Re: [9fans] interesting possible device

As a Canadian that would come to $1,000,000 nowadays, I think… NXP has their GitHub repo for OpenWRT (encountered it at work recently helping a HW guy with an dev kit): https://github.com/nxp-qoriq/openwrt LS1046A is ARM A76 https://www.nxp.com/docs/en/data-sheet/LS1046A.pdf matt On Fri, Apr

[9fans] Etiquette question

If someone has posted here to the mailing list, and I’d like to contact them directly (because it seems more sensible than a message to the list), is it bad form to do so? I feel like it would be. It is with regards to u-root Matt -- 9fans: 9fans

Re: [9fans] Re: plan 9 for linux users

On Thu, Feb 20, 2025 at 9:24 PM Alyssa M via 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> wrote: > On Thursday, February 20, 2025, at 5:09 PM, ron minnich wrote: > > The next suggestion, btw, is "Go read the factotum document". > > D'you mean this paper? > http://doc.cat-v.org/plan_9/4th_edition/papers/auth ("Security

Re: [9fans] reminder: ratrace, acid tracing, dtracy, etc.

Thanks for this. I am a long time Linux user (since about 1994) and use strace, gdb, tcpdump, etc quite often, especially in an embedded environment (ie terminal) so am gradually figuring out the plan 9 tools like snoopy. Acid of course is more involved. I’m also trying to read code as a means

Re: [9fans] Question about rimport

A' /dev to bind the audio device of the cpu server, except using '#t'. Anyway, I'll keep beavering away. Matt On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 1:02 PM Steve Simon wrote: > do you have ethernet on your embedded systems? > > i did embedded development using plan9 as my desk

[9fans] Question about rimport

my own - but I'm very new to Plan 9 / 9Front. Matt -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T47f690ce385404ea-Md605492f333d0ff8faf54d59 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription

Re: [9fans] GitHub.com/u-root/u-root now works again on plan 9

On Wed, Jan 1, 2025 at 8:04 PM Ron Minnich wrote: > u-root is a set of about 180 unix commands (and some plan9-only > commands) written in Go. > Playing with u-root on some embedded projects at work has been on my to-do list for some time, as well as 'https://github.com/u-root/cpu'... -

Re: [9fans] Plan9 C compiler targetting WASM

As someone who works in embedded systems in a horrible train-wreck of C++, I second this heartily. On Thu, Dec 19, 2024 at 7:02 AM Cyber Fonic wrote: > I admire the cross-compilation capabilities of Plan9. Compared to gcc and > Clang, Plan9 C compilers appeal to my sense of aesthetics. There are

Re: [9fans] Balancing Progress and Accessibility in the Plan 9 Community. (Was: [9fans] Interoperating between 9legacy and 9front)

elpful in learning how to play with 9front and am very grateful for it. Matt > > Everyone has access to amd64 machines. The used market is flooded > with retired quad core amd64 Dell and Lenovo office desktops. Most > experienced Linux users who want to try a Plan9 system can also >

Re: [9fans] How do I build from source on linux?

It’s not possible to build but you could edit on Linux and build on your qemu machine On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 1:01 PM wrote: > Well i wanted to do things on Linux since i don't find the environment > nice at all on 9front and would want to make my life easier by doing it on > Linux. Turns out no

Re: [9fans] How do I build from source on linux?

😂 On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 12:00 PM Arne Meyer wrote: > You don't > > schrieb am Do., 15. Juni 2023, 18:53: > >> I run 9front with QEMU and i want to make some changes to it from source >> and than build it and run it on qemu. How do I build it on linux with no mk? >> > *9fans

Re: [9fans] Despite being called a fork, is 9front similar to how Linux distros work?

On Monday, January 17, 2022, at 8:36 PM, Sigrid Solveig Haflínudóttir wrote: > I'm afraid you got it wrong. Community is mostly centered around 9front. One of the reasons is that it actually works and is still being developed and used by many. Plan 9 is dead, 9front lives on. There is also softwar

Re: [9fans] Despite being called a fork, is 9front similar to how Linux distros work?

