Re: [RBW] Custom Appaloosa Update

[Aaron Young]

Liesl,

Thanks for the update - I once took a spin on an old Motobecane Mixte with
like-paired diagatubes. Thought it was really cool.  Any ideas as to when
this bike will become a reality? Can't wait for some pics!

Aaron Young
The Dalles, OR



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Re: [RBW] Giro aspect helmet

[Aaron Young]

That Giro looks pretty nice.  I recently bought a new helmet and went with
a Giro because my old Giro was so comfortable.  I chose the Giro Reverb
from REI: http://www.rei.com/product/844477/giro-reverb-bike-helmet.
 Overall, Its a nice, retro, smooth cue ball shape, but it could use some
more vents, and the fit is not as good as the older Giro because there is
no adjustment in the back to dial in the fit.  Not too expensive though, so
its at least another option in the round helmet category.

-Aaron
The Dalles, OR


On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 8:37 PM, Christopher Chen  wrote:

> I have a very nice uvex helmet, which at $85 was one of the cheapest
> helmets in the store. The kicker is it was also one of the only helmets not
> made in China.
>
> Deutschland! Deutschland! Deutschland!
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 7:26 PM, clayton  wrote:
>
>> This was on my facebook page. I think Grant finally got the helmet he
>> would like. I like the looks, and the low profile, but not the price...To
>> me, it might be the perfect helmet? I just wish it was cheaper. I only
>> found it for sale at one site, for $175.00.
>>
>>  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBGrwYsOaZ0
>>
>> Clayton Bailey, currently helmetless...
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Re: [RBW] FS: Rivendell Atlantis. 56cm - $1600 - North Seattle

[Aaron Young]

Hi there,

I'm interested, but do you have any photos of the bike?  How old is the
bike and how much use has it seen?  Does it have the mid fork braze ons for
connecting a front rack without using p-clamps on the fork?

Thanks,
Aaron

On Thursday, September 5, 2013, suzanne whitehead wrote:

> Beautiful all around bicycle. Lugged steel frame, Standard Rivendell build
> includes 26" wheels, Shimano 7-speed w/ Deore rear, Sugino XT triple,
> Bar-end shifters. Paint in very good condition. Includes fenders. More
> information http://www.rivbike.com/Rivendell-Atlantis-p/f-atlantis.htm
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Re: [RBW] MUSA Shorts - Assistance with Sizing

[Aaron Young]

Hi Garth,

I recently bought a pair of these size Medium.  Here's what I measure:

>
> -First, I'm seeking the *true waist* measurement. Lye flat the shorts,
> measure across the waistband outside to outside, x 2 .  Inches.
>

 31" (15.5 x2)


> -Second, the complete rise. From the top of the waist, down the middle
> seam to the gusset, call this *Front Rise*. Then do the same for the *Back
> Rise*. Then measure *across the gusset* through the virtual middle line.
> These 3 measurements and I'll get a *Total Rise*.
>

10.5+11+6.5= 28"


> -Third, The *outseam*. Just like it sounds, from the top of the side
> waist, down the seam to the bottom hem.
>

17.5"



> -Fourth, The *leg opening*. Lye flat, across the bottom hem . x 2.
>

12.5 x 2 = 25"


Hope it helps.  I've only ridden in these once, but they were just fine.
 Didn't notice them at all, which is a good thing.

Aaron Young
The Dalles, OR

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Re: [RBW] MUSA Shorts - Assistance with Sizing

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I think you would have to unstitch the elastic to remove the plastic
buckle.  Honestly, I don't like the belt much because the buckle seems a
bit bulky, but again when I'm actually wearing them I don't notice.  I
prefer zippers and buttons on shorts and pants because it makes dressing
and bathroom breaks easier.

As for sizing.  I think my waist measures 33-34".  I have knickers in size
L and M, pants in M, and shorts in M.  The Mediums fit my waist a bit
better.  The Large knickers are fine in the waist (a little long in the
legs - almost capri length on my shortish legs), but when I load my pockets
down the waist can droop a bit as it stretches.  In the future I plan to
only buy Mediums.

-Aaron


On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 4:38 PM, Garth  wrote:

> Yes Aaron ... it does help !!
>
> Sounds like I may want a Large or XL.  I wear pants and shorts with the
> waist overly large, and use the belt to take up the extra. Most of my
> shorts are in the 34-36 inch waist relaxed range.
>
> Does the belt in these come right out on it's own ?  The Riv page says
> it's removable, but it appears in the pics the belt is stitched on one end
> to itself.
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Re: [RBW] MUSA Shorts - Assistance with Sizing

[Aaron Young]

Yes, I measured it as it lies on the floor - unstretched.

-Aaron





On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 5:18 PM, Aaron Young <1ce...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I think you would have to unstitch the elastic to remove the plastic
> buckle.  Honestly, I don't like the belt much because the buckle seems a
> bit bulky, but again when I'm actually wearing them I don't notice.  I
> prefer zippers and buttons on shorts and pants because it makes dressing
> and bathroom breaks easier.
>
> As for sizing.  I think my waist measures 33-34".  I have knickers in size
> L and M, pants in M, and shorts in M.  The Mediums fit my waist a bit
> better.  The Large knickers are fine in the waist (a little long in the
> legs - almost capri length on my shortish legs), but when I load my pockets
> down the waist can droop a bit as it stretches.  In the future I plan to
> only buy Mediums.
>
> -Aaron
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 4:38 PM, Garth  wrote:
>
>> Yes Aaron ... it does help !!
>>
>> Sounds like I may want a Large or XL.  I wear pants and shorts with the
>> waist overly large, and use the belt to take up the extra. Most of my
>> shorts are in the 34-36 inch waist relaxed range.
>>
>> Does the belt in these come right out on it's own ?  The Riv page says
>> it's removable, but it appears in the pics the belt is stitched on one end
>> to itself.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Wasco County Country Bike Ramble v2.0... Oct 12

[Aaron Young]

Kind of goes without saying, but for the sake of clarity: I'm in.

-Aaron Young
The Dalles, OR


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[RBW] Ride Report: Recon. Ride for Wasco Cty Ctry Ramble 2.0!

[Aaron Young]

Hey gang,

Let's just get this out of the way. Here're the pictures:

http://flic.kr/s/aHsjJqAYZK

In preparation for the upcoming Wasco County Country Ramble (v2.0, mind
you), I went exploring my new environs around The Dalles, OR.  I ended up
rambling further than I initially intended when I set out this morning (and
really should have taken more water and sunscreen), but in the end I made
it home safely.

The ride took me out south of town via Dry Hollow and 3-mile Roads, but
even though I was going South it was consistently uphill (sorry,
Treebeard).  After 4-5 miles the pavement ends and a wide, gravel road
continues for another 6 or so miles.  Dutch Flat road connects to Skyline
Road which leads all the way back into town.  Going north on Skyline is
pretty much downhill the entire way and was a nice respite from the long
slog out.  Here's the route if you are interested: http://goo.gl/maps/R957B

I rode a Koga-Miyata ValleyRunner that is set up with Albatross bars and
Barcons.  The Keven's bag was perfect for this ride.  The weather was
perfect; not too hot, barely any wind.

I'm not sure if I would recommend this as the actual Wasco County Country
Ramble route.  It was a  good ride, but basically uphill the entire way out
and downhill back in.  I think a more variable route might be a better
option.  Also, this ride goes out to the middle of nowhere and back.  There
are no services out there or stores to grab food or drink.  Smitty and I
will work out a route before the actual Ramble, but if you have any
suggestions please let me know and I can scout them out ahead of time.
 Riding out here (especially road riding) really is a hidden treasure.
 Hopefully the pictures show a bit of that.

-Aaron Young
The Dalles, OR

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[RBW] Re: Ride Report: Recon. Ride for Wasco Cty Ctry Ramble 2.0!

[Aaron Young]

Nothing at all wrong with up and down.  But this route was pretty much
sustained climbing the first half and all downhill the second.  I think it
would be nice to break up the climbing a bit although I don't know if
that's possible out here.  This area is called the Columbia River Gorge,
and it's kind of a bi-level geography; the lower elevation down near the
river, and the higher elevation up on the top of the surrounding
hills/mountains.  There's not a lot of distance to be found in the way
of mid elevation. A route that incorporates some mid elevation would be
ideal, but even if we don't find it, we will have a great ride Oct.12
anyhow!

-Aaron Young
The Dalles, OR

On Friday, September 20, 2013, Deacon Patrick wrote:

> Sounds and looks like a grand ramble itinerary! What's the problem with
> all up, all down? Maybe it's living in Colorado, but I don't understand.
>
> WIth abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Friday, September 20, 2013 1:13:46 AM UTC-6, AaronY wrote:
>>
>> Hey gang,
>>
>> Let's just get this out of the way. Here're the pictures:
>>
>> http://flic.kr/s/aHsjJqAYZK
>>
>> In preparation for the upcoming Wasco County Country Ramble (v2.0, mind
>> you), I went exploring my new environs around The Dalles, OR.  I ended up
>> rambling further than I initially intended when I set out this morning (and
>> really should have taken more water and sunscreen), but in the end I made
>> it home safely.
>>
>> The ride took me out south of town via Dry Hollow and 3-mile Roads, but
>> even though I was going South it was consistently uphill (sorry,
>> Treebeard).  After 4-5 miles the pavement ends and a wide, gravel road
>> continues for another 6 or so miles.  Dutch Flat road connects to Skyline
>> Road which leads all the way back into town.  Going north on Skyline is
>> pretty much downhill the entire way and was a nice respite from the long
>> slog out.  Here's the route if you are interested: http://goo.gl/**
>> maps/R957B <http://goo.gl/maps/R957B>
>>
>> I rode a Koga-Miyata ValleyRunner that is set up with Albatross bars and
>> Barcons.  The Keven's bag was perfect for this ride.  The weather was
>> perfect; not too hot, barely any wind.
>>
>> I'm not sure if I would recommend this as the actual Wasco County Country
>> Ramble route.  It was a  good ride, but basically uphill the entire way out
>> and downhill back in.  I think a more variable route might be a better
>> option.  Also, this ride goes out to the middle of nowhere and back.  There
>> are no services out there or stores to grab food or drink.  Smitty and I
>> will work out a route before the actual Ramble, but if you have any
>> suggestions please let me know and I can scout them out ahead of time.
>>  Riding out here (especially road riding) really is a hidden treasure.
>>  Hopefully the pictures show a bit of that.
>>
>> -Aaron Young
>> The Dalles, OR
>>
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[RBW] Re: Ride Report: Recon. Ride for Wasco Cty Ctry Ramble 2.0!

[Aaron Young]

Thanks, Allan. I will look into it.

-Aaron
The Dalles

On Friday, September 20, 2013, Allan in Portland wrote:

> FWIW, I was out there back in May picking up a few guys that were doing a
> ride. Long story short, there was a mix-up in directions and I found myself
> driving west on 8 Mile road from US197. It ended (and I mean *ended*) with
> a pretty rugged climb, but it was a really cool road that I wished I was on
> my bike and enjoying instead of semi-lost in the van. Might be worth
> further reconnoitering, if you're looking for ideas. :)
>
> Best of luck,
> -Allan
>
> On Friday, September 20, 2013 12:13:46 AM UTC-7, AaronY wrote:
>>
>> Hey gang,
>>
>> Let's just get this out of the way. Here're the pictures:
>>
>> http://flic.kr/s/aHsjJqAYZK
>>
>> In preparation for the upcoming Wasco County Country Ramble (v2.0, mind
>> you), I went exploring my new environs around The Dalles, OR.  I ended up
>> rambling further than I initially intended when I set out this morning (and
>> really should have taken more water and sunscreen), but in the end I made
>> it home safely.
>>
>> The ride took me out south of town via Dry Hollow and 3-mile Roads, but
>> even though I was going South it was consistently uphill (sorry,
>> Treebeard).  After 4-5 miles the pavement ends and a wide, gravel road
>> continues for another 6 or so miles.  Dutch Flat road connects to Skyline
>> Road which leads all the way back into town.  Going north on Skyline is
>> pretty much downhill the entire way and was a nice respite from the long
>> slog out.  Here's the route if you are interested: http://goo.gl/**
>> maps/R957B <http://goo.gl/maps/R957B>
>>
>> I rode a Koga-Miyata ValleyRunner that is set up with Albatross bars and
>> Barcons.  The Keven's bag was perfect for this ride.  The weather was
>> perfect; not too hot, barely any wind.
>>
>> I'm not sure if I would recommend this as the actual Wasco County Country
>> Ramble route.  It was a  good ride, but basically uphill the entire way out
>> and downhill back in.  I think a more variable route might be a better
>> option.  Also, this ride goes out to the middle of nowhere and back.  There
>> are no services out there or stores to grab food or drink.  Smitty and I
>> will work out a route before the actual Ramble, but if you have any
>> suggestions please let me know and I can scout them out ahead of time.
>>  Riding out here (especially road riding) really is a hidden treasure.
>>  Hopefully the pictures show a bit of that.
>>
>> -Aaron Young
>> The Dalles, OR
>>
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Re: [RBW] Wasco County Country Bike Ramble v2.0... Oct 12

[Aaron Young]

We won't leave without you.  Just make sure you bring the Large Saddlesack.

-Aaron
The Dalles, OR

On Thursday, September 26, 2013, Christopher Chen wrote:

> I'm flying back the friday (11th), so as long as we're heading out
> Saturday morning, I'm good.
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 5:06 PM, Aaron Young 
> <1ce...@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> Kind of goes without saying, but for the sake of clarity: I'm in.
>>
>> -Aaron Young
>> The Dalles, OR
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Zack > 'cvml', 'zack...@gmail.com');>
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Re: [RBW] Country Bike (in the city) Ramble, Portland: Saturday October 5

[Aaron Young]

Great write up, Shawn, and it sounds like a great ride.  Perfect weather!
 I'm sad to have missed it. Hopefully I'll make it to the next one.

-Aaron Young
The Dalles, OR

On Monday, October 7, 2013, Shawn Granton wrote:

> Hey everyone, thanks for the kind words!
>
> I finally got a report written up. You can read it over on my blog:
>
> http://urbanadventureleague.blogspot.com/2013/10/ride-report-country-bike-ramble-sat-5.html
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[RBW] Ride report: Wasco County Country Ramble / coffee break

[Aaron Young]

Hey gang,

A group of 9 met at my place in The Dalles, Wasco County, Oregon for a
country ramble. The weather was a bit drizzly to begin with, but luckily
only threatened to rain and we had a dry, though overcast ride. Temps were
nice in the mid fifties.  The pack of nine endured a 50-mile loop to the
south and east of The Dalles with the majority of roads being gravel and
seemingly uphill; a few climbs had grades in the double digits. The terrain
in this part of OR is very hilly so each steep climb was paired with an
equally steep descent.

Highlights included:

- a pre-lunch lunch stop across from an abandoned school house which is
said to have been built in 1904 and next to an old cemetery with
gravestones with dates from the first half of the 1800's

- a lunch stop in the rural town of Dufur where Zach treated us with fancy
and tasty hot coffee

- miles and miles of nearly car-less gravel roads surrounded by picturesque
farms and wheat fields

- a post ride meal at the local taco truck in downtown The Dalles

Lots of pics are sure to follow.

Aaron Young
The Dalles, OR

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[RBW] Re: Ride report: Wasco County Country Ramble / coffee break

[Aaron Young]

Brian,

It was a great ride. I hope you can make it to the next Wasco county ride.

