I have switches around, but I can't get transport or upstream connections with 
them without subsidizing the purchase of the card. As someone that has a lot of 
40G and wishes that 40G wasn't dead, it is unless you have total control of the 
infrastructure. 




40G is 4x10G and (modern) 100G is 4x25G. Yes, before it was 10x10, but that 
changed as it was too inefficient. 


In a single channel, you can run either 10G or 25G. In four channels, you can 
run 40G or 100G. 




If we can't get 100G at 1310 nm to work at the distances we need, we're likely 
going to go Nx25G in DWDM. 




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Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




----- Original Message -----

From: "Steven Kenney" <st...@wavedirect.org> 
To: "af" <af@af.afmug.com> 
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 10:07:16 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out 



That is up for debate but we'll see in a few years. I'd rather jump to 40 than 
25. You almost defeated your own point stating you have a lot of 40G laying 
around. Price has come down on them and transceivers are not as expensive 
either. Personally I'd rather jump to 100 :) 


40G transceivers I can get for most models for $55. (short range) Same price 
for 25G! Why bother with 25? 
Short range 100G are under $200 each. 




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----- Original Message -----

From: "Kurt Fankhauser" <lists.wavel...@gmail.com> 
To: "af" <af@af.afmug.com> 
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 10:03:36 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out 




Dennis,how many of these do you have on order? 


On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 9:42 AM Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: 




25G will be far more common than 40G. 

40G is dead and has been dead for years. I wish that wasn't so because I have a 
lot of 40G switches that I'd love to connect to things, but that's not going to 
happen. 




----- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 






From: "Steven Kenney" < st...@wavedirect.org > 
To: "af" < af@af.afmug.com > 
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 8:38:00 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out 



Ugh.. I was wondering when the 40Gbps version was coming out. 25 is kinda a 
black sheep in the industry. Good luck matching equipment with upstreams. I 
know they can get the cards but most are moving to 40 or 100. 

-- 
Steven Kenney 
Network Operations Manager 
WaveDirect Telecommunications 
http://www.wavedirect.net 
(519)737-WAVE (9283) 


From: "af" < af@af.afmug.com > 
To: "af" < af@af.afmug.com > 
Cc: "Dennis Burgess" < dmburg...@linktechs.net > 
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 2:17:51 PM 
Subject: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out 







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