DIS: Re: BUS: [Fwd: Werewolf random selections]

2008-08-25 Thread Ed Murphy
Pavitra wrote: >> Screw it. I nominate myself. >> >> -root > > I second this nomination, on the theory that werewolves are more likely > to pay attention to the game (root was the only other person to > actually vote) Voting begins at Wed, 27 Aug 2008 16:05:19 -0500. Discuss!

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5674-5681

2008-08-25 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 4:18 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oh I see, you're accepting that CAN works to limit doing things through > mechanism, but not SHALL. Sorry, I thought you were arguing in the "I'm > privileged to do anything so I CAN do anything just by saying that I do it"

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [IADOP] Grand Poobah election

2008-08-25 Thread Benjamin Schultz
On Aug 25, 2008, at 5:06 PM, Pavitra wrote: On Sunday 24 August 2008 08:37:06 am Benjamin Schultz wrote: 2. OscarMeyr may modify this by announcement. (If Agora doesn't like the change, feel free to kick me out of office.) Item 2 is there so I can fix bugs without having to repeal and rein

DIS: Re: BUS: [Fwd: Werewolf random selections]

2008-08-25 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 3:05 PM, Pavitra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Screw it. I nominate myself. >> >> -root > > I second this nomination, on the theory that werewolves are more likely > to pay attention to the game (root was the only other person to > actually vote) Or perhaps I'm a villa

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [IADOP] Grand Poobah election

2008-08-25 Thread Pavitra
On Sunday 24 August 2008 08:37:06 am Benjamin Schultz wrote: > 2. OscarMeyr may modify this by announcement. (If Agora doesn't > like the change, feel free to kick me out of office.) > Item 2 is there so I can fix bugs without having to repeal and > reinstate the pledge. This effectively negate

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5674-5681

2008-08-25 Thread Pavitra
On Monday 25 August 2008 03:08:16 pm Geoffrey Spear wrote: > I'm not sure I accept that it's not possible to play if CAN implies > MAY. Of course, it makes a lot of the stuff that's intentionally > "CAN but SHALL NOT" for pragmatic purposes break, but it's still > possible to play. B Nomic for a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5674-5681

2008-08-25 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 25 Aug 2008, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 3:58 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Well we've never really settled that "Rules are an agreement issue" but >> I have a meta-argument for choosing it... if we accept your argument, >> it's not possible to play Agor

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5674-5681

2008-08-25 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 3:58 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well we've never really settled that "Rules are an agreement issue" but > I have a meta-argument for choosing it... if we accept your argument, > it's not possible to play Agora, so we might as well choose the > interpretatio

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5674-5681

2008-08-25 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 25 Aug 2008, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > I do, however, still maintain that R101(i) makes every SHALL in the > ruleset completely ineffective, including this hypothetical one. Well we've never really settled that "Rules are an agreement issue" but I have a meta-argument for choosing it... if

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5674-5681

2008-08-25 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 25 Aug 2008, ais523 wrote: > On Mon, 2008-08-25 at 13:12 -0400, Geoffrey Spear wrote: >> On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 12:35 PM, ais523 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Probably rule 101 stops this being effective, though, but arguably it >>> does much the same with respect to the PRS. >> >> I'd

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5674-5681

2008-08-25 Thread ais523
On Mon, 2008-08-25 at 13:12 -0400, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 12:35 PM, ais523 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Probably rule 101 stops this being effective, though, but arguably it > > does much the same with respect to the PRS. > > I'd argue that R101 doesn't protect anyone fr

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5674-5681

2008-08-25 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 12:35 PM, ais523 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Probably rule 101 stops this being effective, though, but arguably it > does much the same with respect to the PRS. I'd argue that R101 doesn't protect anyone from contracts they're already party to changing. I do, however, sti

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5674-5681

2008-08-25 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 25 Aug 2008, ais523 wrote: > On Mon, 2008-08-25 at 09:24 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> >> On Mon, 25 Aug 2008, ais523 wrote: -- Increase the power of Rule 2198 to 2. Amend Rule 2198 by prepending th

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5674-5681

2008-08-25 Thread ais523
On Mon, 2008-08-25 at 09:24 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > On Mon, 25 Aug 2008, ais523 wrote: > >> -- > >> > >> Increase the power of Rule 2198 to 2. > >> > >> Amend Rule 2198 by prepending the following sentence to the > >> first

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5674-5681

2008-08-25 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 25 Aug 2008, ais523 wrote: >> -- >> >> Increase the power of Rule 2198 to 2. >> >> Amend Rule 2198 by prepending the following sentence to the >> first paragraph: >> >> Contract changes are secured. >> >>

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5674-5681

2008-08-25 Thread ais523
On Mon, 2008-08-25 at 08:48 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > On Mon, 25 Aug 2008, Roger Hicks wrote: > >> 5681 O 1 1.0 BobTHJ PRS Changes > > This sort of messing around means any contract, no matter how well- > protected in the contract itself against change, can be amended by > majority

DIS: Friendly Reminder

2008-08-25 Thread Roger Hicks
September will be here soon. Do you have adequate WRV to keep your crops alive?