But that's why 9front was forked, right? They say it on their FAQ. Even though Plan 9 isn't being developed anymore, doesn't the fork cause worry that one day they become too different, especially since the community is rather centered around Plan 9 rather than 9front? Or is the community active

Re: [9fans] Despite being called a fork, is 9front similar to how Linux distros work?

@Humm: I understand that Android isn't a fork of Linux, I meant to imply that although Android is argued to be a Linux distro, they have very different environments that can't easily interact with each other. I also know that the meaning of forking is objective, I meant that forking invokes the

Re: [9fans] problem using a vera font in rio

i don't know. it's not libfreetype. fontsrv asks the OS X graphics code to render each glyph into a box and then concatenates the boxes to make the subfont. all the text was noticeably lighter (more grey) than in your screen shot when i put them side by side. this is due to apple's algo

Re: [9fans] pineview atom

it supports 4gb of memory. of non-ECC memory, so nice terminal, bad server "the probability of having at least one bit error in 4 gigabyes of memory at sea level on planet Earth in 72 hours is over 95%." http://lambda-diode.com/opinion/ecc-memory

Re: [9fans] In case anyone worries about block hash collision in venti

not only has someone got to find a collision during a tiny timeframe, they also have to fit it in 8k

Re: [9fans] contrib/gui

Nice work, Federico! This is very useful. Thank you.

[9fans] Removing pages from the wiki

Folks: I've created a test page on the Plan 9 wiki and now want to get rid of it so it doesn't add to the clutter on the site. I don't see an explicit "remove" feature - does one exist? Thanks, Matt

Re: [9fans] Coraid funded

To the Coraid team: Congrats on your recent funding - your efforts to improve and enhance Plan 9 are obvious throughout the community. Cheers, Matt

[9fans] aux/vga: nvidia: not enough memory

only asking for 1024x768x16. I then put in an ATI Radeon Rage of some sort and got the exact same error message which I think very odd since it's not an NVidia card. Any idea what's up and what I can try next? Thanks, Matt

Re: [9fans] How long should it take fossil to dump to venti (1st time around)

> It will take a very long time, espicially if your IDE controller is not > known or it is and DMA is known to be problematic. Thanks, Steve. The disks finally quieted down early this afternoon. I just didn't expect it to take that long. Matt

[9fans] Logitech Wireless Optical Trackman

oard. It certainly has *enough* buttons. Thanks, Matt -- PO Box 393 Wabasca, AB T0G 2K0 780-891-3282 mad...@phantomware.ca

[9fans] How long should it take fossil to dump to venti (1st time around)

een on for several hours thus far. I assume that this is fossil being dumped for the first time but I didn't think it would take this long. Is there a way for me to peek at the dump process? I'd like to turn this machine off at some point but don't want to interrupt it. Thanks, Matt

[9fans] Recovering venti arenas using Qemu

OU to everyone concerned :) matt if only the burst pipe & broken central heating were so easy to fix!

Re: [9fans] Hardware for Plan9

I'm running the traditional Ken FS, sans Erik's mods. "sans" is French for "without" hence serif & sans-serif, is that what you meant ?

Re: [9fans] Just one piece o' help.

burning CD/DVD Plan 9 has a very elegant approach to burning CDs. See cdfs(4) and mk9660(8) for the details. I wrote a wee helper for burning .iso files http://plan9/bell-labs.com/sources/contrib/maht/rc/iso2cd /n/sources/contrib/maht/rc/iso2cd

Re: [9fans] faces

You can't prove harmlessness in people, hence the joyful collective outcry of "all men are potential rapists". It's the halting problem of human interaction Brian! Your computer thinks your face is harmful! The following attachment had content that we can't prove to be harmless.

