Anyone know if this project went anywhere?
https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~412/lectures/L05_Purge_Proposal.pdf
A Hellaphone revisit.
On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 12:48 PM sirjofri
wrote:
> Hello,
>
> many many really cool ideas. Most of them get a big heart icon, but I
> don't want to repeat your ideas. So
This is interesting:
*"Pursuant to the Freedom of Information Act, I hereby request the
following records:*
*Records, emails, memos and reports relating to or mentioning the operating
system Plan 9 from Bell Labs"*
https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/foia-cia-plan-9-from-b
I'm not running one (at the moment), but I think there's an stunnel port
for Plan 9, and that could be an easy way to duct tape TLS support onto
your existing setup.
-Jack
On Sun, Feb 7, 2016 at 2:29 PM Steve Simon wrote:
> I have been running my a smtp server on plan9 for about
&
).
>
> ghostscript already renders plan 9 produced pdf just fine.
> so that problem is solved, and there's no need to do anything.
>
> what we need is better access to externally produced documents.
>
So, skipping interactivity, what about a pdf2pdf filter?
-Jack
Is a PS/PDF library something that might benefit from reconstruction in Go?
Or is it just a spaghetti mess?
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Kurt H Maier wrote:
> This is an outrage. I was promised html parsing and in-line images with
> cat.
Best mailing list message ever. :)
-J
n you would think the odds of it reoccurring in the future would be
non-zero, and you might as well add a comment for future fumblers. :)
-Jack
Traditional names always have the edge:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kwigillingok,_Alaska
I think the Yup'ik are half-Welsh. ;)
-Jack
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 7:53 AM, Kurt H Maier wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 08:26:32AM -0800, Brian L. Stuart wrote:
> >
> > Yeah,
xen 4.0 and 4.1 as well.
That'd be a virtual machine *guest* you're describing there. The
answer for plan9 as a vm host is still 'no.'
Please post this, however, in the thread concerning the use of plan9
under Xen4. The OP sure would be interested in your usage under Xen4.
-Jack
Even with it's "faults" (age?), I still miss Oberon. It was *fun* and elegant.
-Jack
On 8/20/2012 3:48 AM, Balwinder S Dheeman wrote:
office productivity suites, relational
databases, and, or even a decent web browser like Chromium, or Firefox,
modren C++ compiler, good GUI tool-kit or widgets
These all have an "all useful features" version on plan9 called catclock.
adcom (not to mention you can actually purchase low qty of
this chip if you wanted to). There is a larger version as well (go to
Olimex's main site and navigate to the product family 'olinuxino').
I've always had good experiences with Olimex stuff. I am really glad to
see them still in operation.
-Jack
ks shows a redirection error page from
google. I haven't had any time to look into this problem yet.
This works in mothra with webfs. I like mothra much better than abaco.
It is included in 9front, or alternatively grab it from the 9front
google code page. It uses 9front's webfs as well.
-Jack
On 5/17/2012 10:41 AM, Jack Johnson wrote:
Quick tangent, is there anyone out there whose favorite environment is
non-native? Maybe 9vx or plan9ports on specific hardware? Your secret
sam port to Windows 8's Metro UI?
For all I know, plan9ports full screen on a MacBook Air is Glenda'
ith Chrome on the next
monitor over. I know someone out there has a setup they've nestled
into and are slightly cringing at the thought of his or her next
machine or OS transition because right now life is good.
-Jack
ot',
just what you've got available for new writes between dumps to worm.
-Jack
On 5/10/2012 10:15 AM, Charles Forsyth wrote:
If you're using USB, why would you bother with ISO format?
On 10 May 2012 13:57, Jack Norton mailto:j...@0x6a.com>>
wrote:
The 9front bootloader can boot from a USB disk. You can then throw
a plan9 iso on the disk and go
e.com/p/plan9front/wiki/usbboot
I'd think you would be able to use a lab's plan9 iso in place of the
9front iso listed in that wiki. I've never tried so don't get crabby if
it doesn't work. It will work just fine however, as written.
