Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-26 Thread Gary Wood
Hi Jonathan!  That's exactly the reason I decided to go with Soundforge!
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Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 5:07 PM
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> Hi all, some interesting points in this thread. From my point of view, if
> you're willing to invest in the tool that gets the job done most
> efficiently, Sound Forge is so far ahead that Goldwave isn't even worth 
> your
> consideration. I say this because the reason Sound Forge became the 
> leading
> single track editor in the blind community is because of the way in which 
> it
> embraces standard Windows navigation and selection methods. So if you're a
> competent user of word processors like MS word, and you understand how to
> select text in regular Windows applications, your learning curve with 
> Sound
> Forge is minimised hugely. I would put Studio Recorder way ahead of 
> Goldwave
> and in some respects better than Sound Forge for certain tasks. For 
> example,
> the sound don sound feature in the latest Studio Recorder is incredibly 
> easy
> to use, yet powerful. It also attempts where possible to adhere to Windows
> standards. It's special accessibility features make it worthy of serious
> consideration, particularly if you don't require lots of special affects.
>
> For those constrained by limited time, selecting and manipulating sound in
> Sound Forge or Studio Recorder is vastly more efficient than Goldwave is.
>
> If money is a consideration, I would still recommend Sound Forge's cut 
> down
> version because of the superior adherence to Windows conventions, although
> Goldwave is definitely more feature rich than this version of Sound Forge.
> If you're not serious about sound editing and want something to play with,
> maybe Goldwave is sufficient. Sound Forge is used in many professional
> environments for a good reason. It's powerful. Perhaps it provides more
> power than some people need, but really, there's no comparison in terms of
> functionality and ease of use, and you may find yourself gaining more
> experience and find Goldwave constraining. So depending on your needs, I'd
> say Sound Forge and Studio Recorder are in a class of their own. Goldwave 
> is
> in a different class.
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gold wave can't move finish marker

2006-05-26 Thread HF
Any ideas, I cannot move the finish marker in either direction. I can 
though, move the start marker without a problem.
Is there a setting that I should be awhere of?

HF 


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Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-26 Thread Gary Schindler
I think you can get good broadcast quality from goldwave, but the program is 
awkward to work with when you are in a hurry.

- Original Message - 
From: "David Tanner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:07 AM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


>I guess I wouldn't be as concerned about how small a piece as I am things 
>like the equalizer, noise reduction, click and crackle features, 
>compression, and mixing choices.  But, that doesn't mean that my needs are 
>the same as everybody else on this list.  So, at the very least a person 
>should be compairing Goldwave to at least one other sound editor in a price 
>range that they can afford.  And, I would be willing to bet that Goldwave 
>will be fine for 80 percent or more of persons who are not concerned with 
>getting broadcast quality for every file they edit.
>
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 12:59 PM
> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>
>
> : With GW you can edit to within a thousandth of a second or finer. How 
> much
> : finer do you want than that?
> :
> : Bruce
> :
> : -- 
> : Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
> : gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
> :
> : Bruce Toews
> : E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> : Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net
> : Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net
> : Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
> :
> : On Thu, 25 May 2006, Gary Schindler wrote:
> :
> : > the only thing I wish that goldwave could do is to be a more precise 
> or
> : > finer editor. you can't beat soundforges editing capabilities at any 
> price.
> : >
> : > - Original Message -
> : > From: "Gary Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> : > To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> : > Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:29 AM
> : > Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
> : >
> : >
> : >> Some people say, "You get what you pay for!"  But actually, you have 
> to
> : >> take
> : >> a lot of things into consideration when purchasing a sound editor! 
> What
> : >> features and abilities you want with a sound editor, and also, what 
> you
> : >> can
> : >> afford!
> : >> - Original Message -
> : >> From: "Brian Olesen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> : >> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> : >> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 3:42 PM
> : >> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
> : >>
> : >>
> : >>> HI,
> : >>> But it's also pretty expensive.
> : >>>
> : >>> Best regards
> : >>> Brian
> : >>> - Original Message -
> : >>> From: "Gary Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> : >>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> : >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 5:38 PM
> : >>> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
> : >>>
> : >>>
> :  I think that from what I've heard so far, that Studio Recorder from 
> APH
> :  is
> :  also quite a program!
> :  - Original Message -
> :  From: "David Tanner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> :  To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> :  Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 12:59 AM
> :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
> : 
> : 
> : > I think that the individual needs to take a look at each, decide 
> what
> : > they
> : > really need to do, and after all that then make the decision on 
> how much
> : > they are willing to pay to get the editor that will do what they 
> need to
> : > do.  I really like SoundForge, but I do a lot of audio for radio
> : > programs,
> : > etc.  The person simply wanting to get records to MP3 and clean 
> the
> : > files
> : > up to make them sound good may decide that they don't need all the
> : > features
> : > of Soundforge, and that they can good enough quality with Goldwave 
> or
> : > Audasity or something else.
> : >
> : >
> : >
> : > - Original Message -
> : > From: "Chuck Adkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> : > To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> : > Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 3:06 AM
> : > Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
> : >
> : >
> : > : Hello. I prefer Sound Forge because of the scrubbing features it 
> has.
> : > I
> : > also
> : > : like the effects but don't get me wrong, Gold Wave is a very 
> good
> : > program.
> : > : For me Sound forge is a little bit more accessible. Of course, 
> Sound
> : > Forge
> : > : was the first editor I had experience with and that I think does
> : > color
> : > an
> : > : oppion sometimes. It's like finding a car though. You can find 6
> : > people
> : > who
> : > : like Fords and 6 people who like shevys. The best way is first, 
> can
> : > you
> : > : afford both programs in question and then second, download and 
> try
> : > out
> : > each
> : > : demo.
> : >

Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-26 Thread dennis
i get exilent braudcast quality with goldwave and find it to be just fine 
for working quickly. for example in an hours time i have done 30 imagers 
with sound efects and a few open and closers for football and baseball 
braudcasts for the espn radio station that i work for. there is a totorial 
at for the people in 10 parts that if you get it you will know the ins and 
outs of goldwave and be using it very fast in no time. he uses jaws and no 
scrips are needed.that really sold me on it.
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From: "Gary Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


>I think you can get good broadcast quality from goldwave, but the program 
>is
> awkward to work with when you are in a hurry.
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "David Tanner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:07 AM
> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>
>
>>I guess I wouldn't be as concerned about how small a piece as I am things
>>like the equalizer, noise reduction, click and crackle features,
>>compression, and mixing choices.  But, that doesn't mean that my needs are
>>the same as everybody else on this list.  So, at the very least a person
>>should be compairing Goldwave to at least one other sound editor in a 
>>price
>>range that they can afford.  And, I would be willing to bet that Goldwave
>>will be fine for 80 percent or more of persons who are not concerned with
>>getting broadcast quality for every file they edit.
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 12:59 PM
>> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>>
>>
>> : With GW you can edit to within a thousandth of a second or finer. How
>> much
>> : finer do you want than that?
>> :
>> : Bruce
>> :
>> : -- 
>> : Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
>> : gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
>> :
>> : Bruce Toews
>> : E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> : Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net
>> : Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): 
>> http://www.ogts.net
>> : Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
>> :
>> : On Thu, 25 May 2006, Gary Schindler wrote:
>> :
>> : > the only thing I wish that goldwave could do is to be a more precise
>> or
>> : > finer editor. you can't beat soundforges editing capabilities at any
>> price.
>> : >
>> : > - Original Message -
>> : > From: "Gary Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> : > To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> : > Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:29 AM
>> : > Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>> : >
>> : >
>> : >> Some people say, "You get what you pay for!"  But actually, you have
>> to
>> : >> take
>> : >> a lot of things into consideration when purchasing a sound editor!
>> What
>> : >> features and abilities you want with a sound editor, and also, what
>> you
>> : >> can
>> : >> afford!
>> : >> - Original Message -
>> : >> From: "Brian Olesen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> : >> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> : >> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 3:42 PM
>> : >> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>> : >>
>> : >>
>> : >>> HI,
>> : >>> But it's also pretty expensive.
>> : >>>
>> : >>> Best regards
>> : >>> Brian
>> : >>> - Original Message -
>> : >>> From: "Gary Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> : >>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> : >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 5:38 PM
>> : >>> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>> : >>>
>> : >>>
>> :  I think that from what I've heard so far, that Studio Recorder 
>> from
>> APH
>> :  is
>> :  also quite a program!
>> :  - Original Message -
>> :  From: "David Tanner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> :  To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> :  Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 12:59 AM
>> :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>> : 
>> : 
>> : > I think that the individual needs to take a look at each, decide
>> what
>> : > they
>> : > really need to do, and after all that then make the decision on
>> how much
>> : > they are willing to pay to get the editor that will do what they
>> need to
>> : > do.  I really like SoundForge, but I do a lot of audio for radio
>> : > programs,
>> : > etc.  The person simply wanting to get records to MP3 and clean
>> the
>> : > files
>> : > up to make them sound good may decide that they don't need all 
>> the
>> : > features
>> : > of Soundforge, and that they can good enough quality with 
>> Goldwave
>> or
>> : > Audasity or something else.
>> : >
>> : >
>> : >
>> : > - Original Message -
>> : > From: "Chuck Adkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> : > To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> : > Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 3:06 AM
>> : > Subject: Re: g

Re: broadcasting question

2006-05-26 Thread Bob Seed
Well that is certainly refreshing news to hear.
The thing is that blind audio editors take their craft seriously, and will 
take the time to listen to the inprofections in an audio bite and will take 
the necessary measures to make the right corrections. This particular field 
is a natural for us, as we depend so much on our hearing. Too bad that the 
commercial broadcasters are not willing to acknowledge our gifted abilities. 
I cringe when I hear music that for some reason just doesn't fit in with the 
flow.
 - 
From: "Chuck Adkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 11:15 PM
Subject: Re: broadcasting question


> Well, maybe so, I will never say never because never is a mighty long 
> time.
> But, When do you think they would install the speech and all that stuff.
> Very few, I say few engineers would want to take their main automation
> computer offline to not only just install the stuff, but test it. The 
> folks
> who mention small station are right on target. A radio Reading Service 
> isn't
> a bad way to get experience either. I think if I were to advise any young
> blind people going in to radio based on my 31 years of experience alone 
> and
> what I think I know about the changing industry, I would recommend talk
> radio, behind the scenes stuff, or production. Have a good voice thought 
> or
> you won't get pass the lobby. The only reason I've been able to do 
> anything
> in this industry is because somebody thought my voice could make them some
> money.
>
> Just some thoughts and they are just my thoughts. I certainly don't know
> everything. I'd love someone to prove me wrong. One thing I have noticed
> though. Whenever I could give someone a job, I always asked blind people I
> knew first. I hope that is a trend that is continuing. Also, if a Reading
> Service control room and entire operation can not be used by blind people,
> and if they don't have at least one blind person working on the job, or if
> they haven't made an attempt to hire a blind person, they should NOT GET 
> ANY
> federal or state money. We have all blind techs and are very proud of that
> fact.
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Brent Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 10:48 PM
> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>
>
>>I could see a braille display being of help, even if it's a referbed
>>braille
>> lite 20 or 40 bought from FS for around $1900. In that type of situation,
>> things could work all right as long as one got all the info that is
>> needed.
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Chuck Adkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 9:39 PM
>> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>>
>>
>>> You are so correct. I have a friend at our local adult sstation who 
>>> tells
>>> me
>>> when he has a shift, he goes in to the control room and has two buttons.
>>> One
>>> is the mic, and the other is marked "Next Event!" All of his scripts are
>>> on
>>> the screne as is his log, playlist, show, you name it. Not many stations
>>> use
>>> CD's anymore, and get their music from a music service or download a
>>> packagge from somewhere.
>>>
>>> There are some blind people doing operations work and behind the scene
>>> stuff, but I don't know of many on the air. I would like to hear from
>>> anybody using Audiovolt, and other stuff. I've used Enco on a limmited
>>> bassis, and it does work with Window-eyes right out of the box as do 
>>> many
>>> many things, including Sound Forge although the sets do help.
>>>
>>> Chuck
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 10:09 PM
>>> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>>>
>>>
 It is my understanding that the 1500 songs that most stations have on
 their
 rotating play list are downloaded from special websites that are set up
 by
 the record companies and are simply inserted into the daily play list,
 thus
 eliminating this particular function. At one time I was a music
 librarian
 for a Canadian public broadcaster. It was my job to order and catalogue
 all
 of the music into a national database with a number of different
 information
 fields to be filled in by the person doing the cataloguing. Back then 
 we
 had physical compact discs that we could actually hold in our hands.
 Today
 all of that music is on a hard drive. If you are an oldies station 
 there
 are
 companies that will actually send you a physical hard drive that is
 preloaded with any type of music that you desire. The  drive costs 
 about
 200-dollars. This is far less than actually going out to buy all of 
 that
 music. In most stations that I have visited in the past year or so, you
 would be hard pressed to find a compact disc

Re: broadcasting question

2006-05-26 Thread Bob Seed
I have only used Dallett, and that was simply a matter of blocking your edit 
and hitting the delete key, and that portion of the sound bite was gone. 
With Dallett you are given the option to reinsert the portion of the clip 
that was deleted.
- Original Message - 
From: "Brent Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 11:20 PM
Subject: Re: broadcasting question


> Oh, I thought that was the broadcast automation where you'd import the wav
> files or whatever from another editor into. I think the best interface is
> probably Studio Recorder from APH because it has the sound forge feel to 
> it
> with the brackets doing selecting and the ability to scrub ahead and such.
> It really doesn't take much to take out something and have it sound like 
> it
> was never there. The thing that it does that Goldwave doesn't, at least 
> from
> what I gather, is to give me a goto time function that I can just type in
> "+3:00" or whatever to go 3 minutes ahead or whatever I need to find the
> next place to delete or end the deletion or whatever.
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 10:03 PM
> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>
>
>> Blind people, in my view can play a tremendous role behind the scenes if
>> only given the chance. In mhy case I was labeled as one of the best audio
>> editors in the business. Keep in mind that in those days we had nothing
>> more
>> to work with than a greese pencil, audio tape and splicing tape. Today
>> working with any of the editing programs is a breeze. With the best of
>> physical editing we could never achieve the accuracy that electronic
>> editing
>> brings to this new age of technology. I have yet to play with some of
>> these
>> programs. My experience has only been with a program caalled Dallett.
>> Wit Dallett you can do just about anything that you can do with sound
>> forge
>> and gold wave. You don't want to go out and buy Dallett unless you have
>> very
>> deep pockets, and I mean deep pockets. .
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Chuck Adkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 10:39 PM
>> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>>
>>
>>> You are so correct. I have a friend at our local adult sstation who 
>>> tells
>>> me
>>> when he has a shift, he goes in to the control room and has two buttons.
>>> One
>>> is the mic, and the other is marked "Next Event!" All of his scripts are
>>> on
>>> the screne as is his log, playlist, show, you name it. Not many stations
>>> use
>>> CD's anymore, and get their music from a music service or download a
>>> packagge from somewhere.
>>>
>>> There are some blind people doing operations work and behind the scene
>>> stuff, but I don't know of many on the air. I would like to hear from
>>> anybody using Audiovolt, and other stuff. I've used Enco on a limmited
>>> bassis, and it does work with Window-eyes right out of the box as do 
>>> many
>>> many things, including Sound Forge although the sets do help.
>>>
>>> Chuck
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 10:09 PM
>>> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>>>
>>>
 It is my understanding that the 1500 songs that most stations have on
 their
 rotating play list are downloaded from special websites that are set up
 by
 the record companies and are simply inserted into the daily play list,
 thus
 eliminating this particular function. At one time I was a music
 librarian
 for a Canadian public broadcaster. It was my job to order and catalogue
 all
 of the music into a national database with a number of different
 information
 fields to be filled in by the person doing the cataloguing. Back then 
 we
 had physical compact discs that we could actually hold in our hands.
 Today
 all of that music is on a hard drive. If you are an oldies station 
 there
 are
 companies that will actually send you a physical hard drive that is
 preloaded with any type of music that you desire. The  drive costs 
 about
 200-dollars. This is far less than actually going out to buy all of 
 that
 music. In most stations that I have visited in the past year or so, you
 would be hard pressed to find a compact disc fullof music. The most
 recent
 station that I visited was nothing more than a computer, a small 
 control
 board, and a 125 watt transmitter that was about the size of an average
 toaster. I have also worked at stations that had a transmitter that was
 about the size of a house and was water cooled. Believe me I have been
 there and done that. All that I can say is that one has to be nuts to 
 be
 in
 this business. You either love it o

Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-26 Thread Jim Noseworthy
Hi Folks:

Well! This has indeed been an interesting thread.  Perhaps it would be a 
good idea if someone, who is well versed in sound editing, could give a 
side-bi-side comparison, emphasizing the strengths similarities, and 
weaknesses of both editors. This is especially important for those who have 
not yet formed a bias to one or the other programs. In otherwards, let's get 
the facts. I would also recommend that the work be accomplished without the 
use of script or set files as this would most certainly affect the outcome. 
SF has had a lot of work done on Scripts over the years: both free and 
comercial scripts. Now it may be, that one or the other programs is better 
suited for scripting or creating set files. This too is a very important 
item for consideration and certainly may be a factor in determining which 
editor one should purchase. It is, however, important to distinguish between 
the off-the-shelf capabilities of the editor it self as apposed to the 
addition of Script or Set files.

Thanks all over the place for listening.


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Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-26 Thread Larry N
I have to agree with Bruce here.  If you're comfortable with it, then it's 
the best software for you. I own both GoldWave and DC6, both of which work 
well with screen readers. I use both professionally and together,they work 
fine for what I need at a lower cost than Sound Forge. . Sound Forge is also 
an excellent program. No argument here. But the thing is that it performs 
tasks that I'll never need, which give it a price tag that does not interst 
me. . I would not suggest a contest between GoldWave and Sound Forge, as I 
respect the merrits of both. Rather I would suggest that consumers approach 
the process as they would any other purchase. Determine your needs, decide 
which software package would best meet them and buy it.  Personally, I don't 
purchase any software that I can't try before buying.  I've been burned 
before and won't be again. My last suggestion would be that anyone 
considering an audio editor might want to think about giving DC6 a try. They 
have a demo that let's you try all aspects of the program before purchasing 
it. You just can't save anything in demo mode.  Jus my 2 cents.

Larry
- Original Message - 
From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 6:16 PM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


> No artument there. My argument isn't about the lack of merit of Sound
> Forge. Jonathan was saying that anyone who is at all semi-serious about
> audio editing shouldn't even give Gold Wave a second though, and it is
> with this point that I respectuflly disagree. I've said all along go with
> what you're most comfortable witha dn what works for you.
>
> Bruce
>
> -- 
> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
> gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
>
> Bruce Toews
> E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net
> Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net
> Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
>
> On Thu, 25 May 2006, Mac Norins wrote:
>
>> But, if we are not comfortable with Goldwave and we are comfortable with
>> Soundforge, then exploring another new way to go, such as Gold 
>> Wave,seems,
>> frankly, like an exercise in futility!  Not to extend this thread, by any
>> means (groan)!
>>
>> -Mac-
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:17 PM
>> Subject: RE: gold wave vs sound forge
>>
>>
>> I disagree strongly with your contention that Gold Wave can't be
>> considered for serious sound editing. It has beenby many, and still is by
>> many. I do all my audio editing with Gold Wave, and while I'm no
>> professional recording studio, I'm no slouch at the concept either, and
>> there are people who are much more professional than I with recording who
>> will agree. I'm not denying the superiority of Sound Forge as a sound
>> editor, but if you're comfortable with Gold Wave's interface, as I am,
>> then the power is there.
>>
>> bruce
>>
>>
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Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-26 Thread dennis
whare can i get dc6. i would like to take a look at it.
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From: "Larry N" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


>I have to agree with Bruce here.  If you're comfortable with it, then it's
> the best software for you. I own both GoldWave and DC6, both of which work
> well with screen readers. I use both professionally and together,they work
> fine for what I need at a lower cost than Sound Forge. . Sound Forge is 
> also
> an excellent program. No argument here. But the thing is that it performs
> tasks that I'll never need, which give it a price tag that does not 
> interst
> me. . I would not suggest a contest between GoldWave and Sound Forge, as I
> respect the merrits of both. Rather I would suggest that consumers 
> approach
> the process as they would any other purchase. Determine your needs, decide
> which software package would best meet them and buy it.  Personally, I 
> don't
> purchase any software that I can't try before buying.  I've been burned
> before and won't be again. My last suggestion would be that anyone
> considering an audio editor might want to think about giving DC6 a try. 
> They
> have a demo that let's you try all aspects of the program before 
> purchasing
> it. You just can't save anything in demo mode.  Jus my 2 cents.
>
> Larry
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 6:16 PM
> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>
>
>> No artument there. My argument isn't about the lack of merit of Sound
>> Forge. Jonathan was saying that anyone who is at all semi-serious about
>> audio editing shouldn't even give Gold Wave a second though, and it is
>> with this point that I respectuflly disagree. I've said all along go with
>> what you're most comfortable witha dn what works for you.
>>
>> Bruce
>>
>> -- 
>> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
>> gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
>>
>> Bruce Toews
>> E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net
>> Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net
>> Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
>>
>> On Thu, 25 May 2006, Mac Norins wrote:
>>
>>> But, if we are not comfortable with Goldwave and we are comfortable with
>>> Soundforge, then exploring another new way to go, such as Gold
>>> Wave,seems,
>>> frankly, like an exercise in futility!  Not to extend this thread, by 
>>> any
>>> means (groan)!
>>>
>>> -Mac-
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:17 PM
>>> Subject: RE: gold wave vs sound forge
>>>
>>>
>>> I disagree strongly with your contention that Gold Wave can't be
>>> considered for serious sound editing. It has beenby many, and still is 
>>> by
>>> many. I do all my audio editing with Gold Wave, and while I'm no
>>> professional recording studio, I'm no slouch at the concept either, and
>>> there are people who are much more professional than I with recording 
>>> who
>>> will agree. I'm not denying the superiority of Sound Forge as a sound
>>> editor, but if you're comfortable with Gold Wave's interface, as I am,
>>> then the power is there.
>>>
>>> bruce
>>>
>>>
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Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-26 Thread Gary Schindler
If I recall, DC6 wasn't good enough for editing at all, and if I am going to 
spend $200.00 for an editor, I'll buy Soundforge thank you. I think goldwave 
has in some respects better noise reduction than DC6. all the programs have 
good and bad points respectively.

- Original Message - 
From: "Larry N" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


>I have to agree with Bruce here.  If you're comfortable with it, then it's
> the best software for you. I own both GoldWave and DC6, both of which work
> well with screen readers. I use both professionally and together,they work
> fine for what I need at a lower cost than Sound Forge. . Sound Forge is 
> also
> an excellent program. No argument here. But the thing is that it performs
> tasks that I'll never need, which give it a price tag that does not 
> interst
> me. . I would not suggest a contest between GoldWave and Sound Forge, as I
> respect the merrits of both. Rather I would suggest that consumers 
> approach
> the process as they would any other purchase. Determine your needs, decide
> which software package would best meet them and buy it.  Personally, I 
> don't
> purchase any software that I can't try before buying.  I've been burned
> before and won't be again. My last suggestion would be that anyone
> considering an audio editor might want to think about giving DC6 a try. 
> They
> have a demo that let's you try all aspects of the program before 
> purchasing
> it. You just can't save anything in demo mode.  Jus my 2 cents.
>
> Larry
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 6:16 PM
> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>
>
>> No artument there. My argument isn't about the lack of merit of Sound
>> Forge. Jonathan was saying that anyone who is at all semi-serious about
>> audio editing shouldn't even give Gold Wave a second though, and it is
>> with this point that I respectuflly disagree. I've said all along go with
>> what you're most comfortable witha dn what works for you.
>>
>> Bruce
>>
>> -- 
>> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
>> gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
>>
>> Bruce Toews
>> E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net
>> Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net
>> Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
>>
>> On Thu, 25 May 2006, Mac Norins wrote:
>>
>>> But, if we are not comfortable with Goldwave and we are comfortable with
>>> Soundforge, then exploring another new way to go, such as Gold
>>> Wave,seems,
>>> frankly, like an exercise in futility!  Not to extend this thread, by 
>>> any
>>> means (groan)!
>>>
>>> -Mac-
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:17 PM
>>> Subject: RE: gold wave vs sound forge
>>>
>>>
>>> I disagree strongly with your contention that Gold Wave can't be
>>> considered for serious sound editing. It has beenby many, and still is 
>>> by
>>> many. I do all my audio editing with Gold Wave, and while I'm no
>>> professional recording studio, I'm no slouch at the concept either, and
>>> there are people who are much more professional than I with recording 
>>> who
>>> will agree. I'm not denying the superiority of Sound Forge as a sound
>>> editor, but if you're comfortable with Gold Wave's interface, as I am,
>>> then the power is there.
>>>
>>> bruce
>>>
>>>
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Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-26 Thread Larry N
Hi Dennis. You can read about DC6 and access its demo from here.
http://www.diamondcut.com/Catalog/DC6.htm

Larry

- Original Message - 
From: "dennis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 11:07 AM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


> whare can i get dc6. i would like to take a look at it.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Larry N" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 9:49 AM
> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>
>
>>I have to agree with Bruce here.  If you're comfortable with it, then it's
>> the best software for you. I own both GoldWave and DC6, both of which 
>> work
>> well with screen readers. I use both professionally and together,they 
>> work
>> fine for what I need at a lower cost than Sound Forge. . Sound Forge is
>> also
>> an excellent program. No argument here. But the thing is that it performs
>> tasks that I'll never need, which give it a price tag that does not
>> interst
>> me. . I would not suggest a contest between GoldWave and Sound Forge, as 
>> I
>> respect the merrits of both. Rather I would suggest that consumers
>> approach
>> the process as they would any other purchase. Determine your needs, 
>> decide
>> which software package would best meet them and buy it.  Personally, I
>> don't
>> purchase any software that I can't try before buying.  I've been burned
>> before and won't be again. My last suggestion would be that anyone
>> considering an audio editor might want to think about giving DC6 a try.
>> They
>> have a demo that let's you try all aspects of the program before
>> purchasing
>> it. You just can't save anything in demo mode.  Jus my 2 cents.
>>
>> Larry
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 6:16 PM
>> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>>
>>
>>> No artument there. My argument isn't about the lack of merit of Sound
>>> Forge. Jonathan was saying that anyone who is at all semi-serious about
>>> audio editing shouldn't even give Gold Wave a second though, and it is
>>> with this point that I respectuflly disagree. I've said all along go 
>>> with
>>> what you're most comfortable witha dn what works for you.
>>>
>>> Bruce
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
>>> gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
>>>
>>> Bruce Toews
>>> E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net
>>> Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net
>>> Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
>>>
>>> On Thu, 25 May 2006, Mac Norins wrote:
>>>
 But, if we are not comfortable with Goldwave and we are comfortable 
 with
 Soundforge, then exploring another new way to go, such as Gold
 Wave,seems,
 frankly, like an exercise in futility!  Not to extend this thread, by
 any
 means (groan)!

 -Mac-
 - Original Message -
 From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:17 PM
 Subject: RE: gold wave vs sound forge


 I disagree strongly with your contention that Gold Wave can't be
 considered for serious sound editing. It has beenby many, and still is
 by
 many. I do all my audio editing with Gold Wave, and while I'm no
 professional recording studio, I'm no slouch at the concept either, and
 there are people who are much more professional than I with recording
 who
 will agree. I'm not denying the superiority of Sound Forge as a sound
 editor, but if you're comfortable with Gold Wave's interface, as I am,
 then the power is there.

 bruce


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Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-26 Thread Larry N
If DC6 didn't work for you, then by all means don't use it.  The same 
applies to any software I believe.

Cheers,

Larry

- Original Message - 
From: "Gary Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


> If I recall, DC6 wasn't good enough for editing at all, and if I am going 
> to
> spend $200.00 for an editor, I'll buy Soundforge thank you. I think 
> goldwave
> has in some respects better noise reduction than DC6. all the programs 
> have
> good and bad points respectively.
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Larry N" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 10:49 AM
> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>
>
>>I have to agree with Bruce here.  If you're comfortable with it, then it's
>> the best software for you. I own both GoldWave and DC6, both of which 
>> work
>> well with screen readers. I use both professionally and together,they 
>> work
>> fine for what I need at a lower cost than Sound Forge. . Sound Forge is
>> also
>> an excellent program. No argument here. But the thing is that it performs
>> tasks that I'll never need, which give it a price tag that does not
>> interst
>> me. . I would not suggest a contest between GoldWave and Sound Forge, as 
>> I
>> respect the merrits of both. Rather I would suggest that consumers
>> approach
>> the process as they would any other purchase. Determine your needs, 
>> decide
>> which software package would best meet them and buy it.  Personally, I
>> don't
>> purchase any software that I can't try before buying.  I've been burned
>> before and won't be again. My last suggestion would be that anyone
>> considering an audio editor might want to think about giving DC6 a try.
>> They
>> have a demo that let's you try all aspects of the program before
>> purchasing
>> it. You just can't save anything in demo mode.  Jus my 2 cents.
>>
>> Larry
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 6:16 PM
>> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>>
>>
>>> No artument there. My argument isn't about the lack of merit of Sound
>>> Forge. Jonathan was saying that anyone who is at all semi-serious about
>>> audio editing shouldn't even give Gold Wave a second though, and it is
>>> with this point that I respectuflly disagree. I've said all along go 
>>> with
>>> what you're most comfortable witha dn what works for you.
>>>
>>> Bruce
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
>>> gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
>>>
>>> Bruce Toews
>>> E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net
>>> Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net
>>> Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
>>>
>>> On Thu, 25 May 2006, Mac Norins wrote:
>>>
 But, if we are not comfortable with Goldwave and we are comfortable 
 with
 Soundforge, then exploring another new way to go, such as Gold
 Wave,seems,
 frankly, like an exercise in futility!  Not to extend this thread, by
 any
 means (groan)!