Re: [9fans] What do you use plan 9 for?

chutsu wrote: So.. been looking at plan 9, am confused what plan 9 is used for? I mean I know its a hobbyst sort of OS, but what can you do with it though? Can you browse the internet? Watch videos? Thanks Chris Your pre-conceptions are erroneous. http://9fans.net/ read the man pages & pa

Re: [9fans] ideas for helpful system io functions

That's not what I meant by joining two fds. back seat coding, nice

Re: [9fans] 9p resource sharing [was: Scanners]

i wasn't talking about aoe. but since you are, what exactly is difficult about the plan 9 aoe driver? - erik the installer, or was last time I looked, I did try to make one but got so far and decided on a "better way" which is on my large pile of todo. I made a "install to this drive" sc

Re: [9fans] 9p resource sharing [was: Scanners]

erik quanstrom wrote: On Thu Nov 26 15:36:39 EST 2009, news...@lava.net wrote: or the cannonical example, a hard drive. I intentionally avoided this one because two things that modern OSs do know how to share (at least a little) are: - filesystems - printers it is pretty h

Re: [9fans] Scanners

/n/sources/contrib/maht/snapscan.iso if you didn't work out the typo

Re: [9fans] Scanners

to do this. Matt

Re: [9fans] Examples of rc scripts

Maurí­cio CA wrote: Hi, all, I found 'werc' in a wikipedia link, and used it as a source for examples of how to use rc. Are there other places where I can found rc scripts, as well as other scripts for plan9 tools? (By the way, do you know how can I attribute a here document to a variable?) T

Re: [9fans] instructions to use .eps in troff wanted

Rudolf Sykora wrote: Hello, is there any good place where I could read how to embed some pictures into a troff document? Preferably a way that works in plan9, too... I can't find much about it anywhere. What do you use? Thanks Ruda /n/sources/contrib/maht/ppm2eps/

Re: [9fans] dtrace for plan 9

/me imagines it goes like this : hmm, I'm always writing the similar debugging code for the kernel, I know I'll write a bit of custom code. ... some time later hmm, I'm always writing the similar post processing scripts, I know I'll add a callback before each print

Re: [9fans] hoc's behaviour, unary operators

i'll leave as an excersize why k&r thought that making -- and ++ tokens was worth while. did DEC make them do it so they could issue trademark infringement lawsuits for copying the instruction mnemonic?

Re: [9fans] [9ans] Question about network protocols

ty ty wrote: i haven't found any with grep I find this quite good for browsing the source in a web browser http://fxr.watson.org/fxr/source/?v=PLAN9 ipattach is referenced here http://fxr.watson.org/fxr/ident?v=PLAN9;i=ipattach

[9fans] I made it home

Hi, I've been awake 40 hours or so now but I'm not hallucinating enough for my liking just yet but at leas the coffee tastes good here! IWP9 was fab, a big thank you to everyone involved, attending, watching and those disappointed not to be there. Sorry to those we managed to lose on Saturday,

Re: [9fans] Barrelfish

Sorry to kick this rotting horse but I just got back You've got to feed in 2 hours of source material - 820Gb per stream, how? I suppose some sort of parallel bus of wires or optic fibres. we call that "hand waving" If I have massively parallel processing I would want massively p

Re: [9fans] Barrelfish

this is quite an astounding thread. you brought up clock speed doubling and now refute yourself. i just noted that 48ghz is not possible with silicon non-quantium effect tech. - erik I think I've been misunderstood, I wasn't asserting the clock speed increase in the first place, I was ho

Re: [9fans] Barrelfish

Eris Discordia wrote: "Moore's law doesn't say anything about speed or power. But why'd you assume "people in the wrong" (w.r.t. their understanding of Moore's law) would measure "speed" in gigahertz rather than MIPS or FLOPS? because that's what the discussion I was having was about