-Jack
d read it.
After that, then have a look in /rc/bin as well.
Just poke around. Assume that you will probably hose your system a few
times in the process. In fact, if you haven't hosed your system yet,
you aren't climbing up the learning curve.
-Jack
erence card that one 9fan composed long
ago... THAT is a great little thing to have handy. I printed it out but
removed the file so I don't have a link handy.
-Jack
doesn't apply to me. I'm not productive on
linux or plan 9.
-Jack
considering the subsequent cephalopod? :)
-Jack
shape too!
-Jack
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 3:43 PM, erik quanstrom
wrote:
> pfft. we've always had find. we've just called it "du".
It's funny, since I learned how to do that via 9fans, I still do it
that way on Linux.
-Jack
venti and be done with it. Couldn't you just push
those files onto your venti srv, and access them through other methods
besides fossil, bypassing this whole snapshot thing all together?
I'm curious also how much ram this beast will have. Are you building a
new machine?
-Jack
functionality of raid was added. I know these are trade secrets though
so I've never asked.
I would still ask that question if it were pcie attached. Curiosity
will be my undoing though.
-Jack
guys use
generic hardware and something like vblade (or those other ones people
have made for linux like ggblade or whatever it is called)?
-Jack
t required nothing out of the ordinary in the end.
Choose your virtualized NIC wisely I suppose.
-Jack
like this, so don't expect anything out
of me.
By the way, any tips (i.e. links to literature) would be greatly
appreciated. This is a learning experience.
-Jack
minimal
collisions, it's possible that the first rabbit in space was named
Marnushka (and not Glenda).
-Jack
Christoph Lohmann wrote:
Hello,
now that an academic non-polished Plan 9 remake with idiotic
dependencies and the fun OS, which has its only goal to add
political jokes, are taking all the pace, I hereby declare,
that Plan 9 is MORE ALIVE THAN EVER.
Rest In Peace.
Sincerely,
Christoph Lohman
me... :)).
Without me having to try a zillion different kernel/bootloader
combinations, would the people who use the D510MO sound off what
kernel/loader they are using? I'd be much obliged.
THanks,
Jack
As an update I'd like to point out that the D510MO works fine with 9atom
rdware, but hang right after
memory capacities are printed (gee, I've seen this before... what could
it be this time... :)).
Without me having to try a zillion different kernel/bootloader
combinations, would the people who use the D510MO sound off what
kernel/loader they are using? I'd be much obliged.
THanks,
Jack
.
Also, I'll mention that I am not interested in "cheating" this feature
by touching a file every 30 seconds or some other hack. I've not
purchased yet, so I've an opportunity to do it right from the start.
-Jack
e 9fans archive as my own personal manual next
to the man pages (and at last resort the wiki). I for some reason
always get the impression that the wiki is missing bits... so I use it
only has a means of discovering just what man page exactly I should be
reading :)
-Jack
a
cache (or a worm when prices come down on high capacity guys) on an ssd
in plan 9, but I am expecting it to quit after a few months for some
reason... I'm not very trusting for some reason.
-Jack
that also takes wireless commands.
It is useless unless you run the crappy windows software.
Any electronics guys know of a work-a-like open source hardware
implementation of the cm11? I've got all these x10 modules laying
around....
-Jack
Russ Cox wrote:
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 10:28 AM, Yaroslav wrote:
Is the software which powers 9fans web archive publicly available?
it's not.
ahem... let me put on my pedantic shoes...
9fans.net/archive wrote:
> "powered by grep(1) "
(bad) summary of folder contents/size. It's a crap shoot. Hover-only
stuff is a disease.
-Jack
ly subscribe to that idea whole heartedly. In a
sense, margins to add to such a technique. Obviously though, it can be
over done.
-Jack
on to bigger and better things.
