Re: [AFMUG] New unlicensed spectrum

2020-04-24 Thread Mike Hammett
Of course not. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Tim Reichhart" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 9:29:29 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New unlicensed

Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

2020-04-24 Thread Dennis Burgess via AF
We have already placed our order, so 2 weeksish ? [LTI-Full_175px] Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE, MTCSE, HE IPv6 Sage, Cambium ePMP Certified Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition" Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services Offi

Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

2020-04-24 Thread Dennis Burgess via AF
Those are not available yet. They scuttlebutt is that there is no switch chip. [LTI-Full_175px] Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE, MTCSE, HE IPv6 Sage, Cambium ePMP Certified Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition" Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikroti

Re: [AFMUG] OT movie suggestions

2020-04-24 Thread Dennis Burgess via AF
TV Series: Mrs. Browns Boys Young Sheldon Dark Crystal The Expanse The Witcher The Magicians Chernobyl (HBO Documentary) Movies: Midway (2019) The Banker (2020) Made in Dagenham (2010) A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood (2019) [LTI-Full_175px] Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer MTCNA,

Re: [AFMUG] New unlicensed spectrum

2020-04-24 Thread Tim Hardy
Everyone on the unlicensed side is now claiming that this was their baby, but if you really want to do know where the influence came from - follow the lobbying and follow the money. Facebook, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple & Google spent over $16 million in 1st Qtr of 2020 - this thing didn't spring

Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

2020-04-24 Thread Dennis Burgess via AF
Don’t know yet as they have not published a block diagram or routing performance numbers. However, I would assume it would do just as good if not better than a 1072.. Course, that could be v7 as well, but don’t know yet. [LTI-Full_175px] Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer MTCNA, MTCRE,

[AFMUG] Track loaders

2020-04-24 Thread Craig House
Considering making a purchase of a track loader. I’m sure it’s a Chevy versus Ford versus Dodge sort of scenario but what is the opinions of anyone in this group as to which brand is best? If you have one how long have you had it and how much or often do you have to do repair work? Sent from my

Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

2020-04-24 Thread Steven Kenney
Ugh.. I was wondering when the 40Gbps version was coming out. 25 is kinda a black sheep in the industry. Good luck matching equipment with upstreams. I know they can get the cards but most are moving to 40 or 100. -- Steven Kenney Network Operations Manager WaveDirect Telecommunications htt

Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

2020-04-24 Thread Mike Hammett
25G will be far more common than 40G. 40G is dead and has been dead for years. I wish that wasn't so because I have a lot of 40G switches that I'd love to connect to things, but that's not going to happen. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange

Re: [AFMUG] Track loaders

2020-04-24 Thread Mike Hammett
Full size or compact? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Craig House" To: af@af.afmug.com Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 8:33:23 AM Subject: [AFMUG] Track loaders Considering making

Re: [AFMUG] Track loaders

2020-04-24 Thread Craig House
I’d like to stay with something around the 9000 pound range Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 24, 2020, at 08:43, Mike Hammett wrote: > >  > Full size or compact? > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > Midwest Internet Exchange > > The Brothers WISP > > > > > Fr

Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

2020-04-24 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Dennis,how many of these do you have on order? On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 9:42 AM Mike Hammett wrote: > 25G will be far more common than 40G. > > 40G is dead and has been dead for years. I wish that wasn't so because I > have a lot of 40G switches that I'd love to connect to things, but that's > no

Re: [AFMUG] Track loaders

2020-04-24 Thread Roland Houin
jcb teleskid. much safer, as you can get in and out of cab without going under/over bucket Roland > Considering making a purchase of a track loader. I’m sure it’s a Chevy versus Ford versus Dodge sort of scenario but what is the opinions of anyone in this group as to which brand is best? If you

Re: [AFMUG] billing

2020-04-24 Thread Josh Luthman
Mostly humor, but it's kinda true too. As Mike said - it's another one of his things. I'm surprised you haven't seen that, though it may not be too often in AFMUG. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 6:00 PM Ken

[AFMUG] OT business decorum

2020-04-24 Thread chuck
Had a vendor make a visit to my company a while back and during the visit he was dropping the F bomb left and right. I would have thought he would have toned it down as my wife was in the meeting. After he left I told a manufacturer’s rep about it and he contacted the guys boss and the next th

Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

2020-04-24 Thread Harold Bledsoe
It shows AL32400 so Annapurna labs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annapurna_Labs They were bought by Amazon a while back and make good CPUs. I'd guess performance will be pretty good. Most of these are architected with ARM cores + lots of hardware offload for doing routing and other such tasks.

