No offense David, taking exception on the rolling.  The marathon supremes 
are some of the fastest-rolling big tires out there.  The Jack Browns ride 
much nicer, but don't roll quite as well.  
My experience with Kevlar belts is they don't prevent any more flats, but 
they slow them down - it takes longer for the bits of glass to get to the 
tube (possibly weeks)

On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 4:29:08 PM UTC-5, dougP wrote:
>
> John:
>
> I've used the Marathon Supremes for several years in both 35 & 40 mm size 
> in thousands of miles of touring.  I hate flats, and they exceed their 
> reputation for durability.  The best case was 11,000 miles on a front with 
> zero flats (knock wood; probably lotsa luck there).  Typically only 1 or 2 
> flats in the life of a tire, and usually at least 6,000 miles on a rear.  
>
> No experience with either of Riv offerings but I did have the chance to 
> ride some supple 38 mm tires that sold me on a set of Soma C-lines (another 
> variation from Panaracer) when they came out.  The difference in ride & 
> comfort was a pleasant surprise.  Flats did increase, and the rear wore out 
> in about half the time of a Marathon Supreme.  
>
> Were I commuting to work, and needing to show up on time & presentably 
> clean, I'd go with the Schwalbes.  As to the ride quality, well, I never 
> thought they were rough until I tried something lighter.  Now they feel 
> "just OK".  
>
> dougP
>
> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 10:32:56 AM UTC-7, john wrote:
>>
>> I'm a big fan of the Jack Brown Greens! I run them on my Hillborne. 
>> However, they're now painfully thin, and I keep flatting. As the Hillborne 
>> is now my commuter - as opposed to speedster - and I dislike flatting on 
>> commutes, I'm considering which tires to replace them with.
>>
>> Are the Jack Blues noticeably better at preventing flats than the Greens? 
>> And, how do they compare with the Marathon Supremes? Do the Supremes feel 
>> heavy and sluggish, or do they ride okay? 
>>
>> Which would you choose for a commuter, one that you want to roll well?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>

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