[RBW] Misc MUSA & items FS

[Fullylugged]

I found a few items that either no longer fit (the result of eating less and 
riding more!), or don't get used. offered here first.

MUSA Boosucker shorts. Excellent condition. Bamboo seersucker in gray with blue 
solid patches. Button rear pockets. Reflective tabs on leg backs. Size L. $35
MUSA kickers. Blue. Barely used. Size M. $35
Smartwool Rambition Ladies shorts. Size M. Very good condition $30
Ibex Duo Mens shorts. Size XL. Very good condition $30
No Name Men's wool shorts. Size M but fits like a L. Simple chamois and outer 
fabric wear protection panel $30.
All plus postage to wherever you are.
I also have a couple of size L wool jerseys in good to excellent shape on ebay, 
made by the now defunct Joneswares.

Email me with questions, requests for pictures or links, or to claim an item.

Thanks and enjoy the ride.

bruce

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[RBW] Misc MUSA & items FS

[Fullylugged]

The Ibex Duo shorts are claimed.  Thank you

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[RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[jandrews_nyc]

Do we know what is NOT coming with the complete bike?
I think I remember reading that saddle and pedals are included but grips 
aren't?
Does anyone know for sure?
I have a Med 'tine on the way
If grips aren't installed, I'm thinking these natural rubber grips from 
V.O. would do the trick
http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/leather-goods-handlebar-grips/constructeur-rubber-grip.html

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[RBW] FS/FT Stainless Aeropress filter

[Conway Bennett]

I went into the cabinet get some tea and realized I had an extra stainless 
Aeropress filter.  I bought a two pack on Amazon wy back when but I only 
have ONE Aeropress.  How's $5.00 shipped or trade me something for it.

Fair winds,

Captain Conway

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RE: [RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[Allingham II, Thomas J]

I ordered a couple pairs of these grips, and they're VERY nice.  The natural 
gum ones might find their way to my impending Wilbury build.

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Subject: [RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

Do we know what is NOT coming with the complete bike?
I think I remember reading that saddle and pedals are included but grips aren't?
Does anyone know for sure?
I have a Med 'tine on the way
If grips aren't installed, I'm thinking these natural rubber grips from V.O. 
would do the trick
http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/leather-goods-handlebar-grips/constructeur-rubber-grip.html
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[RBW] Re: Rivet Saddles

[Jayme Frye]

Not seeing anything on the website about trial saddles. Maybe this service 
has been discontinued. :-(

Jayme 

On Saturday, October 24, 2015 at 5:12:01 PM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:
>
> Debra will sell you any saddle for a $35 trial.  You can buy a trial right 
> online.  After two months or so, you either pay the balance or send it back 
> to her.  
>
> On Saturday, October 24, 2015 at 5:10:32 PM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:
>>
>> I have a Diablo on my go-fast and it will stay there.  They rounder than 
>> Brooks and generally feel harder, but they work quite well.  Others have 
>> posted that B17 was too narrow for them, and Pearl was a perfect fit. 
>>
>> On Saturday, October 24, 2015 at 4:17:33 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>>
>>> I love mine. Diablos on both: Hunqapillar and Quickbeam.
>>>
>>> With abandon,
>>> Patrick
>>>
>>> On Saturday, October 24, 2015 at 2:20:04 PM UTC-6, Daniel Jackson wrote:

 Anybody have any experience with them? Thoughts? 

 Thanks,
 D.

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[RBW] FS/FT Stainless Aeropress filter

[Conway Bennett]

Filter has been dibsed.

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[RBW] Hand made hack quick release Fenders!

['Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch]

After asking the group for fender recommendations, I bought Velo Oranges 
stainless. I found them to be too heavy, and they did not give me enough 
tire clearance. I then went and looked at Woody's wood fenders and found 
them to be too heavy too, and too thick for clearance with my 2.25 tires.  



The fenders I used are Planet Bikes quick release model. The stock 
attachments are terrible, so I made fender clips that snap onto my *racks*, 
from ABS, using a heat gun, and they snap on with authority. I fine tuned 
the front ones for a safety release in case I suck up a stick. The fenders 
snap on and off in about 40 seconds. They are laterally far more rigid than 
all the permanent mounted fenders I have tried, as the wire stays are 
shorter and splay out more.  I glued and riveted a thin compound curved 
stainless strip to the front fender to increase lateral stiffness, which 
helped a wee bit. I had to remove and reposition the rear stock stays. You 
can see how short they are. 

 

 


I am rather surprised and very happy on how well these work. 


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[RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[Wayne Naha]

I believe that grips are included with the Clems.  Riv decided to include 
them at some point, it's in the Blug.  Those rubber grips look good, 
though.  Is that kickstand seen on El Sapo's Clem included?  I don't recall 
reading about that anywhere.

On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 9:37:09 AM UTC-4, jandrews_nyc wrote:
>
> Do we know what is NOT coming with the complete bike?
> I think I remember reading that saddle and pedals are included but grips 
> aren't?
> Does anyone know for sure?
> I have a Med 'tine on the way
> If grips aren't installed, I'm thinking these natural rubber grips from 
> V.O. would do the trick
>
> http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/leather-goods-handlebar-grips/constructeur-rubber-grip.html
>

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[RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[Ryan Fleming]

That's a nice-looking bike...blue's nice. How's the ride?

On Friday, October 23, 2015 at 4:33:02 PM UTC-5, El Sapo wrote:
>
> Blue, different from the protos, not as dark. I'm liking it. The ferrules 
> are festive like Grant said they would be. 

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[RBW] Re: Rivet Saddles

[Ron Mc]

Jayme, I couldn't find it that way, even after talking to Debra on the 
phone.  She sent me an e-mail with a link, which I probably have in a bike 
folder on my e-mail - I'll get back this afternoon. 

On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 10:05:00 AM UTC-5, Jayme Frye wrote:
>
> Not seeing anything on the website about trial saddles. Maybe this service 
> has been discontinued. :-(
>
> Jayme 
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: My Rivendell Rodeo build

[reynoldslugs]

Hi Bruce, I have a question about those Campagnolo flat bar shifters - - 
specifically, can you share your thoughts on how they work with the front 
derailleur shifts?.  Can you trim the front derailleur? 

Or is the front shift a "big click," like the Shimanos?

I love the build you did, and would like to try flat bars + Campagnolo flat 
bar shifters on a couple bikes (including a  Roadeo), but I'm not sure how 
the front derailleur would work with my triples and wide range doubles.

That's a great color for your Roadeo, and a nice build.  Mine's a 2010, and 
also has a Campagnolo drive train, hence my interest in your flat bar 
shifters.  Pix here:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/albums/72157625470080748

thanks

Max
 

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[RBW] FS: Schwalbe Mondials, 3x 46T chainrings

[Michael Williams]

hello group:   For sale are some random bits:   A pair of basically new 
Schwalbe Mondial tires 700x47, $50.  And 3 46T 110bcd chainrings. Again,  
basically new condition. $15 each.   All prices include shipping.  Please 
contact off list and thank you!-Mike

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[RBW] WTB 22 mm Newbaum's rim tape

[Conway Bennett]

WTB 22 mm Newbaum's rim tape because shipping is more than the product.  Thanks 
in advance!

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[RBW] Re: What fenders will best fit this frame?

[Patrick Moore]

Well, I got the curved, wood fender sample from Cody today and, while it
will just work under the front caliper, it is too tight under the rear. So,
it's either plastic fenders (hacked; either narrow 700 c bent to fit 25"
wheels, or wide 26" fenders somehow trimmed for the tight spots) or try to
re-curve wooden ones, or hacking wooden ones.

I'd be grateful to see more photos of interrupted fenders, ie using metal
brackets under the tight spots at bridge and crown.

I wonder if it's possible to get wooden fenders (curved) with the
separation under the tight spots, and, instead of metal strips/brackets to
join them, use sections of metal fenders to do so -- this to give coverage
under the calipers. Anyone?

I'm leaning toward getting 35-40 mm 700C metals and trying the "billiard
ball" method to reshape them. Any advice for this sort of hack?

Thanks.

On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 12:36 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:

> I sent this mss to Cody who makes custom wood fenders, asking for his
> judgment whether flat or curved wood would fit best. But I'd like others'
> opinions about off the shelf possibilities.
>
> A narrow fender -- about 40 mm wide overall -- but with a shallow profile
> would fit best, but this would have to be made for a tire with a diameter
> just shy of 25". No one makes such a beast, as far as I know.
>
> I've mounted 35 and 40 mm PB and SKS 700 c fenders which have a nice,
> shallow profile, but there is inevitably deformation near the brake bridge
> and crown as the fender is forced to follow a tighter curve than its radius
> is meant for.
>
> the 40 mm 650B Berthoud fits the curve better than any other off the shelf
> one, but the profile is too tight.
>
> All the 559 bsd fenders I've seen are 50 or 60 mm wide. I suppose I could
> cut out sections under crown and stays ...?
>
> It seems wood, custom, is the best option, but do y'all have better ideas?
>
>
> 
> From original email:
>
> Attachment would be at threaded bosses under crown and bridge.
>
> Gap under front brake caliper is about 11 mm.
>
> Gap under rear brake caliper is about 8 mm.
>
> Rear fender would end just short of rearmost portion of tire; in other
> words, it would be short so that I can shove the bike into a car without
> putting pressure on the rear fender. I measure 34" from chainstay bridge to
> the position on the tire where I'd like fender to end; note that this
> measurement is with tape lying on the tire itself; if the fender is ~1cm
> above, perhaps that would add additional length?
>
> Front would be long enough to bolt to the light mount/rack support arch.
> Distance from center of fork crown to 1" beyond arch is 11.5"; again, this
> is measured with tape lying on the tire.
>
> Overall length from arch to where I'd like it above ground is 32" --
> again, measured with tape lying on tire.
>
> What do you recommend for the best fit, flat or curved. Which is less
> likely to warp? I'm more interested in fit and durability than fancy finish
> or pattern.
>
>



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[RBW] Re: WTB: single silver downtube shifter

[Arthur Mayfield]

I've got a left one, David. The bike I used the right one on is a 1x7/8/9, 
so I may as well sell the left. $20, shipped within the US.

