DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5708-5726

2008-09-27 Thread Ben Caplan
On Saturday 27 September 2008 06:20:41 pm comex wrote: > We have no Rule > 400 >0, so I think we're safe. Interesting. I read "4E83" to mean 0x4E83, which would be R20099. So we're safe either way. Pavitra

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Disclaimer

2008-09-27 Thread ihope
On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 12:08 AM, Sgeo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "not necessarily true" doesn't imply automatically false, does it? I believe precedent is that if a disclaimer implies that something may not actually be true, it's not an announcement. --Ivan Hope CXXVII

DIS: Re: BUS: Disclaimer

2008-09-27 Thread Sgeo
On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 11:56 PM, ihope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Disclaimer: The remainder of this message is not necessarily true. > > I CFJ on the following statement: This CFJ will exist one second from now. > > Disclaimer: The above disclaimer is not necessarily true. This > disclaimer take

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Plagiarism

2008-09-27 Thread comex
On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 10:30 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Which server/channel is this, again? Freenode, ##nomic.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Plagiarism

2008-09-27 Thread Ed Murphy
comex wrote: > On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 9:28 PM, Elliott Hird > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Get on IRC! Which server/channel is this, again?

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: AAA - Secretary of Agriculture Report

2008-09-27 Thread Ian Kelly
On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 6:37 PM, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On another note, I really don't have time to keep up with the AAA > right now. Isn't there someone (anyone?) who would be willing to take > it over for now? FRC is less work. Want to trade contests? -root

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Plagiarism

2008-09-27 Thread comex
On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 9:28 PM, Elliott Hird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Get on IRC!

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Plagiarism

2008-09-27 Thread Ed Murphy
tusho wrote: > On 28/09/2008, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I submit the following proposal: >> >> Proposal: switch off the fountain (AI=3) > How dare you! Do you smell paint? (OscarMeyr to Kelly, IIRC: "It was created via a scam, it should only be repealed via a scam.")

DIS: Re: BUS: Plagiarism

2008-09-27 Thread Elliott Hird
On 28/09/2008, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I submit the following proposal: > > Proposal: switch off the fountain (AI=3) How dare you! > { > WHEREAS the Town Fountain is an ugly triviality of ASCII art, unlike > the fine Map of Agora, > > and whereas the scamming spirit of the game is adequa

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: AAA - Secretary of Agriculture Report

2008-09-27 Thread Ed Murphy
ais523 wrote: > Ah, this might be where it breaks down in Agora. The point is that as I > haven't reached my CFJ limit yet, there's no way that the attempt to > call a CFJ can fail, except for some other part of the transaction > failing. And in fact it does fail because of how it's disclaimered.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Community service

2008-09-27 Thread Ed Murphy
ais523 wrote: > On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 00:45 -0700, Ed Murphy wrote: >> Proposal: Community service >> (AI = 1.7, please) >> >> woggle is a co-author of this proposal. >> >> Amend Rule 1504 (Criminal Cases) by appending this text between the >> sections on FINE and CHOKEY: >> >> * COMMUNITY

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: AAA - Secretary of Agriculture Report

2008-09-27 Thread Roger Hicks
On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 1:31 PM, Ben Caplan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday 25 September 2008 04:37:45 pm Kerim Aydin wrote: >> Overall I think it's up to the officer (or contestmaster) recording >> the transactions to decide if it's straightforward and if it is, >> assume the conditional

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Notification of alternate address

2008-09-27 Thread comex
On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 5:48 PM, ais523 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Anyone with internet access has the power to send email from any address at >> all. > >From any From: address, yes. The path from server to server can give it > away though, in theory, unless the attacker happens to control a se

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Notification of alternate address

2008-09-27 Thread ais523
On Sat, 2008-09-27 at 17:45 -0400, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 5:13 PM, ihope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I can testify that ais523 has access to [EMAIL PROTECTED] currently, > > though comex and I both have the power to send email from that address > > as well, and three of

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Notification of alternate address

2008-09-27 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 5:13 PM, ihope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I can testify that ais523 has access to [EMAIL PROTECTED] currently, > though comex and I both have the power to send email from that address > as well, and three of asiekierka, Norgg, Pavitra and Sgeo could > conspire to do so. A

DIS: Re: BUS: Pikhq still seems to be reasonably missing, so I may as well do the mandatory Speaker stuff

2008-09-27 Thread ais523
On Sat, 2008-09-27 at 16:37 -0500, Pikhq wrote: > On Saturday 27 September 2008 15:38:07 ais523 wrote: > > I act on behalf of the Monster to deputise for the Speaker to assign > > prerogatives for October 2008 as follows: > > > > BobTHJ Wielder of Extra Votes > > ais523 Default Officeholder > > Z

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Notification of alternate address

2008-09-27 Thread ihope
On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 5:16 PM, ais523 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 2008-09-27 at 17:13 -0400, ihope wrote: >> I can testify that ais523 has access to [EMAIL PROTECTED] currently, >> though comex and I both have the power to send email from that address >> as well, and three of asiekierka,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5708-5726

2008-09-27 Thread Ian Kelly
NttPF On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Dvorak Herring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I vote: >> >> NUM C I AI SUBMITTER TITLE >> 5708 O 1 1.0 comex > > AGAINST >> >> 5709 D 1 2.0 Murphy Form 2126-EZ > > AGAINST >> >> 5710 D 3 3.0 Murphy Pragmatic

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Notification of alternate address

2008-09-27 Thread ais523
On Sat, 2008-09-27 at 17:13 -0400, ihope wrote: > On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Elliott Hird > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 27 Sep 2008, at 20:34, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> This message hereby informs the Agoran community that this email address > >> is one that I will occasionally use

