Re: Another option for securing VNC communication

2001-04-02 Thread Tim Waugh

On Sun, Apr 01, 2001 at 11:00:40PM -0700, Dave Dyer wrote:

> It's a free, secure, and completely transparent FTP proxy.

Free of charge, but non-redistributable.

It also unfortunately has the same name as the sftp that comes with
OpenSSH.

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RE: Accessing VNC Server from a browser

2001-04-02 Thread John Clegg

OK, I submit. I have read everything FAQish I can find, and I have even got
browser access to work sometimes. So, I am left with just one question - is
it different for Tridia??

> -Original Message-
> From: Corey Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 2:19 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Accessing VNC Server from a browser
> 
> 
> Try http://XXX:5800 where XXX is the name of the machine in your web
> browser.  Make sure you have installed the vnc as a service 
> on the machine.
> That should be about it.
> 
> Corey
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bil Joga
> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 1:06 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Accessing VNC Server from a browser
> 
> 
> I forgot to mention that the server is on Windows 2000 
> professional and I'm
> trying to access from the same. This is a basic question, but 
> once the VNC
> server is loaded and running, there shouldn't be anything 
> else to configure
> to allow access, right? You should be able to just type in the URL and
> kaboom, you have access. The network I'm on doesn't have any firewalls
> between them. As a matter of fact, they are sitting 
> side-by-side and are
> configured exactly the same, just for more info.
> 
> Thanks, for any help.
> 
> Bil
> 
> >5800 is valid vor win32, for UNIX/Linux, use 580x where 
> x=the vnc instance
> 
> >Use :5800
> 
> >I am wanting to access VNC server using a web browser. I haven't been
> >successful in making that happen. I've searched the archives and
> >documentation regarding this issue and haven't seen anything 
> regarding
> >an
> >error I'm getting.
> >
> >Using http://www.mydomain.com:5900 I get the following errors when
> >attempting to access my computer via a web browser:
> >
> >Netscape Communicator 4.7
> >Unknown status reply from server: 3!
> >
> >IE 5.5
> >Invalid syntax error
> >
> >If anyone has an idea that I can try, I would appreciate it. 
> My server
> >settings are straight out of the can:
> >Accept Socket connections: Yes
> >Display number: Auto, but I've tried 0, too.
> >
> >I can access the VNC server using the viewer.
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Multiple viewers to Win 95

2001-04-02 Thread Rodney Carr

Hi.

I'm sure this must have bee asked before, but I can't find it in the FAQ

I'm running a WinVNC Server on a Windows 95 machine and want multiple users to
be able to view my screen at the same time (I've clicked "Disable Remote
Keyboard & Pointer" on the server so they can only view the screen). But
whenever a new viewer connects the other clients get disconnected. This
happens with both the VNC viewer and when they use a web browser. Please, what
am I doing wrong?

Thanks
Rodney

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Re: Accessing VNC Server from a browser

2001-04-02 Thread James ''Wez'' Weatherall

> OK, I submit. I have read everything FAQish I can find, and I have even
got
> browser access to work sometimes. So, I am left with just one question -
is
> it different for Tridia??

Have you tried pointing the browser at http://computer:5800?  You should get
a different response from pointing it at http://computer:5900.  Can you
telnet to ports 5900 and 5800 on the problem machine?  Bear in mind that
Tridia don't seem to provide the Java viewer anymore.

Cheers,

JNW @ AT&T Labs
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Hide VNC service

2001-04-02 Thread Jaroslav . Fikker

Hello.

I have install WinVNC on my Windows NT workstation. Is it possible hide a
running WinVNC service from list od services (Control Panel - Services, NET
START)? Thank you very much for your answer.

J. Fikker
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RE: Multiple viewers to Win 95

2001-04-02 Thread Michael Erdely

In addition to the FAQ, there's a really cool thing called
Documentation: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/winvnc.html

Search for "ConnectPriority"

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Hi.