I know this has nothing to do with your question, but I just wanted to
share a point of view.
-Jack
On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 8:29 AM, dexen deVries wrote:
> disclaimer: i'm not a plan 9 person for any viable value of `p9 person'
I'm in the same boat, but I aspire to be in the other boat. :)
-Jack
rd working under plan 9 so I am hesitant. If I can
convince myself I've got the time, I will buy one.
They've even got schematics posted on their wiki (link can be found if
you follow the above URL).
-Jack
ptop motherboards and hot swap isn't even a useful feature in that case.
-jack
B 2.5" consumer
drives out for just north of $100! What a world we live in. By the
time I fill that, there will be 2TB 2.5" drives...
Cheers,
Jack
as my "stream of thought" manual for plan 9 with permanent
records of damn good information. Plus I am tired of this damn mousing
debacle -- I'm about to filter out that thread.
-Jack
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 9:42 AM, errno wrote:
> On Tuesday, June 21, 2011 10:20:27 AM Jack Johnson wrote:
>> which is why I find it hard to get hot headed over any of the assertions,
>> but tend toward trusting the research.
>>
> What research?
The rabbit hole is pretty d
ware. The number of UI variables are mind boggling, which is why I
find it hard to get hot headed over any of the assertions, but tend
toward trusting the research.
Beating the dead horse,
-Jack
ared touchscreens of today
and tomorrow (single, double, triple finger taps on the screen, etc...).
That is my take anyway.
-Jack
As for the OP, I'm with Peter C. Install it native and forget all of
this other nonsense for now. You could probably find a good candidate
PC in a dumpster somewhere. Or a $70 atom board with a bit of memory
could do you just fine (the plain intel ones -- not those omg-ION
graphics ones). I know the NMO510 guy works with only one core (but it
works).
Cheers,
Jack
ki/plan9/people/index.html
Not guaranteed to be exhaustive, but a start nonetheless.
That might be the closest thing to a Plan 9 real world application
database.
-Jack
ld. There is a certain zen to saying "well I don't really think
that is necessary" and to forgo a "hop on the bandwagon" or "me too!"
existence.
In the end though, the list will eventually say it: start hammering out
some code and we'll see what you come up with. Proof in the pudding.
Good luck,
Jack
e web.
Frankly I'd be more interested in a video player (just a few common
codecs that's all) than a modern web browser.
-Jack
e is no Limbo
either. I could be wrong.
-Jack
that you wrote? Sounds interesting.
You don't do any of this dev on Plan 9 do you?
I've got a pile of atmega168's and a icsp flasher board + some flasher
made by olimex. I've just been using avr-gcc. Haven't touched it in a
while though.
-Jack
ike to boot this thing without all those
workarounds (though it runs great -- well ran great...).
All in all, I think they've got a working setup for Plan 9 hosting. So
my current troubles aside, this is big news.
-Jack
Stanley Lieber wrote:
On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Jack Norton wrote:
erik quanstrom wrote:
On Sun Mar 6 22:33:33 EST 2011, stanley.lie...@gmail.com wrote:
9atom's 9load prints "%d e820 entries" on boot. is that number 0?
found 7 e8s0 entries
Then it freezes.
it'
plugged into it, so I naively put
"ether0=type=igbe" in plan9.ini.
Now it hangs right where 9load would normally say "no ethernet devices
found" or something similar.
How odd.
-Jack
support and waiting up to 24 hours for a response. I've been told
allowing users to dynamically change CD-ROM images is not an option.
Jack:
If you reading this, do you want to try this with your cron-swapped floppy
images?
-sl
I would be willing, definitely. However, I am committed to finis
excess options.
The support guy set up a cron job to update the floppy image from me, so
I can try lots of different stuff (provided it fits in 1.44MB).
Thanks,
Jack
nd
of my abilities, so you'll have to pick it up from there.
I'll know tomorrow how my install goes.