On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 12:17:29 AM UTC-4, dstein wrote:
>
> Looking to free up some handlebar space and move the left shifter from the 
> handlebars to downtube. Since they're sold as a pair hoping to score just a 
> single one here. Let me know if you have one to sell! Also looking for a 
> left Sunrace shifter to mount on the right on the inside.
>

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[RBW] Re: Rivet Saddles

[Eileen Lloyd]

I have a black chromoly, slotted Rivet Independence.  It works better than 
my B17 Special and it doesn't need a rain cover. Longest ride has been over 
600K.  Hope to do a 1200K on it.

On Saturday, October 24, 2015 at 1:20:04 PM UTC-7, Daniel Jackson wrote:
>
> Anybody have any experience with them? Thoughts? 
>
> Thanks,
> D.
>

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[RBW] Schwalbe Marathon Supreme vs. Jack Brown Blue

[john]

I'm a big fan of the Jack Brown Greens! I run them on my Hillborne. 
However, they're now painfully thin, and I keep flatting. As the Hillborne 
is now my commuter - as opposed to speedster - and I dislike flatting on 
commutes, I'm considering which tires to replace them with.

Are the Jack Blues noticeably better at preventing flats than the Greens? 
And, how do they compare with the Marathon Supremes? Do the Supremes feel 
heavy and sluggish, or do they ride okay? 

Which would you choose for a commuter, one that you want to roll well?

Thanks.

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[RBW] Misc MUSA & items FS

[Fullylugged]

The knickers are now also claimed.  Thank you

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[RBW] Re: Rivet Saddles

[Ron Mc]

here's the Try link, It's $25 + $18 to ship 
 http://rivetcycleworks.com/product/try-buy/

On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 11:05:25 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:
>
> Jayme, I couldn't find it that way, even after talking to Debra on the 
> phone.  She sent me an e-mail with a link, which I probably have in a bike 
> folder on my e-mail - I'll get back this afternoon. 
>
> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 10:05:00 AM UTC-5, Jayme Frye wrote:
>>
>> Not seeing anything on the website about trial saddles. Maybe this 
>> service has been discontinued. :-(
>>
>> Jayme 
>>
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Schwalbe Marathon Supreme vs. Jack Brown Blue

[clyde canter]

The Blues or the Supremes won't come close to the ride quality of the
Greens.  I've had all three.  I would favor the Blues over the Supremes.
It is my "opinion" that the Supremes were the most overpriced component
I've purchased. They are tough, but so are so many other tires and their
ride is not all that great at all. Again "opinion".
On the other end of the spectrum I find the rubber of the JBs, ruffy tuffy.
rolly polly to hold small chunks of glass better than any tire I"ve ridden.
Therefore I wasn't fond of all the flats I got with the Greens.


On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 1:32 PM, john  wrote:

> I'm a big fan of the Jack Brown Greens! I run them on my Hillborne.
> However, they're now painfully thin, and I keep flatting. As the Hillborne
> is now my commuter - as opposed to speedster - and I dislike flatting on
> commutes, I'm considering which tires to replace them with.
>
> Are the Jack Blues noticeably better at preventing flats than the Greens?
> And, how do they compare with the Marathon Supremes? Do the Supremes feel
> heavy and sluggish, or do they ride okay?
>
> Which would you choose for a commuter, one that you want to roll well?
>
> Thanks.
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[RBW] Re: What fenders will best fit this frame?

[Patrick Moore]

One other possibility, for which y'all's comments will be welcome:

Could one buy 26" plastic or metal fenders, 50 mm wide, and cut them to fit
between stays and fork legs?

Like these:

http://ecom1.planetbike.com/7053-8.html

Or, even better, these:

http://www.backcountry.com/blackburn-cloudburst-fender-set?CMP_SKU=BLB0147&MER=0406&skid=BLB0147-ONECOL-S26XS45MM&CMP_ID=PLA_GOc001&mv_pc=r101&utm_source=Google&utm_medium=PLA&mr:trackingCode=CF6ACB7F-996A-E411-9BFE-BC305BF82376&mr:referralID=NA&mr:device=c&mr:adType=plaonline&mr:ad=79923400237&mr:keyword&mr:match&mr:tid=kwd-92796603877&mr:ploc=1022494&mr:iloc&mr:store&mr:filter=92796603877&gclid=CMSs89Xb4MgCFYRDaQod7oQIlA&gclsrc=aw.ds#

On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 10:36 AM, Patrick Moore  wrote:

> Well, I got the curved, wood fender sample from Cody today and, while it
> will just work under the front caliper, it is too tight under the rear. So,
> it's either plastic fenders (hacked; either narrow 700 c bent to fit 25"
> wheels, or wide 26" fenders somehow trimmed for the tight spots) or try to
> re-curve wooden ones, or hacking wooden ones.
>
> I'd be grateful to see more photos of interrupted fenders, ie using metal
> brackets under the tight spots at bridge and crown.
>
> I wonder if it's possible to get wooden fenders (curved) with the
> separation under the tight spots, and, instead of metal strips/brackets to
> join them, use sections of metal fenders to do so -- this to give coverage
> under the calipers. Anyone?
>
> I'm leaning toward getting 35-40 mm 700C metals and trying the "billiard
> ball" method to reshape them. Any advice for this sort of hack?
>
> Thanks.
>
> On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 12:36 PM, Patrick Moore 
> wrote:
>
>> I sent this mss to Cody who makes custom wood fenders, asking for his
>> judgment whether flat or curved wood would fit best. But I'd like others'
>> opinions about off the shelf possibilities.
>>
>> A narrow fender -- about 40 mm wide overall -- but with a shallow profile
>> would fit best, but this would have to be made for a tire with a diameter
>> just shy of 25". No one makes such a beast, as far as I know.
>>
>> I've mounted 35 and 40 mm PB and SKS 700 c fenders which have a nice,
>> shallow profile, but there is inevitably deformation near the brake bridge
>> and crown as the fender is forced to follow a tighter curve than its radius
>> is meant for.
>>
>> the 40 mm 650B Berthoud fits the curve better than any other off the
>> shelf one, but the profile is too tight.
>>
>> All the 559 bsd fenders I've seen are 50 or 60 mm wide. I suppose I could
>> cut out sections under crown and stays ...?
>>
>> It seems wood, custom, is the best option, but do y'all have better ideas?
>>
>>
>> 
>> From original email:
>>
>> Attachment would be at threaded bosses under crown and bridge.
>>
>> Gap under front brake caliper is about 11 mm.
>>
>> Gap under rear brake caliper is about 8 mm.
>>
>> Rear fender would end just short of rearmost portion of tire; in other
>> words, it would be short so that I can shove the bike into a car without
>> putting pressure on the rear fender. I measure 34" from chainstay bridge to
>> the position on the tire where I'd like fender to end; note that this
>> measurement is with tape lying on the tire itself; if the fender is ~1cm
>> above, perhaps that would add additional length?
>>
>> Front would be long enough to bolt to the light mount/rack support arch.
>> Distance from center of fork crown to 1" beyond arch is 11.5"; again, this
>> is measured with tape lying on the tire.
>>
>> Overall length from arch to where I'd like it above ground is 32" --
>> again, measured with tape lying on tire.
>>
>> What do you recommend for the best fit, flat or curved. Which is less
>> likely to warp? I'm more interested in fit and durability than fancy finish
>> or pattern.
>>
>>
>
>
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[RBW] Re: What fenders will best fit this frame?

[Patrick Moore]

Or even better: I see PJW has 26" X 50 mm fenders by Berthoud in st steel
...