I'm sure this must have bee asked before, but I can't find it in the
FAQ

I'm running a WinVNC Server on a Windows 95 machine and want multiple
users to be able to view my screen at the same time (I've clicked
"Disable Remote Keyboard & Pointer" on the server so they can only view
the screen). But whenever a new viewer connects the other clients get
disconnected. This happens with both the VNC viewer and when they use a
web browser. Please, what am I doing wrong?

Thanks
Rodney

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licnese

2001-04-02 Thread Mateo Turanzas

Hi i need to buy any license to use de VNC
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Re: licnese

2001-04-02 Thread Tim Waugh

On Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 11:38:45AM -0500, Mateo Turanzas wrote:

> Hi i need to buy any license to use de VNC

You don't need a license to use (or modify, or redistribute) VNC,
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Clarification - pcanywhere functionality

2001-04-02 Thread Mozhdeh Malakan

hello everyone,

thanks to all who wrote.  yes I am trying to snoop and display what is happening on 
another unix box.  we are not going to spy on other users, just trying to teach people 
who are don't know the particular unix application.

here is the clarification:  run an application like HP Openview on solaris box and 
remotely just connect to that unix box and all the HP Openview GUIes gets displayed on 
the remote machine and what ever someone is doing on Sun box gets displayed on the VNC 
client.  what we don't want to do is to use PC with VNC and start the OpenView there.  
we are going to take PC user as just someone who watches the action.  Someone else on 
unix box will move cursors and work with Openview and all the activities gets 
displayed on PC box.

thank you very much.
mozhdeh



At 05:49 AM 03/31/2001 -0800, you wrote:
>A windows box only runs one gui session and is not a
>multiuser environment in the same way that Unix is. A
>Unix box can run many X Windows sessions. So, if you
>have a vncserver running on a windows box, there is
>only one gui for it to "watch" so to speak. Becuase X
>is not so tightly coupled to the Unix OS, when you
>start a vncserver on Unix it is really starting it's
>own X session separate and discreet from any other X
>session on the box. It is possible to "snoop" an
>Xsession or vnc session. Are you trying to see what
>the users are doing? That seems like an invasion of
>privacy to me. :-(
>
>--- Mozhdeh Malakan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> You have advertised the similar functionality as
>> PCanywhere, and my boss want me to make this work. 
>> what he likes is to have all activities that someone
>> does on unix box gets displayed remotely on the VNC
>> client box which is a PC.  
>> 
>> we have solaris boxes and I have installed VNC on
>> them; however the VNC viewer doesn't bring the GUIes
>> that are running on solaris box in to a PC window. 
>> is this possible?
>> 
>> From a PC with VNC viewer I can connect to unix box
>> and start any application with its own Gui that I
>> like; however we are looking for an interactive
>> functionality that PCanywhere brings, which captures
>> all the  windows from one PC into another PC.
>> 
>> Thank you very much.
>> mozhdeh
>>
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RE: Clarification - pcanywhere functionality

2001-04-02 Thread Dave Gotwisner

Here is a suggestion.  Let your users run X, as they normally would, and run
a VNC client application on their desktop to connect to a VNC server (which
may also be on their same machine).  Shadow that VNC server by running a VNC
client on your desktop.  Run the Unix application in the VNC desktop, which
is within both of your desktops.