 -Mac-
 - Original Message -
 From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:17 PM
 Subject: RE: gold wave vs sound forge


 I disagree strongly with your contention that Gold Wave can't be
 considered for serious sound editing. It has beenby many, and still is
 by
 many. I do all my audio editing with Gold Wave, and while I'm no
 professional recording studio, I'm no slouch at the concept either, and
 there are people who are much more professional than I with recording
 who
 will agree. I'm not denying the superiority of Sound Forge as a sound
 editor, but if you're comfortable with Gold Wave's interface, as I am,
 then the power is there.

 bruce


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Re: broadcasting question

2006-05-26 Thread Terese Ann Goren
that would be my response as well
At 05:34 PM 5/25/2006, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Boy are they full of it.
>
>Rick
>
>
>===
>
>Contact Information:
>
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>
>Visit my new mailing list on www.freelists.org
>
>blind_geek_zone
>
>
>"The chief handicap of the blind is not blindness, but the attitude of
>seeing people towards them."
>- Helen Keller, 1925
>
>
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Brandon Hicks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 6:31 PM
>Subject: broadcasting question
>
>
>hi list,
>I'm interested in going into radio broadcasting. I know there are people out
>there who have done it, so i emailed a local school that teaches a course
>for broadcasting. here is the reply I received when i asked about a blind
>person attending.
>
>Hi Brandon, sorry about the delay in getting back to you. Unfortunately this
>is not a program that is suitable to the visually impaired. Mainly because
>the cost of accomodating the expense of required equipment would exceed over
>$500,000.00.  Not only the expense, but radio stations and their corporate
>ownership will never incur such an expense, nor is it feasible to create a
>studio suitable for this. I understand your disappointment, however, wanted
>to be very honest with you regarding the reality of this. I truly wish you
>well in all of your future endeavors and if there is anything you require
>further information on, please feel free to email or call me.  Once again,
>thank you for your interest in CSMB.
>
>Regards
>
>Jacquie Hammond
>President/CSMB
>
>Now what is this 500 thousand dollar cost all about? I would be able to, as
>far as I know and I did visit a radio studio to use the mixing boards, and
>they use windows software for the playlist editing, so it would be a simple
>matter of creating scripts. I'm quite curious to see, has anyone got any
>clues?
>thanks
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Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-26 Thread dennis
GREAT. THANKS.
- Original Message - 
From: "Larry N" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 10:15 AM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


> Hi Dennis. You can read about DC6 and access its demo from here.
> http://www.diamondcut.com/Catalog/DC6.htm
>
> Larry
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "dennis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 11:07 AM
> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>
>
>> whare can i get dc6. i would like to take a look at it.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Larry N" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 9:49 AM
>> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>>
>>
>>>I have to agree with Bruce here.  If you're comfortable with it, then 
>>>it's
>>> the best software for you. I own both GoldWave and DC6, both of which
>>> work
>>> well with screen readers. I use both professionally and together,they
>>> work
>>> fine for what I need at a lower cost than Sound Forge. . Sound Forge is
>>> also
>>> an excellent program. No argument here. But the thing is that it 
>>> performs
>>> tasks that I'll never need, which give it a price tag that does not
>>> interst
>>> me. . I would not suggest a contest between GoldWave and Sound Forge, as
>>> I
>>> respect the merrits of both. Rather I would suggest that consumers
>>> approach
>>> the process as they would any other purchase. Determine your needs,
>>> decide
>>> which software package would best meet them and buy it.  Personally, I
>>> don't
>>> purchase any software that I can't try before buying.  I've been burned
>>> before and won't be again. My last suggestion would be that anyone
>>> considering an audio editor might want to think about giving DC6 a try.
>>> They
>>> have a demo that let's you try all aspects of the program before
>>> purchasing
>>> it. You just can't save anything in demo mode.  Jus my 2 cents.
>>>
>>> Larry
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 6:16 PM
>>> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>>>
>>>
 No artument there. My argument isn't about the lack of merit of Sound
 Forge. Jonathan was saying that anyone who is at all semi-serious about
 audio editing shouldn't even give Gold Wave a second though, and it is
 with this point that I respectuflly disagree. I've said all along go
 with
 what you're most comfortable witha dn what works for you.

 Bruce

 -- 
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 gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV

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 On Thu, 25 May 2006, Mac Norins wrote:

> But, if we are not comfortable with Goldwave and we are comfortable
> with
> Soundforge, then exploring another new way to go, such as Gold
> Wave,seems,
> frankly, like an exercise in futility!  Not to extend this thread, by
> any
> means (groan)!
>
> -Mac-
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:17 PM
> Subject: RE: gold wave vs sound forge
>
>
> I disagree strongly with your contention that Gold Wave can't be
> considered for serious sound editing. It has beenby many, and still is
> by
> many. I do all my audio editing with Gold Wave, and while I'm no
> professional recording studio, I'm no slouch at the concept either, 
> and
> there are people who are much more professional than I with recording
> who
> will agree. I'm not denying the superiority of Sound Forge as a sound
> editor, but if you're comfortable with Gold Wave's interface, as I am,
> then the power is there.
>
> bruce
>
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RE: Instant Replay Software

2006-05-26 Thread Thomas Reid

What about placing shortcuts to the wav files on your desktop and assigning
a shortcut key stroke to kick off the file?

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Subject: Instant Replay Software


Hi David,

I work for the local Radio Reading service of Central Massachusetts.
When I'm not doing the 9 to 5 thing I volunteer my time to host a radio
program that covers a wide variety of blind related issues. The station is
not net based and therefore I am not using Shoutcast. Simply put all of my
broadcasts go from an analog board directly out over the airwaves. While the
majority of my shows are prerecorded which gives me the ability to place
nutty sound clips or effects after the fact I am planning on doing some live
broadcasts. My plan was to plug my computer directly into the board and turn
it into an instant replay machine which would give me the ability to play
clips or sounds on the fly. I use winamp as my default player and am running
Jaws 7.0. I guess I could just create a play list of clips I want to use on
the fly but having to arrow through a list and select the sound I want to
play seems like a bit of a pain. If I could trigger each sound clip assigned
to individual hot keys it would be a cleaner and quicker approach when
accessing the files. You had mentioned that assigning hot keys to specific
clips may be something that could be accomplished with scripting. That's a
most interesting idea. If you have any further input on how this could be
accomplished please let me know. Feel free to contact me off list if you
like.



Thanks,

Jay

 



 

Hi Mate,

 

Tell me more about your Broadcasting set-up.  If you are using Jaws, this

could easily be done with scripting.  I am guessing you are using Winamp and

the shoutcast plugin with one sound card using the what you hear as the

input?



 

Greetings folks,
I am seeking your input with regard to accessible instant replay
software. I host a humble little radio program and would like the ability to
instantly play a few wacky sound effects on the fly. I am seeking a program
that would allow me to line up 5 to 10 short sound clips and play each clip
at the push of a button. For example, if I had ten sound clips each clip
would be assigned  it's own hot key. Every time I hit any one of these ten
hot keys the corresponding clip would instantly play. In the old days DJ's
used to use cart machines and today use digital jingle machines to
accomplish this task. While some of these digital devices are semi
accessible, most are ridiculously expensive. After consulting the net I
noticed that several companies sell software that simulate cart machines or
today's digital equivalent. I downloaded various demo's of this type of
software only to discover that nun of them are even remotely
accessible with a screen reader. If anyone knows of a program that would
allow me to play sound clips at the push of a button, or has a solution   to
my
inquiry, I would appreciate your input.
Thanks,
Jay

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Re: Rockbox Recording Settings Not Spoken

2006-05-26 Thread Arnaud de Bonald
mono / stereo recording is not an option on the Iriver.

the Iriver always record in stereo I think at 44100 KHZ Wav file.



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>I am using the May 22 daily build for Rockbox on my iRiver 120.  I no
>longer
>hear some of the recording settings spoken when I go through the settings
>menu.  An important one that is missing is the choice that sets the sample
>rate.  Mono and stereo choices seem to also be missing.  I am using a voice
>file from May 15.  Is anyone else experiencing this?
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Re: Rockbox Recording Settings Not Spoken

2006-05-26 Thread Studio Montebello
Hi Arnaud,
Are you saying that this  is an I River limitation or Rockbox?
Jean

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> mono / stereo recording is not an option on the Iriver.
>
> the Iriver always record in stereo I think at 44100 KHZ Wav file.
>
>
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> >I am using the May 22 daily build for Rockbox on my iRiver 120.  I no
> >longer
> >hear some of the recording settings spoken when I go through the settings
> >menu.  An important one that is missing is the choice that sets the
sample
> >rate.  Mono and stereo choices seem to also be missing.  I am using a
voice
> >file from May 15.  Is anyone else experiencing this?
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Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-26 Thread HF
That sounds like an interesting tutorial. Where can you get it?

HF
- Original Message - 
From: "dennis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


>i get exilent braudcast quality with goldwave and find it to be just fine
> for working quickly. for example in an hours time i have done 30 imagers
> with sound efects and a few open and closers for football and baseball
> braudcasts for the espn radio station that i work for. there is a totorial
> at for the people in 10 parts that if you get it you will know the ins and
> outs of goldwave and be using it very fast in no time. he uses jaws and no
> scrips are needed.that really sold me on it.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Gary Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 9:12 AM
> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>
>
>>I think you can get good broadcast quality from goldwave, but the program
>>is
>> awkward to work with when you are in a hurry.
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "David Tanner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:07 AM
>> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>>
>>
>>>I guess I wouldn't be as concerned about how small a piece as I am things
>>>like the equalizer, noise reduction, click and crackle features,
>>>compression, and mixing choices.  But, that doesn't mean that my needs 
>>>are
>>>the same as everybody else on this list.  So, at the very least a person
>>>should be compairing Goldwave to at least one other sound editor in a
>>>price
>>>range that they can afford.  And, I would be willing to bet that Goldwave
>>>will be fine for 80 percent or more of persons who are not concerned with
>>>getting broadcast quality for every file they edit.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 12:59 PM
>>> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>>>
>>>
>>> : With GW you can edit to within a thousandth of a second or finer. How
>>> much
>>> : finer do you want than that?
>>> :
>>> : Bruce
>>> :
>>> : -- 
>>> : Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
>>> : gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
>>> :
>>> : Bruce Toews
>>> : E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> : Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net
>>> : Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
>>> http://www.ogts.net
>>> : Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
>>> :
>>> : On Thu, 25 May 2006, Gary Schindler wrote:
>>> :
>>> : > the only thing I wish that goldwave could do is to be a more precise
>>> or
>>> : > finer editor. you can't beat soundforges editing capabilities at any
>>> price.
>>> : >
>>> : > - Original Message -
>>> : > From: "Gary Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> : > To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> : > Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:29 AM
>>> : > Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>>> : >
>>> : >
>>> : >> Some people say, "You get what you pay for!"  But actually, you 
>>> have
>>> to
>>> : >> take
>>> : >> a lot of things into consideration when purchasing a sound editor!
>>> What
>>> : >> features and abilities you want with a sound editor, and also, what
>>> you
>>> : >> can
>>> : >> afford!
>>> : >> - Original Message -
>>> : >> From: "Brian Olesen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> : >> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> : >> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 3:42 PM
>>> : >> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>>> : >>
>>> : >>
>>> : >>> HI,
>>> : >>> But it's also pretty expensive.
>>> : >>>
>>> : >>> Best regards
>>> : >>> Brian
>>> : >>> - Original Message -
>>> : >>> From: "Gary Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> : >>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> : >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 5:38 PM
>>> : >>> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>>> : >>>
>>> : >>>
>>> :  I think that from what I've heard so far, that Studio Recorder
>>> from
>>> APH
>>> :  is
>>> :  also quite a program!
>>> :  - Original Message -
>>> :  From: "David Tanner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> :  To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> :  Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 12:59 AM
>>> :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>>> : 
>>> : 
>>> : > I think that the individual needs to take a look at each, decide
>>> what
>>> : > they
>>> : > really need to do, and after all that then make the decision on
>>> how much
>>> : > they are willing to pay to get the editor that will do what they
>>> need to
>>> : > do.  I really like SoundForge, but I do a lot of audio for radio
>>> : > programs,
>>> : > etc.  The person simply wanting to get records to MP3 and clean
>>> the
>>> : > files
>>> : > up to make them sound good may decide that they don't need all
>>> the
>>> : >>

Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-26 Thread dennis
for the people. in the galaxy of stars. a guy who calls himself startbutton 
did it. its in 10 parts.
- Original Message - 
From: "HF" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


> That sounds like an interesting tutorial. Where can you get it?
>
> HF
> - Original Message - 
> From: "dennis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 10:33 AM
> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>
>
>>i get exilent braudcast quality with goldwave and find it to be just fine
>> for working quickly. for example in an hours time i have done 30 imagers
>> with sound efects and a few open and closers for football and baseball
>> braudcasts for the espn radio station that i work for. there is a 
>> totorial
>> at for the people in 10 parts that if you get it you will know the ins 
>> and
>> outs of goldwave and be using it very fast in no time. he uses jaws and 
>> no
>> scrips are needed.that really sold me on it.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Gary Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 9:12 AM
>> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>>
>>
>>>I think you can get good broadcast quality from goldwave, but the program
>>>is
>>> awkward to work with when you are in a hurry.
>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "David Tanner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:07 AM
>>> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>>>
>>>
I guess I wouldn't be as concerned about how small a piece as I am 
things
like the equalizer, noise reduction, click and crackle features,
compression, and mixing choices.  But, that doesn't mean that my needs
are
the same as everybody else on this list.  So, at the very least a person
should be compairing Goldwave to at least one other sound editor in a
price
range that they can afford.  And, I would be willing to bet that 
Goldwave
will be fine for 80 percent or more of persons who are not concerned 
with
getting broadcast quality for every file they edit.



 - Original Message - 
 From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 12:59 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 : With GW you can edit to within a thousandth of a second or finer. How
 much
 : finer do you want than that?
 :
 : Bruce
 :
 : -- 
 : Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
 : gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
 :
 : Bruce Toews
 : E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 : Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net
 : Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
 http://www.ogts.net
 : Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
 :
 : On Thu, 25 May 2006, Gary Schindler wrote:
 :
 : > the only thing I wish that goldwave could do is to be a more 
 precise
 or
 : > finer editor. you can't beat soundforges editing capabilities at 
 any
 price.
 : >
 : > - Original Message -
 : > From: "Gary Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 : > To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
 : > Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:29 AM
 : > Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 : >
 : >
 : >> Some people say, "You get what you pay for!"  But actually, you
 have
 to
 : >> take
 : >> a lot of things into consideration when purchasing a sound editor!
 What
 : >> features and abilities you want with a sound editor, and also, 
 what
 you
 : >> can
 : >> afford!
 : >> - Original Message -
 : >> From: "Brian Olesen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 : >> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
 : >> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 3:42 PM
 : >> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 : >>
 : >>
 : >>> HI,
 : >>> But it's also pretty expensive.
 : >>>
 : >>> Best regards
 : >>> Brian
 : >>> - Original Message -
 : >>> From: "Gary Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 : >>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
 : >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 5:38 PM
 : >>> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 : >>>
 : >>>
 :  I think that from what I've heard so far, that Studio Recorder
 from
 APH
 :  is
 :  also quite a program!
 :  - Original Message -
 :  From: "David Tanner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 :  To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
 :  Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 12:59 AM
 :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 : 
 : 
 : > I think that the individual needs to take a look at each, 
 decide
 what
 : > they
 : 

Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-26 Thread Rick Harmon
That is a great tutorial.  I learned a lot from it.

