Re: [AFMUG] Cellphone Plans

2024-09-20 Thread Ken Hohhof
Is that 8 GB shared or per line? And when did their business plans stop being unlimited data? Original Message From: "Bill Prince" Sent: 9/20/2024 10:17:57 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cellphone Plans My wife & I had been on Verizon for as long as I can remember. Servic

Re: [AFMUG] race to the bottom?

2024-09-20 Thread Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]
I'm pretty sure it's burning other people's money. Nextlink, for example is expanding their fixed wireless into a town nearby with 3 fiber providers. WHY?! At best, they are going to get the 10-15% of the population that is "never happy" and will end up spending so much time/money on truck rolls

Re: [AFMUG] race to the bottom?

2024-09-20 Thread Ken Hohhof
I vaguely recall a marketing class using the example of 2 hot dog stands on a busy beach in summer. Optimum would be for them to be at the 1/3 and 2/3 points, but instead they will locate right next to each other at the middle.Down the road will we see mergers and buyouts because there are too m

Re: [AFMUG] race to the bottom?

2024-09-20 Thread Robert
Why do I suspect Gov't $$ in there somewhere On 9/20/24 11:28 AM, Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] wrote: Same here.  The same town I mentioned has Comcast trucks all over it.  They will be the 3^rd fiber provider in town. Jim Bouse Brazos WiFi 979-999-7000 *From:*AF *On Behalf Of *ch...@go-m

Re: [AFMUG] race to the bottom?

2024-09-20 Thread Dan P via AF
Good luck with that (getting a good price, in Utah atleast), Comcast business still refuses to do bursting ports. Their wholesale is nice and cheap but that’s limited to a few major markets (closest to Utah is Denver and LA) From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@go-mtc.com Sent: Friday, September 20

Re: [AFMUG] Cellphone Plans

2024-09-20 Thread Bill Prince
The Visible thing is unlimited data, voice, & text. Advisory that it may be throttled under vague circumstances, but I've never really seen it. My wife's Verizon plan is 3GB data with unlimited voice & text. She occasionally goes over the 3GB, but not very often. bp On 9/20/2024 8:21 AM, K

Re: [AFMUG] IP TV

2024-09-20 Thread dmmoffett
Might need a consumer protection warning on the box…. From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Friday, September 20, 2024 1:36 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IP TV I hope Isreal starts manufacturing firestick like "free TV" devices, I have a few customers I w

Re: [AFMUG] race to the bottom?

2024-09-20 Thread Seth Mattinen via AF
On 9/20/24 09:06, Ken Hohhof wrote: I vaguely recall a marketing class using the example of 2 hot dog stands on a busy beach in summer. Optimum would be for them to be at the 1/3 and 2/3 points, but instead they will locate right next to each other at the middle. Down the road will we see mer

Re: [AFMUG] race to the bottom?

2024-09-20 Thread Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]
Same here. The same town I mentioned has Comcast trucks all over it. They will be the 3rd fiber provider in town. Jim Bouse Brazos WiFi 979-999-7000 From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@go-mtc.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2024 10:29 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] race

Re: [AFMUG] IP TV

2024-09-20 Thread Ken Hohhof
It says “Fire Stick” right on the device, did they not expect a fire? From: AF On Behalf Of dmmoff...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2024 1:15 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IP TV Might need a consumer protection warning on the box…. From: AF mai

Re: [AFMUG] Cellphone Plans

2024-09-20 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
At PacketFlux: For employee cell use, we provide a fixed dollar amount subsidy to every employee. Since cell use around here consists pretty much of slack and a couple of similar items, it's only $25. If the employee uses a budget plan that would cover most if not all of it. If we had field

Re: [AFMUG] race to the bottom?

2024-09-20 Thread Ken Hohhof
Did Nextlink get RDOF or CAF money to build there, before the fiber existed? Otherwise yeah, that’s just crazy. From: AF On Behalf Of Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] Sent: Friday, September 20, 2024 1:29 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] race to the bottom? Same here.

Re: [AFMUG] race to the bottom?

2024-09-20 Thread chuck
I am hoping I can get a reasonably priced DIA or dark fiber or transport via comcast for another rout out of here. Best Regards, Chuck McCown McCown Technology Corporation 8401 N Commerce Dr Lake Point, Utah 84074 801-250-9503 Office 435-830-4306 Cell www.mccowntech.com www.microtrench.pro ww

Re: [AFMUG] race to the bottom?

2024-09-20 Thread chuck
I would not buy retail. Never wanted to do those things. From: TJ Trout Sent: Friday, September 20, 2024 1:44 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] race to the bottom? I'm showing SLC has carrier pricing available for dia, EPL and waves. Chuck, be really cautious

Re: [AFMUG] Cellphone Plans

2024-09-20 Thread Nate Burke
Is there some name that your plan has?  They're trying to sell us $350 for our 8 devices, and data limited. On 9/20/2024 12:44 PM, Dennis Burgess via AF wrote: We use Verizon small business plan, 120 for the plan, 10 devices, you can hotspot etc, unlimited cell data (never found a limit nor ha

Re: [AFMUG] Cellphone Plans

2024-09-20 Thread Ken Hohhof
That 8 GB has to be a typo, even just going to their website, the 2 higher business plans are 100 or 200 GB of fast data. The basic one just says it may be deprioritized during network congestion and can't stream at 4K. -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Nate Burke Sent: Friday,

Re: [AFMUG] Cellphone Plans

2024-09-20 Thread Dennis Burgess via AF
The new Verizon Plan Unlimited.. Its 110.. plus 23 a month per device (sim). We have mostly phones, but we also have a few SIMs that we stick in MikroTik LTE radios. They all have VPNs back to the main office, this month we have used 86 gig. -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf O

Re: [AFMUG] Cellphone Plans

2024-09-20 Thread Nate Burke
Do the SIM's in the mikrotiks count as Hotspots, or unlimited data devices? On 9/20/2024 4:19 PM, Dennis Burgess via AF wrote: The new Verizon Plan Unlimited.. Its 110.. plus 23 a month per device (sim). We have mostly phones, but we also have a few SIMs that we stick in MikroTik LTE radios.

