RE: [techtalk] pppd (ifup script)

2000-02-16 Thread CATHERINE LUCAS

Hey Harry,

> Hey Karen,
actually my name is Catherine ;-)

>   Check your logs "/var/log/messages" to see why it bombed. If you can
> post that it might be helpful.

These are the relevant lines. I can make neither head nor tail of them!

Feb 15 22:47:52 ruth ifup-ppp: pppd started for ppp0 on  at 
Feb 15 22:47:52 ruth pppd[11248]: no device specified and stdin is not a tty

Thanks,

Catherine

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Re: [techtalk] pppd (ifup script)

2000-02-16 Thread Jenn V.



CATHERINE LUCAS wrote:

e relevant lines. I can make neither head nor tail of them!
> 
> Feb 15 22:47:52 ruth ifup-ppp: pppd started for ppp0 on  at
> Feb 15 22:47:52 ruth pppd[11248]: no device specified and stdin is not a tty

Second line seems to imply, to me, that your pppd startup 
command/script/whatever has something like:

somecommandhere > pppd

or 

somecommandhere | pppd


or even

pppd > somecommandhere

or

pppd | somecommandhere


Can you show us the command that starts pppd?

stdin is the generic-input-place, and a pipe or redirection into
or from pppd /appears/ to be going to stdin somehow. If we can 
see the pppd command, we might be able to figure out how.


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Re: [techtalk] ICQ client

2000-02-16 Thread David Elliott

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Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 5:35 PM
Subject: Re: [techtalk] ICQ client


> My personal preference is gtkicq.  I love a good gtk theme with custom
> icons.

GnomeICQ is the successor to gtkicq...it's themeable as well, and you can
play with the icons if you so desire. One of these days I will work out how
to do all that...:)

David




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Re: [techtalk] career/family question

2000-02-16 Thread Steve Kudlak



Rik Hemsley wrote:

> #if Linda Walsh
> > Dunno if I want to do this...but...
> >
> > No one is "equal" in every way with everyone else [...]
>
> Misquote from Python:
>
> "You are ALL INDIVIDUALS !"
> (moment's pause)
> "I'm not ! ... and neither's my wife !"
>
> [...]
> > It'd by like rating on congeniality -- have you ever heard of Mr.
> > Congeniality award? Things have moved away from those explicit
> > criteria, but attitudes still remain.
>
> I have worked at a company where I was not made welcome, because
> I didn't play football (soccer) with the 'lads'.
>
> It's practically the same thing. I wasn't a 'man' in their eyes,
> so I got the equivalent of sexual discrimination. Yes, I really did.
>
> Rik
>
> --
> Explore the richness of your limitations.
>
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I would snip but I won't. Same with me. I am the male sports inept I was
made feel unwelcome because I can not play baseball. This was silly it
was like bloody high school. It was pretty awful, both men and women
participated in "Steve Jokes".

As far as family stuff. We were messy. I lived with a family for several
years. Half the machines were at home and I admin'd them. I took care of
kids when needed including teaching cooking and making dinner.
Dishwashing was automated. We had a once a week house keeper, we paid
her $10/hr. Mostly we took dinner together. Each person got chance at
menu planning. I drove people to school and it all seemed to work.

Things ended up in random places but were found. So far this group of
people seems to be the happiest family I know and have known and I
shouldn't have struck out on my own. My looseness was accepted and I am
sure several prosecutors would be screaming about the state of summer
dress we ran around in. It was funny. Most everyone is happy and
prosperous, with me being the mild black sheep.

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Re: [techtalk] career/family question

2000-02-16 Thread Tami Friedman


Wow!  Thats the best bungle story I've heard from that era,and I was a
draft counsellor then!  

