When did they start having cops in schools? Never once in my K-12
days did I see a policeman in my school. I’ll have to ask my kids if
they ever did. Maybe I led a privileged life.
College had “campus cops” but they were kind of a joke, mostly
relegated to writing parking tickets.
*From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
*Sent:* Monday, June 15, 2020 9:45 PM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: batcrazy
Not around here. That must be an Illinois thing. I left that place
sometime around 1967.
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 6/15/2020 7:42 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
you ever seen a podunk meth dealers arsenal?
On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 9:33 PM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com
<mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I think one of the things they want to do is de-militarize
the police. Local podunk PDs have no business buying million
dollar MRAPs.
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 6/15/2020 7:29 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
the problem is the defund the police folks dont
understand economics. there isnt enough money as it is
for maintaining the police presence for the criminal side
of things. taking that money and paying for a bunch of
counsellors doesnt lead to having enough cops. Removing
police from schools is a 1 percent thing, the other 99
percent will pull their kids out without resource
officers. Mental health still will need police, they dont
go to a hot environment because they dont have arrest
powers if it goes downhill, and you dont want jonna the
counselor having to fight the loon.
They want to disarm the police. thats a big no, complete
non starter. They consider the bullet proof vests to be a
mechanism of intimidation, anyone who has actually had a
vest do its job would never let somebody else go in
without one.
Maybe they try an actual wholistic approach, stop making
everything illegal, and you immediately have less criminals
stop overcharging for pleas, Mike flynn being an ally
example I wish they would recognize. The media says if he
wasnt guilty, why would he take a plea? I can find you
thousands of young black men who can answer that question
without skipping a beat.
Get rid of plea bargains all together, make DAs actually
work for their conviction rates at trial, bet you see a
less burdened court and prison system right quick.
Prisons cost 30-70k annually per inmate. Thats a whole
lot of dough to put into those other programs, and over
time that cost goes down as guards age out and dont need
to be replaced because the cells are empty.
defund the police is targeting a symptom of a virus and
giving it an antibiotic (its the wrong treatment)
On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 7:38 PM Ken Hohhof
<af...@kwisp.com <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:
For many people, that seems to mean stop funding the
police to deal with issues like mental health,
homelessness, domestic disputes, street vendors,
routine discipline in schools, etc., and instead use
that money to fund specialists, and let the police
handle murders and robberies and stuff.
I had a discussion with someone who is all for defund
the police and I said if that’s what they mean, the
term really sucks, because it conveys something
totally different and many people are not going to
support something that sounds like disband the police
and then nobody handles murders and robberies.
Rather than saying reform the police, or narrow their
focus, or move some of their responsibilities to
other agencies. But he said I was wrong, without
really explaining why I was wrong. I think he meant
we can call it what we want to, who cares if it’s
unnecessarily provocative. Or maybe he really does
want to disband the police.
*From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of
*justsumname .
*Sent:* Monday, June 15, 2020 6:14 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
<af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
*Subject:* [AFMUG] OT: batcrazy
is it just the 'news' that I'm reading or are things
really going totally bathshitcrazy ?!? "de-fund
the police" .... is just ONE thing.
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