F17: some cd/DVD operations lock the desktop

[Joachim Backes]

Hi all,

having running F17-x86_64 fully updated. I run gnome-shell and 
additionally nautilus.


Sometimes, if loading a CD or DVD, the desktop is locked until nautilus 
has checked the media (no mouse movements, a.s.o).


Anybody sees this too? How to get rid of this effects?

I had this effect already in earlier Fedora versions, but I don't 
remember how I could solve this issue.


Kind regards

Joachim Backes

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F17: Printing not working with Firefox, working all else

[Nick Urbanik]

Dear Folks,

Mysteriously, my Firefox has stopped printing to the printer.  All
other applications print as expected.  I can print to a PDF file and
print from evince, but not directly  to the [USB HP LJ P2035] printer.

No output indicating queuing appears from lpq.  Cups logs indicate no
activity.  Not sure how to debug this.

All updates are applied.

This is firefox-13.0.1-1.fc17.x86_64.
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Re: F17: Printing not working with Firefox, working all else

[Ed Greshko]

On 06/27/2012 03:19 PM, Nick Urbanik wrote:
> Mysteriously, my Firefox has stopped printing to the printer.  All
> other applications print as expected.  I can print to a PDF file and
> print from evince, but not directly  to the [USB HP LJ P2035] printer.
>
> No output indicating queuing appears from lpq.  Cups logs indicate no
> activity.  Not sure how to debug this.
>
> All updates are applied. 

So, you either select "Print" from the file dialog or "Ctrl+p".  Then a dialog 
box
pops up with the default printer (your HP) and you click on "Print" in the lower
right.  And then nothing happens, right?

You've connected to the cups interface on via the browser and there are no 
"Jobs"
stuck in any queue.

Do you have a second user on the system or can you create a new user to test?


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Re: How to limit maximum number of TCP connections

[Roberto Ragusa]

On 06/27/2012 08:57 AM, Jatin K wrote:
> Dear All
> 
> I'm on FC 15 which is acting as a router for Cable Internet connection
> for 145 PC on the LAN, which works fine... But there is one question in
> my mind, How do I limit the maximum numbers of concurrent connections to
> router. i.e. if I want to allow only 90 concurrent connection to the
> router at the given time only 90 PCs can pass through the router or
> connect to the Internet other PCs/users have to wait until the connected
> PCs session is over.
> 
> is there any solution/tweak available ???

Your requirement is not clearly described.
The PCs do not do "connections" to the router, they do connections
to the outside world, the router is just moving packets for them.
"Number of concurrent connections" and "number of concurrent sessions"
is also difficult to define.

Are you really talking about a router or are you using a wrong word
for your proxy, VPN, ...?

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Re: How to limit maximum number of TCP connections

[Jatin K]

On 06/27/2012 02:14 PM, Roberto Ragusa wrote:

On 06/27/2012 08:57 AM, Jatin K wrote:
Your requirement is not clearly described.
The PCs do not do "connections" to the router, they do connections
to the outside world, the router is just moving packets for them.
"Number of concurrent connections" and "number of concurrent sessions"
is also difficult to define.

Are you really talking about a router or are you using a wrong word
for your proxy, VPN, ...?


I'm talking about a Linux machine as a router

in simple meaning  I want to allow only ( any ) 90 PCs out of 145 
PCs to go the outside word/Internet through router. If 91st request 
comes to the router it must be blocked/rejected






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Restoring grub after Windows install

[Christopher Svanefalk]

Dear all,

I will have to install Windows on my desktop, which is currently running
Fedora 17. The problem with this is that Windows overwrites the MBR (there
is no way of opting out of this afaik), and hence my grub as well. How can
I reinstall grub after I install windows, so that I again can get a boot
screen where I can select either operating system? Thanks in advance!

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Re: Restoring grub after Windows install

[Joachim Backes]

On 06/27/2012 12:00 PM, Christopher Svanefalk wrote:

Dear all,

I will have to install Windows on my desktop, which is currently running
Fedora 17. The problem with this is that Windows overwrites the MBR
(there is no way of opting out of this afaik), and hence my grub as
well. How can I reinstall grub after I install windows, so that I again
can get a boot screen where I can select either operating system? Thanks
in advance!


Hi Christopher,

use the rescue entry of the Fedora install CD/DVD for re-installing the 
F 17 bootloader.


Kind regards

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Re: How to limit maximum number of TCP connections

[Raymond Pittigher]

You can make it a proxy using squid or add another ethernet adapter and 
separate the networks into allow and deny

On 06/27/2012 05:34 AM, Jatin K wrote:

On 06/27/2012 02:14 PM, Roberto Ragusa wrote:

On 06/27/2012 08:57 AM, Jatin K wrote:
Your requirement is not clearly described.
The PCs do not do "connections" to the router, they do connections
to the outside world, the router is just moving packets for them.
"Number of concurrent connections" and "number of concurrent sessions"
is also difficult to define.

Are you really talking about a router or are you using a wrong word
for your proxy, VPN, ...?


I'm talking about a Linux machine as a router

in simple meaning  I want to allow only ( any ) 90 PCs out of 145
PCs to go the outside word/Internet through router. If 91st request
comes to the router it must be blocked/rejected







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Re: Not receiving my own posts

[Tim]

Hi n2xssvv.g02gfr12930,

How do you pronounce that?  ;-)

> I changed m account settings to receive them, and it is not working

There are, at least, two places that may cause that issue, and you
haven't said where you changed your "account" settings.

List servers can be set to not send your own posts to you.  You'd log
into it, and change settings, there.  (I'm not sure if /this/ list
server has that option.)

Your own mail service may have an option to not show mail from your own
address.  (I've no idea of ntlworld.com has that option, but many mail
services do.)

There's a chance that your own mail client software could do the same,
or that it could be mis-flagging your own mail as spam, and filtering it
away to somewhere that you haven't looked.