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5708-5726

2008-09-27 Thread Dvorak Herring
I vote: > NUM C I AI SUBMITTER TITLE > 5708 O 1 1.0 comex AGAINST > 5709 D 1 2.0 Murphy Form 2126-EZ AGAINST > 5710 D 3 3.0 Murphy Pragmatic rights and privileges AGAINST > 5711 O 1 1.7 Murphy Community service AGAINST > 571

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Notification of alternate address

2008-09-27 Thread Ian Kelly
On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 3:00 PM, ais523 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > Prove that it's you. >> >> Since when do we require that for a simple email address change? >> > Since Phill was revealed, probably. Also, it's not exactly a change; > this is still my main address, but I may post through the o

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Notification of alternate address

2008-09-27 Thread ais523
On Sat, 2008-09-27 at 14:58 -0600, Ian Kelly wrote: > On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 2:55 PM, Elliott Hird > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 27 Sep 2008, at 20:34, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >> This message hereby informs the Agoran community that this email address > >> is one that I will occasiona

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Notification of alternate address

2008-09-27 Thread Ian Kelly
On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 2:55 PM, Elliott Hird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 27 Sep 2008, at 20:34, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> This message hereby informs the Agoran community that this email address >> is one that I will occasionally use to send messages to Agora, and >> messages >> from this

DIS: Re: BUS: Notification of alternate address

2008-09-27 Thread Elliott Hird
On 27 Sep 2008, at 20:34, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message hereby informs the Agoran community that this email address is one that I will occasionally use to send messages to Agora, and messages from this address are likely to be from me. However, I will continue to use [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: AAA - Secretary of Agriculture Report

2008-09-27 Thread Ben Caplan
On Thursday 25 September 2008 04:37:45 pm Kerim Aydin wrote: > Overall I think it's up to the officer (or contestmaster) recording > the transactions to decide if it's straightforward and if it is, > assume the conditional works as intended and if it's not > straightforward, the officer should reje

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Knocking at the back door

2008-09-27 Thread Ian Kelly
On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 11:34 AM, ais523 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 2008-09-25 at 17:50 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> I'm not recording this as a win unless it's shown that "certain powers" >> in the generic sense that a foreign nomic might grant them is the same >> as power in the specifi

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Normish is Pointy

2008-09-27 Thread ais523
On Sat, 2008-09-27 at 13:25 -0500, Ben Caplan wrote: > On Saturday 27 September 2008 01:22:24 pm ihope wrote: > > With the consent of all its parties, I intend to amend The Normish > > Partnership by adding the following item to the end of its ordered > > list: "6. Normish Point Vouchers are a curr

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Three proposals

2008-09-27 Thread ais523
On Sat, 2008-09-27 at 12:30 -0500, Ben Caplan wrote: > On Saturday 27 September 2008 01:07:26 am Ed Murphy wrote: > > Proposal: Judicial Declarations > > A judicial declaration published by a judge as required by > > the rules in conjunction with a judgement is self-ratifying, > >

DIS: Re: BUS: Normish is Pointy

2008-09-27 Thread ais523
On Fri, 2008-09-26 at 13:47 -0400, ihope wrote: > With the consent of all its parties, I intend to amend The Normish > Partnership by adding the following item to the end of its ordered > list: "6. Normish Point Vouchers are a currency whose recordkeepor is > The Normish Partnership. Any party to T

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Knocking at the back door

2008-09-27 Thread ais523
On Thu, 2008-09-25 at 17:50 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > On Thu, 25 Sep 2008, Ian Kelly wrote: > > Rule 2148/2 reads, in part, "A foreign nomic may grant certain powers > > and privileges to Agora's ambassador." "Power" is defined by R1688/4 > > to be a non-negative rational number which, if positi

DIS: Re: ?spam? BUS: Judgement in CFJ 2166

2008-09-27 Thread Ben Caplan
On Saturday 27 September 2008 11:04:50 am ais523 wrote: > I intend, with 2 support, to appeal my own judgement of CFJ 2166, > suggesting REMAND; that way I can judge all 3 CFJs together as an > effectively linked assignment, rather than having to try to > synchronise all the individual CFJs one app

DIS: Re: BUS: Three proposals

2008-09-27 Thread Ben Caplan
On Saturday 27 September 2008 01:07:26 am Ed Murphy wrote: > Proposal: Judicial Declarations > A judicial declaration published by a judge as required by > the rules in conjunction with a judgement is self-ratifying, > provided that that judgement remains in effect. Such a >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: AAA - Secretary of Agriculture Report

2008-09-27 Thread ais523
On Thu, 2008-09-25 at 16:47 -0700, Ed Murphy wrote: > ais523 wrote: > > > I perform all the actions in the following block of text, if and only if > > they would all be successful, and every non-action statement in that > > block of text would be true at the time it was made: > > {{{ > > I call fo

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Community service

2008-09-27 Thread ais523
On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 00:45 -0700, Ed Murphy wrote: > Proposal: Community service > (AI = 1.7, please) > > woggle is a co-author of this proposal. > > Amend Rule 1504 (Criminal Cases) by appending this text between the > sections on FINE and CHOKEY: > > * COMMUNITY SERVICE with a set of u

DIS: Re: BUS: Preventing another Annabel Crisis the easy way

2008-09-27 Thread Elliott Hird
On 27 Sep 2008, at 17:45, ais523 wrote: I submit the following proposal (AI=1, II=1, Title="The IADoP is always right"): Append the following paragraph to rule 2138: {{{ The portion of a public message purporting to be an IADoP's report that lists the holder of each office is self-rati