.Tami
 .signature: syntax error at line 1: `(' unexpected


> Unfortunately gender does matter. In 1972 I received a draft notice to go to
> Viet Nam (lucky lottery winner...lol). Seems they misspelled my name. Being
> (obviously) female did not matter and I had to have a genetic work up done
> to prove that  I was indeed a  female. My birth certificate was not accepted
> either. So much for living in this mans' world.
> 
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Re: [techtalk] career/family question

2000-02-16 Thread Magni Onsoien

Tania Morell:

> :)  Strange topic for techtalk but...

It really should be an important part of ANY organizer programme, so I
think we should discuss it further in order to make a spec and then get
it implemented ;)

> :(  Not so happy to admit...  sometimes I do sleep in
> my clothes.  And I think I've taken out the ironing
> board 3 times in the last 10 months and that was for
> job interviews. ..(It was a programmers habit too, I
> guess) That and I'm the least vain person I know. *no
> makeup*   *I hate shopping for clothes*  If I didn't
> feel unladylike going grunge all the time, I would.

I really think you should concider paying someone to do some cleaning
for you. Just think about it: do you hate housework so much that it
would be a relief to come home to a clean house with your clothes washed
and ironed - even if it means a bit less money?
Do me there is no doubt: I definitely will have someone to do cleaning
when I start working. I am actually concidering it now, too, when I am a
student working part time. I live with a geek guy who hates housework,
so my plan is to get someone to clean the floors, bathroom, dust etc
every forthnight and maybe also do the laundry for us. Of course we will
then split the expenses between us.

We also used to buy groceries etc via internet and get the shop to bring
it home for us. Costed a bit extra, but as we used to buy from a cheap
store the total amount was less than we would have paid to buy it from
our local store (we don't have a car, so it's hard to bring home juice,
milk, beer etc). 

> I cook to save money and to keep from blowing up like
> a baloon..   I mostly have breakfast in a can, though,
> but lately it's been McDonald's #3 with orange juice.
> h ..  yummy.

I eat bread for breakfast. Then I have bead and cheese and stuff at work
and make my lunch from that. At home we either make a pizza or we cook
something ourself, mainly consisting of 3-4 ingredients plus rice or
pasta. Cheap and usually pretty fast and with little trouble. It's
definitely possible to read mail/news, compile, program or read
newspapers while the food is preparing itself.

So, the technical side: all this should be implemented in some
electronic organizer stuff: reminders of calling the cleaner, automatic
submitting of the orders to the shop at the end of each Friday (so it's
delivered when one gets home from work)(the list should be the
"standard" stuff like milk, bread etc, plus the things you have added to
the list plus necessay ingredients to next weeks cooking (see later)),
proposals for menus for each day of week, which in time should compile
with the day's appointments. So if the organizer knows that you have a
meeting until late on Tuesday, it should propose (and maybe order) a
very simple meal, whil when it see that you have a day off on Sunday
plus that you are expecting your family for dinner then, it should make
sure an appropriate steak with vegetables is ordered. Etc. I mean, this
would be wonderful and really useful! Not only will the organizer make
sure you have time for your meetings etc, but it will also make sure you
have time for cooking (and the other home duties, which you of course
specify in it) afterwards.

Hm. I really NEED this. Now!

(And I think we maybe should move this to grrltalk now. So if someone
wants to discuss this further: send to grrltalk instead :))


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Re: [techtalk] 1st time adding a modem to linux.

2000-02-16 Thread Tania Morell


I've had my internal pci modem for about 2 years now
so if I can't get it to work with linux, I'd have to
buy another one... 

I have an old ISA 28.8 modem, though.  I intalled it
and had it working in 5 minutes but it's slow.  I want
to get adsl as soon as it's available in my area so I
don't want to be stuck with 3 modems that I'm not
going to use.  I hate seeing perfectly good hardware
(and *money*) go to waste.

I guess I'll just keep the 28.8 for now.

