Re: [AFMUG] Who installed this??

And, I think I would have used a different picture in my promotional video after I realized it was installed upside down Regards, David Coudron -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2020 6:30 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Su

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Jetpack

Local Fox news != Fox News - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Bill Prince" To: af@af.afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2020 4:20:25 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Jetpack Two thin

Re: [AFMUG] Who installed this??

I have some like that. Part of the reason to pay the extra money for Radiowaves dishes is they aren't like Ikea furniture, they come mostly assembled (and any remaining assembly is easy). And if you want it to mount on the left side of the pole, you flip it upside down and move the drain plugs, b

Re: [AFMUG] Who installed this??

Yes. > On Sep 2, 2020, at 8:19 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > I have some like that. Part of the reason to pay the extra money for > Radiowaves dishes is they aren't like Ikea furniture, they come mostly > assembled (and any remaining assembly is easy). > > And if you want it to mount on the left

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Vrrp

Yes - the VRRP should be a /32. Typical configuration looks like this: Router1: ether1: 192.168.1.2/24 vrrp.ether1: 192.168.1.1/32 Router2: ether1: 192.168.1.3/24 vrrp.ether1: 192.168.1.1/32 Your VRRP interface (192.168.1.1/32) should be a /32, and it should be on the same subnet as your "

Re: [AFMUG] Who installed this??

Maybe it's like "AMBULANCE" backwards so it reads correctly in a mirror. And explain to me why things in mirrors are backwards but not upside down. -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2020 7:29 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Gr

Re: [AFMUG] Who installed this??

Henry delivers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1t4dOPxKgrY On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 9:14 AM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Maybe it's like "AMBULANCE" backwards so it reads correctly in a mirror. > > > > [image: A close up of a fire oven Description automatically generated] > > > > And explain to me why thi

Re: [AFMUG] Who installed this??

We had some upside down because the plastic screws strip so easily On Wed, Sep 2, 2020, 8:23 AM Andrew Haninger wrote: > Henry delivers. > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1t4dOPxKgrY > > On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 9:14 AM Ken Hohhof wrote: > >> Maybe it's like "AMBULANCE" backwards so it reads corr

Re: [AFMUG] Who installed this??

OK, I’m gonna have to watch that again after some caffeine. From: AF On Behalf Of Andrew Haninger Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2020 8:23 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who installed this?? Henry delivers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1t4dOPxKgrY On W

Re: [AFMUG] Who installed this??

Me too. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 2, 2020, at 6:30 AM, Matt Hoppes > wrote: > > Yes. > >> On Sep 2, 2020, at 8:19 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >> >> I have some like that. Part of the reason to pay the extra money for >> Radiowaves dishes is they aren't like Ikea furniture, they come mostly

Re: [AFMUG] Who installed this??

That was really a mind bender to go through in the morning before coffee...  Kinda like doing college physics all over in your 60's... On 9/2/20 6:22 AM, Andrew Haninger wrote: Henry delivers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1t4dOPxKgrY On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 9:14 AM Ken Hohhof

Re: [AFMUG] Who installed this??

I think cable news has made us all stupid, we need the chyrons to explain it at an 8th grade level and tell us what to think. Seems like what he is saying is that we see ourselves in a mirror from the perspective of our side of the mirror, so basically from behind us. If our head was transp

Re: [AFMUG] Who installed this??

The simplest explanation is that the mirror doesn't flip left, right, up, or down; it simply reflects. It's us that flip left and right when we turn around. If we turned around by standing on our heads, the up/down would be reversed. bp On 9/2/2

Re: [AFMUG] Who installed this??

They come with the logo as stickers now. Pulls off real easy :) On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 8:19 AM Ken Hohhof wrote: > I have some like that. Part of the reason to pay the extra money for > > Radiowaves dishes is they aren't like Ikea furniture, they come mostly > > assembled (and any remaining ass

Re: [AFMUG] Ultra low latency PTP

Yeah we’re taking to them. It’s not HFT but similar idea. On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 2:07 PM Daniel White wrote: > > > > > Oh > > HFT. Fun stuff. > > Martins Dzelda at SAF is the guy to talk to. > martins.dze...@saftehnika.com > > Everything > > I could say is probably under NDA so nyet. > > >

[AFMUG] Zoom QoS

Is the a simple way to classify Zoom traffic for prioritizing it?  Like a layer7 match or matching a certain IP block. School is restarting soon (online) and I'm thinking this might be a hot item. -Adam -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Zoom QoS

zoom and google classroom are surprisingly resilient on their own. i dont know if its a school setting, or a default, but it seems it auto scales. I would actually be concerned about prioritizing it causing it to ramp up resolutions, etc and cause more net demand. unless maybe find the absolute min

