In need of help trying to find keyboard commands for brio edge 40

[Chenelle Hancock]

> Hello everyone,
Are there any places that I can go to find the proper keyboard commands to use 
my braille edge 40 display? I am having difficulties navigating my MacBook Pro 
13 inch model with my display. I am new to using my new display with my MacBook 
Pro 13 inch computer which is a 2015 mono. If anyone has any suggestions I 
would greatly appreciate your assistance. I will be taking a class online and I 
need to be able to navigate through the website successfully in order for me to 
complete my class. Thank you so much and have a great day.
Sincerely, Chenelle Hancock.
> 

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mi fi question:hello all,

[Chenelle Hancock]

i am  going to be purchasing the latest i-pad  at the beginning of june before 
i  head off to dallas texas for national federation of the blinds  national 
convention on  june, 3o/ july, 7/12.  i do not want to pay the 45 dollars that 
at&t  charges for teathering. i was told by apple inc that if i purchased an mi 
fi box for my i-pad  with just wi fi and  not wi fi and 3.g. added to it. that 
it would be much more  cheeper for me in the long run.  furthermore, i wanted 
to know  if this device is worth my  time and money? also  is it  on the 
expensive  side? 
thank  you so much for your time i most greatly appreciate it.
sincerely, chenelle.

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Re: Digest for macvisionaries@googlegroups.com - 25 Messages in 11 Topics

[Chenelle Hancock]

hhello all,
i just  recently received my brand new time capsule  device earlier this 
morning.  it was not that difficult to  set up after contacting the apple  
store online and  having them  walk me through the process. now i am currently 
backing up my files onto  my time capsule. however, i do not know if any of you 
have ever ran into this problem before. I  currently  live in the basement of 
my grandparents house thus the internet signal isn't that strong  down here 
etc... so   i had my counsilor  purchase me an time capsule infering that  my 
signal strength would be increased  due to  the time capsule having an router  
attached to the exturnal hard drive. well while setting it up with apple inc 
earlier this morning they informed  me that  i would have to  purchase an 
airport express in order for the signal strength to increase at a faster tae 
then what it is right now.  so i wanted to know  if  i would have to buy the 
airport express at the end of the omnth just to increase the signal strength in 
my room so my internet could go faster?. or is there another way to go about 
increasing  it without buying an airport express? 
thank you so much for your time i really appreciate it.
sincerely, chenelle

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On Mar 9, 2012, at 1:44 PM, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:

>   Today's Topic Summary
> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
> 
> Google eBooks [1 Update]
> ITunes crashing all the time now [7 Updates]
> Messages beta question [3 Updates]
> pairing the Alva BC640 feature pack with a Mac? [1 Update]
> installing lion [3 Updates]
> Status Report Question [2 Updates]
> OT: Is there a list for Bllind Chrome OS and Chromebooks? [1 Update]
> IOS 5.1 [3 Updates]
> Let's hear each other! [2 Updates]
> iOS 5.1 and TypeInBraille [1 Update]
> First impressions of iOS 5.1 [1 Update]
>  Google eBooks
> Teresa Cochran  Mar 09 10:43AM -0800  
> 
> Just be sure that 1. flowed text is available for the book and 2. you you set 
> this option in settings if the book isn't read by VO. Scanned pages are not 
> accessible.
>  
> Teresa
>  
> "The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve."--Pete Graham
>  
> On Mar 8, 2012, at 5:44 PM, Greg Aikens wrote:
>  
>  
> 
>  ITunes crashing all the time now
> Scott Howell  Mar 09 05:40AM -0500  
> 
> Ray you are making a blanket statement here. I upgraded to iTunes 10.6 and I 
> am not experiencing any problems at all. So, I doubt Apple did anything. I 
> suspect there is another issue specific to you.
>  
> On Mar 9, 2012, at 1:36 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> Elena Brescacin  Mar 09 12:59PM +0100  
> 
> I have not crashes and problems at all, too
> Till now! I did not add anything to my library yet
> The only trouble I find with iTunes, is while exploring the device. I
> mean: I go to the second bar, where to interact to find used and
> available space
> I do not know the english term. but it's after the radio buttons
> telling info, summary, apps, ringtones, music...
> it's the object containt the "sync" and "apply" button, when managing
> ringtones or apps or music or other files syncing.
> Once, it said, for example:
> capacity: 28.7 in GB
> audio: 2.5 gb
> apps: 7.5 gb
> and so on.
> Now, it says:
> 28.5 gb. 2.5 gb. 7.5 gb...
> without telling you what the number corresponds to! I already sent an
> e-mail to accessibility team explaining the issue.
> I talked to a friend using Mountain Lion's preview version and he does
> not notice crashes on iTunes but has the same problem as mine.
> I am talking, of course, about iTunes for mac; i have not tested
> windows version yet.
>  
> 
> matthew Dyer  Mar 09 10:45AM -0500  
> 
> Ray,
>  
> I am having no problem with itunes 5.6. Infact the problems with tracks 
> skippping has now been fixed. Not sure what you may be having. Have you tried 
> reparing permisions? 
>  
> Matthew
>  
>  
> On Mar 9, 2012, at 1:36 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>  
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> matthew Dyer
> ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com
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>  
> 
> Mary Otten  Mar 09 09:55AM -0800  
> 
> Ray,
> I'm curious if you are running Lion or SL. I'm still on SL, and I'm not 
> experiencing any problems as you described in the new ITunes. In fact, if 
> anything, I'd say it is snappier. Now when I first arrow to the store on the 
> sources table, I'm not stuck with a bunch of busy busy .
>  
> Mary
>  
> Mary Otten
> motte...@gmail.com
>  
> 
> Donna Goodin  Mar 09 12:57PM -0500  
> 
> Hi all,
>  
> I was seeing the busy busy stuff in iTunes after upgrading this morning, but 
> a Repair P

re: how to find the eject button on a windows computer?.hi matthew:

[Chenelle Hancock]

i infer that it might be located on the  top  right side of your  windows 
computer. however, to remedy  your particular plight i would just go and 
purchase a mac keyboard that is wireless for 69 dollars then you would be able 
to have full access  to your computer and  all of its particular functions.
i hope this helps matthew.
sincerely, chenelle

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Re: Digest for macvisionaries@googlegroups.com - 9 Messages in 6 Topics

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hi all, 
I want to listen to black books on my Mack how do I go about doing that?.
Thanks so much for your help.
Sincerely, chenelle

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On Mar 15, 2012, at 5:09 PM, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:

>   Today's Topic Summary
> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
> 
> National Express [1 Update]
> Using your air in public. [2 Updates]
> Netflix forIPhone [3 Updates]
> Chrome has become unusable [1 Update]
> Games for Mac and MUD Clients and other little questions of new Apple Eater 
> [1 Update]
> Hi [1 Update]
>  National Express
> chris hallsworth  Mar 15 09:00PM  
> 
> For all UK members, does anyone know of an accessible app to book 
> national express coaches? Please advise. Thanks!
> -- 
>  
> Christopher H
>  
> 
>  Using your air in public.
> Esther  Mar 15 10:08AM -1000  
> 
> Hi Vivianna, Alex, Ricardo, Chris, Jane, Garth, Gigi, Emrah, Kawal, and Marc,
>  
> First off, there is a "Find My Mac" program that is like "Find My iPhone" for 
> iOS devices. You can register your machine for it if you are running Lion, 
> and also have enabled iCloud services. Since I've only migrated to Lion about 
> a month ago, and still need to keep my MobileMe services active for a while 
> more, I can't speak directly about this program. However, I can run "Find My 
> iPhone" even from the MobileMe pages with VoiceOver.  It's not as simple as 
> it was with VoiceOver and Safari not upgraded under Snow Leopard, but it's 
> workable for me, so I assume this is also possible for "Find My Mac". (The 
> truly bizarre aspect of this is how much easier it was to use "Find My 
> iPhone" with VoiceOver on version of Leopard -- two versions back -- on a 
> system with OS X 10.5.8 and the latest version of Safari at that time. I 
> switched to one of these machines just to contrast the "Find My iPhone" web 
> experience with VoiceOver, latest Safari, and Lion.) 
>  
> Here's a link to an old New York Times article about "Find My Mac" from last 
> November:
> http://gadgetwise.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/11/25/using-apples-find-my-mac-feature/
> Use Command-Shift-R to read this in Safari Reader.
>  
> Secondly, I highly recommend that everyone register their Apple products 
> using the MySupportProfile page:
> https://supportprofile.apple.com/MySupportProfile.do
>  
> This is a personal service that has been around for at least 8 years, and is 
> designed as a way for customers to keep track of their Apple products. It's 
> not the same as warranty registration, although I think you can register 
> products through the MySupportProfile page. This is meant to be a convenient 
> record for you, the customer, so you can input this information at any time. 
> Although it's obviously easiest to put in this information soon after 
> purchase. You log in with your Apple ID and enter the serial numbers for 
> products you own. Once this is in place, you have a permanent record of your 
> serial numbers and product descriptions all in one place. Items can include 
> your Mac computers, iPhones, Apple TVs, AIrport Express units, Time Capsules, 
> etc. What makes this page useful, in addition to keeping a record of your 
> serial numbers, is that there are related support resources. So you can read 
> about the technical specifications for your model of device, find out whether 
> there are firmware updates, find related articles, and also track service 
> case issues. If you give your Mac or iOS device to a relative, or sell it, 
> you can remove the item from the devices that are registered to you, but you 
> can also provide them with details about the exact product they are getting 
> from you. And, if worst comes to worst, and one of your items is misplaced or 
> stolen, you have an accurate record of the serial number and the detailed 
> product description.
>  
> Understand that the MySupportProfile page is not meant to be a way to make 
> Apple track lost or stolen items. It's a convenient resource for you, the 
> user. The only information that gets added to the pages are for devices whose 
> serial numbers you add. You can find these in your purchase receipts from 
> Apple, or by using the "About this Mac" entry of the Apple menu. (VO-M or 
> Control-F2 to the Apple menu, arrow down to About this Mac, and Navigate with 
> VO-Right arrow to the Version number (e.g. 10.7.3), then VO-Space to cycle 
> through the build to the serial number. You can copy the last phrase to the 
> clipboard with VO-Shift-C, then paste in information anywhere with 
> Command-V.) For those of you using QuickNav, just press Right arrow instead 
> of VO-Right arrow, and select by simultaneously pressing Up and Down arrow 
> keys instead of using VO-Space. And for those of you using TrackPad 
> Commander, use a two-finger double tap near the top of your TrackPad to move 
> to the Apple menu on the menu bar, flick down into to the submenu, then flick 
> down again to "About this Mac" and double tap. In the "About

Re: Digest for macvisionaries@googlegroups.com - 23 Messages in 11 Topics

[Chenelle Hancock]

th it at all. I've tested the 
> notetaker with other computers and it works fine with JAWS on my husband's 
> computer.
>  
> Can somebody give me some ideas as to what to try, or write me off-list, 
> please?
>  
> Thanks bunches,
> Teresa
>  
> 
>  BY Word
> Garth Humphreys  Mar 16 11:24PM +1000  
> 
> By Word is an excellent text editor that I have used on my Mac for a while. I 
> bought it for it's MarkDown support. i noticed that in a recent update they 
> mention the addition of iCloud support for syncing documents between the app 
> and a new IOS app. I haven't tried the IOS yet but I thought this might be of 
> interest to some. I have so many text editors for my iPad/iPhone that I am 
> not sure that I need another one but I will probably buy it anyway just to 
> play around with it.
>  
> Has anyone tried the app - any thoughts?
>  
> Garth 
> @BlindTechMusing
>  
> 
>  Deleting album from iPhone
> chris hallsworth  Mar 16 11:35AM  
> 
> Hello all.
> The subject line says it all. How do I delete a specific album from the 
> iPhone? I went into music, went to the artists tab, double tapped on the 
> artist I am interested in, tried to double tap and hold then while 
> holding swipe to the right on the album I wish to delete, but I wasn't 
> able to delete it. I've tried several times. Please advise. Thanks!
> -- 
>  
> Christopher H
>  
> 
> Kawal Gucukoglu  Mar 16 12:04PM  
> 
> DearChris.
>  
> It is difficult doing what you have asked as I have tried several times and 
> by the way you are following what others have said on the list and some 
> people get it to work but I can't. If any one else has a better method, 
> please let us know.
>  
> Kawal. 
>  
>  
> 
> "Jürgen Fleger"  Mar 16 01:34PM +0100  
> 
> Hi,
>  
> the accessibility team says it's a bug between VoiceOver and iOS that it 
> doesn't work reliably using a swipe to the right as you described. They try 
> to fix it.
>  
> I found two ways to do it anyway:
> 1. Switch off VoiceOver and put your finger on the right place for ruffly one 
> second. Then move the finger to the right. Then you can switch on VoiceOver 
> again and click on the confirm delete button. 
>  
> 2. You are presumably a user of iTunes Match. Switch off iTunes Match on your 
> iPhone and delete content manually via iTunes. Afterwards you can switch 
> iTunes Match on again.
>  
> All the best
> Jürgen
>  
> Am 16.03.2012 um 13:04 schrieb Kawal Gucukoglu:
>  
>  
> 
> Paul Hunt  Mar 16 08:19AM -0500  
> 
> Helo everyone. I struggled with this also. I found that if I double tap and 
> hold with one finger and make a small quick movement immediately after I hear 
> the tone, the prompt will show up and you will be able to delete the elbum or 
> podcast.
>  
>  
> 
>  Digest for macvisionaries@googlegroups.com - 9 Messages in 6 Topics
> Chenelle Hancock  Mar 15 06:15PM -0400  
> 
> Hi all, 
> I want to listen to black books on my Mack how do I go about doing that?.
> Thanks so much for your help.
> Sincerely, chenelle
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
>  
> 
> "Mr. L. Alexander"  Mar 16 07:36AM  
> 
> If we're talking Black books the comedy from Channel 4 starring Bill Bailey, 
> if it's on DVD or another format, you can play it either through DVD player 
> or itunes.
>  
> if not then oops sorry.
>  
> lew
>  
> On 15 Mar 2012, at 22:15, Chenelle Hancock wrote:
>  
>  
> 
>  Amadeus Podcast
> Garth Humphreys  Mar 16 03:57PM +1000  
> 
> Thanks for the podcast Alison. I am looking forward to your next one on 
> Amadeus Pro.
>  
> Garth
> @BlindTechMuing
> On 15/03/2012, at 6:08 PM, Aser Tolentino wrote:
>  
>  
> 
>  Need to confirm the number of songs in iTunes library post MusicMatch
> Kevin Gibbs  Mar 15 06:33PM -0700  
> 
> The thing is, I fly on long international flights where I need my
> whole iTunes library available, even when the phone is in Airplane
> Mode. I don't want to be stuck in a plane and find that some track
> won't play because there's no web access. See my problem?
>  
> 
>  Mac Book Air & cooling fan?
> Philippa Woodcraft  Mar 15 02:33PM -0700  
> 
> hi. i have noticed my MBA's fan is kicking in much much more these
> days. started about a week ago. it kicks in when i'm browsing, word
> processing, or just while the computer is on stand by. this can be on
> my lap, on a table, on a lap tray. Looking under the activity monitor,
> the thing that is using the most CPU is Voice Over. is this the same
> on anyone else's Mac? if it is VO, ho

Re: Digest for macvisionaries@googlegroups.com - 6 Messages in 4 Topics

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hi all,
I  cannot get my right side button undone. For some reason or another it became 
stuck on the inside of the right side corner. Thus I cannot get it  to come 
unstuck. Is there someone that can help me with my wireless keyboard 
plight?.thankssincerely, chenelle

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On Mar 23, 2012, at 6:11 PM, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:

>   Today's Topic Summary
> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
> 
> Navigating in mail on the iPad [was Re: some iPad questions] [2 Updates]
> Using your air in public. [2 Updates]
> Skype and facebook [1 Update]
> Reconnecting a Refreshabraille to an iPod [1 Update]
>  Navigating in mail on the iPad [was Re: some iPad questions]
> Esther  Mar 23 11:06AM -1000  
> 
> Hi Denise,
>  
> The delete button for individual messages is located in a different place on 
> the iPad from where you're used to finding it on the iPhone. If you can find 
> the "move" button, you can just flick right from it to reach the "delete" 
> button on the iPad. Alternatively, if you can find the "compose" button at 
> the top right corner of your screen, you can flick left twice to reach the 
> "delete" button. The four buttons for "move", "delete", "reply", and 
> "compose" pertaining to individual mail messages, that you would find along 
> the bottom of your iPhone screen, are located at the top right of your iPad 
> screen, at the same vertical position as the "Inbox" and "Mailboxes" 
> headings. You'll find the "compose" button if you touch the battery status 
> icon at the top right corner of the active iPad region, and move your finger 
> down slightly. 
>  
> One way to reach the "delete" button on the iPad, regardless of whether you 
> are using landscape or portrait mode, is to use the new "item chooser" 
> gesture introduced under iOS 5. Do a three finger double tap to bring up item 
> chooser menu. Although item chooser is designed to let you enter search 
> strings by typing into a text field, you don't need to type anything. 
> Instead, just flick right until you reach "Delete" and double tap. That will 
> move your focus to "Delete" button for your currently viewed message. Since 
> item chooser lists items in alphabetical order, you may have to flick right 5 
> or more times to get to the entry for "Delete" and double tap. And remember, 
> using item chooser this way only moves your focus to the item you've 
> selected; you still need to execute another double tap to activate the 
> "Delete" button. 
>  
> The way I'm used to deleting individual messages on the iPad is by touching 
> the "Compose" button in the top right corner (in either landscape or portrait 
> orientation), and flicking left twice to the "Delete" button, then double 
> tapping. You do need to learn the boundaries of the active iPad screen 
> region, just as with the iPhone, and a case can help you learn these. If 
> you're using the new smart covers, and your iPad is held in landscape mode, 
> with the home button to the left, you can touch the left or right hinges of 
> the cover at the top of your screen, and feel for the raised bar in the 
> center of the metal hinge. If I move my finger vertically down from the left 
> hinge, with an iPad in landscape mode, I'll first hear "AT&T network, status 
> bar item, double tap to scroll to top", and then "Inbox , 
> back button" in mail. Moving down vertically from the right hinge in 
> landscape mode for mail, I'll first hear "80 per cent battery power, status 
> bar item, double tap to scroll to top". Moving further down, I'll hear 
> "Compose button". If you don't use a case or smart cover, you can mark the 
> boundaries of the active screen region by using elastic bands around your 
> iPad to mark the active boundaries at the top, bottom, and sides, while you 
> learn their positions. If that's too awkward or sounds too dorky, you can use 
> some of those not-too-sticky Post-It page markers, or low-stick brands of 
> tape that are used to temporarily position items, and use them to mark off 
> the corners of the active region. These won't damage the surface of the iPad, 
> but will provide temporary tactile indicators of the edge of the active 
> region. 
>  
> To delete multiple messages from a mailbox, start at the button in the top 
> left corner of the screen. This is also the first element, so you can use a 
> four finger tap in the top half of the screen to navigate there. In landscape 
> mode, this will probably be read as "Inbox , back button" 
> or "Mailboxes, back button". Flick right twice, to the heading and then to 
> the "Edit" button and double tap. The "Edit" button will turn into a "Cancel" 
> button. Now flick right to the individual messages and double tap to mark or 
> unmark your selections. The "Delete" button for your selected messages is in 
> the bottom left corner of the iPad. Here are two ways you can find it, if 
> you're not used to the iPad active screen boundaries: 1) Do a four-finger tap

Re: Digest for macvisionaries@googlegroups.com - 25 Messages in 8 Topics

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hi all
Did you try using primo to read your d

Sentoc fromuments?.
Sincerely, chenelle my iPhone

On Apr 2, 2012, at 11:08 PM, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:

>   Today's Topic Summary
> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
> 
> A Question Regarding OCR [2 Updates]
> Tuneup service [1 Update]
> a guide on pages [6 Updates]
> setting view options for the documents folder [5 Updates]
> HTML5 [2 Updates]
> iTunes Files? [3 Updates]
> Focus40Blue Firmware update 4.57 [5 Updates]
> Lion Questions [1 Update]
>  A Question Regarding OCR
> Jim Gatteys  Apr 02 09:35PM -0500  
> 
> Hi all!
> Has anybody used Abby fine reader express for the mac? I just downloaded a 
> trial version and it was much better than a few years ago. It worked with my 
> old epson perfection scanner and I was able to scan and edit a document. I 
> guess it doesn't have all the bells and whistles of kurzweil but for basic 
> stuff it seemed fine. I am seriously considering a purchase of fine reader.
> Jim
>  
> On Apr 2, 2012, at 8:21 PM, David Tanner wrote:
>  
>  
> -
> Chat with me on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/jimintexas
> Twitter: https://twitter.com/jimintexas
> Skype: jimintexas
> Yahoo or Aim/Ichat: jgatteys
>  
> 
> "Brent Harding"  Apr 02 10:00PM -0500  
> 
> No, I haven't upgraded in many years, didn't think the accuracy of OCR 
> really improved all that much necessarily, only used it for scanning mail 
> once in awhile, but all in one printers sure scan slower than any scanner 
> I've used before. I wish I knew where I put the big box that probably had 
> version 6 in it, but if it's like Jaws or anything else I'll end up with a 
> new disk when I purchase the upgrade. I hope those are still reasonable yet.
>  
> - Original Message - 
> From: "David Tanner" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 8:21 PM
> Subject: Re: A Question Regarding OCR
>  
>  
>  
> 
>  Tuneup service
> "John André Netland"  Apr 01 08:34PM +0200  
> 
> It's not accessible with VoiceOver, but the developer is now aware of the 
> issue, and consider to make it VoiceOver compatible. They were responsive 
> when I contacted them, and will also offer you a refund if you'd rather not 
> wait for a possible VoiceOver compatible version.
>  
> If you write att...@tuneupmedia.com and ask for it to be VoiceOver 
> compatible, I'm sure it will help.
>  
>  
> ***
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> Visit online at www.a-pro-studio.no
> ***
>  
> On 1. apr. 2012, at 11:08, AZ wrote:
>  
>  
> 
>  a guide on pages
> Beefcakes  Mar 31 07:18PM -0400  
> 
> Hi M, how much is that in USA dollars? Thanks a lot, Johnny
>  
> Cakes
>  
>  
> 
> Anne Robertson  Apr 01 08:57AM +0200  
> 
> Hello Johnny,
>  
> €25 in US dollars is currently around $35 but the exchange rate varies.
>  
> Cheers,
>  
> Anne
>  
> 
> Sarai Bucciarelli  Apr 01 10:58AM -0500  
> 
> Hi:
> I missed part of this post. There is a Pages guide?
> On Apr 1, 2012, at 1:57 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> Anne Robertson  Apr 01 06:53PM +0200  
> 
> There is no Pages guide, just a course on Pages available via Skype at a cost 
> of €25 per unit. There are 5 units altogether but not everyone needs all 5.
>  
> Cheers,
>  
> Anne
>  
>  
> On 1 Apr 2012, at 17:58, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> Rose Morales  Apr 01 01:26PM -0400  
> 
> while there is no guide on Pages from a VO perspective, please note that 
> Apple does offer a standard guide free of charge for Pages. In harmony with 
> Ann's comments, you will not learn how to use Pages from a VO perspective. 
> But I still found it to be helpful. I would encourage any of you who need 
> help with Pages to give it a look, if only to know and see what is out there.
> Regards,
> Rose
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
>  
> 
> Esther  Apr 01 08:09AM -1000  
> 
> Hello,
>  
> Since Rose mentioned the Pages User Guide that Apple provides, I thought I'd 
> provide the link to the PDF version of the Pages09 manual:
> http://manuals.info.apple.com/en_US/Pages09_UserGuide.pdf
> This is the English version; in general, you can use the link for "Manuals in 
> other languages" at the Apple support page for manuals to find user guides 
> for their products in different languages:
> http://support.apple.com/manuals/
>  
> HTH. Cheers,
>  
> Esther
>  
> On Apr 1, 2012, at 7:26 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
>  
>  
> 
>  setting view options for the documents folder
> Donna Goodin  Apr 01 10:37AM -0400  
> 
> Hi all,
>  
> I would like to have my files and folders displayed as they are in Windows, 
> with folders listed first, and then all files in that folder listed in 
> alphabetical order. I've looked in the view options, and I seem either to be 
> able to have a completely alphabetical list with files and folders all mixed 
> in together, or to have them sorted by kind, which does separate out the 
> folders, but then separates out the subsequent files by file type. Does 
> anyone know if there is 

prizmo question:

[Chenelle Hancock]

hi all,
i just purchased the prizmo application over a week ago for my i-phone 4.s. and 
i wanted to know how do you delete  your text from the application?
thanks so much i most greatly appreciate it.
sincerely, chenelle

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 8, 2012, at 4:28 PM, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:

>   Today's Topic Summary
> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
> 
> Itines downloaded album and can't find it [7 Updates]
> disregard previous question about folders [1 Update]
> Adding contacts to my mail program [2 Updates]
> off topic! [3 Updates]
> Libre and Open office [6 Updates]
> Workflow not Flowing [1 Update]
> A little help with sorting documents [1 Update]
> Material for showing Apple accessibility solutions [1 Update]
> Merging google calendar with iCal [1 Update]
> e-mail's on mac refusing to delete. [1 Update]
> Is XCode accessible? [1 Update]
>  Itines downloaded album and can't find it
> Jennifer Perdue  Apr 08 02:11PM -0500  
> 
> I hate Itunes, I can't figure it out at all! I'm trying to also delete things 
> that I have played from the internet and is stuck in the Itunes thing and so 
> I don't have any way of putting them in the search thing because they don't 
> all have the same names. 
>  
> When I use VO to navigate I can't fine the Itunes library and so I can't view 
> what's in it. 
>  
> Itunes is stupid and I'm sick of it.
>  
> Jenny and my retired guide Brooks
> On Apr 7, 2012, at 9:42 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> Jennifer Perdue  Apr 08 02:15PM -0500  
> 
> thanks, 
>  
> Can you tell me how to delete things that I have played from the internet 
> that have put themselves, unwanted, in my iTunes and not have to do it one by 
> one?
>  
> I hate Itunes!
>  
> Jenny and my retired guide Brooks
> On Apr 7, 2012, at 9:55 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> Lewis Alexander  Apr 08 08:18PM +0100  
> 
> hang on in there. don't give up on itunes just yet, you need to spend some 
> time getting used to the interface and the way it behaves. what OS are you 
> using? lion or snow leopard?
>  
> let me see if I can spend some time with you off list on this, bear with me 
> though, most of the week I'm snowed under getting ready for the trade show 
> and taking on a project I really want to get stuck in to.
>  
> cheers
>  
> lew
>  
> On 8 Apr 2012, at 20:11, Jennifer Perdue wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> Mark BurningHawk Baxter  Apr 08 12:30PM -0700
> 
> I'm sorry Brooks didn't work out for you As for the rest of your message, I 
> can't make much headway toward explaining it with the terms you use and the 
> negativity.  I use Itunes and like it quite well, but maybe it's different in 
> Lion.
>  
>  
> • Mark BurningHawk Baxter
> • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969
> • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com
> • My home page:
> • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
>  
> 
> Jennifer Perdue  Apr 08 03:06PM -0500  
> 
> Hi Lu,
>  
> I'm using Lion and take your time. I just had to retire my guide dog sooner 
> than I thought and so I'm not in the best frame of mind today so you'll have 
> to be patient. 
>  
> for the rest of the list, I still haven't figured out how to reply off list 
> so sorry for the post.
>  
> Jenny and my retired guide Brooks
> On Apr 8, 2012, at 2:18 PM, Lewis Alexander wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> Lewis Alexander  Apr 08 09:09PM +0100  
> 
> email me off list at freemacsforthebl...@gmail.com.
>  
> don't worry. I know what it's like on the guide dog side of things.
>  
> take care, keep smiling and remember, no matter what, there's always someone 
> there by your side.
>  
> lew
>  
> On 8 Apr 2012, at 21:06, Jennifer Perdue wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> Ricardo Walker  Apr 08 04:28PM -0400  
> 
> Its not different. Its the same exact app that all Mac users are using 
> regardless of OS.
>  
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
>  
>  
> 
>  disregard previous question about folders
> jason lefevers  Apr 08 01:54PM -0400  
> 
> hello again after some more playing around I have figured it out thank you 
> all very much. jason
>  
> 
>  Adding contacts to my mail program
> Beefcakes  Apr 08 12:29PM -0400  
> 
> Hi Ricardo and everybody, happy Easter to everyone who celebrates., I 
> understand what you are saying, but I'm also talking about the ad contact 
> button I see in the mail program when you reply to someone. How does that 
> work I tried? I tried adding a contact by hitting the add add contact button, 
> but I don't know how that works it doesn't seem to work for me. Perhaps 
> someone can clearly up on this? Thanks so much have a great day, John
>  
> Cakes
>  
>  
> 
> jason lefevers  Apr 08 01:52PM -0400  
> 
> hello, when you tap on the add a contact button on your email it should bring 
> you to the list of contacts that you have on your phone. after that all you 
> have to do is select which person you want to send a message and select them 
> and it will bring you 

how to create folders on your i-phone using v.o. commands?hi all,

[Chenelle Hancock]

i wanted to know how do you  create folders for your applications using your 
b.o. key board commands?
thanks so much i really do appreciate it.
sincerely, chenelle

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 8, 2012, at 4:28 PM, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:

>   Today's Topic Summary
> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
> 
> Itines downloaded album and can't find it [7 Updates]
> disregard previous question about folders [1 Update]
> Adding contacts to my mail program [2 Updates]
> off topic! [3 Updates]
> Libre and Open office [6 Updates]
> Workflow not Flowing [1 Update]
> A little help with sorting documents [1 Update]
> Material for showing Apple accessibility solutions [1 Update]
> Merging google calendar with iCal [1 Update]
> e-mail's on mac refusing to delete. [1 Update]
> Is XCode accessible? [1 Update]
>  Itines downloaded album and can't find it
> Jennifer Perdue  Apr 08 02:11PM -0500  
> 
> I hate Itunes, I can't figure it out at all! I'm trying to also delete things 
> that I have played from the internet and is stuck in the Itunes thing and so 
> I don't have any way of putting them in the search thing because they don't 
> all have the same names. 
>  
> When I use VO to navigate I can't fine the Itunes library and so I can't view 
> what's in it. 
>  
> Itunes is stupid and I'm sick of it.
>  
> Jenny and my retired guide Brooks
> On Apr 7, 2012, at 9:42 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> Jennifer Perdue  Apr 08 02:15PM -0500  
> 
> thanks, 
>  
> Can you tell me how to delete things that I have played from the internet 
> that have put themselves, unwanted, in my iTunes and not have to do it one by 
> one?
>  
> I hate Itunes!
>  
> Jenny and my retired guide Brooks
> On Apr 7, 2012, at 9:55 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> Lewis Alexander  Apr 08 08:18PM +0100  
> 
> hang on in there. don't give up on itunes just yet, you need to spend some 
> time getting used to the interface and the way it behaves. what OS are you 
> using? lion or snow leopard?
>  
> let me see if I can spend some time with you off list on this, bear with me 
> though, most of the week I'm snowed under getting ready for the trade show 
> and taking on a project I really want to get stuck in to.
>  
> cheers
>  
> lew
>  
> On 8 Apr 2012, at 20:11, Jennifer Perdue wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> Mark BurningHawk Baxter  Apr 08 12:30PM -0700  
> 
> I'm sorry Brooks didn't work out for you As for the rest of your message, I 
> can't make much headway toward explaining it with the terms you use and the 
> negativity. I use Itunes and like it quite well, but maybe it's different in 
> Lion.
>  
>  
> • Mark BurningHawk Baxter
> • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969
> • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com
> • My home page:
> • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
>  
> 
> Jennifer Perdue  Apr 08 03:06PM -0500  
> 
> Hi Lu,
>  
> I'm using Lion and take your time. I just had to retire my guide dog sooner 
> than I thought and so I'm not in the best frame of mind today so you'll have 
> to be patient. 
>  
> for the rest of the list, I still haven't figured out how to reply off list 
> so sorry for the post.
>  
> Jenny and my retired guide Brooks
> On Apr 8, 2012, at 2:18 PM, Lewis Alexander wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> Lewis Alexander  Apr 08 09:09PM +0100  
> 
> email me off list at freemacsforthebl...@gmail.com.
>  
> don't worry. I know what it's like on the guide dog side of things.
>  
> take care, keep smiling and remember, no matter what, there's always someone 
> there by your side.
>  
> lew
>  
> On 8 Apr 2012, at 21:06, Jennifer Perdue wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> Ricardo Walker  Apr 08 04:28PM -0400  
> 
> Its not different. Its the same exact app that all Mac users are using 
> regardless of OS.
>  
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
>  
>  
> 
>  disregard previous question about folders
> jason lefevers  Apr 08 01:54PM -0400  
> 
> hello again after some more playing around I have figured it out thank you 
> all very much. jason
>  
> 
>  Adding contacts to my mail program
> Beefcakes  Apr 08 12:29PM -0400  
> 
> Hi Ricardo and everybody, happy Easter to everyone who celebrates., I 
> understand what you are saying, but I'm also talking about the ad contact 
> button I see in the mail program when you reply to someone. How does that 
> work I tried? I tried adding a contact by hitting the add add contact button, 
> but I don't know how that works it doesn't seem to work for me. Perhaps 
> someone can clearly up on this? Thanks so much have a great day, John
>  
> Cakes
>  
>  
> 
> jason lefevers  Apr 08 01:52PM -0400  
> 
> hello, when you tap on the add a contact button on your email it should bring 
> you to the list of contacts that you have on your phone. after that all you 
> have to do is select which person you want to send a message and select them 
> and it will bring you back to your email with there info in the to feild. 
> Note you 

re:question:

[Chenelle Hancock]

hello everyone,
i was  reading the mack's list  questions and answers the other day and someone 
 had a  plight about  when they closed their  computer down. that they  had to 
go into  systems preferences and  the go into the general application etc to 
shut  windows down. then when she  would go into  shutting it down for the 
night etc. it would ask her  if she wanted to log into  windows when  loging 
back onto the ones computer etc. 
well i called  apple yesterday and they went through a systems  preferences to  
see  if i was having the same plight or not. i went ahead and  ran a  scan of 
my computer to see if there were any  bugs or viruses on it and  i did not  
find anything wrong with my computer. to make a long story short. apple  
explained to me that  the reason for  the mack asking you if you want to login 
to your windows again  or not is due to the fact that when you go into a 
program  like pages or numbers or  safari the same  window will appear 
automatially thus if you  uncheck the box on the screen that  has this question 
 up and running etc. then  these windows will not appear  on your  particular 
application etc... i hope this makes some sense to you!.  but it is okay for 
you to run a  scan of your computer to see if you have a virus  or not if 
everything  checks out ok then your good. but you might want to call apple  if 
you have this plight again.
sincerely, chenelle

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 8, 2012, at 4:28 PM, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:

>   Today's Topic Summary
> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
> 
> Itines downloaded album and can't find it [7 Updates]
> disregard previous question about folders [1 Update]
> Adding contacts to my mail program [2 Updates]
> off topic! [3 Updates]
> Libre and Open office [6 Updates]
> Workflow not Flowing [1 Update]
> A little help with sorting documents [1 Update]
> Material for showing Apple accessibility solutions [1 Update]
> Merging google calendar with iCal [1 Update]
> e-mail's on mac refusing to delete. [1 Update]
> Is XCode accessible? [1 Update]
>  Itines downloaded album and can't find it
> Jennifer Perdue  Apr 08 02:11PM -0500  
> 
> I hate Itunes, I can't figure it out at all! I'm trying to also delete things 
> that I have played from the internet and is stuck in the Itunes thing and so 
> I don't have any way of putting them in the search thing because they don't 
> all have the same names. 
>  
> When I use VO to navigate I can't fine the Itunes library and so I can't view 
> what's in it. 
>  
> Itunes is stupid and I'm sick of it.
>  
> Jenny and my retired guide Brooks
> On Apr 7, 2012, at 9:42 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> Jennifer Perdue  Apr 08 02:15PM -0500  
> 
> thanks, 
>  
> Can you tell me how to delete things that I have played from the internet 
> that have put themselves, unwanted, in my iTunes and not have to do it one by 
> one?
>  
> I hate Itunes!
>  
> Jenny and my retired guide Brooks
> On Apr 7, 2012, at 9:55 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> Lewis Alexander  Apr 08 08:18PM +0100  
> 
> hang on in there. don't give up on itunes just yet, you need to spend some 
> time getting used to the interface and the way it behaves. what OS are you 
> using? lion or snow leopard?
>  
> let me see if I can spend some time with you off list on this, bear with me 
> though, most of the week I'm snowed under getting ready for the trade show 
> and taking on a project I really want to get stuck in to.
>  
> cheers
>  
> lew
>  
> On 8 Apr 2012, at 20:11, Jennifer Perdue wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> Mark BurningHawk Baxter  Apr 08 12:30PM -0700  
> 
> I'm sorry Brooks didn't work out for you As for the rest of your message, I 
> can't make much headway toward explaining it with the terms you use and the 
> negativity. I use Itunes and like it quite well, but maybe it's different in 
> Lion.
>  
>  
> • Mark BurningHawk Baxter
> • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969
> • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com
> • My home page:
> • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
>  
> 
> Jennifer Perdue  Apr 08 03:06PM -0500  
> 
> Hi Lu,
>  
> I'm using Lion and take your time. I just had to retire my guide dog sooner 
> than I thought and so I'm not in the best frame of mind today so you'll have 
> to be patient. 
>  
> for the rest of the list, I still haven't figured out how to reply off list 
> so sorry for the post.
>  
> Jenny and my retired guide Brooks
> On Apr 8, 2012, at 2:18 PM, Lewis Alexander wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> Lewis Alexander  Apr 08 09:09PM +0100  
> 
> email me off list at freemacsforthebl...@gmail.com.
>  
> don't worry. I know what it's like on the guide dog side of things.
>  
> take care, keep smiling and remember, no matter what, there's always someone 
> there by your side.
>  
> lew
>  
> On 8 Apr 2012, at 21:06, Jennifer Perdue wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> Ricardo Walker  Apr 08 04:28PM -0400  
> 
> Its not different. Its the same exact app that all Mac users are using 
>

re:jenny's itunes question:

[Chenelle Hancock]

hi jenny,
i am so sorry that you having  problems with i-tunes right now. however, if you 
want to find your library have first have to  v.o. right arrow or left arrow 
until  you hear my library. next you inner act with  it and then you  down 
arrow  and then press  v.o. space together to select the one you want.  
afterwards, you can v.o. left or right arrow  until you get to  music and then 
you v.o. shift  down arrow  into your music library and then you  v.o.  down 
arrow to  search through the  songs that you want to  uncheck yse v.o.  space 
bar to uncheck the songs that you do not want anymore and you could also delete 
them with eh delete key as well. 
i hope this helps you out.
good luck with  everything and i am so sorry to hear about your guide dog. i 
hope that you can get another one real soon.
sincerely, chenelle
ps. happy easter jenny.

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 8, 2012, at 4:28 PM, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:

>   Today's Topic Summary
> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
> 
> Itines downloaded album and can't find it [7 Updates]
> disregard previous question about folders [1 Update]
> Adding contacts to my mail program [2 Updates]
> off topic! [3 Updates]
> Libre and Open office [6 Updates]
> Workflow not Flowing [1 Update]
> A little help with sorting documents [1 Update]
> Material for showing Apple accessibility solutions [1 Update]
> Merging google calendar with iCal [1 Update]
> e-mail's on mac refusing to delete. [1 Update]
> Is XCode accessible? [1 Update]
>  Itines downloaded album and can't find it
> Jennifer Perdue  Apr 08 02:11PM -0500  
> 
> I hate Itunes, I can't figure it out at all! I'm trying to also delete things 
> that I have played from the internet and is stuck in the Itunes thing and so 
> I don't have any way of putting them in the search thing because they don't 
> all have the same names. 
>  
> When I use VO to navigate I can't fine the Itunes library and so I can't view 
> what's in it. 
>  
> Itunes is stupid and I'm sick of it.
>  
> Jenny and my retired guide Brooks
> On Apr 7, 2012, at 9:42 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> Jennifer Perdue  Apr 08 02:15PM -0500  
> 
> thanks, 
>  
> Can you tell me how to delete things that I have played from the internet 
> that have put themselves, unwanted, in my iTunes and not have to do it one by 
> one?
>  
> I hate Itunes!
>  
> Jenny and my retired guide Brooks
> On Apr 7, 2012, at 9:55 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> Lewis Alexander  Apr 08 08:18PM +0100  
> 
> hang on in there. don't give up on itunes just yet, you need to spend some 
> time getting used to the interface and the way it behaves. what OS are you 
> using? lion or snow leopard?
>  
> let me see if I can spend some time with you off list on this, bear with me 
> though, most of the week I'm snowed under getting ready for the trade show 
> and taking on a project I really want to get stuck in to.
>  
> cheers
>  
> lew
>  
> On 8 Apr 2012, at 20:11, Jennifer Perdue wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> Mark BurningHawk Baxter  Apr 08 12:30PM -0700  
> 
> I'm sorry Brooks didn't work out for you As for the rest of your message, I 
> can't make much headway toward explaining it with the terms you use and the 
> negativity. I use Itunes and like it quite well, but maybe it's different in 
> Lion.
>  
>  
> • Mark BurningHawk Baxter
> • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969
> • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com
> • My home page:
> • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
>  
> 
> Jennifer Perdue  Apr 08 03:06PM -0500  
> 
> Hi Lu,
>  
> I'm using Lion and take your time. I just had to retire my guide dog sooner 
> than I thought and so I'm not in the best frame of mind today so you'll have 
> to be patient. 
>  
> for the rest of the list, I still haven't figured out how to reply off list 
> so sorry for the post.
>  
> Jenny and my retired guide Brooks
> On Apr 8, 2012, at 2:18 PM, Lewis Alexander wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> Lewis Alexander  Apr 08 09:09PM +0100  
> 
> email me off list at freemacsforthebl...@gmail.com.
>  
> don't worry. I know what it's like on the guide dog side of things.
>  
> take care, keep smiling and remember, no matter what, there's always someone 
> there by your side.
>  
> lew
>  
> On 8 Apr 2012, at 21:06, Jennifer Perdue wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> Ricardo Walker  Apr 08 04:28PM -0400  
> 
> Its not different. Its the same exact app that all Mac users are using 
> regardless of OS.
>  
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
>  
>  
> 
>  disregard previous question about folders
> jason lefevers  Apr 08 01:54PM -0400  
> 
> hello again after some more playing around I have figured it out thank you 
> all very much. jason
>  
> 
>  Adding contacts to my mail program
> Beefcakes  Apr 08 12:29PM -0400  
> 
> Hi Ricardo and everybody, happy Easter to everyone who celebrates., I 
> understand what you are saying, but I'm also talking about the ad contact 
>

i-phone 4.s. problems:

[Chenelle Hancock]

hi everyone,
 for the past couple of days now whenever i am in an application trying to 
either download something or i am  reading something with voice over. voice 
over seems to stop working altogether and then i have to close out of the 
application and turn off the phone completely in order for it to work 
correctly. is there something  that i can do to  fix this problem of voice over 
stop working. it just freezes up altogether. can someone help me with this 
problem. i most greatly appreciate it.
sincerely, chenelle.

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Re: Digest for macvisionaries@googlegroups.com - 25 Messages in 9 Topics

[Chenelle Hancock]

hi all,
i wanted to let everyone know that today i went  to an apple hiring event here 
in cleveland ohio. they were hiring  for three of their stores. after attending 
their hiring event earlier this afternoon. i had received a call back for a 
second interview which  will  be held  at the legacy village location tomorrow 
afternoon at 3:30 pm.  i hope that i am able to  get  an  opertunity to  work 
at apple inc... I  am over the moon right now! i do not know what to do with 
myself either. i feel like i am on top of the moon right now. i was the  only 
person that was visually impaired  that was in the room and the legacy vbillage 
were completely inpressed with me while i was at this event earlier today.
 sincerely, chenelle

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On May 14, 2012, at 6:10 PM, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:

>   Today's Topic Summary
> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
> 
> Shortwave? [5 Updates]
> Carbonite [1 Update]
> I'm loving this Airport Extreme Already [3 Updates]
> Accessible Fruitmachine is published [7 Updates]
> language [3 Updates]
> Mackeeper [1 Update]
> Using VLC to play streaming audio? [3 Updates]
> Playlists in VLC? [1 Update]
> "please consider cleaning your mac from junk." [1 Update]
>  Shortwave?
> Christopher-Mark Gilland  May 14 04:03PM -0400  
> 
> hello guys.
>  
> this may seem like a really stupid question, but is there an app either for 
> the Mac, or for the iPhone, preferably for the iPhone, that would allow me to 
> listen to shortwave radio. I do have Wunder radio, and bunches of other apps, 
> however, I have yet to find a particular app that will actually allow me to 
> listen to shortwave radio. most of the apps that I use will allow me to 
> listen both to FM as well as a.m. radio. That is however it. if anyone knows 
> of anything, I would be very interested.
>  
> thank you much.
>  
> chris.
>  
> 
> Chris Blouch  May 14 05:29PM -0400  
> 
> You mean actually picking up and tuning in shortwave radio on your 
> phone? I suspect that isn't possible because the antennas in your phone 
> are designed for the wifi and GSM frequency ranges, not shortwave. Also, 
> other than some really high-end digital tuners, most shortwave gear is 
> set up to 'tune' a particular subset of the shortwave radio frequency 
> range with a physical variable capacitor while the wifi and mobile 
> voice/data radio stuff is set to fixed frequencies. If they can't bake 
> in an FM tuner, I doubt they could do the more niche shortwave. Maybe 
> there is a re-broadcaster that streams something but other than the 
> current time and a few other common frequencies part of the fun of 
> shortwave was to see what you could pick up on a bounce from around the 
> world. The internet kind of took away the novelty of that phenomenon.
>  
> CB
>  
> On 5/14/12 4:03 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>  
> 
> Mark BurningHawk Baxter  May 14 02:39PM -0700  
> 
> What we need is an app that lets us log onto a HAM radio, or a server that 
> controls one, tune it according to our license privileges, work the key or 
> mic directly, etc. 
>  
> • Mark BurningHawk Baxter
> • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969
> • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com
> • My home page:
> • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
>  
> 
> "Christopher-Mark Gilland"  May 14 06:06PM -0400  
> 
> You're totally confused!
>  
> I'm not wanting to literally pick up the frequency.
>  
> I'm wanting an app that would let me stream short wave frequency broadcasts.
>  
> Chris.
>  
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Chris Blouch" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 5:29 PM
> Subject: Re: Shortwave?
>  
>  
> You mean actually picking up and tuning in shortwave radio on your
> phone? I suspect that isn't possible because the antennas in your phone
> are designed for the wifi and GSM frequency ranges, not shortwave. Also,
> other than some really high-end digital tuners, most shortwave gear is
> set up to 'tune' a particular subset of the shortwave radio frequency
> range with a physical variable capacitor while the wifi and mobile
> voice/data radio stuff is set to fixed frequencies. If they can't bake
> in an FM tuner, I doubt they could do the more niche shortwave. Maybe
> there is a re-broadcaster that streams something but other than the
> current time and a few other common frequencies part of the fun of
> shortwave was to see what you could pick up on a bounce from around the
> world. The internet kind of took away the novelty of that phenomenon.
>  
> CB
>  
> On 5/14/12 4:03 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
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using pages on the i-phone 4.s.Hi all,

[Chenelle Hancock]

 i just purchased pages for my i-phone 4.s. and   it seems to lock up  when i 
am using it with voice over. Is there  something that i should do  before using 
pages with voice over? i have to  power off my phone in order for voice to  
work again. 
if someone could help em with this plight i would most greatly appreciate it.
sincerely, chenelle.

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connecting the braille sense you too to the mack book pro?Hi all,

[Chenelle Hancock]

ilboxes
> Christina  Jul 16 10:34AM -0600  
> 
> Hi all,
>  
> I absolutely cannot figure this out. I am on Snow leopard. I do not know how 
> to get my on my mac folders to sync with google imap. What can I do to make 
> them sync? Do I need to move them or something. I do not see a move mailbox 
> command anywhere.
>  
> Thanks for any help. I have googled and googled this and it seems as though 
> when one starts an IMAP the folders are automatically synced with gmail.  I 
> am not experiencing this.
>  
> Thanks,
> Christina C.
>  
> 
>  Source for Macs
> "Dan Rathburn"  Jul 15 09:09PM -0400  
> 
> Hello,
>  
> Besides the Apple store, is there a reliable source for used or refurbished 
> Macs?
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> Dan
>  
> 
> Rachel Feinberg  Jul 15 06:17PM -0700  
> 
> Hi Dan,
>  
> I believe the Apple website has a section where you can purchase refurbished 
> macs.
> Rachel
> On Jul 15, 2012, at 6:09 PM, Dan Rathburn wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> Kaare Dehard  Jul 15 09:34PM -0400  
> 
> Hi Dan, you may wish to try the macmall, try googling it, or 
> http://www.appleinsider.com they have discounted pricing on some mac models.
> On 2012-07-15, at 9:09 PM, Dan Rathburn wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> Cameron Strife  Jul 15 10:17PM -0400  
> 
> Hi. Mac mall is a good source as was previously mentioned. In case you
> might be interested, I'm selling a mint Mac book pro 15 inch I7 quad
> core and an eight core upgraded mac pro desktop with flat panel
> display etc. Please write me off list for complete specs etc.
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> Cameron.
>  
>  
>  
>  
> 
> Sarai Bucciarelli  Jul 16 06:51AM -0500  
> 
> Hi:
> Try Ebay and Amazon.
> On Jul 15, 2012, at 8:09 PM, Dan Rathburn wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> Chris Blouch  Jul 16 10:39AM -0400  
> 
> You might want to poke around the Megamacs.com site. While I haven't 
> bought a used Mac from them I have bought other stuff.
>  
> I had tried eBay in the past but there were crazy people on there who 
> were bidding up used stuff to near the price of new. So last time I was 
> trying to buy a laptop I eventually gave up on eBay and just bought one 
> through the Apple store at roughly the same price as eBay. The good news 
> is that used Apple hardware seems to keep its value. That's bad news 
> though if you're trying to buy.
>  
> CB
>  
> On 7/16/12 7:51 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:
>  
> 
>  Lion, open with, unexpected behavior
> "Jürgen Fleger"  Jul 16 08:26AM +0200  
> 
> Hi John and Anne,
>  
> John: did you switch off cursor tracking? Press VO + Shift + F3 to switch it 
> on again.
>  
> All the best
> Jürgen
> Am 15.07.2012 um 22:52 schrieb Anne Robertson:
>  
>  
> 
> John Sanfilippo  Jul 16 08:23AM -0400  
> 
> Yeah, it turns out that switching to list view solved my problem. Sigh, what 
> a maze!
>  
> Thanks for the help.
>  
> js
>  
>  
>  
> On Jul 16, 2012, at 2:26 AM, Jürgen Fleger wrote:
>  
> Hi John and Anne,
>  
> John: did you switch off cursor tracking? Press VO + Shift + F3 to switch it 
> on again.
>  
> All the best
> Jürgen
> Am 15.07.2012 um 22:52 schrieb Anne Robertson:
>  
>  
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> 
>  ogg to mp3 converter
> Maxwell Ivey  Jul 16 01:08AM -0500  
> 
> Hello; well, i haven't needed to use my copy of max since buying my new 
> macbook pro, so i was surprised when it informed me that it cannot rip ogg 
> files. so, what is my next easiest option for converting ogg to mp3? I'm 
> running lion of course, and it would be nice if it could do batch processing. 
> thanks for any help, max
>  
> 
>  Digest for macvisionaries@googlegroups.com - 25 Messages in 11 Topics
> Chenelle Hancock  Jul 15 06:08PM -0400  
> 
> hi anne,
> thank you so much for all of the help with using pages on my i-phone. i most 
> greatly appreciate it.
> sincerely, chenelle.
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
>  
> 
> Shawn Krasniuk  Jul 15 10:36PM -0500  
> 
> Hey Sarah. Have you tried the Acapela voices? I'm using Tracy at this moment 
> and she sounds pretty clear, and actually, more calmer than any female voice 
> out there. Give her a try.
>  
> Shawn
> On 2012-07-15, at 4:30 

notification question:

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hi all,

I will be purchasing mountain lion next wednesday. I wanted to know!  when you 
get to the  field w where  you have to inter  your short cut key stroke, do you 
 just spell out  every word or do you have to put the plus or  minus  sign 
insde of the field? This will be the first time that i actually  create a short 
cut key  stroke   for any of my  applications etc.
any help that i  could get in walking me through this process i would most 
greatly appreciate it.
sincerely, chenelle
 thanis again everyone for your help.

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voice over voices inside mountain lion:

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hi all,
I wanted to know if  mountain lion would have any know voice over voices? or  
are we just stuck with the  usual voices that are on the mack?.  also  is there 
a way that one could  change the voice from american english to brittish 
english or austraillian english?
thanks a log i really appreciate it. 
sincerely, chenelle

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Re: Digest for macvisionaries@googlegroups.com - 25 Messages in 10 Topics

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hi all

Where do I. Go to change my voice to brittish or austraillian?.
Thanks
Sincerely chenelle

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On 26 Jul 2012, at 20:46, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:

>   Today's Topic Summary
> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
> 
> Need to change email of my subscription to this list [1 Update]
> Imessagin in Mountain Lion [1 Update]
> voice over voices inside mountain lion: [4 Updates]
> notification question: [2 Updates]
> Can't quite figure out how to send a message and message [3 Updates]
> installing ml on omputers with different apple id question [1 Update]
> Drop Box issues [2 Updates]
> Help calling apple please [1 Update]
> 1 Message Conversation? [1 Update]
> where are my contacts? [9 Updates]
>  Need to change email of my subscription to this list
> Kimberly thurman  Jul 26 08:38PM -0400  
> 
> Hi folks:
>  
> I'm switching to AT&T Uverse tomorrow and I need to switch my subscription to 
> this and the VIphone list to a new email address. Does anyone have Raul's 
> email address so I can email him directly to get this done? 
>  
> Thanks much!
>  
> 
>  Imessagin in Mountain Lion
> Kamal Haffar  Jul 26 08:32PM -0400  
> 
> Hi all:
>  
>  
> After composing a message in the Messaging app in Mountain Lion, how do 
> you send it? Is there a sent button somewhere?
>  
> Cheers,
> Kamal
>  
> 
>  voice over voices inside mountain lion:
> Chenelle Hancock  Jul 26 07:13PM -0400  
> 
> Hi all,
> I wanted to know if mountain lion would have any know voice over voices? or 
> are we just stuck with the usual voices that are on the mack?. also is there 
> a way that one could change the voice from american english to brittish 
> english or austraillian english?
> thanks a log i really appreciate it. 
> sincerely, chenelle
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
> 
> Mark BurningHawk Baxter  Jul 26 04:28PM -0700  
> 
> Yes, there are different voices with Mountain Lion that you can download. 
> Yes, you can switch to British, Australian or even SOuth African or Indian 
> English.  
>  
> • Mark BurningHawk Baxter
> • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969
> • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com
> • My home page:
> • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
>  
> 
> Alex Hall  Jul 26 07:53PM -0400  
> 
> Are these new to Mountain Lion, or are they the Nuance voices Lion introduced?
>  
>  
> -- 
> Have a great day,
> Alex (msg sent from GMail website)
> mehg...@gmail.com
>  
> 
> Mark BurningHawk Baxter  Jul 26 05:25PM -0700  
> 
> I skipped over lion (it was sleeping and I didn't wanna wake it up?). The 
> voices are new to me.
>  
>  
> • Mark BurningHawk Baxter
> • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969
> • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com
> • My home page:
> • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
>  
> 
>  notification question:
> Chenelle Hancock  Jul 26 07:06PM -0400  
> 
> Hi all,
>  
> I will be purchasing mountain lion next wednesday. I wanted to know! when you 
> get to the field w where you have to inter your short cut key stroke, do you 
> just spell out every word or do you have to put the plus or minus sign insde 
> of the field? This will be the first time that i actually create a short cut 
> key stroke for any of my applications etc.
> any help that i could get in walking me through this process i would most 
> greatly appreciate it.
> sincerely, chenelle
> thanis again everyone for your help.
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
> 
> Lisette Wesseling  Jul 27 11:55AM +1200  
> 
> Hi Chenelle 
> Just press the actual keys you want to use for the short cut. I held down 
> command option and then added the n. You may even be able to press them all 
> at once but I held down the first two and then added the third, then let them 
> all go.
> It really is easy. You won't hear any feedback, but if you vo left and then 
> right again you will hear the keystroke you just entered spoken.
>  
> Good luck.
>  
> Lisette
>  
>  
> 
>  Can't quite figure out how to send a message and message
> Ray Foret Jr  Jul 26 06:39PM -0500  
> 
> Hello there. When I going to messages, I can select the recipient to whom I 
> wish to send a message. However, when I'm finished typing the message, I 
> can't quite figure out how to send it. Is it option plus escape? Thanks.
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>  
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>  
> Skype name:
> barefootedray
>  
> 
> "Jeff Bishop"  Jul 26 04:46PM -0700  
> 
> I just pressed enter, but I typed in the phone number to send to in my case.
>  
> 

mountain lion issues:

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hi all,
 
I  just installed mountain lion  earlier this morning  at around 4:30  am. I t 
took me about 2/2  hours  from downloading  until   m.l.  had  downloaded and 
installed onto my mackbook pro.
however,  my question  is, after downloading m.l.  onto the mack?  Where  do 
you go to  set up your twitter account? or do you  just have to download it to 
your  mack in order to  set up the  short cut keystroke commands? i have not 
tried going into the  the system preferences application  and then into  the  
dictation  application to set up my  dictation v.o. ket stroke commands. I  
also purchased the flexy application for my i phone  earlier this morning as 
well  and that works  terrifically.
thanks  so much for your help i most greatly appreciate it.
sincerely chenelle

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re: what scanning software is compadable with the mack?

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hi  anne,

thanks so much for the  advice i really do appreciate it.  however, do abby 
find reader or doc you scan cost anything and how much  would they both be to 
purchase  if i had to get either one or the other?.
 thanks so much again for your help.
sincerely, chenelle

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how do you burn a movie from your itunes library?hi everyone,

[Chenelle Hancock]

i wanted to know how do you  burn  a movie from your itunes library? i 
purchased it on  itunes and i want to burn it into a  cd. 
thanks so much for your help i  greatly appreciate it.
sincerely, chenelle

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>   Today's Topic Summary
> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
> 
> multiple messages from macvisionaries group [3 Updates]
> Having Mail not automatically mark a message as read when I move to it [1 
> Update]
> converting iphone video to...anything? [1 Update]
> Question About Built-In MBP Keyboard [1 Update]
> Dropbox under Lion [2 Updates]
> Using Boot Camp [3 Updates]
> iWork Help [8 Updates]
> sort of figured out GarageBand [4 Updates]
> question about recording with mac [2 Updates]
>  multiple messages from macvisionaries group
> Andrew Lamanche  Aug 13 10:03PM +0100  
> 
> Hello Everyone,
>  
> I've already asked before about the problem of receiving multiple copies of 
> messages from macvisionaries group. Harry has offered me suggestions to do 
> with labels in gmail (which is the mail provider for me) but they haven't 
> sold the problem. I vaguely seem to remember that I had the same issue under 
> Lion but I can't remember how I had solved it then. I seem to receive two 
> copies of each message in my inbox. Please help if you have any ideas.
>  
> With best wishes and thanks
>  
> Andrew
>  
> 
> Ioana Gandrabur  Aug 13 05:05PM -0400  
> 
> Hi,
>  
> It would be interesting to check what settings do using Gmail. I also use 
> labels in Gmail and never received any duplicates of the messages in my 
> inbox. Good luck
> Ioana
> Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online 
> stores.
>  
>  
> 
> Andrew Lamanche  Aug 13 10:31PM +0100  
> 
> Hello Iona,
>  
> I am so puzzled about this because since upgrading to Mountain Lion, I get 
> these duplicate messages in macvisionaries group as well as the iPhone group. 
> This did not happen before the upgrade. I did not think labels would be a 
> problem but I have removed them anyway in case, especially that Harry 
> suggested it and it had a positive effect for him. I have been looking for a 
> clue in my gmail setting but I haven't found anything so far. 
>  
> Best wishes
>  
> Andrew
>  
> 
>  Having Mail not automatically mark a message as read when I move to it
> Ioana Gandrabur  Aug 13 05:03PM -0400  
> 
> Hi
>  
> Just a quick note to say that you can hide the preview pane also by using 
> keyboard shortcuts. There have been posts to that effect on the list also. If 
> anybody wants me to write steps just let me know.
>  
> Take care,
>  
> Ioana
>  
> Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online 
> stores.
>  
>  
> 
>  converting iphone video to...anything?
> Karen Lewellen  Aug 13 04:56PM -0400  
> 
> Hi folks,
> forgive me if I do not ask this with the correct lingo.
> Today would have been my late father's 85th birthday. he passed last year 
> and we ere very close.
> My niece just sent me some video she shot with her iphone of my 
> dad...obviously I would appreciate a chance to enjoy. I have no iphone 
> though, and my mac is still doing os 9.22...not that I want to watch it so 
> much.
> My desire is to convert the file into something else, mp4 mp3 aif, 
> anything.
> how can this be done?
> Thanks in advance,
> Karen
>  
> 
>  Question About Built-In MBP Keyboard
> Chris Blouch  Aug 13 04:44PM -0400  
> 
> That feature was dropped from MacBooks some time ago but I'm guessing 
> you could reproduce that with a keyboard remapper. Other sites recommended
>  
> http://pqrs.org/macosx/keyremap4macbook/index.html
>  
> but I've never used it.
>  
> CB
>  
> On 8/9/12 5:10 PM, Gavin Grundlingh wrote:
>  
> 
>  Dropbox under Lion
> Chris  Aug 13 08:28PM +0100  
> 
> Hello all.
> Under Lion, is the Dropbox client accessible? I have heard it is in 
> Mountain Lion, but what about just Lion? I must stress Lion as this 
> question is for Mr Price who will be shortly receiving a 13 inch Macbook 
> 2008 model running Lion and therefore cannot be upgraded to Mountain Lion.
> Please reply as soon as possible. Thanks!
>  
> 
> Rodney Haynie  Aug 13 03:39PM -0400  
> 
> Chris,
>  
> No, the client is not accessible as far as I know, under Lion. The way
> I used it was through Finder. Open the ffolder directly, copy and
> paste files and such, and VO Shift M on a file will give you good
> options as well once the file is in the Dropbox folder.
>  
> HTH.
> -Rodney
>  
>  
>  
> 
>  Using Boot Camp
> "Paul Hunt"  Aug 13 02:10PM -0500  
> 
> Hello Alex. So if I have my Bootcamp partition booted I can navigate to say
> my hd partition and read the file or copy it. I just can't write to it from
> the Bootcamp partition or do anything with folders except copy them to the
> Bootcamp? Are my assumptions correct?
>  
> Thanks so much.
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@

louie for the mack?