-Aaron
The Dalles, OR

On Sunday, October 13, 2013, stonehog wrote:

> Aaron - looks like a great ride!  So sad to have missed this one.  I was
> down that way a month ago for a camping trip, and the country surrounding
> The Dalles is gorgeous!
>
> Brian
> Seattle, WA
>
> On Saturday, October 12, 2013 9:40:31 PM UTC-7, AaronY wrote:
>>
>> Hey gang,
>>
>> A group of 9 met at my place in The Dalles, Wasco County, Oregon for a
>> country ramble. The weather was a bit drizzly to begin with, but luckily
>> only threatened to rain and we had a dry, though overcast ride. Temps were
>> nice in the mid fifties.  The pack of nine endured a 50-mile loop to the
>> south and east of The Dalles with the majority of roads being gravel and
>> seemingly uphill; a few climbs had grades in the double digits. The terrain
>> in this part of OR is very hilly so each steep climb was paired with an
>> equally steep descent.
>>
>> Highlights included:
>>
>> - a pre-lunch lunch stop across from an abandoned school house which is
>> said to have been built in 1904 and next to an old cemetery with
>> gravestones with dates from the first half of the 1800's
>>
>> - a lunch stop in the rural town of Dufur where Zach treated us with
>> fancy and tasty hot coffee
>>
>> - miles and miles of nearly car-less gravel roads surrounded by
>> picturesque farms and wheat fields
>>
>> - a post ride meal at the local taco truck in downtown The Dalles
>>
>> Lots of pics are sure to follow.
>>
>> Aaron Young
>> The Dalles, OR
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Ride report: Wasco County Country Ramble / coffee break

[Aaron Young]

Thanks for all the kind words everyone.  Here's a few more pics from my
iPhone.

http://flic.kr/s/aHsjKHZsj2

-Aaron
The Dalles, OR



On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 8:18 PM, hsmitham  wrote:

> What a great ride, with good friends. I like what Zack said about the
> silence (no auto's) which has to ramp up the wow factor. And the descents
> looked amazingly fun. One of these days...
>
> ~Hugh
>
>
> On Saturday, October 12, 2013 9:40:31 PM UTC-7, AaronY wrote:
>
>> Hey gang,
>>
>> A group of 9 met at my place in The Dalles, Wasco County, Oregon for a
>> country ramble. The weather was a bit drizzly to begin with, but luckily
>> only threatened to rain and we had a dry, though overcast ride. Temps were
>> nice in the mid fifties.  The pack of nine endured a 50-mile loop to the
>> south and east of The Dalles with the majority of roads being gravel and
>> seemingly uphill; a few climbs had grades in the double digits. The terrain
>> in this part of OR is very hilly so each steep climb was paired with an
>> equally steep descent.
>>
>> Highlights included:
>>
>> - a pre-lunch lunch stop across from an abandoned school house which is
>> said to have been built in 1904 and next to an old cemetery with
>> gravestones with dates from the first half of the 1800's
>>
>> - a lunch stop in the rural town of Dufur where Zach treated us with
>> fancy and tasty hot coffee
>>
>> - miles and miles of nearly car-less gravel roads surrounded by
>> picturesque farms and wheat fields
>>
>> - a post ride meal at the local taco truck in downtown The Dalles
>>
>> Lots of pics are sure to follow.
>>
>> Aaron Young
>> The Dalles, OR
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Ride report: Wasco County Country Ramble / coffee break

[Aaron Young]

Cecily,

I have a pic of Bruce's sketch as well.  It shows the other side of the
page he drew.  Also, added a shot of Shawn and Julian (or is it Julius)
that somehow got left out of the original set.

http://flic.kr/s/aHsjKHZsj2


-Aaron "Keeper of The Dalles" Young
The Dalles, OR


On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Andy Smitty Schmidt <54ca...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Hey Cecily,
>
> Bruce is a man of the sea and the land. Often, as on this trip, he brings
> a sketch book instead of a camera. It's quite impressive to thumb through
> current and previous books and seeing the personal touch that is not
> captured in photographs. His blog has the occasional sketch, and the
> stories are worth reading. The majority of his sketches are only viewable
> in person.
>
> --Smitty
>
>
>
> On Sunday, October 13, 2013 11:58:21 PM UTC-7, Cecily Walker wrote:
>>
>> I'd love to see more of Bruce's sketches!
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: bridgestone posters for sale at Riv!

[Aaron Young]

And they are all sold out???  Anyone get one in their cart over at
RivBike.Gov or whatever the site is?

-Aaron "I admit I'm happy to pay a Riv Tax, and I sure don't mean to make
Riv sound bad in anyway, just thought that was kind of funny" Young
The Dalles, OR


On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 12:51 AM, Joe Bernard  wrote:

> Simplex derailers!
>
> On Monday, October 21, 2013 11:36:53 PM UTC-7, sameness wrote:
>
>> Methinks that attic must be the retrogrouch's Field of Dreams.
>>
>> Next up: three dozen Mavic starfish cranks and a metric tonne of Nuovo
>> Record gum hoods.
>>
>> Jeff Hagedorn
>> Warragul, VIC Australia
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Re: [RBW] bridgestone posters for sale at Riv!

[Aaron Young]

Yes, I was just being light hearted.  I don't consider Riv prices to be
literally taxing, and Riv sure never forced me to buy anything wether I
wanted to or not. When I went to type Rivbike.com Rivbike.gov came out of
my fingers.  Instead of correcting it, I just went with it.

Even better than Rivbike.gov though would be Rivbike.guv'na.  Well, maybe...

-Aaron "has a horrible fake English accent" Young
The Dalles, OR

On Wednesday, October 23, 2013, Michael wrote:

> Thanks Joe for letting me know.
>>
> Sorry you have to pay sales tax. But the good thing about living there is
> the lack of winter you all have there. Though it was colder in the SF area
> today than here in central MD.
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Re: [RBW] Re: POLL: You like Gray or black housing for your Rivendell? Ferrules?

[Aaron Young]

Andy beat me to the punch.  If I had to choose, I'd probably go with gray,
but I mix and match as I feel and also based on what I have lying around.
 Right now I have both black and gray on the Sam H.

-Aaron Y
The Dalles, OR


On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 9:46 PM, Michael  wrote:

> I see Jagwire even makes reflective housing now. What a great idea.:
>>
>  http://jagwire.com/products/v/universal_sport_brake
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Re: [RBW] FS: WoolyWarm Vest Tweed Sweater - Derby Green, Large

[Aaron Young]

Hi Joe,

I've been looking for one.  If still available I'll take it.

Thanks,
Aaron


On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 2:17 AM, Joe Bernard  wrote:

> New condition, worn a couple times for short rides, then the weather
> warmed up, then I gained 20 pounds, then, well..here it is. Goes for 85 new
> from Riv and all they have right now is 2XL. How does $70 shipped sound?
>
> Pics on request
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> Vallejo, CA.
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Re: [RBW] Half Mitts

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I used a thumbless pair through winter, and with a light liner type glove
(with a thumb) they were just fine for my short commute.

My wife knitted me some custom wool gloves based on a design I suggested
that complement the half mitts nicely.  They are fingerless and thumbless,
but the thumb has a convertible cap that can fold down to cover the thumb
from the cold when needed.  They are a little goofy, but worked really well
for me.  The nice thing is everything is covered, but I could easily
uncover the tips of all finger and even thumb if I needed.

I recently bought a thumbed paid of half mitts, but haven't had the need to
use them yet.  They seem a bit bulkier than the thumbless versions because
of the thumbs of course, but also they are fuzzier on the inside than the
older version - the material is different.  They will probably be better
for colder temps with the extra fuzz in there.

Aaron "air conditioned fingertips" Young
The Dalles, OR

On Monday, November 11, 2013, Edwin W wrote:

> Half baked, or well done?
> I got a pair in my last order,
> and they are working great for this fall transition weather. During the
> day, I can go bare handed, but sometimes in the late afternoons or evenings
> it gets chilly for bare hands. These half mitts are light, pack easily
> anywhere and warm up your hands when it gets too chilly. I am commuting in
> them now and we will see how cold it can be for them to stay functional.
> When they are not doing the job, I might try a pair of light gloves under
> them instead of just switching to heavier gloves. Layering, all about the
> layering.
>
> I am so glad they added the thumbs.
>
> I wish they would put a reflective strip on the back for signalling,
> etc... as cold weather often goes together with dark.
>
> Edwin
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Re: [RBW] OT: What would YOU do?

[Aaron Young]

Shawn,

Nice saddle.  I would definitely ask more than $50 for it.  :^)

I think you can flag it.  And it would be easy enough to have a few others
do the same.  That would get it removed from CL at least.  I know for
certain that this kind of thing (stealing someone else's photos) is not
allowed on ebay - goes against their terms of service.  I would imaging CL
has a similar policy... but I'm too lazy to check that right now.

I wonder if the seller actually does have a Brooks and they just didn't
have a picture so they snagged your pic.  But if they can snag it from
Flickr, then it seems they should be able to contact you to ask permission
though, right?

Sending the seller a bill might be an interesting way to contact the
seller.

I don't think you should ignore it.  Its not a huge deal in context of the
world's problems, but its still not cool of a guy/gal to do, and probably
against CL terms of service (I'm still too lazy to check).

That's my opinion on the matter.  Good luck!

Aaron Young
The Dalles, OR




On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 11:12 PM, Shawn Granton <
urbanadventurelea...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello friends, I figured I'd ask the great braintrust that is the Riv list
> for a little assistance.
>
> Today I took a peek at Portland's bike section on Craigslist, as I am wont
> to do from time to time. And I noticed this ad:
> http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/4188282827.html
> *BROOKS LEATHER SADDLE MINT CONDITION WOMANS - $50 (Downtown)*
> *I have a woman's brooks leather saddle in EXCELLENT condition .. Asking
> 50 firm. Please email thank you . Still posted ?? That means I still have
> it . *(When I saw the listing earlier in the day, it included a phone
> number, but it's no longer there.)
>
> Now an EXCELLENT condition Brooks for $50 seems a bit low, especially in
> Portland. But what really grabbed me was the pic. The Brooks Flyer, the
> Carradice Lowsaddle bag, the ugly turquoise garage door in the
> background...why does it seem so...*familiar?*
>
> Oh yeah, because *the photo is mine.*
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/urbanadventureleaguepdx/6645856603/in/set-72157628742612855
> It's a pic of my ex-gf's 1961 Raleigh Sports. (And to be noted because I'm
> anal: the Brooks saddle in my pic is actually a "regular" Champion Flyer,
> not the "womans" version.)
>
> Has this happened to anyone before? What would you do in my shoes? Ignore
> it? Report it to CL (if that would do anything?) Contact the seller? Send
> said seller a bill for using my image?
>
> I'm flummoxed.
>
> -Shawn
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Re: [RBW] Half Mitts

[Aaron Young]

Update:

Went on a short ride in low 40's-degrees weathers, plus some winds, so
temps at the lowest in upper 30's perhaps.  I used the new half-mitts with
the thumb.  I was surprised at how bulky the thumb felt, and it was a bit
awkward to get the thumb out.  The half mitts are nice because you can
quickly remove your fingers, but the full thumb has to be pulled off
separately just like a regular glove.  Its a small thing, and in really
cold weather probably would be worth it, but on an only mildly cold ride, I
think I'll stick with the old style, thumbless half-mitts.

I think I would prefer a half-thumb, instead of a full thumb cover, though.
 Then it would cover the tip of the thumb and the back (dorsal side), but
leave the palmar open - just like the rest of the mitt.

-Aaron Young
The Dalles, OR


On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Aaron Young <1ce...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I used a thumbless pair through winter, and with a light liner type glove
> (with a thumb) they were just fine for my short commute.
>
> My wife knitted me some custom wool gloves based on a design I suggested
> that complement the half mitts nicely.  They are fingerless and thumbless,
> but the thumb has a convertible cap that can fold down to cover the thumb
> from the cold when needed.  They are a little goofy, but worked really well
> for me.  The nice thing is everything is covered, but I could easily
> uncover the tips of all finger and even thumb if I needed.
>
> I recently bought a thumbed paid of half mitts, but haven't had the
> need to use them yet.  They seem a bit bulkier than the thumbless versions
> because of the thumbs of course, but also they are fuzzier on the inside
> than the older version - the material is different.  They will probably be
> better for colder temps with the extra fuzz in there.
>
> Aaron "air conditioned fingertips" Young
> The Dalles, OR
>
>
> On Monday, November 11, 2013, Edwin W wrote:
>
>> Half baked, or well done?
>> I got a pair <http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/ag4.htm>in my last order,
>> and they are working great for this fall transition weather. During the
>> day, I can go bare handed, but sometimes in the late afternoons or evenings
>> it gets chilly for bare hands. These half mitts are light, pack easily
>> anywhere and warm up your hands when it gets too chilly. I am commuting in
>> them now and we will see how cold it can be for them to stay functional.
>> When they are not doing the job, I might try a pair of light gloves under
>> them instead of just switching to heavier gloves. Layering, all about the
>> layering.
>>
>> I am so glad they added the thumbs.
>>
>> I wish they would put a reflective strip on the back for signalling,
>> etc... as cold weather often goes together with dark.
>>
>> Edwin
>>
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[RBW] Sam H. + Hetres + Fenders = Tire Rub?

[Aaron Young]

Hey gang,

I have Hetres on my first-gen (gold 'n' green) Sam H. with VO Zeppelin
fenders.  Clearances are fairly tight, but there is no tire rub as long as
the wheels are true and the fenders are adjusted properly.

However, under heavy pedaling it seems (sounds/feels like) some tire rub
may occur as the bike flexes.  I can't see any wear marks on the tire, but
any degree of tire rub is concerning to me.  I'm considering swapping tires
to something a bit smaller, but before I do I want to ask the bunch:

If you have a Sam H and are running 650bx42mm tires and have fenders, then
what is your experience?  What tires and fenders are you using?  Any
rubbing?

Thanks,

Aaron "In general I like a rub, but just not tire rub" Young
The Dalles, OR

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[RBW] Sam H. + Hetres + Fenders = Tire Rub?

[Aaron Young]

Shoji:  just a single kickstand.  Maybe you are onto something with the low
tire pressure though. I generally run pretty low pressures. I'll try to
pump them up a bit and see what changes.

Peter:  my wheels are fairly true.  No significant wobbles just from an
eyeball test. Also, the Hetres seem to be mounted uniformly without any
lumps or bumps on the VO Wheelset. I think they are the diagonal rims and
grand cru touring hub combo.

Thanks,

Aaron

On Wednesday, February 19, 2014, Shoji Takahashi
>
wrote:

> Hi Aaron,
> Might seem like a weird question, but do you have a [double] kickstand on
> the Sam?
>
> I had tire rub (26" Big Bens on a Hunqapillar) on the Pletscher double
> kickstand. Clearance was generally fine, but with low tire pressure and
> hard pedaling, there was enough lateral movement to get rub.
>
> shoji
>
> On Wednesday, February 19, 2014 12:50:37 AM UTC-5, AaronY wrote:
>>
>> Hey gang,
>>
>> I have Hetres on my first-gen (gold 'n' green) Sam H. with VO Zeppelin
>> fenders.  Clearances are fairly tight, but there is no tire rub as long as
>> the wheels are true and the fenders are adjusted properly.
>>
>> However, under heavy pedaling it seems (sounds/feels like) some tire rub
>> may occur as the bike flexes.  I can't see any wear marks on the tire, but
>> any degree of tire rub is concerning to me.  I'm considering swapping tires
>> to something a bit smaller, but before I do I want to ask the bunch:
>>
>> If you have a Sam H and are running 650bx42mm tires and have fenders,
>> then what is your experience?  What tires and fenders are you using?  Any
>> rubbing?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>  Aaron "In general I like a rub, but just not tire rub" Young
>> The Dalles, OR
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[RBW] Re: Sam H. + Hetres + Fenders = Tire Rub?

[Aaron Young]

I pumped the Hetres up to 50psi and went on a ride today.  Overall, there
was less of a feeling/sound of a rub.  However, occasionally under heavy
load the feeling persisted.  Wondering if maybe its a bottom bracket issue
(or maybe even a seat issue?).

For reference I just measured my Hetres and at 50 psi they measure almost
exactly 42mm on the VO rims.

I don't think I'm at problem solved just yet, so I'll keep looking.

Thanks for the help so far.