Dave

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> From: Mozhdeh Malakan[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 9:48 AM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  Clarification - pcanywhere functionality
> 
> hello everyone,
> 
> thanks to all who wrote.  yes I am trying to snoop and display what is
> happening on another unix box.  we are not going to spy on other users,
> just trying to teach people who are don't know the particular unix
> application.
> 
> here is the clarification:  run an application like HP Openview on solaris
> box and remotely just connect to that unix box and all the HP Openview
> GUIes gets displayed on the remote machine and what ever someone is doing
> on Sun box gets displayed on the VNC client.  what we don't want to do is
> to use PC with VNC and start the OpenView there.  we are going to take PC
> user as just someone who watches the action.  Someone else on unix box
> will move cursors and work with Openview and all the activities gets
> displayed on PC box.
> 
> thank you very much.
> mozhdeh
> 
> 
> 
> At 05:49 AM 03/31/2001 -0800, you wrote:
> >A windows box only runs one gui session and is not a
> >multiuser environment in the same way that Unix is. A
> >Unix box can run many X Windows sessions. So, if you
> >have a vncserver running on a windows box, there is
> >only one gui for it to "watch" so to speak. Becuase X
> >is not so tightly coupled to the Unix OS, when you
> >start a vncserver on Unix it is really starting it's
> >own X session separate and discreet from any other X
> >session on the box. It is possible to "snoop" an
> >Xsession or vnc session. Are you trying to see what
> >the users are doing? That seems like an invasion of
> >privacy to me. :-(
> >
> >--- Mozhdeh Malakan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> You have advertised the similar functionality as
> >> PCanywhere, and my boss want me to make this work. 
> >> what he likes is to have all activities that someone
> >> does on unix box gets displayed remotely on the VNC
> >> client box which is a PC.  
> >> 
> >> we have solaris boxes and I have installed VNC on
> >> them; however the VNC viewer doesn't bring the GUIes
> >> that are running on solaris box in to a PC window. 
> >> is this possible?
> >> 
> >> From a PC with VNC viewer I can connect to unix box
> >> and start any application with its own Gui that I
> >> like; however we are looking for an interactive
> >> functionality that PCanywhere brings, which captures
> >> all the  windows from one PC into another PC.
> >> 
> >> Thank you very much.
> >> mozhdeh
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RE: Clarification - pcanywhere functionality

2001-04-02 Thread Dan de Haan

from the conrtib page on VNC's site there is a link to:

http://www.hexonet.de/software/rfb/

This will do what you want.

-Dan

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Sent: April 2, 2001 9:48 AM
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Subject: Clarification - pcanywhere functionality


hello everyone,

thanks to all who wrote.  yes I am trying to snoop and display what is
happening on another unix box.  we are not going to spy on other users, just
trying to teach people who are don't know the particular unix application.

here is the clarification:  run an application like HP Openview on solaris
box and remotely just connect to that unix box and all the HP Openview GUIes
gets displayed on the remote machine and what ever someone is doing on Sun
box gets displayed on the VNC client.  what we don't want to do is to use PC
with VNC and start the OpenView there.  we are going to take PC user as just
someone who watches the action.  Someone else on unix box will move cursors
and work with Openview and all the activities gets displayed on PC box.

thank you very much.
mozhdeh



At 05:49 AM 03/31/2001 -0800, you wrote:
>A windows box only runs one gui session and is not a
>multiuser environment in the same way that Unix is. A
>Unix box can run many X Windows sessions. So, if you
>have a vncserver running on a windows box, there is
>only one gui for it to "watch" so to speak. Becuase X
>is not so tightly coupled to the Unix OS, when you
>start a vncserver on Unix it is really starting it's
>own X session separate and discreet from any other X
>session on the box. It is possible to "snoop" an
>Xsession or vnc session. Are you trying to see what
>the users are doing? That seems like an invasion of
>privacy to me. :-(
>
>--- Mozhdeh Malakan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> You have advertised the similar functionality as
>> PCanywhere, and my boss want me to make this work. 
>> what he likes is to have all activities that someone
>> does on unix box gets displayed remotely on the VNC
>> client box which is a PC.  
>> 
>> we have solaris boxes and I have installed VNC on
>> them; however the VNC viewer doesn't bring the GUIes
>> that are running on solaris box in to a PC window. 
>> is this possible?
>> 
>> From a PC with VNC viewer I can connect to unix box
>> and start any application with its own Gui that I
>> like; however we are looking for an interactive
>> functionality that PCanywhere brings, which captures
>> all the  windows from one PC into another PC.
>> 
>> Thank you very much.
>> mozhdeh
>>
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Win32 starting service.

2001-04-02 Thread andy

I'm a bit confused here, and quite frustrated at Trividias non-existent
basic installation support.

I am administrator of a domain over 1000 miles away, and until today was
using PcAnywhere for remote access. Security policies dictated that pcA's
ports be closed so now I only have port 80 and 25 to work through.

Last week while pcA was working, I installed VNC, or thought I had. It
exists in "Program Files", but I cannot start the service as it isn't
installed.