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hi everyone,

 i  just downloaded louie for the mack earlier this evening  onto  my mack book 
pro. i wanted to know how accessable was it? and  would it be  conpadible with 
my romeo embosser? also does it happen to  do double sided  braille?  also does 
it do  grade 2  contractual braille?. i am taking  a personal trainers 
certification course over the internet and i wanted to know how accessable it 
would be translating my printed  text to braille?. thanks so much for your help 
i most greatly appreciate it.
sincerely, chenelle

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>   Today's Topic Summary
> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
> 
> Badges in YoruFukurou [3 Updates]
> Mouse right click [8 Updates]
> quick ftp option in ml? [2 Updates]
> Deleting Bookmarks [2 Updates]
> Speakable Items staying on [2 Updates]
> viewing scanned text in Abyy Fine-Reader [1 Update]
> A better way to drag and drop [3 Updates]
> moveAddict app [was Re: can't ever cut items in Finder?] [4 Updates]
>  Badges in YoruFukurou
> Rachel Feinberg  Aug 21 03:45PM -0700  
> 
> Turn off real-time streaming in preferences, under the general button. It's a 
> checkbox that says enable real-time streaming. 
>  
>  
> 
> Brian Fischler  Aug 21 06:56PM -0700  
> 
> Thanks so much Rachel, just got it turned off. Will have to see if
> that gets rid of the busy messages. Only other question, if real time
> streaming is turned off how does your timeline refresh and do you need
> to hit a command like command R to refesh your timeline? Thanks again
>  
>  
> 
> Rachel Feinberg  Aug 21 08:54PM -0700  
> 
> Hi Brian,
>  
> i'm very glad this worked for you! And you can set your timeline to refresh 
> in intervals of whatever you want. Usually a minute seems to work well 
> enough. If you want it to refresh more, then you can manually refresh all 
> tabs by pressing command+shift+R.
> Or just command+R to refresh the current tab.
>  
>  
> 
>  Mouse right click
> Mary Scott  Aug 21 06:16PM -0400  
> 
> Hi all, My sighted helpers are often asking me, "How do I right click with 
> VO?" Will somebody tell me the correct answer? Mel
>  
> 
> Alex Hall  Aug 21 06:22PM -0400  
> 
> Most of the time, vo-shift-m does the trick. If you need to simulate
> an actual right click, or ctrl-click, you can do it. Unfortunately, I
> don't remember the exact keystroke for this, but key describer should
> help when you consider that vo-shift-space is a left click.
>  
>  
> -- 
> Have a great day,
> Alex (msg sent from GMail website)
> mehg...@gmail.com
>  
> 
> agent086b  Aug 22 08:31AM +1000  
> 
> Hi, probably I am wrong as I don't have my Mac yet.
> I think I read
>  
> vo-shift- and space twice quickly
> Max.
>  
>  Original Message 
> Subject: Re: Mouse right click
> From: Alex Hall 
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 18:22:37 -0400
>  
> 
> Rodney Haynie  Aug 21 08:11PM -0400  
> 
> VO does not have a keystroke assigned to Right Mouse Click.
> However, you can issue the command by VO H H, then type the word "right". 
> Pressing enter on the command in the help commands list will invoke the 
> command.
>  
> Otherwise, if you really need it, you can assign the command to one of your 
> commanders.
>  
> Wow, I don't think I ever wrote the word command so many times. :)
>  
> HTH. 
> Rodney
>  
> 
> Tim Kilburn  Aug 21 07:15PM -0600  
> 
> Hi,
>  
> VO-shift-m brings up the Contextual menu for a given item. These wil be the 
> same options as a sighted user will see when they right-click. There are some 
> situations where the VO-shift-m will not bring up the Contextual menu but in 
> those limited cases, you can route the mouse to the VO cursor, VO-cmd-f5, 
> hold down the control key and press your Trackpad button.
>  
> Later...
>  
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>  
>  
> 
> Mike Arrigo  Aug 21 08:17PM -0500  
> 
> There is no voice over command for right clicking the mouse, however, 
> pressing vo shift M on an item should open the context menu for it, that's 
> also what right clicking the mouse does.
> On Aug 21, 2012, at 5:16 PM, Mary Scott wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> Ioana Gandrabur  Aug 21 11:07PM -0400  
> 
> Hi,. 
>  
> What button are you talking about? I have a magic trackpad and do not have 
> any button to my knowledge.. 
>  
> Thanks,. 
>  
> Ioana 
>  
> Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com, on iTunes or most online 
> stores.
> Sent from my phone
>  
>  
> 
> Tim Kilburn  Aug 21 09:31PM -0600  
> 
> The Magic Trackpad is just like a MacBook or MacBook Pro Trackpad. It just 
> gives you the same functionality with a Desktop unit. If you press down on a 
> MacBook Trackpad,you'll feel a sort of click which when fully depressed, is 
> the "mouse-down" action. Holding it down performs the dragging action. The 
> Magic Trackpad has exactly the same functionality. Pressing firmly down 
> anywhere on the Trackpad will cause

the braille pen 12 question:Hi all,

[Chenelle Hancock]

i am considering getting a braille pen 12 portable display. i wanted to know 
has anyone ever  used it and if so did they use it with their mack?
tahnks a lot for your help i greatly appreciate it.
sincerely, chenelle

Sent from my iPhone

On 22/08/2012, at 0:02, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:

>   Today's Topic Summary
> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
> 
> Badges in YoruFukurou [3 Updates]
> Mouse right click [8 Updates]
> quick ftp option in ml? [2 Updates]
> Deleting Bookmarks [2 Updates]
> Speakable Items staying on [2 Updates]
> viewing scanned text in Abyy Fine-Reader [1 Update]
> A better way to drag and drop [3 Updates]
> moveAddict app [was Re: can't ever cut items in Finder?] [4 Updates]
>  Badges in YoruFukurou
> Rachel Feinberg  Aug 21 03:45PM -0700  
> 
> Turn off real-time streaming in preferences, under the general button. It's a 
> checkbox that says enable real-time streaming. 
>  
>  
> 
> Brian Fischler  Aug 21 06:56PM -0700  
> 
> Thanks so much Rachel, just got it turned off. Will have to see if
> that gets rid of the busy messages. Only other question, if real time
> streaming is turned off how does your timeline refresh and do you need
> to hit a command like command R to refesh your timeline? Thanks again
>  
>  
> 
> Rachel Feinberg  Aug 21 08:54PM -0700  
> 
> Hi Brian,
>  
> i'm very glad this worked for you! And you can set your timeline to refresh 
> in intervals of whatever you want. Usually a minute seems to work well 
> enough. If you want it to refresh more, then you can manually refresh all 
> tabs by pressing command+shift+R.
> Or just command+R to refresh the current tab.
>  
>  
> 
>  Mouse right click
> Mary Scott  Aug 21 06:16PM -0400  
> 
> Hi all, My sighted helpers are often asking me, "How do I right click with 
> VO?" Will somebody tell me the correct answer? Mel
>  
> 
> Alex Hall  Aug 21 06:22PM -0400  
> 
> Most of the time, vo-shift-m does the trick. If you need to simulate
> an actual right click, or ctrl-click, you can do it. Unfortunately, I
> don't remember the exact keystroke for this, but key describer should
> help when you consider that vo-shift-space is a left click.
>  
>  
> -- 
> Have a great day,
> Alex (msg sent from GMail website)
> mehg...@gmail.com
>  
> 
> agent086b  Aug 22 08:31AM +1000  
> 
> Hi, probably I am wrong as I don't have my Mac yet.
> I think I read
>  
> vo-shift- and space twice quickly
> Max.
>  
>  Original Message 
> Subject: Re: Mouse right click
> From: Alex Hall 
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 18:22:37 -0400
>  
> 
> Rodney Haynie  Aug 21 08:11PM -0400  
> 
> VO does not have a keystroke assigned to Right Mouse Click.
> However, you can issue the command by VO H H, then type the word "right". 
> Pressing enter on the command in the help commands list will invoke the 
> command.
>  
> Otherwise, if you really need it, you can assign the command to one of your 
> commanders.
>  
> Wow, I don't think I ever wrote the word command so many times. :)
>  
> HTH. 
> Rodney
>  
> 
> Tim Kilburn  Aug 21 07:15PM -0600  
> 
> Hi,
>  
> VO-shift-m brings up the Contextual menu for a given item. These wil be the 
> same options as a sighted user will see when they right-click. There are some 
> situations where the VO-shift-m will not bring up the Contextual menu but in 
> those limited cases, you can route the mouse to the VO cursor, VO-cmd-f5, 
> hold down the control key and press your Trackpad button.
>  
> Later...
>  
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>  
>  
> 
> Mike Arrigo  Aug 21 08:17PM -0500  
> 
> There is no voice over command for right clicking the mouse, however, 
> pressing vo shift M on an item should open the context menu for it, that's 
> also what right clicking the mouse does.
> On Aug 21, 2012, at 5:16 PM, Mary Scott wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> Ioana Gandrabur  Aug 21 11:07PM -0400  
> 
> Hi,. 
>  
> What button are you talking about? I have a magic trackpad and do not have 
> any button to my knowledge.. 
>  
> Thanks,. 
>  
> Ioana 
>  
> Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com, on iTunes or most online 
> stores.
> Sent from my phone
>  
>  
> 
> Tim Kilburn  Aug 21 09:31PM -0600  
> 
> The Magic Trackpad is just like a MacBook or MacBook Pro Trackpad. It just 
> gives you the same functionality with a Desktop unit. If you press down on a 
> MacBook Trackpad,you'll feel a sort of click which when fully depressed, is 
> the "mouse-down" action. Holding it down performs the dragging action. The 
> Magic Trackpad has exactly the same functionality. Pressing firmly down 
> anywhere on the Trackpad will cause the Magic Trackpad to give a click sort 
> of feel where you can distinguish between the "mouse-down" and regular 
> gesture modes. So, in effect, the entire Trackpad in both cases is a button.
>  
> Hope this clears things up for you.
>  
> Later...
>  
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>  
>  
> 
>  quick ft

embosser question:

[Chenelle Hancock]

ave Garage Band right? This will do the trick and o just 
> record some vocals will be easy.
> If you need help just let me know.
> 
>  
> Mike 
>  
> 
>  Is Facebook Now Completely Broken
> Brian Fischler  Aug 22 09:45AM -0700  
> 
> I have had it with Facebook, and if I didn't need it for work would
> get rid of it. I went to update a status this morning, and went to the
> website, was so happy as everything in Mountain Lion had been working
> great, as I had set the sweet spot to go straight to update status
> field, and then today, I go there and there is now a combo box that is
> in the update status text field. I VO shift Down in to the Combo Box
> tried typing and nothing, tried moving around and nothing. I said ok
> let me go to Menu Tab and just update my status there, and guess what
> same thing, the update status text field now has a combo box there.
> Has anyone else had this happen today? If so, any work around? The
> people who run the mobile site on their desktop are you having the
> same problem? I am a non-violent person, but if I ever meet anyone who
> works for Facebook, I am going to punch them in the face. They could
> be the worst company out there along with ESPN who have made no effort
> to make their site better compatabile with screen readers.
>  
> 
>  Mountain Lion User Administration
> Steve Holmes  Aug 22 09:35AM -0700  
> 
> You might try some command line tools from the terminal with an admin
> equipped user. Example:
> type 'passwd USER' where USER is the ID you're trying to fix. You
> should be prompted for a new user. Try entering a new password and
> see if it takes OK. You won't get any messages if successful. Then
> from a non-admin user, try something like
> su - USER
> With this, you should receive a password prompt and if you enter
> correctly and if the password is good, you should be logged into a
> command shell for that user. All this effort will be helpful in
> debugging and determining if the account is good or not.
>  
> Forgive me, but I'm a linux geek and all this unix stuff comes in
> handy to trouble shoot system problems like this. You can also work
> with file permissions and bulk file manipulations too.
>  
>  
> 
>  Arranging Listbox
> Jeff Berwick  Aug 22 08:03AM -0400  
> 
> Hi all,
>  
> When I am in the "open file" dialogue box of Textedit the results showing in 
> the listbox are sorted in reverse alphabetic order. I am trying to change 
> this to be alphabetic order by hitting [vo][backslash]. This is not having 
> any affect. Can anybody offer any suggestions on making this happen?
>  
> Thx,
> Jeff
>  
> 
> Chris Blouch  Aug 22 09:46AM -0400  
> 
> Column sort on a table is VO-| or pipe. Is the shifted version of the \ 
> key right above the return key.
>  
> http://www.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/_1133.html
>  
> CB
>  
> On 8/22/12 8:03 AM, Jeff Berwick wrote:
>  
> 
> Jeff Berwick  Aug 22 12:13PM -0400  
> 
> Unfortunately, this did not work. I had my mother-in-law look at it and 
> apparently, the option to change the order is blanked out. I must have a 
> problem with my TextEdit application.
> Off to Google a solution.
> Jef
>  
> 
>  louie for the mack?
> Chenelle Hancock  Aug 22 12:48AM -0400  
> 
> Hi everyone,
>  
> i just downloaded louie for the mack earlier this evening onto my mack book 
> pro. i wanted to know how accessable was it? and would it be conpadible with 
> my romeo embosser? also does it happen to do double sided braille? also does 
> it do grade 2 contractual braille?. i am taking a personal trainers 
> certification course over the internet and i wanted to know how accessable it 
> would be translating my printed  text to braille?. thanks so much for your 
> help i most greatly appreciate it.
> sincerely, chenelle
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
>  
> 
> Chenelle Hancock  Aug 22 12:52AM -0400  
> 
> i am considering getting a braille pen 12 portable display. i wanted to know 
> has anyone ever used it and if so did they use it with their mack?
> tahnks a lot for your help i greatly appreciate it.
> sincerely, chenelle
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
>  
> 
> erik burggraaf  Aug 22 06:33AM -0400  
> 
> Hi, I mostly use braille pen with IOS devices. It's sheer smallness makes it 
> less than ideal as a primary display for a computer.
>  
> Best,
>  
> Erik Burggraaf
> Introducing Ebony Consulting business card transcription service, starting at 
> $0.45 per card or $35 per hundred cards.
> Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
> or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
>  
> On 2012-08-22, at 12:52 

Re: Digest for macvisionaries@googlegroups.com - 25 Messages in 10 Topics

[Chenelle Hancock]

me to believe that it is not. 
> However, I know nothing about it and am hoping someone out there does know 
> for sure.
>  
> Thanks
>  
>  
> Take Care
>  
> John D. Panarese
> Director
> Mac for the Blind
> Tel, (631) 724-4479
> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>  
> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION
>  
> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>  
> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>  
> 
>  Badges in YoruFukurou
> Brian Fischler  Aug 22 10:36AM -0700  
> 
> Hey Rachel Thanks again, that really helped make Night Owl much more
> usable when viewing the Timeline. One other problem I have always had
> is replying to someone or trying to retweet something, as the VO Focus
> and Cursor focus must be different. Basically what happens is the
> person I try and hit return on that VO is reading me, sends a response
> to someone I read like four or five tweets ago. I know that might not
> have been described the best way. What I am asking, is have you found
> a great way to retweet and respond to people using VO, or the quick
> nav, I find I have to turn quick nav off and sometimes this help
> focurs on the tweet I want to interact with, but not all the time.
> Thanks
>  
>  
> 
> Steve Holmes  Aug 22 11:44AM -0700  
> 
> First of all, I never have quick nav on while in anything that does
> not use HTML so when using Yorufukurou, make sure quick nav is turned
> off. Also, I had the same issues but when I uninteract with the list
> of tweets, I can arrow up and down *without* VO modifiers I can then
> act upon the right tweet every time.
>  
> HTH.
>  
>  
> 
>  Firefox and Webvisum Keyboard Shortcuts?
> Steve Holmes  Aug 22 11:37AM -0700  
> 
> What I recall from my use of this on Linux is the "Solve CAPTCHA"
> option can actually be found in the Tools menu. Is it not there in
> the Mac version? I haven't done anything with this on the Mac yet.
>  
>  
> 
> Ray Foret Jr  Aug 22 01:43PM -0500  
> 
> As a rule, Mac apps tend not to have a tools menu; but, this differs from app 
> to app. Perhaps it's in the tool bar maybe?
>  
>  
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>  
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>  
> Skype name:
> barefootedray
>  
>  
> 
>  Podcast App for Mac
> Steve Holmes  Aug 22 11:34AM -0700  
> 
> This sounds really cool! All he would need to do after that is set up
> iCloud access so we could sync up our shows between the iToys and the
> Mac. I would *LOVE* that.
>  
>  
> 
>  embosser question:
> Chenelle Hancock  Aug 22 01:49PM -0400  
> 
> hi all,
> i have an romeo embosser and it is only 2, years old. i want to use it with 
> louie for the mack, however, my romeo embosser drivers are for windows xp. so 
> where would i have to go or what  would i have to do in order for me to set 
> up my romeo embosser on my mack?
> thanks a lot for your help i greatly appreciate it.
> sincerely, chenelle
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
>  
> 
> erik burggraaf  Aug 22 02:05PM -0400  
> 
> Hi, You need a usb to serial adapter. Then you need to plug the serial cable 
> from the romeo in. The newer one probably has a usb port, but it should have 
> a serial as well. Louis hasn't been developed in 5 years. Most of us are 
> poised on the brink of braille blaster. It is highly betaish but they are 
> developing on it daily and soon it will be ready for the bold and brave, if 
> not for primetime.
>  
> Best,
>  
> Erik Burggraaf
> Introducing Ebony Consulting business card transcription service, starting at 
> $0.45 per card or $35 per hundred cards.
> Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
> or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
>  
> On 2012-08-22, at 1:49 PM, Chenelle Hancock wrote:
>  
>  
> 
>  Anyone has a link to a working version of Stanza?
> Krister Ekstrom  Aug 22 07:39PM +0200  
> 
> Hi,
> Subject says it all really. I'm wondering if anyone on the list uses Stanza 
> under Mountain Lion and if there's a working version out there to download? 
> There was a discussion on the list a while back, but i didn't follow it then 
> because i wasn't interested at the time but then a friend aksed me if i had a 
> link, because the links he had gotten didn't work. I saw some links given 
> here, but when i followed them to download Stanza, the app reported itself as 
> broken and it couldn't be used and the only option was to throw it in the 
> bin. So is there a working version of Stanza out there?
> /Krister
>  
> 
>  Applications Not Coming Up with Cmd+Tab
&

Re: Digest for macvisionaries@googlegroups.com - 25 Messages in 10 Topics

[Chenelle Hancock]

out it and am hoping someone out there does know 
> for sure.
>  
> Thanks
>  
>  
> Take Care
>  
> John D. Panarese
> Director
> Mac for the Blind
> Tel, (631) 724-4479
> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>  
> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION
>  
> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>  
> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>  
> 
>  Badges in YoruFukurou
> Brian Fischler  Aug 22 10:36AM -0700  
> 
> Hey Rachel Thanks again, that really helped make Night Owl much more
> usable when viewing the Timeline. One other problem I have always had
> is replying to someone or trying to retweet something, as the VO Focus
> and Cursor focus must be different. Basically what happens is the
> person I try and hit return on that VO is reading me, sends a response
> to someone I read like four or five tweets ago. I know that might not
> have been described the best way. What I am asking, is have you found
> a great way to retweet and respond to people using VO, or the quick
> nav, I find I have to turn quick nav off and sometimes this help
> focurs on the tweet I want to interact with, but not all the time.
> Thanks
>  
>  
> 
> Steve Holmes  Aug 22 11:44AM -0700  
> 
> First of all, I never have quick nav on while in anything that does
> not use HTML so when using Yorufukurou, make sure quick nav is turned
> off. Also, I had the same issues but when I uninteract with the list
> of tweets, I can arrow up and down *without* VO modifiers I can then
> act upon the right tweet every time.
>  
> HTH.
>  
>  
> 
>  Firefox and Webvisum Keyboard Shortcuts?
> Steve Holmes  Aug 22 11:37AM -0700  
> 
> What I recall from my use of this on Linux is the "Solve CAPTCHA"
> option can actually be found in the Tools menu. Is it not there in
> the Mac version? I haven't done anything with this on the Mac yet.
>  
>  
> 
> Ray Foret Jr  Aug 22 01:43PM -0500  
> 
> As a rule, Mac apps tend not to have a tools menu; but, this differs from app 
> to app. Perhaps it's in the tool bar maybe?
>  
>  
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>  
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>  
> Skype name:
> barefootedray
>  
>  
> 
>  Podcast App for Mac
> Steve Holmes  Aug 22 11:34AM -0700  
> 
> This sounds really cool! All he would need to do after that is set up
> iCloud access so we could sync up our shows between the iToys and the
> Mac. I would *LOVE* that.
>  
>  
> 
>  embosser question:
> Chenelle Hancock  Aug 22 01:49PM -0400  
> 
> hi all,
> i have an romeo embosser and it is only 2, years old. i want to use it with 
> louie for the mack, however, my romeo embosser drivers are for windows xp. so 
> where would i have to go or what  would i have to do in order for me to set 
> up my romeo embosser on my mack?
> thanks a lot for your help i greatly appreciate it.
> sincerely, chenelle
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
>  
> 
> erik burggraaf  Aug 22 02:05PM -0400  
> 
> Hi, You need a usb to serial adapter. Then you need to plug the serial cable 
> from the romeo in. The newer one probably has a usb port, but it should have 
> a serial as well. Louis hasn't been developed in 5 years. Most of us are 
> poised on the brink of braille blaster. It is highly betaish but they are 
> developing on it daily and soon it will be ready for the bold and brave, if 
> not for primetime.
>  
> Best,
>  
> Erik Burggraaf
> Introducing Ebony Consulting business card transcription service, starting at 
> $0.45 per card or $35 per hundred cards.
> Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
> or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
>  
> On 2012-08-22, at 1:49 PM, Chenelle Hancock wrote:
>  
>  
> 
>  Anyone has a link to a working version of Stanza?
> Krister Ekstrom  Aug 22 07:39PM +0200  
> 
> Hi,
> Subject says it all really. I'm wondering if anyone on the list uses Stanza 
> under Mountain Lion and if there's a working version out there to download? 
> There was a discussion on the list a while back, but i didn't follow it then 
> because i wasn't interested at the time but then a friend aksed me if i had a 
> link, because the links he had gotten didn't work. I saw some links given 
> here, but when i followed them to download Stanza, the app reported itself as 
> broken and it couldn't be used and the only option was to throw it in the 
> bin. So is there a working version of Stanza out there?
> /Krister
>  
> 
>  Applications Not Coming Up with Cmd+Tab
> Brian Fischler  Aug 21 03:28PM -0700  
> 
> Hey,
>

How to transfer iTunes library to external hard drive?.

[Chenelle Hancock]

hello all:
i have not been out on this  list in quite sometime. my question is how does 
one go about transfering their entire itunes library from their  mb pro to an 
exturnal hard drive using voice over commands? if someone can get back to me 
with this  answer i would most greatfully appreciate it.
sincerely, chenelle. have a nice day all.

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re: how to transfer itunes library to exturnal hard drive?.

[Chenelle Hancock]

hello 
 all:
 i wannt to thank everyone for their help with the answer to my question. 
however, i have a second part to ask  in regards to this question.  i want to 
know how toes one go about  freeing up space within my ram  of my mb pro by 
transfering  itunes library entirely  to exturnal hd?
sincerely, chenelle thanks again for all of your help i most greatly appreciate 
it...
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re: dvd player:

[Chenelle Hancock]

hi eric,
this is chenelle, i just allow for the entire episode to play then i  use the  
vo left arrow key stroke to go ba k to the main menu where the list of episodes 
are located at. then i vo  down arrow to the  next episode. but i will play 
with  my apple wireless keyboard  when  viewing  a episodic  tv series. now i 
also do have an apple tv at my disposal  so i just  use the  remote control 
when i am on net flix and nothing else due to the fact that  the apple tv now 
has voice over on it. i really do enjoy it a great deal too. that is another 
way that you could  view your favorite  tv series as well by  getting a net 
flix account and subscription which is only around 8 dollars per month. you 
could stream   as much as you want to. i really do find it to be most affective 
 for me. email me on my personal email to let me know if this helps or not.
sincerely, chenelle. take care eric, and happy new year too.

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how to erase applications from the i-phone 4 s.hello all,

[Chenelle Hancock]

it's chenelle. i wanted to know  with using voice over on your i-phone 4 s. how 
could you go about  removing  applications from your phone? if anyone could 
help me with this little plight that i am having i would most greatly 
appreciate it.
sincerely, chenelle thanks a lot and happy new year to you all.

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apple keyboard instructions:hi all,

[Chenelle Hancock]

i wanted to say thank you to who ever sent  the thread  of instructions on how 
to use the apple keyboard with ones i-phone etc... i most greatly appreciated. 
i am currently  placing this bit of information into my important file fold 
located on my i-phone 4 s. for the first time  in over 3, years. i can now know 
and learn how to use the  wireless keyboard with my i-phone properly. thanks 
again...
sincerely, chenelle.

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facebook application question in regards to using voice over?

[Chenelle Hancock]

hello everyone,
 a few days ago i  was using my i-phone 4.s.  and i went into my facebook 
application to look up some of my friends and  after adding a new friend onto  
my page etc...
i  got out of it and then a few hours later when i reutrned back to the 
application, all of my friends on my friend list were gone!.  is there a limit 
to how many friends are  on the application? or  does the application create 
another page that i am not awhere of?. i do not recollect  performing any kind 
of  v.o. action to remove all of my  friends from the fb application. if there 
is anyone out that that has expirienced andything like this before can you  
please help me! figurer out  what i should od. i infered that i might  email 
mark zuckerberg  to see if there were a flaw  within the application itself. 
but i had never had this plight before. so  if anyone has any answers to this 
particular question fill free to  email me on my personal email or the list. i 
most greatly appreciate it more then you could know.
sincerely, chenelle.
thanks for your time and help.

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Re: Digest for macvisionaries@googlegroups.com - 25 Messages in 8 Topics

[Chenelle Hancock]

 You can v.o right arrow to next and v.o space to select next. Hope this helps  
natt.Y

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On Feb 7, 2012, at 12:19 AM, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:

>   Today's Topic Summary
> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
> 
> Reading Conversations in Mail [5 Updates]
> coaching software on the mac? [1 Update]
> Facebook on Mac [10 Updates]
> OCR on the mac [1 Update]
> The official Twitter app for iPhone and links... [4 Updates]
> mozy backup service [1 Update]
> Selecting text in Safari [1 Update]
> Audacity or amadeus pro? [2 Updates]
>  Reading Conversations in Mail
> Marc Sutton  Jan 25 07:50PM -0800  
> 
> Hi List,
> When there are multiple messages in a conversation, i have noticed that you 
> can use vo-j to get to all of them. If you press delete the first message is 
> gone and the next one in the stack appears. How can I move between threaded 
> messages without having to delete any of them? Thanks.
> Marc
>  
> 
> Teresa Cochran  Jan 25 11:30PM -0800  
> 
> Hi, Marc,
>  
> In the message list, you can expand a conversation by using right-arrow. 
> Also, in the message content area, without interacting with the text, you can 
> VO left and right arrow, and VO will read the entire content of the focussed 
> message to you.
>  
> HTH,
> Teresa
>  
> "Slow down; you'll get there faster."
>  
> On Jan 25, 2012, at 7:50 PM, Marc Sutton wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> "John Sanfilippo"  Jan 26 09:07AM -0500  
> 
> yeah, my question also,
> thanks.
>  
> js
>  
>  
> - Original Message - 
> From: Marc Sutton 
> When there are multiple messages in a conversation, i have noticed that you 
> can use vo-j to get to all of them. If you press delete the first message is 
> gone and the next one in the stack appears. How can I move between threaded 
> messages without having to delete any of them? Thanks.
> Marc
>  
> 
> Tim Kilburn  Jan 26 07:29AM -0700  
> 
> I use return instead of VO-j. This opens the entire conversation and reads 
> the first one in my stack. I then simply stop interacting with the current 
> message, VO-right and can go through each without deleting any of them.
>  
> Later...
>  
> On 2012-01-26, at 7:07 AM, John Sanfilippo wrote:
>  
> > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
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>  
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>  
> 
> Ray Foret Jr  Jan 26 12:51PM -0600  
> 
> In the new or classic view?
>  
>  
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>  
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>  
> Skype name:
> barefootedray
>  
> Facebook:
> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>  
>  
>  
> On Jan 26, 2012, at 8:29 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>  
>  
> 
>  coaching software on the mac?
> Karen Lewellen  Jan 26 01:41PM -0500  
> 
> Hi all,
> I did a seminar yesterday from a company who trains individuals to be 
> health / life / business / whatever coaches.
> during my follow up session today, I asked if their coaching web portal 
> was w3c / wcag 2.0 compliant.
> I got the usual
> Oh we have blind people using it so...
> response to which I asked, "Are you saying all those experiencing sight 
> loss are the same?
> anyway, I am wondering if anyone here may be using this or a comparative 
> program with their mac so I get an idea?
> Thanks,
> Karen
>  
> 
>  Facebook on Mac
> Krister Ekstrom  Jan 26 11:12AM +0100  
> 
> Hi,
> I use an app called Menutab pro available from the App store. What's good 
> with this app is that you can both get the mobile and the desktop versions of 
> Facebook in the app and toggle between them as you like. The buttons are now 
> clearly labeled and the app, although in the menus normally only reachable by 
> using the physical mouse has a short cut key (by default it's control+f) to 
> reach the app.
> I like it very much.
> HTH
> /Krister
>  
> 25 jan 2012 kl. 22:32 skrev Kirsten Edmondson:
>  
>  
> 
> "Red.Falcon"  Jan 26 11:55AM  
> 
> Just for peoples info if you have the original facetab that is now menutab 
> and you will have to remove facetab and put in the trash and empty it before 
> getting menutab!
> hth Colin
>  
> On 26 Jan 2012, at 10:12, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> Jennifer Perdue  Jan 26 09:50AM -0600  
> 
> Hi,
>  
> Could someone explain the purpose of twitter and what it does. Also, could 
> someone tell me the easiest ap of whatever you would use to use twitter. Who 
> would I follow? I am not sure what you do with it?
>  
> Thanks for your patience.
>  
> Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks
> On Jan 26, 2012, at 5:55 AM, Red.Falcon wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> "Sean Paul"  Jan 26 10:55AM -0500  
> 
> Heyya Jen:
> Twitter is is what is known as a microblogging platform. The question that 
> is asked by them is. What are you doing? Most all large news agencies as 
> well as most i

instructions on how to use pages with voice over?

[Chenelle Hancock]

hi everyone:
i have had my mb pro for about sixteen months now and  for the life of me!. i  
am still having problems using page correctly with voice over etc... i wanted 
to know if there were a list of key board commands that i could use to navigate 
pages?.
thank you so much for your time i really appreciate it.
sincerely, chenelle.

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Re: Digest for macvisionaries@googlegroups.com - 14 Messages in 9 Topics

[Chenelle Hancock]

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On Feb 8, 2012, at 4:59 PM, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:

>   Today's Topic Summary
> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
> 
> plugins and audio highjack pro [4 Updates]
> Help getting started with Amadeus [2 Updates]
> question about spell check [2 Updates]
> Amadeus for Marlaina [1 Update]
> New epub Reader [1 Update]
> terminal: prompt [1 Update]
> new episode of getting started with garageband [1 Update]
> x11 [1 Update]
> Demonstrating the iPhone to a larger audience [1 Update]
>  plugins and audio highjack pro
> chris hallsworth  Feb 08 04:49PM  
> 
> Hello all.
> Sorry if this is off topic. Please can I ask, does Audio Hijack Pro have 
> some resemblance to Total Recorder? In other words, can I digitally 
> capture audio with this program? Again, sorry if this is off topic. Thanks!
>  
>  
> Christopher H
>  
> On 08/02/2012 15:07, Matt Dierckens wrote:
>  
> 
> Matt Dierckens  Feb 08 12:00PM -0500  
> 
> Yes, that's what audio highjack pro does. it captures audio from anything you 
> throw at it. fm radio, tape decks, skype, pulsar, safari, and other things. 
> Grab a demo off their site. If you want to buy it, it's only $32. Best $32 
> ever spent.
> Matt
> Sent from my macbook pro
>  
> On 2012-02-08, at 11:49 AM, chris hallsworth wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> chris hallsworth  Feb 08 08:11PM  
> 
> Wow, so there is a Total Recorder equivalent for the mac! Cheers!
>  
>  
> Christopher H
>  
> On 08/02/2012 17:00, Matt Dierckens wrote:
>  
> 
> Matt Dierckens  Feb 08 03:13PM -0500  
> 
> Yeah. If you want, I can do a podcast on it for you. It really is a great 
> application.
>  
> Matt
> Sent from my macbook pro
>  
> On 2012-02-08, at 3:11 PM, chris hallsworth wrote:
>  
>  
> 
>  Help getting started with Amadeus
> Robert Carter  Feb 08 12:53PM -0600  
> 
> Hi,
>  
> I switched from Amadeus to Sound Studio because I found Sound Studio much 
> easier to use with VoiceOver. About all I do is edit podcasts. Sound Studio 
> may or may not meet your needs but it is in the app store.
>  
> Robert Carter
> On Feb 7, 2012, at 4:16 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> Ray Foret Jr  Feb 08 01:32PM -0600  
> 
> For my part, I would very much like to know what you find easier about Sound 
> Studio. In short, what is better about it than amadeus Pro? 
>  
>  
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>  
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>  
> Skype name:
> barefootedray
>  
> Facebook:
> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>  
>  
>  
> On Feb 8, 2012, at 12:53 PM, Robert Carter wrote:
>  
>  
> 
>  question about spell check
> Adie  Feb 08 09:31AM -0800  
> 
> Hi
>  
> I just can't get the VO M to bring up the spelling suggestions any
> more in Text Edit, it still works in Mail. I think I may have messed
> with a setting, but I have been trying various different
> configurations and it seems to make no difference.
>  
> Regards
>  
> A
>  
>  
> 
> Anne Robertson  Feb 08 07:19PM +0100  
> 
> Hello Adie,
>  
> VO-Shift-m still works for me in TextEdit. Did you remember the shift?
>  
> Cheers,
>  
> Anne
>  
>  
> On 8 Feb 2012, at 18:31, Adie wrote:
>  
>  
> 
>  Amadeus for Marlaina
> Marlaina Lieberg <1guide...@gmail.com> Feb 08 09:29AM -0800  
> 
> Alison,
>  
> Thank you so very much! I will play with this for sure. I so appreciate your 
> detailed response, and will be in touch.
>  
> Reach within you, find the beauty of you, then share your light with the 
> world!
>  
> Marlaina Lieberg
> 1guide...@gmail.com
>  
>  
>  
> On Feb 8, 2012, at 4:00 AM, Allison Manzino wrote:
>  
> Hi Marlaina,
>  
> I love Amadeus and use it exclusively for all my recording needs. It's not as 
> professional as Pro Tools, but it works well for my needs. I basically just 
> record acoustic instruments and then track vocals, harmonies etc on top. 
> There are others on this list that are much more expierenced than I at using 
> this wonderful program, but I will give you the commands I use the most.
> To configure Amadeus to use markers, you have to go in the preferences and 
> general by pressing command comma. Then do the following in playback behavior 
> set if selection is empty play from insertion point,
> If selection is not empty play selection,
> The most important one is this one which is display follows playback this box 
> has to be unchecked. If you don't configure Amadeus like this, you will have 
> great difficulty in dropping markers. I learned this from Eric Caron's 
> podcast on Blind Cool tech. Here are the commands I use most frequently.
>  
> to drop a marker is P as in Paul
> to jump between next and previous markers is option right and left arrow. 
> Right arrow with option for next and left with option for prevous. You can 
> also use option left arrow to go to the beginning of a sound. You can also 
> interact with a track by pressing VO shift down arriow and explore the 
> settings there like volume, name the track and paning. To delete a m

using voice over commands with the apple time capsule:

[Chenelle Hancock]

hi everyone,
i am going to be receiving  the apple time capsule  and i wanted to know  are 
there any voice over commands that you can use when the time capsule is  
connected the  mb pro?
this is a new piece of technology that i have not used bfore and  i  need all 
of the help that i can get.
sincerely,  chenelle
thanks again everyone for your help i really appreciate it.