On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 12:05 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:

> One other possibility, for which y'all's comments will be welcome:
>
> Could one buy 26" plastic or metal fenders, 50 mm wide, and cut them to
> fit between stays and fork legs?
>
> Like these:
>
> http://ecom1.planetbike.com/7053-8.html
>
> Or, even better, these:
>
>
> http://www.backcountry.com/blackburn-cloudburst-fender-set?CMP_SKU=BLB0147&MER=0406&skid=BLB0147-ONECOL-S26XS45MM&CMP_ID=PLA_GOc001&mv_pc=r101&utm_source=Google&utm_medium=PLA&mr:trackingCode=CF6ACB7F-996A-E411-9BFE-BC305BF82376&mr:referralID=NA&mr:device=c&mr:adType=plaonline&mr:ad=79923400237&mr:keyword&mr:match&mr:tid=kwd-92796603877&mr:ploc=1022494&mr:iloc&mr:store&mr:filter=92796603877&gclid=CMSs89Xb4MgCFYRDaQod7oQIlA&gclsrc=aw.ds#
>
> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 10:36 AM, Patrick Moore 
> wrote:
>
>> Well, I got the curved, wood fender sample from Cody today and, while it
>> will just work under the front caliper, it is too tight under the rear. So,
>> it's either plastic fenders (hacked; either narrow 700 c bent to fit 25"
>> wheels, or wide 26" fenders somehow trimmed for the tight spots) or try to
>> re-curve wooden ones, or hacking wooden ones.
>>
>> I'd be grateful to see more photos of interrupted fenders, ie using metal
>> brackets under the tight spots at bridge and crown.
>>
>> I wonder if it's possible to get wooden fenders (curved) with the
>> separation under the tight spots, and, instead of metal strips/brackets to
>> join them, use sections of metal fenders to do so -- this to give coverage
>> under the calipers. Anyone?
>>
>> I'm leaning toward getting 35-40 mm 700C metals and trying the "billiard
>> ball" method to reshape them. Any advice for this sort of hack?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 12:36 PM, Patrick Moore 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I sent this mss to Cody who makes custom wood fenders, asking for his
>>> judgment whether flat or curved wood would fit best. But I'd like others'
>>> opinions about off the shelf possibilities.
>>>
>>> A narrow fender -- about 40 mm wide overall -- but with a shallow
>>> profile would fit best, but this would have to be made for a tire with a
>>> diameter just shy of 25". No one makes such a beast, as far as I know.
>>>
>>> I've mounted 35 and 40 mm PB and SKS 700 c fenders which have a nice,
>>> shallow profile, but there is inevitably deformation near the brake bridge
>>> and crown as the fender is forced to follow a tighter curve than its radius
>>> is meant for.
>>>
>>> the 40 mm 650B Berthoud fits the curve better than any other off the
>>> shelf one, but the profile is too tight.
>>>
>>> All the 559 bsd fenders I've seen are 50 or 60 mm wide. I suppose I
>>> could cut out sections under crown and stays ...?
>>>
>>> It seems wood, custom, is the best option, but do y'all have better
>>> ideas?
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> From original email:
>>>
>>> Attachment would be at threaded bosses under crown and bridge.
>>>
>>> Gap under front brake caliper is about 11 mm.
>>>
>>> Gap under rear brake caliper is about 8 mm.
>>>
>>> Rear fender would end just short of rearmost portion of tire; in other
>>> words, it would be short so that I can shove the bike into a car without
>>> putting pressure on the rear fender. I measure 34" from chainstay bridge to
>>> the position on the tire where I'd like fender to end; note that this
>>> measurement is with tape lying on the tire itself; if the fender is ~1cm
>>> above, perhaps that would add additional length?
>>>
>>> Front would be long enough to bolt to the light mount/rack support arch.
>>> Distance from center of fork crown to 1" beyond arch is 11.5"; again, this
>>> is measured with tape lying on the tire.
>>>
>>> Overall length from arch to where I'd like it above ground is 32" --
>>> again, measured with tape lying on tire.
>>>
>>> What do you recommend for the best fit, flat or curved. Which is less
>>> likely to warp? I'm more interested in fit and durability than fancy finish
>>> or pattern.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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[RBW] FS: Parts Bin Purge/Moving Sale - Vintage, French, Campy, Suntour

[Daniel]

Sorry for the spam. I'm a long time member, but currently in lurk mode. I'm 
preparing for upcoming move; would like to lighten the load, fatten the 
wallet. Please help!

Prices are pre-shipping. Shipping via USPS Priority preferred unless 
otherwise noted or discussed. Local pickup in Orange County, CA would be 
great. 

Please reply offlist

Pictures here  and inline.

Daniel
YL, CA



*Accessories*

Air Zound - NIB, $20

link1 

Airzound - used, $15

link1 , link2 
 

Crane handlebar bell mount, could be cool for a variety of accessories, not 
just bells, $4

link1 , link2 


 

*Bag*

Ruth Works Porteur Bag for Wald 139 Basket, $90 without basket, $100 with 
basket

Ely’s pictures 
, my 
photo1 
, 
my photo2 
, 
my photo3 
, 
my photo4 
, 
my photo5 
, 
my photo6 
, 
my photo7 
, 
my photo7 


 

*Bottom bracket*

Campy Square Taper 111mm Bottom Bracket, $75

photo1 


 

*Brake parts*

Tektro cable hanger, $5

photo 


 

*Brakes*

Deore XT cantilever brakes, $30

link 


Mafac Racer, $20 – *Pending payment*

Suntour Cyclone brake, no barrel, $15

https://flic.kr/p/zh4F2L, https://flic.kr/p/zWvohN 

Tektro 926AL Mini V brakes - $20

link1 , 
link2 , 
link3 


 

 

*Brakes levers*

Suntour Aero Levers, $15

https://flic.kr/p/Af53xT, https://flic.kr/p/zh5dcG, 
https://flic.kr/p/AcVd4Y 

Tektro Fixie Brake Lever, $10

link1 
, 
link2 


Tektro RL720 Brake Levers (2 sets available), $20


https://www.flickr.com/photos/dvadna/22438376336/in/album-72157660289317862/

Tektro RL341 (NIB), $20

link1 , link2 


 

*Chainring*

Campy 52T chainring, NR, $20

https://flic.kr/p/zWCiZr, https://flic.kr/p/Ae8Pmz, 

Ritchey 44T MUSA chainring - 94BCD, $20 – *Pending Payment*

 

*Cog*

16T cog, $2

link 


Wheels Manufacturing Shimano 8 --> Campy 8 Spacers, $15

https://www.flickr.com/photos/dvadna/21843173643/in/album-72157660289317862/

 

*Cranks*

Suntour Cyclone crank 175mm 52/42, $30* – Pending payment*

TA Vis 5 Cyclotourist 38/50 170mm, with TA extractor, Shimano BB, free 
Celeste Look pedals, if you ask $80

link1 
, 
link2 
, 
link3 
, 
link4 
, 
link5 
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link6 
, 
lnk7 
, 
link8 
, 
link9 
, 
link10 
, 
link11 
, 
link12 
, 
link13 

[RBW] Re: FS Waterford T-14 64cm

[MartyG]

Frame arrived today in fine shape, thanks to member Paul. Beautiful color I 
must say. Wheels are Rich-built Dyads with a White ENO hub out back as I 
plan to set it up as a sturdy rail-trail one-off. I'm running 38mm Schwalbe 
Marathon Cross tires - they fit swell. Need to start scavenging parts from 
other biles to finish the build, but I can tell it will be a fantastic 
ride. Will be using Paul Neo-retro brakes, maybe a Paul crankset, and 
various other nice bits. I have more than one Paul to thank I guess! Will 
be recording the fun in this Flickr album: 
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/32306142@N07/albums/72157659959226798

Marty






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[RBW] Re: What fenders will best fit this frame?

[Patrick Moore]

That is a good idea except for the struts, as I said. I want the underside
of my fork and bridge protected.

On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 12:08 PM, robert clark  wrote:

> Fenderis-interruptus ,...Cut and splice it with more bent to shape  SS
> rack Struts  to span the gap on either side of your Brake.
>
>
> On Wednesday, October 21, 2015 at 11:37:32 AM UTC-7, bertin753 wrote:
>>
>> I sent this mss to Cody who makes custom wood fenders, asking for his
>> judgment whether flat or curved wood would fit best. But I'd like others'
>> opinions about off the shelf possibilities.
>>
>> A narrow fender -- about 40 mm wide overall -- but with a shallow profile
>> would fit best, but this would have to be made for a tire with a diameter
>> just shy of 25". No one makes such a beast, as far as I know.
>>
>> I've mounted 35 and 40 mm PB and SKS 700 c fenders which have a nice,
>> shallow profile, but there is inevitably deformation near the brake bridge
>> and crown as the fender is forced to follow a tighter curve than its radius
>> is meant for.
>>
>> the 40 mm 650B Berthoud fits the curve better than any other off the
>> shelf one, but the profile is too tight.
>>
>> All the 559 bsd fenders I've seen are 50 or 60 mm wide. I suppose I could
>> cut out sections under crown and stays ...?
>>
>> It seems wood, custom, is the best option, but do y'all have better ideas?
>>
>>
>> 
>> From original email:
>>
>> Attachment would be at threaded bosses under crown and bridge.
>>
>> Gap under front brake caliper is about 11 mm.
>>
>> Gap under rear brake caliper is about 8 mm.
>>
>> Rear fender would end just short of rearmost portion of tire; in other
>> words, it would be short so that I can shove the bike into a car without
>> putting pressure on the rear fender. I measure 34" from chainstay bridge to
>> the position on the tire where I'd like fender to end; note that this
>> measurement is with tape lying on the tire itself; if the fender is ~1cm
>> above, perhaps that would add additional length?
>>
>> Front would be long enough to bolt to the light mount/rack support arch.
>> Distance from center of fork crown to 1" beyond arch is 11.5"; again, this
>> is measured with tape lying on the tire.
>>
>> Overall length from arch to where I'd like it above ground is 32" --
>> again, measured with tape lying on tire.
>>
>> What do you recommend for the best fit, flat or curved. Which is less
>> likely to warp? I'm more interested in fit and durability than fancy finish
>> or pattern.
>>
>>
>


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[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Marathon Supreme vs. Jack Brown Blue

[Jay in Tel Aviv]

I have commuted with Supremes on my Hillborne for several years. They get 
almost no flats, and are much much lighter than any other "flat-proof" 
tire. The trade-offs are right for me, but I was on Marathon pluses before. 
No time for flats.


