days in February. > > Oh, right. Sorry, I saw 15 points and got confused. I believe 15 players were players of AAA

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: dead contests

2009-03-19 Thread Taral
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > AAA, the only contest for which I was the Contestmaster for at least > 16 days in February. Oh, right. Sorry, I saw 15 points and got confused. -- Taral "Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you." -- Unknown

DIS: Re: BUS: SGVsbG8sIHdvcmxkIQ==

2009-03-19 Thread Taral
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Elliott Hird wrote: > Q0ZKOiB7VGhpcyBDRkogZXhpc3RzLn0= No. -- Taral "Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you." -- Unknown

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2422 assigned to Wooble

2009-03-19 Thread comex
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 8:23 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: > I would express the standard as follows:  If > >  a) it can be understood based solely on a typical player's >       i) knowledge of eir native language (in Agora, English has always >          been typical) and >      ii) common sense (for upsi

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2422 assigned to Wooble

2009-03-19 Thread Ed Murphy
ehird wrote: > 2009/3/19 Ed Murphy : >> I thought the rules contained an English-centric clause at the time, but >> http://www.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-official/2005-December/002501.html >> >> (the last SLR before CFJ 1580) says otherwise. Â Accordingly, I'll remove >> this lat

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2422 assigned to Wooble

2009-03-19 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 7:47 PM, Elliott Hird wrote: > The recent Spanish/Unicode incidents, IMO, provide strong evidence > that this precedent no longer exists. The unicode was sent in a format that any modern mail program would display in a readable manner. The Spanish was probably reasonably

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2422 assigned to Wooble

2009-03-19 Thread Elliott Hird
2009/3/19 Ed Murphy : > I thought the rules contained an English-centric clause at the time, but > http://www.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-official/2005-December/002501.html > > (the last SLR before CFJ 1580) says otherwise.  Accordingly, I'll remove > this latest attempt from the D

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2422 assigned to Wooble

2009-03-19 Thread Ed Murphy
Wooble wrote: > On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: >> Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2422 >> >> == CFJ 2422 == >> >>This CFJ exists. > > Mu. CFJ 1580 establishes that BASE64 messages are not

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: SGVsbG8sIHdvcmxkIQ==

2009-03-19 Thread comex
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Warrigal wrote: > ih...@normish:~$ echo 'SGVsbG8sIHdvcmxkIQ==' | base64 -d; echo > Hello, world! > ih...@normish:~$ echo 'Q0ZKOiB7VGhpcyBDRkogZXhpc3RzLn0=' | base64 -d; echo > CFJ: {This CFJ exists.} > ih...@normish:~$ > > Gratuitous arguments: I consider these enc

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: dead contests

2009-03-19 Thread Sean Hunt
Geoffrey Spear wrote: > Damn, I suppose the recordkeepors of rules-defined assets no longer > CAN generally create them (except by self-ratification, of course). CFJ 2403 establishes that Taral had (and, for that matter, still has) the ability to award points to you, and since the only mechanism th

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: SGVsbG8sIHdvcmxkIQ==

2009-03-19 Thread Ian Kelly
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Warrigal wrote: > On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 5:46 PM, Elliott Hird > wrote: >> 2009/3/19 Geoffrey Spear : >>> On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Elliott Hird >>> wrote: Q0ZKOiB7VGhpcyBDRkogZXhpc3RzLn0= >>> >>> I Object. >> >> You can't object to the creation of a

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2422 assigned to Wooble

2009-03-19 Thread Elliott Hird
2009/3/19 Geoffrey Spear : > Mu.  CFJ 1580 establishes that BASE64 messages are not valid; CFJ1741 > clarified that a MIME message using BASE64 is valid, but the message > in this case does not specify a MIME type and players can not be > expected to translate gibberish into English. 'Scuse me, we

DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2422 assigned to Wooble

2009-03-19 Thread Elliott Hird
2009/3/19 Ed Murphy : > > Caller:                                 ehird > > Judge:                                  Wooble > Judgement: > > It's like te

DIS: Re: BUS: SGVsbG8sIHdvcmxkIQ==

2009-03-19 Thread Elliott Hird
2009/3/19 Geoffrey Spear : > On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Elliott Hird > wrote: >> Q0ZKOiB7VGhpcyBDRkogZXhpc3RzLn0= > > I Object. > You can't object to the creation of a CFJ.

DIS: Re: [s-d] InterNomic II

2009-03-19 Thread Elliott Hird
2009/3/19 Charles Walker : > I am proud to announce the rebirth of InterNomic II. It is hosted at > http://internomic2.wikidot.com/ and includes a fully functioning set of > forums. (The groups 'General' and 'Off-topic' under 'General' in the forums > allow for anonymous and non-member posts if you

Re: DIS: InterNomic II

2009-03-19 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/3/19 Warrigal : > On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn > wrote: >> We should so join this, right? > > I imagine it would be similar if Agora and B simply joined each other, > or at least if B joined Agora. I believe that BlogNomic will not join. > > --Warrigal > I will try to get

Re: DIS: InterNomic II

2009-03-19 Thread Warrigal
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: > We should so join this, right? I imagine it would be similar if Agora and B simply joined each other, or at least if B joined Agora. I believe that BlogNomic will not join. --Warrigal