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Re: Digest for macvisionaries@googlegroups.com - 25 Messages in 7 Topics

[Chenelle Hancock]

hi everyone,
i  had a suggestion about what you can use for a monitor for your mac mini. if 
you have an hdlcd tv you can hook  your mac mini up to your tv and use  it as a 
monitor.
it's a thought that i wanted to put out there.
sincerely, chenelle

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>   Today's Topic Summary
> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
> 
> the messages beta [7 Updates]
> Major Finder Problem Caused by Dropbox! [5 Updates]
> Mac OSX 10.8 Moutain Lion [7 Updates]
> instructions on how to use pages with voice over? [2 Updates]
> LibreOffice 3.5.0 [1 Update]
> accessible world classrooms [2 Updates]
> multipart archives [1 Update]
>  the messages beta
> Matthew Campbell  Feb 16 11:27AM -0500  
> 
> Hi all.
> I've just played briefly with the messages public beta and everything looks 
> great.
> One thing that's really rad is that you can easily put emojies in to you're 
> messages without having to jump through any hoops. The best part of this is 
> that VoiceOver reads the different emojies.
> Hope you find this useful,
> Matthew Campbell.
>  
> 
> Matt Dierckens  Feb 16 11:32AM -0500  
> 
> Where do you get this beat?
> Matt
> Sent from my macbook pro
>  
> On 2012-02-16, at 11:27 AM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> Ricardo Walker  Feb 16 11:39AM -0500  
> 
> Its on the Apple site.
>  
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
>  
> On Feb 16, 2012, at 11:32 AM, Matt Dierckens wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> Mark BurningHawk Baxter  Feb 16 08:41AM -0800
> 
> What if you're still purring along with the snow kitty? Will snow kitty play 
> with the messages beta? Hmmm.
>  
>  
> • Mark BurningHawk Baxter
> • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969
> • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com
> • My home page:
> • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
>  
> 
> Ricardo Walker  Feb 16 12:02PM -0500  
> 
> Hi,
>  
> no. You must be running Lion.
>  
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
>  
> On Feb 16, 2012, at 11:41 AM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> Mark BurningHawk Baxter  Feb 16 09:10AM -0800
> 
> I wonder if I can go from 10.6.8 to 10.8--seems to make more sense to wait 
> for the mountain kitty at this point.
>  
>  
> • Mark BurningHawk Baxter
> • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969
> • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com
> • My home page:
> • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
>  
> 
> Matthew Campbell  Feb 16 12:26PM -0500  
> 
> Hi.
> I found a direct download link on Macrumors.
>  
> On 2012-02-16, at 11:32 AM, Matt Dierckens wrote:
>  
>  
> 
>  Major Finder Problem Caused by Dropbox!
> John Panarese  Feb 15 05:09PM -0500  
> 
> Absolutely. If you can get a monitor, that is obviously the easiest solution. 
> In my situation, I don't have the space for a monitor with the current setup. 
> So, the converter box and adaptor fit the bill. However, I do have a monitor 
> around in case I need sighted assistance. I just wanted folks to know that 
> there is a setup that will work if they don't have a monitor and that Apple 
> is not completely aware that the newer Minis still can't work well without a 
> monitor. Please contact me off list if anyone wants the actual hardware 
> recommendations that were suggested to me and I now use.
>  
>  
> Take Care
>  
> John Panarese
> jpanar...@gmail.com
>  
>  
>  
> On Feb 15, 2012, at 4:00 PM, Cara Quinn wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> John Panarese  Feb 15 05:11PM -0500  
> 
> Hi Esther,
> Thanks for saving me the effort of digging up Chris's info. I have it around 
> here, but I can never remember which folder I saved it to. *smile*
>  
> Take Care
>  
> John Panarese
> jpanar...@gmail.com
>  
>  
>  
> On Feb 15, 2012, at 4:40 PM, Esther wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> annelie robledo  Feb 15 10:02PM -0600  
> 
> Thank you for this tip. I have a mac book and lately my finder was extremely 
> slow. I removed drop box from the log in and every thing is good now. Again 
> thank you.
> On Feb 14, 2012, at 10:06 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> Chris Blouch  Feb 16 10:23AM -0500  
> 
> Cheapest monitor I could find with shipping and all was pushing $100 so 
> it's not a whole lot cheaper to go the adapter route, but $40 is $40, 
> especially if you don't have room.
>  
> CB
>  
> On 2/15/12 5:09 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>  
> 
> "Bill Holton"  Feb 16 11:13AM -0500  
> 
> Do you already have another computer with a monitor? If so a VM switch
> would be way to go.
>  
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch
> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 10:23 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Major Finder Problem Caused by Dropbox!
>  
> Cheapest monitor I could find with shipping and all was pushing $100 so 
> it's not a whole lot cheaper to go the adapter route, but $40 is

transfering n.l.s. books to the mac:

[Chenelle Hancock]

hi everyone,
i wanted to reply to the individuals for who wanted to transfer n.l.s. books 
from their s.d. cards onto their mac's. could you just go to the app store and 
download i-book application onto your mac and then just  get your books from 
there or even use blio! as a back up. would that be easier for you to use. or 
is it just that you enjoy using the n.l.s. format?. as for me!  i just use the 
i-book application on my i-phone 4.s.  or blio to read my books. it takes not 
as much time to download  then to transfer the  book from you s.d. card onto 
the mac. That's just for me! and what i prefer. 
sincerely, chenelle

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re: what keyboard or i-phone case do you use?

[Chenelle Hancock]

hi everyone,
i have used for the past 2 and a half years an apple wireless keyboard with my 
i[phone 3.g.s. and my new i-phone 4.s. which i truly do love at the moment etc. 
i also have a case with it and it is a hard cover case. i also have a wallet 
size case that has a  clip on it  so i can clip it onto my my pants if i want 
to etc... you  just place it into the  case and  close the  like like a wallet 
and that's it!.  i used it for my  3.g.s.  so i  then continued to use it for 
my 4.s. as well saying that i paid about 32 dollars for it at the time that i 
purchased my 3.g.s. over  three years ago.  i enjoy my wireless keyboard a 
great deal i just place it into my over size purse  and  go. i can take it out 
and use it along with my  i-phone 4.s.  and  i do not have to bring my mb pro 
with me. because everything is there inside of my  i-phone 4.s. it takes  up 
less space and it is  incredably lighter to carry around so that is why i like 
it. i cannot  wait to get me an i-pad when the new i-pad 3 comes out later this 
year.
sincerely, chenelle

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can you use a romeo imbosser on the mac?

[Chenelle Hancock]

hi everyone,
i wanted to know if you could use a romeo embosser on the mac with  duxbury?
thansk a log for your help.
sincerely, chenelle

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re: apple tv question:

[Chenelle Hancock]

hi all,
i  just only purchased an apple tv about three months ago. furthermore, i  did 
not have any problems with setting it up. i  i  have an h.d.l.c..d  tv thus all 
i had to do is to get another h.d.m.i. caple and connect  it to  the back of 
the apple tv and then  hook the  other piece to the back of the tv. then i  
pressed the  lower right button on the small slender remote control that comes 
with the apple tv three times in order  to  turn on voice over. afterwards,  i 
had my aunt  put in the  internet code and password  in order to hook up to 
netflix and the internet etc.. afterwards, it was a total breeze for me to   
work. i  have never regretted  purchasing  the apple tv at all either. i  had  
purchased  movies, and tv shows  from just using my apple tv and i really do 
enjoy it better then watching  cable for the most part.  the  only piece of 
apple equipment  that i do not have in my hands is an i-pad 3 and that does not 
come out until  march,7/12. but i will wait to get it until  later on in the 
summer etc.. 
take care everyone sincerely, chenelle.

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Read: Logitech keyboard

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hello everyone, it's Chanel! I wanted to know how much was the Logitech 
keyboard? I'm considering purchasing one. Thanks so much have a great day

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>   Today's Topic Summary
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> 
> logitech bluetooth keyboard that works with three devices? [4 Updates]
> About to tear my hair out trying to search in iTunes Store on My old MacBook 
> with Mountain Lion and iTunes [1 Update]
> Logitech keyboard that pares to three devices [1 Update]
> got my New Macbook Pro yesterday [2 Updates]
> Unreal VoiceOver very choppy again [1 Update]
> how to expand folders [1 Update]
> how to check bluetooth wireless and battery status [1 Update]
> closing background apps [2 Updates]
> Popup Menus in Numbers [1 Update]
>  logitech bluetooth keyboard that works with three devices?
> Jeff Berwick  Jan 25 03:30PM -0500  
> 
> Just got this keyboard for Christmas:
>  
> Logitech Solar K760 Bluetooth keyboard
>  
> Jeff
>  
>  
> 
> Ray Foret Jr  Jan 25 02:44PM -0600  
> 
> Can you pair that keyboard with all three devices at once, or just one at a 
> time?
>  
>  
> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in!
>  
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
>  
>  
> 
> Jeff Berwick  Jan 25 03:48PM -0500  
> 
> You can pear it with all three…You select which device by selecting [f1], 
> [f2] or [f3]. David Woodbridge did a podcast on this keyboard. I think his 
> podcast is called Apple Accessibility or something like that.
>  
>  
> Jeff
>  
>  
>  
> 
> Ray Foret Jr  Jan 25 02:54PM -0600  
> 
> Must look this up. Thanks.
>  
>  
> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in!
>  
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
>  
>  
> 
>  About to tear my hair out trying to search in iTunes Store on My old MacBook 
> with Mountain Lion and iTunes
> Christine Grassman  Jan 25 03:51PM -0500  
> 
> Didn't work for me last night or this morning, after updating iTunes. I'll 
> try again.
> Christine
>  
>  
> 
>  Logitech keyboard that pares to three devices
> "Graham"  Jan 25 08:41PM  
> 
> Hi Justin, 
>  
> 
>  
> The keyboard you want is the Logitech k811. 
>  
> They are superb in my oppinion, one of the most handy devices I have. 
>  
> 
>  
> Kind regards
>  
> 
>  
> Graham
>  
> 
>  got my New Macbook Pro yesterday
> Scott Berry  Jan 25 09:43AM -0700  
> 
> Yeah the keystrokes are different but i am enjoying it. DÎÎ 
>  
>  
>  
> 
> BBS  Jan 25 02:28PM -0600  
> 
> Hey Scott. Glad to hear that the Mac is going well for you. I remember when I 
> got the Mac I’m on almost 4 years ago. I was kinda confused with the whole 
> interacting thing with Voiceover, but that I learned that quick. Next thing I 
> knew I was downloading apps on here. I think the first 3 apps I downloaded on 
> here were Skype, Adium, and RS Games. I couldn’t figure out why RS wasn’t 
> working but I found out quickly that I had to put anything with the app 
> extension into the applications folder in order to work because it won’t run 
> from the dog which is a disk image. Now I’m that advanced that I have Windows 
> on this thing, (which I kinda hate doing but have no choice because 
> businesses use Windows and if I could find an app developer that would make 
> QuintinC’s Playroom available for the Mac for free since the owner of it is 
> too cheap to make it himself,) and Mavericks is now the third OS version 
> upgrade I installed myself. So yeah, it’s not too hard to master it. Good 
> luck with your learning experience.
>  
> Shawn
> Sent From My White MacBook
>  
>  
> 
>  Unreal VoiceOver very choppy again
> BBS  Jan 25 02:12PM -0600  
> 
> Hi guys. The only times I have issues with Voiceover having stuttery speech 
> in Mavericks is when starting up my Mac after shutting it down, which is 
> rare, and if using Fusion in the background Windows is doing something heavy 
> like an update or being stupid. Other than that, my Mac runs great. Apps 
> launch fast and it’s all good. As for Bryan’s issue with Voiceover skipping 
> when reading emails, have you tried not interacting with the text of the 
> message and letting VO read automatically? This is what I do and it never 
> skips. Oh and I’m using Karen for my Voiceover. Can’t stand Tom because he 
> sounds robotic. At least Karen has a lot of inflection in her voice.
>  
> Shawn
> Sent From My White MacBook
>  
>  
> 
>  how to expand folders
> Alex Hall  Jan 25 02:51PM -0500  
> 
> Depends on the view. In Column View, use cmd-down to open a folder, and 
> cmd-up to close it. In List View, use right arrow to open it and left arrow 
> to close it (sometimes you'll need to hit it twice). I don't recommend the 
> other two Finder views if you are a Voiceover user. also, Voiceover can 
> s

braille display question in regards to unified english braille commands with i o s 7.

[chenelle hancock]

or VO commands down. I am doing 
> well with interactions. I also have the dock down and how to move stuff and 
> have the Mac pretty much set the way I want. It’s really awesome and 
> everything I wanted. For me Mac was the way to go. I’ll probably do bootcamp 
> in a while but I want to be able to enjoy the Mac OS first.
>  
>  
> 
> John Panarese  Jan 25 06:10PM -0500  
> 
> That is great, Scott. Welcome to the world of the Mac. I just added an iMac 
> to my family of Apple products and am making all the little tweaks to make it 
> mine.
>  
>  
> Take Care
>  
> John D. Panarese
> Director
> Mac for the Blind
> Tel, (631) 724-4479
> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>  
> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION
>  
> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>  
> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> 
> Alex Hall  Jan 25 06:38PM -0500  
> 
> Scott, I have no idea how much you know about Mac resources, so sorry if this 
> is redundant. I run a Twitter account called @VOTips, and the timeline of 
> that account has some really useful tips and tricks for iOS and OS10 from a 
> Voiceover perspective. Then you have www.applevis.com, with app reviews, 
> podcasts, forums, blogs, and guides/tutorials on all things Apple.
>  
> As to Bootcamp, if you're really comfortable in the Mac, I wouldn't. Both 
> Bootcamp and a virtual machine application have their pros and cons, but I 
> made a 200gb Bootcamp partition when I first got my Mac. Now I wish I hadn't, 
> and am about to remove it in favor of a virtual machine. I only did Bootcamp 
> because I was new to the Mac and needed a computer I knew how to use. Since 
> you are already fine with your Mac, you might consider skipping Bootcamp and 
> going straight to a VM. Again, I know both methods are good for different 
> situations, and I encourage you to research them thoroughly before making the 
> choice, but if your Mac can handle it, a VM might be a better solution than 
> taking up a bunch of hard drive space with Bootcamp.
> > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
>  
>  
>  
> Have a great day,
> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
> mehg...@gmail.com
>  
> 
> Hope Paulos  Jan 25 06:43PM -0500  
> 
> Hi all. I have a MacBook air, and am relatively new to it. Can you tell me 
> how I can switch between multiple mail accounts?
> Also, what is Adium? 
>  
> Hope Paulos
>  
>  
> 
> Scott Berry  Jan 25 05:03PM -0700  
> 
> Very true. I didn’t think about that.
>  
> 
>  logitech bluetooth keyboard that works with three devices?
> Brian Fischler  Jan 25 05:30PM -0500  
> 
> Ray, yes the Logictech 7600 is very worth the money especially if you want to 
> constantly toggle between multiple devices with the same keyboard, it’s 
> fantastic.
>  
> 
> Ray Foret Jr  Jan 25 04:40PM -0600  
> 
> Ah, I see. How does that compare to the K811?
>  
>  
> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in!
>  
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
>  
>  
> 
>  Read: Logitech keyboard
> Chenelle Hancock  Jan 25 05:37PM -0500  
> 
> Hello everyone, it's Chanel! I wanted to know how much was the Logitech 
> keyboard? I'm considering purchasing one. Thanks so much have a great day
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
>  
> 
>  Home Phone with bluetooth that speaks to you
> Brian Fischler  Jan 25 05:25PM -0500  
> 
> Hey all,
>  
> Sorry for the off topic post, but this is the only place I thought I might be 
> able to get an answer. I need to get a new home, and just discovered that a 
> lot of home phones can now also connect to your iPhone via bluetooth. I also 
> want the talking caller ID announce feature that my old home phone currently 
> has, and finally figured I would email the list to see if anyone has a 
> corded/cordless home phone system where you might be able to access all the 
> menus with some kind of VoiceOver similar to the iPhone, not even sure if 
> something like this with all the features I want is even made. I found a 
> corded/cordless phone system with bluetooth and talking caller ID and am 
> posting the link here, but doubt I will be able to access all of the phones 
> features, and just wanted to see if anyone knew of such a thing, if so please 
> share the brand and model with us. Thanks, 
> http://www.amazon.com/D358

IPhone/iPad question

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hello everyone, I wanted to know can you read epode files on the iPhone using 
voice over? Thanks a lot sincerely Chenelle

Sent from my iPhone

> On 2 Feb 2014, at 4:21 pm, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:
> 
>   Today's Topic Summary
> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
> 
> Creating Recipes In Mac Gourmet Deluxe vs. iOS [1 Update]
> tip for using voice over on the web [1 Update]
> how to convert unprotected epubs/other ebook formats to txt? [1 Update]
> Questions re iOS [1 Update]
> another question re twitter and facebook [2 Updates]
> Continued Fusion difficulties [1 Update]
> facebook and Twitter and flash questions [2 Updates]
> one system dialogue displayed? [1 Update]
> Work-around for "Annoying issue with sending messages to certain contacts 
> under iOS/7 " [1 Update]
>  Creating Recipes In Mac Gourmet Deluxe vs. iOS
> Jim Gatteys  Feb 02 12:43PM -0600  
> 
> If you vo navigate to the clippings table and then vo navigate to the 
> specific recipe you want to clip and press enter it will open the editor for 
> you to select text. You might have to vo-right a couple of times to get to 
> the edit field.
> If you then go to the top where the name is and highlight the name, you can 
> press command-1 to enter the name, highlight the ingredients and command-5 to 
> enter the ingredients and do the sale for directions with command-6. Your 
> other options like categories and servings/yield will be in that edit session 
> as well.
> Jim
>  
>  
> 
>  tip for using voice over on the web
> Pamela Francis  Feb 02 12:02PM -0600  
> 
> Hello Mike,
> I'm curious in reference to your suggestion having the mouse follow the 
> voiceover cursor with reference to finding things on webpages. How does a 
> setting affect other actions within other documents that may be saved on your 
> local computer?
>  
> Pam Francis
>  
> On Jan 31, 2014, at 4:06 PM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>  
> Hey everyone, some of you may find this useful. There are some web sites that 
> will display certain extra links if the mouse is placed on the first item of 
> a list. For example, if a site says products, putting the mouse on it may 
> open a list of product categories. Really this is bad web design, the page 
> should not change just because the mouse sits on an item, but, if you change 
> the setting in voiceover so the mouse follows the voiceover cursor, you will 
> gain access to these items. I've made this the default setting and have found 
> links on several sites that were not there before.
>  
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> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
>  
> 
>  how to convert unprotected epubs/other ebook formats to txt?
> Annie Skov Nielsen  Feb 02 06:20PM +0100  
> 
> Hi
> Gena.
>  
> I wish there had been another solution. I can set calibre up, but I have no 
> sighted help to turn on the command line, and I am not good at working with 
> command line.
>  
> I have found some programs that can do most of the things we want. But if I 
> could convert to html I could read in ILike2ReadPro.
>  
> Best regards Annie.
>  
> 
>  Questions re iOS
> Tim Kilburn  Feb 02 09:19AM -0700  
> 
> Hi,
>  
> In testing more,the “Shared” button disappeared when I turned off WiFi on my 
> iPhone. When I turned WiFi back on, the “Shared” button would not re-appear 
> until I quit and restarted the Music app. It may be beneficial to go to the 
> App Switcher on your iDevice by pressing the Home button twice quickly, swipe 
> up on the Music app and double-tap to close it. Simply going out of the Music 
> app then re-opening it may not be enough as the app is not actually quit in 
> that case.  If you do use a Firewall, this article may be of use:
>  
> http://support.apple.com/kb/ts2972
>  
> If not, we’ll keep trying.
>  
> Later…
>  
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>  
>  
> 
>  another question re twitter and facebook
> Regina Alvarado  Feb 02 10:37AM -0500  
> 
> Thanks much. Now may I ask what desktop mode is? Thanks.
>  
>  
>  
> reggie and Allegra
>  
> 
> David Taylor  Feb 02 04:09PM  
> 
> Desktop mode shows you the main website, mobile mode the mobile website
>  
>  
> 
>  Continued Fusion difficulties
> Alex Hall  Feb 02 11:06AM -0500  
> 
> Hi all,
> I'm still unable to reliably change control of my keyboard from Mac to 
> Windows and back again. Ctrl-cmd never does anything, and ctrl-g gives me a 
> Mac error sound. I have no idea what I am doing to get focus to switch, but 
> whatever it is it is far from reliable. There has to be a better way!
>  
> Also, there seems to be a delay of half a second or so betw

Changing languages on iPad

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hello everyone, this is Chenelle! I changed the language settings to ration I 
am my iPad mini last week because I was learning Russian and now I want to 
revert back to English? What should I do in order to change it back to English 
again clash thank you so much have a great day Sent from my iPhone

> On 17 Apr 2014, at 12:33 pm, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:
> 
>   Today's topic summary
> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
> 
> slightly ot: icloud based audio discription indiegogo project. [2 Updates]
> Calendar in Mavericks-creating an event that will recur once a month? [2 
> Updates]
> Pages improvement [4 Updates]
> Viewing Recognized Text in Fine Reader? [3 Updates]
> Status Menus Are Gone [2 Updates]
> Keynote Aglore! [1 Update]
> Topic: reading brf files on the mac [5 Updates]
> looking for accessible trivia and word games for mac [1 Update]
> Tips on Abbyy Fine Reader? [1 Update]
> Teamtalk was Re: Good Prospects for Accessibility in Office for Mac [4 
> Updates]
>  slightly ot: icloud based audio discription indiegogo project.
> Caitlyn and Maggie  Apr 17 10:05AM -0400  
> 
> thanks!
> I hope this gets off the ground!
> I’d shell out for it myself.
> Cait
>  
>  
> 
> Christine Grassman  Apr 17 12:29PM -0400  
> 
> Definitely. Sign me up. 
>  
>  
> 
>  Calendar in Mavericks-creating an event that will recur once a month?
> Daniel Hawkins  Apr 17 10:07AM -0500  
> 
> I too have the same question. I tried setting to the second saturday every 
> month. It ended up on doing the same date number, not the second Saturday.
>  
> Also, on the Mac how do you delete dates? cmd delete did nothing and I can’t 
> find anything under the menubar.
>  
> Thanks!
> Daniel Hawkins
> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>  
>  
> 
> Tim Kilburn  Apr 17 10:24AM -0600  
> 
> hi,
>  
> You should be able to set events like that in within the Custom area of the 
> Repeat options. So, after activating the date/time link,
>  
> • choose Custom from the Repeat Every pop-up.
> • Select Monthly.
> • Select the “On The” radio button.
> • Select the proper day, eg. Third and Tuesday.
> • close the window.
>  
> Not sure why it wasn’t working that way for Daniel. Regarding the deleting of 
> an event, when in Month view, you can navigate to the event then go up to the 
> Edit menu and choose Delete. I believe that in some other views, you are able 
> to use the Delete key and/or some other commands.
>  
> Later…
>  
> • 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>  
>  
> 
>  Pages improvement
> Anne Robertson  Apr 17 04:27PM +0200  
> 
> Hello everyone,
>  
> The latest update to Pages brought a big improvement. There is no longer any 
> need to interact with the Paragraph styles button to hear the name of the 
> style. This means that we can now set a hotspot on that button and consult it 
> from within the document. Also, we can find the short cut for a given style 
> by interacting with the styles table and the short cut is shown beside the 
> name.
>  
> Cheers,
>  
> Anne
>  
> 
> isaac  Apr 17 09:37AM -0500  
> 
> How do you set up hotspots?
>  
> 
> Anne Robertson  Apr 17 04:50PM +0200  
> 
> Hello Isaac,
>  
> To set a hotspot, go to the place you want to put the hotspot and press 
> VO-Shift-plus a number from 0 to 9. To jump to the hotspot, press VO-number. 
> To consult the hotspot, press VO-Cmd-number.
>  
> So, in Pages, if you set a hotspot with the number 1, you can press VO-Cmd-1 
> anywhere within your text and hear the name of the paragraph style currently 
> active.
>  
> You can also jump straight to the Paragraph styles button by pressing VO-1 in 
> this case.
>  
> Cheers,
>  
> Anne
>  
>  
>  
> 
> Jessica  Apr 17 12:19PM -0400  
> 
> When did pages get an update?
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
>  
> 
>  Viewing Recognized Text in Fine Reader?
> Phil Halton  Apr 17 10:01AM -0400  
> 
> I use a compatible scanner, there are lots of them, and after scanning, FR 
> Pro recognizes the scanned pages and then opens a save dialog. I save the 
> pages using the default file name “untitled”, and then the document opens in 
> textedit where I can read the doc. I have the format set to RTF and that 
> triggers Textedit as the default app. I suppose if i set the format to .docx, 
> it would open in pages. 
>  
> There is no viewing facility in FR Pro, but quickly saving it in a throw-away 
> file will open it in an app were you can view/edit the file.
> 
>  
> 
> Eileen Misrahi  Apr 17 07:43AM -0700  
> 
> Hello,
>  
> I have been following this thread out of interest regarding Fine Reader Pro. 
> I have not yet purchased it, but I believe from all of the current posts and 
> other discussions in the past that this app for the Mac is the most friendly 
> user with voiceover. Would like to suggest a solution for wanting to quickly 
> scan an envelope, which I do and then use another scan and read on the PC 
> side to OCR an item that needs more attention. I use my iPhone and Text 
> Det

deleting email on your i phone?.

[Chenelle Hancock]

hello all,

I am trying to delete  old mail  from my  gmail account  using my braille pen 
12.  how do I perform a select all  in order  to delete my old messages from my 
gmail account?. 
thank you! so much for your help in this matter. 
sincerely, chenele. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 29 Apr 2014, at 5:25 pm, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:
> 
>   Today's topic summary
> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
> 
> A question about finereader pro and sending text to an aplication. [1 Update]
> A scanner for finereader pro on the mac. [1 Update]
> Having the Driver connected to the Airport Base, on the Desktop. [4 Updates]
> Where to purchase Amadeous Pro [1 Update]
> Sluggish behavior After Updating to Mavericks [5 Updates]
> printer sharing [1 Update]
> Roboform for Mac [1 Update]
> Terminal: is it safe to use? [2 Updates]
> Mailbox Sort Order in Mavericks [1 Update]
>  A question about finereader pro and sending text to an aplication.
> Annie Skov Nielsen  Apr 29 11:22PM +0200  
> 
> Hi all.
>  
> I really love working with the finereader pro for mac. There is one thing 
> that annoys me.
>  
> I have been using the windows version of finereader for many years, a 
> function that I really like is the send to function, but this function is not 
> included in the mac version. I wonder if you could make a script that will 
> send the document to e.g. textedit but without having to export and save. If 
> anyone knows something I would be glad to know.
>  
> Best regards Annie.
>  
> 
>  A scanner for finereader pro on the mac.
> Annie Skov Nielsen  Apr 29 11:17PM +0200  
> 
> Hi Terje.
>  
> I bought the canon canoscan 9000f. This is really a scanner that works. I 
> have never got a scanner to work as fast as this one.
>  
> Thank you for your suggestion.
>  
> Best regards Annie.
>  
> 
>  Having the Driver connected to the Airport Base, on the Desktop.
> Gabriele Battaglia  Apr 29 09:58PM +0200  
> 
> Hello all.
> Is it possible to have these items on my desktop, as they were connected 
> directly to the iMac, instead being on the Airport Estreme?
> Thanks.
> Gabriel.
> —
> Namasté!
> Sent from my iMac27. (Libero)
>  
> 
> Jim Gatteys  Apr 29 03:09PM -0500  
> 
> Are you talking about your hard drive? Maybe external or did I misunderstand 
> your question?
>  
>  
> 
> Gabriele Battaglia  Apr 29 10:25PM +0200  
> 
> 
> > Are you talking about your hard drive? Maybe external or did I 
> > misunderstand your question?
> Hi Jim.
> If configured so, you may have all the external driver eventually connected 
> to Mavericks, on the desktop, as you usually have just the main one.
>  
> That’s happens when drivers are connected via some port, like USB, or when 
> they are available in the same Local network.
>  
> Unfortunately this seem not to be true for those drivers who are link via the 
> Airport Extreme.
>  
> Gabriel
> —
> Namasté!
> Inviato dal mio iMac27. (Gmail)
>  
> 
> Tim Kilburn  Apr 29 03:11PM -0600  
> 
> Hi,
>  
> In the Finder Preferences (cmd-comma while in the Finder), you can check the 
> box to have Connected Servers show on your Desktop. When this item is 
> checked, there will be an icon representing the network drive displayed on 
> your Desktop just like when you have a drive connected directly via USB, 
> Firewire or Thunderbolt.
>  
> Later…
>  
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>  
>  
> 
>  Where to purchase Amadeous Pro
> Jonathan Mosen  Apr 30 08:47AM +1200  
> 
> Hi max, yes, the version from his website is less crippled in a few areas.
> I purchased via the App Store when I first got a Mac, and ran into a couple 
> of issues with more complex functions. The developer converted my purchase so 
> it would run with the version on his site. To be compliant with the App 
> Store's guidelines, an app has to conform to Apple's strict sandbox rules. 
> His version does not.
> Jonathan Mosen
> Mosen Consulting
> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
> http://Mosen.org
>  
>  
> 
>  Sluggish behavior After Updating to Mavericks
> Kristeen Hughes  Apr 29 02:56PM -0400  
> 
> I know this has been discussed before. If there is an archive I can't find it.
> I have a Macbook with 4 gig memory and I hpdated it to Mavericks last night. 
> Things are very sluggish and busy. They are slow to respond and mail seems 
> the worst. I thought 4 gig could run Mavericks on a Macbook. Is this wrong? 
> Are there things I can do to get it to run better?
>  
> Thanks.
>  
> Kristeen
>  
> 
> Alex Hall  Apr 29 03:01PM -0400  
> 
> Are you running all the latest updates? I found that 10.9.2 fixed those 
> problems for me. Also, Mail may take a while to sync everything and settle 
> down, so if it is the primary source of the trouble, see if it doesn't fix 
> itself in a couple days. To test this, quit Mail entirely and go about your 
> normal usage, then open Mail again and see if anything changes.
>  
> --
> Have a great day,
> Alex Hall
> mehg...@icloud.com
> 

learning the russian braille code!. hello everyone!