Jay

On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 7:32:56 PM UTC+2, john wrote:
>
> I'm a big fan of the Jack Brown Greens! I run them on my Hillborne. 
> However, they're now painfully thin, and I keep flatting. As the Hillborne 
> is now my commuter - as opposed to speedster - and I dislike flatting on 
> commutes, I'm considering which tires to replace them with.
>
> Are the Jack Blues noticeably better at preventing flats than the Greens? 
> And, how do they compare with the Marathon Supremes? Do the Supremes feel 
> heavy and sluggish, or do they ride okay? 
>
> Which would you choose for a commuter, one that you want to roll well?
>
> Thanks.
>

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[RBW] Re: What fenders will best fit this frame?

[Patrick Moore]

About cutting "divots" in the fenders to fit between fork legs and stays:
This will, obviously, make the fenders at least slightly weaker and more
prone to flex. But are not the fenders supported largely by the stays? Or,
could one not reinforce the trimmed area with a metal bracket?

On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 12:05 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:

> One other possibility, for which y'all's comments will be welcome:
>
> Could one buy 26" plastic or metal fenders, 50 mm wide, and cut them to
> fit between stays and fork legs?
>
> Like these:
>
> http://ecom1.planetbike.com/7053-8.html
>
> Or, even better, these:
>
>
> http://www.backcountry.com/blackburn-cloudburst-fender-set?CMP_SKU=BLB0147&MER=0406&skid=BLB0147-ONECOL-S26XS45MM&CMP_ID=PLA_GOc001&mv_pc=r101&utm_source=Google&utm_medium=PLA&mr:trackingCode=CF6ACB7F-996A-E411-9BFE-BC305BF82376&mr:referralID=NA&mr:device=c&mr:adType=plaonline&mr:ad=79923400237&mr:keyword&mr:match&mr:tid=kwd-92796603877&mr:ploc=1022494&mr:iloc&mr:store&mr:filter=92796603877&gclid=CMSs89Xb4MgCFYRDaQod7oQIlA&gclsrc=aw.ds#
>
> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 10:36 AM, Patrick Moore 
> wrote:
>
>> Well, I got the curved, wood fender sample from Cody today and, while it
>> will just work under the front caliper, it is too tight under the rear. So,
>> it's either plastic fenders (hacked; either narrow 700 c bent to fit 25"
>> wheels, or wide 26" fenders somehow trimmed for the tight spots) or try to
>> re-curve wooden ones, or hacking wooden ones.
>>
>> I'd be grateful to see more photos of interrupted fenders, ie using metal
>> brackets under the tight spots at bridge and crown.
>>
>> I wonder if it's possible to get wooden fenders (curved) with the
>> separation under the tight spots, and, instead of metal strips/brackets to
>> join them, use sections of metal fenders to do so -- this to give coverage
>> under the calipers. Anyone?
>>
>> I'm leaning toward getting 35-40 mm 700C metals and trying the "billiard
>> ball" method to reshape them. Any advice for this sort of hack?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 12:36 PM, Patrick Moore 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I sent this mss to Cody who makes custom wood fenders, asking for his
>>> judgment whether flat or curved wood would fit best. But I'd like others'
>>> opinions about off the shelf possibilities.
>>>
>>> A narrow fender -- about 40 mm wide overall -- but with a shallow
>>> profile would fit best, but this would have to be made for a tire with a
>>> diameter just shy of 25". No one makes such a beast, as far as I know.
>>>
>>> I've mounted 35 and 40 mm PB and SKS 700 c fenders which have a nice,
>>> shallow profile, but there is inevitably deformation near the brake bridge
>>> and crown as the fender is forced to follow a tighter curve than its radius
>>> is meant for.
>>>
>>> the 40 mm 650B Berthoud fits the curve better than any other off the
>>> shelf one, but the profile is too tight.
>>>
>>> All the 559 bsd fenders I've seen are 50 or 60 mm wide. I suppose I
>>> could cut out sections under crown and stays ...?
>>>
>>> It seems wood, custom, is the best option, but do y'all have better
>>> ideas?
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> From original email:
>>>
>>> Attachment would be at threaded bosses under crown and bridge.
>>>
>>> Gap under front brake caliper is about 11 mm.
>>>
>>> Gap under rear brake caliper is about 8 mm.
>>>
>>> Rear fender would end just short of rearmost portion of tire; in other
>>> words, it would be short so that I can shove the bike into a car without
>>> putting pressure on the rear fender. I measure 34" from chainstay bridge to
>>> the position on the tire where I'd like fender to end; note that this
>>> measurement is with tape lying on the tire itself; if the fender is ~1cm
>>> above, perhaps that would add additional length?
>>>
>>> Front would be long enough to bolt to the light mount/rack support arch.
>>> Distance from center of fork crown to 1" beyond arch is 11.5"; again, this
>>> is measured with tape lying on the tire.
>>>
>>> Overall length from arch to where I'd like it above ground is 32" --
>>> again, measured with tape lying on tire.
>>>
>>> What do you recommend for the best fit, flat or curved. Which is less
>>> likely to warp? I'm more interested in fit and durability than fancy finish
>>> or pattern.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: What fenders will best fit this frame?

[Tim Gavin]

Yes, you could easily mill away some cutouts so the fender fits around
narrow stays.  SKS chromoplastics are very easy to cut with a roto-tool
like a dremel.

Cut slowly and carefully.  Any cut you make creates a future weakness for
cracking, so keep your cutouts nice and round.

On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 1:05 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:

> One other possibility, for which y'all's comments will be welcome:
>
> Could one buy 26" plastic or metal fenders, 50 mm wide, and cut them to
> fit between stays and fork legs?
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: What fenders will best fit this frame?

[Tim Gavin]

Sure.  I'd start with a lighter reinforcement, like metallic tape (for
furnace ducts).

The rear of the fenders are well-supported by the stays, but the section
forward of the fork is only self-supported.  If you tack it to the bottom
of a front rack it would be pretty secure.

On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:

> About cutting "divots" in the fenders to fit between fork legs and stays:
> This will, obviously, make the fenders at least slightly weaker and more
> prone to flex. But are not the fenders supported largely by the stays? Or,
> could one not reinforce the trimmed area with a metal bracket?
>
> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 12:05 PM, Patrick Moore 
> wrote:
>
>> One other possibility, for which y'all's comments will be welcome:
>>
>> Could one buy 26" plastic or metal fenders, 50 mm wide, and cut them to
>> fit between stays and fork legs?
>>
>> Like these:
>>
>> http://ecom1.planetbike.com/7053-8.html
>>
>> Or, even better, these:
>>
>>
>> http://www.backcountry.com/blackburn-cloudburst-fender-set?CMP_SKU=BLB0147&MER=0406&skid=BLB0147-ONECOL-S26XS45MM&CMP_ID=PLA_GOc001&mv_pc=r101&utm_source=Google&utm_medium=PLA&mr:trackingCode=CF6ACB7F-996A-E411-9BFE-BC305BF82376&mr:referralID=NA&mr:device=c&mr:adType=plaonline&mr:ad=79923400237&mr:keyword&mr:match&mr:tid=kwd-92796603877&mr:ploc=1022494&mr:iloc&mr:store&mr:filter=92796603877&gclid=CMSs89Xb4MgCFYRDaQod7oQIlA&gclsrc=aw.ds#
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 10:36 AM, Patrick Moore 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Well, I got the curved, wood fender sample from Cody today and, while it
>>> will just work under the front caliper, it is too tight under the rear. So,
>>> it's either plastic fenders (hacked; either narrow 700 c bent to fit 25"
>>> wheels, or wide 26" fenders somehow trimmed for the tight spots) or try to
>>> re-curve wooden ones, or hacking wooden ones.
>>>
>>> I'd be grateful to see more photos of interrupted fenders, ie using
>>> metal brackets under the tight spots at bridge and crown.
>>>
>>> I wonder if it's possible to get wooden fenders (curved) with the
>>> separation under the tight spots, and, instead of metal strips/brackets to
>>> join them, use sections of metal fenders to do so -- this to give coverage
>>> under the calipers. Anyone?
>>>
>>> I'm leaning toward getting 35-40 mm 700C metals and trying the "billiard
>>> ball" method to reshape them. Any advice for this sort of hack?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 12:36 PM, Patrick Moore 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I sent this mss to Cody who makes custom wood fenders, asking for his
 judgment whether flat or curved wood would fit best. But I'd like others'
 opinions about off the shelf possibilities.

 A narrow fender -- about 40 mm wide overall -- but with a shallow
 profile would fit best, but this would have to be made for a tire with a
 diameter just shy of 25". No one makes such a beast, as far as I know.

 I've mounted 35 and 40 mm PB and SKS 700 c fenders which have a nice,
 shallow profile, but there is inevitably deformation near the brake bridge
 and crown as the fender is forced to follow a tighter curve than its radius
 is meant for.

 the 40 mm 650B Berthoud fits the curve better than any other off the
 shelf one, but the profile is too tight.

 All the 559 bsd fenders I've seen are 50 or 60 mm wide. I suppose I
 could cut out sections under crown and stays ...?