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Re: Restoring grub after Windows install

[Christopher Svanefalk]

Hi Joachim, and thanks for the reply. Is this a scripted process, or
something that will have to be done manually? Asking since I am not 100%
savvy when it comes to more complicated CLI work.

On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 12:36 PM, Joachim Backes <
joachim.bac...@rhrk.uni-kl.de> wrote:

> On 06/27/2012 12:00 PM, Christopher Svanefalk wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I will have to install Windows on my desktop, which is currently running
>> Fedora 17. The problem with this is that Windows overwrites the MBR
>> (there is no way of opting out of this afaik), and hence my grub as
>> well. How can I reinstall grub after I install windows, so that I again
>> can get a boot screen where I can select either operating system? Thanks
>> in advance!
>>
>
> Hi Christopher,
>
> use the rescue entry of the Fedora install CD/DVD for re-installing the F
> 17 bootloader.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Joachim Backes
>
>>
>> --
>> Best,
>>
>> Christopher Svanefalk
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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>
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>
>
>
>


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Re: Restoring grub after Windows install

[Christopher Svanefalk]

Nevermind, found good instructions here:

http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/13/html/Installation_Guide/s1-rescuemode-boot.html


Thanks anyway!

On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Christopher Svanefalk <
christopher.svanef...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Joachim, and thanks for the reply. Is this a scripted process, or
> something that will have to be done manually? Asking since I am not 100%
> savvy when it comes to more complicated CLI work.
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 12:36 PM, Joachim Backes <
> joachim.bac...@rhrk.uni-kl.de> wrote:
>
>> On 06/27/2012 12:00 PM, Christopher Svanefalk wrote:
>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> I will have to install Windows on my desktop, which is currently running
>>> Fedora 17. The problem with this is that Windows overwrites the MBR
>>> (there is no way of opting out of this afaik), and hence my grub as
>>> well. How can I reinstall grub after I install windows, so that I again
>>> can get a boot screen where I can select either operating system? Thanks
>>> in advance!
>>>
>>
>> Hi Christopher,
>>
>> use the rescue entry of the Fedora install CD/DVD for re-installing the F
>> 17 bootloader.
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Joachim Backes
>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Christopher Svanefalk
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
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>>
>> https://www-user.rhrk.uni-kl.**de/~backes
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
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>
> Christopher Svanefalk
>
>


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Re: Not receiving my own posts

[Tom Horsley]

On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 20:25:44 +0930
Tim wrote:

> Your own mail service may have an option to not show mail from your own
> address.

Yea, gmail for one has that as the only possible behavior.

I had to setup two gmail address subscriptions to most of
my mailing lists - one I use to send, but don't read, and
I I use to read, but don't send. Very annoying, but the
only way to get properly threaded conversations with my
messages in them (and also the only way to tell if my
messages are actually making it to the list).
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Re: Not receiving my own posts

[n2xssvv.g02gfr12930]

On 06/27/2012 01:01 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 20:25:44 +0930
> Tim wrote:
>
>> Your own mail service may have an option to not show mail from your own
>> address.
> Yea, gmail for one has that as the only possible behavior.
>
> I had to setup two gmail address subscriptions to most of
> my mailing lists - one I use to send, but don't read, and
> I I use to read, but don't send. Very annoying, but the
> only way to get properly threaded conversations with my
> messages in them (and also the only way to tell if my
> messages are actually making it to the list).
I forgot to mention that this has been working, and to the best of my
knowledge I haven't changed anything to cause this behaviour except the
community settings.

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Re: Installing Fedora on a USB connected Harddrive.

[Heinz Diehl]

On 26.06.2012, Jim wrote: 

> this booting off CDrom is a Major problem for this Dell 2400, it's all over
> the internet, but no has came up with a fix on the problem.

You could try using an USB-stick. Download the F17 DVD .iso, do an
"isohybrid xxx.iso" on it, and copy it to your stick:

cat xxx.iso > /dev/sdb (or whatever device the stick is)

Now your stick is ready to boot right off, choose USB-HDD in the
setup as your boot-drive.

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Re: Not receiving my own posts

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Wed, 2012-06-27 at 08:01 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 20:25:44 +0930
> Tim wrote:
> 
> > Your own mail service may have an option to not show mail from your own
> > address.
> 
> Yea, gmail for one has that as the only possible behavior.
> 
> I had to setup two gmail address subscriptions to most of
> my mailing lists - one I use to send, but don't read, and
> I I use to read, but don't send. Very annoying, but the
> only way to get properly threaded conversations with my
> messages in them (and also the only way to tell if my
> messages are actually making it to the list).

Or you could set up a server-side filter on Gmail to match
list:users@lists.fedoraproject.org and apply a label. That's what I do
(also using Evolution as MUA to see the label as a folder, but that's
secondary).

poc

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Re: How to limit maximum number of TCP connections

[Reindl Harald]

Am 27.06.2012 11:34, schrieb Jatin K:
> On 06/27/2012 02:14 PM, Roberto Ragusa wrote:
>> On 06/27/2012 08:57 AM, Jatin K wrote:
>> Your requirement is not clearly described.
>> The PCs do not do "connections" to the router, they do connections
>> to the outside world, the router is just moving packets for them.
>> "Number of concurrent connections" and "number of concurrent sessions"
>> is also difficult to define.
>>
>> Are you really talking about a router or are you using a wrong word
>> for your proxy, VPN, ...?
>>
> I'm talking about a Linux machine as a router
> 
> in simple meaning  I want to allow only ( any ) 90 PCs out of 145 PCs to 
> go the outside word/Internet through
> router. If 91st request comes to the router it must be blocked/rejected

ouch - you are missing network basics at all
there is nothing such a "tcp connection" representing the number of workstations
even any workstation can and will have much moire than one connection

what you are proposing here is not and will never be possible
due the way networks, TCP and what you not minded UDP are
supposed to work




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Re: How to limit maximum number of TCP connections

[Bruno Wolff III]

On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 15:39:47 +0200,
  Reindl Harald  wrote:


ouch - you are missing network basics at all


I think it is also an issue of what he is really trying to do. Other than 
an experiment it really doesn't make sense to only allow connections from 
only 90 of 145 PCs to outside of the local LAN. A statement of what problem 
he is really trying to solve might result in some guidance.