[Chenelle Hancock]

I am currently  teaching myself how to speak russan.  I wanted to know is the a 
way to learn braille  russian code?.  Is there a website that I could go to 
find this information  outhat?.  
thank you! so much for your assistants  with this matter. 
sincerely,  chenelle 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 29 Apr 2014, at 5:25 pm, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:
> 
>   Today's topic summary
> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
> 
> A question about finereader pro and sending text to an aplication. [1 Update]
> A scanner for finereader pro on the mac. [1 Update]
> Having the Driver connected to the Airport Base, on the Desktop. [4 Updates]
> Where to purchase Amadeous Pro [1 Update]
> Sluggish behavior After Updating to Mavericks [5 Updates]
> printer sharing [1 Update]
> Roboform for Mac [1 Update]
> Terminal: is it safe to use? [2 Updates]
> Mailbox Sort Order in Mavericks [1 Update]
>  A question about finereader pro and sending text to an aplication.
> Annie Skov Nielsen  Apr 29 11:22PM +0200  
> 
> Hi all.
>  
> I really love working with the finereader pro for mac. There is one thing 
> that annoys me.
>  
> I have been using the windows version of finereader for many years, a 
> function that I really like is the send to function, but this function is not 
> included in the mac version. I wonder if you could make a script that will 
> send the document to e.g. textedit but without having to export and save. If 
> anyone knows something I would be glad to know.
>  
> Best regards Annie.
>  
> 
>  A scanner for finereader pro on the mac.
> Annie Skov Nielsen  Apr 29 11:17PM +0200  
> 
> Hi Terje.
>  
> I bought the canon canoscan 9000f. This is really a scanner that works. I 
> have never got a scanner to work as fast as this one.
>  
> Thank you for your suggestion.
>  
> Best regards Annie.
>  
> 
>  Having the Driver connected to the Airport Base, on the Desktop.
> Gabriele Battaglia  Apr 29 09:58PM +0200  
> 
> Hello all.
> Is it possible to have these items on my desktop, as they were connected 
> directly to the iMac, instead being on the Airport Estreme?
> Thanks.
> Gabriel.
> —
> Namasté!
> Sent from my iMac27. (Libero)
>  
> 
> Jim Gatteys  Apr 29 03:09PM -0500  
> 
> Are you talking about your hard drive? Maybe external or did I misunderstand 
> your question?
>  
>  
> 
> Gabriele Battaglia  Apr 29 10:25PM +0200  
> 
> 
> > Are you talking about your hard drive? Maybe external or did I 
> > misunderstand your question?
> Hi Jim.
> If configured so, you may have all the external driver eventually connected 
> to Mavericks, on the desktop, as you usually have just the main one.
>  
> That’s happens when drivers are connected via some port, like USB, or when 
> they are available in the same Local network.
>  
> Unfortunately this seem not to be true for those drivers who are link via the 
> Airport Extreme.
>  
> Gabriel
> —
> Namasté!
> Inviato dal mio iMac27. (Gmail)
>  
> 
> Tim Kilburn  Apr 29 03:11PM -0600  
> 
> Hi,
>  
> In the Finder Preferences (cmd-comma while in the Finder), you can check the 
> box to have Connected Servers show on your Desktop. When this item is 
> checked, there will be an icon representing the network drive displayed on 
> your Desktop just like when you have a drive connected directly via USB, 
> Firewire or Thunderbolt.
>  
> Later…
>  
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>  
>  
> 
>  Where to purchase Amadeous Pro
> Jonathan Mosen  Apr 30 08:47AM +1200  
> 
> Hi max, yes, the version from his website is less crippled in a few areas.
> I purchased via the App Store when I first got a Mac, and ran into a couple 
> of issues with more complex functions. The developer converted my purchase so 
> it would run with the version on his site. To be compliant with the App 
> Store's guidelines, an app has to conform to Apple's strict sandbox rules. 
> His version does not.
> Jonathan Mosen
> Mosen Consulting
> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
> http://Mosen.org
>  
>  
> 
>  Sluggish behavior After Updating to Mavericks
> Kristeen Hughes  Apr 29 02:56PM -0400  
> 
> I know this has been discussed before. If there is an archive I can't find it.
> I have a Macbook with 4 gig memory and I hpdated it to Mavericks last night. 
> Things are very sluggish and busy. They are slow to respond and mail seems 
> the worst. I thought 4 gig could run Mavericks on a Macbook. Is this wrong? 
> Are there things I can do to get it to run better?
>  
> Thanks.
>  
> Kristeen
>  
> 
> Alex Hall  Apr 29 03:01PM -0400  
> 
> Are you running all the latest updates? I found that 10.9.2 fixed those 
> problems for me. Also, Mail may take a while to sync everything and settle 
> down, so if it is the primary source of the trouble, see if it doesn't fix 
> itself in a couple days. To test this, quit Mail entirely and go about your 
> normal usage, then open Mail again and see if anything changes.
>  
> --
> Have a great day,
> Alex Hall
> mehg...

How to can't be downloaded songs from the Rhapsody app lying your iPhone 5s

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hello everyone, this is Chenelle I have been on here in quite some time my 
question is after downloading the Rhapsody app onto my iPhone 5s how do I can't 
be the songs from which I downloaded from the out onto my iPhone itself thank 
you so much and have a great day

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Difficulties with access five using voice over

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hello everyone, the session now! I'm having difficulties using Spotify on my 
iPhone 5s with voice-over E I Rhapsody out as well I'm trying to access my 
music and transfer it over to my iTunes five very on my Mac how do I go about 
doing this thank you so much have a great day Sent from my iPhone

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>   Today's topic summary
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> 
> Alex on IOS 8 [12 Updates]
> any updated podcast on garage band? [1 Update]
> My first clean install of Os X [2 Updates]
> recommendations for headset with i-Phone 5 [2 Updates]
> changing voices on ios [5 Updates]
> Access: DropBox & VoiceOver (VO) [1 Update]
> new version of Skype [1 Update]
> Problems With Downloding Maps In Navigon [1 Update]
>  Alex on IOS 8
> Jessica Moss  Jun 20 01:42PM -0400  
> 
> Oh wow, that will be amazing, I always wondered when/if that would ever 
> happen.
>  
> 
> Teresa Cochran  Jun 20 11:33AM -0700  
> 
> Yes, I would love that. My hearing impairment is such that I understand male 
> voices much better than female ones. Currently, I use Daniel, but I'd much 
> rather use Alex.
>  
> Teresa
>  
> "Twinkle, twinkle, little bat
> How I wonder what you're at"
> --Lewis Carroll
>  
>  
> 
> isaac  Jun 20 01:41PM -0500  
> 
> I would love that too. I currently use samantha.
> isaac
> isaac.heb...@gmail.com
> Skype gold_wildcat 
>  
>  
> 
> Jessica D  Jun 20 02:56PM -0400  
> 
> Yes, I do not like the Daniel voice.
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
>  
> 
> Kawal Gucukoglu  Jun 20 07:59PM +0100  
> 
> I do not like Daniel either. At the present time, I have to use Samantha. 
> However when Alex comes on iOS eight, he will be my preferred voice as I use 
> him on the back!
>  
>  
> 
> Matt Dierckens  Jun 20 03:02PM -0400  
> 
> I honestly wish we had the option of using different american, australian and 
> british voices. I mean, apple has them available to them, why can't the users 
> have a non-jailbreaking option?
>  
> Matt Dierckens
> Macintosh Trainer
> Blind Access Training
> www.blindaccesstraining.com
> 1-877-774-7670 ext. 3
> matt...@blindaccesstraining.com
> Introduction to the Macintosh Operating system and voiceover course available 
> now. Take advantage of our 10% discount for the month of June.
> Spots are limited, sign up here
> http://blindaccesstraining.com/training-courses/
>  
>  
>  
>  
> 
> David Taylor  Jun 20 08:06PM +0100  
> 
> I agree. I have to use the Irish voice on IOS for the same reasons but will 
> switch to Alex if he sounds anything like. I don't know anybody who likes 
> Daniel on any platform.
>  
> Cheers
> Dave
>  
>  
> 
> Matt Dierckens  Jun 20 03:09PM -0400  
> 
> I have a guess that alex will only be available to 5S users, which means that 
> those of us who have the 5c and under will be stuck with Samantha. I'm only 
> speculating this because OSX and the 5S are both 64 bit systems.
> Matt Dierckens
> Macintosh Trainer
> Blind Access Training
> www.blindaccesstraining.com
> 1-877-774-7670 ext. 3
> matt...@blindaccesstraining.com
> Introduction to the Macintosh Operating system and voiceover course available 
> now. Take advantage of our 10% discount for the month of June.
> Spots are limited, sign up here
> http://blindaccesstraining.com/training-courses/
>  
>  
>  
>  
> 
> David Taylor  Jun 20 08:11PM +0100  
> 
> Was OS X a 64 bit system when Alex was written though?Saying that, for other 
> reasons, I suspect you could be right.
>  
> Cheers
> Dave
>  
>  
> 
> Kawal Gucukoglu  Jun 20 08:15PM +0100  
> 
> I'm going to the Apple Store as soon as the sixth comes out! I will not be 
> stuck with the 5S especially if it has wireless charging!
>  
>  
> 
> Christopher Hallsworth  Jun 20 08:18PM +0100  
> 
> Funny I had a dream one night that Alex will come to iOS. This may be a 
> reality soon.
>  
> Christopher Hallsworth
> Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
> www.hadley.edu
>  
> On 20/06/2014 18:42, Jessica Moss wrote:
>  
> 
> Matt Dierckens  Jun 20 03:54PM -0400  
> 
> I think so, but I could be wrong.
> Matt Dierckens
> Macintosh Trainer
> Blind Access Training
> www.blindaccesstraining.com
> 1-877-774-7670 ext. 3
> matt...@blindaccesstraining.com
> Introduction to the Macintosh Operating system and voiceover course available 
> now. Take advantage of our 10% discount for the month of June.
> Spots are limited, sign up here
> http://blindaccesstraining.com/training-courses/
>  
>  
>  
>  
> 
>  any updated podcast on garage band?
> "Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona"  Jun 20 
> 12:49PM -0700  
> 
> Hello is thjere any updated podcasts on garage band?
> am mainly interested in creating music using samples, and also remixing 
> existing music with samples eg putting other samples on top of mp3s exta 
> drum tracks etc
> there any podcast that I can listen to to learn how to use this?
> Hank
>  
>  
> -- 
> websites:
> http://www.solavei.com/hanksmith
> http://qoi

Re: Digest for macvisionaries@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 6 topics

[Chenelle Hancock]

> hello everyone,

iwanted to know if you download songs from a music streaming services such as, 
in the case of rap city using your i phone 5 s?.  How can you remove the music 
that you download on to the app onto your mack? bye the way, i do not use a 
windows computer.
this is chenelle asking this particular question.
thanks so much for your help.
i really do appreciate it.

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Using a braille pin 12 display with the Russian Cyrillic alphabet?

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hello everyone
This is Chenelle,
I wanted to know has anyone trying to use their brill display in reading the 
Cyrillic Russian alphabet in braille? Via their iPad or iPhone? Thank you so 
much and have a great day.

Sent from my iPhone

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> Annoying mac Mail Issue since Last UPdate - 3 Updates
> An app for recording on the mac? - 3 Updates
> turbo tax - 5 Updates
> A question regarding Startup Volume in LowLevel / FileVault Startup - 1 Update
> sorry, one more playlist question - 2 Updates
> File vault encryption? Thoughts? Any VO issues? - 1 Update
> Annoying mac Mail Issue since Last UPdate   
> Deb Lewis : Apr 13 09:52AM -0700 
> 
> When I do VO-J I can't read line by line. It says text but then it's
> still only readable as an entire message. Do you have to be using
> quick nav for this to work?
>  
>  
> Tim Kilburn : Apr 13 11:22AM -0600 
> 
> Hi,
>  
> No, QuickNav should not be part of the picture. The VO-j method, of course, 
> is only usable when the Preview Pane is active. As long as the VO-j action 
> automatically interacts with the Message Content area, it should still work 
> for you.  Should is my favourite word in computer-land though.
>  
> Later...
>  
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>  
> On Apr 13, 2015, at 10:52, Deb Lewis  wrote:
>  
> When I do VO-J I can't read line by line. It says text but then it's
> still only readable as an entire message. Do you have to be using
> quick nav for this to work?
>  
>  
>  
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> Deb Lewis : Apr 13 10:50AM -0700 
> 
> I don' thave the preview payne open so that would explain it. VO-J
> does read the window but in the same way that reading it from the
> scroll view does.
>  
> Back to top
> An app for recording on the mac?   
> Jamie Pauls : Apr 13 11:36AM -0500 
> 
> Hi, Annie,
>  
> Amadeus Pro will certainly do what you want, but at $59, it may be a bit more 
> program than you need. Garage Band is free, but I have not played with it so 
> I don’t know if it would be more trouble than it’s worth to set it up for 
> what you need doing. You can visit www.thetechjuggernaut.com 
>  and check out Matt Vollbrecht’s podcast 
> on Garage Band. Hope this gets you started.
>  
> Take care and have a great day.
> Jamie Pauls
> jamiepa...@gmail.com
>  
>  
>  
> Annie Skov Nielsen : Apr 13 07:23PM +0200 
> 
> Hi Jamie.
>  
> I have amadeus pro, but I have never used it much. Do we have any resources, 
> podcasts or any other resources out there, which helps us to learn how to use 
> amadeus as blind people. I have some problems to figure it out.
>  
> Jamie Pauls : Apr 13 12:30PM -0500 
> 
> Your best resource is Jonathan Mosen’s audio tutorial entitled Become a 
> Maestro with Amadeus Pro. http://mosen.org/index.php/mosen-consulting-store/ 
> 
> The tutorial is $24.95, but considering the money you have already spent on 
> Amadeus Pro, you might as well spend the extra cash for a really well-done, 
> comprehensive tutorial on how to use the program. There are resources on 
> www.applevis.com  as well, but nothing will prepare 
> you for using the program in the same way that Jonathan’s tutorial will.
>  
> Take care and have a great day.
> Jamie Pauls
> jamiepa...@gmail.com
>  
>  
>  
> Back to top
> turbo tax   
> Mike Arrigo : Apr 13 12:33PM -0400 
> 
> The web based version works fine, not sure if there is an installable 
> version as well, but since the web based version works, you can just use that.
> Original message:
>  
> "george b" : Apr 13 09:51AM -0700 
> 
> I used it for the past 6 years and this years is he most accessable. I perty 
> much had access to all and if it didn’t read for some reason something I 
> found if you just went backwords it did
>  
> 
>  
> Did 5 tax returns with it
>  
> 
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Juan Hernandez
> Sent: Monday, April 13, 2015 07:55
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: turbo tax
>  
> 
>  
> Hi All,
>  
> 
>  
> Does turbo tax for the Mac work with voice over? Has anyone attempted to use 
> it?
>  
> 
>  
> Best,
>  
> 
>  
> Juan M. Hernandez
>  
> Access technology Specialist
>  
> Braille Institute of America
>  
> 4555 Executive Drive
>  

Re: Digest for macvisionaries@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 11 topics

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hello everyone,
This is Chenelle,
I wanted to know does anyone out there speak Russian? Also, do you use a broom 
Russian table in order to reap the Cyrillic Russian words via your Mac? With a 
brill display? If so can you Facebook me any help would be great shoot greatly 
appreciate it thank you. Sincerely,

Sent from my iPhone

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> Well, I did it, Pre-ordered the Apple watch! - 3 Updates
> Nothing reads in Word - 1 Update
> accessible adobe on the mac - 2 Updates
> Cant' access help menu in Microsoft Word for mac - 4 Updates
> How do I go about installing Microsoft Office on to my Mac? - 4 Updates
> Converting from pages to office for submission in college classroom - 1 Update
> Voiceover and tables in Microsoft Word - 1 Update
> documentary tv show producer needs a blind marketer - 1 Update
> Thought I would press that button but too much of it tells me not to - 3 
> Updates
> saving messages before sending - 3 Updates
> selecting Multiple files - 2 Updates
> Well, I did it, Pre-ordered the Apple watch!   
> Donna Goodin : Apr 18 03:22PM -0500 
> 
> I had a chance to go into an Apple store this morning, so decided to take a 
> look at the Apple watch. I was very interested in it, but not sure what I 
> would think, based on the mixed reviews I've seen. It was hard to tell much 
> because they weren't able to demo voiceover, but I liked the form factor, and 
> thought the stuff I was hearing from the video demo was pretty cool. Since I 
> have fourteen days to return it if I don't like it, I decided to go ahead and 
> pre-order one. I just got the aluminum sports model, because I figure it's 
> highly likely that I'll want to upgrade when newer generations are released, 
> so didn't see the sense in shelling out the extra $200. Looking forward to 
> its arrival and getting to actually put it through its paces.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> "george b" : Apr 18 01:29PM -0700 
> 
> Cool, when will you get yours late july...LOL
>  
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2015 13:23
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Well, I did it, Pre-ordered the Apple watch!
>  
> I had a chance to go into an Apple store this morning, so decided to take a 
> look at the Apple watch. I was very interested in it, but not sure what I 
> would think, based on the mixed reviews I've seen. It was hard to tell much 
> because they weren't able to demo voiceover, but I liked the form factor, and 
> thought the stuff I was hearing from the video demo was pretty cool. Since I 
> have fourteen days to return it if I don't like it, I decided to go ahead and 
> pre-order one. I just got the aluminum sports model, because I figure it's 
> highly likely that I'll want to upgrade when newer generations are released, 
> so didn't see the sense in shelling out the extra $200. Looking forward to 
> its arrival and getting to actually put it through its paces.
> Cheers,
> Donna
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> gs : Apr 18 04:32PM -0400 
> 
> I guess this is a very wise way to look at things with regard to the 14 days. 
> I just can't see myself getting too much use from it as others have said. I 
> keep my phone in my shirt pocket within easy reach and earpods around my 
> neck. I don't like the way the blue tooth headsets I have tried work with VO 
> and just don't see how having something on my wrist is really going to make 
> that much difference. Maybe I'm off track on this. For visual users I do 
> understand it though.
>  
>  
> On Apr 18, 2015, at 4:22 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>  
> I had a chance to go into an Apple store this morning, so decided to take a 
> look at the Apple watch. I was very interested in it, but not sure what I 
> would think, based on the mixed reviews I've seen. It was hard to tell much 
> because they weren't able to demo voiceover, but I liked the form factor, and 
> thought the stuff I was hearing from the video demo was pretty cool. Since I 
> have fourteen days to return it if I don't like it, I decided to go ahead and 
> pre-order one. I just got the aluminum sports model, because I figure it's 
> highly likely that I'll want to upgrade when newer generations are released, 
> so didn't see the sense in shelling out the extra $200. Looking forward to 
> its 

Russian braille table

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hello everyone,
This is Chenelle,
Does anyone out here know of anywhere where I could find a Russian braille 
table to download to my mac? I am trying to read the Russian braille Cyrillic 
alphabets and other Russian words via Safari with my brill display and I am in 
need of a rush umbrella table!
I have posted this question more than three times on this group and have not 
received a response as of yet!.
Thank you so much! Have a nice day!

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Re: Digest for macvisionaries@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 13 topics

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hello Anthony,
This is Chenelle,
I wanted to thank you I have been trying to get help for two months now and no 
one knew what I was talking about? I was wondering if you can give me 
step-by-step instructions on how to download the BrailleTouch able to my 
computer using my Mac? I'm never done it before and I want to make sure that I 
do it right!
Thank you so much I really appreciate it.
Sincerely, Chenelle

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Re: Digest for macvisionaries@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 11 topics

[Chenelle Hancock]

automatically and it seems to be 
> insignificant which settings I’ve set. I tried different settings but it had 
> no impact on this behaviour.
> 2. I’m not able to find a support address except for twitter accounts of the 
> developers. But I’m not able to send direct messages to people who don’t 
> follow me and so there’s no way to reach them.
>  
> Any ideas?
>  
> All the best
> Jürgen
> Ray Foret Jr : Apr 20 02:06AM -0500 
> 
> First, the fact that you cannot send direct messages to people who do not 
> follow you is not a fault of Nightowl. That's a limitation of Twitter itself. 
> As to other clients, forget it. Nightowl is the one and only Twitter client 
> which we can use for the Mac.
>  
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>  
> Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
>  
> Sent from my Mac,
> the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in
>  
> "Jürgen Fleger" : Apr 20 09:29AM +0200 
> 
> Thanks for your answer.
> I know that this is not the fault of Night Owl. But I don’t like the fact a 
> developer is not availabel directly, in this case even not at all.
> But that’s not my request. Again, thanks for answering my question.
> J
>  
> sadam ahmed : Apr 20 06:17PM +1000 
> 
> Hello, 
>  
> Night Owl was updated yesterday. 
>  
> The release notes claim that some issues relating to account management were 
> addressed. 
>  
> You should be running version 2.83. 
>  
> I echo the sentiments forget any other Twitter client on the desktop. 
>  
> Best, 
>  
> Sadam Mohammed Ahmed 
>  
> B.A. Business Information Systems 
>  
> RMIT University 
>  
> Maxwell Ivey : Apr 20 06:24AM -0500 
> 
> hi; then post a tweet on their time line. you can do that whether you follow 
> them or not. and i use it on my mac. i have the time for refresh set to like 
> five or ten minutes. and i arrow over to the table. while in the table i only 
> move up or down when i want to. and if i want to go to the top i just press 0 
> because there are no twitter i d with numbers at the beginning and so i'm 
> automatically taken to the top. best of luck, max 
>  
>  
> Maxwell Ivey Jr.
>  
> phone 979-215-1770
>  
> Skype Maxwell Ivey
>  
> twitter @maxwellivey
>  
> as mr. midway
>  
> www.midwaymarketplace.com
>  
> email maxw...@midwaymarketplace.com
>  
> as the blind blogger 
>  
> www.theblindblogger.net
>  
> email just...@theblindblogger.net
>  
>  
>  
> On Apr 20, 2015, at 1:45 AM, Jürgen Fleger wrote:
>  
> Alex Hall : Apr 20 10:00AM -0400 
> 
> Others have hit all your questions, so I'll just mention the scrolling. 
> Unless you mean visually, I'm not sure what you're talking about here. If you 
> close and re-open Night Owl, you will be at the top, but so long as you leave 
> it open, your position never changes. Can you describe what the problem is 
> and how we can reproduce it?
>  
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> Have a great day,
> Alex Hall
> mehg...@icloud.com
> Back to top
> For what it's worth: Netflix help center article on accessing subtitles, 
> captions, and alternative audio on various devices 
> Christine Grassman : Apr 20 09:43AM -0400 
> 
> Back to top
> Digest for macvisionaries@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 13 topics 
> Chenelle Hancock : Apr 20 07:49AM -0400 
> 
> Hello Anthony,
> This is Chenelle,
> I wanted to thank you I have been trying to get help for two months now and 
> no one knew what I was talking about? I was wondering if you can give me 
> step-by-step instructions on how to download the BrailleTouch able to my 
> computer using my Mac? I'm never done it before and I want to make sure that 
> I do it right!
> Thank you so much I really appreciate it.
> Sincerely, Chenelle
> Back to top
> Well, I did it, Pre-ordered the Apple watch! 
> Kevin Cussick : Apr 20 09:46AM +0100 
> 
> Hi Donna, Please keep us informed on how the watch performs watching 
> with interest.
>  
> On 18/04/2015 21:22, Donna Goodin wrote:
> Donna Goodin : Apr 20 06:47AM -0500 
> 
> Will do, Kevin.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> Back to top
> Netflix on MacBook Air   
> Christine Grassman : Apr 20 05:52AM -0400 
> 
> I am trying to sign out of Netflicks on my iPhone and MacBook Air. I am 
> double tapping Sign Out on my iPhone, but it is not working. (I had to get 
> sighted assistance to do this last night.) On my macBook Air, I have tried 
> various browsers, and cannot locate a sign out or a log out. There are a 
> bunch of unlabeled links just as there are unlabeled buttons or silent spaces 
> in the iPhone app. So

Re: Digest for macvisionaries@googlegroups.com - 19 updates in 5 topics

[Chenelle Hancock]

Sent from my iPhone

> Hello everyone,
It's been a while since I posted out here. I wanted to know I'm in the process 
of getting the iPad Pro and I wanted to know what Duxberry work with the iPad 
Pro if you're using windows word document in order to emboss a file from your 
iPad pro using your braille embosser?
Thank you so much and have a great day.
> On Feb 22, 2016, at 4:09 PM, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:
> 
> 
> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com   Google Groups  
> Topic digest 
> View all topics
> Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search - 13 Updates
> finally got trillion up and running and have a question. - 1 Update
> battery in Apple TV remote? - 2 Updates
> Questions re tactile covers - 2 Updates
> smart folders - 1 Update
> Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search 
> "E.T." : Feb 22 07:47AM -0800 
> 
> Trump has everything and nothing at the same time. Boggles my mind 
> those who follow him.
>  
> Back to fingerprints. I do not have a 6 do am curious. How does this 
> work? A single finger? Any one of the 10? How many tries does one have? 
> Surely not 10. I see a cretin knocking you down and choosing a finger to 
> unlock the phone then run off with it.
>  
> Ok its Monday and I need coffee. (smiles)
>  
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
>  
> On 2/22/2016 5:33 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
> Scott Granados : Feb 22 11:10AM -0500 
> 
> No you raise good questions.
>  
> It’s a single finger print reader uncle the home button. On the 6S it was 
> upgraded and is very very fast but it’s worked reliably now for me in all 
> versions since release.
>  
> You can scan up to 5 individual fingers and it’s advised you scan one from 
> each hand in case you lose a hand or finger. (seriously)
>  
> The process is you rest your finger on the reader and it unlocks the phone or 
> works with applications.
>  
> Yes, you have up to 10 scans or 10 times to enter your passcode or some 
> combination of.
>  
> You could grab a finger and hold it to the scanner but you can also remotely 
> wipe the phone so that’s of limited value.
>  
>  
>  
> Sabahattin Gucukoglu : Feb 22 04:19PM 
> 
> OK, so I think it’s safe to come out of the woodwork and say what I think, 
> even if it rocks the boat a bit and ruins a good love-in.
>  
> I should qualify first by saying that I’m not American and therefore don’t 
> enjoy the benefits of whatever “Precedent” is set by this case. Nor do I 
> believe that the U.S. sovereignty is indicative of any real trend; at best it 
> is a matter for western “Democracies”, and I daresay you can guess how I feel 
> about those. I don’t even believe the U.S. is safe, given what we now know is 
> possible, following the revelation of the specifics.
>  
> This article, by a Canadian, captures my feelings very well:
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/02/17/why_tim_cook_is_wrong_a_privacy_advocates_view/
>  
> In summary, I agree with the judge. I believe this was a PR campaign intended 
> to attract public support for Apple’s business practices, regardless of 
> Cook’s genuine ethical alignment on the issue. I believe Apple would have 
> acceded to the demands, had they been filed under seal, as Apple had 
> initially requested, and that Apple’s plea was necessary as a response to the 
> FBI’s refusal. I think this firmware hack qualifies as legal 
> assistance—particularly horrible legal assistance, but assistance 
> nevertheless, made more than possible by the ineffectual security of these 
> devices—and that the case for proper security far exceeds any question of 
> legal precedent, particularly when the search was legitimate and would 
> otherwise have been authorised without Apple’s assistance. Clearly, the fact 
> that the judiciary can ask for the data is the vulnerability here, and not 
> that they can compel a manufacturer to exploit a weakness in their products.
>  
> Therefore, the only defence is cryptography; anything less is mere security 
> by obscurity. We must have cryptography that works, is provable and is 
> verifiable. The iPhone does not provide this: Apple maintains the key for the 
> software upgrade process, and that process exposes the weakness of the 
> cryptography now in use to any person in possession of it, including but not 
> limited to the U.S. judiciary courtesy of Apple itself. Between Apple’s 
> hubris and the need for user convenience, Apple is using the court to defend 
> the indefensible, and are fighting entirely the wrong fight. We need 
> cryptography, under our control, and without the threat of trivial 
> circumvention. Until this changes, Apple’s appeal to the court and the public 
> is naive at best and disingenuous at worst.
>  
> So Apple should accede to the FBI, as ordered. It’s the best thing that 
> privacy advocates could hope for. Next time, Apple will have got it right, 

How do you log out of iTunes?

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hi all,

I wanted to know how do you log someone else out of iTunes that used your phone 
without your permission! Every time I try to update my apps from the app store 
this person iTunes name comes up thanks I appreciate this is Chenelle

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 19, 2013, at 5:16 PM, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:
> 
>   Today's Topic Summary
> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
> 
> Importing CD question [7 Updates]
> Problem from Re-Labeling an App [1 Update]
> apple, flash, and vo, was etc. [1 Update]
> Mailing List Conventions: Plain Text Versus Rich text? [4 Updates]
> Audio Boo for Mac? [2 Updates]
> yet more regarding youtube [3 Updates]
> Anyone Upgrade to a 5S on AT&T [2 Updates]
> adding links to mail signatures [1 Update]
>  Importing CD question
> Kawal Gucukoglu  Oct 19 08:04PM +0100  
> 
> Hello everyone.
>  
> I have just imported a CD using iTunes. However, the CD importing didn't 
> complete very well. So I am wondering, if I can port the CD again, would it 
> replace the other CD which was imported? Thank you very much.
>  
> Kawal.
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
> 
> John Panarese  Oct 19 03:20PM -0400  
> 
> In theory, it should, but I have not imported a CD a second time. One would 
> think that if you choose the same info with the import that it will overwrite 
> the original, but I stand corrected if I am wrong about this.
>  
>  
> Take Care
>  
> John D. Panarese
> Director
> Mac for the Blind
> Tel, (631) 724-4479
> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>  
> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX Mountain Lion and LION
>  
> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>  
> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> 
> Kawal Gucukoglu  Oct 19 08:27PM +0100  
> 
> If it does not work, how can I remove the original CD? Very in mind that it 
> is an album of its own. Thank you very much.
>  
> I am away from home just now, and have no access to my iMac.
>  
> Kawal. Sent from my iPhone
>  
>  
> 
> John Panarese  Oct 19 03:36PM -0400  
> 
> You would probably have to delete it from your iTunes library through iTunes 
> itself. Do a search for the album and delete the tracks. If you do it through 
> Finder, that leaves dead links in iTunes. If you have the Apple script to 
> remove dead links, then that’s fine, but I always recommend that you remove 
> iTunes material via iTunes.
>  
>  
> Take Care
>  
> John D. Panarese
> Director
> Mac for the Blind
> Tel, (631) 724-4479
> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>  
> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX Mountain Lion and LION
>  
> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>  
> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> 
> Kawal Gucukoglu  Oct 19 08:45PM +0100  
> 
> Is there a way to slept the whole album in a menu item, and then delete the 
> album once the album is selected in the menu item? Thank you very much.
>  
> Kawal.
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
>  
> 
> John Panarese  Oct 19 03:54PM -0400  
> 
> You would have to highlight all of the tracks at once to do this. If you do 
> your search precisely, this should not be difficult to do. I have done this 
> for fixing incorrect details for tracks on the same album or for tracks 
> imported in from an audio CD.
>  
>  
> Take Care
>  
> John D. Panarese
> Director
> Mac for the Blind
> Tel, (631) 724-4479
> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>  
> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX Mountain Lion and LION
>  
> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>  
> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> 
> Kawal Gucukoglu  Oct 19 08:58PM +0100  
> 
> I have done this too John.
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
>  
> 
>  Problem from Re-Labeling an App
> Brian Fischler  Oct 19 01:10PM -0400  
> 
> Hey all,
>  
> I am curious if this has happened to anyone else as I have now experienced it 
> on an iPhone 4S and 5S both running IOS 7. This problem also occurred in 
> IOS6. When I use the two finger tap to rename an app, for example an app was 
> just called football, and I wanted it called CBS Football, which I typed than 
> hit save and the app name changes to ESPN football and the app is a CBS app, 
> and not ESPN. I have deleted the app and reinstalled it from the app store 
> and it still comes up as ESPN football. So strange as the app has nothing to 
> do with ESPN. I have had this happen elsewhere as I once renamed a yahoo app 
> to yahoo baseball and now my baseball playlist in downcast insists on calling 
> itself yahoo baseball and even deleting the playlist in downcast and creating 
> a new called baseball changes its name to yahoo baseball. So strange and no 
> clue how this is happening. Would love any advice on how to fix this. Thanks
>  
> 
>  apple, flash, and vo, was etc.
> Karen Lewellen  Oct 19 12:11PM -0400  
> 
> Hi Folks,
>

MacBook Pro 2010 with Mavericks for sale

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hello everyone! I have a refurbished MacBook Pro for sale with Mavericks OS 74 
for sale for $1000 if anybody would like to buy you can give me a email off list

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 21, 2013, at 4:13 PM, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:
> 
>   Today's Topic Summary
> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
> 
> Photos in iTunes? [1 Update]
> What do all of you guys think of this? [1 Update]
> Apex + Iphone 4S [3 Updates]
> which macbook is this? [4 Updates]
> Is VMWare known to hold holiday sales? [3 Updates]
> audio hijack pro success. [5 Updates]
> adding links to keynote presentations. [1 Update]
> ibooks and short cuts? [2 Updates]
> Winamp going away [1 Update]
> Safari default home page has changed. [1 Update]
> drag and drop application [1 Update]
> apps for facebook and twitter [2 Updates]
>  Photos in iTunes?
> Tim Kilburn  Nov 21 01:37PM -0700  
> 
> Hi,
>  
> I’m confused as to why you’re using iTunes to deal with photos. iTunes can be 
> used to sync photos to your iDevices but I believe that you should set up the 
> albums or events you wish synced from within iPhoto first then simply sync 
> the specific items.
>  
> Not sure if that was the direction you were going, but hopefully it helps 
> some.
>  
> Later…
> initially set up the albums 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>  
>  
> 
>  What do all of you guys think of this?
> Tim Kilburn  Nov 21 01:26PM -0700  
> 
> Hi,
>  
> I use Cloud services for just about everything. Google Apps is a Cloud 
> service, DropBox is a Cloud service and Apple’s iCloud is a Cloud service. 
> Even Carbonite is a Cloud backup service. In my opinion, these are safe and 
> secure options. Sure there are likely ways of hacking into some of this 
> stuff, but then again, just about everything on the Net has the possibility 
> of being intercepted in some manner or another, even when you’re simply 
> surfing. or sending eMails.
>  
> Later…
>  
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>  
>  
> 
>  Apex + Iphone 4S
> Ibraheem Fakir  Nov 21 11:18AM -0500  
> 
> Dear List,
>  
> I’ve recently acquired an Apex and wanted to pair it with my iPhone 4S 
> running iOS 6.0.1. I’ve tried to pair the phone with the apex through the 
> general/accessibility/braille menu on the phone. Every time I try to pair it, 
> I get a message that says “iPhone could not load driver for Apex”. For kicks 
> and giggles, I tried pairing the two through the Apex’s bluetooth menu and 
> after entering an authentication code on the apex, my phone prompted me to do 
> the same and both devices were paired. I did so under the hands free menu on 
> the Apex. It says that the device is paired and active. I know that I can’t 
> use the braille display like this and to do so I’ll need to start the pairing 
> from the phone. Any pointers on this? Where do I get the driver it needs?
>  
> Thanks a million!
>  
> Best,
>  
> Ibraheem
>  
> 
> Ibraheem Fakir  Nov 21 12:52PM -0500  
> 
> Dear List,
>  
> Figured it out. Disregard this question. Thanks!
>  
> Peace,
>  
> Ibraheem
>  
>  
> 
> Caitlyn furness  Nov 21 03:49PM -0500  
> 
> Hi,
> Have you checked on the humanware site?
> I don’t have an apex myself, I use another note taker, but this is all I can 
> think of..
> Cait
>  
>  
> 
>  which macbook is this?
> Karen Lewellen  Nov 21 11:56AM -0500  
> 
> Hi folks,
> discussing a refurbished macbook with the apple store. it is the 13 inch 
> one and still has my mandatory for me superdrive, duo core. since 
> macbooks are identifiable by nifty names, colors whatever, I am wondering 
> which one belongs to this unit?
> If no one knows I can just ask the sales person working on it with me.
> thanks,
> Karen
>  
> 
> Alex Hall  Nov 21 01:07PM -0500  
> 
> It is probably a non-Retina Macbook Pro, from 2011 or 2012.
> > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
>  
>  
>  
> Have a great day,
> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
> mehg...@gmail.com
>  
> 
> Chris H  Nov 21 07:14PM  
> 
> Think I have one of these. It's a nonretina Macbook Pro and is a 
> Mid-2012 model.
>  
> E-mail Facebook and iMessage
> christopher...@gmail.com
>  
> On 21/11/2013 16:56, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>  
> 
> Karen Lewellen  Nov 21 03:30PM -0500  
> 
> Hi there,
> thanks much. I am not looking at the ghz number, but I was pleased to hear 
> from apple there are still several options like this.
> Thanks again,
> Karen
>  
> On Thu, 21 Nov 2013, Chris H wrote:
>  
>  
> 
>  Is VMWare known to hold holiday sales?
> Alex Hall  Nov 21 12:32AM -0500  
> 
> Hi all,
> I'm about to purchase VMWare Fusion, finally! My question is, with the 
> holiday sales about a week away, should I wait? I may need to demo some 
> things to a client pretty soon, so I'd like to get this done now, but if 
> VMWare is going to sell Fusion for half

How do you create a work ring tone on your iPhone 5c?