 It seems wood, custom, is the best option, but do y'all have better
 ideas?


 
 From original email:

 Attachment would be at threaded bosses under crown and bridge.

 Gap under front brake caliper is about 11 mm.

 Gap under rear brake caliper is about 8 mm.

 Rear fender would end just short of rearmost portion of tire; in other
 words, it would be short so that I can shove the bike into a car without
 putting pressure on the rear fender. I measure 34" from chainstay bridge to
 the position on the tire where I'd like fender to end; note that this
 measurement is with tape lying on the tire itself; if the fender is ~1cm
 above, perhaps that would add additional length?

 Front would be long enough to bolt to the light mount/rack support
 arch. Distance from center of fork crown to 1" beyond arch is 11.5"; again,
 this is measured with tape lying on the tire.

 Overall length from arch to where I'd like it above ground is 32" --
 again, measured with tape lying on tire.

 What do you recommend for the best fit, flat or curved. Which is less
 likely to warp? I'm more interested in fit and durability than fancy finish
 or pattern.


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[RBW] Long vs Short Brake pads

[Michael Hechmer]

I have a new pair of new long orange pads on my Trek, but found they 
crowded the tire removal because they bumped up against the fork when 
opened.  I swapped them out for a shorter black pair from a TeKtro  and was 
not happy with the braking.  So, I wonder, how much of the difference is 
the length and how much is the compound?  I assume the carriers are 
different but haven't looked closely at that.

Michael

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[RBW] Re: Long vs Short Brake pads

[Garth]

I trimmed off the rear portion of the KS Eagle 2(smooth post , one 
piece molded style) Salmon pads and notice no difference in braking .  I've 
also noted no real difference between the KS black and salmon when dry, and 
maybe a marginal but nothing to write home about difference in the rain, 
but I don't ride alot in the rain !  

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[RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[Ryan Fleming]

Hmmm...interesting. BTW the brooks is a nice touch...the saddle would be 
the 1 thing I'd replace. Not that the stock one is crappy; I just find 
Brooks more comfortable. I think Riv did a really good thing here (no 
surprise)..great value at a decent price

*People know the price of everything and the value of nothing  - Oscar 
Wilde*

On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 1:17:43 PM UTC-5, El Sapo wrote:
>
> I feel like I'm sitting inside the bike. I was a little worried there for 
> a while. Got it adjusted. Best, most natural riding position I've ever 
> experienced. Like walking, but on a bike. It took me 20 miles to figure it 
> out. 
>
> That's the way it comes, everything but the Brooks seat came with the 
> bike. Grips and kickstand included. 
>
> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 9:04:03 AM UTC-7, Ryan Fleming wrote:
>
>> That's a nice-looking bike...blue's nice. How's the ride?
>>
>> On Friday, October 23, 2015 at 4:33:02 PM UTC-5, El Sapo wrote:
>>>
>>> Blue, different from the protos, not as dark. I'm liking it. The 
>>> ferrules are festive like Grant said they would be. 
>>
>>

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[RBW] FS: 61 Bleriot

[soqer...@gmail.com]

I am selling my 61 Bleriot.
I have have a scan of the original invoice with the parts, as well as pics 
I am happy to share.
I have ridden this maybe 500 miles. Degenerative discs (spine, not 
brakes) are keeping me off bikes.
When I had this built, I had a long discussion with Grant about hand 
positions, shifters, etc. 
Accordingly, this has a unique set up. There is a thumb shifter for the 
rear, and a bar end for the front, and a single interrupter brake also. I 
believe there was a write up in the Reader at one point - sort of has to be 
seen to be understood.
Some highlights:
 
1) Maxy Fasty tires (Fatty Rumpkins are included)
2) Pedals are flip-flop
3) Comes with grey Nigel Smythe bag and silver hoop
4) Topeak speedometer included
5) SKS fenders included
6) Brooks saddle cover included
 
$1,750. 
I will only sell in person in the Bay Area, and will meet within 5 miles of 
RBW.
Thanks
John
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[RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[Reid]

It came with the bull moose bars, too? Interesting.

Reid

On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 1:17:43 PM UTC-5, El Sapo wrote:
>>
>>
>> That's the way it comes, everything but the Brooks seat came with the 
>> bike. Grips and kickstand included. 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Marathon Supreme vs. Jack Brown Blue

[cyclotour...@gmail.com]

Hi John, the Supremes run pretty nice. A heavier/slower than JB Greens, but 
more puncture resistant. Not hugely though. I don't have any experience 
with JB Blues. 
Maybe run some Slime tubes for extra protection?

On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 10:32:56 AM UTC-7, john wrote:
>
> I'm a big fan of the Jack Brown Greens! I run them on my Hillborne. 
> However, they're now painfully thin, and I keep flatting. As the Hillborne 
> is now my commuter - as opposed to speedster - and I dislike flatting on 
> commutes, I'm considering which tires to replace them with.
>
> Are the Jack Blues noticeably better at preventing flats than the Greens? 
> And, how do they compare with the Marathon Supremes? Do the Supremes feel 
> heavy and sluggish, or do they ride okay? 
>
> Which would you choose for a commuter, one that you want to roll well?
>
> Thanks.
>

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[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Marathon Supreme vs. Jack Brown Blue

[dougP]

John:

I've used the Marathon Supremes for several years in both 35 & 40 mm size 
in thousands of miles of touring.  I hate flats, and they exceed their 
reputation for durability.  The best case was 11,000 miles on a front with 
zero flats (knock wood; probably lotsa luck there).  Typically only 1 or 2 
flats in the life of a tire, and usually at least 6,000 miles on a rear.  

No experience with either of Riv offerings but I did have the chance to 
ride some supple 38 mm tires that sold me on a set of Soma C-lines (another 
variation from Panaracer) when they came out.  The difference in ride & 
comfort was a pleasant surprise.  Flats did increase, and the rear wore out 
in about half the time of a Marathon Supreme.  

Were I commuting to work, and needing to show up on time & presentably 
clean, I'd go with the Schwalbes.  As to the ride quality, well, I never 
thought they were rough until I tried something lighter.  Now they feel 
"just OK".  

dougP

On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 10:32:56 AM UTC-7, john wrote:
>
> I'm a big fan of the Jack Brown Greens! I run them on my Hillborne. 
> However, they're now painfully thin, and I keep flatting. As the Hillborne 
> is now my commuter - as opposed to speedster - and I dislike flatting on 
> commutes, I'm considering which tires to replace them with.
>
> Are the Jack Blues noticeably better at preventing flats than the Greens? 
> And, how do they compare with the Marathon Supremes? Do the Supremes feel 
> heavy and sluggish, or do they ride okay? 
>
> Which would you choose for a commuter, one that you want to roll well?
>
> Thanks.
>

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[RBW] Re: Long vs Short Brake pads

[dougP]

Compound.  I had the same clearance problem with Koolstop one piece molded 
pads.  I just flipped them around so the long side faces forward & gained 
enough clearance to easily remove the front wheel.  Can't detect any 
difference in braking performance with V-brakes.  Do NOT try this with 
cartridge pads!

dougP

On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 11:38:43 AM UTC-7, Michael Hechmer wrote:
>
> I have a new pair of new long orange pads on my Trek, but found they 
> crowded the tire removal because they bumped up against the fork when 
> opened.  I swapped them out for a shorter black pair from a TeKtro  and was 
> not happy with the braking.  So, I wonder, how much of the difference is 
> the length and how much is the compound?  I assume the carriers are 
> different but haven't looked closely at that.
>
> Michael
>

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[RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[David Banzer]

I believe it comes with tig-welded Bosco bullmoose bars - functionally the 
same as what Riv sells individually, except not fillet brazed for the very 
smooth joint.
David
Chicago

On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 3:35:53 PM UTC-5, Reid wrote:
>
> It came with the bull moose bars, too? Interesting.
>
> Reid
>
> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 1:17:43 PM UTC-5, El Sapo wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> That's the way it comes, everything but the Brooks seat came with the 
>>> bike. Grips and kickstand included. 
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[David Banzer]

Anybody else get confirmation that there Clem/entine has shipped? Getting 
antsy as the weather's still nice here and I'd like to get my frameset 
built up asap. I ordered on the day after the presale was announced, so I'd 
assume that I'd be one of the first to have mine shipped.
David
Chicago

On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 4:44:32 PM UTC-5, David Banzer wrote:
>
> I believe it comes with tig-welded Bosco bullmoose bars - functionally the 
> same as what Riv sells individually, except not fillet brazed for the very 
> smooth joint.
> David
> Chicago
>
> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 3:35:53 PM UTC-5, Reid wrote:
>>
>> It came with the bull moose bars, too? Interesting.
>>
>> Reid
>>
>> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 1:17:43 PM UTC-5, El Sapo wrote:


 That's the way it comes, everything but the Brooks seat came with the 
 bike. Grips and kickstand included. 

>>>

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RE: [RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[Allingham II, Thomas J]

Me, too – I'm wondering if the folks (like me) who are getting frames only are 
at the back of the shipping line.

From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Banzer
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 5:46 PM
To: RBW Owners Bunch
Subject: [RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

Anybody else get confirmation that there Clem/entine has shipped? Getting antsy 
as the weather's still nice here and I'd like to get my frameset built up asap. 
I ordered on the day after the presale was announced, so I'd assume that I'd be 
one of the first to have mine shipped.
David
Chicago

On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 4:44:32 PM UTC-5, David Banzer wrote:
I believe it comes with tig-welded Bosco bullmoose bars - functionally the same 
as what Riv sells individually, except not fillet brazed for the very smooth 
joint.
David
Chicago

On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 3:35:53 PM UTC-5, Reid wrote:
It came with the bull moose bars, too? Interesting.

