On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 5:16 PM, ais523 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 2008-09-27 at 17:13 -0400, ihope wrote:
>> I can testify that ais523 has access to [EMAIL PROTECTED] currently,
>> though comex and I both have the power to send email from that address
>> as well, and three of asiekierka, Norgg, Pavitra and Sgeo could
>> conspire to do so. It would be against the rules for comex or I to do
>> it ourselves, though, and the conspiracy is quite unlikely.
>
> Actually, it would require all four of asiekerka, Norgg, Pavitra, and
> Sgeo, if I've counted correctly. And then I'd just say the message
> wasn't from me, using my usual address. Also, there'd be evidence within
> Normish no matter how it was done, which could be traced.

It wouldn't require all four if only the three conspiracy members
activated themselves, assuming weak-majority did what it did. And
surely a proposal that runs as root could find a way to erase all
evidence, disable anything that would produce evidence afterward,
erase all evidence that it was disabled, etc. Though that could be
really difficult, and maybe impossible if we have enough security by
obscurity. (I don't know if we do; /usr/bin/nomic/rtbls/activate is
certainly world-readable, but things like /etc/sudoers are not.)

--Ivan Hope CXXVII

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