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Re: F 17 (64). After update, no network!

[Natalie Gross]

On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 8:41 PM, Natalie Gross  wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 3:51 PM, Greg Woods  wrote:
>> On Wed, 2012-06-20 at 13:09 -0400, Natalie Gross wrote:
>>>  Now it works if I bring it up manually via systemctl restart
>>> network.service.
>>> But it (network) does not start automatically at boot. And I don't
>>> have that network icon/applet on the bar to start it with a mouse
>>> click.
>>
>> There are two different services involved. There is NetworkManager
>> (which is where the panel icon comes from) and network. You should only
>> run one of them. If you want to run the network service, which is more
>> command-line and config-file oriented, then just do:
>>
>> # systemctl disable NetworkManager.service
>> # systemctl enable network.service
>>
>> The latter command is the one that will get the network service started
>> at boot time.
>>
>> Fedora out of the box wants you to run NetworkManager, in which case you
>> would use the NetworkManager GUI to configure your devices and don't
>> enable or start the "network" service. The simpler (and some say more
>> reliable) network service may be fine if you have only one device and no
>> WiFi and don't need to change your device configuration very often.
>>
>> --Greg
>>
> I would rather use NetworkManager. (I also have a wifi card, currently
> not used.)
> But attempting to enable or restart NetworkManager.service results in
> an error "No such file or directory."

The latest update (including kernel) has solved the problem!
network.service now starts automatically.
-nat
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Re: Pulseaudio strikes again!

[David A. De Graaf]

On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 08:24:05PM -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
> 
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> On 06/26/2012 02:22 PM, David A. De Graaf wrote:
> > Does anyone know how to allow root and users other than me to use the
> > sound system?
> >
> > Ever since pulseaudio was introduced in Fedora 8 and Mr. Lennart
> > Poettering inflicted his peculiar ideas of security on us, the default
> > installation hasn't worked properly, despite many BZ's and copious
> > complaints! Specifically, pulseaudio invents the "seat" and only the
> > one person in the "seat" can use the sound system. This precludes
> > having root, or anyone else, from generating sounds - presumably it's a
> > security risk. Bosh!
> Well, that depends on if you have a microphone attached to your
> system, and consider allowing a remote user to listen to what is
> going on by your computer a security risk.

There's the microphone, the camera and the loudspeaker.  Surely
software can distinguish between them.  In my case, at home, I'm
really not worried about secret spying.  And if it did occur, I'd
handle the problem with social intervention, not software blockage.
What annoys me is the inability for anyone on the system to produce
sounds without arbitrary restrictions.

> >
> > A simple workaround was found - remove the alsa-plugins-pulseaudio
> > package, and edit /etc/group, adding everyone on the system to the
> > audio group (what a nutty idea). That removed the restrictions and
> > restored sanity. Root could even generate a login tune via the
> > /etc/rc.d/rc.local script, before anyone had logged on.
> >
> > With F17, this escape hatch has been removed.
> > With the alsa-plugins-pulseaudio package absent, a simple command to
> > play a sound yields a core dump:
> >
> > $ play /usr/share/sounds/KDE-Sys-Log-In.ogg
> > dsp_protocol_open_node(): Could not open pcm device file
> /dev/dsptask/pcm2
> > Segmentation fault (core dumped)
> >
> > The pcm device file is, indeed, absent from the file system.
> > In fact, no sounds whatever can be generated by any of the standard
> > methods I use. (Except that Windows running inside VirtualBox seems
> > able to manage it.)
> It sounds like the snd_pcm module did not get loaded.

Now that sounds like a clue.  Can you be more specific?
I can find no package with "snd_pcm" in its name.

Also, did I mention that sound, and the
  yum erase alsa-plugins-pulseaudio
workaround, works perfectly on an i386 netbook.  On that netbook
the file   /dev/dsptask/pcm2   is also missing; yet the 'play' program
works anyway.
It suggests a bug in the x86_64 version of 'play', except that all the
other sound-producing programs also don't work.  Therefore, I deduce
it's the fault of pulseaudio...

> >
> > To get any sound at all, I've had to reinstall the
> > alsa-plugins-pulseaudio package, but this allows only me to generate
> > sound and destroys my crontab-simulated grandfather clock, among other
> > things.
> >
> > On an i386 netbook, F17 sound works fine, as it always has, with the
> > alsa-plugins-pulseaudio package removed. The play program doesn't
> > complain about the absence of /dev/dsptask/pcm2, but just plays the
> > sound.
> >
> > What new magic incantation is now required that I may be permitted
> > to use my x86_64 sound system fully?
> >
> You may want to look into running PA as a system daemon instead of a
> user daemon.

I have done so, and it didn't work.  Specifically, I put these
commands into /etc/rc.d/rc.local:
  # Start the pulseaudio daemon
  /usr/bin/pkill -9 pulseaudio
  /usr/bin/pulseaudio --kill
  sleep 1
  echo "/usr/bin/pulseaudio -D --system --log-target=syslog"
  /usr/bin/pulseaudio -D --system --log-target=syslog
  /usr/bin/play /usr/share/sounds/KDE-Im-Phone-Ring.ogg

Upon rebooting, no sound was produced, but a pulseaudio daemon was
found running with the --system option.  Neither I nor root could produce
any sound.  The 'play' command ran for a time commensurate with its
usual running time, but no sound emanated from the speakers.