Reid
On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 1:17:43 PM UTC-5, El Sapo wrote:

That's the way it comes, everything but the Brooks seat came with the bike. 
Grips and kickstand included.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[Edwin W]

Just posted on the Blug:
http://rivbike.tumblr.com/
"For anyone in the initial Clem preorder (framesets), we’re shipping them 
out starting today. They look great. The earliest of adopters got an 
unexpected treat of creamed fork crowns. They look real nice. Here’s a 
phone video of how the rinko headset works. All you need is a big 
adjustable wrench. "
Supense is killing me...

On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 5:02:33 PM UTC-5, Pudge wrote:
>
> Me, too – I'm wondering if the folks (like me) who are getting frames only 
> are at the back of the shipping line.
>
>  
>
> *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com  [mailto:
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *David Banzer
> *Sent:* Monday, October 26, 2015 5:46 PM
> *To:* RBW Owners Bunch
> *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!
>
>  
>
> Anybody else get confirmation that there Clem/entine has shipped? Getting 
> antsy as the weather's still nice here and I'd like to get my frameset 
> built up asap. I ordered on the day after the presale was announced, so I'd 
> assume that I'd be one of the first to have mine shipped.
> David
> Chicago
>
> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 4:44:32 PM UTC-5, David Banzer wrote:
>
> I believe it comes with tig-welded Bosco bullmoose bars - functionally the 
> same as what Riv sells individually, except not fillet brazed for the very 
> smooth joint.
> David
> Chicago
>
> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 3:35:53 PM UTC-5, Reid wrote:
>
> It came with the bull moose bars, too? Interesting.
>
>  
>
> Reid
>
> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 1:17:43 PM UTC-5, El Sapo wrote:
>
>  
>
> That's the way it comes, everything but the Brooks seat came with the 
> bike. Grips and kickstand included. 
>
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[RBW] Re: FS Waterford T-14 64cm

[Ryan Ray]

Oh man. Making me wish i was quicker to the trigger. That color is perfect. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[David Banzer]

Edwin,
Thanks for that. They look nice.
To other frameset preorderers,
A seatpost is included, correct? I didn't happen to see one get pulled out 
of the box in that video. Not a biggie, just have everything else ready to 
go except that.
David
Chicago

On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 5:06:19 PM UTC-5, Edwin W wrote:
>
> Just posted on the Blug:
> http://rivbike.tumblr.com/
> "For anyone in the initial Clem preorder (framesets), we’re shipping them 
> out starting today. They look great. The earliest of adopters got an 
> unexpected treat of creamed fork crowns. They look real nice. Here’s a 
> phone video of how the rinko headset works. All you need is a big 
> adjustable wrench. "
> Supense is killing me...
>
> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 5:02:33 PM UTC-5, Pudge wrote:
>>
>> Me, too – I'm wondering if the folks (like me) who are getting frames 
>> only are at the back of the shipping line.
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com] 
>> *On Behalf Of *David Banzer
>> *Sent:* Monday, October 26, 2015 5:46 PM
>> *To:* RBW Owners Bunch
>> *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!
>>
>>  
>>
>> Anybody else get confirmation that there Clem/entine has shipped? Getting 
>> antsy as the weather's still nice here and I'd like to get my frameset 
>> built up asap. I ordered on the day after the presale was announced, so I'd 
>> assume that I'd be one of the first to have mine shipped.
>> David
>> Chicago
>>
>> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 4:44:32 PM UTC-5, David Banzer wrote:
>>
>> I believe it comes with tig-welded Bosco bullmoose bars - functionally 
>> the same as what Riv sells individually, except not fillet brazed for the 
>> very smooth joint.
>> David
>> Chicago
>>
>> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 3:35:53 PM UTC-5, Reid wrote:
>>
>> It came with the bull moose bars, too? Interesting.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Reid
>>
>> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 1:17:43 PM UTC-5, El Sapo wrote:
>>
>>  
>>
>> That's the way it comes, everything but the Brooks seat came with the 
>> bike. Grips and kickstand included. 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[Edwin W]

I think frame, fork, headset, bottom bracket AND seatpost are included. 
That is what I am banking on.

Edwin

On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 5:43:07 PM UTC-5, David Banzer wrote:
>
> Edwin,
> Thanks for that. They look nice.
> To other frameset preorderers,
> A seatpost is included, correct? I didn't happen to see one get pulled out 
> of the box in that video. Not a biggie, just have everything else ready to 
> go except that.
> David
> Chicago
>
> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 5:06:19 PM UTC-5, Edwin W wrote:
>>
>> Just posted on the Blug:
>> http://rivbike.tumblr.com/
>> "For anyone in the initial Clem preorder (framesets), we’re shipping 
>> them out starting today. They look great. The earliest of adopters got an 
>> unexpected treat of creamed fork crowns. They look real nice. Here’s a 
>> phone video of how the rinko headset works. All you need is a big 
>> adjustable wrench. "
>> Supense is killing me...
>>
>> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 5:02:33 PM UTC-5, Pudge wrote:
>>>
>>> Me, too – I'm wondering if the folks (like me) who are getting frames 
>>> only are at the back of the shipping line.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com [mailto:
>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *David Banzer
>>> *Sent:* Monday, October 26, 2015 5:46 PM
>>> *To:* RBW Owners Bunch
>>> *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Anybody else get confirmation that there Clem/entine has shipped? 
>>> Getting antsy as the weather's still nice here and I'd like to get my 
>>> frameset built up asap. I ordered on the day after the presale was 
>>> announced, so I'd assume that I'd be one of the first to have mine shipped.
>>> David
>>> Chicago
>>>
>>> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 4:44:32 PM UTC-5, David Banzer wrote:
>>>
>>> I believe it comes with tig-welded Bosco bullmoose bars - functionally 
>>> the same as what Riv sells individually, except not fillet brazed for the 
>>> very smooth joint.
>>> David
>>> Chicago
>>>
>>> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 3:35:53 PM UTC-5, Reid wrote:
>>>
>>> It came with the bull moose bars, too? Interesting.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Reid
>>>
>>> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 1:17:43 PM UTC-5, El Sapo wrote:
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> That's the way it comes, everything but the Brooks seat came with the 
>>> bike. Grips and kickstand included. 
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RE: [RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[Allingham II, Thomas J]

Creamed fork crowns look very nice.  Can't wait!

From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Edwin W
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 6:55 PM
To: RBW Owners Bunch
Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

I think frame, fork, headset, bottom bracket AND seatpost are included. That is 
what I am banking on.

Edwin

On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 5:43:07 PM UTC-5, David Banzer wrote:
Edwin,
Thanks for that. They look nice.
To other frameset preorderers,
A seatpost is included, correct? I didn't happen to see one get pulled out of 
the box in that video. Not a biggie, just have everything else ready to go 
except that.
David
Chicago

On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 5:06:19 PM UTC-5, Edwin W wrote:
Just posted on the Blug:
http://rivbike.tumblr.com/
"For anyone in the initial Clem preorder (framesets), we’re shipping them out 
starting today. They look great. The earliest of adopters got an unexpected 
treat of creamed fork crowns. They look real nice. Here’s a phone video of how 
the rinko headset works. All you need is a big adjustable wrench. "
Supense is killing me...

On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 5:02:33 PM UTC-5, Pudge wrote:
Me, too – I'm wondering if the folks (like me) who are getting frames only are 
at the back of the shipping line.

From: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Banzer
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 5:46 PM
To: RBW Owners Bunch
Subject: [RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

Anybody else get confirmation that there Clem/entine has shipped? Getting antsy 
as the weather's still nice here and I'd like to get my frameset built up asap. 
I ordered on the day after the presale was announced, so I'd assume that I'd be 
one of the first to have mine shipped.
David
Chicago

On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 4:44:32 PM UTC-5, David Banzer wrote:
I believe it comes with tig-welded Bosco bullmoose bars - functionally the same 
as what Riv sells individually, except not fillet brazed for the very smooth 
joint.
David
Chicago

On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 3:35:53 PM UTC-5, Reid wrote:
It came with the bull moose bars, too? Interesting.

Reid
On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 1:17:43 PM UTC-5, El Sapo wrote:

That's the way it comes, everything but the Brooks seat came with the bike. 
Grips and kickstand included.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[Zed Martinez]

I called last week and asked and Kevin checked and said the headset, bottom 
bracket, and seat post were all still included. So, they should be.