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hello everyone! I have a friend that got sent a ring tone via her Instant 
Messenger. However, she doesn't know how to copy and paste the ring tone so she 
can use it as her main ring tone? How do you create a ring tone that's been 
sent to you as your main ring tone on your iPhone 5c?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 21, 2013, at 4:13 PM, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:
> 
>   Today's Topic Summary
> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
> 
> Photos in iTunes? [1 Update]
> What do all of you guys think of this? [1 Update]
> Apex + Iphone 4S [3 Updates]
> which macbook is this? [4 Updates]
> Is VMWare known to hold holiday sales? [3 Updates]
> audio hijack pro success. [5 Updates]
> adding links to keynote presentations. [1 Update]
> ibooks and short cuts? [2 Updates]
> Winamp going away [1 Update]
> Safari default home page has changed. [1 Update]
> drag and drop application [1 Update]
> apps for facebook and twitter [2 Updates]
>  Photos in iTunes?
> Tim Kilburn  Nov 21 01:37PM -0700  
> 
> Hi,
>  
> I’m confused as to why you’re using iTunes to deal with photos. iTunes can be 
> used to sync photos to your iDevices but I believe that you should set up the 
> albums or events you wish synced from within iPhoto first then simply sync 
> the specific items.
>  
> Not sure if that was the direction you were going, but hopefully it helps 
> some.
>  
> Later…
> initially set up the albums 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>  
>  
> 
>  What do all of you guys think of this?
> Tim Kilburn  Nov 21 01:26PM -0700  
> 
> Hi,
>  
> I use Cloud services for just about everything. Google Apps is a Cloud 
> service, DropBox is a Cloud service and Apple’s iCloud is a Cloud service. 
> Even Carbonite is a Cloud backup service. In my opinion, these are safe and 
> secure options. Sure there are likely ways of hacking into some of this 
> stuff, but then again, just about everything on the Net has the possibility 
> of being intercepted in some manner or another, even when you’re simply 
> surfing. or sending eMails.
>  
> Later…
>  
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>  
>  
> 
>  Apex + Iphone 4S
> Ibraheem Fakir  Nov 21 11:18AM -0500  
> 
> Dear List,
>  
> I’ve recently acquired an Apex and wanted to pair it with my iPhone 4S 
> running iOS 6.0.1. I’ve tried to pair the phone with the apex through the 
> general/accessibility/braille menu on the phone. Every time I try to pair it, 
> I get a message that says “iPhone could not load driver for Apex”. For kicks 
> and giggles, I tried pairing the two through the Apex’s bluetooth menu and 
> after entering an authentication code on the apex, my phone prompted me to do 
> the same and both devices were paired. I did so under the hands free menu on 
> the Apex. It says that the device is paired and active. I know that I can’t 
> use the braille display like this and to do so I’ll need to start the pairing 
> from the phone. Any pointers on this? Where do I get the driver it needs?
>  
> Thanks a million!
>  
> Best,
>  
> Ibraheem
>  
> 
> Ibraheem Fakir  Nov 21 12:52PM -0500  
> 
> Dear List,
>  
> Figured it out. Disregard this question. Thanks!
>  
> Peace,
>  
> Ibraheem
>  
>  
> 
> Caitlyn furness  Nov 21 03:49PM -0500  
> 
> Hi,
> Have you checked on the humanware site?
> I don’t have an apex myself, I use another note taker, but this is all I can 
> think of..
> Cait
>  
>  
> 
>  which macbook is this?
> Karen Lewellen  Nov 21 11:56AM -0500  
> 
> Hi folks,
> discussing a refurbished macbook with the apple store. it is the 13 inch 
> one and still has my mandatory for me superdrive, duo core. since 
> macbooks are identifiable by nifty names, colors whatever, I am wondering 
> which one belongs to this unit?
> If no one knows I can just ask the sales person working on it with me.
> thanks,
> Karen
>  
> 
> Alex Hall  Nov 21 01:07PM -0500  
> 
> It is probably a non-Retina Macbook Pro, from 2011 or 2012.
> > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
>  
>  
>  
> Have a great day,
> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
> mehg...@gmail.com
>  
> 
> Chris H  Nov 21 07:14PM  
> 
> Think I have one of these. It's a nonretina Macbook Pro and is a 
> Mid-2012 model.
>  
> E-mail Facebook and iMessage
> christopher...@gmail.com
>  
> On 21/11/2013 16:56, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>  
> 
> Karen Lewellen  Nov 21 03:30PM -0500  
> 
> Hi there,
> thanks much. I am not looking at the ghz number, but I was pleased to hear 
> from apple there are still several options like this.
> Thanks again,
> Karen
>  
> On Thu, 21 Nov 2013, Chris H wrote:
>  
>  
> 
>  Is VMWare known to hold holiday sales?
> Alex Hall  Nov 21 12:32AM -0500  
> 
> Hi all,
> I'm about to purchase VMWare Fusion, finally! My question is, with the 
> holiday sales about a week away, should I wait? I may need to de

Creating a ring tone using your own music?

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hello everyone, I have a friend that just purchased an iPhone 5c! However, she 
doesn't know how to create a ring tone using her own music from her library? 
What are the steps to create your own ring tone? Thank you so much have a great 
day

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 14, 2013, at 11:20 AM, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:
> 
>   Today's Topic Summary
> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
> 
> Questions About Using The Braille Edge With Files Produced On The Mac [5 
> Updates]
> emogees break Voiceover [1 Update]
> skype on the mac [3 Updates]
> great news regarding the Nest thermostat [1 Update]
> Turning off Conversations in Mavericks Mail [3 Updates]
> broadcasting on the mac [3 Updates]
> Mail Filters [3 Updates]
> Applications Folder / Uninstalling Aps on mavericks [1 Update]
> VoiceOver and Numbers: Negative Numbers [2 Updates]
> Command Line: How to Upgrade Macports? [3 Updates]
>  Questions About Using The Braille Edge With Files Produced On The Mac
> Lisette Wesseling  Dec 14 09:16PM +1300  
> 
> You can just select files by pressing space on them. Then d chord will delete 
> all selected files.
> I too have tried deleting that top folder to my cost. you just have to ignore 
> the ghost files and that funny folder. It’s something the Mac puts there for 
> its own reasons I don’t understand.
> Can’t help you with the pairing issue as I’ve had no trouble pairing my 
> Braille Edge with my iPhone. Sorry…
>  
>  
> Lisette
>  
>  
> 
> Eugenia Firth  Dec 14 05:24AM -0600  
> 
> Hi there again 
> I didn't using the spacebar to select files and deleting them all at once. 
> You learn something new everyday, never mind I've had this display for over a 
> year now. I guess that means you can delete those ghost files. 
>  
> I do have some information, however, about pairing problems with the Braille 
> Edge 40. This happened to me, and I have no idea why. I went to the office 
> HIMS office and worked on this with Mike. I guess we spent about two hours on 
> this, and then we ended up calling that wonderful 877 number. 
>  
> My Braille Edgge 40 liked every device, except my 5 s iPhone, so there is 
> probably not something wrong with your Braille Edge, at least mine didn't end 
> up needing repair for the same problem you are having. 
>  
> You won't like to hear this, but I had to erase all my settings on the 
> iPhone. I'm talking about restoring it, so don't do that unless you find you 
> have to. You might go into settings and write down all the ones you can find 
> that you changed from the defaults. Oh, yes, make sure you have written 
> somewhere your Internet passwords. Then set your settings back to factory. 
> You don't have to erase all your data on your iPhone, just your settings. If 
> you're concerned about doing that and losing all your stuff, you might want 
> to call Apple Accessibility at 877-204-3930. If your equipment is too old, 
> like you've had your iPhone for too long, for instance, and Apple charges you 
> the $20, it will be worth it. It costed me a lot more than that to find out 
> what was wrong with my Braille Edge. I made a trip to Austin. I did visit a 
> friend, but I had to pay cab fare etc. to go to the HIMS office. 
>  
> Regards, 
> Gigi 
>  
>  
> 
> Donna Goodin  Dec 14 07:59AM -0600  
> 
> Wow, Gigi, that's just crazy! I can't imagine why that happened, my 
> BrailleEdge paired with my 5S right away with no problems at all.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>  
> 
> Desi Noller  Dec 14 09:10AM -0700  
> 
> Hi Lisette,
>  
> Thanks so much for your help! I should have remembered that command because 
> it’s just like on the Braille Sense Plus I used to have. The odd thing is 
> that I now have 3 of those funny folders at the top of my list, but I guess I 
> dare not delete any of them since I don’t want to take a chance! :) At least 
> I can get rid of all the other ghost files though!
>  
> Desi
>  
>  
>  
>  
> 
> Desi Noller  Dec 14 09:18AM -0700  
> 
> Hi Gigi,
>  
> That sounds like a nightmare for sure! I think I’ll wait awhile to do a reset 
> of my phone! I would, of course, love to be able to pair it with my Braille 
> Edge, but it isn’t the highest priority for me, or really even why I got the 
> Braille Edge. I do still have AppleCare on my phone, so could call for help 
> if and when I decide to do it! Thanks again so much for your help!
>  
> Desi
>  
>  
>  
>  
> 
>  emogees break Voiceover
> "John D. Lipsey"  Dec 14 08:59AM -0700  
> 
> Hey guys:
>  
> Every time I come across an emogee item, unless it's at the end of a 
> message/tweet etc, voiceover seems to just pass right over the item in 
> question. By item in question, I mean the entire message/tweet etc.
>  
> Is there a way to fix this issue? I'm running Mavericks on a brand new 13 
> inch MacBook Air.
>  
> Thanks in advance.
>  
> -John
>  
> 
>  skype on the mac
> Maria and Joe Chapman  Dec 14 03:19PM +1100  
> 
> Hi. I had the problem a couple of times but lately it s

Re: Digest for macvisionaries@googlegroups.com - 10 Messages in 6 Topics

[Chenelle Hancock]

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> On Dec 16, 2013, at 4:23 PM, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:
> 
>   Today's Topic Summary
> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
> 
> OS10.9.1 is here! [1 Update]
> i text express question [4 Updates]
> Terminal: Setting up Incoming IMap in Alpine? [2 Updates]
> Saving attachments in Lion [1 Update]
> Disregard ReadKit Question [1 Update]
> ReadKit Question [1 Update]
>  OS10.9.1 is here!
> Alex Hall  Dec 16 04:14PM -0500  
> 
> Hi all,
> I just saw a tweet that said OS10.9.1 is finally here. I'm about to update... 
> Here's hoping for fixes to Mail and Voiceover, plus a fix for slow app 
> launches and wake-up times. Below is the link to the story, but it is sparse 
> on details for now.
> http://9to5mac.com/2013/12/16/apple-releases-os-x-10-9-1-for-mac/
>  
>  
> Have a great day,
> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
> mehg...@gmail.com
>  
> 
>  i text express question
> Jessica D  Dec 16 10:25AM -0500  
> 
> What about vo space or vo shift space?
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
>  
> 
> Andrew Lamanche  Dec 16 03:27PM  
> 
> Dear Caitlyn,
>  
> I’ve just played with the bookmark feature in iText, and I think I have had a 
> positive result. I’ve created a bookmark by hitting command+shift+m. You will 
> be in a dialogue where on the very left you have a table of all the bookmarks 
> you may have created and when you move right, you will find a text field into 
> which some text is automatically entered, i.e. a few words of the line at 
> which your cursor is located. You can change this text and write whatever 
> series of words you wish here, and move to the right to add the bookmark or 
> cancel or delete a bookmark, I assume one of the bookmarks which may already 
> be in your table. 
>  
> In order to jump to any of your bookmarks, I think you have to make them 
> visible first. The shortcut key combination command+option+m on my macbook 
> air, places the bookmarks table next to the toolbar, just to the right of the 
> toolbar. But it is not easy to find them. Now in order to find it, I had to 
> stop interacting with my text by pressing vo+shift+up arrow. Then I jumped to 
> the toolbar on the left and then vo+right arrow once at which point I heard 
> voiceover say “drawer area”. I interacted with the drawer area and I found 
> the table of bookmarks there and the bookmark button which you don’t actually 
> need because it only activates the bookmark menu which you can get to with 
> command+shift+m. 
>  
> Then I interacted with the table of bookmarks, placed my vo cursor on the 
> bookmark I wanted, then routed mouse cursor to the voiceover cursor with 
> vo+command+f5, double-checked with vo+f5 command to make sure the mouse 
> cursor was on the bookmark and then I performed the mouse click with 
> vo+shift+space bar. 
>  
> Then I stopped interacting with the table and the drawer area and moved to 
> the right until I heard scroll area. This is the area where your text 
> document is. Interact with it, and you should be where your bookmark was 
> created. It worked for me. I must thank you for inspiring me to explore this 
> feature. Otherwise I’d never had known that this can be accomplished. 
>  
> Hope it will work for you too, and hope that my explanation has not confused 
> you.
>  
> Andrew
>  
> 
> Caitlyn and Maggie  Dec 16 01:02PM -0500  
> 
> andrew!
>  
> Oh, *thank you* so much!
>  
> your explaination was perfectly clear and it helps a bunch! I just didn’t 
> have it in me this morning to fiddle with things to the degree that you did, 
> I was just trying to get my reading done in my text book and do the book mark 
> thing.
>  
> I am saving your email to refer to later.
>  
> The i text express to me seems very useful overall and I am useing it now 
> instead of text edit or pages for reading my text books on the mac.
> Cait
>  
>  
> 
> Caitlyn and Maggie  Dec 16 01:03PM -0500  
> 
> Yep, tried both of those.
> Andrew figured it out, so check out his message-wonderful stuff for those of 
> us who use this app!
> Cait
>  
>  
> 
>  Terminal: Setting up Incoming IMap in Alpine?
> -  Dec 16 11:54AM -0500  
> 
> Here is the in coming path I use for gmail, it goes on this line:
>  
> Inbox Path =
>  
> Followed by:
>  
> {imap.gmail.com:993/user=user_n...@gmail.com
>  
> Subbing your user name in the above of course.
>  
> For both SMTP Server and in comming I add this to the very end of the 
> line:
>  
> /ssl/novalidate-cert
>  
> In some installations the ssl secure servercertificate is not recognized 
> correctly and this solves the problem.
>  
> For other mail services, do a google using:
>  
> os10 name-of-service imap
>  
> In general in alpine to add multiple items such as email addresses etc., 
> they are seperated by a comma, I presume this the case for adding other 
> imap email sources too.
>  
> 
> Teresa Cochran  Dec 16 09:34AM -0800  
> 
> Thank you very much. I got it. :)
>  
> Teresa
>  
> Sent using Alpine Messaging

Voiceover voice is question for iPhone 5s

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hello everyone! I want to know how can you download voices like Karen Emily 
Alice etc. on to your iPhone five and see using voice over? Thank you so much I 
really appreciate it sincerely, Chenelle

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> On 27 Dec 2013, at 9:53 pm, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:
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>   Today's Topic Summary
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> 
> Advantages and dis-advantages of the compact and HQ voices of Voiceover [3 
> Updates]
> antivirus for mac, is it useful? [5 Updates]
> reminders [1 Update]
> Using a sig line in mail. [1 Update]
> Dish Network App? [3 Updates]
> toggle bitween windows and mavericks, and partetioning my hd [2 Updates]
> installing Bootcamp [1 Update]
> Problems with iTunes library [1 Update]
> Changing Default Spreadhseet App On My Air when Opening A Excel Workbook [1 
> Update]
> Not go to sleep [1 Update]
> Amazon Prime is it worth it and are the videos accessible [4 Updates]
> "Apple submenu" message, gets quite annoying... [1 Update]
> VO always focusing on the toolbar? [1 Update]
>  Advantages and dis-advantages of the compact and HQ voices of Voiceover
> Sandi Jazmin Kruse  Dec 27 02:22PM -0800  
> 
> hi, for me it is the compact voices too, why? i can speed it up
> faster, which does make sense if yall stop and think about it ,
> imagine a girl speaking really fast, would we be able too understand
> her? properly not smiles.
> If you are like me studying anything that needs lots of reading you
> want to be able too read fast, and the compact voices can give me
> that. The only time i slow it down is when i read nursing books in
> norwegian. else i have it it on about 80. 100%
> merry xmas and a happy new year all :)
>  
>  
>  
> 
> Regina Alvarado  Dec 27 09:09PM -0500  
> 
> Sorry, another newby question! Are there any other voices on the Mini besides 
> Alex, Vicky, Victoria, Fre? Alex sounds high quality, but the rest sound 
> compact. Am I missing some voices? Can I make the others besides Alex high 
> quality as on iPhone?
>  
>  
> reggie and Allegra
>  
> On Dec 27, 2013, at 5:22 PM, Sandi Jazmin Kruse  wrote:
>  
> hi, for me it is the compact voices too, why? i can speed it up
> faster, which does make sense if yall stop and think about it ,
> imagine a girl speaking really fast, would we be able too understand
> her? properly not smiles.
> If you are like me studying anything that needs lots of reading you
> want to be able too read fast, and the compact voices can give me
> that. The only time i slow it down is when i read nursing books in
> norwegian. else i have it it on about 80. 100%
> merry xmas and a happy new year all :)
>  
>  
>  
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> 
> Matt Dierckens  Dec 27 09:52PM -0500  
> 
> Hi.
> Yes, you ca download extra high quality voices.
> Go to voiceover utility with CTRL Option F8. Go to the speech tab with 
> Command 3.
> Now go to the voices tab, and move to where it says, voice name, default 
> voice. Press spacebar, and choose customize.
> Now you will be presented with a able where you can select the voices you 
> would like. Note that these voices are rather large, about 200 or 300 megs 
> each.
> Hth.
> Matt Dierckens
> Macintosh Trainer
> Blind Access Training
> www.blindaccesstraining.com
>  
>  
> 
>  antivirus for mac, is it useful?
> eric oyen  Dec 27 04:38PM -0700  
> 
> virus barrier is NOT free. From what I understand, it does work well with 
> voiceover. Clamsav IS free and also works well with voiceover.
>  
> -eric
>  
> On Dec 27, 2013, at 7:13 AM, Jessica D wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> Regina Alvarado  Dec 27 08:49PM -0500  
> 
> Does the Mac require a virus program? If so, can someone tell me what is good?
>  
>  
> reggie and Allegra
>  
> On Dec 27, 2013, at 6:38 PM, eric oyen  wrote:
>  
> virus barrier is NOT free. From what I understand, it does work well with 
> voiceover. Clamsav IS free and also works well with voiceover.
>  
> -eric
>  
>  
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> 
> eric oyen  Dec 27 06:56PM -0700  
> 
> It doesn't require it as much as windows, however, I would strongly recommend 
> its use. clamsav is a good free version and i

Re: Digest for macvisionaries@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 12 topics

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> On Aug 21, 2014, at 13:25, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:
> 
> 
> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com   Google Groups  
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> advanced voice over? - 6 Updates
> final cur pro and other programs - 2 Updates
> with some explnations please, how can i share my hard disks with mavericks? - 
> 2 Updates
> Accessible FLV video converter? - 3 Updates
> Searching in a large table with voiceover - 2 Updates
> Remapping keys with VM fusion - 2 Updates
> Odd behaviour with arrow keys. - 2 Updates
> DVD Player for the Mac - 1 Update
> a question with regard to ClamXav and scanning e-mails - 2 Updates
> can't figure out how to open NFB Newsline email attachments - 1 Update
> Haptic Feedback Technolegy - 1 Update
> icloud mail questions - 1 Update
> advanced voice over?   
> "John D. Lipsey" : Aug 20 08:32PM -0600  
> 
> Jonathan:
>  
> This hot key to know how many characters are left in a tweet when in 
> YoruFukurou sounds like a dead useful feature. Having never created a hot key 
> for this, or any other purpose come to think of it, could you give me some 
> instructions on how I might accomplish this task?
>  
> Thanks in advance.
>  
> -John
> Jonathan Mosen : Aug 21 02:39PM +1200 
> 
> Hi John, the trick is to create an activity for Night Owl so you have a 
> unique series of hotspots for that app. Then locate the area where the 
> character count is shown and assign that area to a hotspot. If you're like me 
> and like pneumonics, reassign the hotkey for the hotspot to something 
> logical. I have mine on the right Option key with C, for character count.
> Works a treat!
> Jonathan Mosen
> Mosen Consulting
> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
> http://Mosen.org
>  
> Sabahattin Gucukoglu : Aug 21 09:05AM +0100 
> 
> Aha! Thanks Jonathan, I thought that performance bug with activities was just 
> me, but evidently not. Yes, very annoying; put a complete damper on Nuance 
> for me, since I have Safari automatically initiate my web activity, and of 
> course Safari is almost always open which means simply pressing Vo D to get 
> to the dock will produce an annoyingly long pause before I can do anything 
> else. Sincerely hope it gets fixed and I'll dash off a note to Apple 
> Accessibility about it now too.
> "Christina C." : Aug 21 10:15AM -0600 
> 
> How do I know if it’s a Nuance voice that I am using? Are they all Nuance 
> voices except for Alex and some of the low quality voices? I have surely 
> noticed that when I want to change voices it is a very sluggish process. I 
> usually just stick to Ava. I want to try activities. If I use the same voice 
> for all apps, will performance still be sluggish? Is there a work around or 
> do you just have to live with the sluggish behavior?
>  
> Thanks,
> Christina
>  
> Alex Hall : Aug 21 12:58PM -0400 
> 
> Most every voice is Nuance, yes. Alex is not, and the older voices (Fred, and 
> the other old-style synthesizers) are not, but any you have to download are. 
> Yes, the bug is present even if the activity does not change the voice in 
> use. No, there is no workaround I know of; keep emailing 
> accessibil...@apple.com and using www.apple.com/feedback.
>  
> --
> Have a great day,
> Alex Hall
> mehg...@icloud.com
> Tim Kilburn : Aug 21 11:08AM -0600 
> 
> Hi,
>  
> I wonder if this has something to do with announcements. When using the voice 
> Alex, if you switch in or out of the app that you have an Activity applied 
> to, VO announces “VoiceOver Settings Activity along with a view other App 
> notes. If you use a different voice, non-Apple, then this phrase is not 
> announced but silence is not golden. Sometimes, if I press ctrl twice to make 
> VO be quiet, then this announcement/pause is eliminated or decreased.
>  
> Later…
>  
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>  
> Back to top
> final cur pro and other programs   
> Dionipher Presas Herrera : Aug 21 12:59PM +0200 
> 
> i am ust browsing the spec on my computer, it said i do have final cut pro 
> and Aperture, but when i check my computer i haven't installed it. how can i 
> install those? when i go to apps store i need to buy it, but why do i have to 
> but it if it already pack on my computer?
> Chris Blouch : Aug 21 12:29PM -0400 
> 
> What spec are you checking? Final Cut and Aperture usually aren't 
> included on a machine unless you made special arrangements.
>  
> CB
>  
> On 8/21/14, 6:59 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera wrote:
>  
> -- 
> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
> Back to top
> with some explnations please, how can i share my hard disks with mavericks?   
>   
> ramy moustafa : Aug 21 04:32PM +0300 
> 
> Hi all:
> sorry for asking this question again but really i can not do it, i have my pc 
> that runs windows 7, and i need to see teh contents that are on my hd, i need 
> to see them from my mavericks, because on mac i don't have enough space on my 
> hd,
> with step by step, how can

How do you change a wave file to MP3 file using your iPhone five ass?

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hello everyone, this is Chenelle I wanted to know how do you change away file 
to an MP3 file? Via your iPhone 5s using your memo voice recording app? I am 
taking a class at the Hurtley school for the blind and I have to record my 
lessons and I have to send it via an MP3 file and I wanted to know how would 
you go about doing this using your iPhone 5s? Thank you so much you have a 
great Day

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> blind square help. - 8 Updates
> Trouble downloading/deleting TV show from iTunes store - 1 Update
> Smart Mailboxes - 6 Updates
> smtp mail port settings in apple mail - 1 Update
> recording Skype calls - 3 Updates
> Good and accessible NAS anyone? - 1 Update
> Carbon Copy Cloner or Super Duper - 2 Updates
> accessible nas disc question - 1 Update
> insert key remapping not working on right side of the keyboard under Fusion 
> ... - 1 Update
> sharing activities? - 1 Update
> blind square help.   
> Feliciano G : Aug 26 02:24PM -0700 
> 
> Once you have chosen a business or location, you should have the options 
> start tracking and plan a route. You want to select plan a route so that you 
> can use BlindSquare and the third-party application. If the third-party isn't 
> available on that view, you cannot use the app. Google Maps works great and 
> it is free.
>  
> Regards, Feliciano
>  
>  
>  
> Like my Facebook page: https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=690649294341327
> Follow me on Twitter: Www.twitter.com/theblindman12v
>  
>  
> Sent from the Super-iPhone
>  
> Eugenia Firth : Aug 26 04:59PM -0500 
> 
> Hi there 
> Somebody may have already said this, but you can pair Blind Square with Apple 
> Maps as well, which is already on your iPhone. You need to decide whether you 
> want Blind Square to tell each street you come to. If you are riding in a 
> car, you may not want that. You can set this in Blind Square's settings 
> section. I forgot to set that once, and I was sorry. 
>  
> Gigi 
>  
> Jessica Moss : Aug 26 06:57PM -0400 
> 
> I did select "plan a route," and the only ones that were listed were google 
> maps, and maps, which surprised me, considering the fact that the web site 
> says it works with multiple apps, so have no idea why those were the only 
> ones listed.
> Les Kriegler : Aug 26 07:34PM -0400 
> 
> It will only recognize apps that are installed on your phone. Do you have 
> other GPS apps on your phone?
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
> Jessica Moss : Aug 26 08:19PM -0400 
> 
> I had scout maps installed on my phone, but it didn't pick that up, which I 
> found interesting.
> Jessica Moss : Aug 26 08:36PM -0400 
> 
> Which one do you use? I eventually had to uninstall scout maps and go back to 
> google maps, which I had a love/hate relationship with, mostly because it 
> didn't let me know when I'd reached my destination, which was frustrating for 
> me.
> Les Kriegler : Aug 26 09:05PM -0400 
> 
> I use Google maps and most situations, I preferred over Apple maps.
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
> David Chittenden : Aug 27 01:33PM +1200 
> 
> I prefer Apple Maps. 
>  
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
> Back to top
> Trouble downloading/deleting TV show from iTunes store   
> Christine Grassman : Aug 26 09:08PM -0400 
> 
> OK, folks. I purchased season 1 of a television show from iTunes today on my 
> iPhone. I was only able to download single episodes. I attempted to download 
> the season onto my computer by going to my account on my MacBook, but it 
> claimed there were no undownloaded items.
> When I selected "TV shows" in iTunes, it shows the name of the show, but I 
> cannot get to individual episodes.
> Additionally, I cannot delete episodes I have watched already from "Videos" 
> on my iPhone; again, it is only showing the title of the show, but will not 
> allow me to edit by episode. (I can view individual episodes, but not edit.)
> What am I doing wrong? Thanks for any help.
> Christine
> Back to top
> Smart Mailboxes   
> Jonathan Mosen : Aug 27 11:25AM +1200 
> 
> To answer the original poster's question, I have experienced a number of 
> annoyances in Mail under mavericks, but smart mailboxes are not one. For me 
> they are working as well as they always have.
> I like smart mailboxes a lot, and for business purposes they really help me 
> to keep track of different projects easily. For example, I have a smart 
> mailbox for each book and tutorial I have produced, where I keep purchase 
> records and confirmation emails. It makes it easy for me to see who has 
> purchased what, and if I need to, to contact everyone who purchased a product 
> at once. Very nifty.
> I don't think smart mailboxes are the best tool for putting messages from 
> lists into a specific folder though.

How to fix a CD drive on a Mac Mini

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hello everyone, this is Chanel it's been a long time since I've posted out here 
however, a friend of mine has a Mac Mini 2009 city drive is not working 
correctly in the spitting out CDs we went to system preferences then to city 
drive we checked all the boxes that needed to be church and it was still 
spinning out the CDs she's trying to upload music to her iTunes library and 
cannot do this task because your driver is not working so what is shesupposed 
to do about this problem any assistance would be gratefully appreciated thank 
you so much

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> It’s official, Apple confirms October 16th special event: ‘It’s been way too 
> long’ - 10 Updates
> hot to download youtube videos on mac? - 1 Update
> select all in pages and text issue - 5 Updates
> mactubes question - 5 Updates
> iCloud - 2 Updates
> need some help with mactubes: how to dowload videos and to search for author? 
> - 2 Updates
> It’s official, Apple confirms October 16th special event: ‘It’s been way too 
> long’   
> Sabahattin Gucukoglu : Oct 08 11:23PM +0100 
> 
> My newly-arrived iPhone 6 Plus seems perfectly robust. I love it. What's all 
> the whinging about? You'd have to go mad at it to bend this.
>  
> As to the new stuff, well, I'll have to save up for anything new, but I think 
> it likely I'll be staying put regardless. My earnest wish, should I ever have 
> the good fortune to get it, would be a top-spec Mac Pro for all my server and 
> virtualisation duties; then I could give up on hounding the Minis all the 
> time. The iMac--despite the fact that I keep plugging in optical drives, I'll 
> keep my mid 11. iPad--nah, time to step off that bandwagon, I fancy, and not 
> just because the iPhone 6 really is big enough for my needs. The current 
> full-sized iPad Air is just fine, and I don't need anything else. The watch 
> can wait until it's proven. So really, the Mac Mini, if I don't cast it aside 
> and keep saving up for a Pro, which Apple is well within its power to ensure 
> doesn't happen.
>  
> Much as I love Apple products, I happen to agree with those who worry about 
> the incremental nature of recent announcements. Not sure what the problem is 
> there; perhaps Apple should go back to touting functionality rather than 
> specs, which is always a losing battle for Apple nowadays. And their costs 
> too; something needs to be done about those, or else Apple will end up in the 
> same place with iOS as it is for the Mac ecosystem, which is actually showing 
> some gratifying growth. Now that Windows 9--sorry, 10--is announced, with 
> Windows 7-compatible metaphors, it remains to see whether that trend will 
> continue, or whether it wasn't just the Windows 8 escapists gasping for a 
> quick breath of usability. It'd be the ultimate irony if Micros~1 failed yet 
> again, and Mac gained market share not because of some intrinsic superiority, 
> but simply that the alternative was much worse. :)
> Jamie Pauls : Oct 08 08:58PM -0500 
> 
> This pretty much echoes what the panel on MacBreak Weekly said on their 
> latest podcast. The latest tokes is that people are claiming that their hair 
> is getting caught in their iPhones. Things are getting a little out of hand 
> if you ask me. I plan to get an iPhone six as soon as IiOS 8.1 comes out.
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
> Cheree Heppe : Oct 08 07:24PM -0700 
> 
> I had been waiting to upgrade my phone for some time and did choose the 
> 6plus. The phone isn't here yet, but feels like a mini, mini in my hand. I 
> did test to see if it would fit in my pocket -- and it did.
> I have not upgraded my current phone to IOS 8 due to multiple bug warnings 
> from a number of blind people around here.
>  
> Sent from my IPhone 4S
>  
> On 8 Oct 2014, at 13:00, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
>  
> No, the bugs aren't all ironed out but I for one wasn't expecting that this 
> soon. As for never wanting to own a 6+ and not being crazy about the 6, 
> that's opinion to which we are al entitled. I am enjoying my 6+, with iOS8 
> despite the bugs, imensely and the reason many different phones are available 
> and sell well is because people's likes and dislikes are diverse. I realize a 
> lot of people feel the 6+ is too large and that certainly is a valid opinion; 
> for myself, I would upgrade my remaining 5S to a 6+ now if I could which is 
> probably minority opinion but proves the diversity of people's responses. As 
> for bending, I am not expecting that to happen, but if it does I have Apple 
> Care and wil request a replacement just as I would for any other product.
>  
>  
>  
> -- 
> Cheryl
>  
> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
> thrown in the trash!
> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
> His joy for my despairing tears!
> And n

How do you download voices for your Mac?