-Aaron



On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 8:35 PM, carnerda...@bellsouth.net <
carnerda...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> I have a 52 green and gold Sam H with the original Fatty Rumpkins and VO
> stainless steel fenders (58 mm).  There is greater than 1 cm clearance
> between tire and fender all around, front and rear.  No rubbing.
> Incidentally, the Fatty Rumpkins measure slightly wider (39mm) on Atlas
> rims than my Hetres (38 mm) on Synergy rims.
> David
>
>
> On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 11:50:37 PM UTC-6, AaronY wrote:
>>
>> Hey gang,
>>
>> I have Hetres on my first-gen (gold 'n' green) Sam H. with VO Zeppelin
>> fenders.  Clearances are fairly tight, but there is no tire rub as long as
>> the wheels are true and the fenders are adjusted properly.
>>
>> However, under heavy pedaling it seems (sounds/feels like) some tire rub
>> may occur as the bike flexes.  I can't see any wear marks on the tire, but
>> any degree of tire rub is concerning to me.  I'm considering swapping tires
>> to something a bit smaller, but before I do I want to ask the bunch:
>>
>> If you have a Sam H and are running 650bx42mm tires and have fenders,
>> then what is your experience?  What tires and fenders are you using?  Any
>> rubbing?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>  Aaron "In general I like a rub, but just not tire rub" Young
>> The Dalles, OR
>>
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[RBW] New Compass tires?

[Aaron Young]

I was wondering the same thing.  I have no insider info, but my guess is
the Babyshoe is a rebranded Hetre in a different color.  I very well could
be wrong though.

Aaron "willing to hazzard a guess" Young
The Dalles, OR


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> So, how does a Babyshoe Pass compare to a Hetre?
>
> (Also, typo on the Babyshoe link, takes you to the Loup Loup page; and, it
> has a 28.5" MTB listed instead of 27.5")
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[RBW] New Compass tires?

[Aaron Young]

Samsonite!  I was way off...

-Aaron "and Dumber" Young :)
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On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 4:28 AM, Matthew J  wrote:

> Yes, per Jan's blog entry on point there are differences between the
> Compass and GB.  In addition to thinner tread Eric mentions, less tread on
> the side of the Compass than the GB.
>
>
> On Sunday, February 23, 2014 5:51:36 AM UTC-6, Eric Daume wrote:
>
>> No, if you read the comments on Jan's post, he mentions the new Babyshoe
>> has a thinner tread than the Hetre.
>>
>> Eric Daume
>> Dublin, OH
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 2:42 AM, Aaron Young <1ce...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I was wondering the same thing.  I have no insider info, but my guess is
>>> the Babyshoe is a rebranded Hetre in a different color.  I very well could
>>> be wrong though.
>>>
>>> Aaron "willing to hazzard a guess" Young
>>> The Dalles, OR
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 6:40 PM, Leslie  wrote:
>>>
>>>> So, how does a Babyshoe Pass compare to a Hetre?
>>>>
>>>> (Also, typo on the Babyshoe link, takes you to the Loup Loup page; and,
>>>> it has a 28.5" MTB listed instead of 27.5")
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[RBW] Re: aghast by Rivendells aeropressing technique.

[Aaron Young]

Thanks for the link, Zack.  I'm still trying to get the grind:steep ratio
right.

I don't believe Riv is selling the stainless steel reusable filter so this
should be kosher to post. Amazon has a couple versions, and I bought the el
cheapo version.  It seems to be a near replica of the $15+ one I've seen
advertised elsewhere.

Here's an el_cheapo link.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FJTH1S6/ref=oh_details_o06_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

-Aaron "you guessed it, el cheapo" Young
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> inverted aeropress:  http://stumptowncoffee.com/brew-guides/aeropress/
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[RBW] WTB: Rivendell Atlantis

[Aaron Young]

Congratulations, Mike!  I would not complain if you decided to share some
pics when you get your build dialed in.

Aaron Young
The Dalles, OR




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> Hugh,
> I did get an Atlantis and couldn't be happier! Although it was not the
> linked CL post in this thread, I purchased it from a private seller. This
> board is such a great resource, thanks for everyone's help. Im now a proud
> Riv owner. I'm in the process of doing a little work on it, when I am
> finished I will post some pics.
> Thanks again to all the people that looked out for me
>
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[RBW] Re: Dalles Mountain 3/9

[Aaron Young]

Annd the link:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/sk8_or_die/sets/72157642185469395/

-AY


On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 9:09 PM, Aaron Young <1ce...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Here's a few more pics from the ride.  Some are pretty bad photo wise, but
> content wise they are great!  This was a challenging ride, but tons-o-fun.
>
> Aaron "my legs are feeling it today" Young
> The Dalles, OR
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 8:26 PM, Manuel Acosta <
> manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Stone Hedge? Looks familiar I'm pretty sure I went there.
>>
>>
>> On Monday, March 10, 2014 6:29:26 PM UTC-7, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote:
>>>
>>> Hugh -
>>> Did you click the link? Full-size + Astronomically aligned replica built
>>> during WW1 as a monument to the fallen and (then) still falling soldiers. I
>>> would like to return when the sun is out. Would be a neat place to hang
>>> around for sunrise or sunset. Our time there was short as we still had 25+
>>> miles to ride with a few hundred feet of elevation gain and lots of 
>>> gravel...
>>> and 2 hours of day light.
>>>
>>> The list of possible places to go this summer is long.
>>>
>>> --Smitty
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 10, 2014 6:13:45 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Ah I meant Maryhill Duh.
>>>>
>>>> ~Hugh
>>>>
>>>> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
>>>> moving." -- Albert Einstein
>>>>
>>>> http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 5:44 PM, hsmitham  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Andy,
>>>>>
>>>>> Looks like a great ride. The Mayhill hengy thing is cool.
>>>>>
>>>>> ~Hugh
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, March 10, 2014 2:49:37 PM UTC-7, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Some of the Portland country bike crew rode the Dalles Mountain 60
>>>>>> route... the day after the actual DM60 event.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> route info <http://velodirt.com/portfolio/dalles-mountain-60/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pics <http://flic.kr/s/aHsjUiJVGR>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> among the highlights were...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> a 12 mile ascent on a muddy dirt road... sticky fender clogging mud.
>>>>>> this 25% of the ride took about half the time.
>>>>>> bush whacking across a thorny gully to access/ride the Maryhill
>>>>>> Loops Rd. <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maryhill_Loops_Road>
>>>>>> riding in 2 states
>>>>>> visiting the Maryhill 
>>>>>> Stonehenge<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maryhill_Stonehenge>
>>>>>> crossing the Columbia River twice
>>>>>> riding the last 5 miles after dark
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --Smitty
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Re: [RBW] Re: Dalles Mountain 3/9

[Aaron Young]

Here's a few more pics from the ride.  Some are pretty bad photo wise, but
content wise they are great!  This was a challenging ride, but tons-o-fun.

Aaron "my legs are feeling it today" Young
The Dalles, OR


On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 8:26 PM, Manuel Acosta  wrote:

> Stone Hedge? Looks familiar I'm pretty sure I went there.
>
>
> On Monday, March 10, 2014 6:29:26 PM UTC-7, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote:
>>
>> Hugh -
>> Did you click the link? Full-size + Astronomically aligned replica built
>> during WW1 as a monument to the fallen and (then) still falling soldiers. I
>> would like to return when the sun is out. Would be a neat place to hang
>> around for sunrise or sunset. Our time there was short as we still had 25+
>> miles to ride with a few hundred feet of elevation gain and lots of gravel...
>> and 2 hours of day light.
>>
>> The list of possible places to go this summer is long.
>>
>> --Smitty
>>
>>
>> On Monday, March 10, 2014 6:13:45 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:
>>>
>>> Ah I meant Maryhill Duh.
>>>
>>> ~Hugh
>>>
>>> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
>>> moving." -- Albert Einstein
>>>
>>> http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 5:44 PM, hsmitham  wrote:
>>>
 Andy,

 Looks like a great ride. The Mayhill hengy thing is cool.

 ~Hugh

 On Monday, March 10, 2014 2:49:37 PM UTC-7, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote:
>
> Some of the Portland country bike crew rode the Dalles Mountain 60
> route... the day after the actual DM60 event.
>
> route info 
>
> Pics 
>
> among the highlights were...
>
> a 12 mile ascent on a muddy dirt road... sticky fender clogging mud.
> this 25% of the ride took about half the time.
> bush whacking across a thorny gully to access/ride the Maryhill Loops
> Rd. 
> riding in 2 states
> visiting the Maryhill 
> Stonehenge
> crossing the Columbia River twice
> riding the last 5 miles after dark
>
> --Smitty
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[RBW] Re: Grant on tires

[Aaron Young]

I too prefer Joy over Work.  However, I think Grant is probably making his
decision based on more than just the feel of the tire.  He would likely be
willing to concede that a lighter tire with a supple(r) casing and thin
tread might provide a superior ride, but the benefits of a thicker tread
and stiffer sidewall outweigh those performance gains.

-Aaron Young
The Dalles, OR


On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 7:23 AM, tdusky  wrote:

> From my own experience, Riding on tires that Jan likes is pure joy, Riding
> on tires that Grant likes is work. I prefer joy over work.
> Tom Dusky
> Huntington Woods, MI
>
>
> On Friday, March 14, 2014 8:59:31 AM UTC-4, stevef wrote:
>>
>> Interesting encapsulation of Grant's preference for beefier tires.  (vs
>> the supple casing, light racy tires Jan espouses)  From the RBW website
>> description of a Conti tire:
>>
>> "...It has a good, stiff sidewall for reduced flex and fatigue, and for
>> more support should you ever have to ride it dead flat. Wire bead. Combo
>> tread. Mounts easily and as straight as an arrow, with no massaging out the
>> bumps..."
>>
>> Steve
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Re: [RBW] Re: Blue Riot

[Aaron Young]

Since we're talking about how to mispronounce things this may be the only
chance I get to say I actually prefer the incorrect (to my knowledge) way
of saying bleriot.  I like to say it so it rhymes with chariot.  Like
Cheviot, but with an R.

Aaron "Far From French, for better or worse" Young
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On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 5:34 AM, Ron Mc  wrote:

> We need a good old American name on these Taiwanese frames - oh...never
> mind.
>
>
> On Tuesday, March 18, 2014 6:37:32 AM UTC-5, Michael Hechmer wrote:
>>
>> When I was commuting and stopped in the left hand lane at a traffic light
>> I sometimes found myself next to a motorcycle.  I would always look over at
>> the guy and say, "Hey man, your bikes maken a funny noise; has it been coin
>> that for long?"  Never failed to get a laugh.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>> On Monday, March 17, 2014 9:20:59 PM UTC-4, Andy Williams wrote:
>>>
>>> So, I'm on the commute tonight, stopped at a light, and the woman in the
>>> car next to me rolls down her window, smiles and says, 'Nice bike!  I've
>>> never seen a Blue Riot before!'
>>>
>>> And, I respond, 'Thanks!  It's a Bleriot!'
>>>
>>> And she asks, 'So, it's a French bike?'
>>>
>>> The light changed, and we're off..
>>>
>>> So here it is, the Blue Riot...
>>>
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/awilliams53/10790990694/
>>>
>>> Andy
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Blue Riot

[Aaron Young]

Ah, that explains it then.  My roots all go back to England, Scotland, and
Wales.  Thank you for enlightening me a bit!

Aaron Young
The Dalles, OR


On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 6:50 PM, Ron Mc  wrote:

> for the Brits, it's cultural to Anglicize the French language.  In 1905
> the world casting champion, a Frenchman, Louis Bougle, approached Hardy
> Brothers to build him a reel to his specification.  The reel is still
> produced, and is up to the MkVIII.  Hardy calls it the Boog-lay.
>
> On Tuesday, March 18, 2014 12:19:58 PM UTC-5, AaronY wrote:
>
>> Since we're talking about how to mispronounce things this may be the only
>> chance I get to say I actually prefer the incorrect (to my knowledge) way
>> of saying bleriot.  I like to say it so it rhymes with chariot.  Like
>> Cheviot, but with an R.
>>
>> Aaron "Far From French, for better or worse" Young
>> The Dalles, OR
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 5:34 AM, Ron Mc  wrote:
>>
>>> We need a good old American name on these Taiwanese frames - oh...never
>>> mind.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, March 18, 2014 6:37:32 AM UTC-5, Michael Hechmer wrote:
>>>>
>>>> When I was commuting and stopped in the left hand lane at a traffic
>>>> light I sometimes found myself next to a motorcycle.  I would always look
>>>> over at the guy and say, "Hey man, your bikes maken a funny noise; has it
>>>> been coin that for long?"  Never failed to get a laugh.
>>>>
>>>> Michael
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, March 17, 2014 9:20:59 PM UTC-4, Andy Williams wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> So, I'm on the commute tonight, stopped at a light, and the woman in
>>>>> the car next to me rolls down her window, smiles and says, 'Nice bike!
>>>>>  I've never seen a Blue Riot before!'
>>>>>
>>>>> And, I respond, 'Thanks!  It's a Bleriot!'
>>>>>
>>>>> And she asks, 'So, it's a French bike?'
>>>>>
>>>>> The light changed, and we're off..
>>>>>
>>>>> So here it is, the Blue Riot...
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/awilliams53/10790990694/
>>>>>
>>>>> Andy
>>>>>
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[RBW] need club name

[Aaron Young]

Meandonneurring is the perfect description for the types of rides I would
like to do more of. Great thinking there, Patrick.

-Aaron Young
The Dalles, OR

On Sunday, March 23, 2014, Philip Williamson 
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> Great new word "meandonneurs!"
>
> Philip
> www.biketinker.com
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[RBW] How do you post pictures to the list?

[Aaron Young]

There are many different ways to do that.  One commonly used way on this
list is to use a service like Flicrk or Google's Picasa (right?) and then
copy/paste a link from one of those services.  If you aren't familiar with
those or other equivalent services, you might have to do some "homework"
and reading on those sites to get through the beginning of the learning
curve.

Personally, I started using Flickr because I saw many others here using it.
 I generally take photos with my iPhone and upload to Flickr via the iOS
Flickr app.  Then at home on my computer I organize, name, add detail, etc.
 Then I copy/paste a link to the album or set I want to share and send it
out via email.  My workflow is obviously not too sophisticated or novel,
but it is easy enough for me.

Others may have slicker/quicker methods which if not too OT I would love to
hear about.

Aaron Young
The Dalles, OR




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> I can't do it with my phone and can't do it on the computer.  It says
> something about too many pixels and orientation, and so on and do forth.
>  I'm using an iPhone to take the pics.  Surely you all have better cameras
> or similar and can do this.
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[RBW] Re: 26" Tire Suggestions?

[Aaron Young]

Michael,

Congratulations on finding a Valley Runner!  I have one too set up with
albatross bars and Big Bens.  I love riding it.

Here's a photo with Big Bens mounted - sorry its not a close up.

https://flic.kr/p/j747TN

My vote is for the Big Bens.  They are 2.15" but a really great tire; good
on the road and great on gravel/fire trails and not insane single track
(haven't done much of that though, to be honest).  I haven't tried putting
fenders on there yet, but it looks like there is plenty of room still.  I
haven't tried other tires so can't comment on the offerings from Compass or
Schwalbe.