Re: [AFMUG] billing

2020-04-24 Thread Ken Hohhof
I do find it interesting that one of the “improvements” that computer techs and IT guys typically apply is to change the DNS server to 8.8.8.8. I’ve also had PCI auditors tell the customer to change their DNS server to 8.8.8.8 in order to pass the audit. And it’s getting so apps and browsers s

[AFMUG] anybody got any airfiber 5x for sell?

2020-04-24 Thread Tim Reichhart
Does anybody have any airfiber 5x for sell?   -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT business decorum

2020-04-24 Thread Colin Stanners
It's not just the business world or a physical area, I noticed that a small but vocal percentage of the population, often young, has started to use the F-word excessively in a few contexts, trying to be "edgy" or showing that they don't care about others' opinions. When I've commented on it the res

Re: [AFMUG] OT business decorum

2020-04-24 Thread Nate Burke
I don't talk that way, so It puts me off when I'm around people that do. I'll admit that I will judge a person based on how they're speaking. Having not used that language, I will say that it seems that is becoming the 'normal' Even when visiting customers now, those words just are in their

Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

2020-04-24 Thread Steven Kenney
That is up for debate but we'll see in a few years. I'd rather jump to 40 than 25. You almost defeated your own point stating you have a lot of 40G laying around. Price has come down on them and transceivers are not as expensive either. Personally I'd rather jump to 100 :) 40G transceivers I c

Re: [AFMUG] Track loaders

2020-04-24 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
They are probably all just as good as the other, the big thing is going to be service and parts availability. Our closest implement store and service center is John Deere and they tend to have a really good supply chain for parts. On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 10:36 AM Roland Houin wrote: > jcb telesk

Re: [AFMUG] anybody got any airfiber 5x for sell?

2020-04-24 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
sending you an email offlist On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 11:01 AM Tim Reichhart < timreichh...@hometowncable.net> wrote: > Does anybody have any airfiber 5x for sell? > > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmu

Re: [AFMUG] OT business decorum

2020-04-24 Thread chuck
On a tech type you tube video, I normally feel safe enough having them on when my grandkids are around. Normally... From: Nate Burke Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 9:04 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT business decorum I don't talk that way, so It puts me off when

Re: [AFMUG] OT business decorum

2020-04-24 Thread Ken Hohhof
I don’t think it is now or has ever been appropriate for a sales rep to use that kind of language. Other language like racial and ethnic jokes may have changed over time, but it’s just plain stupid for a sales person to use offensive language. Trying to set language standards for a video bl

Re: [AFMUG] OT business decorum

2020-04-24 Thread David Coudron
Things appear to be changing over time, however, I don’t think it is appropriate in a business setting. I recently completed a 5 year consulting project for Wells Fargo and 3 years of work before that for Best Buy’s corporate IT group. It is definitely not common place and not looked at as

Re: [AFMUG] OT business decorum

2020-04-24 Thread Jay Weekley
If it's not going to help you make the sale then don't say it. Ken Hohhof wrote: I don’t think it is now or has ever been appropriate for a sales rep to use that kind of language. Other language like racial and ethnic jokes may have changed over time, but it’s just plain stupid for a sales pe

[AFMUG] That Darn Cat!

2020-04-24 Thread Nate Burke
Just got a call from a customer "Our cat just sat on the desk waiting for me to walk into the room, and then barfed in the router. Nowhere else, except for squarely into the router" -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT business decorum

2020-04-24 Thread Craig House
I don’t use that kind of language especially in a business environment. It’s one thing to be hanging on a tower with guys that speak that way on a daily basis it’s quite another to be in a conference room or meeting a client and have someone using that kind of language. If I was making a decisio

Re: [AFMUG] OT business decorum

2020-04-24 Thread Steve Jones
Ive noticed this trend, not just from the young. I dont sit in a whole lot of board meetings given my nobody status, but i have found myself dragged into them periodically. Im always somewhat floored when a profession drops an fbomb in particular. Im a lowlife, so in my regular life i swear alot, b

Re: [AFMUG] That Darn Cat!