Neither  'pulseaudio --kill' nor  'pkill pulseaudio'  were able to
stop the daemon, either as root or as dad.  root running 'kill -9 '
did kill it.  With it gone, I could once again generate sound, but root
could not.

Perhaps I misunderstand the correct way to start a "system daemon" of
pulseaudio.  I did also edit /etc/group, adding root and dad to groups
audio, pulse, pulse-access just for good measure.

Reading 'man pulseaudio' tells me the --system option is not
recommended.  Perhaps the consequences are so dire and
world-threatening that the developer has made it inoperative.
It tells us that a special configuration is needed, but provides no
clue what that may be.

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F16 rocks. Thanks.

[linux guy]

I've been using F16 since before Christmas and I must say that it has
become a very polished and powerful release.

Kudos to those who have worked so hard on it.   We don't thank you
people enough.  Your work is greatly appreciated.
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Re: Pulseaudio strikes again!

[Mikkel L. Ellertson]

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On 06/27/2012 10:57 AM, David A. De Graaf wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 08:24:05PM -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
>> You may want to look into running PA as a system daemon instead of a
>> user daemon.
>
> I have done so, and it didn't work. Specifically, I put these
> commands into /etc/rc.d/rc.local:
> # Start the pulseaudio daemon
> /usr/bin/pkill -9 pulseaudio
> /usr/bin/pulseaudio --kill
> sleep 1
> echo "/usr/bin/pulseaudio -D --system --log-target=syslog"
> /usr/bin/pulseaudio -D --system --log-target=syslog
> /usr/bin/play /usr/share/sounds/KDE-Im-Phone-Ring.ogg
>
> Upon rebooting, no sound was produced, but a pulseaudio daemon was
> found running with the --system option. Neither I nor root could
produce
> any sound. The 'play' command ran for a time commensurate with its
> usual running time, but no sound emanated from the speakers.
>
> Neither 'pulseaudio --kill' nor 'pkill pulseaudio' were able to
> stop the daemon, either as root or as dad. root running 'kill -9 '
> did kill it. With it gone, I could once again generate sound, but root
> could not.
>
> Perhaps I misunderstand the correct way to start a "system daemon" of
> pulseaudio. I did also edit /etc/group, adding root and dad to groups
> audio, pulse, pulse-access just for good measure.
>
> Reading 'man pulseaudio' tells me the --system option is not
> recommended. Perhaps the consequences are so dire and
> world-threatening that the developer has made it inoperative.
> It tells us that a special configuration is needed, but provides no
> clue what that may be.
>

You need to edit the files in /etc/pulse. You at lease need to
modify the daemon.conf file. You will probably want uncomment
daemonize and system-instance and change them to yes.

Mikkel
 
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Re: Not receiving my own posts

[Joe Zeff]

On 06/27/2012 03:55 AM, Tim wrote:

List servers can be set to not send your own posts to you.  You'd log
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server has that option.)


It does.  I know because I see no reason to receive my own posts.
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Re: F16 rocks. Thanks.

[Hiisi]

On 27 June 2012 20:05, linux guy  wrote:
> I've been using F16 since before Christmas and I must say that it has
> become a very polished and powerful release.
>
> Kudos to those who have worked so hard on it.   We don't thank you
> people enough.  Your work is greatly appreciated.
>

F16 is from the previous century. Now is f17 era. Anyway, thank you, developers.
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Re: Restoring grub after Windows install

[James Wilkinson]

Christopher Svanefalk wrote:
> I will have to install Windows on my desktop, which is currently running
> Fedora 17. The problem with this is that Windows overwrites the MBR (there
> is no way of opting out of this afaik), and hence my grub as well. How can
> I reinstall grub after I install windows, so that I again can get a boot
> screen where I can select either operating system? Thanks in advance!

Have you considered installing Windows in a virtual machine, where it
can’t do any damage?

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Re: Gnome-rdp

[Darryl L. Pierce]

On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 07:42:24AM -0600, Lawrence Graves wrote:
> 
> On 06/26/2012 07:39 AM, Darryl L. Pierce wrote:
> >nslookup [hostname]
> Password:
> [root@Jehovah ~]# nslookup [hostname]
> Server:192.168.1.1
> Address:192.168.1.1#53
> 
> ** server can't find [hostname]: NXDOMAIN
> 
> This is what came back.

Dude, replace "[hostname]" with the hostname for the machine you're
trying to access.

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Re: Gnome-rdp

[Lawrence Graves]

On 06/27/2012 02:20 PM, Darryl L. Pierce wrote:

On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 07:42:24AM -0600, Lawrence Graves wrote:

On 06/26/2012 07:39 AM, Darryl L. Pierce wrote:

nslookup [hostname]

Password:
[root@Jehovah ~]# nslookup [hostname]
Server:192.168.1.1
Address:192.168.1.1#53

** server can't find [hostname]: NXDOMAIN

This is what came back.

Dude, replace "[hostname]" with the hostname for the machine you're
trying to access.
Thanks for the help. I don't care what I put in the brackets it still 
comes back to what you see in this post.





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Re: Gnome-rdp

[Joe Zeff]

On 06/27/2012 01:44 PM, Lawrence Graves wrote:

Thanks for the help. I don't care what I put in the brackets it still
comes back to what you see in this post.


Well, then, stop putting it in brackets.

[joe@khorlia Desktop]$ nslookup khorlia.zeff.us
Server: 207.217.77.82
Address:207.217.77.82#53

Non-authoritative answer:
Name:   khorlia.zeff.us
Address: 71.109.144.196

[joe@khorlia Desktop]$
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Re: Restoring grub after Windows install

[Frank Murphy]

On 27/06/12 21:12, James Wilkinson wrote:


Have you considered installing Windows in a virtual machine, where it
can’t do any damage?