Enjoy your Valley Runner!  Hope to see some pics when you get done building
it up. :)

-Aaron "Valley Running in The Dalles" Young
The Dalles, OR


On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 11:08 PM, stonehog  wrote:

> Daniel - yeah - I mean the 1.75s (44mm).  Typo on my part...
>
> Brian
>
>
> On Thursday, April 10, 2014 12:11:57 PM UTC-7, Daniel M wrote:
>>
>> My wife and two or three other friends with 26" Long Haul Truckers and
>> one with a repurposed old 90's mountain bike have all run 2.0" Big Apples
>> and love the way they ride. One of them has upgraded to 2.15" Big Bens and
>> they fit the Long Haul with fenders.
>>
>> I have a 26" touring tank (Thorn Raven Tour) and rode 2.15" Big Apples
>> for a couple of years until the rear was worn smooth (er - even smoother!).
>> I think I had one flat the entire time and loved the way they rode as well.
>> Since then I've upgraded to 2.35" Super Motos (basically a Big Apple with a
>> folding bead and no kevlar belt). All I can say is - I'm in heaven. It
>> sounds like they might be a bit too big to fit your bike (though for the
>> record, the nice people at Thorn told me they doubted a 2.35 would fit the
>> frame even without fenders and it fits fine with them - SKS P65s). I did
>> have to order them from Germany, but the cost was not much more than a pair
>> of Big Apples when all was said and done.
>>
>> I haven't tried Kojaks but I hear great things about them - if I had to
>> limit myself to a 2.0 this would very likely be my choice. I am confused by
>> the other posters recommending Compass 2.0s - if I were convinced of their
>> existence I would find them very intriguing, but the website only shows
>> 1.5" and 1.75" and my current philosophy is to run the biggest, supplest,
>> lightest tire that will fit.
>>
>> Daniel M
>> Berkeley, CA
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[RBW] Haxes and Atchetts

[Aaron Young]

Riv content: a $280 dollar axe (including shipping)? ;)

Kidding aside, I wonder if the twisting motion when the axe head hits the
wood with force would be hard on the wrists.  Might only be an issue with
those first few powerful strikes if at all. Definitely impressive though.

-Aaron Young
The Dalles, OR

On Wednesday, April 23, 2014, Cyclofiend Jim 
wrote:

> Apropos of steel and wood:
>
>
> http://www.geek.com/news/physics-exploiting-axe-splits-wood-in-record-time-1591725/
>
> Pretty compelling.
>
> - J / cyclofiend.com
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[RBW] Re: Free pink cloth bar tape

[Aaron Young]

Just (pink-tape) curious - what would pink tape look like with a few coats
of amber shellac? Anyone know or even have a photo?

-Aaron Young
Rochester, NY




On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:05 AM, rcnute  wrote:

> Two minutes--a new record!
>
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>
> On Jan 9, 8:57 pm, Anne Paulson  wrote:
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> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 8:55 PM, rcnute  wrote:
> > > Why I ended up with three rolls of the stuff I don't know.  It's
> > > Newbaum's.  Perfect for the bike for your lady friend, mother,
> > > daughter or
> >
> > > First one what emails me with request gets it!
> >
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[RBW] Re: Tires.... what to buy

[Aaron Young]

I'm using 700x28 TG Paselas and have no complaints.

Why the preference for wire bead though?  According to the Panaracer site
the folding kevlar Paselas (280g )weigh less than the wire bead non-TG
versions (320g for 28mm sizes).  The non-folding TG is listed as 340g.

If its not for weight then is the issue suppleness?   Does the TG interfere
with suppleness?  I thought the suppleness of the sidewall was what really
led to a great feeling tire.

-Aaron Young
Rochester, NY

On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Rene Sterental wrote:

> You're running the Big Apples with too much air pressure. I'm currently 258
> and based on the tire pressure calculator that was posted a while back based
> on Jan's optimal 15% tire deformation for optimal ride characteristics, I'm
> running my 50mm Schwalbes at 30 psi front and 60 psi rear. With your lighter
> weight you should probably run the about 5 psi less, but I can check when I
> get home.
>
> Search for the calculator that someone posted as an Excel spreadsheet
> sometime last year, I believe. Maybe a bit longer that that.
>
> René
>
> Sent from my iPhone 4
>
> On Jan 15, 2011, at 7:44 AM, Kelly Sleeper  wrote:
>
> I have JB's on my AHH and on the Bombadil I have Big Apples.   The Big
> Apples feel hard and pass the road bumps up to me..or feels that way.  My
> expectation was a much smoother cushy ride than the JB's but it feels like I
> get more of a Cadilac ride on the JB's.
>
> So is it just me.. hmm...
>
> I like fast feeling and comfort
>
> Note:  the Schwalbe 700x35's on both my wifes and my tour bikes have never
> had a flat ..even in goat head country .. was nice drinking coffee while
> friends patched tubes.  But they are heavy.
>
> I"m 225 lbs..
> JB's running 90 psi rear and 70ish front
> Big Apples running 50ish rear and 45ish front...
>
> Kelly
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[RBW] Re: Tires.... what to buy

[Aaron Young]

Thanks Gernot for the clarification.  I suppose I will have to try some
non-TG paselas and see if I notice a difference.

-Aaron Young
Rochester, NY



On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 11:17 PM, Earl Grey  wrote:

> Aaron,
>
> It's not just the suppleness of the sidewall, but the suppleness of
> the entire casing, the center of which is compromised by the tourguard
> strip. The whole tire has to deform to absorb shock, not just the
> sidewall.
>
> Gernot
>
> On Jan 15, 11:36 pm, Aaron Young <1ce...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I'm using 700x28 TG Paselas and have no complaints.
> >
> > Why the preference for wire bead though?  According to the Panaracer site
> > the folding kevlar Paselas (280g )weigh less than the wire bead non-TG
> > versions (320g for 28mm sizes).  The non-folding TG is listed as 340g.
> >
> > If its not for weight then is the issue suppleness?   Does the TG
> interfere
> > with suppleness?  I thought the suppleness of the sidewall was what
> really
> > led to a great feeling tire.
> >
> > -Aaron Young
> > Rochester, NY
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Rene Sterental  >wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > You're running the Big Apples with too much air pressure. I'm currently
> 258
> > > and based on the tire pressure calculator that was posted a while back
> based
> > > on Jan's optimal 15% tire deformation for optimal ride characteristics,
> I'm
> > > running my 50mm Schwalbes at 30 psi front and 60 psi rear. With your
> lighter
> > > weight you should probably run the about 5 psi less, but I can check
> when I
> > > get home.
> >
> > > Search for the calculator that someone posted as an Excel spreadsheet
> > > sometime last year, I believe. Maybe a bit longer that that.
> >
> > > René
> >
> > > Sent from my iPhone 4
> >
>  > > On Jan 15, 2011, at 7:44 AM, Kelly Sleeper 
> wrote:
> >
> > > I have JB's on my AHH and on the Bombadil I have Big Apples.   The Big
> > > Apples feel hard and pass the road bumps up to me..or feels that way.
>  My
> > > expectation was a much smoother cushy ride than the JB's but it feels
> like I
> > > get more of a Cadilac ride on the JB's.
> >
> > > So is it just me.. hmm...
> >
> > > I like fast feeling and comfort
> >
> > > Note:  the Schwalbe 700x35's on both my wifes and my tour bikes have
> never
> > > had a flat ..even in goat head country .. was nice drinking coffee
> while
> > > friends patched tubes.  But they are heavy.
> >
> > > I"m 225 lbs..
> > > JB's running 90 psi rear and 70ish front
> > > Big Apples running 50ish rear and 45ish front...
> >
> > > Kelly
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Re: [RBW] Re: Tektro CR720 w/Marks Rack Conflicting

[Aaron Young]

I couldn't get the Mark's Rack to work on the front of my bike with the
CR720 cantis either.  I ended up putting it on the rear and it fits just
fine (although it is a bit short compared to most rear racks).

Aaron Young
Rochester, NY




On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 7:31 PM, Ginz  wrote:

> Yeah, that sounds like one of those incompatibilities you only come
> across through personal experience.  You could try some lower-profile
> brakes or the Nitto M12 rack.
>
>
>
> On Aug 6, 4:49 pm, Garth  wrote:
> > When installing some CR720's today on the Bombadil, I found out they
> > conflict big time with a Marks front rack, mounted at the braze-ons
> > below the canti bosses.  This is not good. When installed, the brakes
> > cannot open to get the tire out, they hit the struts of the Nitto. Is
> > this a secret that I was not aware of?
> >
> > What to do?  I don't know.
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Re: [RBW] Wow! There's an Atlantis under there somewhre

[Aaron Young]

Wow!  Those are the smallest front panniers I've ever seen! :)


Aaron Young
Rochester, NY where the rain soaked me to the bone on my commute home.



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[RBW] Re: WTB: Saddlesack Large & Platrack

[Aaron Young]

Nice set up. I've been considering the large Saddlesack for a while now.

Do you know where your friend got that low-trail front fork?

-Aaron Young
Rochester, NY

On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 9:03 PM, Patrick in VT  wrote:

> On Aug 25, 6:48 pm, Rob Harrison  wrote:
>
> if i were setting up a porteur, I'd do the same thing.  my buddy is
> using that big 'ole bag on a VO porteur rack - it's a killer set up!
>
> pics here -
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/bthelewis/sets/72157623654556019/with/4699977936/
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[RBW] Re: Hunqa and SO update on Riv site!

[Aaron Young]

Personally I like the look of a straight second top tube more than the
diagonal.  Also, I agree with James V. that the original Breezer style
diagonal would be better (but a bit heavier if that even matters).

With the diaga-tube will Riv change the Hunqa-graphics so the second
crossbar on the "H" is diagonal, too????

Aaron Young
Rochester, NY




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> I kinda like that they're leaning towards sidepulls (Silvers I
> imagine) for the SO. I've grown to really like those brakes on my
> Hilsen, they're just a lot easier to deal with than cantis.
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Re: [RBW] Sam first look

[Aaron Young]

Congrats on your new bicycle and a great ride!  You said "first look" - any
photos?

Aaron Young
Rocheser, NY

On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 8:43 PM, jmac  wrote:

> I received my Sam about a week ago. This site and my friend Bruce
> (fullylugged) convinced me that this was the bike I should buy.
>
> My first impression of the Sam is “Wow”! The color and graphics are
> great. It really is a beautiful bike.  I was worried about the fit on
> the bike because of the big differences between sizes. The bike fits
> me as well as my custom titanium Seven. I have raised the bar height
> to 2cm above the saddle and have angled the bar about 5%. I am still
> playing with these adjustments.
>
> I took the bike out on its maiden voyage this past Saturday. I took an
> eighty mile tour through the country side, south of Montgomery. The
> temperature hit 96; it was just plain “HOT”.  The terrain was mostly
> flat with about a twelve mile stretch of rollers ranging from three to
> seven percent grade. The pavement ranged from smooth to rattle your
> teeth chip and seal asphalt.
>
> I was having trouble with the indexed shifting in a couple of the
> gears so I switched to friction shifting. I really found out I prefer
> it. I stayed mostly in the 48 and occasionally in the 36. I never had
> to use the 24, but I am anxious to try it. The bike road smooth as
> silk. Surprisingly, I did not lose a lot of speed as compared to my
> Seven.  The Brooks saddle is still a little stiff, but not too bad.
> The bikes front end was very steady, even with no hands riding. The
> bike turned with ease, by just applying slight pressure to the handle
> bars.
>
> I couldn’t be more pleased with the bike. Thanks again to the helpful
> and passionate Rivendell owners on this site. Bruce, you need to plan
> another destination ride.
>
> My build is as follows:
> 48 Orange frame
> Sugino xd2  48/36/24 crank
> 9 speed 11-32 cass
> Canti Tektro cr720 brakes
> Nitto noodle 44 bars
> Nitto technomic stem
> Viva dk blue cloth tape
> Dura Ace 9s bar end shifters
> Campy Triple f der
> Shimano xt rr long cage
> Brooks B17 special honey
> 650 B r36 Synergy wheels
> Pacenti Pari-Moto tires
> Nitto mini front rack
> Nitto r14 rear rack
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[RBW] What Pedal is This?

[Aaron Young]

I think its this pedal:

http://www.amazon.com/Sunlite-Cruz-Sport-Pedals-Silver/dp/B00363LPEI/ref=pd_sbs_sg_39

It looks just like the ones I bought for my winter commuter recently
(because they were the cheapest set they had at Bert's Bike/Fitness).  Lucky
for you, if you buy them they won't set you back much.

I think they are okay, but they don't feel nearly as nice as the MKS touring
pedal.  These pedals have less grip and the platform doesn't feel as flat.
 I would have returned them to Bert's if I hadn't installed them first.  The
upcharge for the MKS is more than worth it in my opinion.

-Aaron Young
Rochester, NY

On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 7:56 PM, Ray  wrote:

> I saw this great looking pedal on a Surly LHT locked to a bike rack in
> downtown SF.  I waited a bit, but the owner never came back. I took
> this shot with my iPhone, so it's not the best pict.  I am hoping one
> of you folks can ID this pedal and give me a manufacturer name.  I
> already checked VO, Nashbar, and Cambria sites, but nothing like
> this.  Here's the photo:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/8581...@n03/sets/72157624860028757/
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> thanks.
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[RBW] Re: What Pedal is This?

[Aaron Young]

That's funny!  I recently picked up some old-school Ratrap pedals at the
Goodwill for $3.  I made the same mistake - they are also 1/2"!  I better
start paying more attention I guess!

Aaron Young
Rochester, NY

On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 4:03 AM, RoadieRyan  wrote:

> Good call Jim I was thinking the same thing "can a 1/2 inch pedal work
> on a road bike?"  Aaron was in the right neighborhood and spot on with
> model  the 9/16 version appears to be here
>
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Sunlite-Cruz-Sport-Pedals-Silver/dp/B00363HUME/ref=sr_1_46?ie=UTF8&s=cycling&qid=1284883214&sr=1-46
>
> On Sep 18, 6:32 pm, CycloFiend  wrote:
> > I know it was just basically a photo reference, but just to spare anyone
> the
> > need for a needless return, note that link is to a 1/2" spindle thread
> (BMX)
> > rather than the road/mtb  standard 9/16"
> >
> > - J
> >
> > on 9/18/10 6:12 PM, Aaron Young at 1ce...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > I think its this pedal:
> >
> > http://www.amazon.com/Sunlite-Cruz-Sport-Pedals-Silver/dp/B00363LPEI/...
> > sbs_sg_39
> >
> > It looks just like the ones I bought for my winter commuter recently
> > (because they were the cheapest set they had at Bert's Bike/Fitness).
>  Lucky
> > for you, if you buy them they won't set you back much.
> >
> > I think they are okay, but they don't feel nearly as nice as the MKS
> touring
> > pedal.  These pedals have less grip and the platform doesn't feel as
> flat.
> >  I would have returned them to Bert's if I hadn't installed them first.
>  The
> > upcharge for the MKS is more than worth it in my opinion.
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[RBW] accidentally perfect - now what?

[Aaron Young]

Great post, Beth.  I just reread the BQ article (its actually the Spring
2010 issue) and what a great couple of bikes you have!  Congrats - really
makes me want to go for a ride.

Aaron Young
Rochester, NY

On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 2:30 PM, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:

> Photo, please!
>
> On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 9:32 AM, Beth H  wrote:
> > Enough of you are familiar with The Rivvy (my '99 LongLow) that I
> > don't need to go into the background (for those who aren't see
> > RivReader # 18 or the Summer 2010 Bicycle Quarterly).
> >
> > But here's the part of the history I haven't shared with folks.
> >
> > When I selected the LongLow in 1998, Rivendell was phasing out their
> > All-Rounder, and was testing the Atlantis. They were also offering the
> > Heron. I really, really liked the idea of a 26"-wheeled do-everything
> > bike, but I also wanted to have the flexibility of swapping in drops
> > or uprights. Based on the geometry of the time I had concerns that a
> > 26"-wheeled frame would not give me a short-enough top tube for that
> > sort of flexibility without sacrificing standover height. I also
> > wanted a bike that do it all -- commuting, touring and unencumbered
> > sport riding -- and the LongLow seemed like a better choice than the
> > last of the All-Rounders at the time.
> >
> > Along the way I've had ample opportunity to try all sorts of
> > configurations with The Rivvy, and while the uprights felt great, the
> > fact is that as I've gotten older I've favoered a fatter and fatter
> > tire -- something that no one was really planning for in 1998 for a
> > 700c-wheeled touring frame. The fattest tire The Rivvy can take with a
> > fender is a 700x32 and in the rear that is a tight fit.
> >
> > Enter the All-Rounder, which came to me through an act of unspeakable
> > amazingness in fall 2007. I spent three years running it with drops
> > and never being fully satisfied with it. This year, fed up with my
> > inability to run a fatter tire on The Rivvy and finally freeing myself
> > of my stubborn struggle with drop bars, I swapped the entire handlebar/
> > stem setup from the LongLow to the A-R, and voila!
> >
> > I now have The Bike I (Really) Always Wanted. It just took me awhile
> > to figure it out and get there.
> >
> > So now I have a Rivendell LongLow hanging on a hook in partial
> > assembly, and I will stare at it (rather guiltily) this fall and
> > wonder how to configure it next. Rather than pay a frame builder to
> > make it take a roomier tire (I might be able to squeeze a 35 in there
> > with fenders if I do that and I don't know if it's worth the cost to
> > add 3 more mm), I will just disassemble it, clean it really well, and
> > perhaps -- gasp! -- even repaint it.
> >
> > In the meantime, the person responsible for bringing the A-R my way
> > should be happy to know that I'm riding the crap out of it even more
> > than I was before. Thanks.
> > Beth
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[RBW] NonRiv Ride Maine style

[Aaron Young]

You have a great idea there - maybe we could all do a RBW-list ride, on the
same day, but wherever you are.  Or list members in close proximity to each
other could meet up, but it would be Ride Day or something.  Then think of
all the cool ride reports there could be!  Just a thought...