Re: DIS: InterNomic II

2009-03-19 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/3/19 Charles Walker : > I am proud to announce the rebirth of InterNomic II. It is hosted > at http://internomic2.wikidot.com/ and includes a fully functioning set of > forums. (The groups 'General' and 'Off-topic' under 'General' in the forums > allow for anonymous and non-member posts if you

DIS: Re: BUS: SGVsbG8sIHdvcmxkIQ==

2009-03-19 Thread Warrigal
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Elliott Hird wrote: > Q0ZKOiB7VGhpcyBDRkogZXhpc3RzLn0= For the benefit of Murphy and/or anyone else who's interested: ih...@normish:~$ echo 'SGVsbG8sIHdvcmxkIQ==' | base64 -d; echo Hello, world! ih...@normish:~$ echo 'Q0ZKOiB7VGhpcyBDRkogZXhpc3RzLn0=' | base64 -d

DIS: InterNomic II

2009-03-19 Thread Charles Walker
I am proud to announce the rebirth of InterNomic II. It is hosted at http://internomic2.wikidot.com/ and includes a fully functioning set of forums. (The groups 'General' and 'Off-topic' under 'General' in the forums allow for anonymous and non-member posts if you want to try it out without joining

DIS: Re: BUS: SGVsbG8sIHdvcmxkIQ==

2009-03-19 Thread Sgeo
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 4:47 PM, Sgeo wrote: > On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Elliott Hird > wrote: >> Q0ZKOiB7VGhpcyBDRkogZXhpc3RzLn0= >> > > What's with the strange character at the end of the subject? > Nevermind.

DIS: Re: BUS: SGVsbG8sIHdvcmxkIQ==

2009-03-19 Thread Sgeo
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Elliott Hird wrote: > Q0ZKOiB7VGhpcyBDRkogZXhpc3RzLn0= > What's with the strange character at the end of the subject?

DIS: Re: BUS: SGVsbG8sIHdvcmxkIQ==

2009-03-19 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009, Elliott Hird wrote: > Q0ZKOiB7VGhpcyBDRkogZXhpc3RzLn0= At some point, we have to stop reminding people about CFJ 1460 and just hand out boots to the head. (My apologies if this is meant to be a non-public communication with someone who has the key). -Goethe

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: dead contests

2009-03-19 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Elliott Hird wrote: > Fails; the AAA wasn't a contest. Damn, I suppose the recordkeepors of rules-defined assets no longer CAN generally create them (except by self-ratification, of course).

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: dead contests

2009-03-19 Thread Elliott Hird
2009/3/19 Geoffrey Spear : > On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Geoffrey Spear wrote: >> I intend to deputise for the Scorekeepor to award contestmasters for >> February. > > I deputise for the Scorekeepor to award myself 15 + 15i points. > > I'll leave the question of whether completing the empty

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: dead contests

2009-03-19 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 3:13 PM, Taral wrote: > On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 7:55 AM, Geoffrey Spear wrote: >> I deputise for the Scorekeepor to award myself 15 + 15i points. > > For which contest? AAA, the only contest for which I was the Contestmaster for at least 16 days in February.

DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2404 judged FALSE by Wooble

2009-03-19 Thread Taral
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: > If the contestmaster did not, in fact, perform the contract-defined > duties of the contest in a timely manner, the Scorekeepor has no > duties whatsoever with respect to that contest under R2234; e is under > no obligation to list contests for

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: dead contests

2009-03-19 Thread Taral
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 7:55 AM, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > I deputise for the Scorekeepor to award myself 15 + 15i points. For which contest? -- Taral "Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you." -- Unknown

DIS: Re: BUS: PNP Voting

2009-03-19 Thread Ed Murphy
The PerlNomic Partnership wrote: > 6155 FOR Ineffective due to caste.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: OFF: Distribution of proposals 6140-6151

2009-03-19 Thread Ed Murphy
OscarMeyr wrote: > On Mar 16, 2009, at 4:42 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: >> I have castes as follows, please let me know of any errors: >> >> Alpha: Goethe >>Beta: Billy Pilgrim >> Gamma: j, OscarMeyr, Pavitra, Taral, woggle, Wooble >> Delta: cmealerjr, Murphy >> Epsilon: BobTHJ, comex, cop

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 6152-6164

2009-03-19 Thread Ed Murphy
ehird wrote: >> 6155 O 1 1.0 comex        Refactor falsity > FOR These and other votes on ordinary proposals still fail due to Rests zeroing your voting limit.

DIS: Re: BUS: Votes

2009-03-19 Thread Ed Murphy
coppro wrote: > 6147: FOR The DB says you previously voted AGAINST this, thus this vote is ineffective for being over your voting limit.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 6152-6164

2009-03-19 Thread Ed Murphy
coppro wrote: > I CFJ {Warrigal has, at the time of this message, voted on proposal > 6164}, then retract any CFJs initiated by me with the same text, if any. Including the one you just initiated?

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 6152-6164

2009-03-19 Thread comex
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:52 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > I CFJ {Warrigal has, at the time of this message, voted on proposal > 6164}, then retract any CFJs initiated by me with the same text, if any. I'm going to say that you successfully called and then retracted a CFJ.