On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 3:20 PM adventures in9 <adventures...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Suggesting ways to try out a Plan9 system is not a hypothetical for
> me.  I put myself out there doing videos demonstrating Plan9 systems,
> and so I get questions all the time.


FWIW I have found your channel *extremely* helpful in learning how to play
with 9front and am very grateful for it.

Matt





>
> Everyone has access to amd64 machines.  The used market is flooded
> with retired quad core amd64 Dell and Lenovo office desktops.  Most
> experienced Linux users who want to try a Plan9 system can also
> navigate qemu.  9Front covers all these use cases.  The typical
> problems that arise are lack of drivers, which 9Legacy is even worse
> with.
>
> Besides the hardware issue, the biggest benefit from 9Front is that it
> has an active community all working on the same fork.  The most eye
> opening thing about this whole long exchange is that the old Plan9
> people are largely working alone on private forks.
>
> On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 10:02 AM Ori Bernstein <o...@eigenstate.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 13 May 2024 11:56:20 -0400
> > "ibrahim via 9fans" <9fans@9fans.net> wrote:
> >
> > > I'm wondering why you don't adjust it so that 9front can also be run
> there.
> >
> > Because 9vx is a hacky dead end; it fundamentally
> > only runs (and can only run) on 32-bit x86. It
> > works because of a quirk of 32-bit x86 addressing.
> >
> > Linux distros are wanting to drop support for
> > running 32 bit binaries (Ubuntu tried in 2019,
> > others have tried on and off).
> >
> > Macs no longer ship x86 processors, and even the
> > ones that have x86 cpus dropped support for 32-bit
> > binaries 5 years ago.
> >
> > I have no idea what windows is up to.
> >
> > Basically, qemu/drawterm works better in more or
> > less every way.

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