I have a 3 part soon to be 4 partgoldwave tutorial  at:

www.blindcooltech.com

Rick


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From: "dennis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 1:35 PM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


for the people. in the galaxy of stars. a guy who calls himself startbutton
did it. its in 10 parts.
- Original Message - 
From: "HF" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


> That sounds like an interesting tutorial. Where can you get it?
>
> HF
> - Original Message - 
> From: "dennis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 10:33 AM
> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>
>
>>i get exilent braudcast quality with goldwave and find it to be just fine
>> for working quickly. for example in an hours time i have done 30 imagers
>> with sound efects and a few open and closers for football and baseball
>> braudcasts for the espn radio station that i work for. there is a
>> totorial
>> at for the people in 10 parts that if you get it you will know the ins
>> and
>> outs of goldwave and be using it very fast in no time. he uses jaws and
>> no
>> scrips are needed.that really sold me on it.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Gary Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 9:12 AM
>> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>>
>>
>>>I think you can get good broadcast quality from goldwave, but the program
>>>is
>>> awkward to work with when you are in a hurry.
>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "David Tanner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:07 AM
>>> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>>>
>>>
I guess I wouldn't be as concerned about how small a piece as I am
things
like the equalizer, noise reduction, click and crackle features,
compression, and mixing choices.  But, that doesn't mean that my needs
are
the same as everybody else on this list.  So, at the very least a person
should be compairing Goldwave to at least one other sound editor in a
price
range that they can afford.  And, I would be willing to bet that
Goldwave
will be fine for 80 percent or more of persons who are not concerned
with
getting broadcast quality for every file they edit.



 - Original Message - 
 From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 12:59 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 : With GW you can edit to within a thousandth of a second or finer. How
 much
 : finer do you want than that?
 :
 : Bruce
 :
 : -- 
 : Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
 : gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
 :
 : Bruce Toews
 : E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 : Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net
 : Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
 http://www.ogts.net
 : Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
 :
 : On Thu, 25 May 2006, Gary Schindler wrote:
 :
 : > the only thing I wish that goldwave could do is to be a more
 precise
 or
 : > finer editor. you can't beat soundforges editing capabilities at
 any
 price.
 : >
 : > - Original Message -
 : > From: "Gary Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 : > To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
 : > Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:29 AM
 : > Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 : >
 : >
 : >> Some people say, "You get what you pay for!"  But actually, you
 have
 to
 : >> take
 : >> a lot of things into consideration when purchasing a sound editor!
 What
 : >> features and abilities you want with a sound editor, and also,
 what
 you
 : >> can
 : >> afford!
 : >> - Original Message -
 : >> From: "Brian Olesen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 : >> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
 : >> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 3:42 PM
 : >> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 : >>
 : >>
 : >>> HI,
 : >>> But it's also pretty expensive.
 : >>>
 : >>> Best regards
 : >>> Brian
 : >>> - Original Message -
 : >>> From: "Gary Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 : >>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
 :

Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-26 Thread dennis
i'm gonna check it out. do you cover anything that startbutton missed on 
his? also i use a multy track recorder called ntrack studio and i use the 
pluggins from it in goldwave and they work great.the efects are better.
- Original Message - 
From: "Rick Harmon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


> That is a great tutorial.  I learned a lot from it.
>
> I have a 3 part soon to be 4 partgoldwave tutorial  at:
>
> www.blindcooltech.com
>
> Rick
>
>
> ===
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> Contact Information:
>
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>
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>
> blind_geek_zone
>
>
> "The chief handicap of the blind is not blindness, but the attitude of
> seeing people towards them."
> - Helen Keller, 1925
>
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "dennis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 1:35 PM
> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>
>
> for the people. in the galaxy of stars. a guy who calls himself 
> startbutton
> did it. its in 10 parts.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "HF" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:24 PM
> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>
>
>> That sounds like an interesting tutorial. Where can you get it?
>>
>> HF
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "dennis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 10:33 AM
>> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>>
>>
>>>i get exilent braudcast quality with goldwave and find it to be just fine
>>> for working quickly. for example in an hours time i have done 30 imagers
>>> with sound efects and a few open and closers for football and baseball
>>> braudcasts for the espn radio station that i work for. there is a
>>> totorial
>>> at for the people in 10 parts that if you get it you will know the ins
>>> and
>>> outs of goldwave and be using it very fast in no time. he uses jaws and
>>> no
>>> scrips are needed.that really sold me on it.
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Gary Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 9:12 AM
>>> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>>>
>>>
I think you can get good broadcast quality from goldwave, but the 
program
is
 awkward to work with when you are in a hurry.

 - Original Message - 
 From: "David Tanner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
 Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:07 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


>I guess I wouldn't be as concerned about how small a piece as I am
>things
>like the equalizer, noise reduction, click and crackle features,
>compression, and mixing choices.  But, that doesn't mean that my needs
>are
>the same as everybody else on this list.  So, at the very least a 
>person
>should be compairing Goldwave to at least one other sound editor in a
>price
>range that they can afford.  And, I would be willing to bet that
>Goldwave
>will be fine for 80 percent or more of persons who are not concerned
>with
>getting broadcast quality for every file they edit.
>
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 12:59 PM
> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>
>
> : With GW you can edit to within a thousandth of a second or finer. 
> How
> much
> : finer do you want than that?
> :
> : Bruce
> :
> : -- 
> : Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
> : gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
> :
> : Bruce Toews
> : E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> : Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net
> : Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
> http://www.ogts.net
> : Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
> :
> : On Thu, 25 May 2006, Gary Schindler wrote:
> :
> : > the only thing I wish that goldwave could do is to be a more
> precise
> or
> : > finer editor. you can't beat soundforges editing capabilities at
> any
> price.
> : >
> : > - Original Message -
> : > From: "Gary Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> : > To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> : > Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:29 AM
> : > Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
> : >
> : >
> : >> Some people say, "You get what you pay for!"  But actually, you
> have
> to
> : >> take
> : >> a lot of things into consideration when purchasing a sound 
> editor!
> What
> : >> features an

Re: gold wave can't move finish marker

2006-05-26 Thread Ron Winstanley
Hello 
I'm not sure of the difference between end markers and finish markers, but 
holding down left shift and left control while pressing the left or right 
cursor keys will move the marker accordingly. Also, the right bracket key will 
place the marker at the current position in the file. 
Ron 
  - Original Message - 
  From: HF 
  To: PC audio discussion list. 
  Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 2:55 PM
  Subject: gold wave can't move finish marker


  Any ideas, I cannot move the finish marker in either direction. I can 
  though, move the start marker without a problem.
  Is there a setting that I should be awhere of?

  HF 


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Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-26 Thread Rick Harmon
Hi not really except I go over the scripts a bit on part 2.  The rest goes 
over the basics.

Rick


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- Original Message - 
From: "dennis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


i'm gonna check it out. do you cover anything that startbutton missed on
his? also i use a multy track recorder called ntrack studio and i use the
pluggins from it in goldwave and they work great.the efects are better.
- Original Message - 
From: "Rick Harmon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


> That is a great tutorial.  I learned a lot from it.
>
> I have a 3 part soon to be 4 partgoldwave tutorial  at:
>
> www.blindcooltech.com
>
> Rick
>
>
> ===
>
> Contact Information:
>
> Skype ID: rharmon928
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>
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>
> blind_geek_zone
>
>
> "The chief handicap of the blind is not blindness, but the attitude of
> seeing people towards them."
> - Helen Keller, 1925
>
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "dennis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 1:35 PM
> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>
>
> for the people. in the galaxy of stars. a guy who calls himself
> startbutton
> did it. its in 10 parts.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "HF" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:24 PM
> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>
>
>> That sounds like an interesting tutorial. Where can you get it?
>>
>> HF
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "dennis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 10:33 AM
>> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>>
>>
>>>i get exilent braudcast quality with goldwave and find it to be just fine
>>> for working quickly. for example in an hours time i have done 30 imagers
>>> with sound efects and a few open and closers for football and baseball
>>> braudcasts for the espn radio station that i work for. there is a
>>> totorial
>>> at for the people in 10 parts that if you get it you will know the ins
>>> and
>>> outs of goldwave and be using it very fast in no time. he uses jaws and
>>> no
>>> scrips are needed.that really sold me on it.
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Gary Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 9:12 AM
>>> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>>>
>>>
I think you can get good broadcast quality from goldwave, but the
program
is
 awkward to work with when you are in a hurry.

 - Original Message - 
 From: "David Tanner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
 Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:07 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


>I guess I wouldn't be as concerned about how small a piece as I am
>things
>like the equalizer, noise reduction, click and crackle features,
>compression, and mixing choices.  But, that doesn't mean that my needs
>are
>the same as everybody else on this list.  So, at the very least a
>person
>should be compairing Goldwave to at least one other sound editor in a
>price
>range that they can afford.  And, I would be willing to bet that
>Goldwave
>will be fine for 80 percent or more of persons who are not concerned
>with
>getting broadcast quality for every file they edit.
>
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 12:59 PM
> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>
>
> : With GW you can edit to within a thousandth of a second or finer.
> How
> much
> : finer do you want than that?
> :
> : Bruce
> :
> : -- 
> : Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
> : gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
> :
> : Bruce Toews
> : E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> : Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net
> : Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
> http://www.ogts.net
> : Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
> :
> : On Thu, 25 May 2006, Gary Schindler wrote:
> :
> : > the only thing I wish that goldwave could do is to be a m

Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-26 Thread dennis
cool. i'll check it out.
- Original Message - 
From: "Rick Harmon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


> Hi not really except I go over the scripts a bit on part 2.  The rest goes
> over the basics.
>
> Rick
>
>
> ===
>
> Contact Information:
>
> Skype ID: rharmon928
> MSN ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Phone: 330-724-6093
> Location: Akron, Ohio USA
>
> Visit my new mailing list on www.freelists.org
>
> blind_geek_zone
>
>
> "The chief handicap of the blind is not blindness, but the attitude of
> seeing people towards them."
> - Helen Keller, 1925
>
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "dennis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 2:18 PM
> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>
>
> i'm gonna check it out. do you cover anything that startbutton missed on
> his? also i use a multy track recorder called ntrack studio and i use the
> pluggins from it in goldwave and they work great.the efects are better.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Rick Harmon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:44 PM
> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>
>
>> That is a great tutorial.  I learned a lot from it.
>>
>> I have a 3 part soon to be 4 partgoldwave tutorial  at:
>>
>> www.blindcooltech.com
>>
>> Rick
>>
>>
>> ===
>>
>> Contact Information:
>>
>> Skype ID: rharmon928
>> MSN ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Phone: 330-724-6093
>> Location: Akron, Ohio USA
>>
>> Visit my new mailing list on www.freelists.org
>>
>> blind_geek_zone
>>
>>
>> "The chief handicap of the blind is not blindness, but the attitude of
>> seeing people towards them."
>> - Helen Keller, 1925
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "dennis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 1:35 PM
>> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>>
>>
>> for the people. in the galaxy of stars. a guy who calls himself
>> startbutton
>> did it. its in 10 parts.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "HF" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:24 PM
>> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>>
>>
>>> That sounds like an interesting tutorial. Where can you get it?
>>>
>>> HF
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "dennis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 10:33 AM
>>> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>>>
>>>
i get exilent braudcast quality with goldwave and find it to be just 
fine
 for working quickly. for example in an hours time i have done 30 
 imagers
 with sound efects and a few open and closers for football and baseball
 braudcasts for the espn radio station that i work for. there is a
 totorial
 at for the people in 10 parts that if you get it you will know the ins
 and
 outs of goldwave and be using it very fast in no time. he uses jaws and
 no
 scrips are needed.that really sold me on it.
 - Original Message - 
 From: "Gary Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
 Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 9:12 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


>I think you can get good broadcast quality from goldwave, but the
>program
>is
> awkward to work with when you are in a hurry.
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "David Tanner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:07 AM
> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>
>
>>I guess I wouldn't be as concerned about how small a piece as I am
>>things
>>like the equalizer, noise reduction, click and crackle features,
>>compression, and mixing choices.  But, that doesn't mean that my needs
>>are
>>the same as everybody else on this list.  So, at the very least a
>>person
>>should be compairing Goldwave to at least one other sound editor in a
>>price
>>range that they can afford.  And, I would be willing to bet that
>>Goldwave
>>will be fine for 80 percent or more of persons who are not concerned
>>with
>>getting broadcast quality for every file they edit.
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 12:59 PM
>> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>>
>>
>> : With GW you can edit to within a thousandth of a second or finer.
>> How
>> much
>> : finer do you want than that?
>> :
>> : Bruce
>> :
>> : -- 
>> : Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
>> : gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
>> :
>> : Bruce Toe

RE: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-26 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi all, just in case this thread has created any false impression for
anyone, Sound Forge is not dependent on screen reader configuration. Just as
there are benefits in running the scripts for Goldwave, there are also
benefits in running the scripts or set files for Sound Forge. However I
personally choose not to use them as for me, speed is the key, and I found
the scripts slow things down a little. So you can certainly use Sound Forge
without scripts.

I agree with the side by side comparison idea. I've used and learned both
programs, so may well give that a go at some point to illustrate the
differences.

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http://www.the-minx.com
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Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-26 Thread Rick Harmon
Start buttons is better than mine, but I hang out on BCT and people are 
always wanting goldwave tutorials.  And after listening to start buttons I 
felt inspired to try doing one of my own.

Hope you like it.