-T

--- Nick Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Just wanted to say that I was reminded the hard way
> tonight that
> its not always configuration that stops you from
> being able to setup
> devices on your computer.  I have been struggling
> for a month with
> an external 56.6 modem, and could not get it.  
> Minicom would let
> me dial out with it as a 56.6 modem...but all it
> would display on the
> screen was random characters.  We reset the serial
> speed to 9600
> and 19200, and it works, but anything above that,
> and the modem
> freaks out.  Anything above those speeds, and it
> won't dial using chat,
> either.  *mumble*  I asked the guy who gave me the
> modem about it
> at work today, and his reply was "Oh, yeah, I had it
> working fine in my
> system until I moved.  After that, it seemed to run
> rather oddly."
> 
> Its nice to finally have an answer, but its one of
> those answers that makes
> you want to throw things.  A month of hair pulling
> when everything had been
> set up correctly, for the most part.
> 
> *shrug*  And now, back to your regularly scheduled
> program.
> 
> Nick
> 
> 
> 
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RE: [techtalk] pppd (ifup script)

2000-02-16 Thread moebius

Hey Catherine,
  Sorry about that, I don't know where I got Karen from. It must be the
crack ;-). 
  So what seems to be happing is that no device is being used for the ppp0
device. Normally this is run thru the modem. How are you setting up ppp?
Thru LinuxConf? Anyhow, I would recommend wvdial. If you're using a gui
these is an Xbased version. I can send you a how-to that I wrote for
connecting to Speakeasy.net. It's at home now so it won't be until later.
Please try this in the mean time. Fire up minicom, and dial your ISP. See
what is displayed, ie=>prompt or garbage (pppd). This will at least let
everyone know how to setup a chat script for your situtation. Also if you
do get prompts for login and pass enter them wait for pppd to start on
your ISP side then "suspend with no reset" minicom and fire up pppd
-detach. If that works it'll be relatively easy to accomplish. Also make
sure that you always run pppd with debug. Sorry this is so long.
Regards,
Harry
On Wed, 16 Feb 2000, CATHERINE LUCAS wrote:

> Hey Harry,
> 
> > Hey Karen,
> actually my name is Catherine ;-)
> 
> >   Check your logs "/var/log/messages" to see why it bombed. If you can
> > post that it might be helpful.
> 
> These are the relevant lines. I can make neither head nor tail of them!
> 
> Feb 15 22:47:52 ruth ifup-ppp: pppd started for ppp0 on  at 
> Feb 15 22:47:52 ruth pppd[11248]: no device specified and stdin is not a tty
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Catherine
> 
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Re: [techtalk] career/family question

2000-02-16 Thread moebius

Hey All,
  Just my $.02. I just moved out here to Seattle about 6mo. ago. I don't
have a car so if I want to go grocery shopping I have a few options. A:
bum a ride B: Take mass transit C: don't keep any food in house or D: shop
at homegrocer.com. Guess which one I chose.
  I am not married/have a family. But I would imagine that if I did and
going to work meant being able to provide more for the people I loved and
hiring someone to help with the 'housework' would potentially give me more
time to spend with them I don't think that it would be an issue. I guess
it's guess how you look at it.

On Wed, 16 Feb 2000, Magni Onsoien wrote:

> Tania Morell:
> 
> > :)  Strange topic for techtalk but...
> 
> It really should be an important part of ANY organizer programme, so I
> think we should discuss it further in order to make a spec and then get
> it implemented ;)
> 
> > :(  Not so happy to admit...  sometimes I do sleep in
> > my clothes.  And I think I've taken out the ironing
> > board 3 times in the last 10 months and that was for
> > job interviews. ..(It was a programmers habit too, I
> > guess) That and I'm the least vain person I know. *no
> > makeup*   *I hate shopping for clothes*  If I didn't
> > feel unladylike going grunge all the time, I would.
> 
> I really think you should concider paying someone to do some cleaning
> for you. Just think about it: do you hate housework so much that it
> would be a relief to come home to a clean house with your clothes washed
> and ironed - even if it means a bit less money?
> Do me there is no doubt: I definitely will have someone to do cleaning
> when I start working. I am actually concidering it now, too, when I am a
> student working part time. I live with a geek guy who hates housework,
> so my plan is to get someone to clean the floors, bathroom, dust etc
> every forthnight and maybe also do the laundry for us. Of course we will
> then split the expenses between us.
> 
> We also used to buy groceries etc via internet and get the shop to bring
> it home for us. Costed a bit extra, but as we used to buy from a cheap
> store the total amount was less than we would have paid to buy it from
> our local store (we don't have a car, so it's hard to bring home juice,
> milk, beer etc). 
> 
> > I cook to save money and to keep from blowing up like
> > a baloon..   I mostly have breakfast in a can, though,
> > but lately it's been McDonald's #3 with orange juice.
> > h ..  yummy.
> 
> I eat bread for breakfast. Then I have bead and cheese and stuff at work
> and make my lunch from that. At home we either make a pizza or we cook
> something ourself, mainly consisting of 3-4 ingredients plus rice or
> pasta. Cheap and usually pretty fast and with little trouble. It's
> definitely possible to read mail/news, compile, program or read
> newspapers while the food is preparing itself.
> 
> So, the technical side: all this should be implemented in some
> electronic organizer stuff: reminders of calling the cleaner, automatic
> submitting of the orders to the shop at the end of each Friday (so it's
> delivered when one gets home from work)(the list should be the
> "standard" stuff like milk, bread etc, plus the things you have added to
> the list plus necessay ingredients to next weeks cooking (see later)),
> proposals for menus for each day of week, which in time should compile
> with the day's appointments. So if the organizer knows that you have a
> meeting until late on Tuesday, it should propose (and maybe order) a
> very simple meal, whil when it see that you have a day off on Sunday
> plus that you are expecting your family for dinner then, it should make
> sure an appropriate steak with vegetables is ordered. Etc. I mean, this
> would be wonderful and really useful! Not only will the organizer make
> sure you have time for your meetings etc, but it will also make sure you
> have time for cooking (and the other home duties, which you of course
> specify in it) afterwards.
> 
> Hm. I really NEED this. Now!
> 
> (And I think we maybe should move this to grrltalk now. So if someone
> wants to discuss this further: send to grrltalk instead :))
> 
> 
> Magni :)
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Re: [techtalk] career/family question

2000-02-16 Thread Cynthia Dale

Hey y'all  (:
Here's my plan:
I'm moving my mom in with me, and paying her a salary.  She already cleans
and cooks when she comes to my house, and right now, she is working as a
waitress, which is too hard for her at her age, and too stressful.  I
realize that not everyone gets along with their moms as well as I do, but
it would be wonderful to see a trend where we hire people who normally
experience age discrimination to do some of these jobs for us.  And it's a
huge problem in this country that we don't take care of our elderly, so
when the time comes that she needs my help, she'll be here already.  I
plan to build a "mother-in-law" house behind mine so that she'll have her
own space.  (:
Cindy

