, February 25, 2020 10:04 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Kobe and helicopters
Is this public information?
bp
On 2/25/2020 9:02 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
Yes, they have radar info showing almost the entire last 5 minutes of the
flight.
From: Bill Prince
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> On 2/25/2020 9:02 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
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> Yes, they have radar info showing
news I suppose.
*From:* Bill Prince
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*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Kobe and helicopters
Is this public information?
bp
On 2/25/2020 9:02 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
Yes, they have radar info showing almost the entire last 5 minutes of
It was part of a news piece I read. They had a very nice graphic. Not sure
where I saw it. Could have been fake news I suppose.
From: Bill Prince
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2020 10:04 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Kobe and helicopters
Is this public information?
bp
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From: Bill
Prince
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2020 10:00 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Kobe and helicopters
Where
Yes, they have radar info showing almost the entire last 5 minutes of the
flight.
From: Bill Prince
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2020 10:00 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Kobe and helicopters
Where are you getting the information on the flight profile?
bp
On 2/25/2020 8
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From: Cameron
Crum
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2020 9:11 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users
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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Kobe and helicopters
Crum
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2020 9:11 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Kobe and helicopters
A good friend of mine flew helos in the Army and is rated on everything from
Apaches to Chinooks, and is now a helo pilot instructor. After looking at the
FAA video and
thing outside.
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>> From: "Bill Prince"
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>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Kobe and helicopters
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>> The Sikorsky S-76B is a big bird. Not cheap. Maybe 10 to 13 m
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*From: *"Bill Prince"
*To: *"af"
*Sent: *Monday, February 24, 2020 2:04:32 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Kobe
It was a charter flight with a fully IFR capable a/c that was only
_rated_ for VFR through the charter company..
On 2/24/20 10:47 AM, Steven Kenney wrote:
Doubt it. It was poor decision after poor decision. Should never have
flown. Mist rolling in from the hills could obscure things below 1
One point about the the autopilot, it requires a minimum forward speed,
which I believe was about 60 knots. I believe he went below that at one
point just before the turn, climb and then decent. He was only 50-100
feet below the reported tops when the decent and increase in speed
started wit
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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Kobe and helicopters
Tight circling while waiting for a
clearance followed by a rapid acceleration and climb is a
textbook recipe for vertigo and spatial disorientation. I’m
Choose your experts based on their profile pictures.
https://dilbert.com/strip/2020-02-23
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From: AF On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2020 2:54 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Kobe and helicopters
They're basically wrong on any
I only got it bad once. Just trusted the instruments until I got out of the
clouds.
From: Ken Hohhof
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2020 1:56 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Kobe and helicopters
I’m clearly not cut out for any of this. I get ve
I’m clearly not cut out for any of this. I get vertigo just driving over an
interstate overpass on a foggy day.
From: AF On Behalf Of Mark Radabaugh
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2020 2:44 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Kobe and helicopters
Tight circling
They're basically wrong on any topic with any technical nuance at all.
On 2/24/2020 3:43 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote:
The media is always idiotic when it comes to flying
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> You'd never catch me flying in a chopper IFR unelss I had some sort of
> terrain following radar or radar altimeter. Too many wind towers,
> powerli
t, if you get in trouble, fess up and start
to climb.
From: Steven
Kenney
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2020 11:47 AM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG]
12:17 PM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Kobe and helicopters
You'd never catch me flying in a chopper IFR unelss I had some sort of terrain
following radar or radar altimeter. Too many wind towers, powerlines, and
those pesky telecom towers ..
I've flown with real chopper pilot
: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Kobe and helicopters
Doubt it. It was poor decision after poor decision. Should never have flown.
Mist rolling in from the hills could obscure things below 1 mile easily.
Choppers and mountains don't mix with all the updrafts and unpredictable wind
patterns. E
onday, February 24, 2020 2:04:32 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Kobe and helicopters
The Sikorsky S-76B is a big bird. Not cheap. Maybe 10 to 13 million depending
on condition.
I suspect this has some parallels to the thing with Bill Graham 20 years ago or
something. I think Graham pressur
The Sikorsky S-76B is a big bird. Not cheap. Maybe 10 to 13
million depending on condition.
I suspect this has some parallels to the thing with Bill Graham
20 years ago or something. I think Graham pressured the pilot to
fly even though the conditions were not very
Doubt it. It was poor decision after poor decision. Should never have flown.
Mist rolling in from the hills could obscure things below 1 mile easily.
Choppers and mountains don't mix with all the updrafts and unpredictable wind
patterns. ESPECIALLY downdrafts. (I like to fly the Huey in DCS and
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