Re: [AFMUG] Cellphone Plans

2024-09-20 Thread Dennis Burgess via AF
They are just phones to verizon. We don't have DATA only devices.. -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Nate Burke Sent: Friday, September 20, 2024 4:23 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cellphone Plans Do the SIM's in the mikrotiks count as Hotspots, or unlimited data d

Re: [AFMUG] race to the bottom?

2024-09-20 Thread chuck
Comcast is overbuilding fiber with fiber here. In semi rural areas. From: Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] Sent: Friday, September 20, 2024 8:46 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] race to the bottom? I’m pretty sure it’s burning other people’s money. Nextlink, for example

Re: [AFMUG] race to the bottom?

2024-09-20 Thread chuck
One of their sales guy said he will supply us with DIA. No pricing yet. From: Dan P via AF Sent: Friday, September 20, 2024 12:48 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: Dan P Subject: Re: [AFMUG] race to the bottom? Good luck with that (getting a good price, in Utah atleast), Comcast

Re: [AFMUG] race to the bottom?

2024-09-20 Thread Jason McKemie
The take rate on fiber overbuilding once is frightening enough, I can't imagine what it looks like with 3 fiber providers. On Fri, Sep 20, 2024 at 1:30 PM Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] wrote: > Same here. The same town I mentioned has Comcast trucks all over it. > They will be the 3rd fiber provider

Re: [AFMUG] IP TV

2024-09-20 Thread dmmoffett
Hahah not bad From: AF On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Friday, September 20, 2024 2:26 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IP TV It says “Fire Stick” right on the device, did they not expect a fire? From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf Of dmmo

[AFMUG] OT movie review

2024-09-20 Thread Chuck McCown
Am I Racist Some amusing bits. Many cringy bits. Essentially Matt Walsh as Borat. Certainly don’t pay for it. You need the ability to fast forward. He could have made it much better. Sent from my iPhone -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT movie review

2024-09-20 Thread Chuck McCown
There were some good examples of what he wanted to highlight but his clumsy Borat shtick drew focus at important moments. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 20, 2024, at 6:23 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > Am I Racist > Some amusing bits. Many cringy bits. Essentially Matt Walsh as Borat. > Certain

Re: [AFMUG] race to the bottom?

2024-09-20 Thread Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]
No. We had Gig cable for many years here. Jim Bouse Brazos WiFi 979-999-7000 From: AF On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Friday, September 20, 2024 1:32 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] race to the bottom? Did Nextlink get RDOF or CAF money to build there, before the

[AFMUG] race to the bottom?

2024-09-20 Thread Ken Hohhof
I'm noticing some trends with the numbers for FWA that I can't make sense out of. - monthly price is expected to be $30 to $50 - speed is expected to be 100M to 1G - equipment cost is around $1000 per sub for AP+CPE (if you have at least 50-100 subs per tower) - include a free router or mesh

Re: [AFMUG] race to the bottom?

2024-09-20 Thread TJ Trout
I'm showing SLC has carrier pricing available for dia, EPL and waves. Chuck, be really cautious with dia, Comcast is not ISP friendly and the agreement has a no resale clause if you purchase from the retail channel, they have been known to shut down circuits and take legal action if they perceive

Re: [AFMUG] Cellphone Plans

2024-09-20 Thread Bill Prince
My wife & I had been on Verizon for as long as I can remember. Service has been OK, and they cover a lot of our area that just don't work on the other carriers. About a year ago I switched my phone (not my wife's) to Visible, which is an MVNO which runs on top of Verizon. Cost is a flat $25/mo

[AFMUG] Cellphone Plans

2024-09-20 Thread Nate Burke
We've been with Verizon Forever, since Nextel went away, but their business Data offerings seem to be not very much.  We're working on negotiating a new plan, so we can get some new handsets, and they are trying to put us into an 8gb plan for 8 devices.  And of course, 'Unlimited' is not really

Re: [AFMUG] IP TV

2024-09-20 Thread Steve Jones
I hope Isreal starts manufacturing firestick like "free TV" devices, I have a few customers I would love to have them On Wed, Sep 18, 2024 at 8:50 AM wrote: > I have talked to vendors about building a TV head-end, but I’ve never done > it. I’m certain that everything you’re saying here is true,

Re: [AFMUG] Cellphone Plans

2024-09-20 Thread Dennis Burgess via AF
We use Verizon small business plan, 120 for the plan, 10 devices, you can hotspot etc, unlimited cell data (never found a limit nor have been speed restricted), but if you use 2 gig on the hotspot, it will slow down (course you can just build a tunnel and that will solve that). Each device is 2