Re: [9fans] Barrelfish

Sam Watkins wrote: I calculated roughly that encoding a 2-hour video could be parallelized by a factor of perhaps 20 trillion, using pipelining and divide-and-conquer, with a longest path length of 1 operations in series. Such a system running at 1Ghz could encode a single 2-hour video in 1

Re: [9fans] Barrelfish

erik quanstrom wrote: you motivated me to find my copy of _high speed semiconductor devices_, s.m. sze, ed., 1990. which motivated me to dig out the post I made elsewhere : "Moore's law doesn't say anything about speed or power. It says manufacturing costs will lower from technological i

Re: [9fans] Barrelfish

The misinterpretation of Moore's Law is to blame here, of course: Moore is a smart guy and he was talking about transistor density, but pop culture made is sound like he was talking speed up. For some time the two were in lock-step. Not anymore. I ran the numbers the other day based on sped

Re: [9fans] android hacking?

hiro wrote: Is the usb port speaking the standard usb storage language? yes, to the SD card, no idea if you can do anything else with it

Re: [9fans] android hacking?

Anthony Sorace wrote: as i understand it, "proper" android stuff is meant to be in their java flavor. you can load C programs, http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2009/06/introducing-android-scripting.html http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/android-barcode-scanner/ Just as a proof-of-concept

Re: [9fans] android hacking?

hiro wrote: What would be amazing would be attaching it via USB and importing its /net (or some other way of turning it into a 3G modem for plan9) Is there more about it than compiling inferno and simply exporting that device? I'm sure that would be great, drop me an email when it's

Re: [9fans] android hacking?

Tim Newsham wrote: Anyone playing with android phones? I have a G1 dev but I've not written a single line of code for it You didn't mention the camera, I try not to ! What would be amazing would be attaching it via USB and importing its /net (or some other way of turning it into a 3G modem

Re: [9fans] mishandling empty lists - let's fix it

You can build this whole dream using plan9 and show the world, you don't have to rewrite any of the utilities, just shape the calling convention to your liking. I bet you could even find the pattern and wrap the whole lot in a meta script, maybe even utilise an FS fn mkdir { if(! ~ $#* 0)

Re: [9fans] mishandling empty lists - let's fix it

sqweek wrote: fn apply { cmd=$1 shift while(! test $1 = :) { cmd=($cmd $1) shift } for(i in $*) $cmd <$i } # eg: apply grep foo : *.c that's the beauty of the rc shell, you can define what you like fn cat { if(~ $#* 0) /bin/cat /dev/null if not {

Re: [9fans] handling output

Tee part of the POSIX standard http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/utilities/tee.html hugo rivera wrote: Great, thanks. Looks like plan 9 guys have thought about everything useful ☺ (and that I didn't do my homework). 2009/10/1, roger peppe : 2009/10/1 hugo rivera : I'v

Re: [9fans] 9vx is really excellent, link it on the bell-labs pages?

I've had "/bin/rc: not found" twice from Qemu with clean shutdowns I've also *just* had the disk go bad during the install to a qcow2 disk, at 90%+ too :( (or at least I think it went bad, I had lots of /n/newfs not found based errors) I started over with a raw disk instead

Re: [9fans] 9vx is really excellent, link it on the bell-labs pages?

I've had "/bin/rc: not found" twice from Qemu with clean shutdowns I run it in with -snapshot now and do manual commits (or rather, I did before I went to back to dedicated hardware) My drawterm also pops out of existence sometimes when I'm using Acme. If I restart it and open the same file, t

Re: [9fans] bluetooth

you could just set the mtime to the time of the last successful operation on that device What do you mean exactly by "sees"? ... all devices that are listening on inquiry scan channels and respond to inquiry requests. It looks like your requirement might be satisfied by one or th