Congrats on your great ride.  It sure beats the
sitting-at-home-doing-nothing that I did yesterday.  I would include a
report of it, but it pretty much describes itself.

Aaron Young
Rochester, NY

On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 1:24 PM, cyclotourist  wrote:

> But what did you do to substitute for the garage sale? :-)
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 7:33 AM, fulf  wrote:
>
>> So I was feeling low-again there was a sale and ride at RBW HQ and I'm
>> 3000 miles away. Decided I'd do my own Riv ride so I took care of
>> errands, packed a pbj,chips and an apple and pedaled off on my
>> Atlantis for Mount Agamenticus. From my home in Kennebunk,Mt A is 24
>> miles. The mountain is only 692 feet but from the base it rises in
>> three stages -and they are steep. Last time I rode it I did some
>> walkin'. This time I stopped at the end of each stage and took a
>> breather-no walkin'. It was gorgeous at the top. Many of the trees
>> have begun to turn.  MT A is also a fabulous place to view hawk
>> migration. While eating I saw an osprey, many turkey vultures, an
>> American Kestrel and a Peregrine falcon.
>>
>> I was hugging the brake levers on the way down. Unfortunately the road
>> is twisty and I really couldn't let loose. Of course the Atlantis rode
>> beautifully,absorbing the rough roads. At home I enjoyed a cold brew,
>> Fryes Leap brewed by Sebago Brewing Co. It's the closest brew I've
>> found to SNs celebration Ale. All in all it was a fantastic day,
>> although I did miss the comradery of other Riv riders. Maybe next time
>> I'll make to HQ.
>>
>> Sorry ,I have no photos. Went to grab the camera and realized someone
>> else in the family was using it.  Bill
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[RBW] Re: NY/PA/NJ Rivendell Rally - Spring 2011

[Aaron Young]

Add on more from Rochester (work schedule permitting)!

-Aaron Young
Rochester, NY

On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 9:30 PM, Montclair BobbyB  wrote:

> OK, response so far has been excellent... we could have ourselves a
> decent crowd for this!!!  I'm pumped.  I also took a good look at the
> PineCreekRides.com site... and I think Wellsboro PA has EXCELLENT
> potential for our weekend Rally.  There are lots of hotels, inns and
> B&B's (which can suit a variety of tastes and budgets).  The town of
> Wellsboro has a quaint commercial district with plenty of stores,
> restaurants etc... and easy access to the Pine Creek Gorge (and
> surrounding area) with a really nice variety of back road rides...
> Moreover (as some of you have shared concerns about doing a 35-50-mile
> ride), these loops are conducive to shortening (with bailout options
> at different points for groups who would prefer to take a shorter
> loop).  And Wellsboro has restaurants and taverns, so they MUST HAVE
> BEER!
>
> I will contact a few of the hotels and inns in the area, as well as
> the owner of that website to get his opinion if by staying in
> Wellsboro, we can get what we need in terms of hotels and access to
> rides... Stay tuned.
>
> Peace,
> BB
>
>
>
> On Nov 14, 3:23 pm, Montclair BobbyB 
> wrote:
> > VERY KIND OF YOU, AJ... THANKS!
> >
> > I'm already checking into a few potential spots... One potential might
> > be the Pine Creek Gorge (aka the "Grand Canyon of PA"), located near
> > Wellsboro (in north-central PA)... it features a very long rail trail
> > through the scenic gorge, and is considered one of the top 10 in the
> > US Also there appear to be many nice back road options in the
> > area...http://www.pinecreekbikerides.com/(although I only briefly
> > looked at this)... It looks like it has great potential.
> >
> > Anyone from the region with knowledge of Pine Creek (or any other
> > possibilities), please let me know... THANKS!
> >
> > BB
> >
> > On Nov 14, 1:56 pm, AJ  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > Good thought BB, I have a couple of road worthy riv's if anyone wants
> > > to borrow one (60-61cm) for the rally.
> > > Cheers,
> > > AJ
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Re: [RBW] Cowboy shirts

[Aaron Young]

I was really happy to see them on the site as well.  I've been using a
similar cowboy shirt for outdoor physical activities (riding bikes,
skateboarding, hiking, rock climbing) for at least 10 years now.  It's a
nice light white-blue color and must be made of a cotton-poly blend, but its
so light and airy its perfect for riding.  I don't know how I feel about the
100% cotton though.  Or the $65 (yikes!).

Aaron Y
Rochester, NY

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> On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 6:52 PM, cyclotourist 
> wrote:
> > From the latest RBW news, these are great looking:
> > http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/cowboy-shirts/22-222
>
> I was at RWHQ today. Those shirts are good-looking in person. Even
> better looking, in my opinion, are the railroad shirts, with the tiny
> vertical stripes. Great fabric. A lot more guys look good in a
> railroad shirt than look good in a screen-printed synthetic bike
> jersey.
>
>
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[RBW] Mark's rack + Sackville Large/Med?

[Aaron Young]

Hey gang.

I have a Nitto Mark's rack set up on the rear of my bike and would like to
use a large saddle bag like the Sackville Large or Medium.  Does anyone have
experience using the Mark's rack with either of these bags?  Is the platform
of the Mark's rack long enough (mine measures ~7.5") to support a loaded
Large Sackville Saddlesack (13" deep according to Rivbike.com)?  The
Sackville Large description actually mentions compatibility with the Mark's
rack and I know the Sackville bags have a stiffener on the bottom, but 5.5"
overhang seems like too much, particularly when fully loaded.  Any
experiences?

Aaron "as yet saddlesack-less" Young
Rochester, NY

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Re: [RBW] Wider Mustache?

[Aaron Young]

What do you mean by "Mustache style"?  You can certainly turn the albatross
bars upside down so there is less (actually negative) rise, but you will
still have to use the mountain bike type brake levers on it, whereas the
Moustache bar uses road levers.

If you used a stem with longer reach maybe that would straighten your arms
out a bit just like wider bar would.  Maybe that could give you the feel of
a wider bar...?  I've never tried that - just brainstorming here.

Aaron Y.
Currently in Utah while en route to Vancouver, WA from Rochester, NY.

On Tuesday, July 3, 2012, rw1911 wrote:

> I like my Mustache bars, but sometimes wish they were a bit wider.
> Any options?  Can the Alba be setup Mustache style?
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[RBW] Interesting blog entry (and comments/replies) from Jan Heine's blog

[Aaron Young]

Yes, a great conversation in the comments.  I personally thought Jan's
suggestion of a 665b version of the Roadeo was an excellent idea.  What a
bike that would be!

Aaron Y
Vancouver, WA

On Sunday, August 5, 2012, PATRICK MOORE wrote:

> http://janheine.wordpress.com/2012/08/02/riding-fast-is-fun/
>
> I personally -- to quote one commentator -- would rather stab myself
> in the eye than ride 600 km, but this little essay has some good
> points about the joy of riding fast, but on intelligent bikes. Several
> RBW references in the correspondence, too.
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>
> Flannery O'Connor
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Re: [RBW] Half Mitts

[Aaron Young]

'Nother update:  if you have a thumbed-half mitt, and you want a thumbless,
you can easily tuck the thumb between the back of the hand and the mitt.
 Easy as pie, and its there when the temp. drops.

-Aaron "Thumb-Tuck-Maneuver" Young
The Dalles, OR


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> Years ago I owned a very nice pair of winter gloves that were designed as
> fingerless cycling gloves with long gauntlets with a flip-over mitten cover
> for the fingers. The thumb remained full-length-covered.
>
> A very sensible design, IMO, tho' it too suffered from the mitten defect
> of difficult operation of dt or other skinny shift levers.
>
> Does anyone still make these?
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 6:22 PM, Aaron Young <1ce...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Update:
>>
>> Went on a short ride in low 40's-degrees weathers, plus some winds, so
>> temps at the lowest in upper 30's perhaps.  I used the new half-mitts with
>> the thumb.  I was surprised at how bulky the thumb felt, and it was a bit
>> awkward to get the thumb out.  The half mitts are nice because you can
>> quickly remove your fingers, but the full thumb has to be pulled off
>> separately just like a regular glove.  Its a small thing, and in really
>> cold weather probably would be worth it, but on an only mildly cold ride, I
>> think I'll stick with the old style, thumbless half-mitts.
>>
>> I think I would prefer a half-thumb, instead of a full thumb cover,
>> though.  Then it would cover the tip of the thumb and the back (dorsal
>> side), but leave the palmar open - just like the rest of the mitt.
>>
>> -Aaron Young
>> The Dalles, OR
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Aaron Young <1ce...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I used a thumbless pair through winter, and with a light liner type
>>> glove (with a thumb) they were just fine for my short commute.
>>>
>>> My wife knitted me some custom wool gloves based on a design I suggested
>>> that complement the half mitts nicely.  They are fingerless and thumbless,
>>> but the thumb has a convertible cap that can fold down to cover the thumb
>>> from the cold when needed.  They are a little goofy, but worked really well
>>> for me.  The nice thing is everything is covered, but I could easily
>>> uncover the tips of all finger and even thumb if I needed.
>>>
>>> I recently bought a thumbed paid of half mitts, but haven't had the
>>> need to use them yet.  They seem a bit bulkier than the thumbless versions
>>> because of the thumbs of course, but also they are fuzzier on the inside
>>> than the older version - the material is different.  They will probably be
>>> better for colder temps with the extra fuzz in there.
>>>
>>> Aaron "air conditioned fingertips" Young
>>> The Dalles, OR
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, November 11, 2013, Edwin W wrote:
>>>
>>>> Half baked, or well done?
>>>> I got a pair <http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/ag4.htm>in my last
>>>> order, and they are working great for this fall transition weather. During
>>>> the day, I can go bare handed, but sometimes in the late afternoons or
>>>> evenings it gets chilly for bare hands. These half mitts are light, pack
>>>> easily anywhere and warm up your hands when it gets too chilly. I am
>>>> commuting in them now and we will see how cold it can be for them to stay
>>>> functional. When they are not doing the job, I might try a pair of light
>>>> gloves under them instead of just switching to heavier gloves. Layering,
>>>> all about the layering.
>>>>
>>>> I am so glad they added the thumbs.
>>>>
>>>> I wish they would put a reflective strip on the back for signalling,
>>>> etc... as cold weather often goes together with dark.
>>>>
>>>> Edwin
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Re: [RBW] Two Beautiful Months of Morning Coffee, Outside

[Aaron Young]

Chris,

What a bunch of great photos!  Thanks for sharing them.  I really need to
find a way to make it to some of these rides/drinks.

-Aaron "A bit too far to the East" Young
The Dalles, OR


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> I've been really quiet about all the sunrise coffee rides because they're
> pretty local and small, but I just realized I only started doing them for
> two months, so I thought I'd share a photoset from all of them:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/sets/72157638618679355/
>
> Cheers, be warm, Just Ride,
>
> cc
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[RBW] New bike siting: Cheviut/Cheviot/Chevrolet?

[Aaron Young]

In the Instagram comments Rivbike says it's a "gender neutral Mixte frame
for the masses" and more pics to come to the Blug soon.

Cool!

Aaron Young
The Dalles, OR

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> The glory of social media has uncovered it. What is it?
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[RBW] Gränsfors Bruk Factory Tour vid

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Hey Bunch,

I came across this on youtube last night and thought others might find it
interesting like I did.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E89nlVmPeeU

The forging process begins at about 2:30.

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[RBW] Gränsfors Bruk Factory Tour vid

[Aaron Young]

Yeah, I was kind of surprised by the power hammer.  It makes sense, of
course, but in my imagination I thought there would be some olde tyme forge
and a blacksmith type guy (blonde haired of course because its Sweden) with
a leather apron who would hammer a glowing hunk of ore into just the right
shape.  Show's you what I know...

Aaron "always learning something" Young
The Dalles, OR


On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 12:41 PM, john  wrote:

> Thanks for Posting. That's a really interesting video, and well done, to
> boot.
>
>
> On Saturday, January 4, 2014 7:54:56 AM UTC-8, AaronY wrote:
>>
>> Hey Bunch,
>>
>> I came across this on youtube last night and thought others might find it
>> interesting like I did.
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E89nlVmPeeU
>>
>> The forging process begins at about 2:30.
>>
>> Aaron Young
>> The Dalles, OR
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[RBW] Re: Tire Casing Quiz

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Making a tire with less rubber (i.e., a thinner casing) means there is less
room for error and tolerances need to be tighter.  This is probably part of
what necessitates the extra cost.  Also, I could imagine that making tires
to higher standards means there are fewer tires that meet those standards
which then get thrown out.  Another way cost is added to the process.

Aaron "just speculating" Young
The Dalles, OR


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>
> The only diff I can tell  is less rubber, as you can see the threads are
>> practically emerging from the rubber on the Hetre. But there must be
>> something else because the Hetres cost so much.
>>
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[RBW] Bike Camping. We are DOING IT WRONG

[Aaron Young]

Don't forget to pack your hardwood floor.  And one must always be sure to
arrive at camp with enough sunlight left to install it before setting up
the tent.

-Aaron Young
The Dalles, OR


On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 9:29 AM, Christopher Chen  wrote:

> Mike:
>
> I'll be there.
>
> cc
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Mike Williams 
> wrote:
>
>> Looks like the means to play cricket in the right foreground,  Im
>> definitely bringing that next time!  -Mike
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jan 15, 2014, at 9:21 AM, Christopher Chen  wrote:
>>
>> I can't compete.
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/11961422373/
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Re: [RBW] Whoh-a-tross

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Chris,

Those look great, and I love (like love love) that color of bar tape.  Just
curious why you went with Albatross instead of Bosco bars?

-Aaron Young
The Dalles, OR



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> I wondered whether I'd be able to use albatross bars on my 5-6 hour
> weekend rides.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/28889177@N06/12021993526/
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> Enthusiastically, yes.
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[RBW] Re: Looking for my first Rivendell

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Mike,

Maybe you've ruled this out already, but why not an Atlantis?  In my mind,
it seems to split the difference between the Sam H. and the Hunqa P.

Aaron "Middle Man" Young
The Dalles, OR


On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 8:13 AM, RJM  wrote:

>
>
> The Sam is a good bike that can be set up a ton of ways. Mine is set up
>> with noodles and has v brakes, bar end shifters, 650 wheels with pari moto
>> tires. I really rides fine for a road bike, descends well, all day comfort.
>> I have thought recently about switching the bike over to albatross and
>> putting some fatty rumpkin tires on. Making it more of a roadster than a
>> road bike...if that makes any sense. Anyway, the Sam is really versatile in
>> that regard. I rode it for a couple of years with our bike club and was
>> able to hang with the group that averaged 19-20mph. I have done a few short
>> camping trips with my Sam and it has performed well, but I did wish I had a
>> little wider tires on a singletrack ride I did last year.
>>
>
> I prefer the parallel top tubes on the Sam over the Hunq's diagnatubes
> just for aesthetic reasons.
>
> I prefer the headtube badge of the Hunq to the Sam's.
>
>
> I think, in the long run, if you do any kind of dirt riding and taking
> into account your desire to tote stuff camping, the Hunq may be the better
> bike for you. I haven't ridden one, but people who have seem to love them.
> I don't think the bike will be all that sluggish and you will have the
> opportunity to slap wider tires onto the bike. I don't think the bike will
> be a bear to ride unloaded at all.  Good luck.
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Re: [RBW] Paul brakes, redux - Motolite clearance?