2020-04-24 Thread Steven Kenney
Yeah cats tend to get up and into everything in the house. Why I don't have them as pets. A dog would just chew it and the wires .. -- Steven Kenney Network Operations Manager WaveDirect Telecommunications http://www.wavedirect.net (519)737-WAVE (9283) From: "Nate Burke" To: "af" Sen

Re: [AFMUG] That Darn Cat!

2020-04-24 Thread chuck
Back when I was a young telephone repairman, I had a repeated service call to a place the used to be a barbershop but was turned into an apartment. Weird young guy there had it full of cats. The cats kept chewing the line cord off the phone. The smell was so bad that I would hold my breath, g

Re: [AFMUG] That Darn Cat!

2020-04-24 Thread Steve Jones
we found 2 fresh kittens in my dads shop, brought them home for the daughter to keep her occupied through the siege of governor/president pissing contest we are experiencing here in illinois. my pitbull apparently thinks she is their mother, and pit bulls are clean animals, she is licking and flipp

Re: [AFMUG] OT business decorum

2020-04-24 Thread James Howard
In the immortal words of Curly in response to the question “do you solemnly swear”……. “No, but I know all the woids”. About 25 years ago I was working for a large company as a network engineer and was training a new guy that we had hired for one of the plants out east. He was at our main faci

Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

2020-04-24 Thread Gilbert Gutierrez
Dave... I have two 1072s in my network and I have had issues with both units and perceived random reboots. I am not a fan and buying something else to replace them. Gilbert On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 1:04 PM dave wrote: > My thoughts exactly because Im looking at replacing my powerv4 with a 1072 >

Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

2020-04-24 Thread Ken Hohhof
I’m going by memory which in my case is dangerous, but I think the 1100AHx4 and 4011 already use Annapurna Labs devices. I assume this one is on steroids. From: AF On Behalf Of Harold Bledsoe Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 10:00 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

2020-04-24 Thread Mike Hammett
I have switches around, but I can't get transport or upstream connections with them without subsidizing the purchase of the card. As someone that has a lot of 40G and wishes that 40G wasn't dead, it is unless you have total control of the infrastructure. 40G is 4x10G and (modern) 100G is 4x

Re: [AFMUG] OT business decorum

2020-04-24 Thread Gilbert Gutierrez
As you see the words used more and more in movies, music, etc. (Entertainment) you see them used in regular settings. Movies like to push the envelope. Music that younger people listen to tends to come from more economically depressed areas where you hear the words more often. We are all getting ol

Re: [AFMUG] That Darn Cat!

2020-04-24 Thread Ken Hohhof
The kittens will grow up thinking they are pit bulls. Remember the news coverage of the kitten raised by Huskies? Thought it was a diminutive Husky. From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 10:43 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] That Darn C

Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

2020-04-24 Thread Darin Steffl
Gilbert, We have three 1072s and none of them randomly reboot. I suggest you make sure they're on stable power and use ONLY the latest Long-Term release. Do not use Stable, testing, or development branches. If you give Mikrotiks good firmware, they are great but I see too many people using the St

Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

2020-04-24 Thread Harold Bledsoe
And just to comment from a product standpoint on why 25G will become more common... To Mike's point, 40G is made with 4x 10G meaning it eats up 4 SERDES on a chip. 25G uses 1 SERDES that runs faster and 100G is made again with 4x of the 25G SERDES. Now that 25G capable SERDES is more prolific on

Re: [AFMUG] billing

2020-04-24 Thread Darin Steffl
To be fair, Cloudflare is only 3.0ms away from us and that's not a lot of additional latency, particular considering that their cache is likely much larger than ours. So their cache hit % should be much higher than ours. I also trust Cloudflare to have more people working on their DNS infrastructur

Re: [AFMUG] OT business decorum

2020-04-24 Thread Mike Hammett
Some people with speech impediments have adapted to use filler words instead of their stutter or whatever afflicts them. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "David Coudron" To: "AnimalF

Re: [AFMUG] billing

2020-04-24 Thread Mike Hammett
"I'm not sure why that is still being preached." Multiple CDNs specifically require it and state as much in their peering or cache server documentation. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - F

Re: [AFMUG] OT business decorum

2020-04-24 Thread Robert
It's and indicator of respect of those around you...  & usually comes down from how you were raised.   Someone that is going to use that word around people you are not closely familiar with isn't going to try and understand anyone else in the meeting, excepting their superiors ( which the custo

Re: [AFMUG] billing

2020-04-24 Thread Cassidy B. Larson
Which CDNs require it? I know Google, Apple and Netflix don’t matter they use the source IP of the requestor not the DNS. Akamai is still old-school hasn’t figured out this new-generation of DNS like the new kids on the block have. However, with Akamai pulling all their caches that are serving <

Re: [AFMUG] That Darn Cat!