James.



Widows even in a cd sleeve can still do damage.
Paper cut, hurts like a bizatch.

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Re: Gnome-rdp

[Lawrence Graves]

On 06/27/2012 03:01 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 06/27/2012 01:44 PM, Lawrence Graves wrote:

Thanks for the help. I don't care what I put in the brackets it still
comes back to what you see in this post.


Well, then, stop putting it in brackets.

[joe@khorlia Desktop]$ nslookup khorlia.zeff.us
Server:207.217.77.82
Address:207.217.77.82#53

Non-authoritative answer:
Name:khorlia.zeff.us
Address: 71.109.144.196

[joe@khorlia Desktop]$
I did it your way and still got the same results. It still tells me it 
can't find it.

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Re: Restoring grub after Windows install

[Christopher Svanefalk]

The license does not permit usage in a virtual machine, unfortunately.


On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 11:03 PM, Frank Murphy  wrote:

> On 27/06/12 21:12, James Wilkinson wrote:
>
>>
>> Have you considered installing Windows in a virtual machine, where it
>> can’t do any damage?
>>
>> James.
>>
>>
> Widows even in a cd sleeve can still do damage.
> Paper cut, hurts like a bizatch.
>
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Re: Gnome-rdp

[Joe Zeff]

On 06/27/2012 02:07 PM, Lawrence Graves wrote:


On 06/27/2012 03:01 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 06/27/2012 01:44 PM, Lawrence Graves wrote:

Thanks for the help. I don't care what I put in the brackets it still
comes back to what you see in this post.


Well, then, stop putting it in brackets.

[joe@khorlia Desktop]$ nslookup khorlia.zeff.us
Server:207.217.77.82
Address:207.217.77.82#53

Non-authoritative answer:
Name:khorlia.zeff.us
Address: 71.109.144.196

[joe@khorlia Desktop]$

I did it your way and still got the same results. It still tells me it
can't find it.


What hostname are you trying to find?  Maybe there's something wrong 
with the name, or the way you're specifying it.  Is it fully qualified, 
as mine is?

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Re: Gnome-rdp

[Lawrence Graves]

On 06/27/2012 03:26 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 06/27/2012 02:07 PM, Lawrence Graves wrote:


On 06/27/2012 03:01 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 06/27/2012 01:44 PM, Lawrence Graves wrote:

Thanks for the help. I don't care what I put in the brackets it still
comes back to what you see in this post.


Well, then, stop putting it in brackets.

[joe@khorlia Desktop]$ nslookup khorlia.zeff.us
Server:207.217.77.82
Address:207.217.77.82#53

Non-authoritative answer:
Name:khorlia.zeff.us
Address: 71.109.144.196

[joe@khorlia Desktop]$

I did it your way and still got the same results. It still tells me it
can't find it.


What hostname are you trying to find?  Maybe there's something wrong 
with the name, or the way you're specifying it.  Is it fully 
qualified, as mine is?
server can't find risingstar: NXDOMAIN This the results of nslookup. Yes 
it is fully qualified. This problem only came when I went from Fedora 16 
to 17.

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Re: Gnome-rdp

[Lawrence Graves]

On 06/27/2012 03:26 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 06/27/2012 02:07 PM, Lawrence Graves wrote:


On 06/27/2012 03:01 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 06/27/2012 01:44 PM, Lawrence Graves wrote:

Thanks for the help. I don't care what I put in the brackets it still
comes back to what you see in this post.


Well, then, stop putting it in brackets.

[joe@khorlia Desktop]$ nslookup khorlia.zeff.us
Server:207.217.77.82
Address:207.217.77.82#53

Non-authoritative answer:
Name:khorlia.zeff.us
Address: 71.109.144.196

[joe@khorlia Desktop]$

I did it your way and still got the same results. It still tells me it
can't find it.


What hostname are you trying to find?  Maybe there's something wrong 
with the name, or the way you're specifying it.  Is it fully 
qualified, as mine is?

192.168.1.84 israel.risingstar.local

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Re: Gnome-rdp

[Joe Zeff]

On 06/27/2012 02:31 PM, Lawrence Graves wrote:

server can't find risingstar: NXDOMAIN This the results of nslookup. Yes
it is fully qualified. This problem only came when I went from Fedora 16
to 17.


Are you using just risingstar, or are you using risingstar.x.y?  The 
first, of course, won't work; the second should.  In any event, I was 
hoping you'd give me the complete hostname so that I could check it from 
here.

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Re: Gnome-rdp

[Lawrence Graves]

On 06/27/2012 03:39 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 06/27/2012 02:31 PM, Lawrence Graves wrote:

server can't find risingstar: NXDOMAIN This the results of nslookup. Yes
it is fully qualified. This problem only came when I went from Fedora 16
to 17.


Are you using just risingstar, or are you using risingstar.x.y? The 
first, of course, won't work; the second should.  In any event, I was 
hoping you'd give me the complete hostname so that I could check it 
from here.

israel.risingstar.local or 192.168.1.84 Hope this helps.
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Re: Gnome-rdp

[Joe Zeff]

On 06/27/2012 02:34 PM, Lawrence Graves wrote:

192.168.1.84 israel.risingstar.local


That's on a non-routable subnet.  Considering that nslookup is a program 
to query Internet domain name servers, there's no way in the world that 
they'd know its address.  (And a good thing, too!  Do you have any idea 
how many hundreds of thousands of machines around the world have that 
exact same address?)  And, I have no idea how it could ever have worked 
correctly, unless (maybe) you used to have it in /etc/hosts and it was 
getting it from there.