On Wed, 16 Feb 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hey All,
>   Just my $.02. I just moved out here to Seattle about 6mo. ago. I don't
> have a car so if I want to go grocery shopping I have a few options. A:
> bum a ride B: Take mass transit C: don't keep any food in house or D: shop
> at homegrocer.com. Guess which one I chose.
>   I am not married/have a family. But I would imagine that if I did and
> going to work meant being able to provide more for the people I loved and
> hiring someone to help with the 'housework' would potentially give me more
> time to spend with them I don't think that it would be an issue. I guess
> it's guess how you look at it.
> 
> On Wed, 16 Feb 2000, Magni Onsoien wrote:
> 
> > Tania Morell:
> > 
> > > :)  Strange topic for techtalk but...
> > 
> > It really should be an important part of ANY organizer programme, so I
> > think we should discuss it further in order to make a spec and then get
> > it implemented ;)
> > 
> > > :(  Not so happy to admit...  sometimes I do sleep in
> > > my clothes.  And I think I've taken out the ironing
> > > board 3 times in the last 10 months and that was for
> > > job interviews. ..(It was a programmers habit too, I
> > > guess) That and I'm the least vain person I know. *no
> > > makeup*   *I hate shopping for clothes*  If I didn't
> > > feel unladylike going grunge all the time, I would.
> > 
> > I really think you should concider paying someone to do some cleaning
> > for you. Just think about it: do you hate housework so much that it
> > would be a relief to come home to a clean house with your clothes washed
> > and ironed - even if it means a bit less money?
> > Do me there is no doubt: I definitely will have someone to do cleaning
> > when I start working. I am actually concidering it now, too, when I am a
> > student working part time. I live with a geek guy who hates housework,
> > so my plan is to get someone to clean the floors, bathroom, dust etc
> > every forthnight and maybe also do the laundry for us. Of course we will
> > then split the expenses between us.
> > 
> > We also used to buy groceries etc via internet and get the shop to bring
> > it home for us. Costed a bit extra, but as we used to buy from a cheap
> > store the total amount was less than we would have paid to buy it from
> > our local store (we don't have a car, so it's hard to bring home juice,
> > milk, beer etc). 
> > 
> > > I cook to save money and to keep from blowing up like
> > > a baloon..   I mostly have breakfast in a can, though,
> > > but lately it's been McDonald's #3 with orange juice.
> > > h ..  yummy.
> > 
> > I eat bread for breakfast. Then I have bead and cheese and stuff at work
> > and make my lunch from that. At home we either make a pizza or we cook
> > something ourself, mainly consisting of 3-4 ingredients plus rice or
> > pasta. Cheap and usually pretty fast and with little trouble. It's
> > definitely possible to read mail/news, compile, program or read
> > newspapers while the food is preparing itself.
> > 
> > So, the technical side: all this should be implemented in some
> > electronic organizer stuff: reminders of calling the cleaner, automatic
> > submitting of the orders to the shop at the end of each Friday (so it's
> > delivered when one gets home from work)(the list should be the
> > "standard" stuff like milk, bread etc, plus the things you have added to
> > the list plus necessay ingredients to next weeks cooking (see later)),
> > proposals for menus for each day of week, which in time should compile
> > with the day's appointments. So if the organizer knows that you have a
> > meeting until late on Tuesday, it should propose (and maybe order) a
> > very simple meal, whil when it see that you have a day off on Sunday
> > plus that you are expecting your family for dinner then, it should make
> > sure an appropriate steak with vegetables is ordered. Etc. I mean, this
> > would be wonderful and really useful! Not only will the organizer make
> > sure you have time for your meetings etc, but it will also make sure you
> > have time for cooking (and the other home duties, which you of course
> > specify in it) afterwards.
> > 
> > Hm. I really NEED this. Now!
> > 
> > (And I think we maybe should move this to grrltalk now. So 

[techtalk] Fwd: Blondes???

2000-02-16 Thread J B


1. Question: If you could live forever, would you and why?
Answer:  "I would not live forever, because we should not live forever, 
because if we were supposed to live forever, then we would live forever, but 
we cannot live forever, which is why I would not live forever."---Miss 
Alabama in the 1994 Miss USA contest

2. "Whenever I watch TV and see those poor starving kids all over the world, 
I can't help but cry. I mean I'd love to be  skinny like that but not with 
all those flies and death and stuff." ---Mariah Carey

3. "Researchers have discovered that chocolate produces some of the same 
reactions in the brain as marijuana. The researchers also discovered other 
similarities between the two,  but can't remember what they are."---Matt 
Lauer on NBC's Today Show, August 22

4. "I haven't committed a crime. What I did was fail to comply with the 
law."---David Dinkins, New York City Mayor, (answering accusations that he 
failed to pay his taxes)

5. "Smoking kills. If you're killed, you've lost a very important part of 
your life."---Brooke Shields, during an interview to become spokesperson for 
a federal anti-smoking campaign.