2020-04-24 Thread dave
LOL! I loved my cat he was skittish around other people unfamiliar to the family unit. We had him before his eyes opened and bottle fed him. He only knew the home as his world nothing more. He never scratched furniture or chewed on things he shouldn't. He only came around to get acknowledgement

Re: [AFMUG] billing

2020-04-24 Thread Ken Hohhof
That sounds like the greylisting fans who claim email senders are required to retry again within 15 minutes from the same IP address. Sure. And in the real world … Remember the story about the ship captain ordering the lighthouse to change course? From: AF On Behalf Of Mike Hammett

Re: [AFMUG] billing

2020-04-24 Thread Mike Hammett
I have seen this on Google, Netflix, and I believe Akamai. Our Akamai node is getting upgraded to a 40G node. :-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Cassidy B. Larson" To: "Animal

Re: [AFMUG] billing

2020-04-24 Thread Mike Hammett
If they tell me specifically that they require it, who am I to argue? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Ken Hohhof" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Friday, April 24, 20

Re: [AFMUG] billing

2020-04-24 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 4/24/20 9:40 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: That sounds like the greylisting fans who claim email senders are required to retry again within 15 minutes from the same IP address. Sure.  And in the real world … Greylsiting is highly effective against a specific set of spew sources: compromised mac

Re: [AFMUG] That Darn Cat!

2020-04-24 Thread Colin Stanners
In the past we used non-armoured fiber for house installs, and there are cases where we can't put the fiber CPE in a utilitity room/closet, so it would be on a desk somewhere with the fiber line near the floor and more easily damaged. We had a customer who had many uncontrolled cats... Visited tha

Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

2020-04-24 Thread Dennis Burgess via AF
Quite a few.. [LTI-Full_175px] Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE, MTCSE, HE IPv6 Sage, Cambium ePMP Certified Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition” Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://w

[AFMUG] OT: Manlift for aerial work

2020-04-24 Thread Jason McKemie
I need a manlift for stringing some fiber. I'm going the maximum height without being in the power zone (40" below neutral). Has anyone used a standard articulating manlift for something like this? They aren't insulated (other than the tires) which concerns me a bit, even though I'll be well bel

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Manlift for aerial work

2020-04-24 Thread Jay Weekley
We've used the towable versions. Jason McKemie wrote: I need a manlift for stringing some fiber. I'm going the maximum height without being in the power zone (40" below neutral). Has anyone used a standard articulating manlift for something like this? They aren't insulated (other than the tir

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Manlift for aerial work

2020-04-24 Thread Steve Jones
" which concerns me a bit, even though I'll be well below the neutral" never stop being concerned The cable company has a mix of boom trucks and van mount booms. Id like to try one of the van ones, but i think the base takes up the bulk of the cargo area. I just like the idea of driving it right w

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Manlift for aerial work

2020-04-24 Thread chuck
I use a bucket truck. From: Jason McKemie Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 11:42 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Manlift for aerial work I need a manlift for stringing some fiber. I'm going the maximum height without being in the power zone (40" below neutral). Has

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Manlift for aerial work

2020-04-24 Thread chuck
I used to build aerial with hooks, brace and bit and wrenches. Pulled the lasher by hand etc. Can be done. From: Steve Jones Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 12:09 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Manlift for aerial work " which concerns me a bit, even though I'

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Manlift for aerial work

2020-04-24 Thread Craig House
I second the bucket truck. I found one for five years and it’s amazing that uses that you can find for in the places that you can get one of them into that you couldn’t get into with a tow behind Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 24, 2020, at 13:12, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: > >  > I used to build ae

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Manlift for aerial work

2020-04-24 Thread Mark Radabaugh
I don’t see any reason it wouldn’t work. For what it’s worth the ‘correct’ vehicle for this is a ’Telstra’ or ‘Placer’ style of boom truck. These are the trucks that have a boom that can accept the side loading of pulling cable while being driven down the road with a person in the bucket.