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Re: Gnome-rdp

[Steve Searle]

Around 10:45pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012 (UK time), Joe Zeff scrawled:

> On 06/27/2012 02:34 PM, Lawrence Graves wrote:
> >192.168.1.84 israel.risingstar.local
> 
> That's on a non-routable subnet.  Considering that nslookup is a program 
> to query Internet domain name servers, there's no way in the world that 
> they'd know its address.  (And a good thing, too!  Do you have any idea 

I didn't see the start of this thread but couldn't he be running his own
DNS? I do, and nsloolup will find my own machines.

(steve@jackdaw:~)$ nslookup capercaillie
Server: 192.168.126.9
Address:192.168.126.9#53

Name:   capercaillie.stevesearle.com
Address: 192.168.126.182

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Re: Gnome-rdp

[Joe Zeff]

On 06/27/2012 02:54 PM, Steve Searle wrote:

I didn't see the start of this thread but couldn't he be running his own
DNS? I do, and nsloolup will find my own machines.


That, of course, would be different.  However, if he were doing that, 
he'd probably know enough not to put the arguments for nslookup into 
brackets, so I doubt he's got his own DNS server working.

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Fedora crashed at Grub Rescue

[Jim]

grub rescue> in fedora 17 .

What CD do I use to get into  chroot /mnt/sysimage ,F17 Live CD ??
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Re: Restoring grub after Windows install

[Dave Ihnat]

On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 11:16:28PM +0200, Christopher Svanefalk wrote:
> The license does not permit usage in a virtual machine, unfortunately.

What license?  AFAIK, none of the Windows licenses forbid running in a VM.
Most versions of Windows don't make any provision for it.

There was a thing where Vista forbade accessing DRM inside VMs; dunno how
that finally played out, but who in their right mind would load Vista
anywhere, anyway?

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Re: Restoring grub after Windows install

[Reindl Harald]

Am 28.06.2012 01:30, schrieb Dave Ihnat:
> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 11:16:28PM +0200, Christopher Svanefalk wrote:
>> The license does not permit usage in a virtual machine, unfortunately.
> 
> What license?  AFAIK, none of the Windows licenses forbid running in a VM.
> Most versions of Windows don't make any provision for it.

this is simply wrong
http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/about-licensing/virtualization.aspx

Licensing the Windows Desktop Operating System

For Windows operating system software licensed through retail (FPP) or 
preinstalled on a PC (OEM), Windows use
rights are outlined in the Software License Terms that accompany the software. 
These license terms provide use
rights to run Windows locally on the licensed device in a virtual operating 
system environment (OSE); however they
do not provide use rights for accessing Windows running remotely in a virtual 
OSE from the licensed device, and are
limited in other ways when compared to virtualization use rights provided with 
Windows Software Assurance, Windows
Intune, and Windows VDA licenses acquired through Microsoft Volume Licensing. 
For example, neither FPP nor OEM
licenses permit remote access to a Windows virtual machine (VM) running in a 
datacenter. For this, a license
obtained through Microsoft Volume Licensing is required.



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Re: Fedora crashed at Grub Rescue

[Jim]

On 06/27/2012 06:44 PM, Jim wrote:

grub rescue> in fedora 17 .

What CD do I use to get into  chroot /mnt/sysimage ,F17 Live CD ??

/
I ran a Gparted on a freshly installed Fedora 17 after two days of 
Computer running it WIPE OUT THE  /   and   /HOME PARTITIONS, THE ONLY 
PARTITIONS  left on HARD DRIVE IS THE EXTENDED AND SWAP.


WHAT COULD HAVE DONE THIS , ALL DATA IS GONE  ???
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Re: Restoring grub after Windows install

[Roger]

Deceptively simple and elegant solution, apply the DWPGA rule.
Delete Windows, problem goes away.
Solved problems on our computers.
R


Am 28.06.2012 01:30, schrieb Dave Ihnat:

On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 11:16:28PM +0200, Christopher Svanefalk wrote:

The license does not permit usage in a virtual machine, unfortunately.

What license?  AFAIK, none of the Windows licenses forbid running in a VM.
Most versions of Windows don't make any provision for it.

this is simply wrong
http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/about-licensing/virtualization.aspx

Licensing the Windows Desktop Operating System

For Windows operating system software licensed through retail (FPP) or 
preinstalled on a PC (OEM), Windows use
rights are outlined in the Software License Terms that accompany the software. 
These license terms provide use
rights to run Windows locally on the licensed device in a virtual operating 
system environment (OSE); however they
do not provide use rights for accessing Windows running remotely in a virtual 
OSE from the licensed device, and are
limited in other ways when compared to virtualization use rights provided with 
Windows Software Assurance, Windows
Intune, and Windows VDA licenses acquired through Microsoft Volume Licensing. 
For example, neither FPP nor OEM
licenses permit remote access to a Windows virtual machine (VM) running in a 
datacenter. For this, a license
obtained through Microsoft Volume Licensing is required.






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Re: Gnome-rdp

[Ed Greshko]

On 06/28/2012 05:34 AM, Lawrence Graves wrote:
> 192.168.1.84 israel.risingstar.local

Ahhh  That is in your /etc/hosts file  And you said you were doing

nslookup risingstar   ??

If that is so, you have 2 problems.

1.  nslookup doesn't reference data in the hosts file.  It only does a DNS 
query.

192.168.0.18nickel nickel.greshko.com

[egreshko@meimei hidenet]$ nslookup nickel
Server: 192.168.0.55
Address:192.168.0.55#53

** server can't find nickel: NXDOMAIN

Is expected

2.  You have israel.risingstar.local in your hosts file.  Therefore the "host" 
name
is israel and the domain part is risingstar.local   Programs such as ping and 
ssh
will consult the hosts file.  Sooo..

[egreshko@meimei ~]$ ping israel.risingstar.local
PING israel.risingstar.local (192.168.0.18) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from israel.risingstar.local (192.168.0.18): icmp_req=1 ttl=64 
time=0.039 ms
64 bytes from israel.risingstar.local (192.168.0.18): icmp_req=2 ttl=64 
time=0.034 ms
64 bytes from israel.risingstar.local (192.168.0.18): icmp_req=3 ttl=64 
time=0.030 ms

So  change the line in you /etc/hosts if you want a hostname of risingstar.

