Hi Garth, I recently bought a pair of these size Medium. Here's what I measure:
> > -First, I'm seeking the *true waist* measurement. Lye flat the shorts, > measure across the waistband outside to outside, x 2 . Inches. > 31" (15.5 x2) > -Second, the complete rise. From the top of the waist, down the middle > seam to the gusset, call this *Front Rise*. Then do the same for the *Back > Rise*. Then measure *across the gusset* through the virtual middle line. > These 3 measurements and I'll get a *Total Rise*. > 10.5+11+6.5= 28" > -Third, The *outseam*. Just like it sounds, from the top of the side > waist, down the seam to the bottom hem. > 17.5" > -Fourth, The *leg opening*. Lye flat, across the bottom hem . x 2. > 12.5 x 2 = 25" Hope it helps. I've only ridden in these once, but they were just fine. Didn't notice them at all, which is a good thing. Aaron Young The Dalles, OR -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.