Fortunately I wrote a secure cgi-system to be able to issue system
commands through the webserver to cope with this eventuality.
I can do net start/stop, reboot, update the registry etc, upload and
download any file with this, except control a gui program.
Physical presence is not an option.

Any clues on how to get the service installed, running and listening on
port 80?

Cheers,
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Re: Clarification - pcanywhere functionality

2001-04-02 Thread Mac Reiter

At 09:48 AM 4/2/01 -0700, you wrote:
>hello everyone,
>
>thanks to all who wrote.  yes I am trying to snoop and display what is
happening on another unix box.  we are not going to spy on other users,
just trying to teach people who are don't know the particular unix
application.
>
>here is the clarification:  run an application like HP Openview on solaris
box and remotely just connect to that unix box and all the HP Openview
GUIes gets displayed on the remote machine and what ever someone is doing
on Sun box gets displayed on the VNC client.  what we don't want to do is
to use PC with VNC and start the OpenView there.  we are going to take PC
user as just someone who watches the action.  Someone else on unix box will
move cursors and work with Openview and all the activities gets displayed
on PC box.
>
>thank you very much.
>mozhdeh

Run the x0rfbserver system on your Solaris box.  It will act like a normal
VNC server, except that it views and controls display :0 (the normal one
that the HP user sees).  This server must be installed on the Solaris box.
Once that is done, any VNC viewer can watch.  I believe that the VNC
servers (and thus the x0rfbserver) have options for disabling remote
keyboard and mouse, so that the VNC viewer people can only watch, not control.

I have not actually used the x0rfbserver system myself, so if you have a
problem, someone else on the list will have to help...

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RE: Clarification - pcanywhere functionality

2001-04-02 Thread Mozhdeh Malakan

please share the commands to accomplish this. I don't know how to do this.
thank you

At 10:52 AM 04/02/2001 -0700, Dave Gotwisner wrote:
>Here is a suggestion.  Let your users run X, as they normally would, and run
>a VNC client application on their desktop to connect to a VNC server (which
>may also be on their same machine).  Shadow that VNC server by running a VNC
>client on your desktop.  Run the Unix application in the VNC desktop, which
>is within both of your desktops.
>
>Dave
>
>> --
>> From: Mozhdeh Malakan[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 9:48 AM
>> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject:  Clarification - pcanywhere functionality
>> 
>> hello everyone,
>> 
>> thanks to all who wrote.  yes I am trying to snoop and display what is
>> happening on another unix box.  we are not going to spy on other users,
>> just trying to teach people who are don't know the particular unix
>> application.
>> 
>> here is the clarification:  run an application like HP Openview on solaris
>> box and remotely just connect to that unix box and all the HP Openview
>> GUIes gets displayed on the remote machine and what ever someone is doing
>> on Sun box gets displayed on the VNC client.  what we don't want to do is
>> to use PC with VNC and start the OpenView there.  we are going to take PC
>> user as just someone who watches the action.  Someone else on unix box
>> will move cursors and work with Openview and all the activities gets
>> displayed on PC box.
>> 
>> thank you very much.
>> mozhdeh
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> At 05:49 AM 03/31/2001 -0800, you wrote:
>> >A windows box only runs one gui session and is not a
>> >multiuser environment in the same way that Unix is. A
>> >Unix box can run many X Windows sessions. So, if you
>> >have a vncserver running on a windows box, there is
>> >only one gui for it to "watch" so to speak. Becuase X
>> >is not so tightly coupled to the Unix OS, when you
>> >start a vncserver on Unix it is really starting it's
>> >own X session separate and discreet from any other X
>> >session on the box. It is possible to "snoop" an
>> >Xsession or vnc session. Are you trying to see what
>> >the users are doing? That seems like an invasion of
>> >privacy to me. :-(
>> >
>> >--- Mozhdeh Malakan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> You have advertised the similar functionality as
>> >> PCanywhere, and my boss want me to make this work. 
>> >> what he likes is to have all activities that someone
>> >> does on unix box gets displayed remotely on the VNC
>> >> client box which is a PC.  
>> >> 
>> >> we have solaris boxes and I have installed VNC on
>> >> them; however the VNC viewer doesn't bring the GUIes
>> >> that are running on solaris box in to a PC window. 
>> >> is this possible?
>> >> 
>> >> From a PC with VNC viewer I can connect to unix box
>> >> and start any application with its own Gui that I
>> >> like; however we are looking for an interactive
>> >> functionality that PCanywhere brings, which captures
>> >> all the  windows from one PC into another PC.
>> >> 
>> >> Thank you very much.
>> >> mozhdeh
>> >>
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RE: Clarification - pcanywhere functionality

