I vaguely recall a marketing class using the example of 2 hot dog stands on a 
busy beach in summer. Optimum would be for them to be at the 1/3 and 2/3 
points, but instead they will locate right next to each other at the 
middle.Down the road will we see mergers and buyouts because there are too many 
choices? Like Sirius and XM, or now DirecTV and DISH? This town ain't big 
enough for the two of us?---- Original Message ----From: chuck@go-mtc.comSent: 
9/20/2024 10:29:26 AMTo: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Subject: Re: 
[AFMUG] race to the bottom?







Comcast is overbuilding fiber with fiber here.? In semi rural 
areas.? 
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From: Jim 
Bouse [Brazos WiFi] 
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2024 8:46 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] race to the bottom?
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I?m pretty sure it?s burning other people?s 
money.
Nextlink, for example is expanding their fixed wireless into 
a town nearby with 3 fiber providers.? WHY?! 
At best, they are going to get the 10-15% of the population 
that is ?never happy? and will end up spending so much time/money on truck 
rolls.I can kind-of understand overbuilding a town using fiber because 
that infrastructure lasts a LONG time.? Fixed wireless has a short life, 
comparatively.
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Jim 
Bouse
Brazos 
WiFi
979-999-7000
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From: AF 
<af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Ken HohhofSent: 
Friday, September 20, 2024 8:59 AMTo: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users 
Group' <af@af.afmug.com>Subject: [AFMUG] race to the 
bottom?
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I?m noticing some trends with the numbers for FWA that I 
can?t make sense out of.
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- monthly price is expected to be $30 to $50
- speed is expected to be 100M to 1G
- equipment cost is around $1000 per sub for AP+CPE (if you 
have at least 50-100 subs per tower)
- include a free router or mesh system
- throw in freebies like streaming, gift cards, reimburse 
cancellation fees, etc.
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I understand with fiber you probably have high take rate and 
low churn, and eventually make that investment back.? But with FWA, it 
seems like there will always be churn, and expensive CPE either not returned or 
having to be refurbished and reinstalled.? New owner might instead go with 
5G home Internet or Starlink or another WISP (people have lots of choices), or 
BEAD subsidized fiber and now you?ve probably lost that location permanently 
(unless you?re the one putting in the fiber).
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So is this a race to the bottom with other people?s 
money?? Or am I missing other revenue sources like ads, harvesting and 
selling data, bundled services?
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I get the same feeling as the early days of streaming when 
everybody was losing money to get market share, until the reckoning when they 
tried to turn a profit.? It also seemed that way in the 5G home Internet 
world with T-Mobile and Verizon offering promo pricing, then raising prices, 
but 
now they?re back to $30 and $50 prices.
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