[Aaron Young]

Was just reading on the Shimanos.  Looks like the recent versions require
long pull levers. Can anyone confirm this from experience?  What I would
like to hear is that the brakes will work with regular road levers without
any extra hardware.

Thanks,
Aaron Young
The Dalles, OR

On Monday, August 11, 2014, Shoji Takahashi 
wrote:

> Hi Jay,
> Perhaps you have too much mechanical advantage? Are your brake levers
> bottoming out on the handlebars? If so, you might want to try a long
> straddle cable.
>
> Deacon Patrick runs a headtube-length straddle cable on his Quickbeam.
> (With what looks like CR720, same style as Neo Retros.)
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/14506250495/
>
> I've run CR720s and Shimano CX70s (narrow) on my Hunqapillar. I run the
> CX70s with a low straddle cable, and lots of stopping power. (Haven't
> switched to Koolstop pads, either. The Shimano OEM pads are surprisingly
> good.)
>
> Good luck,
> shoji
>
>
>
> On Sunday, August 10, 2014 9:11:53 PM UTC-4, Jay Lonner wrote:
>>
>> I have Neo-Retros on my Hunq, and after much fiddling and consulting of
>> Sheldon Brown's canti articles I have concluded that I can't get the
>> straddle cable low enough to overcome the brakes' inherent low mechanical
>> advantage. I live on top of a steep hill, in a wet climate, so this
>> situation will not stand, man.
>>
>> Now that I'm all educated about cantilever theory and practice, I'm
>> thinking of ditching them entirely and switching to linear pull brakes,
>> specifically Motolites. My concern is fender clearance. I'm running Big Ben
>> 50s and SKS fenders. Does anyone have experience running a similar setup,
>> and if so how is it working out? I know that Tektro makes a linear pull
>> brake with extra-long arms for more clearance, but I'd prefer to go with
>> Motolites because of a) sex appeal, and b) made in USA, etc.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jay Lonner
>> Bellingham, WA
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Re: [RBW] Paul brakes, redux - Motolite clearance?

[Aaron Young]

Shoji,

I saw "long pull" under the Product Description section of this Amazon
page:

http://www.amazon.com/Shimano-BR-CX70-Cyclocross-Cantilever-Brake/dp/B0063R26VK/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1407852028&sr=8-2&keywords=Shimano+cx70+brake

Maybe it's a typo, or maybe I am confused about what long pull means or I'm
looking at the wrong brake or...

Good to hear the ones Riv sells work with normal levers though.

-Aaron Young
The Dalles, OR


On Monday, August 11, 2014, Shoji Takahashi 
wrote:

> Which Shimano brakes? The CX70s (cantilevers, which Riv sells) use regular
> levers. I have them on my Hunqapillar, and they are terrific.
>
>
> On Monday, August 11, 2014 10:15:29 AM UTC-4, AaronY wrote:
>>
>> Was just reading on the Shimanos.  Looks like the recent versions require
>> long pull levers. Can anyone confirm this from experience?  What I would
>> like to hear is that the brakes will work with regular road levers without
>> any extra hardware.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Aaron Young
>> The Dalles, OR
>>
>> On Monday, August 11, 2014, Shoji Takahashi  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Jay,
>>> Perhaps you have too much mechanical advantage? Are your brake levers
>>> bottoming out on the handlebars? If so, you might want to try a long
>>> straddle cable.
>>>
>>> Deacon Patrick runs a headtube-length straddle cable on his Quickbeam.
>>> (With what looks like CR720, same style as Neo Retros.)
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/14506250495/
>>>
>>> I've run CR720s and Shimano CX70s (narrow) on my Hunqapillar. I run the
>>> CX70s with a low straddle cable, and lots of stopping power. (Haven't
>>> switched to Koolstop pads, either. The Shimano OEM pads are surprisingly
>>> good.)
>>>
>>> Good luck,
>>> shoji
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, August 10, 2014 9:11:53 PM UTC-4, Jay Lonner wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I have Neo-Retros on my Hunq, and after much fiddling and consulting of
>>>> Sheldon Brown's canti articles I have concluded that I can't get the
>>>> straddle cable low enough to overcome the brakes' inherent low mechanical
>>>> advantage. I live on top of a steep hill, in a wet climate, so this
>>>> situation will not stand, man.
>>>>
>>>> Now that I'm all educated about cantilever theory and practice, I'm
>>>> thinking of ditching them entirely and switching to linear pull brakes,
>>>> specifically Motolites. My concern is fender clearance. I'm running Big Ben
>>>> 50s and SKS fenders. Does anyone have experience running a similar setup,
>>>> and if so how is it working out? I know that Tektro makes a linear pull
>>>> brake with extra-long arms for more clearance, but I'd prefer to go with
>>>> Motolites because of a) sex appeal, and b) made in USA, etc.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Jay Lonner
>>>> Bellingham, WA
>>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivish single speed

[Aaron Young]

Another option is to put a brass bell right in the middle of the stem.
 That visually breaks it up a bit.  My wife's bike has a similar issue and
the bell helped in my opinion.

My very first steel bike (in fact the first bike I ever bought myself) was
an all black Centurion Accordo.  It was a great bike and sometimes I wish I
still had it. I sold it after finding some vintage Trek frames which I
still have and ride.  Your Accordo is much prettier than the one I had
though.

Great bike; happy riding!

Aaron Young
The Dalles, OR






On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 7:30 AM, cyclotourist 
wrote:

> Hey, whatever keeps you on a bike, right!
> That said, a Dirt Drop stem might get you the same position while not
> *looking* so extremely extended.
> Happy miles.
>
> Cheers,
> David
>
> "it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride." - Seth Vidal
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 7:22 AM, Montclair BobbyB <
> montclairbob...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> WAY COOL, Mike!!
>>
>>
>> On Friday, August 22, 2014 3:12:33 PM UTC-4, Mike K. wrote:
>>>
>>> So the recent picture on the Blug of the stylish older gentleman riding
>>> his bike made me realize my bike isn't as odd looking as I thought it was.
>>> Everyone comments on how high the stem is. Truth be told, I probably need a
>>> 59 or 60cm bike, rather than the 57's I ride right now, but I make it work.
>>> Here she is - a mid 80's Centurion Accordo RS. I had it all Dura Ace'd out
>>> with 7400's, but I just couldn't get into it. So I sold all the DA and got
>>> a Craigslist set of wheels for SS/Fixed using White Industries Dos
>>> freewheel and an 18t Surly fixed cog.
>>>
>>> Crankset is a Sugino XD-2 I bought off the list here with a 48t ring and
>>> a bash guard. It certainly does the trick.
>>>
>>> My favorite part is the rear rack. Luckily the framset isn't high end
>>> enough to be completely without mounts on the dropouts, but I did need
>>> P-clamps for attaching the rack to the seatstays. The Nelson bag sits on it
>>> nicely and I still have room for some smallish panniers if I needed a
>>> little more luggage on there.
>>>
>>> The Technomic makes it upright and comfy. Couldn't really ask for more.
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Shellac an Opinel?

[Aaron Young]

Another option for the wood handle is to coat it in pine tar, like Riv does
for the hatchet and axe handles.  It gives the handle more grip than the
more slippery coating of shellac.

Aaron Young
The Dalles, OR


On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 6:18 AM, Goshen Peter 
wrote:

> I like the idea of soaking and baking. I'm just thinking with my Shrek
> like hands and shellac I would jam up the mechanism with shellac. Will soak
> and bake in extra toaster oven so my wife doesn't wonder I "ruining"  the
> oven, haha. Love the list help, thanks yall.
>  On Aug 27, 2014 1:55 AM, "Joe Bunik"  wrote:
>
>> 250° was a guesstimate, but a quick gahoogle shows lots of ideas out
>> there for opinel mods e.g.:
>>
>> http://bushcraftusa.com/forum/showthread.php/57733-Opinel-Owners-Do-you-have-a-trick
>>
>> =- Joe Bunik
>> Walnut Creek, CA
>>
>> On 8/26/14, Johan Larsson  wrote:
>> > Brings back memories from when I was about 12-13 yo and made sides out
>> of
>> > beautiful laburnum wood <http://goo.gl/KND2x0> <http://gog.is/umbrella
>> >for
>> > my Swiss army knife. I worked on it for many hours, polishing and
>> applying
>> > several layers of shellac, only to loose it in the ski slope the first
>> time
>> >
>> > I had it with me, a few days afterwards. :(
>> >
>> > Shellac works well though, I have used it on several wooden handles on
>> my
>> > tools, like files and screwdrivers, but I found that I prefer the
>> slightly
>> > grippier texture of a wax on such things. Shellac is clearly better for
>> > protecting the wood and keeping it look good, the waxed handles have
>> gotten
>> >
>> > quite dirty from black oily hands over time and are impossible to clean,
>> > less that you sand them down.
>> >
>> > Johan Larsson,
>> > Sweden
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tuesday, August 26, 2014 5:50:15 AM UTC+2, Peter M wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Got the Opinel kiddo for the kiddo but looking at it was thinking of
>> >> hitting it with shellac to give it a little more water protection.
>> Sand it
>> >>
>> >> and shellac? Just lay on a thin layer of shellac? use poly instead?
>> Thanks
>> >>
>> >> all. Oh and if anyone else is becoming a hoarder of bandannas from the
>> >> rotating colors at RBW you aren't alone.  Thanks!
>> >>
>> > <http://www.pinterest.com/pin/create/extension/>
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Re: [RBW] Craigslist sighting: FS 56 Atlantis in St. Paul MN

[Aaron Young]

Thanks for posting this.  I recently had an Atlantis sold out frm under me
(I will be charitable and attribute it to an
electronic miscommunication).  In any case, I'm going for this one. Sent an
email to the seller. Would need to be shipped, but will let you know.

-Aaron Young
The Dalles, OR

On Wednesday, September 10, 2014, cyclotour...@gmail.com <
cyclotour...@gmail.com> wrote:

> That looks like a real solid build and a great price. But yeah, two sizes
> too small!
>
>
> On Wednesday, September 10, 2014 9:33:07 AM UTC-7, Tim Gavin wrote:
>>
>> *Not mine, no relation to the seller*
>>
>> http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/dak/bik/4658352875.html
>>
>> I've been tempted by this all morning, but it's two sizes too small for
>> me and two sizes too big for my girlfriend.  So, I'll share it with the
>> list.
>>
>> An early production (Toyo), 56 cm Rivendell Atlantis.  It looks like it
>> lacks the mid-fork braze-ons of more recent Atlantii.  Complete build with
>> Brooks, Nitto, XT, etc., for $1350!  Somebody will get a great deal!
>>
>> Buy it, and bring it to the MN country bike rally at the end of the month!
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Tim
>>
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Re: [RBW] Craigslist sighting: FS 56 Atlantis in St. Paul MN

[Aaron Young]

Thanks for the idea, Tim. I'll keep that in mind, but haven't heard back
from the seller yet so will just hold onto it.

Thanks,
Aaron

On Wednesday, September 10, 2014, Tim Gavin 
wrote:

> Jim Thill at Hiawatha Cyclery in Minneapolis used to sell Rivs.  I offer
> him up as a local contact to ship from.
>
> On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 2:13 PM, Aaron Young <1ce...@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> Thanks for posting this.  I recently had an Atlantis sold out frm under
>> me (I will be charitable and attribute it to an
>> electronic miscommunication).  In any case, I'm going for this one. Sent an
>> email to the seller. Would need to be shipped, but will let you know.
>>
>> -Aaron Young
>> The Dalles, OR
>>
>> On Wednesday, September 10, 2014, cyclotour...@gmail.com
>>  <
>> cyclotour...@gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> That looks like a real solid build and a great price. But yeah, two
>>> sizes too small!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, September 10, 2014 9:33:07 AM UTC-7, Tim Gavin wrote:
>>>>
>>>> *Not mine, no relation to the seller*
>>>>
>>>> http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/dak/bik/4658352875.html
>>>>
>>>> I've been tempted by this all morning, but it's two sizes too small for
>>>> me and two sizes too big for my girlfriend.  So, I'll share it with the
>>>> list.
>>>>
>>>> An early production (Toyo), 56 cm Rivendell Atlantis.  It looks like it
>>>> lacks the mid-fork braze-ons of more recent Atlantii.  Complete build with
>>>> Brooks, Nitto, XT, etc., for $1350!  Somebody will get a great deal!
>>>>
>>>> Buy it, and bring it to the MN country bike rally at the end of the
>>>> month!
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Tim
>>>>
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Re: [RBW] Craigslist sighting: FS 56 Atlantis in St. Paul MN

[Aaron Young]

Thanks, Hugh.

Good news; I've been in contact with the seller and it looks like this will
probably work out.  If it does I'll have to put some Glamour Shots on
Flickr.

-Aaron


On Friday, September 12, 2014, hsmitham  wrote:

> Aaron,
>
> As David said that's a great looking build and a more than fair price even
> with shipping across the country. I hope you get this one.
>
> ~Hugh
>
> On Wednesday, September 10, 2014 2:38:12 PM UTC-7, AaronY wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for the idea, Tim. I'll keep that in mind, but haven't heard back
>> from the seller yet so will just hold onto it.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Aaron
>>
>> On Wednesday, September 10, 2014, Tim Gavin 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Jim Thill at Hiawatha Cyclery in Minneapolis used to sell Rivs.  I offer
>>> him up as a local contact to ship from.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 2:13 PM, Aaron Young <1ce...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks for posting this.  I recently had an Atlantis sold out frm under
>>>> me (I will be charitable and attribute it to an
>>>> electronic miscommunication).  In any case, I'm going for this one.
>>>> Sent an email to the seller. Would need to be shipped, but will let you
>>>> know.
>>>>
>>>> -Aaron Young
>>>> The Dalles, OR
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, September 10, 2014, cyclotour...@gmail.com <
>>>> cyclotour...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> That looks like a real solid build and a great price. But yeah, two
>>>>> sizes too small!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, September 10, 2014 9:33:07 AM UTC-7, Tim Gavin wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Not mine, no relation to the seller*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/dak/bik/4658352875.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've been tempted by this all morning, but it's two sizes too small
>>>>>> for me and two sizes too big for my girlfriend.  So, I'll share it with 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> An early production (Toyo), 56 cm Rivendell Atlantis.  It looks like
>>>>>> it lacks the mid-fork braze-ons of more recent Atlantii.  Complete build
>>>>>> with Brooks, Nitto, XT, etc., for $1350!  Somebody will get a great deal!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Buy it, and bring it to the MN country bike rally at the end of the
>>>>>> month!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>
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[RBW] New Riv Dynohubs?

[Aaron Young]

New Dynohub hubs are mentioned in the recent email from Riv.   Anyone know
anything about (any of) these?

Aaron Young,
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[RBW] Re: New Riv Dynohubs?

[Aaron Young]

Very cool. Thanks. Off to research SP now.

Thanks,
Aaron

On Wednesday, September 17, 2014, Dave  wrote:

> their instagram feed <http://instagram.com/rivbike> shows them as being
> from Shutter Precision
>
> On Wednesday, September 17, 2014 10:44:43 AM UTC-7, AaronY wrote:
>>
>> New Dynohub hubs are mentioned in the recent email from Riv.   Anyone
>> know anything about (any of) these?
>>
>> Aaron Young,
>> The Dalles, OR
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Re: [RBW] A different kind of S24O

[Aaron Young]

Deacon,

Glad to hear you are doing well.  You are right; appendicitis can just
happen regardless of dietary habits.  Once a surgeon suspects appendicitis
then the standard of care is surgical removal.  In other parts of the world
where health care isn't as accessible as it is in the US, sometimes they
might treat appendicitis with antibiotics and hope it doesn't rupture, and
when it does that they can treat it and hope the patient doesn't become
septic or die.

