A lot of us fawn over large vehicles .....

What's an assault vehicle? Is it like an assault hammer?


On 6/16/2020 10:17 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
Installed an 11GHz PTP link for Midland, Texas PD years ago ...they had a large military assault vehicle some officers were fawning over...felt like they were itching to use it...

On Mon, Jun 15, 2020, 8:33 PM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com <mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    I think one of the things they want to do is de-militarize the
    police. Local podunk PDs have no business buying million dollar MRAPs.


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    On 6/15/2020 7:29 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
    the problem is the defund the police folks dont understand
    economics. there isnt enough money as it is for maintaining the
    police presence for the criminal side of things. taking that
    money and paying for a bunch of counsellors doesnt lead to having
    enough cops. Removing police from schools is a 1 percent thing,
    the other 99 percent will pull their kids out without resource
    officers. Mental health still will need police, they dont go to a
    hot environment because they dont have arrest powers if it goes
    downhill, and you dont want jonna the counselor having to fight
    the loon.
    They want to disarm the police. thats a big no, complete non
    starter. They consider the bullet proof vests to be a mechanism
    of intimidation, anyone who has actually had a vest do its job
    would never let somebody else go in without one.
    Maybe they try an actual wholistic approach, stop making
    everything illegal, and you immediately have less criminals
    stop overcharging for pleas, Mike flynn being an ally example I
    wish they would recognize. The media says if he wasnt guilty, why
    would he take a plea? I can find you thousands of young black men
    who can answer that question without skipping a beat.
    Get rid of plea bargains all together, make DAs actually work for
    their conviction rates at trial, bet you see a less burdened
    court and prison system right quick.
    Prisons cost 30-70k annually per inmate. Thats a whole lot of
    dough to put into those other programs, and over time that cost
    goes down as guards age out and dont need to be replaced because
    the cells are empty.

    defund the police is targeting a symptom of a virus and giving it
    an antibiotic (its the wrong treatment)

    On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 7:38 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com
    <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:

        For many people, that seems to mean stop funding the police
        to deal with issues like mental health, homelessness,
        domestic disputes, street vendors, routine discipline in
        schools, etc., and instead use that money to fund
        specialists, and let the police handle murders and robberies
        and stuff.

        I had a discussion with someone who is all for defund the
        police and I said if that’s what they mean, the term really
        sucks, because it conveys something totally different and
        many people are not going to support something that sounds
        like disband the police and then nobody handles murders and
        robberies.  Rather than saying reform the police, or narrow
        their focus, or move some of their responsibilities to other
        agencies.  But he said I was wrong, without really explaining
        why I was wrong.  I think he meant we can call it what we
        want to, who cares if it’s unnecessarily provocative.  Or
        maybe he really does want to disband the police.

        *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com
        <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *justsumname .
        *Sent:* Monday, June 15, 2020 6:14 PM
        *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com
        <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
        *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT: batcrazy

        is it just the 'news' that I'm reading or are things really
        going totally bathshitcrazy ?!?     "de-fund the police" ....
        is just ONE thing.

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