Re: [AFMUG] Forrest- Paketflux cable lengths

The problem with that site is that it's old, hard to find the right information, needs pictures, and needs to extract useful information like that into some sort of easier to find format. I don't fault you for not finding it... It's hard to find, and is buried. Plus, I'm ok with responding with t

Re: [AFMUG] Forrest- Paketflux cable lengths

I didnt see F&@(>n cable length, so I assumed it wasn't documented On Tue, Jun 16, 2020, 10:31 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) < li...@packetflux.com> wrote: > Well, in a rare case where there is a FM, the length of the cable is > covered in the manual: > > http://manuals.packetflux.com/index

Re: [AFMUG] Forrest- Paketflux cable lengths

Reinvent The Frequency Modulation Revisit The Far Mountains Rape The Franciscan Monks Revenge The Florentine Mafia Rob Two Floridian Men Rankle Turd Flinging Monkeys So many ways to RTFM and none work without the FM. On 6/16/2020 11:18 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: RTFM doesn’t work so well if

Re: [AFMUG] Forrest- Paketflux cable lengths

Well, in a rare case where there is a FM, the length of the cable is covered in the manual: http://manuals.packetflux.com/index.php?page=cabling-the-expansion-bus Although I'm not sure that the G rated version of 'RTFM' would apply in this case. On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 9:18 PM Chuck McCown wrot

Re: [AFMUG] Forrest- Paketflux cable lengths

RTFM doesn’t work so well if there is no FM. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 16, 2020, at 8:35 PM, Steve Jones wrote: > >  > Can it be filled with cuss words? I'll send a resume if I get to cuss > >> On Tue, Jun 16, 2020, 6:25 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) >> wrote: >> You should be fine

Re: [AFMUG] zero rating and unlimited data

Beyond Unlimited, Above Unlimited, and Go Unlimited are obsolete. Now it’s Start Unlimited, Play More Unlimited, Do More Unlimited and Get More Unlimited. https://www.verizon.com/support/compare-unlimited/ Or for AT&T it’s Unlimited Starter, Unlimited Extra, or Unlimited Elite. https:

Re: [AFMUG] Forrest- Paketflux cable lengths

Can it be filled with cuss words? I'll send a resume if I get to cuss On Tue, Jun 16, 2020, 6:25 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) < li...@packetflux.com> wrote: > You should be fine to run those a dozen feet or so. Shouldn't be a > problem with what you're describing. > > You never know, you

Re: [AFMUG] TVWS feasibility

Lord I hope not. That company did more damage to whitespace than the FCC. Mark > On Jun 16, 2020, at 3:38 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: > > Does Carlson still make it? > > From: Adam Moffett <> > Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:27 PM > To: <>af@af.afmug.com > Subject: R

Re: [AFMUG] zero rating and unlimited data

Hmm… and who here is actually selling truly “unlimited” AT&T plans? (ours are not unlimited currently) If so, I would appreciate your point of contact to get those SIMs/Accounts. Regards, David Williamson Owner Custom Computers Winchester Wireless 2979 Valley Avenue Winchester, V

Re: [AFMUG] zero rating and unlimited data

Because it’s not the beyond unlimited plan. > On Jun 16, 2020, at 9:26 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > >  > I won’t even argue anymore with people who say they have an unlimited mobile > data plan. It’s pointless, they have unlimited data, and you’re a liar or an > idiot to think otherwise. No use

[AFMUG] zero rating and unlimited data

I won't even argue anymore with people who say they have an unlimited mobile data plan. It's pointless, they have unlimited data, and you're a liar or an idiot to think otherwise. No use showing them the 4 different unlimited plans, all with different limits. But I'm confused by the articles

Re: [AFMUG] Forrest- Paketflux cable lengths

You should be fine to run those a dozen feet or so. Shouldn't be a problem with what you're describing. You never know, you might get your chance to write some salty documentation. I've got a pile of resumes I'm digging through (Upwork, local), and can say that I think that maybe some salty docs

[AFMUG] Scientists bring wireless internet underwater for the first time using 'Aqui-fi'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-8423719/Scientists-bring-wireless-internet-underwater-time-using-Aqui-fi.html -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