Rick


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- Original Message - 
From: "dennis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


cool. i'll check it out.
- Original Message - 
From: "Rick Harmon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


> Hi not really except I go over the scripts a bit on part 2.  The rest goes
> over the basics.
>
> Rick
>
>
> ===
>
> Contact Information:
>
> Skype ID: rharmon928
> MSN ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Phone: 330-724-6093
> Location: Akron, Ohio USA
>
> Visit my new mailing list on www.freelists.org
>
> blind_geek_zone
>
>
> "The chief handicap of the blind is not blindness, but the attitude of
> seeing people towards them."
> - Helen Keller, 1925
>
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "dennis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 2:18 PM
> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>
>
> i'm gonna check it out. do you cover anything that startbutton missed on
> his? also i use a multy track recorder called ntrack studio and i use the
> pluggins from it in goldwave and they work great.the efects are better.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Rick Harmon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:44 PM
> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>
>
>> That is a great tutorial.  I learned a lot from it.
>>
>> I have a 3 part soon to be 4 partgoldwave tutorial  at:
>>
>> www.blindcooltech.com
>>
>> Rick
>>
>>
>> ===
>>
>> Contact Information:
>>
>> Skype ID: rharmon928
>> MSN ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Phone: 330-724-6093
>> Location: Akron, Ohio USA
>>
>> Visit my new mailing list on www.freelists.org
>>
>> blind_geek_zone
>>
>>
>> "The chief handicap of the blind is not blindness, but the attitude of
>> seeing people towards them."
>> - Helen Keller, 1925
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "dennis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 1:35 PM
>> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>>
>>
>> for the people. in the galaxy of stars. a guy who calls himself
>> startbutton
>> did it. its in 10 parts.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "HF" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:24 PM
>> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>>
>>
>>> That sounds like an interesting tutorial. Where can you get it?
>>>
>>> HF
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "dennis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 10:33 AM
>>> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>>>
>>>
i get exilent braudcast quality with goldwave and find it to be just
fine
 for working quickly. for example in an hours time i have done 30
 imagers
 with sound efects and a few open and closers for football and baseball
 braudcasts for the espn radio station that i work for. there is a
 totorial
 at for the people in 10 parts that if you get it you will know the ins
 and
 outs of goldwave and be using it very fast in no time. he uses jaws and
 no
 scrips are needed.that really sold me on it.
 - Original Message - 
 From: "Gary Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
 Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 9:12 AM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


>I think you can get good broadcast quality from goldwave, but the
>program
>is
> awkward to work with when you are in a hurry.
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "David Tanner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:07 AM
> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>
>
>>I guess I wouldn't be as concerned about how small a piece as I am
>>things
>>like the equalizer, noise reduction, click and crackle features,
>>compression, and mixing choices.  But, that doesn't mean that my needs
>>are
>>the same as everybody else on this list.  So, at the very least a
>>person
>>should be compairing Goldwave to at least one other sound editor in a
>>price
>>range that they can afford.  And, I would be willing to bet that
>>Goldwave
>>will be

Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-26 Thread Mac Norins
You mean, you might "update" the famous Soundforge tutorials, with a Gold 
wave comparison?  How many years ago was that done (Soundforge, I mean)?

-Mac-
- Original Message - 
From: "Jonathan Mosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" 
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:14 PM
Subject: RE: gold wave vs sound forge


Hi all, just in case this thread has created any false impression for
anyone, Sound Forge is not dependent on screen reader configuration. Just as
there are benefits in running the scripts for Goldwave, there are also
benefits in running the scripts or set files for Sound Forge. However I
personally choose not to use them as for me, speed is the key, and I found
the scripts slow things down a little. So you can certainly use Sound Forge
without scripts.

I agree with the side by side comparison idea. I've used and learned both
programs, so may well give that a go at some point to illustrate the
differences.

The Minx, the Internet radio station that plays all the great love songs.

http://www.the-minx.com
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RE: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-26 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi mac, Forging Ahead, the Sound Forge tutorial was completed in 2000,
although the basic concepts are the same so it's still relevant. It wouldn't
be an update of that tutorial so much as an evaluation of performance,
functionality, efficiency, consistency with Windows standards and ease of
use. It's certainly not something I'd attempt until I move though. 

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-Original Message-
From: Mac Norins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, 26 May 2006 2:25 p.m.
To: PC audio discussion list. 
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


You mean, you might "update" the famous Soundforge tutorials, with a Gold 
wave comparison?  How many years ago was that done (Soundforge, I mean)?

-Mac-
- Original Message - 
From: "Jonathan Mosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" 
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:14 PM
Subject: RE: gold wave vs sound forge


Hi all, just in case this thread has created any false impression for
anyone, Sound Forge is not dependent on screen reader configuration. Just as
there are benefits in running the scripts for Goldwave, there are also
benefits in running the scripts or set files for Sound Forge. However I
personally choose not to use them as for me, speed is the key, and I found
the scripts slow things down a little. So you can certainly use Sound Forge
without scripts.

I agree with the side by side comparison idea. I've used and learned both
programs, so may well give that a go at some point to illustrate the
differences.

The Minx, the Internet radio station that plays all the great love songs.

http://www.the-minx.com
Jonathan Mosen
Blog, podcast and radio show: http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Ph: +1-925-566-9265.
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Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-26 Thread Mac Norins
Yeah,

I have those tapes; they are golden to me, no pun intended!  I will look 
forward to your evaluations!
- Original Message - 
From: "Jonathan Mosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" 
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:33 PM
Subject: RE: gold wave vs sound forge


Hi mac, Forging Ahead, the Sound Forge tutorial was completed in 2000,
although the basic concepts are the same so it's still relevant. It wouldn't
be an update of that tutorial so much as an evaluation of performance,
functionality, efficiency, consistency with Windows standards and ease of
use. It's certainly not something I'd attempt until I move though.

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-Original Message-
From: Mac Norins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 26 May 2006 2:25 p.m.
To: PC audio discussion list.
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


You mean, you might "update" the famous Soundforge tutorials, with a Gold
wave comparison?  How many years ago was that done (Soundforge, I mean)?

-Mac-
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Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:14 PM
Subject: RE: gold wave vs sound forge


Hi all, just in case this thread has created any false impression for
anyone, Sound Forge is not dependent on screen reader configuration. Just as
there are benefits in running the scripts for Goldwave, there are also
benefits in running the scripts or set files for Sound Forge. However I
personally choose not to use them as for me, speed is the key, and I found
the scripts slow things down a little. So you can certainly use Sound Forge
without scripts.

I agree with the side by side comparison idea. I've used and learned both
programs, so may well give that a go at some point to illustrate the
differences.

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Re: broadcasting question

2006-05-26 Thread Gary Wood
This doesn't sound like they were maybe being totally fair with you!
- Original Message - 
From: "Brandon Hicks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 6:31 PM
Subject: broadcasting question


> hi list,
> I'm interested in going into radio broadcasting. I know there are people 
> out
> there who have done it, so i emailed a local school that teaches a course
> for broadcasting. here is the reply I received when i asked about a blind
> person attending.
>
> Hi Brandon, sorry about the delay in getting back to you. Unfortunately 
> this
> is not a program that is suitable to the visually impaired. Mainly because
> the cost of accomodating the expense of required equipment would exceed 
> over
> $500,000.00.  Not only the expense, but radio stations and their corporate
> ownership will never incur such an expense, nor is it feasible to create a
> studio suitable for this. I understand your disappointment, however, 
> wanted
> to be very honest with you regarding the reality of this. I truly wish you
> well in all of your future endeavors and if there is anything you require
> further information on, please feel free to email or call me.  Once again,
> thank you for your interest in CSMB.
>
> Regards
>
> Jacquie Hammond
> President/CSMB
>
> Now what is this 500 thousand dollar cost all about? I would be able to, 
> as
> far as I know and I did visit a radio studio to use the mixing boards, and
> they use windows software for the playlist editing, so it would be a 
> simple
> matter of creating scripts. I'm quite curious to see, has anyone got any
> clues?
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RE: broadcasting question

2006-05-26 Thread Jed Barton
Brandon,
That's bunch of crap.
I'm totally blind and have been in the industry for 15 years.
They have a lot of growing up to do
Hit me back, and we can talk about it.

-Original Message-
From: Gary Wood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 4:00 PM
To: PC audio discussion list. 
Subject: Re: broadcasting question


This doesn't sound like they were maybe being totally fair with you!
- Original Message - 
From: "Brandon Hicks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 6:31 PM
Subject: broadcasting question


> hi list,
> I'm interested in going into radio broadcasting. I know there are 
> people
> out
> there who have done it, so i emailed a local school that teaches a
course
> for broadcasting. here is the reply I received when i asked about a
blind
> person attending.
>
> Hi Brandon, sorry about the delay in getting back to you. 
> Unfortunately
> this
> is not a program that is suitable to the visually impaired. Mainly
because
> the cost of accomodating the expense of required equipment would
exceed 
> over
> $500,000.00.  Not only the expense, but radio stations and their
corporate
> ownership will never incur such an expense, nor is it feasible to
create a
> studio suitable for this. I understand your disappointment, however, 
> wanted
> to be very honest with you regarding the reality of this. I truly wish
you
> well in all of your future endeavors and if there is anything you
require
> further information on, please feel free to email or call me.  Once
again,
> thank you for your interest in CSMB.
>
> Regards
>
> Jacquie Hammond
> President/CSMB
>
> Now what is this 500 thousand dollar cost all about? I would be able 
> to,
> as
> far as I know and I did visit a radio studio to use the mixing boards,
and
> they use windows software for the playlist editing, so it would be a 
> simple
> matter of creating scripts. I'm quite curious to see, has anyone got
any
> clues?
> thanks
> Brandon Hicks
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Skype: callto://reyuth
> msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
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Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-26 Thread Gary Wood
By going to for-the-people.com!
- Original Message - 
From: "HF" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


> That sounds like an interesting tutorial. Where can you get it?
>
> HF
> - Original Message - 
> From: "dennis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 10:33 AM
> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>
>
>>i get exilent braudcast quality with goldwave and find it to be just fine
>> for working quickly. for example in an hours time i have done 30 imagers
>> with sound efects and a few open and closers for football and baseball
>> braudcasts for the espn radio station that i work for. there is a 
>> totorial
>> at for the people in 10 parts that if you get it you will know the ins 
>> and
>> outs of goldwave and be using it very fast in no time. he uses jaws and 
>> no
>> scrips are needed.that really sold me on it.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Gary Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 9:12 AM
>> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>>
>>
>>>I think you can get good broadcast quality from goldwave, but the program
>>>is
>>> awkward to work with when you are in a hurry.
>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "David Tanner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:07 AM
>>> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
>>>
>>>
I guess I wouldn't be as concerned about how small a piece as I am 
things
like the equalizer, noise reduction, click and crackle features,
compression, and mixing choices.  But, that doesn't mean that my needs
are
the same as everybody else on this list.  So, at the very least a person
should be compairing Goldwave to at least one other sound editor in a
price
range that they can afford.  And, I would be willing to bet that 
Goldwave
will be fine for 80 percent or more of persons who are not concerned 
with
getting broadcast quality for every file they edit.



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 From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
 Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 12:59 PM
 Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


 : With GW you can edit to within a thousandth of a second or finer. How
 much
 : finer do you want than that?
 :
 : Bruce
 :
 : -- 
 : Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
 : gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
 :
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 :
 : On Thu, 25 May 2006, Gary Schindler wrote:
 :
 : > the only thing I wish that goldwave could do is to be a more 
 precise
 or
 : > finer editor. you can't beat soundforges editing capabilities at 
 any
 price.
 : >
 : > - Original Message -
 : > From: "Gary Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 : > To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
 : > Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:29 AM
 : > Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 : >
 : >
 : >> Some people say, "You get what you pay for!"  But actually, you
 have
 to
 : >> take
 : >> a lot of things into consideration when purchasing a sound editor!
 What
 : >> features and abilities you want with a sound editor, and also, 
 what
 you
 : >> can
 : >> afford!
 : >> - Original Message -
 : >> From: "Brian Olesen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 : >> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
 : >> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 3:42 PM
 : >> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 : >>
 : >>
 : >>> HI,
 : >>> But it's also pretty expensive.
 : >>>
 : >>> Best regards
 : >>> Brian
 : >>> - Original Message -
 : >>> From: "Gary Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 : >>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
 : >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 5:38 PM
 : >>> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 : >>>
 : >>>
 :  I think that from what I've heard so far, that Studio Recorder
 from
 APH
 :  is
 :  also quite a program!
 :  - Original Message -
 :  From: "David Tanner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 :  To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
 :  Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 12:59 AM
 :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
 : 
 : 
 : > I think that the individual needs to take a look at each, 
 decide
 what
 : > they
 : > really need to do, and after all that then make the decision on
 

Re: gold wave can't move finish marker

2006-05-26 Thread HF
Hi Ron
They don't move at all for me. They stay in the same place. I could move the 
start markerwithout a problem, but not the end marker.

HF
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Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: gold wave can't move finish marker


> Hello
> I'm not sure of the difference between end markers and finish markers, but 
> holding down left shift and left control while pressing the left or right 
> cursor keys will move the marker accordingly. Also, the right bracket key 
> will place the marker at the current position in the file.
> Ron
>  - Original Message - 
>  From: HF
>  To: PC audio discussion list.
>  Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 2:55 PM
>  Subject: gold wave can't move finish marker
>
>
>  Any ideas, I cannot move the finish marker in either direction. I can
>  though, move the start marker without a problem.
>  Is there a setting that I should be awhere of?
>
>  HF
>
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Re: Re[2]: txt2mp3

2006-05-26 Thread kevin cussick
Hi all,

My finger is feeling a bit better now!

I wonder if someone can help wit bibbose don't know if I have spelled it 
correct or not.

I amtrying to see if the program will split a big mp3 file up rather than 
just make a huge file their is 4 choices but I don't quite know what I'm 
doing.

If someone who has the program can take a look it's under the tools menu and 
mp3 you can select the beginning of the document I done it and you only get 
the title of the book I thank you in advance for any help anyone can give. 


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Re: gold wave can't move finish marker

2006-05-26 Thread Rick Harmon
Hi,

use control + left shift keys with the left and right cursor keys to move 
the finish marker.

Rick


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- Original Message - 
From: "HF" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 4:39 PM
Subject: Re: gold wave can't move finish marker


Hi Ron
They don't move at all for me. They stay in the same place. I could move the
start markerwithout a problem, but not the end marker.

HF
- Original Message - 
From: "Ron Winstanley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: gold wave can't move finish marker


> Hello
> I'm not sure of the difference between end markers and finish markers, but
> holding down left shift and left control while pressing the left or right
> cursor keys will move the marker accordingly. Also, the right bracket key
> will place the marker at the current position in the file.
> Ron
>  - Original Message - 
>  From: HF
>  To: PC audio discussion list.
>  Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 2:55 PM
>  Subject: gold wave can't move finish marker
>
>
>  Any ideas, I cannot move the finish marker in either direction. I can
>  though, move the start marker without a problem.
>  Is there a setting that I should be awhere of?
>
>  HF
>
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Re: gold wave can't move finish marker

2006-05-26 Thread HF
I do, but they don't move.
HF
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Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: gold wave can't move finish marker


> Hi,
>
> use control + left shift keys with the left and right cursor keys to move
> the finish marker.
>
> Rick
>
>
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>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "HF" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 4:39 PM
> Subject: Re: gold wave can't move finish marker
>
>
> Hi Ron
> They don't move at all for me. They stay in the same place. I could move 
> the
> start markerwithout a problem, but not the end marker.
>
> HF
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Ron Winstanley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 2:40 PM
> Subject: Re: gold wave can't move finish marker
>
>
>> Hello
>> I'm not sure of the difference between end markers and finish markers, 
>> but
>> holding down left shift and left control while pressing the left or right
>> cursor keys will move the marker accordingly. Also, the right bracket key
>> will place the marker at the current position in the file.
>> Ron
>>  - Original Message - 
>>  From: HF
>>  To: PC audio discussion list.
>>  Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 2:55 PM
>>  Subject: gold wave can't move finish marker
>>
>>
>>  Any ideas, I cannot move the finish marker in either direction. I can
>>  though, move the start marker without a problem.
>>  Is there a setting that I should be awhere of?
>>
>>  HF
>>
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Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-26 Thread Jim Noseworthy
Jonathan:

I'm sure that many of us would appreciate if you would do a comparison 
between both editors. You're certainly guifted in that way.