2001-04-02 Thread Mac Reiter

At 10:52 AM 4/2/01 -0700, you wrote:
>Here is a suggestion.  Let your users run X, as they normally would, and run
>a VNC client application on their desktop to connect to a VNC server (which
>may also be on their same machine).  Shadow that VNC server by running a VNC
>client on your desktop.  Run the Unix application in the VNC desktop, which
>is within both of your desktops.

Ouch...  It works, but it's a little contorted and potentially confusing
for the guy at the Solaris box...
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Second password for user vs. admin?

2001-04-02 Thread Dave Kolb

I could not find this in the FAQ and am a newbie to VNC and am wondering if there are 
any mods to add a second password so the user can have one password and Admins 
another. We do not want a user to have the admin password where they can go to 
everyone else's machines. Any other password related modifications to prevent internal 
abuse? Thanks, Dave

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copy files?

2001-04-02 Thread Harvey Waxman

Newbie question although I think I might know the answer.

Is it possible to copy files from one machine to another?  It appears 
that this can't be done from one mac to another.  I have tried 
turning on file sharing which does enable drag and drop but this 
interface is so much nicer.
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Re: Accessing VNC Server from a browser

2001-04-02 Thread Bil Joga

>Can you telnet to ports 5900 and 5800 on the problem machine?  Bear in 
>mind that
>Tridia don't seem to provide the Java viewer anymore.
I've tried this. I'm inclined to believe the last statement. Thanks 
everyone for all of the answers.

Regards,
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Re: copy files?

2001-04-02 Thread Jacob Kuntz

from the secret journal of Harvey Waxman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> Is it possible to copy files from one machine to another?  It appears 
> that this can't be done from one mac to another.  I have tried 
> turning on file sharing which does enable drag and drop but this 
> interface is so much nicer.
> 

sorry. vnc is remote desktop access only. you might look into ftp or http
solutions.

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Cannot load Xfont helvb12

2001-04-02 Thread Tor Bye Andersen

I am running VNCserver on a solaris box (2.6) using CDE. When I try to launch
an application from a
PC based VNC viewer, I get
the following error :

-cannot load Xfont 

This error message comes from our proprietary application, so it shouldn't be
recognizable
for others.
But it originates from a call to XLoadQueryFont(Xio.DspPtr, "helvb12")

I have tried with various font paths;
{/usr/openwin/lib/X1/fonts/}[F3,F3bitmaps,Type1, Speedo, misc,75dpi, 100dpi]
but to no avail.
I have also tried having a font server running on my solaris box (xfs on port
6100), in which case I
defined my font path in the vncserver wrapper script:
$cmd .= "-fp tcp/localhost:6100";

It seems that no request is being made to the server, because I have
configured it with an error log, which
remains empty, regardless how many times I try to launch the application.

If I launch the same application from a native window on the solaris box, the
font problem vanishes.

Any clues ? Your help will be appreciated.

Tor


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Setting up win32 vncserver completely from command line?

2001-04-02 Thread andy

I need to set this up remotely and using the command line only.

I got the service installed and running on the webserver, but only have
ports 80 and 25 available.
Netstat shows that it's listening on port 5900 as expected.

I need to configure the VNC server just by using command lines.
It needs a password and needs to run on port 80. This worries me, because
the webserver (IIS4) already has this.
The FAQ (http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/faq.html#q53) says that it's
possible, but
"You obviously can't run a VNC server on a port that's already being used
for other things. "
This is less than useful on a live webserver!