192.168.1.84 risingstar  



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Re: Fedora crashed at Grub Rescue

[Mark C. Allman]

On Wed, 2012-06-27 at 18:44 -0400, Jim wrote:
> grub rescue> in fedora 17 .
> 
> What CD do I use to get into  chroot /mnt/sysimage ,F17 Live CD ??

I used the "Fedora 17 Desktop Edition" install disk for a recovery disk.
I downloaded it from here:
http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora-options

When you boot up you'll get a menu.  The second option is the "repair"
option if I recall correctly and that's what you're looking for.

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Re: Catalyst 12.6 drivers

[Renich Bon Ciric]

On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 12:11 AM, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930
 wrote:
> These are now available on RPMFusion non free testing repository. It
> installed with no problems for me.
>
> This should remove the watermark, (I've not tested it)
>
> #!/bin/sh
> DRIVER=/usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so
> for x in $(objdump -d $DRIVER|awk '/call/&&/EnableLogo/{print
> "\\x"$2"\\x"$3"\\x"$4"\\x"$5"\\x"$6}'); do
> sed -i "s/$x/\x90\x90\x90\x90\x90/g" $DRIVER
> done

It would be nice if you could use text and not html for your messages.

Is the driver available for Fedora 17?
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Re: Fedora crashed at Grub Rescue

[Jim]

On 06/27/2012 08:37 PM, Mark C. Allman wrote:


On Wed, 2012-06-27 at 18:44 -0400, Jim wrote:

grub rescue> in fedora 17 .

What CD do I use to get into  chroot /mnt/sysimage ,F17 Live CD ??

I used the "Fedora 17 Desktop Edition" install disk for a recovery disk.
I downloaded it from here:
http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora-options

When you boot up you'll get a menu.  The second option is the "repair"
option if I recall correctly and that's what you're looking for.



After further test with Gparted and Smartctl I found out I no longer 
have the  /  and /home partitions on the drive.


And smartctl  shows that hard drive has failures and old-age problems.

I just installed Fedora 17 on the hard drive three days ago.


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Re: Gnome-rdp

[Kevin Martin]

On 06/27/2012 07:07 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 06/28/2012 05:34 AM, Lawrence Graves wrote:
>> 192.168.1.84 israel.risingstar.local
> 
> Ahhh  That is in your /etc/hosts file  And you said you were doing
> 
> nslookup risingstar   ??
> 
> If that is so, you have 2 problems.
> 
> 1.  nslookup doesn't reference data in the hosts file.  It only does a DNS 
> query.
> 
> 192.168.0.18nickel nickel.greshko.com
> 
> [egreshko@meimei hidenet]$ nslookup nickel
> Server: 192.168.0.55
> Address:192.168.0.55#53
> 
> ** server can't find nickel: NXDOMAIN
> 
> Is expected
> 
> 2.  You have israel.risingstar.local in your hosts file.  Therefore the 
> "host" name
> is israel and the domain part is risingstar.local   Programs such as ping and 
> ssh
> will consult the hosts file.  Sooo..
> 
> [egreshko@meimei ~]$ ping israel.risingstar.local
> PING israel.risingstar.local (192.168.0.18) 56(84) bytes of data.
> 64 bytes from israel.risingstar.local (192.168.0.18): icmp_req=1 ttl=64 
> time=0.039 ms
> 64 bytes from israel.risingstar.local (192.168.0.18): icmp_req=2 ttl=64 
> time=0.034 ms
> 64 bytes from israel.risingstar.local (192.168.0.18): icmp_req=3 ttl=64 
> time=0.030 ms
> 
> So  change the line in you /etc/hosts if you want a hostname of 
> risingstar.
> 
> 192.168.1.84 risingstar  
> 
> 
> 


nslookup (or some versions of it) used to honor the /etc/nsswitch.conf file so 
if hosts was defined

hosts:  dns file

in /etc/nsswitch.conf, "nslookup risingstar" would return the address (*if* 
/etc/hosts had "192.168.0.18   risingstar" in it). But
Ed is correct, Lawrence, in that your /etc/hosts file is incorrect if you are 
trying to lookup a host named risingstar.  If you
change the /etc/hosts to look like the example entry I provided what does 
"nslookup risingstar" return?

Kevin
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Re: Gnome-rdp

[Ed Greshko]

On 06/28/2012 09:50 AM, Kevin Martin wrote:
> nslookup (or some versions of it) used to honor the /etc/nsswitch.conf file 
> so if hosts was defined
>
> hosts:  dns file
>
> in /etc/nsswitch.conf, "nslookup risingstar" would return the address (*if* 
> /etc/hosts had "192.168.0.18 

I could find no version of nslookup on my systems which do as you suggest.

All of my nsswitch.conf files have "hosts:  files dns"

This includes nslookup on RHELv4.8 as well as ubuntu.

In all my years I can't recall ever coming across that behaviorand it 
doesn't
make much sense to me that a utility/tool meant to query the DNS would do this. 
 dig
also doesn't.

If you can recall what version did this I'd be interested to know.

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Re: How to limit maximum number of TCP connections

[Jatin K]

On 06/27/2012 07:43 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote:

On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 15:39:47 +0200,
  Reindl Harald  wrote:


ouch - you are missing network basics at all


I think it is also an issue of what he is really trying to do. Other 
than an experiment it really doesn't make sense to only allow 
connections from only 90 of 145 PCs to outside of the local LAN. A 
statement of what problem he is really trying to solve might result in 
some guidance.
well. suppose I've 5 clients in my office ( say A,B, C, D, E ) and a 
linux box which is working as a router ( gateway ), I want  to allow 
only 4 concurrent pcs to access the Internet, say if A,B,C,D is using 
internet then fifth client E can not access the internet until any of 
previous connected clients ( A,B,C, or D) gets disconnected/session ended



now can you understand what I want to say ???