Re: [AFMUG] Zoom QoS

Apparently they already set DSCP values to 56 for the audio and 40 for the video. Trusting DSCP from the Internet carries other dangers though (like Apple thinks iPhone software updates need expedited forwarding). On 9/2/2020 1:18 PM, Steve Jones wrote: zoom and google classroom are surprisi

Re: [AFMUG] Zoom QoS

If everything is Zoom, and you prioritize Zoom, you prioritize everything. It’s like everyone is a winner, but if nobody loses, what’s the point? I have observed that Zoom seems to use a little bit of TCP presumably a control channel and mostly UDP I think it’s on something like port 8801.

Re: [AFMUG] Who installed this??

Peel off and leave it or put your own on. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 2, 2020, at 10:41 AM, Caleb Knauer wrote: > >  > They come with the logo as stickers now. Pulls off real easy :) > >> On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 8:19 AM Ken Hohhof wrote: >> I have some like that. Part of the reason to pay t

Re: [AFMUG] Zoom QoS

Porn isn't zoom.at least not yet.  Maybe that's the next new normal. Netflix also isn't zoom. So if 5 kids using Zoom on a 3mbps connection is the problem then what you say is true.  If it's 1 or 2 kids competing with other households' Netflix and Chill then QoS can address that. On 9/2

[AFMUG] mediatemple geolocation

We got anew netblock back in January. Did the geolocation thing, havent gotten the full RIR IRR done with ARIN yet, they just went to online input, but i dont know Other than www.ipligence.com, all the ones on the brotherswisp list got updated way back then with geolocation. www.ipligence.com sti

Re: [AFMUG] Zoom QoS

we have one house with 5 remote learners, other than when theres a file getting uploaded, even on a small connection the mother ive been communicating with has said its been working flawlessly. is zoom related to skype in its back end? On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 1:33 PM Adam Moffett wrote: > Porn is

Re: [AFMUG] Who installed this??

best if you can get a nice foil sticker so it lasts longer On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 1:27 PM Chuck McCown wrote: > Peel off and leave it or put your own on. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Sep 2, 2020, at 10:41 AM, Caleb Knauer wrote: > >  > They come with the logo as stickers now. Pulls off real

Re: [AFMUG] Who installed this??

Now that I think of it, we’ve put up several 2 ft 11 GHz Radiowaves dishes this year and I don’t think any of them had logos on the radomes. Neither pre-applied nor in the box. We also put up some 1 ft 18 GHz Andrew/Commscope dishes and those also had no logo. No Andrew lightning bolt eith

Re: [AFMUG] Zoom QoS

I haven't had any specific problems with Zoombut looking at a situation for helping a local school district. I thought it might be useful to say that I *could* prioritize Zoom.  Whether or not I would really need to is less important than whether I can give them warm and fuzzy feelings abo

Re: [AFMUG] Who installed this??

we did a couple 11ghz mimosa links with 2 footers a couple years back, the logo was vinyl and blue at the time. On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 1:47 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Now that I think of it, we’ve put up several 2 ft 11 GHz Radiowaves dishes > this year and I don’t think any of them had logos on the

Re: [AFMUG] Zoom QoS

i wonder if setting a set QOS for zoom, like 1mbps, whatever is required for minimal acceptable performance, then prioritize that QOS. Tiered QOS would be dreamy, like as load increases overall minimum QOS decreases for that specific target, is that a thing? but then that sets resolution expectatio

Re: [AFMUG] Zoom QoS

In theory the upstream bandwidth could be a problem, because Zoom says they need a little over 1 Mbps both directions. What I’ve actually seen is adults working from home typically have a steady 1M symmetric during a video conference. School kids on the other hand are all over the map. The

Re: [AFMUG] Zoom QoS

Crush those expectations. https://www.gocomics.com/pearlsbeforeswine/2020/09/02 From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2020 1:57 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Zoom QoS i wonder if setting a set QOS for zoom, like 1mbps, whatev

Re: [AFMUG] Zoom QoS

then there is the "it doesnt work" kid whos the same kid that always is sick. reality is he just doesnt want to go to class On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 2:00 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > In theory the upstream bandwidth could be a problem, because Zoom says > they need a little over 1 Mbps both directions.