Cheers.

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Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 4:14 PM
Subject: RE: gold wave vs sound forge


> Hi all, just in case this thread has created any false impression for
> anyone, Sound Forge is not dependent on screen reader configuration. Just 
> as
> there are benefits in running the scripts for Goldwave, there are also
> benefits in running the scripts or set files for Sound Forge. However I
> personally choose not to use them as for me, speed is the key, and I found
> the scripts slow things down a little. So you can certainly use Sound 
> Forge
> without scripts.
>
> I agree with the side by side comparison idea. I've used and learned both
> programs, so may well give that a go at some point to illustrate the
> differences.
>
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Re: gold wave can't move finish marker

2006-05-26 Thread Rick Harmon
Well are you in a open file?  There isn't any reason it wouldn't work 
really.

Rick


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I do, but they don't move.
HF
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Subject: Re: gold wave can't move finish marker


> Hi,
>
> use control + left shift keys with the left and right cursor keys to move
> the finish marker.
>
> Rick
>
>
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>
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "HF" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 4:39 PM
> Subject: Re: gold wave can't move finish marker
>
>
> Hi Ron
> They don't move at all for me. They stay in the same place. I could move
> the
> start markerwithout a problem, but not the end marker.
>
> HF
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Ron Winstanley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 2:40 PM
> Subject: Re: gold wave can't move finish marker
>
>
>> Hello
>> I'm not sure of the difference between end markers and finish markers,
>> but
>> holding down left shift and left control while pressing the left or right
>> cursor keys will move the marker accordingly. Also, the right bracket key
>> will place the marker at the current position in the file.
>> Ron
>>  - Original Message - 
>>  From: HF
>>  To: PC audio discussion list.
>>  Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 2:55 PM
>>  Subject: gold wave can't move finish marker
>>
>>
>>  Any ideas, I cannot move the finish marker in either direction. I can
>>  though, move the start marker without a problem.
>>  Is there a setting that I should be awhere of?
>>
>>  HF
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Would someone check this link for me?

2006-05-26 Thread Dana S. Leslie
Would someone please go to my Media web page:
http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/media.shtml,
find the link for Cape Talk 567 (the link for the Windows Media stream, not 
the home page), and test it, for me? Whenever I enter the associated URL 
directly into either WMP or Realplayer, it works fine. But, whenever I click 
on the link on my web page, whichever player I have associated with .asx 
files (either WMP or Realplayer) reports that the stream cannot be found. 
I'd like to know if others have the same problem when clicking on the link 
on my web page, or if the problem may be something peculiar to my system.

Thanks.

Blessed Be,

Dana
that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A

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Re: broadcasting question

2006-05-26 Thread Dave Marthouse
Hi Bob,

What screen were you using with that automation system?  Was the system
fully accessible?


Dave Marthouse
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- Original Message - 
From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:23 AM
Subject: Re: broadcasting question


> I have only used Dallett, and that was simply a matter of blocking your
edit
> and hitting the delete key, and that portion of the sound bite was gone.
> With Dallett you are given the option to reinsert the portion of the clip
> that was deleted.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Brent Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 11:20 PM
> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>
>
> > Oh, I thought that was the broadcast automation where you'd import the
wav
> > files or whatever from another editor into. I think the best interface
is
> > probably Studio Recorder from APH because it has the sound forge feel to
> > it
> > with the brackets doing selecting and the ability to scrub ahead and
such.
> > It really doesn't take much to take out something and have it sound like
> > it
> > was never there. The thing that it does that Goldwave doesn't, at least
> > from
> > what I gather, is to give me a goto time function that I can just type
in
> > "+3:00" or whatever to go 3 minutes ahead or whatever I need to find the
> > next place to delete or end the deletion or whatever.
> >
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> > Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 10:03 PM
> > Subject: Re: broadcasting question
> >
> >
> >> Blind people, in my view can play a tremendous role behind the scenes
if
> >> only given the chance. In mhy case I was labeled as one of the best
audio
> >> editors in the business. Keep in mind that in those days we had nothing
> >> more
> >> to work with than a greese pencil, audio tape and splicing tape. Today
> >> working with any of the editing programs is a breeze. With the best of
> >> physical editing we could never achieve the accuracy that electronic
> >> editing
> >> brings to this new age of technology. I have yet to play with some of
> >> these
> >> programs. My experience has only been with a program caalled Dallett.
> >> Wit Dallett you can do just about anything that you can do with sound
> >> forge
> >> and gold wave. You don't want to go out and buy Dallett unless you have
> >> very
> >> deep pockets, and I mean deep pockets. .
> >> - Original Message - 
> >> From: "Chuck Adkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> >> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 10:39 PM
> >> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
> >>
> >>
> >>> You are so correct. I have a friend at our local adult sstation who
> >>> tells
> >>> me
> >>> when he has a shift, he goes in to the control room and has two
buttons.
> >>> One
> >>> is the mic, and the other is marked "Next Event!" All of his scripts
are
> >>> on
> >>> the screne as is his log, playlist, show, you name it. Not many
stations
> >>> use
> >>> CD's anymore, and get their music from a music service or download a
> >>> packagge from somewhere.
> >>>
> >>> There are some blind people doing operations work and behind the scene
> >>> stuff, but I don't know of many on the air. I would like to hear from
> >>> anybody using Audiovolt, and other stuff. I've used Enco on a limmited
> >>> bassis, and it does work with Window-eyes right out of the box as do
> >>> many
> >>> many things, including Sound Forge although the sets do help.
> >>>
> >>> Chuck
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> - Original Message - 
> >>> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> >>> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 10:09 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
> >>>
> >>>
>  It is my understanding that the 1500 songs that most stations have on
>  their
>  rotating play list are downloaded from special websites that are set
up
>  by
>  the record companies and are simply inserted into the daily play
list,
>  thus
>  eliminating this particular function. At one time I was a music
>  librarian
>  for a Canadian public broadcaster. It was my job to order and
catalogue
>  all
>  of the music into a national database with a number of different
>  information
>  fields to be filled in by the person doing the cataloguing. Back then
>  we
>  had physical compact discs that we could actually hold in our hands.
>  Today
>  all of that music is on a hard drive. If you are an oldies station
>  there
>  are
>  companies that will actually send you a physical hard drive that is
>  preloaded with any type of music that you desire. The  drive costs
>  about
>  200-dollars. This is far less than actually going out to buy all of
>  that
>  music. In most stations that I have visited in the past year or so,
you
>  would be ha

RE: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-26 Thread Daveed Mandell
Jonathan:  Don't you find it easier to engage scrubbing when editing, 
especialy, on tight deadlines?  I find that without scrubbing it is far 
more difficult to guage the distance I move or how much of the material I 
want to select.  Just as sighted folks look at the waveform, I feel 
scrubbing gives us an equal ability to move through sound quickly and smoothly.

Can you engage scrubbing without the scripts?

Thanks.

Should I upgrade to version 8?  At work we have to use version 6 in the 
newsroom and--yes--version 4.5 in our news studio.  Don't ask me why we 
haven't upgraded!  I have version 7 here at home.

--Daveed--At 12:14 PM 5/26/2006, you wrote:

>Hi all, just in case this thread has created any false impression for
>anyone, Sound Forge is not dependent on screen reader configuration. Just as
>there are benefits in running the scripts for Goldwave, there are also
>benefits in running the scripts or set files for Sound Forge. However I
>personally choose not to use them as for me, speed is the key, and I found
>the scripts slow things down a little. So you can certainly use Sound Forge
>without scripts.
>
>I agree with the side by side comparison idea. I've used and learned both
>programs, so may well give that a go at some point to illustrate the
>differences.
>
>The Minx, the Internet radio station that plays all the great love songs.
>
>http://www.the-minx.com
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Re: broadcasting question

2006-05-26 Thread Bob Seed
Dallett is a windows based system. I was using a large screen and not a 
scraen reader.
 - Original Message - 
From: "Dave Marthouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 7:01 PM
Subject: Re: broadcasting question


> Hi Bob,
>
> What screen were you using with that automation system?  Was the system
> fully accessible?
>
>
> Dave Marthouse
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:23 AM
> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>
>
>> I have only used Dallett, and that was simply a matter of blocking your
> edit
>> and hitting the delete key, and that portion of the sound bite was gone.
>> With Dallett you are given the option to reinsert the portion of the clip
>> that was deleted.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Brent Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 11:20 PM
>> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>>
>>
>> > Oh, I thought that was the broadcast automation where you'd import the
> wav
>> > files or whatever from another editor into. I think the best interface
> is
>> > probably Studio Recorder from APH because it has the sound forge feel 
>> > to
>> > it
>> > with the brackets doing selecting and the ability to scrub ahead and
> such.
>> > It really doesn't take much to take out something and have it sound 
>> > like
>> > it
>> > was never there. The thing that it does that Goldwave doesn't, at least
>> > from
>> > what I gather, is to give me a goto time function that I can just type
> in
>> > "+3:00" or whatever to go 3 minutes ahead or whatever I need to find 
>> > the
>> > next place to delete or end the deletion or whatever.
>> >
>> > - Original Message - 
>> > From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> > Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 10:03 PM
>> > Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>> >
>> >
>> >> Blind people, in my view can play a tremendous role behind the scenes
> if
>> >> only given the chance. In mhy case I was labeled as one of the best
> audio
>> >> editors in the business. Keep in mind that in those days we had 
>> >> nothing
>> >> more
>> >> to work with than a greese pencil, audio tape and splicing tape. Today
>> >> working with any of the editing programs is a breeze. With the best of
>> >> physical editing we could never achieve the accuracy that electronic
>> >> editing
>> >> brings to this new age of technology. I have yet to play with some of
>> >> these
>> >> programs. My experience has only been with a program caalled Dallett.
>> >> Wit Dallett you can do just about anything that you can do with sound
>> >> forge
>> >> and gold wave. You don't want to go out and buy Dallett unless you 
>> >> have
>> >> very
>> >> deep pockets, and I mean deep pockets. .
>> >> - Original Message - 
>> >> From: "Chuck Adkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> >> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 10:39 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> You are so correct. I have a friend at our local adult sstation who
>> >>> tells
>> >>> me
>> >>> when he has a shift, he goes in to the control room and has two
> buttons.
>> >>> One
>> >>> is the mic, and the other is marked "Next Event!" All of his scripts
> are
>> >>> on
>> >>> the screne as is his log, playlist, show, you name it. Not many
> stations
>> >>> use
>> >>> CD's anymore, and get their music from a music service or download a
>> >>> packagge from somewhere.
>> >>>
>> >>> There are some blind people doing operations work and behind the 
>> >>> scene
>> >>> stuff, but I don't know of many on the air. I would like to hear from
>> >>> anybody using Audiovolt, and other stuff. I've used Enco on a 
>> >>> limmited
>> >>> bassis, and it does work with Window-eyes right out of the box as do
>> >>> many
>> >>> many things, including Sound Forge although the sets do help.
>> >>>
>> >>> Chuck
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> - Original Message - 
>> >>> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> >>> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 10:09 PM
>> >>> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>> >>>
>> >>>
>>  It is my understanding that the 1500 songs that most stations have 
>>  on
>>  their
>>  rotating play list are downloaded from special websites that are set
> up
>>  by
>>  the record companies and are simply inserted into the daily play
> list,
>>  thus
>>  eliminating this particular function. At one time I was a music
>>  librarian
>>  for a Canadian public broadcaster. It was my job to order and
> catalogue
>>  all
>>  of the music into a national database with a number of different
>>  information
>>  fields to be filled in by the person doing the cataloguing. Back 
>>  then
>>  we
>>  had physical compact discs that we could

Fw: [Blind Audio] Pocket dab-radio.

2006-05-26 Thread Anders Holmberg



Hello!
Anybody here who knows a good pocket dab radio?
I cant seem to find one while searching on the internet.
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Re: Winamp Version 5.22 is Available

2006-05-26 Thread Gary Wood
This version of Winamp has a lot of great new features!
- Original Message - 
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Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 7:50 PM
Subject: Winamp Version 5.22 is Available


> Winamp version 5.22 is now available and one place where you can
> download it from is at
> www.majorgeeks.com/Winamp_5_Full_d2490.html.  Here are the changes in
> this version:
>
> New: loading of additional playlist formats: ASX/WAX/WMX/WVX, WPL, B4S
> New: [gen_ff] modern skin unicode support
> New: [in_wm] burning of DRM protected files (if allowed by content 
> provider)
> New: [ml_pmp] transfer of playlists to portable devices
> Improved: More informative CD burning status window
> Improved: [gen_ff] modern skinning engine speed optimizations
> Improved: [gen_jumpex] jump-to-file search response
> Improved: [gen_tray] enhanced icon pack support plus more... (thanks DrO)
> Improved: [in_wm] seeking improvements
> Improved: [in_wm] gapless WMA support
> Improved: [ml_nowplaying] Redesigned 'Now Playing' media library view
> Improved: [pmp_ipod] Loading times for iPods reduced
> Fixed: Winamp won't restore after being minimized with a dialog box open
> Fixed: $abbr() title formatting lockup
> Fixed: Add Folder adds tracks BEFORE the last track
> Fixed: Clicking 'Next' in Fullscreen video OSD acts like clicking it twice
> Fixed: Rating in pledit right-click context menu always shows "No Rating"
> Fixed: Stop with fadeout (Shift+V) just stops playback, no fadeout
> Fixed: CD burning bugs and crashes
> Fixed: Delete key not working in Online Services or SC Wire search
> Fixed: [gen_jumpex] handling of playlist with more than 65,536 files
> Fixed: [gen_jumpex] 'on end of queue' fixed
> Fixed: [gen_jumpex] modern skin pledit docked toolbar mode not remembered
> Fixed: [gen_jumpex] ML size/position not remembered when switching
> from Classic to
> Modern and back to Classic skin
> Fixed: [gen_jumpex] misc bug fixes
> Fixed: [gen_ml] playlists root view slowness bug
> Fixed: [gen_ml] Modern skin: Media Library > View (menu) > Devices
> Fixed: [in_midi] corrupt header crash
> Fixed: [in_mp4] metadata writing crash
> Fixed: [in_mp4] seek bug when using right arrow key
> Fixed: [in_mp3] MPEG-2 and MPEG-2.5 Layer 3 playback crash
> Fixed: [in_mp3] Winamp crashes when trying to play any wrongly named .aac 
> file
> Fixed: [in_wave] WAV burning fix
> Fixed: [in_wave] Locking files (wav's can't be renamed/deleted)
> Fixed: [in_wm] lockup on wma with expired/unrenewable drm license
> Fixed: [in_wm] out of sync audio/video on some WMV streams
> Fixed: [in_vorbis] fullpath shown in playlist for tagless files with
> atf disabled
> Fixed: [ml_pmp] Duplicates being synchronized
> Fixed: [ml_pmp] Several crashes during transfers
> Fixed: [out_ds] Can't select different Output Device with two active
> instances of
> out_ds
> Fixed: [out_ds] incorrect enumeration of stereo outputs for two of
> same pro soundcard
>
>
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Re: broadcasting question