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Manlift for aerial work

2020-04-24 Thread Jason McKemie
I'm framing from a ladder, and could use a ladder to string, but I'm hanging adss and am not sure I'm going to be able to get the grip off of the cable from a ladder. Plus the man lift just seems a lot more stable. A bucket truck would be best, but I can't find those for rent. On Friday, April 24,

Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

2020-04-24 Thread Steven Kenney
Were you ever able to pin down certain times/situations when you'd get the random reboot? I've experienced this too, nothing in the console, logs, nothing. Supout had nothing as well. Its completely random however it does tend to happen when there is higher amount of traffic. -- Steven Kenney

Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

2020-04-24 Thread Sean Heskett
Hi Steve, We were having random reboots on some CCR1036s and we finally solved the issue by downclocking the CPU to 1000 (they run at 1200 out of the box). down clocking them didn't really impact performance other than they stopped randomly rebooting lol. -sean On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 12:44 P

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Manlift for aerial work

2020-04-24 Thread Mark Radabaugh
Keep in mind the majority of bucket trucks will not let you use the bucket unless the truck is stopped with the outriggers extended. Using this for stringing is painful - park, outriggers, in the bucket, do your work, down, out, outriggers, move, and repeat.Efficiency is not good. You a

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Manlift for aerial work

2020-04-24 Thread Jay Weekley
I wouldn't look forward to having to hook a towable lift each time I had to go to a different pole either. Mark Radabaugh wrote: Keep in mind the majority of bucket trucks will not let you use the bucket unless the truck is stopped with the outriggers extended. Using this for stringing is p

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Manlift for aerial work

2020-04-24 Thread Steve Jones
does no one know how to walk on stilts these days? On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 2:25 PM Jay Weekley wrote: > I wouldn't look forward to having to hook a towable lift each time I had > to go to a different pole either. > > Mark Radabaugh wrote: > > Keep in mind the majority of bucket trucks will not l

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Manlift for aerial work

2020-04-24 Thread Jay Weekley
I think you're it. Are you for hire? Steve Jones wrote: does no one know how to walk on stilts these days? On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 2:25 PM Jay Weekley wrote: I wouldn't look forward to having to hook a towable lift each time I had to go to a different pole either. Mark Radabaugh wrote: Ke

Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

2020-04-24 Thread Gilbert Gutierrez
I have not found out the source. I may try Sean's clocking idea. Gilbert On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 11:44 AM Steven Kenney wrote: > Were you ever able to pin down certain times/situations when you'd get the > random reboot? I've experienced this too, nothing in the console, logs, > nothing. Su

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Manlift for aerial work

2020-04-24 Thread Steve Jones
youre in alabama? if I start drinking now, by the time you get here to pick me up and we get back to alabama i should have the right proper BAC for stilt hanging fiber. we will build out that network right quick On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 2:37 PM Jay Weekley wrote: > I think you're it. Are you for

Re: [AFMUG] OT business decorum

2020-04-24 Thread Bill Prince
I don't claim to be pure as the driven snow, but I also don't generally use that kind of language. It sure does affect my judgement of a person who talks that way. You have to admit, that the F-word is a pretty universal word. It can be a noun, verb, adjective, ad

Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

2020-04-24 Thread Gilbert Gutierrez
Sean, In my investigation on possibly following your suggestions, I found that the 1072 appears to be fixed at 1000. It was an idea . Gilbert On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 12:00 PM Sean Heskett wrote: > Hi Steve, > > We were having random reboots on some CCR1036s and we finally solved the > issue by

Re: [AFMUG] OT business decorum

2020-04-24 Thread Caleb Knauer
My day to day language is admittedly pretty salty, especially when tired or after a few beverages. Must be my inner grumpy redneck. But you have to be able to flip that switch when you're in a professional setting unless you've bonded with someone of a like mind. The new sales reps are surprised

Re: [AFMUG] Tacos de Rez y papa asada. With all the trimmings

2020-04-24 Thread Steve Jones
imma need to have this On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 4:33 PM Jaime Solorza wrote: > Chile California y jalapeno, cebolla, cilantro y ravanos > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman