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hello everyone! How do you download voices from Jimac using accessibility? 
Thank you so much have a great day

Sent from my iPhone

> On 17 Oct 2014, at 4:24 am, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:
> 
> 
> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com   Google Groups  
> Topic digest 
> View all topics
> The latest version of Garage Band going busy - 3 Updates
> answering calls on the mac? - 3 Updates
> Has Applevis Published The New VO Features Of Yosemite Yet? - 5 Updates
> Yosemite Update - 3 Updates
> Is Anyone Else Having Problems Making Bootable Version Of Yosemite? - 2 
> Updates
> starting to get irritated by IOS 8 - 2 Updates
> One Password - 2 Updates
> selective folders in Dropbox - 1 Update
> Scripting VoiceOver Utility - 1 Update
> Keychain on the Mac - 3 Updates
> The latest version of Garage Band going busy   
> Vic : Oct 17 12:03AM -0700 
> 
> Hello.
> A couple of hours ago I downloaded the latest update to Garage Band which 
> promised some accessibility fixes.
> While the fixes were there, for example, the time is now announced, the 
> "smart controls inspector" is fairly accessible, etc, I stumbled upon the 
> problem of GB going busy to the point where I had to force quit the program.
> Has anyone experienced this behavior?
>  
> Best,
> Victor
> George Cassell : Oct 17 12:32AM -0700 
> 
> Can anyone tell me what a “badge” means in Mail? 
>  
> — George
> christopher hallsworth : Oct 17 09:16AM +0100 
> 
> When you see a badge VoiceOver tells you the number of unread items besides 
> the app with the badge icon. For example Mail may show a badge with 1 unread 
> email. Not sure what it looks like; maybe a picture of a badge you would wear 
> on your shirt for example.
>  
> Sent from my Macbook Pro
>  
> Back to top
> answering calls on the mac?   
> May McDonald Homuth : Oct 17 04:10AM -0400 
> 
> Hey there everyone.
>  
> For those that have the latest OS for the mac is there a setting I need to 
> find or app so that calls also show on my mac?
>  
> I've looked everywhere and can't figure what I'm missing, thanks.
>  
> May and LD, Luna Moon!
> www.canadianlynx.ca
> m...@canadianlynx.ca
> christopher hallsworth : Oct 17 09:12AM +0100 
> 
> Open FaceTime, then its preferences and make sure iPhone cellular calls is 
> checked. You need to also ensure this is turned on for your iPhone. You do 
> this by opening Settings then FaceTime.
>  
> Sent from my Macbook Pro
>  
> May McDonald Homuth : Oct 17 04:14AM -0400 
> 
> lol, ok, now I feel stupid hahah thanks.
>  
> May and LD, Luna Moon!
> www.canadianlynx.ca
> m...@canadianlynx.ca
>  
> May and LD, Luna Moon!
> www.canadianlynx.ca
>  
> Back to top
> Has Applevis Published The New VO Features Of Yosemite Yet?   
> Shawn Krasniuk : Oct 16 10:06PM -0500 
> 
> Hey all. Like I said in my previous message, it took three tries, but 
> Yosemite is finally on my Mac. I was just wondering if Applevis posted the 
> new VO features of Yosemite yet. I know I was a beta tester since July, but 
> to be honest, I didn't notice any new features at all besides the system wide 
> features that Apple talked about.
> As for beta testing Yosemite, it was quite the experience. I remember with 
> beta 2 I thought my computer would never start up, because it stayed on the 
> Apple screen for God knows how long. Maybe it's because this thing is almost 
> 4 years old, but who knows. Also in one of the betas, I think it was either 
> beta 3 or 4, the software update option in the Apple menu disappeared, and 
> even with the general public release it's not there. And on my end at least, 
> when booting up, I no longer hear the start up chime. I just see the Apple 
> logo. This started in beta 6. But one of the great things about this version, 
> and some of you may notice it as well, you can see a notification that your 
> Mac is being optomized and that it may effect your performance and battery. I 
> think they should've done that before Yosemite, but I digress. Also, on my 
> end at least, they kept the feedback assistant app so if you have any 
> problems, you can report them with that app. All in all, Yosemite is awesome, 
> and it was a pleasure beta testing it all this summer up until now.
>  
> Shawn
> Sent From My White MacBook
> Alex Hall : Oct 16 11:36PM -0400 
> 
> Yes, that article went up a few hours ago. Here's the link:
> http://www.applevis.com/blog/apple-mac-os-x-news/features-and-bugs-os-x-1010-yosemite
>  
> --
> Have a great day,
> Alex Hall
> mehg...@icloud.com
> Maria and Joe Chapman : Oct 17 03:49PM +1000 
> 
> Hi. just reading about the voice over lag bug with Yosemite. is anyone who 
> has updated experienced this bug? How bad is it?
>  
> 
> regards
> Maria and crew from australia
> bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
>  
>  
>  
> "Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona" : Oct 16 
> 10:21PM -0700  
> 
> I am running in to it on my mac mini
> at least on my machine its pritty bad
>  
> On 10/16/2014 10:49 

Re: Digest for macvisionaries@googlegroups.com - 25 Messages in 2 Topics

[Chenelle Hancock]

> 
> Hello everyone! I think blind people need to start complaining about what 
> they dollhouse and be grateful for what they do house! Every guys to faults 
> in technology not everyone is so happy with technology! And everyone can 
> afford a droid or an iPhone! But it was about six years a girl win the first 
> iPhone email and it was accessible until two years later when the Kim out 
> with the 3GS

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Re: Digest for macvisionaries@googlegroups.com - 25 Messages in 2 Topics

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hello everyone! I have to agree with Christine I don't think that you need a 
special phone Carrie are in order to have an iPhone that's assessable for blind 
people who are not TechNet technologically savvy

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On 07/06/2013, at 14:13, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:

>   Today's Topic Summary
> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
> 
> OT: Mobile Carrier for the Visually Impaired? Um, What's the Point? [24 
> Updates]
> Blogging sites [1 Update]
>  OT: Mobile Carrier for the Visually Impaired? Um, What's the Point?
> Donna Goodin  Jun 07 10:06AM -0500  
> 
> I'm with you, Christine. I don't get it,
> donna
>  
> 
> Mike Arrigo  Jun 07 11:54AM -0400  
> 
> We really don't, especially with the out of box accessibility that is 
> provided by IOS and Android. There's simply no need for specialty phones.
> Original message:
>  
> 
> Christine Grassman  Jun 07 12:13PM -0400  
> 
> Not just a specialty phone, though: a specialty carrier providing those 
> phones. Such things make equality and equity harder for us; it makes it 
> possible for companies to say, "Well, there's that special company helping 
> the visually impaired, so there is no need for us to make our goods and 
> services accessible. This perpetuates the idea that we require marginalized 
> goods and services as well, which has ramifications for education, 
> employment, recreation, and integration into our communities at every level.
> Christine
>  
>  
>  
> 
> "Michael Babcock, Marketing and Sales Manager, Commtech LLC" 
>  Jun 07 10:19AM -0600  
> 
> I think we all are looking at this the completely wrong way! Look at it from 
> this point of view, you're able to dial 611 from your phone, because somehow 
> you disabled speech on your iPhone. However, in the current time, if we 
> dialed 611 and STA just how we would be able to enable speech on our iOS 
> device again, they might ask us what we are talking about, or transfer us 
> around to a myriad of different individuals who still don't know what we're 
> talking about. However, if a blind person is able to pick up his phone, dial 
> 611, and receive assistive technology assistance, this might be more 
> beneficial to him. In addition, there are several smaller carriers out there, 
> especially running on the T-Mobile network, like this one appears to do. Just 
> something to think about, imagine being able to call customer service, and 
> getting assistance using jaws to read that bill, or voiceover, on your new 
> iPhone especially if you're brand-new customer.
>  
> Michael Babcock
> Marketing and Sales Manager
> Commtech LLC
> Web: http://commtechusa.net
> phone: (888) 351-5289 Ext. 704
> Fax: (480) 535-7649
>  
>  
> 
> Richard Ring  Jun 07 11:26AM -0500  
> 
> That is so true! Any excuse that assists companies to ignore accessibility is 
> a terrible thing!
>  
>  
> You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding
> Sent from my Mac Book Pro 
> richr...@gmail.com
>  
>  
> 
> Christine Grassman  Jun 07 12:27PM -0400  
> 
> That's fine -- but we should be able to call such a carrier on any phone we 
> wish, not proprietary phones for that carrier especially. Also, there could 
> still be a company, web site, etc., which specializes in this sort of help, 
> without giving the false impression that a specific carrier must be set aside 
> for us. In my experience, Apple has always been able to find someone who knew 
> about VoiceOver enough to help, or the rep researched it and got back to me. 
> I would be willing to stake money that sighted people have called Apple or 
> other companies, and have spoken to reps who needed to do some research on a 
> particular issue. Few reps are familiar with every possible bug, every 
> technical glitch, tip, shortcut, or troubleshooting strategy. 
> Christine
>  
>  
> 
> "Michael Babcock, Marketing and Sales Manager, Commtech LLC" 
>  Jun 07 10:40AM -0600  
> 
> This is also a preference thing. For example, I was researching other 
> carriers yesterday, and a particular carrier Lightyear wireless kept popping 
> up. I honestly don't even know what they are, it looks like some pyramid 
> scheme program, however, I do know that there are probably some people out 
> there because again it kept coming up. So, it's up to the individual who 
> wants to use it, and I do think it would be a. Interesting program to 
> monitor, and see how well it does. I also do like the fact that it states 
> that 2% of the voice plans will go to organizations that support the blind, 
> so it would be interesting to see which organizations those are, and if those 
> organizations are behind this network!
> AT&T offers a disability number, I don't have it on hand. I am pretty sure 
> that Verizon does as well, and I know Sprint customer service individuals 
> have documentation about accessibility. So, three of the four major carriers 
> I am pretty sure have access to accessibility information. 

Re: Digest for macvisionaries@googlegroups.com - 25 Messages in 2 Topics

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hello everyone! To add to what I just said I think that through the winds later 
night technology Saudi with smartphones such as the droid in the iPhone! Maybe 
there should be a phone where they have the same features that they're kind of 
water down little bit! But understand every time there's a new phone

Sent from my iPhone

On 07/06/2013, at 14:13, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:

>   Today's Topic Summary
> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
> 
> OT: Mobile Carrier for the Visually Impaired? Um, What's the Point? [24 
> Updates]
> Blogging sites [1 Update]
>  OT: Mobile Carrier for the Visually Impaired? Um, What's the Point?
> Donna Goodin  Jun 07 10:06AM -0500  
> 
> I'm with you, Christine. I don't get it,
> donna
>  
> 
> Mike Arrigo  Jun 07 11:54AM -0400  
> 
> We really don't, especially with the out of box accessibility that is 
> provided by IOS and Android. There's simply no need for specialty phones.
> Original message:
>  
> 
> Christine Grassman  Jun 07 12:13PM -0400  
> 
> Not just a specialty phone, though: a specialty carrier providing those 
> phones. Such things make equality and equity harder for us; it makes it 
> possible for companies to say, "Well, there's that special company helping 
> the visually impaired, so there is no need for us to make our goods and 
> services accessible. This perpetuates the idea that we require marginalized 
> goods and services as well, which has ramifications for education, 
> employment, recreation, and integration into our communities at every level.
> Christine
>  
>  
>  
> 
> "Michael Babcock, Marketing and Sales Manager, Commtech LLC" 
>  Jun 07 10:19AM -0600  
> 
> I think we all are looking at this the completely wrong way! Look at it from 
> this point of view, you're able to dial 611 from your phone, because somehow 
> you disabled speech on your iPhone. However, in the current time, if we 
> dialed 611 and STA just how we would be able to enable speech on our iOS 
> device again, they might ask us what we are talking about, or transfer us 
> around to a myriad of different individuals who still don't know what we're 
> talking about. However, if a blind person is able to pick up his phone, dial 
> 611, and receive assistive technology assistance, this might be more 
> beneficial to him. In addition, there are several smaller carriers out there, 
> especially running on the T-Mobile network, like this one appears to do. Just 
> something to think about, imagine being able to call customer service, and 
> getting assistance using jaws to read that bill, or voiceover, on your new 
> iPhone especially if you're brand-new customer.
>  
> Michael Babcock
> Marketing and Sales Manager
> Commtech LLC
> Web: http://commtechusa.net
> phone: (888) 351-5289 Ext. 704
> Fax: (480) 535-7649
>  
>  
> 
> Richard Ring  Jun 07 11:26AM -0500  
> 
> That is so true! Any excuse that assists companies to ignore accessibility is 
> a terrible thing!
>  
>  
> You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding
> Sent from my Mac Book Pro 
> richr...@gmail.com
>  
>  
> 
> Christine Grassman  Jun 07 12:27PM -0400  
> 
> That's fine -- but we should be able to call such a carrier on any phone we 
> wish, not proprietary phones for that carrier especially. Also, there could 
> still be a company, web site, etc., which specializes in this sort of help, 
> without giving the false impression that a specific carrier must be set aside 
> for us. In my experience, Apple has always been able to find someone who knew 
> about VoiceOver enough to help, or the rep researched it and got back to me. 
> I would be willing to stake money that sighted people have called Apple or 
> other companies, and have spoken to reps who needed to do some research on a 
> particular issue. Few reps are familiar with every possible bug, every 
> technical glitch, tip, shortcut, or troubleshooting strategy. 
> Christine
>  
>  
> 
> "Michael Babcock, Marketing and Sales Manager, Commtech LLC" 
>  Jun 07 10:40AM -0600  
> 
> This is also a preference thing. For example, I was researching other 
> carriers yesterday, and a particular carrier Lightyear wireless kept popping 
> up. I honestly don't even know what they are, it looks like some pyramid 
> scheme program, however, I do know that there are probably some people out 
> there because again it kept coming up. So, it's up to the individual who 
> wants to use it, and I do think it would be a. Interesting program to 
> monitor, and see how well it does. I also do like the fact that it states 
> that 2% of the voice plans will go to organizations that support the blind, 
> so it would be interesting to see which organizations those are, and if those 
> organizations are behind this network!
> AT&T offers a disability number, I don't have it on hand. I am pretty sure 
> that Verizon does as well, and I know Sprint customer service individuals 
> have documentation about accessibilit

Re: Digest for macvisionaries@googlegroups.com - 25 Messages in 2 Topics

[Chenelle Hancock]

> Hello everyone! I start the blind community? Wanted to be you call! In not 
> separate! On all things: every guys to technology in regards to it would 
> charts for equal pay every guys that you caught education equal to 
> transportation etc I also decide that they wanted everything to be 
> accessible? However where are you having breakthroughs with assessability 
> three phoned terriers smart phones in the lake! And people are still not 
> here? So how do we start this problem!

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Having voice-over problems with my MacBook Pro

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hello all! I check my MacBook Pro into the Apple store on Wednesday and they 
took off Skype from my computer how many said they should start the problem of 
my voice over being sharpie that when I got it bad it would start up for you 
Sombrilla come online and then into words have freezeups impasse in between so 
I don't know what to do now? Can you help me?

Sent from my iPhone

On 13/06/2013, at 19:11, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:

>   Today's Topic Summary
> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
> 
> downloading or safari issue [2 Updates]
> VM Fusion question [2 Updates]
> iOS user group [1 Update]
> Mail not opening conversations? [2 Updates]
> Foreign HQ voice for iPhone? [4 Updates]
> which OCR app does not support books again? [3 Updates]
> Blogging [1 Update]
> So wait… What should one use for scanning? [2 Updates]
> putting lots of small videos in to one big file [1 Update]
> IPhone and GMail [1 Update]
> Twitter [1 Update]
> I Broke FaceTime on my Mac [1 Update]
> itunes match and play lists [1 Update]
> getting a mac mini to G4 to boot from a USB drive? [1 Update]
> itunes ate my library file again [2 Updates]
>  downloading or safari issue
> Ray Foret jr  Jun 13 03:35PM -0500  
> 
> You know, it's funny that we both should offer exactly the very same 
> solutions to your problem Kerri. Tim, I can confirm your suspicions that CNIB 
> is pretty much unfamiluar with the Mac, Voice Over and how we use it. Their 
> only suggestion was for Kerri to use Crome. How do I know? It's just that she 
> told me herself via Facetime. Also, I actually got access to the text of 
> their response which they sent to her. Kerri, it seems to me that Tim's 
> solutions should work for you: especially the Option+return or enter key. I 
> strongly suspect it's a web coding issue at work here. What makes me think 
> this is the frank and rather surprising admition that at one time JAWS users 
> had the same issue. So far as I am concerned, the issue is more on their end 
> and not yours.  I think it's got to come down to making sure that their HTML 
> is correctly written. Would you not agree?
>  
>  
> Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in!
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
>  
>  
> 
> Kerri  Jun 13 03:55PM -0700  
> 
> Hello, Tim and Ray:
>  
> Optiion enter or force download finally cracked the issue for which I thank 
> you. I never knew this command existed. Yo are right,t eh CNIB barely assists 
> anyone so I like you, Tim barely use it but when I want to use it, now it 
> does work. 
> Ray, yo are correct in your summation that the CNIB assistant was not 
> helpful, in fact, he used a cop out when instructing me to download chrome. 
> All he had to do was put me in contact with other Canadian mac users or ask 
> if he couuld send my contact information to other Mac users. It's just 
> ridiculous.
>  
> 
>  VM Fusion question
> Bill Holton  Jun 13 05:51PM -0400  
> 
> Hi.
> I am trying to use my Boot Camp Windows installation to create VM fusion 
> virtual PC. Can someone help me get started?
> The only options I see are to migrate a different computer into VMware on the 
> same network and to install from a disc. If the migration assistant the one I 
> should use for Boot Camp?
> Thanks
> Bill
>  
> 
> Chris H  Jun 13 11:45PM +0100  
> 
> You can see more about this on my guide of installing and setting up 
> bootcamp without sighted assistance from
> www.applevis.com
>  
>  
>  
> Chris
>  
> On 13/06/2013 22:51, Bill Holton wrote:
>  
> 
>  iOS user group
> Shane Christenson  Jun 11 05:03PM -0500  
> 
> Hello. If I may, I'd like to make a correction. The conference call for the 
> IBUG meetings is every Monday night. The meetings that are face-to-face at 
> the Apple Store, are once a month usually the fourth Saturday of every month.
> Shane
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
>  
> 
>  Mail not opening conversations?
> Alex Hall  Jun 13 05:09PM -0400  
> 
> I think they both do the same thing. Yes, I often use that trick as well, but 
> sometimes I only want the most recent message, or most of the messages are 
> already read, or for some other reason I want to just expand the conversation.
> > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
>  
> Have a great day,
> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
> mehg...@gmail.com
>  
> 
> Danny Noonan  Jun 14 07:35AM +1000  
> 
> Oh I do the same thing a lot of the time. Both methods work for different 
> situations. 
>  
>  
>  
> Danny. 
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
>  
> 
>  Foreign HQ voice for iPhone?
> "Jürgen Fleger"  Jun 13 10:41PM +0200  
> 
> Hi,
> actually the iPhone uses in your home language a high quality voice. At least 
> that's what I know from german and englis

Having problems with my MacBook Pro question to

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hello everyone! Position now again I wanted to now what do I do to fix the 
choppiness with voice-over every guys to my MacBook Pro and went to the Apple 
store on Wednesday and its calf straight from me and when we restarted our 
became back iambic van when I was using it earlier today it would freeze in the 
middle of same I'm using caring from Australia is my mean voice so I don't know 
of it would be that or

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On 13/06/2013, at 19:11, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:

>   Today's Topic Summary
> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
> 
> downloading or safari issue [2 Updates]
> VM Fusion question [2 Updates]
> iOS user group [1 Update]
> Mail not opening conversations? [2 Updates]
> Foreign HQ voice for iPhone? [4 Updates]
> which OCR app does not support books again? [3 Updates]
> Blogging [1 Update]
> So wait… What should one use for scanning? [2 Updates]
> putting lots of small videos in to one big file [1 Update]
> IPhone and GMail [1 Update]
> Twitter [1 Update]
> I Broke FaceTime on my Mac [1 Update]
> itunes match and play lists [1 Update]
> getting a mac mini to G4 to boot from a USB drive? [1 Update]
> itunes ate my library file again [2 Updates]
>  downloading or safari issue
> Ray Foret jr  Jun 13 03:35PM -0500  
> 
> You know, it's funny that we both should offer exactly the very same 
> solutions to your problem Kerri. Tim, I can confirm your suspicions that CNIB 
> is pretty much unfamiluar with the Mac, Voice Over and how we use it. Their 
> only suggestion was for Kerri to use Crome. How do I know? It's just that she 
> told me herself via Facetime. Also, I actually got access to the text of 
> their response which they sent to her. Kerri, it seems to me that Tim's 
> solutions should work for you: especially the Option+return or enter key. I 
> strongly suspect it's a web coding issue at work here. What makes me think 
> this is the frank and rather surprising admition that at one time JAWS users 
> had the same issue. So far as I am concerned, the issue is more on their end 
> and not yours.  I think it's got to come down to making sure that their HTML 
> is correctly written. Would you not agree?
>  
>  
> Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in!
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
>  
>  
> 
> Kerri  Jun 13 03:55PM -0700  
> 
> Hello, Tim and Ray:
>  
> Optiion enter or force download finally cracked the issue for which I thank 
> you. I never knew this command existed. Yo are right,t eh CNIB barely assists 
> anyone so I like you, Tim barely use it but when I want to use it, now it 
> does work. 
> Ray, yo are correct in your summation that the CNIB assistant was not 
> helpful, in fact, he used a cop out when instructing me to download chrome. 
> All he had to do was put me in contact with other Canadian mac users or ask 
> if he couuld send my contact information to other Mac users. It's just 
> ridiculous.
>  
> 
>  VM Fusion question
> Bill Holton  Jun 13 05:51PM -0400  
> 
> Hi.
> I am trying to use my Boot Camp Windows installation to create VM fusion 
> virtual PC. Can someone help me get started?
> The only options I see are to migrate a different computer into VMware on the 
> same network and to install from a disc. If the migration assistant the one I 
> should use for Boot Camp?
> Thanks
> Bill
>  
> 
> Chris H  Jun 13 11:45PM +0100  
> 
> You can see more about this on my guide of installing and setting up 
> bootcamp without sighted assistance from
> www.applevis.com
>  
>  
>  
> Chris
>  
> On 13/06/2013 22:51, Bill Holton wrote:
>  
> 
>  iOS user group
> Shane Christenson  Jun 11 05:03PM -0500  
> 
> Hello. If I may, I'd like to make a correction. The conference call for the 
> IBUG meetings is every Monday night. The meetings that are face-to-face at 
> the Apple Store, are once a month usually the fourth Saturday of every month.
> Shane
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
>  
> 
>  Mail not opening conversations?
> Alex Hall  Jun 13 05:09PM -0400  
> 
> I think they both do the same thing. Yes, I often use that trick as well, but 
> sometimes I only want the most recent message, or most of the messages are 
> already read, or for some other reason I want to just expand the conversation.
> > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
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>  
> Have a great day,
> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
> mehg...@gmail.com
>  
> 
> Danny Noonan  Jun 14 07:35AM +1000  
> 
> Oh I do the same thing a lot of the time. Both methods work for different 
> situations. 
>  
>  
>  
> Danny. 
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
>  
> 
>  Foreign HQ voice for iPhone?
> "Jürgen Fleger"  Jun 13 10:41PM +0200  
> 
> Hi,
> actually the iPhone uses in your home language a high quality voice.

Where do you go to download the caring boys onto your iPhone after changing your English voice –

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hello everyone! How do you download voices onto your iPhone I Wanna download 
the Karen voice because I have my phone on Australian English severity of girls 
to download the voices? Thank you

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>   Today's Topic Summary
> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
> 
> 2 extremely frustrating problems - please help [4 Updates]
> Fusion boot camp or parallel [3 Updates]
> downloading or safari issue [3 Updates]
> iTunes match [2 Updates]
> Nightowl questions [2 Updates]
> Deleting messages from the server when you delete from mial [5 Updates]
> Another totally unrelated question [3 Updates]
> what's the current state of firefox accessibility with the latest version of 
> mac os10 [3 Updates]
>  2 extremely frustrating problems - please help
> Rahul Bajaj  Jun 16 02:03AM +0530  
> 
> Hi all,
>  
> I'm facing 2 weird and frustrating  challenges while using Safari on my Mac.
> 1. Sometimes, when I press command-l, instead of being directed to the 
> address bar, I am directed to the downloads folder in Safari. Similarly, when 
> I press M in Safari, it opens Apple Mail even when I am in Safari.
> This gets automatically fixed when I restart my Mac a couple of times.
> 2. Sometimes, when I use the keyboard to type something, instead of showing 
> the letters that I type, it shows weird symbols like "Ó´".
> Have I inadvertently enabled or disabled something?
> I'm completely baffled. Please help.
>  
> Best,
> Rahul
>  
> 
> Maxwell Ivey  Jun 15 03:57PM -0500  
> 
> Hello; i think your option key may be sticking. because command option l is 
> the key sequence for opening the downloads manager. hope that helps, max 
> On Jun 15, 2013, at 3:33 PM, Rahul Bajaj wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> Maria & Joe Chapman  Jun 16 07:03AM +1000  
> 
> HI. yep i thought that too. 
> Blessings! Maria Joe and loving guide Karly.
> Email/ I Message: &fb bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
> twitter: bubbygirl 
> skype: bubbygirl1972
>  
> bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> 
> Alex Hall  Jun 15 05:12PM -0400  
> 
> Me too. Option-cmd-l opens downloads; option-m, if you enabled the keyboard 
> commander, opens mail; option with most characters types an alternate 
> character, like option-8 for a bullet. So, check the physical key on your 
> keyboard and be sure it is working correctly. If it is not a Macbook, you 
> might want to replace the keyboard.
> > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
>  
> Have a great day,
> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
> mehg...@gmail.com
>  
> 
>  Fusion boot camp or parallel
> "zoe"  Jun 15 09:55AM -0400  
> 
> Ok guys, let's say paralel is out. if I go with fusion, am I to understand 
> that I would not be able to boot windows up independedntly and use windows 
> commands? I like the idea if sharing files and etc between windows and mac 
> but I'm a little afraid of not being able to use windows independently,
> Also excuse me I'm not familiar yet with all the mac terminology, but I 
> think if I get the mac now it would come with mountain lion, but I think I 
> read somewhere that something new is coming out in the fall, should I wait 
> for the fall to get the newest out there or should I stick with the mountain 
> lion and get it now? Also trying to make a desision between the mac mini 
> and the beautiful looking 27 inch all in one base i mac and opinions there?
>  
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Alex Hall" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, June 14, 2013 8:13 PM
> Subject: Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel
>  
>  
> My thoughts are that it depends. I used Bootcamp when I started with the 
> Mac, and installed a boot manager that let me just hit w or m to boot into 
> windows or mac. It was great, since I needed to know not a single mac 
> command to use windows, whereas a virtual machine solution requires you to 
> be able to at least launch it in mac first. That said, I had no official 
> training so had to rely on this list and twitter to learn everything about 
> the mac. Since I still needed to use my computer on a daily basis, and since 
> the mac was my only machine, I felt that being able to use native windows 
> would be the best solution for me, until I was either comfortable with the 
> mac or decided it was not for me and stuck with only windows. Needless to 
> say, I got used to the mac and now hardly ever boot windows, and am looking 
> into replacing my bootcamp setup with a vm solution.
>  
> If you are close to an Apple Store, you could go in there and get help, 
> especially in the first thirty days while your machine is still under 
> warranty. So, since you have access to help, I think a virtual machine 
> solution is better: no partitioning of the hard drive, not needing to shut 
> down to do something in the 

Is there another way to add music/media onto your i phone without using i tunes?

[chenelle hancock]

Hello everyone,

I  wanted to know if there were another  way to import  music onto your i phone 
5 other than  using  I Tunes?
I have a friend that is a new I phone user and  they  own a windows computer. 
They also use jaws but have never used Itunes before. They wanted to transfer 
their  music library  to their  i phone 5 but without  having to use i tunes of 
course. so is there a way to do this or will  they just have to  learn how to 
use itunes?
thank  you so much for your time and help i mostly greatly appreciate it.
sincerely, chenelle

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accessories for the i pad mini?

[chenelle hancock]

Hello everyone,

I wanted to know if there were  a tactile case  for the i pad mini and if so 
would it be worth getting?
sincerely, chenelle
thanks a lot for your help. i really appreciate it.

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The transfer of movies and tv shows from your I tunes library onto your time capsule?

[chenelle hancock]

Hello everyone,

I am in need of some help in the transfer of my movies and tv shows from  my I 
tunes library onto my time capsule? How do you go about doing this with using 
voice over   commands? Any help would be most appreciated?
sincerely, chenelle
thanks again.

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Reading iBooks from the Mac?

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hello  all,
 I use a series  of different  formats in regards  to reading  books on the i 
phone. 
I use the audible app, I books, Read to go,  voice stream and bard  by the 
national  library service.  I am also using my braille display  to read 
articles  from the nfb  website as well.  I also have braille books sent to my 
house  for me to read in a hard  copy format. 
I want to try to disable  my speech  on my read  to go app.  So I  so I  can 
read  the book share  books with my  braille display. 
How do I go about disabling  the speech on read to go. 
thanks a lot  for  your help. 
Sincerely,  Chenelle 

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Re: i phone users.

[Chenelle Hancock]

> 
> Hello  everyone, 

I have been an apple I Phone  user  Since  October 31, 209. When I first 
purchased  my very  first I Phone 3. g s.  I had never  texted  anyone that I 
knew with a smart phone. I didn't  have the proper access  to a smart phone 
where I could text, send email or instant  messages  let alone  download  music 
and video content.  Without  having sighted assistancevery. So when I had my 
brand new I phone inside  of my hands. I was so elated  with joy I did not know 
what  to do with myself  at first. 
Now  I cannot ever see myself with out one. Now I  not only have an I phone  4. 
s. But I have a makdck book  pro and a time capsule along  with an I pad mini 
and  and finally  I have a Apple TV.  That Is how invested  in all things apple 
that I am at the moment. 
For the record I will never go back to the Windows  operating system ever again 
as long as I live. 
Sincerely,  Chenelle 

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Really a PBR with voice-over how do you do it!

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hello everyone! How do you read a PDF using voice over keystroke amounts?