[9fans] more on the history of recursion

http://www.paulgraham.com/mcilroy.html

Re: [9fans] Petabytes on a budget: JBODs + Linux + JFS

storage vendors have a credibility problem. i think the big storage vendors, as referenced in the op, sell you on many things you don't need for much more than one has to spend. I went to a product demo from http://www.isilon.com/ They make a filesystem that spans multiple machines. They

Re: [9fans] fun quote

look who's trolling now :) i don't know how ingo managed to put his finger on so many reasons i enjoy plan 9 by counterexample. Linux is a 18+ years old kernel, there's not that many easy projects left in it anymore :-/ Core kernel features that look basic and which are not in Linux yet often t

Re: [9fans] awk help; not plan9 matter

awk '{a=$2; sub(a, "hell"); print}' file also works if it contains no regex special chars this seems to do the trick otherwise awk ' { p=substr($0, index($0, " ")); split(p, a, "[^ ]"); sub(/ +[^ ]+/, "", p); print $1 a[1] "hell" p} ' Rudolf Sykora wrote: Hello, simple task. I want to

Re: [9fans] awk help; not plan9 matter

sed 's/^([^ ]+ +)([^ ]+)/\1HELL/' Hello, simple task. I want to change the 2nd field on each line of a file, but preserve the spacing of the lines. If I do awk '{$2="hell"; print}' file the field gets changed, but all the spacing of the lines is gone; i.e. any space is now just ' ' like this:

Re: [9fans] Installer error (not supposed to happen)

ike a charm. Plan 9 only sees the first hard drive when booting but once the kernel is loaded both hard drives are visible and available for use. I didn't actually retry the atom ISO but I imagine that this would fix its problem as well. I thought you might be interested to know this. Matt

Re: [9fans] Installer error (not supposed to happen)

.. thank you for pointing out the obvious :-) Matt

Re: [9fans] Installer error (not supposed to happen)

t; remove one hard drive. add hard drive back after install? Yeah, I was hoping to avoid that. Lazy me not wanting to open the case ;-) Thanks for all your help, Matt

Re: [9fans] Installer error (not supposed to happen)

Is there anything I can do to get around this or a possible fix to test? run that portion of the installer manually, and don't perform the test, they are only shell scripts if you have a plan9 already, you can roll your own installer my efforts documented here http://maht0x0r.blogspot.co

Re: [9fans] Installer error (not supposed to happen)

. FWIW, my an md5sum of /bin/test gives 8edc427379a1d7414c351d38d217ef17. Any suggestions or solutions would be greatly appreciated. I'd love to get Plan 9 installed on my computer. Indicentally the same Plan 9 ISO installs just fine on another computer that I have: that computer only has one hard drive. Thanks, Matt

Re: [9fans] Installer error (not supposed to happen)

dev/sdC1/plan9 Also: % test -f /dev/sdC0/plan9 # produces no errors % test -f /dev/sdC1/plan9 # produces no errors As soon as I put a wildcard into the test string, e.g., % test -f /dev/sd*/plan9 test: unexpected operator/operand: /dev/sdC1/plan9 Hope this helps - thanks! Matt

Re: [9fans] Installer error (not supposed to happen)

/dev/sd*/plan9* test: unexpected operator/operand: /dev/sdC1/plan9 > on my machine, i cannot get test to complain > regardless of the arguments i give it. Perhaps we have different versions of test? An md5sum of /bin/test gives 8edc427379a1d7414c351d38d217ef17 Matt

Re: [9fans] Installer error (not supposed to happen)

ev/sd*/plan9* > on my machine, i cannot get test to complain > regardless of the arguments i give it. Indicentally test gives no errors on another machine which has only one hard drive. The bug must only be a problem where /dev/sd*/plan9* actually matches more than once. Matt -- PO Box 3

Re: [9fans] Installer error (not supposed to happen)

st/gui or inst/textonly but both give me the "unexpected operator/operand" error I have previously encountered. Thanks, Matt

Re: [9fans] Installer error (not supposed to happen)