2006-05-26 Thread Gary Wood
But it seems that if radio stations are relying heavily on computers these 
days, that they should be able to use accessible equipment so that more 
people can take advantage of a dream to get on the radio for the world!
- Original Message - 
From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 8:33 PM
Subject: Re: broadcasting question


> That amount of money could easily buy an entire radio station including 
> the
> building that it is housed in. Unfortunately the vast majority of
> broadcasters are not willing to pay for the cost of adaptive equipment nor
> are they willing to modify their equipment in order to provide for 
> workplace
> accommodation. With the introduction of computers into the broadcast
> environment the industry has changed from a hands on user friendly 
> workplace
> to one that in today's world looks more like a television studio with
> several monitors that have to be viewed constantly in order to make sure
> that all operating functions are carried out flawlessly. This could be
> anything from: the regular play list, transmitter functions, news feeds,
> station traffic and scheduling, and in many small markets the reading of
> news and commercials. If you really want to get a taste as to what radio 
> is
> all about I would suggest visiting a radio station in your area and talk 
> to
> the staff, and from there you will get a feeling if this is the right
> business for you to be getting into. Another idea is to find a not for
> profit community radio station that is run by volunteers. Volunteers will
> often take the time to show you the ropes of the industry. many of these
> small stations are  hands on operations without a lot of computer 
> equipment
> and software programs. In most cases there is a small eight input control
> board with a telephone hybrid and a couple of CD and cassette players. 
> This
> in my opinion is a foot in the door as they say. An online radio station 
> or
> signing up to perform in announcing function or host on ACB radio is yet
> another option that should seriously be considered. The downside of the
> broadcast industry is that most radio stations are automated and
> unfortunately do not require staffing levels that we experienced five to 
> ten
> years ago. The bottom line here is that you are going to have to do your
> homework and figure out what exactly your strong points are and work on
> them. Do you feel that you would make a good announcer/host? Do you feel
> that you have the skills to write a intelligent news story and do all of 
> the
> research behind the story that you are researching? Are you capable of
> writing copy for commercials? How about your production skills. Do you 
> have
> the production skills to do electronic editing on the fly? The broadcast
> industry is very demanding and expects most of us that have worked in the
> industry to be multitaskers. Personally I have worked in the industry for
> over thirty years and got out of the business just about the time that
> computers and radio automation took over.
>
> 
>
>
> Original Message - 
> From: "Brent Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 7:00 PM
> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>
>
>> Wow! $500,000 would buy an aweful lot of equipment. I know of no studio
>> worth that much in equipment alone unless one was talking about buying an
>> actual building.
>>
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Brandon Hicks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 5:31 PM
>> Subject: broadcasting question
>>
>>
>>> hi list,
>>> I'm interested in going into radio broadcasting. I know there are people
>>> out
>>> there who have done it, so i emailed a local school that teaches a 
>>> course
>>> for broadcasting. here is the reply I received when i asked about a 
>>> blind
>>> person attending.
>>>
>>> Hi Brandon, sorry about the delay in getting back to you. Unfortunately
>>> this
>>> is not a program that is suitable to the visually impaired. Mainly
>>> because
>>> the cost of accomodating the expense of required equipment would exceed
>>> over
>>> $500,000.00.  Not only the expense, but radio stations and their
>>> corporate
>>> ownership will never incur such an expense, nor is it feasible to create
>>> a
>>> studio suitable for this. I understand your disappointment, however,
>>> wanted
>>> to be very honest with you regarding the reality of this. I truly wish
>>> you
>>> well in all of your future endeavors and if there is anything you 
>>> require
>>> further information on, please feel free to email or call me.  Once
>>> again,
>>> thank you for your interest in CSMB.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Jacquie Hammond
>>> President/CSMB
>>>
>>> Now what is this 500 thousand dollar cost all about? I would be able to,
>>> as
>>> far as I know and I did visit a radio studio to use the mixing boards,
>>> and
>>> they

RE: Would someone check this link for me?

2006-05-26 Thread Pam Drake
Hello,

I hope this is not a repeat of some one else's findings.  I didn't find any
further messages in the Outlook conversation but by this time you may have
already found the answer to your question.  

I located the link and the stream plays just fine.  

I saw the homepage and figured I'd better keep looking since you had had
problems.  I did not look for a real player stream so am wondering if you
only have the Media Player url now.  In any case, the station is very busily
and smoothly playing.  

Btw, I'm going to save this message with the url.  There are a lot of
intresting sites.  

I am wondering whether the WCBSstreams are still active.  Last I heard CBS
had gone sports and I thought they had changed format.  

Hope this helps you with  your troubleshooting.  

Pam



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Dana S. Leslie
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 2:49 PM
To: BlindTech; PC-Audio
Subject: Would someone check this link for me?

Would someone please go to my Media web page:
http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/media.shtml,
find the link for Cape Talk 567 (the link for the Windows Media stream, not
the home page), and test it, for me? Whenever I enter the associated URL
directly into either WMP or Realplayer, it works fine. But, whenever I click
on the link on my web page, whichever player I have associated with .asx
files (either WMP or Realplayer) reports that the stream cannot be found. 
I'd like to know if others have the same problem when clicking on the link
on my web page, or if the problem may be something peculiar to my system.

Thanks.

Blessed Be,

Dana
that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A

D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Skype: dsleslie
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Re: broadcasting question

2006-05-26 Thread Bob Seed
I personally know of a number of stations in Canada that are operated
completely by one person. Most of the work is contracted out in order to
save money. Take for an example the Jack format. The format has become
popular in both the  United States and Canada. The stations that bought the
rights to the format cleaned house, and rely completely on Jack radio
automation 24/7. Just load the computer and the program runs indefinitely.
Why hire people when Jack can do the job. This of course does not make good 
radio, but try to convince the owners of such stations that there has to be 
a human element to overlook things. .
I think that it was Lord Thompson that said "Owning a radio station licence 
is like having a licence to print money."

- Original Message - 
From: "Gary Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 7:45 PM
Subject: Re: broadcasting question


> But it seems that if radio stations are relying heavily on computers these
> days, that they should be able to use accessible equipment so that more
> people can take advantage of a dream to get on the radio for the world!
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 8:33 PM
> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>
>
>> That amount of money could easily buy an entire radio station including
>> the
>> building that it is housed in. Unfortunately the vast majority of
>> broadcasters are not willing to pay for the cost of adaptive equipment
>> nor
>> are they willing to modify their equipment in order to provide for
>> workplace
>> accommodation. With the introduction of computers into the broadcast
>> environment the industry has changed from a hands on user friendly
>> workplace
>> to one that in today's world looks more like a television studio with
>> several monitors that have to be viewed constantly in order to make sure
>> that all operating functions are carried out flawlessly. This could be
>> anything from: the regular play list, transmitter functions, news feeds,
>> station traffic and scheduling, and in many small markets the reading of
>> news and commercials. If you really want to get a taste as to what radio
>> is
>> all about I would suggest visiting a radio station in your area and talk
>> to
>> the staff, and from there you will get a feeling if this is the right
>> business for you to be getting into. Another idea is to find a not for
>> profit community radio station that is run by volunteers. Volunteers will
>> often take the time to show you the ropes of the industry. many of these
>> small stations are  hands on operations without a lot of computer
>> equipment
>> and software programs. In most cases there is a small eight input control
>> board with a telephone hybrid and a couple of CD and cassette players.
>> This
>> in my opinion is a foot in the door as they say. An online radio station
>> or
>> signing up to perform in announcing function or host on ACB radio is yet
>> another option that should seriously be considered. The downside of the
>> broadcast industry is that most radio stations are automated and
>> unfortunately do not require staffing levels that we experienced five to
>> ten
>> years ago. The bottom line here is that you are going to have to do your
>> homework and figure out what exactly your strong points are and work on
>> them. Do you feel that you would make a good announcer/host? Do you feel
>> that you have the skills to write a intelligent news story and do all of
>> the
>> research behind the story that you are researching? Are you capable of
>> writing copy for commercials? How about your production skills. Do you
>> have
>> the production skills to do electronic editing on the fly? The broadcast
>> industry is very demanding and expects most of us that have worked in the
>> industry to be multitask. Personally I have worked in the industry for
>> over thirty years and got out of the business just about the time that
>> computers and radio automation took over.
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> Original Message - 
>> From: "Brent Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 7:00 PM
>> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>>
>>
>>> Wow! $500,000 would buy an awful lot of equipment. I know of no studio
>>> worth that much in equipment alone unless one was talking about buying
>>> an
>>> actual building.
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Brandon Hicks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 5:31 PM
>>> Subject: broadcasting question
>>>
>>>
 hi list,
 I'm interested in going into radio broadcasting. I know there are
 people
 out
 there who have done it, so I emailed a local school that teaches a
 course
 for broadcasting. here is the reply I received when I asked about a
 blind
 person attending.

 Hi Brandon, sor

Re: Would someone check this link for me?

2006-05-26 Thread Dana S. Leslie
Pam,

Several others, from the blindtech list, have also reported no problem with 
the link on my Media page. Apparently, it's something peculiar in my system 
that is preventing me from using that link, and only that link. I certainly 
don't understand it.

BTW, I don't know what gave you the idea that WCBS-AM had gone all sports. 
It's been all-news for over 30/35 years now.

Thanks.

Dana
- Original Message - 
From: "Pam Drake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" 
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 8:09 PM
Subject: RE: Would someone check this link for me?


Hello,

I hope this is not a repeat of some one else's findings.  I didn't find any
further messages in the Outlook conversation but by this time you may have
already found the answer to your question.

I located the link and the stream plays just fine.

I saw the homepage and figured I'd better keep looking since you had had
problems.  I did not look for a real player stream so am wondering if you
only have the Media Player url now.  In any case, the station is very busily
and smoothly playing.

Btw, I'm going to save this message with the url.  There are a lot of
intresting sites.

I am wondering whether the WCBSstreams are still active.  Last I heard CBS
had gone sports and I thought they had changed format.

Hope this helps you with  your troubleshooting.

Pam



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Dana S. Leslie
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 2:49 PM
To: BlindTech; PC-Audio
Subject: Would someone check this link for me?

Would someone please go to my Media web page:
http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/media.shtml,
find the link for Cape Talk 567 (the link for the Windows Media stream, not
the home page), and test it, for me? Whenever I enter the associated URL
directly into either WMP or Realplayer, it works fine. But, whenever I click
on the link on my web page, whichever player I have associated with .asx
files (either WMP or Realplayer) reports that the stream cannot be found.
I'd like to know if others have the same problem when clicking on the link
on my web page, or if the problem may be something peculiar to my system.

Thanks.

Blessed Be,

Dana
that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A

D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Skype: dsleslie
Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE
Your Source for Discounted Ideas
http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/


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Loss during file splitting

2006-05-26 Thread Stephen Jolley
When file splitting after a period of time eg. an hour, Total Recorder and 
Replay A/V perform differently.
TR splits even on syllable and loses nothing.
Replay A/V seems to loose about 12 seconds of data.
Does anyone know how this loss can be prevented with Replay A/V?

Stephen Jolley
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Re: Would someone check this link for me?

2006-05-26 Thread Dan Kerstetter
Hi Donna.

The stream works just fine.

Dan Kerstetter
- Original Message - 
From: "Dana S. Leslie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "BlindTech" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "PC-Audio" 

Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 5:48 PM
Subject: Would someone check this link for me?


> Would someone please go to my Media web page:
> http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/media.shtml,
> find the link for Cape Talk 567 (the link for the Windows Media stream, 
> not
> the home page), and test it, for me? Whenever I enter the associated URL
> directly into either WMP or Realplayer, it works fine. But, whenever I 
> click
> on the link on my web page, whichever player I have associated with .asx
> files (either WMP or Realplayer) reports that the stream cannot be found.
> I'd like to know if others have the same problem when clicking on the link
> on my web page, or if the problem may be something peculiar to my system.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Blessed Be,
>
> Dana
> that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A
>
> D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Skype: dsleslie
> Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE
> Your Source for Discounted Ideas
> http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/
>
>
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Replay AV Stopping recording

2006-05-26 Thread Peter Scanlon
I cannot seem to stop a recoding which I have set up.

I have told it to capture by downloading, and told it to record 
immediately. Now I want to stop it.
When I go to the list of shows, it definitely shows it is capturing.

The manual says.

Here's how to start recording a scheduled show immediately:
List of 4 items
1. Right click the show to record.
2. Click Start Record/Download from the pop-up menu.
3. When you want to stop recording, right click the show again, and 
click Stop Record/Download from the pop-up menu.
4. Answer Yes when you are asked "Would you like to save the current 
recording?"



I do not get step 4. I am just put into the show properties area.

Help appreciated.

P.


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Re: broadcasting question

2006-05-26 Thread Brent Harding
Well, I think they are required to be auto for a certain period, then they 
have DJ's. I know Kjac is one station of the Jac format that has jocks on. 
When I first tried listening to it though, it was all music.

- Original Message - 
From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 7:17 PM
Subject: Re: broadcasting question


>I personally know of a number of stations in Canada that are operated
> completely by one person. Most of the work is contracted out in order to
> save money. Take for an example the Jack format. The format has become
> popular in both the  United States and Canada. The stations that bought 
> the
> rights to the format cleaned house, and rely completely on Jack radio
> automation 24/7. Just load the computer and the program runs indefinitely.
> Why hire people when Jack can do the job. This of course does not make 
> good
> radio, but try to convince the owners of such stations that there has to 
> be
> a human element to overlook things. .
> I think that it was Lord Thompson that said "Owning a radio station 
> licence
> is like having a licence to print money."
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Gary Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 7:45 PM
> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>
>
>> But it seems that if radio stations are relying heavily on computers 
>> these
>> days, that they should be able to use accessible equipment so that more
>> people can take advantage of a dream to get on the radio for the world!
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 8:33 PM
>> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>>
>>
>>> That amount of money could easily buy an entire radio station including
>>> the
>>> building that it is housed in. Unfortunately the vast majority of
>>> broadcasters are not willing to pay for the cost of adaptive equipment
>>> nor
>>> are they willing to modify their equipment in order to provide for
>>> workplace
>>> accommodation. With the introduction of computers into the broadcast
>>> environment the industry has changed from a hands on user friendly
>>> workplace
>>> to one that in today's world looks more like a television studio with
>>> several monitors that have to be viewed constantly in order to make sure
>>> that all operating functions are carried out flawlessly. This could be
>>> anything from: the regular play list, transmitter functions, news feeds,
>>> station traffic and scheduling, and in many small markets the reading of
>>> news and commercials. If you really want to get a taste as to what radio
>>> is
>>> all about I would suggest visiting a radio station in your area and talk
>>> to
>>> the staff, and from there you will get a feeling if this is the right
>>> business for you to be getting into. Another idea is to find a not for
>>> profit community radio station that is run by volunteers. Volunteers 
>>> will
>>> often take the time to show you the ropes of the industry. many of these
>>> small stations are  hands on operations without a lot of computer
>>> equipment
>>> and software programs. In most cases there is a small eight input 
>>> control
>>> board with a telephone hybrid and a couple of CD and cassette players.
>>> This
>>> in my opinion is a foot in the door as they say. An online radio station
>>> or
>>> signing up to perform in announcing function or host on ACB radio is yet
>>> another option that should seriously be considered. The downside of the
>>> broadcast industry is that most radio stations are automated and
>>> unfortunately do not require staffing levels that we experienced five to
>>> ten
>>> years ago. The bottom line here is that you are going to have to do your
>>> homework and figure out what exactly your strong points are and work on
>>> them. Do you feel that you would make a good announcer/host? Do you feel
>>> that you have the skills to write a intelligent news story and do all of
>>> the
>>> research behind the story that you are researching? Are you capable of
>>> writing copy for commercials? How about your production skills. Do you
>>> have
>>> the production skills to do electronic editing on the fly? The broadcast
>>> industry is very demanding and expects most of us that have worked in 
>>> the
>>> industry to be multitask. Personally I have worked in the industry for
>>> over thirty years and got out of the business just about the time that
>>> computers and radio automation took over.
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> Original Message - 
>>> From: "Brent Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 7:00 PM
>>> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>>>
>>>
 Wow! $500,000 would buy an awful lot of equipment. I know of no studio
 worth that much in equipment alone unless one was talking about buying
 an
 actual building.