Re: [AFMUG] New unlicensed spectrum

2020-04-24 Thread Caleb Knauer
ULS is gonna have to get way more gerbils, it barely runs on a good day. On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 8:25 AM Tim Hardy wrote: > > Everyone on the unlicensed side is now claiming that this was their baby, but > if you really want to do know where the influence came from - follow the > lobbying and f

Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

2020-04-24 Thread Sean Heskett
Hi Gilbert, Yeah our issues were on the 1036. The 1072s have been pretty stable. We also had an NTP issue but I can’t remember all the details of that one. Since nothing is showing in your logs id look at environmental issues, but it seems heat Probably isn’t your issue. -Sean On Fri, Apr 24

Re: [AFMUG] New unlicensed spectrum

2020-04-24 Thread Caleb Knauer
The majority of broadcast TV and radio STL replacements I've been involved with have been 6Ghz due to distances to transmitter towers and fade margins. Those aren't going away, and they have a pretty big voice with the feds. AFC feels like it could be quite the boondoggle. But we shall see. On F

Re: [AFMUG] OT Fun

2020-04-24 Thread Caleb Knauer
Noticing more and more buzz cuts in our video meetings lately. Luckily summer time makes it more feasible. On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 3:08 PM wrote: > > When I get a crew cut am I appropriating skin head culture? > > -Original Message- > From: Jay Weekley > Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 12:

Re: [AFMUG] Tacos de Rez y papa asada. With all the trimmings

2020-04-24 Thread Jaime Solorza
Can't ship it...has to be fresh On Fri, Apr 24, 2020, 3:37 PM Steve Jones wrote: > imma need to have this > > On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 4:33 PM Jaime Solorza > wrote: > >> Chile California y jalapeno, cebolla, cilantro y ravanos >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/m

Re: [AFMUG] OT Fun

2020-04-24 Thread chuck
Barbershops and hair parlors are all closed out here. Too much longer and I will give myself a buzz. -Original Message- From: Caleb Knauer Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 3:48 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Fun Noticing more and more buzz cuts in our

Re: [AFMUG] OT Fun

2020-04-24 Thread James Howard
If the hair parlors open first will you go get a perm? From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 5:06 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Fun Barbershops and hair parlors are all closed out here. Too much longe

Re: [AFMUG] OT Fun

2020-04-24 Thread Steve Jones
My wife is a hairdresser, I'll trade you all some haircuts for some force 300-25s On Fri, Apr 24, 2020, 5:09 PM James Howard wrote: > If the hair parlors open first will you go get a perm? > > > > *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com > *Sent:* Friday, April

Re: [AFMUG] New unlicensed spectrum

2020-04-24 Thread Jaime Solorza
Yep...I help maintain two long 6GHz STLs for a Christian Radio station...El Paso to Las Cruces, Las Cruces to tower on mountain above Hatch , NM.. On Fri, Apr 24, 2020, 3:47 PM Caleb Knauer wrote: > The majority of broadcast TV and radio STL replacements I've been > involved with have been 6Ghz

Re: [AFMUG] OT business decorum

2020-04-24 Thread Ken Hohhof
Anybody else remember a comic in the newspaper called “Rick O’Shay”? Rick would launch into a stream of pseudo swear words like “son of a badger pup”. From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 3:56 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT business decorum I don

Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

2020-04-24 Thread Trey Scarborough
you are only comparing SFP transceiver cost. The reason why it is dead is transport equipment and switch equipment you pretty much are burning a 100G port to do 40g there are some 100G 2x40 transponders out there but they are the same cost as a 200G 2x100G transponder so if you go to order a 40

Re: [AFMUG] OT Fun

2020-04-24 Thread James Howard
I told my kids we were going to shave all their heads since they can't go anywhere anyway. The 10 year old didn't seem to care but the girls definitely got upset about it. From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 5:24 PM To: AnimalFarm

Re: [AFMUG] OT Fun

2020-04-24 Thread Jay Weekley
Is it hard to give yourself a buzz? Have you done it before? ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Barbershops and hair parlors are all closed out here. Too much longer and I will give myself a buzz. -Original Message- From: Caleb Knauer Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 3:48 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwav

Re: [AFMUG] OT Fun

2020-04-24 Thread chuck
Wouldn’t be the first time... hello 1977... From: James Howard Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 4:08 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Fun If the hair parlors open first will you go get a perm? From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.co

Re: [AFMUG] OT Fun

2020-04-24 Thread chuck
Super easy. Just put on a #2 guard and start mowing. -Original Message- From: Jay Weekley Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 4:53 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Fun Is it hard to give yourself a buzz? Have you done it before? ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Ba

Re: [AFMUG] OT Fun

2020-04-24 Thread Ken Hohhof
Rent G.I. Jane. Or Aliens 3. Didn't they buzz Sigourney Weaver's head for lice or something in the movie? I'm sure this will all make your daughters much happier about the idea. https://www.realstylenetwork.com/celebrities/2012/07/5-actresses-who-cut-off -their-hair-for-films/ https://www.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Fun

2020-04-24 Thread Ken Hohhof
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Flowbee-vintage-home-haircutting-system-hair-cut-in -box/373030481273?hash=item56da596d79:g:nvsAAOSwcLleodKp -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 5:56 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] O

Re: [AFMUG] OT Fun

2020-04-24 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
Unless you are going all in without a guard, it’s helpful to have someone who get get the back of your neck for you. My wife is 5’3” and I’m over 6’2”...I have to kneel, which she believes is my proper position before her! :-) Jeff Broadwick CTIconnect 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbr

Re: [AFMUG] New unlicensed spectrum

2020-04-24 Thread Caleb Knauer
Last few we did were all 20+ miles. On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 6:33 PM Jaime Solorza wrote: > > Yep...I help maintain two long 6GHz STLs for a Christian Radio station...El > Paso to Las Cruces, Las Cruces to tower on mountain above Hatch , NM.. > > On Fri, Apr 24, 2020, 3:47 PM Caleb Knauer wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] New unlicensed spectrum

2020-04-24 Thread Bill Prince
At some point, the WDC (Whole D*** Country) is going to have to figure out how to get our government's IT infrastructure out of the stone age. I would not be surprised to hear ULS is running a COBOL program in a PDP-11. bp On 4/24/2020 2:37 PM, Caleb Knauer wrote: ULS is gonna have to get w

Re: [AFMUG] OT Fun

2020-04-24 Thread Jay Weekley
The day is coming. ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Super easy. Just put on a #2 guard and start mowing. -Original Message- From: Jay Weekley Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 4:53 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Fun Is it hard to give yourself a buzz? Have you done

Re: [AFMUG] OT Fun

2020-04-24 Thread Jay Weekley
That's one of the best prices I've seen. Ken Hohhof wrote: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Flowbee-vintage-home-haircutting-system-hair-cut-in -box/373030481273?hash=item56da596d79:g:nvsAAOSwcLleodKp -- *Jay Weekley* *Cyber Broadband * -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.a

Re: [AFMUG] OT Fun

2020-04-24 Thread Ken Hohhof
https://dilbert.com/search_results?terms=Neal -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick - Lists Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 6:00 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Fun Unless you are going all in without a guard, it’s helpful to have someone

[AFMUG] suction cup mounts

2020-04-24 Thread Ken Hohhof
Apparently Ubiquiti made a mounting bracket for attacking a Nanostation to a window with suction cups. Was the Nanostation supposed to go on the outside of the window, or the inside shooting through the glass? I ask because we have now encountered 2 competitor installs shooting through the gla

Re: [AFMUG] suction cup mounts

2020-04-24 Thread chuck
Low E glass blocks most of the RF. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 6:22 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: [AFMUG] suction cup mounts Apparently Ubiquiti made a mounting bracket for attacking a Nanostation to a window with suction cups. Was the Nanostation sup

Re: [AFMUG] suction cup mounts

2020-04-24 Thread Colin Stanners
I think it's only been in the last dozen years that the low-E glass that blocks RF has gotten popular. At least around here, few places have it other than brand-new houses. On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 7:23 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Apparently Ubiquiti made a mounting bracket for attacking a Nanostation

Re: [AFMUG] suction cup mounts

2020-04-24 Thread David Coudron
We tried those a couple of times for relays on farmyards. We found that the suctions cups did not hold the radio up for very long. Usually within a couple of months, the suction cup would release and the radio would fall. Seemed like a good idea, but in practice, it just didn't work well.

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