2651643 Testing manually in a terminal I get the following: % test -f /dev/sdC1/plan9# works, I think % test -f /dev/sd*/plan9* test: unexpected operator/operand: /dev/sdC1/plan9 Hope this helps, Matt

Re: [9fans] Installer error (not supposed to happen)

cted operator/operand" I get the following: failed test args: -f /dev/sd*/9fat failed test args: -f /dev/sd*/fossil* failed test args: -f /dev/sd*/arenas failed test args: -f /dev/sd*/isect I get the same results regardless of which file system types I select. Thanks, Matt

[9fans] Installer error (not supposed to happen)

get Plan 9 installed. Thanks! Matt

Re: [9fans] Disks not detected while installing Plan 9 on Dell OptiPlex GX1

you send me (offlist) the output of dmesg after having > booted debian. i don't see any reason your drives shouldn't > be recognized, but i could be missing something. Will do, thanks. Matt

[9fans] Disks not detected while installing Plan 9 on Dell OptiPlex GX1

Thanks in advance, Matt

Re: [9fans] "Blocks" in C

I could be wrong, but I feel like you're not really interested in entertaining that this idea could be useful, but more interested in shooting it down. That's fine, people do that all the time. People are *constantly* saying Plan 9 is a huge waste of time too. And if you count the number

Re: [9fans] Petabytes on a budget: JBODs + Linux + JFS

I concur with Erik, I specced out a 20tb server earlier this year, matching the throughputs hits you in the wallet. I'm amazed they are using pci-e 1x , it's kind of naive see what the guy from sun says http://www.c0t0d0s0.org/archives/5899-Some-perspective-to-this-DIY-storage-server-mention

Re: [9fans] Interested in improving networking in Plan 9

Oh I don't know Shoehorning a DB interface into a FS interface doesn't feel right but stranger things have happened. I've done it a few ways. echo commit > /n/db/0/ctl is kind of where one ends up for my limbo postgres module I never got round to the fs part. i just wrap the sql bits

Re: [9fans] scheme plan 9

number of schemes > 4 http://www.plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/Contrib_index/ maybe one is what you are looking for there is also a gsoc project, search 9fans for more details http://9fans.net/archive/ xiangyu wrote: HI,everyone: Has anyone ported scheme into plan 9 ? or is there som

Re: [9fans] walk updated, earth shatters

erik quanstrom wrote: sounds familiar. i haven't needed an analog to your -f option yet since the most common use is grep -n pattern `{find /sys/src/|grep '\.[chys]$' I changed it to do this : chmod 550 `{walk -p} chmod -w `{walk -f}

Re: [9fans] new 9atom.iso

Tim Newsham wrote: You could just dd or rawrite from windows, as well. iirc you need to be an administrator and can turn on raw disk access, for which you get v. scary dialog boxes warning you not to do it that was on xp, I expect newer trash will be the same / worse

Re: [9fans] new 9atom.iso

To further report the machine seems to be running after installation quite "snappily" though I seem to have messed something up and get a lot of messages about failed venti writes, due to a lack of a connection. venti=/dev/sdC0/venti or venti=#S/sdC0/venti in plan9.ini not sure which i

[9fans] walk updated, earth shatters

/n/sources/contrib/maht/walk.c I adapted Dan's walk to add some options -t : print trailing slashes on directories -p : only print path (directory) names # -d was taken -f : only print file names If -p and -f are given, all output is supressed but the walk still happens.

Re: [9fans] new 9atom.iso

erik quanstrom wrote: i love it. we have complaining that fat doesn't do more than 8.3 and trolling that there's a patent liability for doing more than 8.3 within 24 hrs. thanks but I'm not trolling, not complaining just to be clear. fat itself is not patented. just some particular aspe

Re: [9fans] new 9atom.iso

Venkatesh Srinivas wrote: On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 4:54 AM, hiro<23h...@googlemail.com> wrote: perhaps we should try to boot plan 9 from a linux kernel? Sounds great to me... this probably makes me a troll... I hear ron minnich did that with his lguest port. Does that make him a trol

Re: [9fans] new 9atom.iso

the best way to remove 9load is to make Plan 9 grub-bootable. I don't know much about this subject but I already boot Plan9 using grub. You mean something more specific than chainloading I presume.