This would mean that I would have to stop the web server in order to use
VNC and then restart it again when finished.
This is a last resort, and would mean I have to work on the server at
night, (which I already do anyway!).

Anyone any ideas on configuring VNC server using command lines? Or, do I
have to edit the registry using command lines instead?

Cheers,
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Re: Setting up win32 vncserver completely from command line?

2001-04-02 Thread Mac Reiter

>"You obviously can't run a VNC server on a port that's already being used
>for other things. "
>This is less than useful on a live webserver!

The fundamental nature of TCP/IP says that you CANNOT have two different
services listening on the same port.  Which service would respond to
connection requests?

You'll either have to configure VNC to use port 25 (assuming IIS doesn't
have a Telnet service there) or you'll have to open another port on the
firewall.

If you attempt to put a second server on an existing, in-use port, the
second server will receive an error from the TCP/IP system (WinSock, in the
case of Windows), and will be unable to bind to that port.  Even if it did
work, you would get interesting behavior.  Some people who tried to web
browse to that machine would receive the VNC protocol welcome ("RFB 3.3", I
think...), and other people who tried to use VNC would get a "Unable to
connect to server" when IIS jumped in and handed out "HTTP 1.0"...
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Re: Setting up win32 vncserver completely from command line?

2001-04-02 Thread andy

Thanks very much,

This is what I thought I knew already... but I still need to try and
configure port and password via command lines or registry entries without
using any GUI as my admin interface is just a web browser at the moment.

>You'll either have to configure VNC to use port 25 (assuming IIS doesn't
>have a Telnet service there) or you'll have to open another port on the
>firewall.
Used for mail unfortunately...

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Re: Setting up win32 vncserver completely from command line?

2001-04-02 Thread Joseph A. Knapka

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> 
> Thanks very much,
> 
> This is what I thought I knew already... but I still need to try and
> configure port and password via command lines or registry entries without
> using any GUI as my admin interface is just a web browser at the moment.
> 
> >You'll either have to configure VNC to use port 25 (assuming IIS doesn't
> >have a Telnet service there) or you'll have to open another port on the
> >firewall.
> Used for mail unfortunately...

In this situation I think the best answer available at present is
to install an SSH server on the firewall, and allow SSH connections
from the Internet to the firewall (but not necessarily to machines
behind the firewall). Then use SSH tunnels to handle VNC connections.
This is fairly easy to set up (instructions are available on the
VNC web site http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc ), though it
is a bit of a hassle.

Of course, if you don't have access to the firewall, or the
administrator perversely refuses to allow SSH connections, you
are SOL. But I would argue that, since you *must* open some
port, all other things being equal, the SSH port (22) is the
best candidate from a security perspective (and I assume
you are security conscious, given the existing firewall setup).

-- Joe

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> Andy.
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Server release 3.3.3R9

2001-04-02 Thread Eben Sutton

I was a more-or-less contented user of VNC 3.3.3R7 for WinNT.  When 3.3.3R8
came out with the socket leak fix, I was ecstatic until I discovered the
AuthHosts problem, so I installed 3.3.3R9 as soon as it was posted.

Unfortunately, I now get exactly 1 logon (reproduced across servers of
different manufacturers, though all NT4 SP6a-based) before the VNC Service
or Executable, if running in App Mode, Dr. Watsons.  I've tried this on
servers doing a "clean" install (uninstall, delete folders, then reinstall)
and installing over the previous version, with the same results.  I've tried
accessing the servers via a 3.3.3R2 VNCviewer, a 3.3.3R3 VNCviewer, and the
WEB plug-in viewer with the same results.

Anyone else having this problem?  I'd appreciate any suggestions you might
have.  Thanks.

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Re: Setting up win32 vncserver completely from command line?

2001-04-02 Thread Harmen van der Wal

"Joseph A. Knapka" wrote:

> Of course, if you don't have access to the firewall, or the
> administrator perversely refuses to allow SSH connections, you
> are SOL. But I would argue that, since you *must* open some
> port, all other things being equal, the SSH port (22) is the
> best candidate from a security perspective (and I assume
> you are security conscious, given the existing firewall setup).