[AFMUG] OT - telecom mergers --> layoffs

https://techcrunch.com/2020/06/16/t-mobile-layoffs-sprint/ Of course they always claim the merger will create jobs and competition. And Charlie Brown always lets Lucy hold the football. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

[AFMUG] Forrest- Paketflux cable lengths

Since theres no clear documentation and you turned down my cuss documents. How much can I push my luck on the sync/serial cables between injectors? Im thinking about just going to some small boxes i found. 1 for each power supply and syncinjector connected with liquidtight. The site im looking at c

Re: [AFMUG] TVWS feasibility

Title: Re: [AFMUG] TVWS feasibility Chuck, Don't get me started on that one.  Lost about $5k on that experiment. -- Best regards, Mark                            mailto:m...@mailmt.com Myakka Technologies, Inc. www.Myakka.com -- Tuesday, June 16, 2020, 3:38:10 PM, you wrote: Does

Re: [AFMUG] TVWS feasibility

That is a big issue in some areas. Most places it works great. One of our biggest movers. Jeff Broadwick CTIconnect 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@cticonnect.com > On Jun 16, 2020, at 2:57 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > And then the power company deploys smartmeters or smartgri

Re: [AFMUG] TVWS feasibility

I have some hope for Radwin’s new gear. Jeff Broadwick CTIconnect 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@cticonnect.com > On Jun 16, 2020, at 3:28 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > >  > So that's a fair point, but who has tried TVWS recently? > > > > All I hear is the rules suck, the data

Re: [AFMUG] AF Digest, Vol 25, Issue 273

Adaptrum advertises with Microsoft Airband, but I can't find out anything about it... and they didn't respond to my form inquiry on their site. On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 2:38 PM wrote: > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2020 12:24:22 -0700 > From: "SmarterBroadband" > To: "'AnimalFarm Microwave Use

Re: [AFMUG] TVWS feasibility

Does Carlson still make it? From: Adam Moffett Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:27 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TVWS feasibility So that's a fair point, but who has tried TVWS recently? All I hear is the rules suck, the database sucks, the equipment sucks, and it's expensive.

Re: [AFMUG] TVWS feasibility

So that's a fair point, but who has tried TVWS recently? All I hear is the rules suck, the database sucks, the equipment sucks, and it's expensive.  If someone has anything positive to say I'd love to hear it, but I haven't yet. On 6/16/2020 2:04 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: Make sure that you

[AFMUG] Boston Dynamics will sell any business a Spot ...

. for $74,500. https://www.theverge.com/21292684/boston-dynamics-spot-robot-on-sale-price I wonder if Spot can do the indoor part of installs. No Covid worries. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] TVWS feasibility

Radwin are supposed to have a new TVWS product in Beta testing. -Original Message- From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of D. Bernardi Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 11:01 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] TVWS feasibility Howdy folks, I'm looking into solutions to de

Re: [AFMUG] TVWS feasibility

And then the power company deploys smartmeters or smartgrid and you're screwed. If they haven't already. -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick - Lists Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:40 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TVWS feasibility I’d

Re: [AFMUG] FS: 🔥 New Cambium 450 CBRS APs

IIRC is a limited offer for new Cambium customers and limited to a small order, no? Gino Villarini Founder/President @gvillarini t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204 [https://mcusercontent.com/491678685aaddc31e08616413/images/756812e5-24a6-4693-a923-7a1d8f55546d.png] [http

Re: [AFMUG] TVWS feasibility

I’d stay away from it until they fix the database. It’s notoriously inaccurate. Cambium 450 900 will give you good speeds if the noise floor is anything approaching decent. Jeff Broadwick CTIconnect 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@cticonnect.com > On Jun 16, 2020, at 2:22 P

Re: [AFMUG] FS: 🔥 New Cambium 450 CBRS APs

New 450i 3.65ghz AP's can be bought for $1500 right now with the 50% discount promo Cambium is running. On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 8:23 AM Gino A. Villarini wrote: > Medusa and 450i > > > > *From: *AF on behalf of "tpa...@ecpi.com" < > tpa...@ecpi.com> > *Reply-To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group

Re: [AFMUG] TVWS feasibility

I would study the crap out of it using this new lidar tool. Even with RM you can do two overlapping polar heat maps. Where it turns black that is a repeater site. A solar powered repeater at the mid point may be no more cost and work a heck of a lot better than any NLOS product. -Origin

Re: [AFMUG] Wireless state of the art?