I do know where exactly it does hang, but it's my bedtime. I'll have to
drawterm into my cpu server and check my notes again to post where
exactly the boot hung.
Cheers,
Jack
Jacob Todd wrote:
Does inferno have support for (a) webcam(s)? Or are you using linux for
capturing things from the webcam?
On Feb 25, 2011 9:14 AM, "Jack Norton" <mailto:j...@0x6a.com>> wrote:
> Jason Dreisbach wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Can anyone
the bat I
need a webcam. I also need to prototype this very quickly so mucking
about in hardware drivers and OS nuances is not an option.
Sounds like fun! I'm curious what you come up with!
-Jack
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 9:48 AM, Francisco J Ballesteros wrote:
> FTS, I'm interesting in getting Go here because I'm going to write
> the i.e. window system (successor of o/live, o/mero, ...) also in go, to run
> at least the viewer native on unix systems. The C version is still cooking.
Is ther
re a
multitude of facets that affect that choice, and having a multiplicity
of licensing options may improve the fecundity/fidelity/longevity of
said code in more complex ways than can be readily surmised from the
previous perspective.
-Jack (continuing to contribute nothing to the good of the order)
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Nick LaForge wrote:
>>Kinda puts MS and EFF in the same camp.
>
> You mean FSF?
Whoops, yes, FSF.
-Jack
nsing.
Really there are just two kinds of licenses: ones that allow
relicensing and ones that don't. Kinda puts MS and EFF in the same
camp.
-Jack
On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 8:48 AM, Federico G. Benavento
wrote:
> p2c (pascal 2 c)
Anyone ever peek at one of the Oberon to C compliers? Or maybe the
Oxford stuff?
http://spivey.oriel.ox.ac.uk/corner/Oxford_Oberon-2_compiler
-Jack
that mindshare? Probably
not.
I'm naively hoping Go will eventually take us to some future middle
ground where folks can dabble in a shared sandbox of sanity from both
sides of the fence.
-Jack
war," please kick me off
the list, please.
-Jack
vability (as I talk out my ass).
-Jack
this weekend's
Easter festivities. Thanks!
Maybe I should procrastinate more often
-Jack
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Jack Johnson wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 6:17 PM, Patrick Kelly wrote:
> around with relatively few upgrades for the past 420 billion years or
s/billion/million/
-Jack
other more popular OSes are evidence of progress, it's
interesting to consider the idea of success. The millipede has been
around with relatively few upgrades for the past 420 billion years or
so. It would be hard to call it unsuccessful, even though it can't
(yet?) effectively run, jump, or fly.
-Jack
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 5:54 AM, andrey mirtchovski
wrote:
> try as you might, the irony is unescapable (see the attached "helpful"
> suggestion by google).
It sounds like a competition.
"Write a program that, when translated by Google into Czech, still
produces valid output."
-Jack
Thanks to Google's targeted ads:
http://www.eglobalwireless.com/p-4333-new-7-mini-netbook-laptop-notebook-wifi-windows-2gb-hd.aspx
Also might make a good Inferno device if WinCE isn't too firmly ensconced.
-Jack
l to do with Plan 9 -
> setting/unsetting the ring tone to/from silent in a cron job.
I would like my ringtone volume to adjust periodically to the ambient
noise, which also seems fairly trivial.
What did you folks with bitsies and iPAQs find useful? Any of you
still packing one?
-Jack
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 8:10 AM, Jack Johnson wrote:
> Off-topic-ish, that 320x240 screen is probably the biggest challenge,
> trying to find some usable UI in that space. I think the idea of a
> native Inferno port is great.
Sorry, last of the blather. It also seems ideal for Octop
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 7:53 AM, Jack Johnson wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 5:54 AM, wrote:
>>> http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/qi-hardwares-tiny-hackable-ben-nanonote-now-shipping/
>>
>> Okay, Maht. You just cost me $125 :) I just couldn't resist.