On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 6:43:07 PM UTC-4, David Banzer wrote:
>
> Edwin,
> Thanks for that. They look nice.
> To other frameset preorderers,
> A seatpost is included, correct? I didn't happen to see one get pulled out 
> of the box in that video. Not a biggie, just have everything else ready to 
> go except that.
> David
> Chicago
>
> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 5:06:19 PM UTC-5, Edwin W wrote:
>>
>> Just posted on the Blug:
>> http://rivbike.tumblr.com/
>> "For anyone in the initial Clem preorder (framesets), we’re shipping 
>> them out starting today. They look great. The earliest of adopters got an 
>> unexpected treat of creamed fork crowns. They look real nice. Here’s a 
>> phone video of how the rinko headset works. All you need is a big 
>> adjustable wrench. "
>> Supense is killing me...
>>
>> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 5:02:33 PM UTC-5, Pudge wrote:
>>>
>>> Me, too – I'm wondering if the folks (like me) who are getting frames 
>>> only are at the back of the shipping line.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com [mailto:
>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *David Banzer
>>> *Sent:* Monday, October 26, 2015 5:46 PM
>>> *To:* RBW Owners Bunch
>>> *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Anybody else get confirmation that there Clem/entine has shipped? 
>>> Getting antsy as the weather's still nice here and I'd like to get my 
>>> frameset built up asap. I ordered on the day after the presale was 
>>> announced, so I'd assume that I'd be one of the first to have mine shipped.
>>> David
>>> Chicago
>>>
>>> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 4:44:32 PM UTC-5, David Banzer wrote:
>>>
>>> I believe it comes with tig-welded Bosco bullmoose bars - functionally 
>>> the same as what Riv sells individually, except not fillet brazed for the 
>>> very smooth joint.
>>> David
>>> Chicago
>>>
>>> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 3:35:53 PM UTC-5, Reid wrote:
>>>
>>> It came with the bull moose bars, too? Interesting.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Reid
>>>
>>> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 1:17:43 PM UTC-5, El Sapo wrote:
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> That's the way it comes, everything but the Brooks seat came with the 
>>> bike. Grips and kickstand included. 
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[David Banzer]

Very nice added bonus indeed. Looks like I have everything I need to build 
mine up, minus a few tiny things that I'll pick up at my LBS.
David
Chicago

On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 5:58:29 PM UTC-5, Pudge wrote:
>
> Creamed fork crowns look very nice.  Can't wait!
>
>  
>
> *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com  [mailto:
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *Edwin W
> *Sent:* Monday, October 26, 2015 6:55 PM
> *To:* RBW Owners Bunch
> *Subject:* Re: [RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!
>
>  
>
> I think frame, fork, headset, bottom bracket AND seatpost are included. 
> That is what I am banking on.
>
>  
>
> Edwin
>
> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 5:43:07 PM UTC-5, David Banzer wrote:
>
> Edwin,
> Thanks for that. They look nice.
> To other frameset preorderers,
> A seatpost is included, correct? I didn't happen to see one get pulled out 
> of the box in that video. Not a biggie, just have everything else ready to 
> go except that.
> David
> Chicago
>
> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 5:06:19 PM UTC-5, Edwin W wrote:
>
> Just posted on the Blug:
>
> http://rivbike.tumblr.com/
>
> "For anyone in the initial Clem preorder (framesets), we’re shipping them 
> out starting today. They look great. The earliest of adopters got an 
> unexpected treat of creamed fork crowns. They look real nice. Here’s a 
> phone video of how the rinko headset works. All you need is a big 
> adjustable wrench. "
>
> Supense is killing me...
>
> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 5:02:33 PM UTC-5, Pudge wrote:
>
> Me, too – I'm wondering if the folks (like me) who are getting frames only 
> are at the back of the shipping line.
>
>  
>
> *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com] 
> *On Behalf Of *David Banzer
> *Sent:* Monday, October 26, 2015 5:46 PM
> *To:* RBW Owners Bunch
> *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!
>
>  
>
> Anybody else get confirmation that there Clem/entine has shipped? Getting 
> antsy as the weather's still nice here and I'd like to get my frameset 
> built up asap. I ordered on the day after the presale was announced, so I'd 
> assume that I'd be one of the first to have mine shipped.
> David
> Chicago
>
> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 4:44:32 PM UTC-5, David Banzer wrote:
>
> I believe it comes with tig-welded Bosco bullmoose bars - functionally the 
> same as what Riv sells individually, except not fillet brazed for the very 
> smooth joint.
> David
> Chicago
>
> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 3:35:53 PM UTC-5, Reid wrote:
>
> It came with the bull moose bars, too? Interesting.
>
>  
>
> Reid
>
> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 1:17:43 PM UTC-5, El Sapo wrote:
>
>  
>
> That's the way it comes, everything but the Brooks seat came with the 
> bike. Grips and kickstand included. 
>
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[RBW] Re: Long vs Short Brake pads

[Ron Mc]

extreme to go from long KoolStop to short Tektro.  Best braking I've ever 
had are KoolStop thinlines.  Next best is Kool Stop Dura cartridge pads 
(they self align and self toe wonderfully if you install per directions).  

On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 1:38:43 PM UTC-5, Michael Hechmer wrote:
>
> I have a new pair of new long orange pads on my Trek, but found they 
> crowded the tire removal because they bumped up against the fork when 
> opened.  I swapped them out for a shorter black pair from a TeKtro  and was 
> not happy with the braking.  So, I wonder, how much of the difference is 
> the length and how much is the compound?  I assume the carriers are 
> different but haven't looked closely at that.
>
> Michael
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Re: [RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[Wayne Naha]

The creamed forks are tres cool.  Maybe my fork will get a touch up.

On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 6:58:29 PM UTC-4, Pudge wrote:
>
> Creamed fork crowns look very nice.  Can't wait!
>
>  
>
> *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com  [mailto:
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *Edwin W
> *Sent:* Monday, October 26, 2015 6:55 PM
> *To:* RBW Owners Bunch
> *Subject:* Re: [RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!
>
>  
>
> I think frame, fork, headset, bottom bracket AND seatpost are included. 
> That is what I am banking on.
>
>  
>
> Edwin
>
> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 5:43:07 PM UTC-5, David Banzer wrote:
>
> Edwin,
> Thanks for that. They look nice.
> To other frameset preorderers,
> A seatpost is included, correct? I didn't happen to see one get pulled out 
> of the box in that video. Not a biggie, just have everything else ready to 
> go except that.
> David
> Chicago
>
> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 5:06:19 PM UTC-5, Edwin W wrote:
>
> Just posted on the Blug:
>
> http://rivbike.tumblr.com/
>
> "For anyone in the initial Clem preorder (framesets), we’re shipping them 
> out starting today. They look great. The earliest of adopters got an 
> unexpected treat of creamed fork crowns. They look real nice. Here’s a 
> phone video of how the rinko headset works. All you need is a big 
> adjustable wrench. "
>
> Supense is killing me...
>
> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 5:02:33 PM UTC-5, Pudge wrote:
>
> Me, too – I'm wondering if the folks (like me) who are getting frames only 
> are at the back of the shipping line.
>
>  
>
> *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com] 
> *On Behalf Of *David Banzer
> *Sent:* Monday, October 26, 2015 5:46 PM
> *To:* RBW Owners Bunch
> *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!
>
>  
>
> Anybody else get confirmation that there Clem/entine has shipped? Getting 
> antsy as the weather's still nice here and I'd like to get my frameset 
> built up asap. I ordered on the day after the presale was announced, so I'd 
> assume that I'd be one of the first to have mine shipped.
> David
> Chicago
>
> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 4:44:32 PM UTC-5, David Banzer wrote:
>
> I believe it comes with tig-welded Bosco bullmoose bars - functionally the 
> same as what Riv sells individually, except not fillet brazed for the very 
> smooth joint.
> David
> Chicago
>
> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 3:35:53 PM UTC-5, Reid wrote:
>
> It came with the bull moose bars, too? Interesting.
>
>  
>
> Reid
>
> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 1:17:43 PM UTC-5, El Sapo wrote:
>
>  
>
> That's the way it comes, everything but the Brooks seat came with the 
> bike. Grips and kickstand included. 
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[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Marathon Supreme vs. Jack Brown Blue

[Ron Mc]

No offense David, taking exception on the rolling.  The marathon supremes 
are some of the fastest-rolling big tires out there.  The Jack Browns ride 
much nicer, but don't roll quite as well.  
My experience with Kevlar belts is they don't prevent any more flats, but 
they slow them down - it takes longer for the bits of glass to get to the 
tube (possibly weeks)

On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 4:29:08 PM UTC-5, dougP wrote:
>
> John:
>
> I've used the Marathon Supremes for several years in both 35 & 40 mm size 
> in thousands of miles of touring.  I hate flats, and they exceed their 
> reputation for durability.  The best case was 11,000 miles on a front with 
> zero flats (knock wood; probably lotsa luck there).  Typically only 1 or 2 
> flats in the life of a tire, and usually at least 6,000 miles on a rear.  
>
> No experience with either of Riv offerings but I did have the chance to 
> ride some supple 38 mm tires that sold me on a set of Soma C-lines (another 
> variation from Panaracer) when they came out.  The difference in ride & 
> comfort was a pleasant surprise.  Flats did increase, and the rear wore out 
> in about half the time of a Marathon Supreme.  
>
> Were I commuting to work, and needing to show up on time & presentably 
> clean, I'd go with the Schwalbes.  As to the ride quality, well, I never 
> thought they were rough until I tried something lighter.  Now they feel 
> "just OK".  
>
> dougP
>
> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 10:32:56 AM UTC-7, john wrote:
>>
>> I'm a big fan of the Jack Brown Greens! I run them on my Hillborne. 
>> However, they're now painfully thin, and I keep flatting. As the Hillborne 
>> is now my commuter - as opposed to speedster - and I dislike flatting on 
>> commutes, I'm considering which tires to replace them with.
>>
>> Are the Jack Blues noticeably better at preventing flats than the Greens? 
>> And, how do they compare with the Marathon Supremes? Do the Supremes feel 
>> heavy and sluggish, or do they ride okay? 
>>
>> Which would you choose for a commuter, one that you want to roll well?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>

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[RBW] FS: nitto big back rack lg.