PMP450M or PMP450i, we start out with 450i and only switch a sector to 450m if it needs it. On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 12:53 PM Steve Jones wrote: > Give ericcson a call > > On Tue, Jun 16, 2020, 11:27 AM Gino A. Villarini > wrote: > >> Yeah, Massive Mimo 64x64 in 2.5 ghz >> >> >> >> *Gino* >> *Vi

Re: [AFMUG] TVWS feasibility

On 6/16/20 11:22, D. Bernardi wrote: I'm considering building an analyzer to get some basic spectral use. Given the rural nature I assume spectrum could be fairly clean but yes, cellular operators gobbling up spectrum is a concern. That's determined by the TVWS database. There used to be

Re: [AFMUG] TVWS feasibility

I'm considering building an analyzer to get some basic spectral use. Given the rural nature I assume spectrum could be fairly clean but yes, cellular operators gobbling up spectrum is a concern. At 02:13 PM 6/16/2020, you wrote: Don't hold your breath. The availability of TVWS spectrum

Re: [AFMUG] TVWS feasibility

Good point. I'm definitely just interested in most recent technology and/or deployments. At 02:04 PM 6/16/2020, you wrote: Make sure that you only heed technical experience from modern, recent platforms. Someone that tried gen 1 year 8 years ago may have had a valid experience, but that e

Re: [AFMUG] TVWS feasibility

Don't hold your breath. The availability of TVWS spectrum varies (a lot) by region, and many areas do not have enough usable spectrum available to make it anything more than a curiosity. Add to the fact, that they keep "chipping away" at the spectrum and selling it off to the big cellular opera

Re: [AFMUG] TVWS feasibility

Make sure that you only heed technical experience from modern, recent platforms. Someone that tried gen 1 year 8 years ago may have had a valid experience, but that experience is no longer relevant... unless it's more about the company than the product. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Comp

[AFMUG] TVWS feasibility

Howdy folks, I'm looking into solutions to deliver Internet to very rural small pockets of NLOS subscribers where fiber, copper or tower/structure deployments are not practical or cost effective. If I'm to believe vendor briefs, TVWS technology seems to be making recent advancements. Anyo

Re: [AFMUG] Wireless state of the art?

Give ericcson a call On Tue, Jun 16, 2020, 11:27 AM Gino A. Villarini wrote: > Yeah, Massive Mimo 64x64 in 2.5 ghz > > > > *Gino* > *Villarini *Founder/President > @gvillarini > t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204 > [image: aeronet-logo] [image: inc500] >

Re: [AFMUG] Wireless state of the art?

Yeah, Massive Mimo 64x64 in 2.5 ghz Gino Villarini Founder/President @gvillarini t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204 [https://mcusercontent.com/491678685aaddc31e08616413/images/756812e5-24a6-4693-a923-7a1d8f55546d.png] [https://image.ibb.co/noQeyp/inc500.png]

Re: [AFMUG] Wireless state of the art?

With the restriction of "unlicensed" that's an absolute fact. If we really didn't care what it costs there are LTE systems that'll do more. On 6/16/2020 11:38 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: PMP450m - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions

Re: [AFMUG] OT: batcrazy

The holes reduce wind resistance. bp On 6/16/2020 8:17 AM, Robert wrote: I thought the holes were so that it semi-pinched on the skin upon impact to give an "extra" kick... On 6/16/20 7:41 AM, Bill Prince wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] Wireless state of the art?

PMP450M Gino Villarini Founder/President @gvillarini t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204 [https://mcusercontent.com/491678685aaddc31e08616413/images/756812e5-24a6-4693-a923-7a1d8f55546d.png] [https://image.ibb.co/noQeyp/inc500.png]

Re: [AFMUG] Wireless state of the art?

