Crush those expectations.

 

https://www.gocomics.com/pearlsbeforeswine/2020/09/02

 

 

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2020 1:57 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Zoom QoS

 

i wonder if setting a set QOS for zoom, like 1mbps, whatever is required for 
minimal acceptable performance, then prioritize that QOS.

Tiered QOS would be dreamy, like as load increases overall minimum QOS 
decreases for that specific target, is that a thing?

but then that sets resolution expectations and when it has to throttle down, 
the complaints call.

I do that with my kids, start them with low expectations so it appears im 
always overperforming. Started feeding them ever other day, so then when i let 
them out of the cage to eat every day it was like they were getting the kings 
treatment

 

On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 1:50 PM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com 
<mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I haven't had any specific problems with Zoom....but looking at a situation for 
helping a local school district.

I thought it might be useful to say that I *could* prioritize Zoom.  Whether or 
not I would really need to is less important than whether I can give them warm 
and fuzzy feelings about it.

 

On 9/2/2020 2:41 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

we have one house with 5 remote learners, other than when theres a file getting 
uploaded, even on a small connection the mother ive been communicating with has 
said its been working flawlessly. is zoom related to skype in its back end?

 

On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 1:33 PM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com 
<mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Porn isn't zoom.....at least not yet.  Maybe that's the next new normal.

Netflix also isn't zoom.

So if 5 kids using Zoom on a 3mbps connection is the problem then what you say 
is true.  If it's 1 or 2 kids competing with other households' Netflix and 
Chill then QoS can address that.

 

On 9/2/2020 2:19 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

If everything is Zoom, and you prioritize Zoom, you prioritize everything.  
It’s like everyone is a winner, but if nobody loses, what’s the point?

 

I have observed that Zoom seems to use a little bit of TCP presumably a control 
channel and mostly UDP I think it’s on something like port 8801.  Not sure if 
you have 3 or 4 students in the same house and maybe 1 or 2 adults all Zooming, 
if additional ports get used, kind of like VoIP using 5060, 5061, 5062, etc.

 

From: AF  <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf 
Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2020 12:25 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Zoom QoS

 

Apparently they already set DSCP values to 56 for the audio and 40 for the 
video.

Trusting DSCP from the Internet carries other dangers though (like Apple thinks 
iPhone software updates need expedited forwarding).

 

On 9/2/2020 1:18 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

zoom and google classroom are surprisingly resilient on their own. i dont know 
if its a school setting, or a default, but it seems it auto scales. I would 
actually be concerned about prioritizing it causing it to ramp up resolutions, 
etc and cause more net demand. unless maybe find the absolute minimum 
requirements and QOS that as the min

 

On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 12:04 PM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com 
<mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Is the a simple way to classify Zoom traffic for prioritizing it?  Like 
a layer7 match or matching a certain IP block.

School is restarting soon (online) and I'm thinking this might be a hot 
item.

-Adam



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