6.  "I've never had major knee surgery on any other part of my body."
  --Winston Bennett, Univ. of KY basketball forward

7.  "Outside of the killings, Washington has one of the lowest crime rates 
in the country."---Mayor Marion Barry, Washington, DC

8.  "We're going to turn this team around 360 drgrees."---Jason Kidd, upon 
his drafting to the Dallas Mavericks

9.  "I'm not going to have some reporters pawing through our papers. We are 
the president."---Hillary Clinton (commenting on the release of subpoenaed 
documents)

10. "China is a big country, inhabited by many Chinese."---Former French 
President Charles De Gaulle

11. "That lowdown scoundrel deserves to be kicked to death by a jackass, and 
I'm just the one to do it."---A Congressional Candidate in Texas

12. "It isn't pollution that's harming the environment, it's the impurities 
in our air and water that are doing it."---Former U.S. Vice-president Dan 
Quayle- an esteemed DePaul alumni

13. "Without censorship, things can get terribly confused in the public 
mind."---General William Westmoreland

14. And last but not least, a parting word from Dan Quayle:
"I love California.  I practically grew up in Phoenix."





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Re: [techtalk] Fwd: Blondes???

2000-02-16 Thread Tania Morell

Why you derty, low-down stereotyper you!
How dare you imply that blondes are stoopid!
My afrikan ancestors take a fence.

;(

-T

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Re: [techtalk] Fwd: Blondes???

2000-02-16 Thread Linda Walsh

Re: your Subject choice...
This isn't meant as a criticism -- just using it to point
out an example about the environment we live in.

"Blonde jokes" are based on a stereotype typically 
applied only to women.  When
I talk about why equality is not possible in this environment, this
is an example.  Many of us have told and laughed at dumb blonde jokes,
I have as well -- and I'm blonde!  Of course it's interesting to note
that at least 8(out of 14), that I could see on the list were white
males.  Would everyone be happy with "dumb white male" jokes?  Somehow
I think many here would find that alot more challenging to take humorously
in the same way.

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[techtalk] Re: Blondes???

2000-02-16 Thread J B

Before I get flamed for it, that list of quotes was not intentionally sent 
to the techtalk list.  Oopssorry!
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RE: [techtalk] Fwd: Blondes???

2000-02-16 Thread Roehr, Susan N

Not to mention...this is the techtalk list.

S.

> -Original Message-
> From: Linda Walsh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2000 1:23 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [techtalk] Fwd: Blondes???
> 
> 
> Re: your Subject choice...
>   This isn't meant as a criticism -- just using it to point
> out an example about the environment we live in.
> 
>   "Blonde jokes" are based on a stereotype typically 
> applied only to women.  When
> I talk about why equality is not possible in this environment, this
> is an example.  Many of us have told and laughed at dumb blonde jokes,
> I have as well -- and I'm blonde!  Of course it's interesting to note
> that at least 8(out of 14), that I could see on the list were white
> males.  Would everyone be happy with "dumb white male" jokes?  Somehow
> I think many here would find that alot more challenging to 
> take humorously
> in the same way.
> 
> -l
> 
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[techtalk] Formatting floppy

2000-02-16 Thread kev

Hi,

I have a floppy disk which is DOS formatted.
How do I format it as a Linux disk?

Sorry for the dumb question, but I searched in RH manuals and the RedHat
site, but no joy...

thanks,

- Kev



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RE: [techtalk] Fwd: Blondes???

2000-02-16 Thread J B

Actually, THAT was the reason I was apologizing.  Were I to intentionally 
post, it would have been to grrltalk, not techtalk.


>Not to mention...this is the techtalk list.


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Re: [techtalk] Fwd: Blondes??? Isn't this a techlist?