Did they do an open procedure or use the scopes and cameras?  Hopefully,
you got the laparoscopic procedure as that generally hastens healing and is
supposedly less painful.

In any case, wishing you well with recovery.

Aaron Young
The Dalles, OR

On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Goshen Peter 
wrote:

> Deacon, thanks for asking. She is almost 100%. Momhood doesn't wait for
> full recovery so after about 6 days she was back to work and her normal
> routine. But as she already has a bad back doesn't do heavy lifting of any
> kind anyway.
> On Sep 21, 2014 3:51 PM, "Deacon Patrick"  wrote:
>
>> @ Peter -- I meant to ask how your wife is doing? Everyone seems to
>> experience appendicitis differently, so I'm curious how the recovery goes.
>>
>> @ Jon -- Thanks! Aye, I've a whole tool box of wrenches life has tossed
>> my way. Grin. Any insight as to why they're all Imperial rather than
>> metric? Sardonic grin.
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
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Re: [RBW] A different kind of S24O

[Aaron Young]

We use CO2 for inflating the abdomen (technical term is insufflation).
Nitrogen (essentially air) is a bad idea because whichever gas used gets
absorbed through the tissues into the bloodstream.  Nitrogen could
theoretically lead to the bends. CO2 is easily absorbed and then delivered
via the blood to the lungs for removal from the body in the usual way.

The shoulder pain after laparoscopic surgery is usually referred pain from
an irritated diaphragm.  The insufflation and mechanical ventilation can
irritate it.

Finally we are talking about something I know about. :)

Aaron Young
The Dalles, OR

On Sunday, September 21, 2014, cyclotourist  wrote:

> Been there, done that. Worst part was the pain up in my shoulders as I
> guess they pump in CO2 or nitrogen or some gas to puff up the abdominal
> cavity. It ends up migrating up, and then there's a lot of pain (at least
> for me) as it is absorbed and dissipated.
> That and a serious bad Vicodin experience. Whoa.
> Take it easy, the docs usually give recommendations for a reason! :-)
>
> Cheers,
> David
>
> "it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride." - Seth Vidal
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 4:39 PM, Patrick Moore  > wrote:
>
>> Well, at least you seem to have good health insurance. I hope you get
>> fully well and back on the bike (ss, for mountains of course) soon.
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 9:08 AM, Deacon Patrick > > wrote:
>>
>>> A hospital S24O. In for tests, rushed to surgery, appendix removed as it
>>> is rupturing (the surgeon made it sound like a poorly written drama where
>>> the timing of days and hours all culminates to a matter of seconds.
>>> Apparently that is how life sometimes is. Sardonic grin.), overnight (never
>>> recommended, and a torturous gauntlet for someone with a bludgeoned brain,
>>> but the staff was wonderful and did all they possibly could to accommodate
>>> me — a wonderful surprise).
>>>
>>> So now I wait for the abdominal wall to heal. I’m told no strenuous
>>> activity for 6 weeks. I managed a walk of a quarter mile this morning
>>> (first full day home) after a wonderful night rain. Ahh, the smells of the
>>> mountains after a rain in autumn! Hoping to ride the flat-ish road to a
>>> flatfish trail and do some non-strenuious walking on the “lowlander” trail
>>> in a few days. I’m looking forward to further accessing the healing ways of
>>> the bicycle and the near bare foot! Grin.
>>>
>>> With abandon,
>>> Patrick
>>>
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Re: [RBW] A different kind of S24O

[Aaron Young]

Patrick,

Yes, I do this for a living.  Some people joke that we anesthesiologists
pass gas for a living, but I prefer to say I keep people safe and
comfortable while they nap instead.  Had a nicer ring to it.

It's interesting to hear about your insurance program. I'm only recently
out of residency training so now I have to worry about which insurance
folks have and all the billing issues. Billing and insurance are by far the
things I like least about practicing medicine, and many physicians will
tell you the exact same thing.

Finally, thank you for saying thanks.   Most often an anesthesiologist's
job is a thankless one because we transfer our patients to recovery and
then must leave before the patient is awake enough to remember to say
thanks.  Happily most anesthesiologists have the type of personality that
doesn't need the spotlight all the time.  I am perfectly happy to sit at
the head of the OR table quietly and attentively caring for my patients
without fanfare and whatnot. So... Thank you!

Do you have any bike (or other) projects you have been meaning to get
around to?  Maybe now's your chance, right? :)

-Aaron



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> care and compassion and human dignity you give people at times when they
> can't do much and are so vulnerable. Yours a beautiful calling and an
> awesome responsibility. I tip my Tilley to you my friend!
>
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Re: [RBW] About to start experimenting with centerpulls

[Aaron Young]

Hi Bill,

Just doing some research reading about brakes and came across your update.

You mention that the DC 610's work, even work well.  Then you say the
1970's restoration with Dia Compes are really powerful.  What do you think
is the difference here?  I would guess that both Dia Compe brake sets are
pretty similar and should have a similar feel, but the description sounds
like they are quite different.  Is it the levers that are different?  Just
the way they are set up?  I'm just curious what your thoughts are on this.

Thanks,

Aaron Young
The Dalles, OR

On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> Thanks for that reply Michael.  As you can see, though, I made that switch
> almost a year ago.  The post of mine you replied to is dated 10/9/2013.  :-)
>
> I guess coming in on a year does allow me to give an update.  The
> backstory is that this is my road bike.  A Black Mountain Cycles, which is
> functionally similar to a Roadeo.  It takes 700c wheels 130mm rear spacing
> and Tektro 539 brakes.  I had it built with 539s and got the itch to try
> centerpulls.  Motivators included:
>
> 1.  Jan Heine goes on and on how centerpulls are the best
> 2.  It looked like I could get a tiny bit more clearance for 35 or even
> 38mm tires without fenders, and could run Jack Browns with fenders more
> easily
> 3.  I wanted to run a front rack for a handlebar bag with no P-clamps
>
> So I bought the high end Dia Compe 610s.  LINK
> <http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/components/brakes/calipers/dia-compe-610-centerpull-brake.html>.
> I also bought the really cute front rack that you can get.  LINK2
> <http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/gran-compe-ene-mini-rack.html>.
> I splurged and bought Paul Funky Monkey hangers for front and back.
>
> I'd give the experiment a "B" grade.  The brakes work.  They even work
> well.  The initial setup was a little bit goofy.  They came with standard
> road cartridge brakepads, and the geometry of the system expects a lot
> wider rim than the Open Pros I was using.  The initial setup looked
> horrible for that reason, like everything was folded in on itself.  I
> couldn't stand the look, so I switched out to the metal holders you get
> with CR720 cantilevers.  Those allow you to run huge spacers on the inboard
> side to square up the arms relative to my skinny rims.  That looked a lot
> better and functioned a lot better.  That was my only significant setup
> issue.  I did completely disassemble both brake calipers and lube them up.
> They were bone dry everywhere.
>
> I did seem to get some more clearance.  I have run the bike with true 35mm
> Paselas.
>
> The tiny little rack is quite wimpy.  Supporting my handlebar bag (with a
> Berthoud Decaleur) the rack started to noticeably sag after some bumpy
> trail riding.  The tab on the back is flimsy and bent.  I gave the rack a
> lift with one hand and it bent back.  It's wimpy.  I don't really use the
> rack at all anymore, but it is still installed.  I usually go without a
> handlebar bag, but sometimes run my BOXY
> <https://www.rivbike.com/product-p/bavbb.htm> bag, and might go all the
> way back to my F15 setup.
>
> In the meanwhile, I also did a restoration on a 1970s bike with Dia Compe
> centerpulls, and those brakes blow me away with how powerful they are.  So,
> I like the centerpull idea.
>
>
> On Monday, September 1, 2014 2:44:30 PM UTC-7, Michael Hechmer wrote:
>>
>> Bill,  a lot depends on what size tires you are using.  I converted my
>> Ram from Ultegra side pulls to Paul's Racer Ms and was very happy with the
>> outcome.  Setup and maintenance is a similar amount of effort, Paul's get a
>> slight nod for power and modulation, but a big plus for fender clearance.
>> I have studded Racers on the Tandem.  They work well and seem to require
>> little attention, but they are limited to about a 38 mm tire, unless it is
>> deflated.  And they have only 55 mm of internal space specced for a fender,
>> although I have gotten them to work with 60 mm VO fenders.
>>
>> You'll get lots of subjective feedback but Paul's CPs have beefier arms
>> which have to be more rigid than a side pull and the brakes will last for
>> ever.  Paul sells pivots and springs independently so it is easy to rebuild
>> a brake.
>>
>> My favorite brake, hands down, is Paul's Neo Retros.  They excel in every
>> way.  About the only negative I can think of is that like all cantis they
>> get dirty.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 10:12:00 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
>>> *THAT* was exactly what I was looking

[RBW] Wide mouth Canti's

[Aaron Young]

Hey Bunch,

I'm looking for some new Canti's and specifically want a set that will open
nice and wide to avoid having to deflate large tires when putting the wheel
in and out.  Riv sells the Shimano CX-70 that do this well apparently.  Are
there other suggestions though as those are $120 per pair.

Also, what's the deal with the CX-70s?  Is it just the pads that are
installed are short enough to miss most fork blades?  If so, what problems
might crop up if shorter pads are installed on other types of cantis?

Thanks,

Aaron Young
the Dalles, OR

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Re: [RBW] About to start experimenting with centerpulls

[Aaron Young]

So a particular brake may work well on a certain bike, but put the same
brake on another frame and you may get different results.  Got it.

Thanks,
Aaron

On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 8:51 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> Aaron, I'd just defer back to Brian's post.  It's a system.  Everything
> matters.  Rims brakepads levers cables housing.  Especially the placement
> of the bridges.  Everything.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Wide mouth Canti's

[Aaron Young]

Thanks.  I have a few pairs of cantis in my parts box.  I'll try swapping
in different pads and see if I can find something that works.  If not, I
guess I'll go for the Shimano's.  Or perhaps the Paul Touring Cantis as
those are the same price and MUSA.

Thanks,
Aaron Young
The Dalles, OR

On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 5:03 AM, Garth  wrote:

> The CX-70 and the late model Tektro CR720 (2012 or so and newer) use
> Shimano Road pads, that's why they clear the stays .
>
> If you use canti brakes that have the smooth post type of pads, I know
> that Kool Stops can be trimmed at the end so that they also clear the stays
> .
>
> Pads by no means need to be the longer length  , standard Road size pads
> work just as well if not better.
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Re: [RBW] Should it stay or should it go?

[Aaron Young]

Hi Mike,

I don't know if I can help in making your decision, but I DO have a couple
thoughts.

After writing this I figured a summary might be helpful. :) Here's the
short version: 1. Ride the snot out of that Dave Scott regardless if the
tube is bent or not (in rhyme even!). 2. Skip the cross check and
save, save, save for a Sam H (no rhyme).

First, a dented top tube isn't necessarily an end of life issue for a good
steel bike.  I still ride (and consider an all-time favorite type bike) a
1985 Trek 620 that was in an accident before I bought it. Both the down and
top tubes are bent downward from the impact of the front wheel hitting
something (a dog was the story I was told).  I didn't notice the dents
before buying it and was dismayed to say the least when I finally noticed
the bent tubes while cleaning it up at home.  Since the bike was bent I
felt fine riding it year round including through four upstate NY winters
with salty roads.  If it weren't bent I would likely have babied it and not
ridden it as much.  So, just ride that Dave Scott if you like the way it
fits and rolls.  Don't worry about the dent.  Put a top tube protector over
it so you forget about it.  But inspect it only occasionally to make sure
it's not getting worse or leading to tube fatigue and failure.

As for the Cross Check vs Sam H dilemma, is it possible to hold off on that
new bike purchase while you save enough to get a Sam?  The Cross check is a
great bike, but it's a different bike than a Sam in a lot of ways.  I
bought my Sam used off this list for a very reasonable price.  Maybe wait
for one to pop up on the list?  In any case, Be patient and save for what
you really want.  You will be happier in the long term.

Just my opinions at no charge. Of course they are worth just about what you
paid for them.  :)

Good luck,
Aaron Young
The Dalles, OR

On Thursday, October 2, 2014, Mike K.  wrote:

> Hi gang,
> Well, I have some decision-making to do involving current bike
> arrangement. I have two bikes, but need to get rid of one to make room for
> a new one. I am getting a Surly Cross Check (would spring for a Sam, but
> unfortunately, can't afford it, now matter how I slice the pie).
>
> My current bikes are both Centurions. One is an Accordo RS set up as a
> single speed, Tange Infinity tubing. The other is a Dave Scott Master,
> 14-speed with Shimano 600 group and Champion 1 tubing.
>
> I have been thinking about just keeping the Dave Scott as is for group
> riding. I have a Brooks on it and could get a small saddle bag for tools, a
> small jacket, patch kit, etc. BUT, the top tube has a small dent in it. I
> am probably like the 4th or 5th owner, if not further down the line. If it
> was a "perfect" frame I probably wouldn't even consider discontinuing it in
> my line up.
>
> The other option is to put the Shimano 600 group on the Accordo and use
> that as my roadie, then sell all the single speed parts off of it to help
> buy the Surly and a few parts I still need. Only problem with that is I
> would have the other frame to sell, and I doubt it would sell as a
> standalone frame/fork with a dented top tube. Otherwise, that Dave Scott is
> responsive and really fun to ride. I had the Accordo set up as a road bike
> and it just didn't have the zip of it's big brother. The Accordo is a bit
> better looking, though, too. That sweet red paint job with white head tube
> and seat tube. The Dave Scott is a white with the funny lightning-storm
> graphics on the fork.
>
> I like the Accordo a lot, and it has rear braze on for a rack, as well as
> a spot for a frame pump (Zefal #4 on the way!), but those would likely go
> on the Cross Check anyway.
>
> I guess in the end, either one would leave me with a road bike with the
> parts I already have. I'm just sort of looking for a few more factors to
> consider to help me make the decision.
>
> Thanks, all.
>
> - Mike in Austin
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Re: [RBW] Should it stay or should it go?

[Aaron Young]

Hmm, waiting for Clem Smith, Jr to show up is a great idea.  What's the
time frame on that though? Anyone know?

That's interesting to hear about the Panasonic-Centurion connection.  I
guess the Panasonic factories must have made bikes for quite a few brands.
I have a friend that has a mid 80's Scwhinn Traveler that was apparently
made by Panasonic, too.  She calls it a "Schwinasonic".  Or maybe it's
Schwinnasonic?  In any case, it too is a great bike just like that Dave
Scott.

Btw, the very first bike I purchased when I began to be more serious about
riding was a Centurion Accordo.  Black paint and cool/dorky 80's graphics.
Centurions are great!

Aaron Young
The Dalles, OR

On Thursday, October 2, 2014, hsmitham  wrote:

> Mike,
>
> Aaron gives some great advice. The only thing I'd add is perhaps wait to
> see what Grant and Company come up with in regards to this new "Clem Smith
> Jr" complete bike.
>
> Lastly, this is easier said then done but what the heck...save, save, save
> for that dream bike. If you squirrel away a bit every pay check you'll be
> there in no time! Besides it sounds like you have a sweet bike to ride
> right now. Just my .02.
>
> ~Hugh
>
> On Thursday, October 2, 2014 9:56:45 AM UTC-7, Mike K. wrote:
>>
>> Hi gang,
>> Well, I have some decision-making to do involving current bike
>> arrangement. I have two bikes, but need to get rid of one to make room for
>> a new one. I am getting a Surly Cross Check (would spring for a Sam, but
>> unfortunately, can't afford it, now matter how I slice the pie).
>>
>> My current bikes are both Centurions. One is an Accordo RS set up as a
>> single speed, Tange Infinity tubing. The other is a Dave Scott Master,
>> 14-speed with Shimano 600 group and Champion 1 tubing.
>>
>> I have been thinking about just keeping the Dave Scott as is for group
>> riding. I have a Brooks on it and could get a small saddle bag for tools, a
>> small jacket, patch kit, etc. BUT, the top tube has a small dent in it. I
>> am probably like the 4th or 5th owner, if not further down the line. If it
>> was a "perfect" frame I probably wouldn't even consider discontinuing it in
>> my line up.
>>
>> The other option is to put the Shimano 600 group on the Accordo and use
>> that as my roadie, then sell all the single speed parts off of it to help
>> buy the Surly and a few parts I still need. Only problem with that is I
>> would have the other frame to sell, and I doubt it would sell as a
>> standalone frame/fork with a dented top tube. Otherwise, that Dave Scott is
>> responsive and really fun to ride. I had the Accordo set up as a road bike
>> and it just didn't have the zip of it's big brother. The Accordo is a bit
>> better looking, though, too. That sweet red paint job with white head tube
>> and seat tube. The Dave Scott is a white with the funny lightning-storm
>> graphics on the fork.
>>
>> I like the Accordo a lot, and it has rear braze on for a rack, as well as
>> a spot for a frame pump (Zefal #4 on the way!), but those would likely go
>> on the Cross Check anyway.
>>
>> I guess in the end, either one would leave me with a road bike with the
>> parts I already have. I'm just sort of looking for a few more factors to
>> consider to help me make the decision.
>>
>> Thanks, all.
>>
>> - Mike in Austin
>>
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Re: [RBW] Should it stay or should it go?