If *all-else-fails*, it should be possible to use cgi on the webserver
for http tunneling the connection.

Or else take a look at http://www.detached.net/mailtunnel/desc.html for
a more exotic solution;-)

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RE: Multiple viewers to Win 95

2001-04-02 Thread Graham Downs

I think what you may be after is a checkbox in the viewer options labelled
"Request Shared Session". All clients have to have this option checked.

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Hi.

I'm sure this must have bee asked before, but I can't find it in the FAQ

I'm running a WinVNC Server on a Windows 95 machine and want multiple users
to
be able to view my screen at the same time (I've clicked "Disable Remote
Keyboard & Pointer" on the server so they can only view the screen). But
whenever a new viewer connects the other clients get disconnected. This
happens with both the VNC viewer and when they use a web browser. Please,
what
am I doing wrong?

Thanks
Rodney

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Re: Setting up win32 vncserver completely from command line?

2001-04-02 Thread andy

On Mon, 02 Apr 2001 17:25:55 -0600, you wrote:

>Of course, if you don't have access to the firewall, or the
>administrator perversely refuses to allow SSH connections, you
>are SOL. But I would argue that, since you *must* open some
>port, all other things being equal, the SSH port (22) is the
>best candidate from a security perspective (and I assume
>you are security conscious, given the existing firewall setup).

Any other port is out of the question. I was pleased to be able to keep a
pcAnywhere port open long enough to do the bulk of the development, but I
had to give in to political pressures and conform to security policy. I
couldn't remain an exception for ever.
I got vnc working here on my network using standard ports, but need to
configure the server to operate on something else than the standard.

I could stop the smtp service temporarily I suppose. I can't individually
stop port 80 OR 81 with a "net stop w3svc" as I'd then lose my lifeline.

Question is, how do I configure the vnc server to listen on 25?
I can then issue a command over http to run a batch file to stop the smtp
service then start vnc. I can then use a vnc session over port 25, then
when finished, issue another command over http to stop vnc then restart
smtp.
I can update the vnc settings with a registry set over http, but I cannot
see how to set the listen port for it.
On my system here, the GUI won't allow me to enter -5875!

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RE: Clarification - pcanywhere functionality

2001-04-02 Thread Dave Gotwisner

I am not sure exactly how with the current version of VNC, what I use is
rather old (3.3.2 on Linux), so the details may be a little different.
Also, I don't run OpenView (no Sun), so the exact window manager invocation
may be a little different..

First, you would install both VNC server and VNC client on the Sun machine.

Assign a password for VNC, using vncpasswd.  This is NOT a user password, it
is a password to connect to VNC.

Modify the VNC server perl script for your use.  Probably, all you will need
to change is the $defaultXStartup code towards the top of the file.  The
version I have runs xrdb, xsetroot, xterm, and a window manager (twm).  Look
through the archives of this list, someone may have put in a version which
runs open view.

Launch this server.  If this server is running on the machine
"mozhdeh.cisco.com", and there IS an X server running, and there are no
other VNC servers running, it will probably be server :1, the vncviewer
string would be something like: "vncviewer -shared mozhdeh.cisco.com:1".
The server will tell you the string to use when you start it (my server says
"New 'X' desktop is warrior:1"), my command would be "vncviewer -shared
warrior:1".  The -shared is required to allow everyone to connect to the
same desktop.  Everyone running this command will be prompted for passwords,
use the one entered above, and you should then be able to share the same
"desktop".  Note that this client will then show up as a window on
everyone's workstations/PCs.  The clients can be Unix or Windows clients, it
doesn't matter.

I hope this helps.