2000-02-16 Thread Janus

At 05:47 PM 02/16/2000 GMT, you wrote:
>
>5. "Smoking kills. If you're killed, you've lost a very important part of 
>your life."---Brooke Shields, during an interview to become spokesperson for 
>a federal anti-smoking campaign.
>
Oh, and Brook Shields is a brunette
>
>7.  "Outside of the killings, Washington has one of the lowest crime rates 
>in the country."---Mayor Marion Barry, Washington, DC
>
So, in case it escaped your notice, was Mayor Barry

Who, pray, is this ignoramus?

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Re: [techtalk] Fwd: Blondes???

2000-02-16 Thread Tania Morell

Well, I laughed my head off... ;)

-T

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> How dare you imply that blondes are stoopid!
> My afrikan ancestors take a fence.
> 
> ;(
> 
> -T
> 
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Re: [techtalk] Formatting floppy

2000-02-16 Thread aaron

Should be able to run:
mke2fs /dev/fd0 (or whichever floppy drive it is)
This needs to be done as root.

Then mount with:
mount -t ext2 /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy  (or alternate mount point)

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On Wed, 16 Feb 2000, kev wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I have a floppy disk which is DOS formatted.
> How do I format it as a Linux disk?
> 
> Sorry for the dumb question, but I searched in RH manuals and the RedHat
> site, but no joy...
> 
> thanks,
> 
> - Kev
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [techtalk] Formatting floppy

2000-02-16 Thread Karl-Heinz Zimmer

On 16.02.00, 20:04:29, Kevin Porter wrote:

> I have a floppy disk which is DOS formatted.
> How do I format it as a Linux disk?

> Sorry for the dumb question, but I searched in
> RH manuals and the RedHat site, but no joy...

Kevin, are you sure you want to do this?

Under normal circumstances there is no problem
using DOS readable disquettes on Linux...

If your /etc/fstab contains a line like this

 /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy  autosync,user,
   noauto,nosuid,
   nodev,unhide   0   0

you will be able to mount them easily.


Hope this helps a bit,

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Re: [techtalk] Formatting floppy

2000-02-16 Thread moebius

Hey Kev,
  Give this a shot. Insert the disk into the drive. Assuming that your
floppy is /dev/fd0 (most are), do this:
%mkfs.ext2 /dev/fd0
viloa, all done. You should see info about the superblocks being written.
Now you can mount it to the dir ( I use /mnt/floppy) of your choice.
So, if I didn't have it before I would do this as root.
%mkdir /mnt/floppy
%chmod 700 /mnt/floppy
%mount -t ext2 /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy
%cd /mnt/floppy
Then when I'm ready to eject the disk I move out of the floppy dir. You
can't unmount a medium if you in it's directory.
% umount /mnt/floppy
HTH,
Harry

On Wed, 16 Feb 2000, kev wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I have a floppy disk which is DOS formatted.
> How do I format it as a Linux disk?
> 
> Sorry for the dumb question, but I searched in RH manuals and the RedHat
> site, but no joy...
> 
> thanks,
> 
> - Kev
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [techtalk] Fwd: Blondes???

2000-02-16 Thread Nils Philippsen

On Wed, 16 Feb 2000, J B wrote:

[jokes snipped]

Now this isn't exactly on-topic on techtalk, is it?

(F'up set to grrltalk.)

Nils
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[techtalk] icq

2000-02-16 Thread Lighthouse Keeper in the Desert Sun

Okay, so I just installed gnomeicu.  (I used the rpm, so I may decide to
go back and get the source later if I can't get it worked out right.)
Okay.  So, I ran it, and it worked... until I wanted to add a contact.  It
gave me this error: 
 gnomeicu: error in loading shared libraries: gnomeicu: undefined symbol:
gnome_druid_new

It seemed to install okay; I have all the things it requires to even run
intalled (at least, I think I do.  I wasn't sure if I had perl, but I do.)

I'm probably going to try to do it from source, and see if that helps.  If
not, um, ... yeah.  Meep.