Re: broadcasting question

2006-05-26 Thread Bob Seed
It is possible that they may have some live programming in prime time, but I 
would venture to say that in off hours it is 100% automation. When it is 
raining cats and dogs and the announcer says that it is bright and sunny you 
know damn well that the station is on automatic pilot. Not good programming 
as far as I am  concerned. besides I probably have more songs on my ipod 
than most stations have on their play list.
- Original Message - 
From: "Brent Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 10:48 PM
Subject: Re: broadcasting question


> Well, I think they are required to be auto for a certain period, then they
> have DJ's. I know Kjac is one station of the Jac format that has jocks on.
> When I first tried listening to it though, it was all music.
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 7:17 PM
> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>
>
>>I personally know of a number of stations in Canada that are operated
>> completely by one person. Most of the work is contracted out in order to
>> save money. Take for an example the Jack format. The format has become
>> popular in both the  United States and Canada. The stations that bought
>> the
>> rights to the format cleaned house, and rely completely on Jack radio
>> automation 24/7. Just load the computer and the program runs 
>> indefinitely.
>> Why hire people when Jack can do the job. This of course does not make
>> good
>> radio, but try to convince the owners of such stations that there has to
>> be
>> a human element to overlook things. .
>> I think that it was Lord Thompson that said "Owning a radio station
>> licence
>> is like having a licence to print money."
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Gary Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 7:45 PM
>> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>>
>>
>>> But it seems that if radio stations are relying heavily on computers
>>> these
>>> days, that they should be able to use accessible equipment so that more
>>> people can take advantage of a dream to get on the radio for the world!
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 8:33 PM
>>> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>>>
>>>
 That amount of money could easily buy an entire radio station including
 the
 building that it is housed in. Unfortunately the vast majority of
 broadcasters are not willing to pay for the cost of adaptive equipment
 nor
 are they willing to modify their equipment in order to provide for
 workplace
 accommodation. With the introduction of computers into the broadcast
 environment the industry has changed from a hands on user friendly
 workplace
 to one that in today's world looks more like a television studio with
 several monitors that have to be viewed constantly in order to make 
 sure
 that all operating functions are carried out flawlessly. This could be
 anything from: the regular play list, transmitter functions, news 
 feeds,
 station traffic and scheduling, and in many small markets the reading 
 of
 news and commercials. If you really want to get a taste as to what 
 radio
 is
 all about I would suggest visiting a radio station in your area and 
 talk
 to
 the staff, and from there you will get a feeling if this is the right
 business for you to be getting into. Another idea is to find a not for
 profit community radio station that is run by volunteers. Volunteers
 will
 often take the time to show you the ropes of the industry. many of 
 these
 small stations are  hands on operations without a lot of computer
 equipment
 and software programs. In most cases there is a small eight input
 control
 board with a telephone hybrid and a couple of CD and cassette players.
 This
 in my opinion is a foot in the door as they say. An online radio 
 station
 or
 signing up to perform in announcing function or host on ACB radio is 
 yet
 another option that should seriously be considered. The downside of the
 broadcast industry is that most radio stations are automated and
 unfortunately do not require staffing levels that we experienced five 
 to
 ten
 years ago. The bottom line here is that you are going to have to do 
 your
 homework and figure out what exactly your strong points are and work on
 them. Do you feel that you would make a good announcer/host? Do you 
 feel
 that you have the skills to write a intelligent news story and do all 
 of
 the
 research behind the story that you are researching? Are you capable of
 writing copy for commercials? How about your production skills. Do you
 have

Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-26 Thread David Tanner
Maybe a better way of saying it is to say that in my opinion I do not feel that 
I can get as polished a finished product with Goldwave as I can with SoundForge 
without a lot more work, and a whole lot less flexability.  And, the Goldwave 
noise reduction that is built-in is no place as good as the noise reduction in 
SoundForge.



- Original Message - 
From: "Gary Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge


:I think you can get good broadcast quality from goldwave, but the program is 
: awkward to work with when you are in a hurry.
: 
: - Original Message - 
: From: "David Tanner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
: Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:07 AM
: Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
: 
: 
: >I guess I wouldn't be as concerned about how small a piece as I am things 
: >like the equalizer, noise reduction, click and crackle features, 
: >compression, and mixing choices.  But, that doesn't mean that my needs are 
: >the same as everybody else on this list.  So, at the very least a person 
: >should be compairing Goldwave to at least one other sound editor in a price 
: >range that they can afford.  And, I would be willing to bet that Goldwave 
: >will be fine for 80 percent or more of persons who are not concerned with 
: >getting broadcast quality for every file they edit.
: >
: >
: >
: > - Original Message - 
: > From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: > To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
: > Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 12:59 PM
: > Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
: >
: >
: > : With GW you can edit to within a thousandth of a second or finer. How 
: > much
: > : finer do you want than that?
: > :
: > : Bruce
: > :
: > : -- 
: > : Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he
: > : gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV
: > :
: > : Bruce Toews
: > : E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: > : Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net
: > : Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net
: > : Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
: > :
: > : On Thu, 25 May 2006, Gary Schindler wrote:
: > :
: > : > the only thing I wish that goldwave could do is to be a more precise 
: > or
: > : > finer editor. you can't beat soundforges editing capabilities at any 
: > price.
: > : >
: > : > - Original Message -
: > : > From: "Gary Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: > : > To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
: > : > Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:29 AM
: > : > Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
: > : >
: > : >
: > : >> Some people say, "You get what you pay for!"  But actually, you have 
: > to
: > : >> take
: > : >> a lot of things into consideration when purchasing a sound editor! 
: > What
: > : >> features and abilities you want with a sound editor, and also, what 
: > you
: > : >> can
: > : >> afford!
: > : >> - Original Message -
: > : >> From: "Brian Olesen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: > : >> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
: > : >> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 3:42 PM
: > : >> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
: > : >>
: > : >>
: > : >>> HI,
: > : >>> But it's also pretty expensive.
: > : >>>
: > : >>> Best regards
: > : >>> Brian
: > : >>> - Original Message -
: > : >>> From: "Gary Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: > : >>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
: > : >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 5:38 PM
: > : >>> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
: > : >>>
: > : >>>
: > :  I think that from what I've heard so far, that Studio Recorder from 
: > APH
: > :  is
: > :  also quite a program!
: > :  - Original Message -
: > :  From: "David Tanner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: > :  To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
: > :  Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 12:59 AM
: > :  Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
: > : 
: > : 
: > : > I think that the individual needs to take a look at each, decide 
: > what
: > : > they
: > : > really need to do, and after all that then make the decision on 
: > how much
: > : > they are willing to pay to get the editor that will do what they 
: > need to
: > : > do.  I really like SoundForge, but I do a lot of audio for radio
: > : > programs,
: > : > etc.  The person simply wanting to get records to MP3 and clean 
: > the
: > : > files
: > : > up to make them sound good may decide that they don't need all the
: > : > features
: > : > of Soundforge, and that they can good enough quality with Goldwave 
: > or
: > : > Audasity or something else.
: > : >
: > : >
: > : >
: > : > - Original Message -
: > : > From: "Chuck Adkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: > : > To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
: > : > Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 3:06 AM
: > : > Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge
: > : >
: > : >>

Re: broadcasting question

2006-05-26 Thread Johnnie J
Are you in a small market and where would one go to find the jobs in a 
smaller mark, if that is where you are?
If you are in a market of 30, or higher please let me know.
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From: "Jed Barton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 2:05 PM
Subject: RE: broadcasting question


> Brandon,
> That's bunch of crap.
> I'm totally blind and have been in the industry for 15 years.
> They have a lot of growing up to do
> Hit me back, and we can talk about it.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Gary Wood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 4:00 PM
> To: PC audio discussion list.
> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>
>
> This doesn't sound like they were maybe being totally fair with you!
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Brandon Hicks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 6:31 PM
> Subject: broadcasting question
>
>
>> hi list,
>> I'm interested in going into radio broadcasting. I know there are
>> people
>> out
>> there who have done it, so i emailed a local school that teaches a
> course
>> for broadcasting. here is the reply I received when i asked about a
> blind
>> person attending.
>>
>> Hi Brandon, sorry about the delay in getting back to you.
>> Unfortunately
>> this
>> is not a program that is suitable to the visually impaired. Mainly
> because
>> the cost of accomodating the expense of required equipment would
> exceed
>> over
>> $500,000.00.  Not only the expense, but radio stations and their
> corporate
>> ownership will never incur such an expense, nor is it feasible to
> create a
>> studio suitable for this. I understand your disappointment, however,
>> wanted
>> to be very honest with you regarding the reality of this. I truly wish
> you
>> well in all of your future endeavors and if there is anything you
> require
>> further information on, please feel free to email or call me.  Once
> again,
>> thank you for your interest in CSMB.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Jacquie Hammond
>> President/CSMB
>>
>> Now what is this 500 thousand dollar cost all about? I would be able
>> to,
>> as
>> far as I know and I did visit a radio studio to use the mixing boards,
> and
>> they use windows software for the playlist editing, so it would be a
>> simple
>> matter of creating scripts. I'm quite curious to see, has anyone got
> any
>> clues?
>> thanks
>> Brandon Hicks
>> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Skype: callto://reyuth
>> msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: broadcasting question

2006-05-26 Thread Jed Barton
I'm in the Providence market, which is like 35.

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Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 2:21 AM
To: PC audio discussion list. 
Subject: Re: broadcasting question


Are you in a small market and where would one go to find the jobs in a 
smaller mark, if that is where you are?
If you are in a market of 30, or higher please let me know.
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From: "Jed Barton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" 
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 2:05 PM
Subject: RE: broadcasting question


> Brandon,
> That's bunch of crap.
> I'm totally blind and have been in the industry for 15 years. They 
> have a lot of growing up to do Hit me back, and we can talk about it.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Gary Wood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 4:00 PM
> To: PC audio discussion list.
> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>
>
> This doesn't sound like they were maybe being totally fair with you!
> - Original Message -
> From: "Brandon Hicks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 6:31 PM
> Subject: broadcasting question
>
>
>> hi list,
>> I'm interested in going into radio broadcasting. I know there are 
>> people out
>> there who have done it, so i emailed a local school that teaches a
> course
>> for broadcasting. here is the reply I received when i asked about a
> blind
>> person attending.
>>
>> Hi Brandon, sorry about the delay in getting back to you. 
>> Unfortunately this
>> is not a program that is suitable to the visually impaired. Mainly
> because
>> the cost of accomodating the expense of required equipment would
> exceed
>> over
>> $500,000.00.  Not only the expense, but radio stations and their
> corporate
>> ownership will never incur such an expense, nor is it feasible to
> create a
>> studio suitable for this. I understand your disappointment, however, 
>> wanted to be very honest with you regarding the reality of this. I 
>> truly wish
> you
>> well in all of your future endeavors and if there is anything you
> require
>> further information on, please feel free to email or call me.  Once
> again,
>> thank you for your interest in CSMB.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Jacquie Hammond
>> President/CSMB
>>
>> Now what is this 500 thousand dollar cost all about? I would be able 
>> to, as
>> far as I know and I did visit a radio studio to use the mixing
boards,
> and
>> they use windows software for the playlist editing, so it would be a 
>> simple matter of creating scripts. I'm quite curious to see, has 
>> anyone got
> any
>> clues?
>> thanks
>> Brandon Hicks
>> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Skype: callto://reyuth
>> msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
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Re: Replay AV Stopping recording

2006-05-26 Thread Dean Martineau
Again, the trick to stopping a recording is to hit the context menu 
key and then hit the appropriate letter.  I can't remember offhand if 
the letter to hit is s or p, but you don't want to hit enter as if 
you were in a fully accessible program!  Once you do it this way, you 
will get the dialog asking if you want to save the recording.

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Re: gold wave vs sound forge

2006-05-26 Thread Gary Wood
Ane maybe if Studio Recorder had the effects that Soundforge has, with all 
the accessibility, maybe people might move to Studio Recorder!
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> Hi Folks:
>
> Well! This has indeed been an interesting thread.  Perhaps it would be a
> good idea if someone, who is well versed in sound editing, could give a
> side-bi-side comparison, emphasizing the strengths similarities, and
> weaknesses of both editors. This is especially important for those who 
> have
> not yet formed a bias to one or the other programs. In otherwards, let's 
> get
> the facts. I would also recommend that the work be accomplished without 
> the
> use of script or set files as this would most certainly affect the 
> outcome.
> SF has had a lot of work done on Scripts over the years: both free and
> comercial scripts. Now it may be, that one or the other programs is better
> suited for scripting or creating set files. This too is a very important
> item for consideration and certainly may be a factor in determining which
> editor one should purchase. It is, however, important to distinguish 
> between
> the off-the-shelf capabilities of the editor it self as apposed to the
> addition of Script or Set files.
>
> Thanks all over the place for listening.
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Re: Replay AV Stopping recording

2006-05-26 Thread Peter Scanlon
OK, I had to crash out and loose the recording, but it wasn't 
crucial. I'll experiment and see how it goes.

I hope these Replay AV people are receptive to some accessability improvements.

P.

At 03:45 PM 27/05/2006, you wrote:
>Again, the trick to stopping a recording is to hit the context menu
>key and then hit the appropriate letter.  I can't remember offhand if
>the letter to hit is s or p, but you don't want to hit enter as if
>you were in a fully accessible program!  Once you do it this way, you
>will get the dialog asking if you want to save the recording.
>
>Dean
>
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