PMP450m - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: fiber...@mail.com To: af@af.afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 10:36:28 AM Subject: [AFMUG] Wireless state of the art? Hi all! What's

[AFMUG] Wireless state of the art?

Hi all! What's currently the money-is-no-object, perfect line of sight, state of the art wireless setup which will give the maximum sustained throughput per sector and tower using sub-60 Ghz unlicensed frequencies in a point-to-multipoint topology? Jared -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com ht

Re: [AFMUG] OT: batcrazy

I thought it reduced the surface area of the contact so more energy would go into less area of your butt. But the paddle was softball compared to a maple meter stick. I had a 6th grade teacher swing one on me like he was driving off of a tee. Wow did that hurt. But I did not let out a peep.

Re: [AFMUG] OT this might cause problems.

Kids will go to jail these days for mixing worx bombs. Probably even jailed for dry ice bombs On Tue, Jun 16, 2020, 9:49 AM wrote: > Yes, my oldest son, back in the very early dial up internet days told a > substitute teacher in grade school that he could look up how to build a > bomb on the int

Re: [AFMUG] OT: batcrazy

Maybe the police should be replaced by nuns with paddles. LAW AND ORDER! From: AF On Behalf Of Robert Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 10:17 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: batcrazy I thought the holes were so that it semi-pinched on the skin upon impact to give an "extra" ki

Re: [AFMUG] OT: batcrazy

When I was in high school, a teacher invited one of the “greasers” who was always mouthing off to go down to the school gym and put on boxing gloves to see how tough he really was. I guess that wouldn’t happen today either? But honestly the biggest punishment was to be sent to the princip

Re: [AFMUG] OT: batcrazy

I thought the holes were so that it semi-pinched on the skin upon impact to give an "extra" kick... On 6/16/20 7:41 AM, Bill Prince wrote: Most of the teachers in grade school carried a paddle whenever we had a large gathering (like when we were in line for lunch). Some of the more aggressiv

Re: [AFMUG] OT: batcrazy

Don't get me wrong, I think the treatment of minorities is out of control by some segments of law enforcement.  But it sounds close to getting where we are in schools is how people expect to be treated by the police. On 6/16/20 7:31 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: One thing Steve pointed out that I

Re: [AFMUG] OT: batcrazy

Adds kind of a personal touch. Maybe "touch" is the wrong word here? bp On 6/16/2020 7:45 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: We got to sign the paddle when we got whacked.  Kinda a point of pride to have your name

Re: [AFMUG] OT this might cause problems.

Yes, my oldest son, back in the very early dial up internet days told a substitute teacher in grade school that he could look up how to build a bomb on the internet and blow up her car. Thankfully nothing ever came of it. Sure as hell would today. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2

Re: [AFMUG] OT this might cause problems.

You know kids these days could find all this info on the Internet and have so much more fun than I ever did except they're too busy playing video games. On 6/16/2020 10:34 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Used to be, you could buy a chemical cold pack at Wal-Mart.  And Ronson lighter fuel. Or if t

Re: [AFMUG] OT: batcrazy

We got to sign the paddle when we got whacked. Kinda a point of pride to have your name there. From: Bill Prince Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 8:41 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: batcrazy Most of the teachers in grade school carried a paddle whenever we had a large gathering

Re: [AFMUG] OT: batcrazy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tank_Man (no, Tank Man is not like Tank Girl) And there was the Hungarian Revolution of 1956. https://www.wearethemighty.com/articles/these-rebels-fought-soviet-tanks-with-dish-soap-and-jam And let’s not forget the Last Man Standing episode where Mike boug

Re: [AFMUG] OT: batcrazy

Most of the teachers in grade school carried a paddle whenever we had a large gathering (like when we were in line for lunch). Some of the more aggressive teachers drilled large holes in their paddles to allow them to swing harder. I was never sure of the effectiven

Re: [AFMUG] OT: batcrazy

I remember teachers getting into fistfights with kids in HS. Teacher was never in trouble. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 8:31 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: batcrazy One thing Steve pointed out that I can attest is a very real thing right now: teachers ca

[AFMUG] OT this might cause problems.