Conni

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[techtalk] icq

2000-02-16 Thread Lighthouse Keeper in the Desert Sun

Okay, so I got the source.  Now, I ./configure'd it, and says this:
[root@sakura gnomeicu-0.90b]# ./configure
loading cache ./config.cache
checking for a BSD compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... yes
checking for working aclocal... found
checking for working autoconf... found
checking for working automake... found
checking for working autoheader... found
checking for working makeinfo... missing
checking whether to enable maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles... no
checking for gnome-config... no
checking for gnomeConf.sh file in /usr/local/lib... not found
configure: error: Could not find the gnomeConf.sh file that is generated
by gnome-libs install


Now, I'm running gnome.  My gnome-core is version 1.0.7-2.  It complies
with their requirements.  I've never seen this file they refer to.  I
have no idea.  Snarf.

Conni

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RE: [techtalk] icq

2000-02-16 Thread Ji Lee

are you sure you have gnome development library?
the file "gnome-config" comes in gnome-lib-devel-1.xx.xx package
You can check by typing "rpm -q -l gnome-libs-devel | egrep gnome-config"


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> Subject: [techtalk] icq
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> 
> Okay, so I got the source.  Now, I ./configure'd it, and says this:
> [root@sakura gnomeicu-0.90b]# ./configure
> loading cache ./config.cache
> checking for a BSD compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
> checking whether build environment is sane... yes
> checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... yes
> checking for working aclocal... found
> checking for working autoconf... found
> checking for working automake... found
> checking for working autoheader... found
> checking for working makeinfo... missing
> checking whether to enable maintainer-specific portions of 
> Makefiles... no
> checking for gnome-config... no
> checking for gnomeConf.sh file in /usr/local/lib... not found
> configure: error: Could not find the gnomeConf.sh file that 
> is generated
> by gnome-libs install
> 
> 
> Now, I'm running gnome.  My gnome-core is version 1.0.7-2.  
> It complies
> with their requirements.  I've never seen this file they 
> refer to.  I
> have no idea.  Snarf.
> 
> Conni
> 
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RE: [techtalk] icq

2000-02-16 Thread Lighthouse Keeper in the Desert Sun

On Feb 16, Ji Lee conjectured:

> are you sure you have gnome development library?
> the file "gnome-config" comes in gnome-lib-devel-1.xx.xx package
> You can check by typing "rpm -q -l gnome-libs-devel | egrep gnome-config"

Bleh.  Guess not.  Too bad my ppp connection sucks too much to download
anything more than  couple hundred K.  Maybe I'll have the boy take the
laptop to work and get them over the T1.  Or just try it from home.  Or
something.

Snarf.

Conni

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Re: [techtalk] career/family question

2000-02-16 Thread Simona Nass

Cynthia Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted to techtalk/linuxchix:
>I plan to build a "mother-in-law" house behind mine so that she'll have
>her own space.  (:

Technically, doesn't a "mother-in-law" refer to something that's part
of your own house but just with a separate entrance, usually (always?)
above? If it's a smaller house behind yours that's separate, I think
that's that's a "cottage." And I think an "au pair" unit is like a
mother-in-law but lacking some of the facilities (separate entrance, but
missing its own kitchen or bathroom or something). I'm pretty sure those
are the terms, but someone correct me if I've gotten any of this wrong.

I also want to have my mom to come and live with me; so does my sister
so we'll either have to duke it out or else I'll have to convince my
sister to move to where I am and that'll simplify everything. I really
like the idea of making extra food and saving them cooking one night, or
vice versa.

BTW, for those who pay extra to have groceries delivered, there are also
chefs offering healthy pre-cooked meals that just need to be heated,
or even those that are delivered hot or some that are actually cooked
in your home. It's becoming quite a nice service for recent parents,
especially single highly-paid working parents in Silicon Valley. They're
done either as a subscription service (specify how many times per week)
or per meal. It's a nice gift if you know any single parents out there,
or even harried two-parent homes or where they don't enjoy the cooking
process itself. (No, I have no affiliation or interest in this other
than thinking it's a neat service.)

-S.


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