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Re: How to limit maximum number of TCP connections

[Ed Greshko]

On 06/28/2012 01:27 PM, Jatin K wrote:
> well. suppose I've 5 clients in my office ( say A,B, C, D, E ) and a 
> linux box
> which is working as a router ( gateway ), I want  to allow only 4 concurrent 
> pcs to
> access the Internet, say if A,B,C,D is using internet then fifth client E can 
> not
> access the internet until any of previous connected clients ( A,B,C, or D) 
> gets
> disconnected/session ended 

Define "access internet".

Do you mean *all* protocols?  So, you want to stop a 5th system from browsing, 
ftp,
ssh, ntp, pop, imap, etc?  So, if A, B, C, and D are using these 
protocols...which
can happen without direct user input (pop/imap polls, facebook and rss feed 
updates,
etc.)  you want to block E for an indeterminate amount of time?

Seriously?

I think you need to state the problem you are trying to solvenot ask for a
solution which really sounds wrong headed.


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Re: How to limit maximum number of TCP connections

[Ed Greshko]

On 06/28/2012 02:02 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 06/28/2012 01:27 PM, Jatin K wrote:
>> well. suppose I've 5 clients in my office ( say A,B, C, D, E ) and a 
>> linux box
>> which is working as a router ( gateway ), I want  to allow only 4 concurrent 
>> pcs to
>> access the Internet, say if A,B,C,D is using internet then fifth client E 
>> can not
>> access the internet until any of previous connected clients ( A,B,C, or D) 
>> gets
>> disconnected/session ended 
> Define "access internet".
>
> Do you mean *all* protocols?  So, you want to stop a 5th system from 
> browsing, ftp,
> ssh, ntp, pop, imap, etc?  So, if A, B, C, and D are using these 
> protocols...which
> can happen without direct user input (pop/imap polls, facebook and rss feed 
> updates,
> etc.)  you want to block E for an indeterminate amount of time?
>
> Seriously?
>
> I think you need to state the problem you are trying to solvenot ask for a
> solution which really sounds wrong headed.
>
>

You do realize that the users being barred access will be getting "timeout" 
notices
and such on their browsers and they a very likely to be quite irritated in 
short order.
 


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Re: How to limit maximum number of TCP connections

[Jatin K]

On 06/28/2012 11:32 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 06/28/2012 01:27 PM, Jatin K wrote:

well. suppose I've 5 clients in my office ( say A,B, C, D, E ) and a linux 
box
which is working as a router ( gateway ), I want  to allow only 4 concurrent 
pcs to
access the Internet, say if A,B,C,D is using internet then fifth client E can 
not
access the internet until any of previous connected clients ( A,B,C, or D) gets
disconnected/session ended

Define "access internet".

Do you mean *all* protocols?  So, you want to stop a 5th system from browsing, 
ftp,
ssh, ntp, pop, imap, etc?  So, if A, B, C, and D are using these 
protocols...which
can happen without direct user input (pop/imap polls, facebook and rss feed 
updates,
etc.)  you want to block E for an indeterminate amount of time?

exactly



Seriously?
yes, its my client's requirement ..  I can understand its not the 
way to go  but he pays me for this ... I'm a service provider .. I 
have to do what they said and want to do



I think you need to state the problem you are trying to solvenot ask for a
solution which really sounds wrong headed.

how can you prove its wrong ... they need this kind of configurations, 
and my duty is to provide the solutions what they need if its possible


I don't know the solution/configuration requirement to fulfill 
their desire, thats why I'm asking the solutions to this list where so 
many experts like you are available. If this is wrong then I'm really sorry



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Re: How to limit maximum number of TCP connections

[Ed Greshko]

On 06/28/2012 02:27 PM, Jatin K wrote:
> yes, its my client's requirement ..  I can understand its not the way to 
> go
>  but he pays me for this ... I'm a service provider .. I have to do what 
> they
> said and want to do
>
>> I think you need to state the problem you are trying to solvenot ask for 
>> a
>> solution which really sounds wrong headed.
>>
> how can you prove its wrong ... they need this kind of configurations, and my 
> duty
> is to provide the solutions what they need if its possible
>
> I don't know the solution/configuration requirement to fulfill their 
> desire,
> thats why I'm asking the solutions to this list where so many experts like 
> you are
> available. If this is wrong then I'm really sorry 

Find the appropriate 3-panel from Dilbert and hand it to the PHB.He is 
asking you
to implement a solution for which he can't conceive of solving a problem 
better, that
hasn't been defined...at least not here.

I've walked away from more than one project where the "solutions" was worse 
than the
problem. 

A "primitive"  implementation would be to force users to connect to the 
"gateway" via
pptp and limit the number of concurrent logins.  You'd end up with the same
problem Either you'd have users logged in and staying logged in 
foreveror
you'd have to force disconnects

If I were a user paying to use your client's service I'd walk away very quickly.

Good luck.

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Re: How to limit maximum number of TCP connections

[Joe Zeff]

On 06/27/2012 11:27 PM, Jatin K wrote:



how can you prove its wrong ... they need this kind of configurations,
and my duty is to provide the solutions what they need if its possible

 I don't know the solution/configuration requirement to fulfill
their desire, thats why I'm asking the solutions to this list where so
many experts like you are available. If this is wrong then I'm really sorry


Personally, I doubt that limiting the number of boxes that can access 
the Internet at any one time is their ultimate goal.  They probably have 
something different in mind and have decided that this is the way to get 
it.  If I were you, I'd ask them what it is they're trying to 
accomplish, because there's probably a better, simpler, easier way to do it.

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