Dave

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> From: Mozhdeh Malakan[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 10:59 AM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  RE: Clarification - pcanywhere functionality
> 
> please share the commands to accomplish this. I don't know how to do this.
> thank you
> 
> At 10:52 AM 04/02/2001 -0700, Dave Gotwisner wrote:
> >Here is a suggestion.  Let your users run X, as they normally would, and
> run
> >a VNC client application on their desktop to connect to a VNC server
> (which
> >may also be on their same machine).  Shadow that VNC server by running a
> VNC
> >client on your desktop.  Run the Unix application in the VNC desktop,
> which
> >is within both of your desktops.
> >
> >Dave
> >
> >> --
> >> From: Mozhdeh Malakan[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >> Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 9:48 AM
> >> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Subject:  Clarification - pcanywhere functionality
> >> 
> >> hello everyone,
> >> 
> >> thanks to all who wrote.  yes I am trying to snoop and display what is
> >> happening on another unix box.  we are not going to spy on other users,
> >> just trying to teach people who are don't know the particular unix
> >> application.
> >> 
> >> here is the clarification:  run an application like HP Openview on
> solaris
> >> box and remotely just connect to that unix box and all the HP Openview
> >> GUIes gets displayed on the remote machine and what ever someone is
> doing
> >> on Sun box gets displayed on the VNC client.  what we don't want to do
> is
> >> to use PC with VNC and start the OpenView there.  we are going to take
> PC
> >> user as just someone who watches the action.  Someone else on unix box
> >> will move cursors and work with Openview and all the activities gets
> >> displayed on PC box.
> >> 
> >> thank you very much.
> >> mozhdeh
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> At 05:49 AM 03/31/2001 -0800, you wrote:
> >> >A windows box only runs one gui session and is not a
> >> >multiuser environment in the same way that Unix is. A
> >> >Unix box can run many X Windows sessions. So, if you
> >> >have a vncserver running on a windows box, there is
> >> >only one gui for it to "watch" so to speak. Becuase X
> >> >is not so tightly coupled to the Unix OS, when you
> >> >start a vncserver on Unix it is really starting it's
> >> >own X session separate and discreet from any other X
> >> >session on the box. It is possible to "snoop" an
> >> >Xsession or vnc session. Are you trying to see what
> >> >the users are doing? That seems like an invasion of
> >> >privacy to me. :-(
> >> >
> >> >--- Mozhdeh Malakan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >> You have advertised the similar functionality as
> >> >> PCanywhere, and my boss want me to make this work. 
> >> >> what he likes is to have all activities that someone
> >> >> does on unix box gets displayed remotely on the VNC
> >> >> client box which is a PC.  
> >> >> 
> >> >> we have solaris boxes and I have installed VNC on
> >> >> them; however the VNC viewer doesn't bring the GUIes
> >> >> that are running on solaris box in to a PC window. 
> >> >> is this possible?
> >> >> 
> >> >> From a PC with VNC viewer I can connect to unix box
> >> >> and start any application with its own Gui that I
> >> >> like; however we are looking for an interactive
> >> >

Re: Setting up win32 vncserver completely from command line?

2001-04-02 Thread andy

On Tue, 03 Apr 2001 02:40:47 +0200, you wrote:

>If *all-else-fails*, it should be possible to use cgi on the webserver
>for http tunneling the connection.
A lot of development distracting from the core requirement which is to
administrate a website! (no ftp either!), just port 25, 80, 81, NTACL.

>Or else take a look at http://www.detached.net/mailtunnel/desc.html for
>a more exotic solution;-)
Nice!
I wrote something to help with remote admin using mail so I could admin
the site using SMS from my mobile from really remote places, but certainly
not as a TCP/IP stack!
It remains a valid option though!

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running linux apps (other than xterm) on windows client

2001-04-02 Thread Jennifer Garrett

I am using vnc with linux as the server and a windows
client. I can get the xterms to work fine, but I want
to run other applications in vnc, such as netscape.
When I try to run netscape in vnc, I get this error:

% netscape
Error: Can't open display: jgarrett:0.0
%

Do I not have something set up correctly? Thanks for
any help!

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Re: running linux apps (other than xterm) on windows client

2001-04-02 Thread Jacob Kuntz

from the secret journal of Jennifer Garrett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> % netscape
> Error: Can't open display: jgarrett:0.0
> %

read the manpange for xhost, or take the easy route and run xhost + in an
xterm. 

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