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 via QEMU

you can configure Qemu to use the host console as the guest serial console

Re: [9fans] pipefrom fun

Russ Cox wrote: pipefrom is too late to rewrite outgoing addresses, because marshal has already written the To: I submitted a patch for marshal to do the From: part but was told I should use pipefrom instead. I'll stick a sed in the send see how that works out :> line with the local addre

Re: [9fans] pipefrom fun

why not use /mail/lib/names.local for the first example? good point, upon my brief look the answer would be, although I can contrive upon boot to use a different file, in the general case, users can't edit it. i haven't read the script, though. ; ls -l /n/sources/contrib/maht/rc/pipefr

Re: [9fans] audio standards -- too many to choose from

Flogging this horse still But as I got my old Edirol UA-3d working with plan9 again (i.e. I plugged it in!) I thought I'd see what the USB audio landscape looked like, my it has changed. Has anyone tried one of these with plan9 http://www.roland.com/products/en/UA-101/ It also does MIDI whi

Re: [9fans] Inserting Special Characters into Acme

^M inserts a c/r see /lib/keyboard for the other text entries the second column is the key sequence, the first uses the modifier key (left Alt on my pc) so, for instance, æ is alt-a e alt-shift-o c is © alt-d g is † Is there some way to insert special characters into Acme text windows? Sp

Re: [9fans] HP: Printing with the Illiterate

I don't trust multifunction devices anyway. ^ "I hope that there are sour apples in every bushel." oops, wrong one "/Those days are dead and gone and the eulogy was delivered by Perl./" I did a Markov of Uriel, that was amusing but

[9fans] Blogger tools

rap around some python, and my optional shell script driven fs /n/sources/contrib/maht/blogger You'll need bichued's python which is now a contrib the day after I worked out how to install it from source but the product of that was wanting better blogging tools :> Matt

Re: [9fans] laptop install woes

This is pretty much a show-stopper for me. I guess it's time to find a new laptop with supported hardware. or a usb ethernet device

[9fans] Matrox DualHead2Go

Hi, I don't quite know what I'm asking, I'm just fishing for responses :) I got a Matrox DualHead2Go which splits a vga signal across multiple monitors. Atm. I have it driving two screen with a duplicated image but if you supply it one of these modes : edid 2048x76...@60hz clock=113.75

Re: [9fans] Thrift RPC

I have not been able to convince coworkers that filesystem namespaces are the way to go. I think they think it is too hard. *shrug* you can lead a horse... Funny, the problem I usually have is that people think file systems are *too simple*, oh, no data types other than *byte stream*

Re: [9fans] audio standards -- too many to choose from

Charles Forsyth wrote: Hardware 24...@192khz. the human ear can't hear as high as that still, it ought to please any passing bat! Hi-fi, hi-fi, ... Personally I can't hear over 9119 hz (audio), but I might want to record 1s of 192Khz (samples I presume) and stretch them by 100x to 96

Re: [9fans] Using proportional fonts in Acme for Programming

I always use proportional, 10 years ish now I always use tabs not spaces for indenting I don't remember it ever being a problem, certainly not one unsolved by clicking on Font

Re: [9fans] [limbo] I tried keyring, but it was the wrong number

Charles Forsyth wrote: with a zero modulus (which suggests the key wasn't unpacked correctly). my deliberate mistake (it won't be using rsaencrypt but rsadecrypt) happened to highlight the actual problem, which is that strtosk shouldn't accept a string that looks to me (if not to it) like

[9fans] Someone let the domain go

http://www.lucent-inferno.com/ er nsfw btw !

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