Re: [AFMUG] Zoom QoS

If client has video turned off then the upload is similar to a VoIP call. Apparently the downlink can vary quite a bit depending on what the presenter is doing.  Like audio only vs screen share vs video.  On top of that the video can auto train. So yeah lots of variance. On 9/2/2020 2:59 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] Zoom QoS

Yeah you're probably right. I was given results from a survey done by the school district where there are people in the middle of a mid-sized city reporting that they have "no service available" or "insufficient speed".  I felt like some of those "insufficient speed" people really have a tech

Re: [AFMUG] Zoom QoS

I just got off the phone with a parent who says their kids use Google Meet for classes. And some people have mentioned Microsoft Teams, but that was either for work or maybe college, I don’t think I’ve heard anybody say they are using Teams for K-12 classes. From: AF On Behalf Of Adam M

Re: [AFMUG] Who installed this??

I’ve got 3/4/6ft in front of me right now and they’re all vinyl sticker logo. They may have changed it earlier this year about the same time they stopped putting the 820 mounting brackets on. Now it’s separate box with some spacers etc. First round didn’t have any instructions and they weren’t on t

Re: [AFMUG] Zoom QoS

My daughter goes to an Idea College Prep charter school – she’s in 7th grade, and her school uses Microsoft Teams. My sons attend a local public school which won’t start classes until after Labor Day, and last year, they used a mess of tech: Zoom video conferences, Seesaw for parent/teacher feed

Re: [AFMUG] Who installed this??

Like this one we put up I think 2 years ago? From: AF On Behalf Of Caleb Knauer Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2020 2:55 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who installed this?? I’ve got 3/4/6ft in front of me right now and they’re all vinyl sticker logo. They

Re: [AFMUG] Who installed this??

Reverse polarity. Avoids all the interference from standard polarity. On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 6:31 AM Matt Hoppes < mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote: > I was just watching one of Rise Broadband's videos and there's a shot > where someone installed a RadioWaves radome upside down. > > That

Re: [AFMUG] Zoom QoS

Illinois has finally committed to defining the 13 criteria for kids home alone. they have always been so vague that there is no way to interpret them. specifically so i would guess to be able to have a different set of rules for a different set of people. one of them is worded something like leavi

Re: [AFMUG] Who installed this??

You just triggered me. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 2, 2020, at 2:25 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > >  > Like this one we put up I think 2 years ago? > > > > From: AF On Behalf Of Caleb Knauer > Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2020 2:55 PM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > Subject: Re: [AF

Re: [AFMUG] Who installed this??

Ok logo looks the same. Radome assembly is different now though. I thought about taking it apart and flipping but the oopsy risk was high. Way easier and safer to pull the sticker off and swap the drain plugs. We standardized on Radiowaves because they’re already assembled and stouter. Also stif

Re: [AFMUG] Who installed this??

Extreme XPIC. XXPIC. On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 4:39 PM Carl Peterson wrote: > Reverse polarity. Avoids all the interference from standard polarity. > > On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 6:31 AM Matt Hoppes < > mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote: > >> I was just watching one of Rise Broadband's videos a

Re: [AFMUG] Who installed this??

How about upside down AND peeling. From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2020 4:20 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who installed this?? You just triggered me. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 2, 2020, at 2:25 PM, Ken Hohhof mail

Re: [AFMUG] Zoom QoS

Let’s not forget that the kids or others in the home might have been doing large downloads at the same time trying to have these calls. Some of these game updates are massive and if they are running at the same time performance will surely suffer. Since the kids are home all day it is much more

Re: [AFMUG] Who installed this??

This was shot around where I live... that tower is an old LP Broadband tower.    I know it well.  The call center building they are showing is in Loveland. Tower is at 40.34714 -105.0052113 photograph Daniel White Co-Founder & Managing Director of Operations phone: +1 (702) 470-2770 direct:

Re: [AFMUG] Who installed this??

Look at RFS.  Over time while I was at SAF they turned into my favorite antenna vendor. When I was at SAF I sometimes worked directly with the antenna vendors as many of the ones SAF works with are headquartered in the US.  Commscope, RFS, and Radiowaves all had different ideas about costs for shi

Re: [AFMUG] Who installed this??

So perhaps LP Broadband did not care enough to change the logo around then. > On Sep 2, 2020, at 8:18 PM, Daniel White wrote: > >  > This was shot around where I live... that tower is an old LP Broadband tower. >I know it well. The call center building they are showing is in Loveland. >

Re: [AFMUG] Who installed this??

I don’t want to assemble antennas onsite, and if possible I don’t want a tower guy doing it because they do everything with channelocks and a pocket knife. So most of the time I end up doing it. And I just hate assembling Commscope dishes. Haven’t used RFS so maybe they are wonderful. A t