Used to be, you could buy a chemical cold pack at Wal-Mart. And Ronson lighter fuel. Or if they have a gas station, diesel. Coldpacks are made out of ammonium nitrate. Mix the two together and you have anfo. Now, will a shotgun or rifle shell detonate the anfo? If so, they also sell mousetra

Re: [AFMUG] OT: batcrazy

One thing Steve pointed out that I can attest is a very real thing right now: _teachers can't touch the kids at all_. Not just corporal punishment, but you can't push, pull, grab, manhandle, restrain, or anything of the sort.  They can't touch the kid at all.  My wife was doing before-school da

Re: [AFMUG] Rack Mount Surge Protectors

Rack Mount Surge ProtectorsCheap and easy guerilla marketing. It is essentially the only effort I make. From: Bill Prince Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 8:26 AM To: AFMUG Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rack Mount Surge Protectors Thank you Chuck, for reminding me why we are all here. bp On 6/16/2

Re: [AFMUG] OT: batcrazy

Ordinance must be involved. bp On 6/16/2020 7:20 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: A lot of us fawn over large vehicles . What's an assault vehicle? Is it like an assault hammer? On 6/16/2020 10:17 AM, Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] Rack Mount Surge Protectors

Thank you Chuck, for reminding me why we are all here. bp On 6/16/2020 6:59 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: Rack Mount Surge Protectors Surge protectors that fit into the popular APC PRM-4 and PRM-24 rack mounts. MTC Logo

Re: [AFMUG] OT: batcrazy

Scary looking. Adam Moffett wrote: A lot of us fawn over large vehicles . What's an assault vehicle? Is it like an assault hammer? On 6/16/2020 10:17 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote: Installed an 11GHz PTP link for Midland, Texas PD years ago ...they had a large military assault vehicle some of

Re: [AFMUG] OT: batcrazy

A lot of us fawn over large vehicles . What's an assault vehicle? Is it like an assault hammer? On 6/16/2020 10:17 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote: Installed an 11GHz PTP link for Midland, Texas PD years ago ...they had a large military assault vehicle some officers were fawning over...felt like

Re: [AFMUG] OT: batcrazy

It's all about the escalation of threat. Somebody shoots up a school, then we have to arm all the schools (what's wrong with that idea?). Give them MRAPs too. That's a good way to spend money. bp On 6/15/2020 8:11 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] OT: batcrazy

Installed an 11GHz PTP link for Midland, Texas PD years ago ...they had a large military assault vehicle some officers were fawning over...felt like they were itching to use it... On Mon, Jun 15, 2020, 8:33 PM Bill Prince wrote: > I think one of the things they want to do is de-militarize the po

Re: [AFMUG] Ok which one of you cut the fiber backbone?

https://www.dailydot.com/debug/anonymous-false-ddos-attack/ From: AF On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 8:36 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ok which one of you cut the fiber backbone? I stand by my statement...Aliens did it... lots of

Re: [AFMUG] Ok which one of you cut the fiber backbone?

I stand by my statement...Aliens did it... lots of sightings all over. Lol On Mon, Jun 15, 2020, 10:19 PM TJ Trout wrote: > not sure what the outage cause is but ddos it is not, it's been debunked > as many influential people (senators, etc ) were spreading misinformation, > which of course is

Re: [AFMUG] OT: batcrazy

One thing to remember. If they were to disband the police, I will be left unattended. On Tue, Jun 16, 2020, 7:32 AM Adam Moffett wrote: > They'll say, "no no no, we don't mean to take away all the police, what we > mean is" > > But if your slogan takes 3 paragraphs to explain then it's a stu

Re: [AFMUG] OT: batcrazy

They'll say, "no no no, we don't mean to take away all the police, what we mean is" But if your slogan takes 3 paragraphs to explain then it's a stupid slogan. On 6/15/2020 8:37 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: For many people, that seems to mean stop funding the police to deal with issues like me