>
>
i-hardware.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_in_Nanonote
-Jack
t my brain loves a trackpad for some reason.
I keep thinking I want one of these for a desktop machine, but I'd
still probably need a mouse hanging around, too:
http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/MIGR-45849.html
Plus, Mac 2-finger scrolling has ruined me.
-Jack
the 'book open, face up' with camera's from
afar method.
-Jack
At least not from what I have seen.
-Jack
Antonio Hernández Blas wrote:
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Jack Norton wrote:
Jacob Todd wrote:
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 04:28:20PM -0700, Sam'l B wrote:
Is anyone working on making them play nice together? Is it
possible, even?
I get slightly farther
'l B.
(User, not Programmer)
Plan 9 works fine in qemu on both windows (xp at least) and linux.
I will vouch for plan 9 working in qemu in windows 7 rc. There is even
a nice qemu gui that gives you a virtualbox-like experience (I forget
the name -- could it be kqemu?).
-Jack
3.0.x for some x. I haven't checked how much
the Xen API has changed for 3.2 -- do try recompiling and see what
happens! > of the source files are no longer >world readable Sorry, my
fault. Fixed now. -- Richard
-Jack
However, I end up with the same conclusion: why? Is the 'grid' that
distracting? Also, if you have two text files open side-by-side, and
your lines are long enough to wrap, you would have a glob of
incomprehensible text in the middle. I think at least a moderately
thick grid is a necessary evil.
-jack
s that on OSX I can use jack daemon and
get low latency audio right out of the box and on windows I can use low
latency drivers such as ASIO and the newer WaveRT. It's even more
tragic as there are tons of great linux audio tools, but they are a hard
sale because you need to apply the r
our IT dep (all two people...) that
they should try and spread out the drives used among different mfg dates
and batches. It shocked me to know that this was news to them...
-Jack
n
source. I don't think something this large can benifit anymore from
open source (as in open 'all the time' to anyone, everywhere -- as
opposed to let's say apple's version of open source dev). The
development scheme just doesn't scale.
In any event, I'm still waiting for the damn thing to fork...
-Jack
the emacs of media players (in that it is all encompassing, there is a
church/cult, etc...).
Just about the simplest way to play audio on a computer, save for the
methods in plan9 :) (I'm _trying_ to get us back on topic...)
Ok I'm done.
-Jack
right, as opposed to Linux and related
software, which are developed, almost from the ground up, as open
source. This is the impression I get anyway.
-Jack
... open source
development? It seems like they release code only after they are damn
sure they've gotten all they can out of it.
So, is Linux the unwanted poster-child of open source development? I
think an argument could be made.
-Jack
Russ Cox wrote:
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 8:50 AM, Jack Norton wrote:
So when you create a Venti volume, it basically writes '0's' to all the
blocks of the underlying device right?
In case anyone decides to try the experiment,
venti hasn't done this for a few years.
t in the past).
If linux is my raid controller, I know that it is _very_ picky about how
long a drive takes to respond and will fail a drive if it has to wait
too long.
By the way I am currently buying a few pieces of cheap hardware to
implement my own diskless fileserver. Should be ready to go in about a
couple of weeks.
-Jack
round between topics in the same thread.
What might be cool is to have an entire year, or an entire months worth
of messages downloadable in mbox or similar format. Then you could use
your mail reader to view (which consequently may be able to give you
that threaded view).
-Jack
the filesystem).
Sorry for thinking out loud... I should get back to work anyway fun
thread though.
-Jack
Thanks in advance for patience involving my questions :)
-Jack
Brian L. Stuart wrote:
Just getting something to happen might be training, but it sure isn't
education.
Thats the best one-liner I have ever heard on the subject.
-Jack
it has to perform as well, or better.
Or put another way: your boss wants you to compete with backblaze using
only plan9 and (let's say) a _large_ budget. Go!
-Jack
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