[drew]

Used it for less than a year and it only ever supported a saddlebag, so I'm 
downsizing rear racks. 
185$ shipped?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Schwalbe Marathon Supreme vs. Jack Brown Blue

[cyclotourist]

None taken! :-)

On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 5:01 PM, Ron Mc  wrote:

> No offense David, taking exception on the rolling.  The marathon supremes
> are some of the fastest-rolling big tires out there.  The Jack Browns ride
> much nicer, but don't roll quite as well.
> My experience with Kevlar belts is they don't prevent any more flats, but
> they slow them down - it takes longer for the bits of glass to get to the
> tube (possibly weeks)
>
>
> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 4:29:08 PM UTC-5, dougP wrote:
>>
>> John:
>>
>> I've used the Marathon Supremes for several years in both 35 & 40 mm size
>> in thousands of miles of touring.  I hate flats, and they exceed their
>> reputation for durability.  The best case was 11,000 miles on a front with
>> zero flats (knock wood; probably lotsa luck there).  Typically only 1 or 2
>> flats in the life of a tire, and usually at least 6,000 miles on a rear.
>>
>> No experience with either of Riv offerings but I did have the chance to
>> ride some supple 38 mm tires that sold me on a set of Soma C-lines (another
>> variation from Panaracer) when they came out.  The difference in ride &
>> comfort was a pleasant surprise.  Flats did increase, and the rear wore out
>> in about half the time of a Marathon Supreme.
>>
>> Were I commuting to work, and needing to show up on time & presentably
>> clean, I'd go with the Schwalbes.  As to the ride quality, well, I never
>> thought they were rough until I tried something lighter.  Now they feel
>> "just OK".
>>
>> dougP
>>
>> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 10:32:56 AM UTC-7, john wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm a big fan of the Jack Brown Greens! I run them on my Hillborne.
>>> However, they're now painfully thin, and I keep flatting. As the Hillborne
>>> is now my commuter - as opposed to speedster - and I dislike flatting on
>>> commutes, I'm considering which tires to replace them with.
>>>
>>> Are the Jack Blues noticeably better at preventing flats than the
>>> Greens? And, how do they compare with the Marathon Supremes? Do the
>>> Supremes feel heavy and sluggish, or do they ride okay?
>>>
>>> Which would you choose for a commuter, one that you want to roll well?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Marathon Supreme vs. Jack Brown Blue

[dougP]

" it takes longer for the bits of glass to get to the tube (possibly weeks)"

That reminds me of a "commuting tip" I read somewhere long ago.  Assuming 
weekly maintenance (chain, air pressure, etc.) an item on the list was to 
carefully inspect the tires for glass, staples, etc., all the crap that 
gets in there to eventually work its way thru to the tube.  PITA but less 
trouble than changing tubes on the way to work.  Especially if you can't 
find what cause the problem.

dougP

it takes longer for the bits of glass to get to the tube (possibly weeks)

On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 5:01:34 PM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote:
>
> No offense David, taking exception on the rolling.  The marathon supremes 
> are some of the fastest-rolling big tires out there.  The Jack Browns ride 
> much nicer, but don't roll quite as well.  
> My experience with Kevlar belts is they don't prevent any more flats, but 
> they slow them down - it takes longer for the bits of glass to get to the 
> tube (possibly weeks)
>
> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 4:29:08 PM UTC-5, dougP wrote:
>>
>> John:
>>
>> I've used the Marathon Supremes for several years in both 35 & 40 mm size 
>> in thousands of miles of touring.  I hate flats, and they exceed their 
>> reputation for durability.  The best case was 11,000 miles on a front with 
>> zero flats (knock wood; probably lotsa luck there).  Typically only 1 or 2 
>> flats in the life of a tire, and usually at least 6,000 miles on a rear.  
>>
>> No experience with either of Riv offerings but I did have the chance to 
>> ride some supple 38 mm tires that sold me on a set of Soma C-lines (another 
>> variation from Panaracer) when they came out.  The difference in ride & 
>> comfort was a pleasant surprise.  Flats did increase, and the rear wore out 
>> in about half the time of a Marathon Supreme.  
>>
>> Were I commuting to work, and needing to show up on time & presentably 
>> clean, I'd go with the Schwalbes.  As to the ride quality, well, I never 
>> thought they were rough until I tried something lighter.  Now they feel 
>> "just OK".  
>>
>> dougP
>>
>> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 10:32:56 AM UTC-7, john wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm a big fan of the Jack Brown Greens! I run them on my Hillborne. 
>>> However, they're now painfully thin, and I keep flatting. As the Hillborne 
>>> is now my commuter - as opposed to speedster - and I dislike flatting on 
>>> commutes, I'm considering which tires to replace them with.
>>>
>>> Are the Jack Blues noticeably better at preventing flats than the 
>>> Greens? And, how do they compare with the Marathon Supremes? Do the 
>>> Supremes feel heavy and sluggish, or do they ride okay? 
>>>
>>> Which would you choose for a commuter, one that you want to roll well?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Marathon Supreme vs. Jack Brown Blue

[Ron Mc]

When I know I've been over "glassy" roads, I put the bike on the repair 
stand and take a shop vac brush to the tires.  

On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 7:56:41 PM UTC-5, dougP wrote:
>
> " it takes longer for the bits of glass to get to the tube (possibly 
> weeks)"
>
> That reminds me of a "commuting tip" I read somewhere long ago.  Assuming 
> weekly maintenance (chain, air pressure, etc.) an item on the list was to 
> carefully inspect the tires for glass, staples, etc., all the crap that 
> gets in there to eventually work its way thru to the tube.  PITA but less 
> trouble than changing tubes on the way to work.  Especially if you can't 
> find what cause the problem.
>
> dougP
>
> it takes longer for the bits of glass to get to the tube (possibly weeks)
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Very nice. What is your inseam/saddle height, if you don't mind? What size 
bikes do you normally ride?

On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 2:17:43 PM UTC-4, El Sapo wrote:
>
> I feel like I'm sitting inside the bike. I was a little worried there for 
> a while. Got it adjusted. Best, most natural riding position I've ever 
> experienced. Like walking, but on a bike. It took me 20 miles to figure it 
> out. 
>
> That's the way it comes, everything but the Brooks seat came with the 
> bike. Grips and kickstand included. 
>
> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 9:04:03 AM UTC-7, Ryan Fleming wrote:
>
>> That's a nice-looking bike...blue's nice. How's the ride?
>>
>> On Friday, October 23, 2015 at 4:33:02 PM UTC-5, El Sapo wrote:
>>>
>>> Blue, different from the protos, not as dark. I'm liking it. The 
>>> ferrules are festive like Grant said they would be. 
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] I finally bought a Rivendell -- Cheviot!

[Lynne Cooney]

Thanks, Chris! I'm even more jealous of your AHH now.

On Sunday, October 25, 2015 at 11:28:47 AM UTC-7, Chris Chen wrote:
>
> Fantastic! I love the Orange.
>
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 10:51 PM, Lynne Cooney  > wrote:
>
>> Five years after almost buying a Betty Foy, but opting for a Retrovelo 
>> instead (and I do like my Retrovelo better than the Betty Foy), I rode home 
>> on this Cheviot today.
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/69421720@N02/22411754631/in/dateposted/
>>
>> Next up: an Atlantis. I like rigid mountain bikes, but I'm old and slow 
>> and was hit by a car a few years ago. I don't actually want to do any 
>> mountain biking or go fast. I just like to ride bikes to get around.
>>
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[RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[Lungimsam]

Wow!! Eyelets all over the place... Massive fender and tire clearance... Rinko 
headset!!!

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[RBW] Racks for the Clem

[Tim Wood]

As the shipping date for my Clem draws nearer I am at an impasse with regard to 
accessories. I'm pretty sure the Sks B65 fenders are the way to go, and a front 
mounted wald basket is mandatory, but racks are still a question mark. I have a 
Tubus Tara front low rider laying around but it's black and I want to stick to 
a silver theme. Right now the front rack choices I'm tossing around are:

-surly nice rack (can mount the basket and tons o'pannier)
-soma porteur deluxe (as above)
-a combination of the Tubus Tara for panniers and a Nitto m18/mark's rack for 
the basket
-the $30 soma front rack would get me rolling with a basket with less output 
but I question its strength. My basket needs to be able to tote at least 12 
cans of beer

For the rear I like the daija works or an axiom journey, or even a matching 
surly nice if I went that route on the front.  I also like the look of the 
sackville med bag so maybe I don't really need a spendy rear rack.

What should I do?  My rational side says wait till the bike gets here and feel 
it out, but part of me wants it ready to roll when it arrives. Bottom line, I 
should be riding more and searching the internet less

Advice is welcomed. 

-Tim

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[RBW] Re: WTT: 59 Clem, Blue for Grey

[iamkeith]

BUMP

Looks like frames are due to be all shipped out by the end of the day tomorrow 
(tuesday), so time is of the essence.  If anybody with a grey frame on order 
would like to swap for a previously-undisclosed, light-greyish, sam 
hillbourne-like blue, now is your chance!

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