[Aaron Young]

Hi Dan,

I don't think anyone is bagging on the Surly.  In fact I would be happy to
ride one myself.  My point is just that the Cross Check is a different bike
than the Sam H.  Not better or worse, just different.  The CC is a
cyclocross bike with extra braze ons, while the Sam H is probably closer to
a sport touring bike of the mid 1980's. In my understanding at least.  If
one wants what is offered by the Sam H, a CC might not live up to one's
hopes.

Depending on how they are set up a Quickbeam and Cross Check might be very
different bikes as well, so perhaps not the most useful comparison.  It's
good to hear support for the Surly, though.

Really when it comes down to it the most important thing is not which name
is on the frame, but that we are out riding.  Just Ride, right?

-Aaron Young
The Dalles, OR




On Friday, October 3, 2014, Dan A  wrote:

> I may be the lone dissenter, but I think the cross-check is a great bike
> especially for the price. While the Rivendell might win on aesthetics in my
> opinion the Surly matches up well in all other respects. While I love my
> Quickbeam my Cross Check gets a lot more miles.
>
> Dan Abelson
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Re: [RBW] Dyno light recommendation

[Aaron Young]

Especially if you add in the weight of batteries, either built-in
rechargeables or regular replaceables.  Batteries aren't light.

-Aaron Young

The Dalles, OR

On Tuesday, October 7, 2014, Jim Bronson  wrote:

> The SON Deluxe weighs 390 grams.  Significant weight savings?
>
> A Shimano 105 HB-5700 front hub, for example, weighs 210 grams.
>
> A pound is 453 grams.  I'm not sure I could agree that 180 grams
> qualifies as a significant weight savings.
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Re: [RBW] Dyno light recommendation

[Aaron Young]

Let me clarify.  Was thinking of the difference in weight between a dynamo
hub + light + wiring vs. a regular hub + battery powered light + battery
weight.  My thinking was any or most weight savings with a regular,
non-dyno hub would be offset by a battery pack.

Aaron Young
The Dalles, OR

On Wednesday, October 8, 2014, Aaron Young <1ce...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Especially if you add in the weight of batteries, either built-in
> rechargeables or regular replaceables.  Batteries aren't light.
>
> -Aaron Young
>
> The Dalles, OR
>
> On Tuesday, October 7, 2014, Jim Bronson  > wrote:
>
>> The SON Deluxe weighs 390 grams.  Significant weight savings?
>>
>> A Shimano 105 HB-5700 front hub, for example, weighs 210 grams.
>>
>> A pound is 453 grams.  I'm not sure I could agree that 180 grams
>> qualifies as a significant weight savings.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Clem on the Blug

[Aaron Young]

Looks good.  Surprised pleasantly that it has cantilevers.  Also those
chain stays look long and awesome.  Are the seat stays bowed or is that a
camera artifact?

Excited to see the colors and wish I could ride it.  :)

Aaron Young
The Dalles, OR

On Friday, October 10, 2014, Leslie  wrote:

> It's up:
>
> http://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/99627421939/clemshots-and-impressions
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> -L
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Re: [RBW] Clem on the Blug

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Absolutely.  It doesn't matter which side of the handlebar a shifter is on
as long as you route the cables appropriately.   I'm sure there are some
exceptions, but I haven't come across them in my bar-end, friction-shifting
experience.

Aaron Young
The Dalles, OR

On Saturday, October 11, 2014, Garth  wrote:

> This 1x? has me thinking .  can a friction front shifter on the left
> be used to shift the rear dérailleur ?
>
> If wondering why I'd ask  lol.. because lefty is fun :)
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I'm not a nutritionist, but I do practice medicine if that counts for
anything.

In medicine when there is a disease that has many different possible
treatments it indicates we really don't have a good treatment yet, or we
don't understand the disease very well yet. I think this is why there are
so many conflicting thoughts on the "best" diet, and suggests that
nutrition is really complicated and we don't have a full understanding of
it yet. At least not in a way that we can recommend one diet for all people
on one hand, or specific, individualized diets on the other hand. If we
have figured out nutrition, then we would know it and there would be much
less controversy.

I don't know, but my guess is the answer lies in our individual genetics,
which can vary widely, so a one-size-fits-all approach will probably never
work. Perhaps in the future when we really figure out nutrition we will be
able to suggest a diet based on an individual's genome. Certainly there is
nothing wrong with trying different dietary approaches in the meantime.

Till then at least there is something we can all agree on: "Just Ride",
right? :)

Aaron "Please don't ever call me Dr. unless it's Dr. Squirrel" Young
The Dalles, OR

On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 06:45 Patrick Moore  wrote:

> Because such things show ideological fervor and not scientific dispassion.
>
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>>
>> On Thursday, November 6, 2014 12:35:19 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
>>> Incidentally, remembering the story in Daniel about the captives turning
>>> away the rich meats offered by the king and turning out healthier than
>>> everyone else on a diet of legumes, I was amused and appalled to see that
>>> even this has been turned into a theory and a diet.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>> Appalled?  Why would you be appalled?
>>>
>>
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[RBW] WTB: BOSCO BULLMOOOOSE!

[Aaron Young]

hey Gang,

Anyone have a BOSCO bullmoose they want to sell?  Please contact me of
list.

Thanks,
Aaron Young
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Re: [RBW] For Sale-58cm Atlantis Frame/Fork/Headset

[Aaron Young]

RE: the 56 vs 58 Atlantis.  I recently bought a used Atlantis.  My PBH put
me right between both sizes and since there is a significant difference in
wheel size I waited till I had ridden both sizes before choosing.  As far
as standover height, there really wasn't much difference (of course tires
could affect this a bit), but as expected there was just a little less on
the 58 with 700c wheels.  Tire size there was "fattish", but not 50's or
anything.  The 56 on the other hand had 2.15" 26ers and still had a bit
more standover.

Honestly, I think I would be happy on either frame size, but went for a 56
because in my imaginations I saw myself using the Atlantis more off road
than on and even doing some light single track.  So went for 26er and more
standover.  I'm happy with my decision, but with how much riding I have
been doing lately (more like haven't been doing) the frame size is really
moot! :)

Congrats to Bill it seems are in order.

-Aaron "Happy 56er" Young
The Dalles, OR



On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 7:12 PM, oldmangabe  wrote:

> Bill,
>
> Your strong defense and quick handling skills have caused a turnover and
> you are now driving to the hoop.
>
> SALE PENDING.
>
> Thanks everyone. I appreciate it.
>
> Best,
> Gabe
>
>
> On Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:33:12 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> I am working on it.  As the basketball players would say, I'm 'boxing
>> out'.  I got first dibs in.  If you like my builds, stay tunedIf you
>> hate my builds, grab a barf bag.
>>
>> On Thursday, November 13, 2014 12:51:01 PM UTC-8, Mark Reimer wrote:
>>>
>>> That's a killer deal. I paid a fair amount more than that for my 58cm
>>> Atlantis, same year, with only marginally better paint condition. Someone
>>> get on that!
>>>
>>> On Thursday, November 13, 2014 11:53:57 AM UTC-6, Pondero wrote:

 Gee...it's so much fun to spend Bill's money.  Go, Bill!

 Chris Johnson
 Sanger, Texas

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[RBW] Pleasant Dream

[Aaron Young]

Last night I had this really nice dream.  I dreamt I was using my
Wetterling's 111 hatchet (I call it the "Eleventy-One") to carve some pine
into a... I don't know what actually because the dream ended too quickly.
However, in my dream it was such a pleasant thing to do.  The hatchet was
so sharp that shaving a thin layer off the side of the block felt like
running a knife through butter.  Ha!  A short dream, but really quite
pleasant.

Wishing you all pleasant dreams,

Aaron Young
The Dalles, OR

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Re: [RBW] Sam Hillborne, Oregon Outback, Off-roading and the ?: 2 bikes or 2 sets of wheels?

[Aaron Young]

I've been riding an OG green Sam H. with Hetres on all sorts of stuff
including single track (unloaded) with sharp rocks and have had no problems
off road.  With Jan's recent showing on the OO I would be fine taking it as
is on the OO.  However, I would consider packing light as that's what Jan
did.  Also, I wouldn't be opposed to putting a stouter tire on.

If your fit is comfortable on your Sam H. and you really like riding it, I
would recommend that over getting a different bike that you may or may not
like as much.  Especially for a long ride where comfort is key.

As far as studded tires, I rode year round for 4 years in Rochester, NY
which has much more snow the E. Washington and in the winter I never used
studded tires.  My wheels were 27" so I put some small-studded cyclocross
tires on for winter time (I searched for, but did not find studded tires in
that size) and unless there was a literal sheet of ice it was just fine.
Even with studs you aren't guaranteed not crashing on ice.  The key is ride
slow and be careful.  I do admit I fell twice during those 4 years, but
never was injured.  Lucky, I guess.

Those Cazadero's look awesome though.  I may have to check them out.
Thanks, Chris.  Might be good for snow, too.  Sorry, I don't have other
tire recommendations.  Good luck! Hope to see you on the Outback next year
(I hope to go).

-Aaron Young
The Dalles, OR

On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 3:13 PM, Chris Chen  wrote:

> Interesting: I figured a tire like the new Cazadero would be just about
> perfect for most of the outback. I guess you'd need to walk a little but I
> don't figure that's too bad.
>
> Of course I have a 650b x 55 truck so...
>
> On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 2:33 PM, Mike S  wrote:
>
>> So I currently have my Sam Hillborne as my only bike, though I was
>> considering adding a front suspension/disc-brake mountain bike to the
>> stable. There's a deal for a Jamis 650B dragon pro on the interwebs now for
>> $1400, but I'm thinking I could rather add a second set of very nice wheels
>> with fatter tires instead. My main reason to do this is so that first of
>> all, I can have a set of slicks and a set of studded tires in the winter,
>> as I live in a very icy/snowy area and am bummed out by having just studded
>> tank tires to ride in winter. Beyond that, I want to have a set of wheels
>> with a 55mm-ish tire that can handle most gravel/firetrail/light
>> singletrack in a ride like the Oregon Outback, as I am hoping to actually
>> do that ride this summer. It would also just be nice to have this set of
>> wheels that can handle more aggressive off-road riding to go explore
>> different areas where I'm at (Eastern Washington).
>>
>> So, I guess the question I pose to the group is: better to have a second,
>> cheap-ish mountain bike or a second set of really nice wheels to maximize
>> the All-Rounderness of a Hillborne? I've been thinking also about Jan
>> Heine's opinion that a rigid all-road bike with fat tires is the "Porsche
>> 911" of a gravel-orientated ride, and I want to stick with that plan. Also,
>> what are some ideas about the best tire model to do this kind of riding? I
>> think that 50-54mm with a moderately aggressive tread would be perfect, but
>> I'm wondering if there is something better than the Smart Sam?
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Re: [RBW] Flats and Hetres

[Aaron Young]

Jan,

Do you still use tire sweeper contraptions?

Thanks,
Aaron Young
The Dalles, OR

On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 11:06 AM, Jan Heine  wrote:

> I agree with you, with one caveat: Width and tire pressure make a huge
> difference. If you are comparing two 32 mm tires, the supple, light one
> will get more flats. But if you are comparing a puncture-resistant 32 mm
> tire with a supple, light 42 mm tire, the 42 mm tire probably will get
> fewer flats.
>
> For me, the key to riding supple tires with almost zero flats has been
> wide tires, which I run at 38-45 psi.
>
> Jan Heine
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> On Saturday, November 15, 2014 10:28:17 AM UTC-8, Tim McNamara wrote:
>>
>> The simple physics is that light, supple tires with thin rubber are going
>> to be punctured more easily than tires with thicker rubber, heavier walls,
>> puncture strips, etc.
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[RBW] Oregon Outback Rollcall

[Aaron Young]

I'm starting to think serious about it as well.  Probably will take 4-5
days, too.

Btw, thanks Mike for the info/opinions about Hetres on the OO last time.
That's useful.

Aaron Young
The Dalles, OR

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> I'm hoping to be there.  Probably take 4-5 days.  I really want to go at a
> different time from the dog-n-pony show if possible.
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[RBW] Biking with the future wifey.

[Aaron Young]

Looks like you guys are making dreams come true.  Congratulations! :)

-Aaron Young
The Dalles, OR

On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 9:47 PM, Cecily Walker > wrote:

> Congratulations!
>
> On Saturday, November 8, 2014 6:43:02 PM UTC-8, Manuel Acosta wrote:
>
>> You know it's true love when you decide that a ride with a love one is
>> more important than a ride for yourself.
>>
>> Pictures proved that I am incredibly lucky to have someone to join me:
>> https://flic.kr/s/aHsk62KXd2
>>
>> Manny "Weddings are expensive" Acosta
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[RBW] WTB: BOSCO BULLMOOOOSE!

[Aaron Young]

Bump!

There's got to be someone out there that is just itching to get rid of
their Bullmoose Bosco's...  ...right?  Hoping to buy before Thanksgiving.
If Bullmoose doesn't materialize I would also be interested in a wide
58cm steel Bosco Bar.

The plan is to make my dad's old mtn bike Riv'd and Bosco'd over
Thanksgiving.
Right now he has an older, pretty average rigid Schwinn mtn bike.  He has
tried to get a more upright position by rotating the bar ends vertically
and he put tennis balls on their ends.  It's weird in a good way, but less
useful than a Bosco.

Thanks,
Aaron Young
The Dalles, OR

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> hey Gang,
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> Anyone have a BOSCO bullmoose they want to sell?  Please contact me of
> list.
>
> Thanks,
> Aaron Young
> The Dalles, OR
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Re: [RBW] Shoe Recommendations for VP Thin Gripsters (or Grip Kings)

[Aaron Young]

Actually I think the Portland Kids have only one opinion and it's chukka.
Good to hear other opinions and options exist though.  :)

Aaron "only a little embarrassed to admit I ride in chukkas" Young
The Dalles, OR

On Monday, November 17, 2014, Chris Chen  wrote:

> the portland kids have a few opinions about footwear
>
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Re: [RBW] WTB: BOSCO BULLMOOOOSE!

[Aaron Young]

Thanks, David.  I'll look into it.

Thanks,
Aaron

On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 2:48 PM, David Banzer  wrote:

> Aaron,
> I don't have any to sell, but do have a suggestion if you can't track any
> down in time.
> I'd suggest using the Wald 867 as a placeholder.
> The grip section is short, but a couple wine corks in the ends helped me
> and allowed cork grips to be used without trimming them down, with just
> brake levers. Thumb shifters might fit if run at an angle.
> David
> Chicago
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[RBW] WTB: Chromo Bosco - 58cm

[Aaron Young]

I'm still looking for the big daddy Bull Moose Bosco, but if someone has a
chromo-bosco that is 58cm wide I'd be interested in that as well.

Thanks,
Aaron Young
The Dalles, OR

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