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On 19/07/2013, at 1:13 PM, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:

>   Today's Topic Summary
> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
> 
> mail focus problem [1 Update]
> mail authentication issue [5 Updates]
> In VMWare, what screen reader modifier key are you using? [3 Updates]
> home, end, pgUp and pgDown on bluetooth keyboards? [2 Updates]
> Mac Mini disconnecting from newly WPA2-secured network [6 Updates]
> Help with Finder [3 Updates]
> questions [1 Update]
> Apple Time Capsule setup [1 Update]
> vm fusion [1 Update]
> accessing ftp servers on the mac transmit vs cyberduck with vo [1 Update]
> Software that will convert speech to text? [1 Update]
>  mail focus problem
> Jed Barton  Jul 19 01:09PM -0400  
> 
> Hey guys,
> I seem to be having a problem with mail, and am curious if anyone knows how 
> to fix it. When i first got my mac, when i would vo left and right arrow, it 
> would flip between the sender of themessage, who it's from, the subject, etc. 
> Now thisseemsto have changed. Now it goes between messages. Any ideas how to 
> change this back?
>  
> Thanks
> Jed
>  
> 
>  mail authentication issue
> Kerri  Jul 18 10:30PM -0700  
> 
> . Hello. I've been experiencing an issue in which every time I launch mail, I 
> receive the following message:
> Verify certificate. The identity of pop.shaw.ca cannot be verified. The 
> certificate for this server is invalid. You might be connecting to a server 
> that is pretending to be pop.shaw.ca"
>  
> I researched this on google and they stated to 
> 1. Press show certificate.
> 2. Click "trust"
> 3. Click connect.
>  
> However, when I follow these steps, it asks for my password but will not 
> accept said password. The only way I can utilize mail is to click "connect" 
> every time the mail program is launched. I had this issue when I first got 
> this mac but the "trust" option quickly rectified it. Thanks for any help.
>  
> 
> Tim Kilburn  Jul 19 12:03AM -0600  
> 
> Hi,
>  
> It's an issue with the Shaw certificate. If you follow the instructions you 
> found on the web, it will rectify that issue. The password that it is asking 
> for is your computer Admin password.  So, the password that you use to log 
> into the computer is the one you need to enter, not your ShawMail password. 
> The Admin password is required because you are specifically adding an 
> untrusted certificate to your Mail app.
>  
> HTH.
>  
> Later...
>  
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>  
>  
> 
> Maxwell Ivey  Jul 19 01:42AM -0500  
> 
> let me know if you find out why that happens. it happens to me all the time 
> too. good luck, max 
> On Jul 19, 2013, at 12:30 AM, Kerri wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> Kerri  Jul 19 09:53AM -0700  
> 
> Hello, Max. Did you try tabbing to show certificate and then tabbing to trust?
>  
> 
> Kerri  Jul 19 09:58AM -0700  
> 
> thanks but I don't have an admin password!
>  
> 
>  In VMWare, what screen reader modifier key are you using?
> "Phil Halton"  Jul 19 11:52AM -0400  
> 
> In preparation for getting a macBook Air, and running windows in a vm, I've 
> made the following alterations to my keyboards using SharpKeys. 
> I've set the right option key as capslock, and also, I've set the right 
> windows key(right command) to right control key. I did the control key thing 
> because I noticed in jaws help that the laptop layout sometimes requires 
> control in conjunction with the jaws key, and it was too much of a stretch to 
> use the left control with the right alt (jaws key).
>  
> So, on the bluetooth keyboard, I've got (left to right) 
> function key
> control
> alt
> left windows key
> spacebar
> right control
> capslock.
>  
> On the full-size USB keyboard, to the right of the spacebar, it's right 
> windows key, capslock, right control.
>  
> What are other VMWare users using for screenreader modifier key arrangements? 
> I plan to use both NVDA and JAWS in laptop mode.
> P.S. I suppose one solution to the whole problem is to just carry around and 
> plug in a full sized Apple USB keyboard, keeping screen readers set to 
> desktop layout, but that sounds a little weird.
>  
> 
> Kawal Gucukoglu  Jul 19 05:03PM +0100  
> 
> Hello Phil.
>  
> I too use NDVA and a demo version of jaws mainly for testing as I test for 
> companies using the Mac and Windows.
>  
> Well, to solve all my problems, I have an Apple USB keyboard which I only use 
> for Window environments. I do not have a MacBook Air or any kind of lap top 
> and just use my I Mac, 16 GB for Mac and 16 GB for windows. No pauses, busy's 
> or anything else to put up with. When Maverick comes, then it's a format of 
> my SSD although I haven't installed anything since I got my Mac in January. 
> It's like having two computers although it's only one! Amazing.
>  
> Kawal.
>  
>  
> 
> jon squally  Jul 19 09:48AM -0700  
> 
> Hello everyone,
>  
> I have remap the gr

How do you delete music from your iPhone?

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hi everyone!
How do you delete music from your iPhone?

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braille display vs braille note takers.

[Chenelle Hancock]

> Hello Everyone, 

 I will be starting a brand new job  in Las Vegas Nevada.  I  have to choose 
between  the 40.  cell brailliant  and the Braille sense you too. 
I will be working with the windows platform.  So I wanted someone's advice  
about which one I should get for work purpoqes. 
Thanks so much for your help 
I most greatly  appreciate  it. 
Sincerely, Chenelle Hncck. 

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Re: Digest for macvisionaries@googlegroups.com - 25 Messages in 7 Topics

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hello everyone!

Sent from my iPhone

On 10/09/2013, at 4:41 PM, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:

>   Today's Topic Summary
> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
> 
> Apple Keynote [7 Updates]
> Thanks Tommy. I caught Leo Laport's coverage. [1 Update]
> transferring app from lion to ml [3 Updates]
> Does anyone have a guide on how to install Ubuntu on the Mac? [5 Updates]
> How to create a password-protected (encrypted) disk image [1 Update]
> I will go stark raving mad if VO Doesn't Stop with the (enter application 
> name here) busy garbage [7 Updates]
> setting up MacBook Pro with voiceover [1 Update]
>  Apple Keynote
> "Paul Hunt"  Sep 10 09:20AM -0500  
> 
> Hello everyone. I've been hearing that the new IPhone will be announced at
> 10:00 AM today pacific time. I want to hear this address live. I don't see a
> link yet. If anyone has been able to catch the live keynotes in the past,
> How can I be sure to access this address live?
>  
> 
>  
> Thanks so much.
>  
> 
>  
> Paul
>  
> 
> "Tommy Craig"  Sep 10 10:06AM -0500  
> 
> Hi Paul, 
> 
> I don't think it is beening streamed. Usually they have bloggers that post
> during the keynote and then Apple puts the video up a couple hours later. If
> you won't to check out the blog, you might try the mac observer website. 
> 
> Tommy
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Hunt
> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 9:20 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Apple Keynote
>  
>  
>  
> Hello everyone. I've been hearing that the new IPhone will be announced at
> 10:00 AM today pacific time. I want to hear this address live. I don't see a
> link yet. If anyone has been able to catch the live keynotes in the past,
> How can I be sure to access this address live?
>  
> 
>  
> Thanks so much.
>  
> 
>  
> Paul
>  
> 
>  
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> 
> Paul Hunt  Sep 10 10:23AM -0500  
> 
> What is the url?
>  
>  
> 
> Georgina Joyce  Sep 10 05:45PM +0100  
> 
> Hello,
>  
> This is not so. In June Apple streamed some of the developer comference. I've 
> read that those of us with an Apple device can receive it. However, it looks 
> like you need an RSS reader.
>  
> http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/504959/20130910/apple-iphone5s-iphone5c-launch-live-event-time.htm
>  
> Gena
> Georgina Joyce
> Applied Psychologist
> Training and Coaching.
> Because individuals of groups matter!
>  
>  
>  
> 
> "Tommy Craig"  Sep 10 02:19PM -0500  
> 
> Sorry Paul, 
> 
> I was leaving right after my last post and just now read your message. They
> did not stream the event and the mac observer didn't have their live blog. I
> ended up going to imore.com and watching their coverage. 
> 
> Apple now has some videos about the new products on their webpage but not
> the full keynote. That will probably come later. 
> 
> Tommy
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Hunt
> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 10:24 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Keynote
>  
>  
> What is the url?
>  
> On Sep 10, 2013, at 10:06 AM, "Tommy Craig"  wrote:
>  
>  
>  
> Hi Paul, 
> 
> I don't think it is beening streamed. Usually they have bloggers that post
> during the keynote and then Apple puts the video up a couple hours later. If
> you won't to check out the blog, you might try the mac observer website. 
> 
> Tommy
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Hunt
> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 9:20 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Apple Keynote
>  
>  
>  
> Hello everyone. Ive been hearing that the new IPhone will be announced at
> 10:00 AM today pacific time. I want to hear this address live. I dont see a
> link yet. If anyone has been able to catch the live keynotes in the past,
> How can I be sure to access this address live?
>  
>  
>  
> Thanks so much.
>  
>  
>  
> Paul
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
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iOS seven update

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hi Everyone!

 I just got finished updating my I pad mini  and now i am waiting for my I 
phone 4.s. to finish installing the I.O.S. 7 update. Have anyone had any 
difficulties with the installation of the software? It took over an hour and a 
half for me to update my I pad mini. I did not know if anyone was having the 
same difficulties as i was having with the installation process. 
thanks.
sincerely, chenelle

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Google question

[chenelle hancock]

Sent from my iPad

> Hello everyone at information hi my friend has a tablet that she just barked 
> and she wants to know can you download Bard Mobile using Google? Thank you so 
> much On 27 Sep 2013, at 2:13 pm, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:
> 
>   Today's Topic Summary
> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
> 
> Apple 2E Emulator: my impressions [1 Update]
> airport extreme hook up question [2 Updates]
> PORTABLE CHARGERS [2 Updates]
> gmail help? [1 Update]
> Battery Life on IOS 7 [1 Update]
>  Apple 2E Emulator: my impressions
> Teresa Cochran  Sep 27 01:59PM -0700  
> 
> I really am liking it. I briefly learned the apple 2e in college, then was 
> forced to switch to IBM, which wasn't accessible at the time. I especially 
> recognize the beep as the "disk" boots up. Very nice job, Darcy et al.
>  
> I'm paging through the Echo tutorial at the moment. I tried playing 
> Blackjack, but lost. :) This is going to be very amusing, I'm sure. Oh, the 
> Echo tutorial mentioned versaBraille tape. That definitely jolted me into the 
> past. :)
>  
> Teresa
>  
> 
>  airport extreme hook up question
> Chris Blouch  Sep 27 04:05PM -0400  
> 
> Years ago (1998?) I had been renting a wifi router box from my cable 
> provider for a while and then decided to keep the money to myself and 
> buy my own unit. I purposly purchased two separate boxes - the cable 
> modem and the wifi/router. Over the years I've upgraded my wifi a couple 
> times as the world moved through the alphabet of standards and speeds. 
> Most recently I swapped out my old Netgear 802.11G box for an Airport 
> extreme after an unpleasant attempt to use a D-Link DIR-628 802.11N. 
> Just last week my cable mode died after about 9 years of service so I 
> was able to replace that with a newer faster Motorola SurfBoard DOCSIS 
> 3.0 modem. In other words, this might be a good time to replace the 
> all-in-one with separate boxes for long term sanity.
>  
> As a side note, my first owned modem met an early demise after my (then) 
> girlfriend and I returned from a weekend trip to discover a colony of 
> ants had moved into it. There were ants everywhere moving eggs and such 
> into their new warm comfy wifi hotel. We only noticed because the wifi 
> wasn't working. The whole thing went into a trash bag.
>  
> CB
>  
> On 9/27/13 9:10 AM, Cait and Maggie wrote:
>  
> -- 
> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>  
> 
> Kawal Gucukoglu  Sep 27 09:54PM +0100  
> 
> My word, Ants in a Wifi router. What next!
>  
> 
>  PORTABLE CHARGERS
> "wayne17a"  Sep 27 04:31PM -0400  
> 
> Hello Kawal thanks I will read it later the quick look I had
> makes it sound quite good thanks in advance 
>  
> 
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
> Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 11:17 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: PORTABLE CHARGERS
>  
> 
>  
> I do have this charger and have sent you a link. I hope it works.
>  
> 
>  
> Kawal.
>  
>  
> On 27 Sep 2013, at 04:06 PM, wayne17a  wrote:
>  
> Hello Kawal do you have this charger and if yes could you
> tell me more or have you the direct link for it thanks in advance
>  
> 
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
> Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 4:37 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: PORTABLE CHARGERS
>  
> 
>  
> How about mycharge Peak power bank from Amazon.com this charger talks and
> tells you what percentage it is, whether the battery is full or not, and
> switches off straight away when you pull out the device.
>  
> 
>  
> Kawal. 
>  
>  
> On 27 Sep 2013, at 03:20 AM, wayne17a  wrote:
>  
> Hello ,list can somebody please give me some advice on a good portable
> charger, for my devices such as a victor stream,a iphone ,and a ipad thanks
> in advance 
>  
> Wayne c
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facebook question:

[Chenelle Hancock]

 itself after quit with iPhone plugged in.
> eric oyen  Sep 27 09:58PM -0700  
> 
> I started having this issue after the latest update of iTunes on my macbook. 
> I am running Lion (and it is not possible to upgrade to mountain lion on this 
> machine, so we won't go there). As soon as I plug in the iPhone on the USB 
> port, I get asked if I want to update to iOS 7. I click the later button and 
> check the Don't ask again box. Suddenly, now iTunes wants to restart after I 
> quit and it keeps restarting itself every time I quit the application. Does 
> anyone happen to have an idea what is going on here? The only way I can get 
> it to stop this behavior is to unplug the iPhone.
>  
> any help would certainly be appreciated.
>  
> -eric
>  
> 
>  404 error messages on blindcooltech.com
> Jessica Moss  Sep 27 09:56PM -0400  
> 
> I have no idea why this is happening, but on every podcast I've clicked on, 
> which has been about 5 of them, I've gotten some kind of a 404 error message, 
> which of course, takes me back to the original url, and it's really starting 
> to annoy me, considering the fact that I'd really like to hear these. Has 
> anyone else been having this issue?
>  
> 
> Lisette Wesseling  Sep 28 02:57PM +1200  
> 
> I understand the blindcooltech site is no longer being maintained. 
>  
> Lisette
>  
>  
> 
>  Text documents on Mac
> Laura ann Grymes  Sep 27 07:26PM -0500  
> 
> Docuscan plus works on the mac its by serotek and can work with a scanner.
> Laura Ann
>  
>  
> 
>  Reading Text Documents
> Laura ann Grymes  Sep 27 07:23PM -0500  
> 
> I totally agree.
>  
> The professor needs to make it accessible as they assign it not make you jump 
> through extra hoops to read what your assigned.
> Laura Ann
>  
>  
> 
>  Google question
> chenelle hancock  Sep 27 03:07PM -0700  
> 
> Sent from my iPad
>  
>  
> 
>  Taking Apps out of the App Switcher question for my sighted husband
> Desi Noller  Sep 27 02:49PM -0700  
> 
> Hi Alex,
>  
> Thanks so much! This really helps us out a lot, and I knew someone here would 
> know!
>  
> Desi
>  
>  
>  
>  
> 
>  PORTABLE CHARGERS
> Jessica Moss  Sep 27 05:44PM -0400  
> 
> Not sure if you've ever used one of these, but what's the difference between 
> the one you mentioned and the heavy-duty version of the newTrent version?
> I think that's the version I have, but not 100% sure, sense it was given to 
> me as a Christmas gift and I've never seen either of them, but it's a decent 
> size, just slightly smaller than a passport drive, and has a really long 
> battery life, but unfortunately I'm not sure of the exact make and model of 
> it so can't find the specs on it to compare them.
> I did a search for it and like the fact that it has the fold-out prongs, 
> conpared to the New Trent model, which has a wall charger that you constantly 
> have to keep up with, and unlike the one posted here, doesn't have the voice 
> notifications, so just have to guess if the unit itself is on or off 
> according to the alert sounds your phone makes, and same with whether or not 
> the thing is fully charged, which can be equally frustrating, considering the 
> fact that I have devices that don't make noise when they're first plugged 
> in/unplugged.
> On Sep 27, 2013, at 11:08 AM, wayne17a wrote:
>  
>  
> 
>  Looking for a voiceover friendly soundboard
> Chris Blouch  Sep 27 05:25PM -0400  
> 
> Dunno if it's accessible but SoundBoard sounds like what you want:
>  
> http://www.ambrosiasw.com/utilities/soundboard-mac/
>  
> CB
>  
> On 9/27/13 2:16 PM, Mike wrote:
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I pad Mini qestion:

[chenelle hancock]

Hi all,

I wanted to know if  when you set up your i pad mini?  Does the  movie feature 
suppose  to work instantainiously  like it does on  your i phone? Thanks  a lot 
for your help it's most greatly appreciated. sincerely, chenelle.

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zoometext for the mack:

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hello all,

 I just  recently spoken to someone at  ai squared technology inc and they 
explained to me that their  most recent  vergin of zoome text for the mack. Is  
not with speech and the cost is around 99 u.s. dollars and that is a one time 
payment too. as long as the person has a valid  zoometext  registration number 
to use with it. i thought that i would share this bit of information with all 
of you
 have a nice day all.
sincerely, chenelle

Sent from my iPhone

On 04/02/2013, at 3:44 PM, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:

>   Today's Topic Summary
> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
> 
> How to Jailbreak iPhone 5, iPhone 4S, iPhone 4, iPhone 3GS Using evasi0n [iOS 
> 6.1 - iOS 6] [4 Updates]
> Boot camp Linux [1 Update]
> Uncut demonstration of jailbreak iOS six using voice over [1 Update]
> strange happenings in apple mail [3 Updates]
> password prompt for no reason [2 Updates]
> o. t.: Microsoft Office for Mac! Important: read and leave comments! [6 
> Updates]
> Google books [3 Updates]
> QuickTime plugging Apple Mail problem. [1 Update]
> word count for mac? [2 Updates]
> anyone store the movies in their iTunes library on a portable hard drive? [1 
> Update]
> Adding Album Art in iTunes [1 Update]
>  How to Jailbreak iPhone 5, iPhone 4S, iPhone 4, iPhone 3GS Using evasi0n 
> [iOS 6.1 - iOS 6]
> "Raul A. Gallegos"  Feb 04 12:32PM -0600  
> 
> Hello everyone. I am just passing this along. Unfortunately I am out and 
> about today on my day job and so am unable to jailbreak my iPhone.
>  
> http://www.iphonehacks.com/2013/02/how-to-jailbreak-iphone-using-evasi0n-ios-6-1-ios-6.html#.UQ_90Il5mc0
>  
> 
> Ray Foret Jr  Feb 04 12:56PM -0600  
> 
> I say, ain't this illegal? Why would anyone want to do this to an Iphone 5 
> anyhow?
>  
>  
> Sent from my mac
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
>  
>  
> 
> Scott Rumery  Feb 04 03:33PM -0500  
> 
> No it is not illegal. A person might want to Jailbreak their iPhone to take 
> advantage of some cool apps that Apple doesn't allow in their app store.
>  
> 
> Michael Babcock  Feb 04 01:43PM -0700  
> 
> It is not illegal to jailbreak your device, there was a ruling in 2010 that 
> the Federal Communications Commission deemed it to not to be inappropriate to 
> jailbreak your device. However, last Saturday, started another thing that the 
> Federal Communications Commission began in 2010. This is, it is illegal to 
> unlock your device.
> Jailbreaking your device provide you rude access to the device, and allows 
> you to make any modifications to the device that you would like. Whereas, 
> unlocking a device will allow you to utilize of that device that was designed 
> for a specific carrier, on another carrier's network. The FCC no longer wants 
> individuals to purchase phones at discounted prices, and then move them to 
> better networks.
> You can hear a demonstration of the jailbreaking process on my blog below.
> In my opinion, this is one of the easiest process is once you get it going, 
> that there has been for jail braking iOS
> Michael
>  
> http://empoweringtheblind.com
> Empowering the blind, one step at a time.
>  
>  
>  
> 
>  Boot camp Linux
> Chris Blouch  Feb 04 03:35PM -0500  
> 
> Another question is how Linux-specific you're going to get since OSX is 
> Unix underneath. So shell scripts, file permissions and all that jazz 
> can be done there the same as any other unix box.
>  
> CB
>  
> On 1/21/13 7:14 PM, Bejarano, Rafael P. wrote:
>  
> -- 
> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>  
> 
>  Uncut demonstration of jailbreak iOS six using voice over
> Michael Babcock  Feb 04 01:26PM -0700  
> 
> For those of your curious about the jailbreak process, I created a brief 
> uncut audio file of me actually jailbreaking my iPhone 4S. This process is 
> very simple, and you can hear this pod cast here:
> http://empoweringtheblind.com/blog/uncut-demonstration-of-jailbreak-ios-six-using-voice-over/?id=workwithmike
> Please use the comment field on the website to provide me with any of your 
> comments. You can utilize sites such as Google, Facebook, LinkedIn, and 
> Twitter so you don't have to create an account on the site to comment.
> Obviously, I would appreciate it if you shared this link with any other 
> friend you may have.
> Michael
>  
> 
>  strange happenings in apple mail
> Jed Barton  Feb 04 02:16PM -0500  
> 
> Hey guys,
> Whenever i am outside of apple mail it's telling me that i am getting 
> messages, it starts reading who it is from, etc.
> I'll be in another window, and it'll start saying who it is from. Should this 
> happen?
>  
> 
> Daniel C  Feb 04 02:54PM -0500  
> 
> Yes, it's because you have AppleMail opened, it's just notifications in case 
> you needed to say, wait for an important message.
>  
> 
> Alex Hall  Feb 04 02:59PM -0500  
> 
> You can go to system preferences, then notification center, and disable mail. 
> Right now, it is popping up a

How to transfer songs from dropbox app on your iPhone to your iTunes?

[Chenelle Hancock]

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 5, 2015, at 4:17 PM, hello everyone,
> Issue now it's been a while since I toasted the question out here.
> However, I wanted to know how do you transfer songs from your dropbox to your 
> iTunes? Using voice over.
> Thank you so much and have a great day.macvisionar...@googlegroups.com wrote:
> 
> 
> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com   Google Groups   
>
> Topic digest 
> View all topics
> VO pronouncing Spanish Accent marks strangely - 1 Update
> The switch from Microsoft to Apple - 3 Updates
> Any Way Around The Add Quick Event in the Calendar Application? - 1 Update
> Aspects of VoiceOver not working - Read All, Read down, VOJ and Scroll - 2 
> Updates
> possible new bug - 4 Updates
> Standard view, any tips? - 1 Update
> VO pronouncing Spanish Accent marks strangely 
> Alwine Hardus : Jan 05 10:08PM +0100 
> 
> Hai,
> It is because in the pdf file vo places the accent begind the caracter, just 
> if it is another caracter. I had the same problem and the same solution. 
>  
> Alwine
> Back to top
> The switch from Microsoft to Apple 
> Shawn Krasniuk : Jan 05 01:39PM -0600 
> 
> Me neither. I still like some voices that you can't get on the Mac like Ivona 
> and Neospeech, particularly James. Though Ivona keeps promising that they are 
> working on bringing their voices to the Mac, I'll believe it when I see it. I 
> think that all of us who like their voices should keep bothering them to make 
> their voices for Mac like I have for the past couple of years. Emails, 
> tweets, whatever. It has to be done if we want our voices heard.
>  
> Shawn
> Sent From My White MacBook
>  
> Faisal ali : Jan 05 11:55AM -0800 
> 
> I will also use both systems as I do a lot of productivity stuff on the 
> windows side. Although this area within OS X is improving, it is still not at 
> the level of office on the PC.
> Eileen Misrahi : Jan 05 01:05PM -0800 
> 
> I agree with you. The only reason I open the Windows side is for the Office 
> suites. I have tried the iWorks suite for the Mac, but it doesn't offer me 
> the vast options in Word to mark up a document. JMO.
>  
> Eileen
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
> Back to top
> Any Way Around The Add Quick Event in the Calendar Application? 
> William Windels : Jan 05 09:47PM +0100 
> 
> Hi,
> thx for the workaround about the .-symbol in the search field.
> However idd, this is a workaround.
>  
> That this feature isn't present you said, seems strange to me.
> In ios, you can press teh list button in day-view and there you can see all 
> future events, also recurring events are included and past events aren't 
> shown.
>  
> If this is idd right, it seems normal to me that this seame functionallity 
> should be available on osx and ios.
> Any comments are very welcome.
>  
> kind regards,
> William windels
> Mvg
> william Windels
>  
> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone
>  
> Back to top
> Aspects of VoiceOver not working - Read All, Read down, VOJ and Scroll 
> April : Jan 05 10:05AM -0800 
> 
> I am sorry. I'd email. However, the email address is truncated.  I have never 
> been able to get those commands to work.
> Shawn Krasniuk : Jan 05 02:05PM -0600 
> 
> Suit yourself. Although You won't get any help if you won't let us help you 
> one on one. We're just as confused as you are but unless you add us on Skype 
> or at least call us on FaceTime, we're as stuck as you are.
>  
> Shawn
> Sent From My White MacBook
>  
> Back to top
> possible new bug   
> Aleeha Dudley : Jan 05 01:06PM -0500 
> 
> Yes, my cursors are following one another. The funny thing is, it works as it 
> should in other applications. TextEdit, for example.
>  
> Aleeha Dudley and seeing eye dog Dallas 
> Vice President, Ohio Association of blind students
> blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com
> "The wind of Heaven is that which blows between a horse's ears." Arabian 
> proverb 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
> Faisal ali : Jan 05 11:23AM -0800 
> 
> I as well have faced this issue even with the trackpad turned off. I’m 
> convinced that messages has something to do with it as I have not encountered 
> it again once I have it not load.
> Tim Kilburn : Jan 05 12:40PM -0700 
> 
> Hi,
>  
> In Messages, I was able to duplicate your issue, but not in Mail. It 
> certainly was frustrating how the keyboard seemed to be disabled although VO 
> functions on the keyboard did appear to work normally. Here’s some info and 
> easier workaround for you.
>  
> • If I was Interacting with the text area when typing my message, the problem 
> didn’t occur.
> • If I was just entering text without the Interaction, then the keyboard 
> became more or less useless except for VO navigation. Rather odd, but I 
> haven’t figured out why one part would work and another wouldn’t, other than 
> my possible explanation below.
> • Going into other apps like Terminal still would not allow keyboard use and 
> things like cmd-q to Quit were unresponsive.
> • to

Braille translation settings on iOS devices?

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hello everyone,
This is Chenelle, I wanted to know when you're using a refreshable braille 
display on I was device such as: iPhone, iPod touch, iPad mini or iPad?
Can you download bro translation programs for other languages suchS French, 
Spanish, Chinese, Japanese, Arabic or Russian? Reason for my asking for this 
question is because, I am learning Russian and I want to learn Russian braille 
so I can read or write Russian. There are no resources in the US for which I 
can access the Russian Cyrillic alphabet. I do not own and A Windows computer. 
I only have a Mac. Mike took Sperry program with my Romeo embosser will not 
work with my Mac. Furthermore, the only way I would be able to access materials 
and Russian Brio is to write to the library for the blind in Moscow Russia. 
However, I don't know enough Russian in order to write them in their own 
language. Is there anyone out there thatlives outside of the US that could help 
me with this problem?
Thank you so much for your time I most greatly appreciate it.
Sincerely, Chenelle

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 7, 2015, at 3:31 PM, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:
> 
> 
> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com   Google Groups  
> Topic digest 
> View all topics
> iTunes 12 and downloads in iTunes match. - 3 Updates
> messages app revisited - 1 Update
> Audio Book Builder transferring books - 5 Updates
> how to add events from emails into calendar - 4 Updates
> can't add Google account to messenbger - 3 Updates
> remapping the capslock for linux - 1 Update
> Braille and Spanish - 2 Updates
> Mysterious - 2 Updates
> using Google chat? - 3 Updates
> Yosemite and a Dead Finder / Partitian an Active Drive - 1 Update
> iTunes 12 and downloads in iTunes match. 
> Gabriele Battaglia : Jan 07 09:08PM +0100 
> 
> Hi all.
> I’m a subscriber of an iTunes match account. Before I was able to replace my 
> old mp3 file with a copy of them downloaded from the could, which is at 256 
> KBPS.
>  
> Now, on the iTunes 12 last release, the download option is no longer 
> available within the context menu.
> How Can I do?
>  
> Any suggestion will be very appreciated.
> Gabriel.
> —
> Namasté!
> Sent from my iMac27. (Libero)
> Tim Kilburn : Jan 07 01:17PM -0700 
> 
> Hi,
>  
> You must first delete the copy of the mp3 on your local machine. Then, as 
> long as you didn’t tell iTunes to remove it from the Cloud, it will be 
> available for download the same as in previous versions of iTunes. Also, you 
> must have the “Show iTunes in the Cloud Purchases” box checked in the iTunes 
> Preferences under the Store pane.
>  
> Best.
>  
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>  
> Gabriele Battaglia : Jan 07 09:26PM +0100 
> 
> Thanks Tim.
> Precious as usual.
> Gabriel.
> Back to top
> messages app revisited   
> Faisal ali : Jan 07 12:25PM -0800 
> 
> Hi,
> I’ve got Facebook chat set up on my messages app under jabber. Is it possible 
> to set it up by forgoing jabber? the set up process was pretty complicated as 
> I recall and not exactly the most straight forward thing on the mac. also, I 
> understand that Adium can handle window live messenger but I’m wondering if 
> this could also be set up in messages? And finally, is it possible to have 
> notifications set up when new contacts go online?
> I want to use this app more regularly and cut out other apps like Adium.
> Thanks
> Back to top
> Audio Book Builder transferring books 
> Sarai Bucciarelli : Jan 07 09:09AM -0600 
> 
> Hi:
> They didn’t appear in the music bookshlef, even when I tried to import them t 
> o music by going to file add to library.
> Sarai Bucciarelli : Jan 07 10:26AM -0600 
> 
> Hello:
> I’m still not having any luck. Yes, my book shows up in itunes 12 under audio 
> books, but it will not sync to my phone. Here is what I do. I have iTunes 12, 
> and an iPhone 5s.
> I have manually manage content checked.
> I connect the cable to my Mac, and iPhone. I open iTunes. I navigate past the 
> music radio button, and go to the more pop up. I choose audio books, and 
> press vo space. I vo right arrow over to the my audio books and make sure it 
> says selected. I vo right arrow again until I hear book grid no selection. I 
> interact wit the grid and hear my audio book title: it says 1 of 1. There is 
> no check box here. I make sure VO says selected though. I vo right arrow past 
> the iPhone pop up button until I hear scroll area. I interact with that 
> scroll area. I go to the end, stop interacting, go across until I hear the 
> sync button. I vo space on sync. Itunes dings, I eject phone, and I have no 
> book on phone.
> What am I doing wrong? 
> Tim Kilburn : Jan 07 09:55AM -0700 
> 
> Hi,
>  
> You are selecting the incorrect Audio Books item. When your iPhone is 
> selected, navigate right once past the Scroll area to the Playlists table. 
> Interact with it and move down to select Audio Books there then stop 
> interacting with the table. Navigate left to the Scro

Re: Digest for macvisionaries@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 11 topics

[Chenelle Hancock]

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 27, 2015, at 11:17 AM, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:
> 
> 
> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com   Google Groups   
>
> Topic digest 
> View all topics
> Bypass Trash - 6 Updates
> Some more Questions - 4 Updates
> Another Shot at Yosemite: iBooks Aversion - 2 Updates
> Turbotax application - 4 Updates
> iTunes folders - 2 Updates
> boot camp drivers - 1 Update
> Audio Hijack Pro & version 3 - 2 Updates
> Converting M3Us to MP3s - 1 Update
> question about facebook on skype - 1 Update
> A question about setting up hotkeys.; Keyboard Maestro - 1 Update
> Where are my books in ibooks actually located? - 1 Update
> Bypass Trash   
> The Believer : Jan 26 10:27PM -0800 
> 
> Unlike Windows, there does not seem to be a way to permanently 
> delete a file. It goes to Trash then you Empty Trash. Its a good safety 
> measure but there are times its an unnecessary extra step.
>  
> Are either of these apps accessible? Trash X and Trash Without. Or 
> are there other apps that are better?
>  
> From The Believer. . .
> . . . what if it were true?
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Erik Heil : Jan 27 09:06AM -0500 
> 
> Hello,
> This problem is solved simply. If go into the terminal, and use the "rm"
> command in order to delete your files, they are not moved to the ~.trash
> directory. Unfortunately, their doesn't seem to be a way to change this
> behavior from within the GUI, but perhaps other users will correct me. Hope
> this helps.
>  
> On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 1:27 AM, The Believer 
> wrote:
>  
> John Panarese : Jan 27 09:56AM -0500 
> 
> I believe if you use command-shift-backspace, that bypasses the Trash and 
> purges the file. At least, prior to Mavericks, it worked. I always send to 
> the Trash first, but I believe you still can bypass this.
>  
>  
> Take Care
>  
> John D. Panarese
> Director
> Mac for the Blind
> Tel, (631) 724-4479
> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>  
> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX 10.7 LION and 10.8 Mountain 
> Lion
>  
> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>  
> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Tim Kilburn : Jan 27 08:36AM -0700 
> 
> Hi,
>  
> The cmd-shift-delete does not do that. You can have the GUI ignore the “Are 
> You Sure” dialog when emptying the trash by using cmd-option-shift-delete 
> reducing one step along the way. In my opinion, opening Terminal and using 
> the “rm” command also does not actually make it any faster as the poster is 
> hoping. It would take more keystrokes to change to the Terminal app, enter 
> the “rm” command followed by the file path, than a quick cmd-delete to put 
> the item in the Trash, then a cmd-option-shift-delete to empty it. I recall a 
> thread a number of years back somewhere on the Net where people were 
> discussing the same sort of thing. Some folks think it’s better the Windows 
> way, others prefer the safety of the Apple way, it’s all a matter of opinion, 
> I guess.
>  
> Later...
>  
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>  
> Marshall Scott : Jan 27 07:15AM -0700 
> 
> Hi,
> I believe you can set up the Empty Trash function to perform a secure erase 
> where the deleted data is overwritten.  You pay a time penalty to do this but 
> it will be more secure.
> Marshall
>  
> John Panarese : Jan 27 11:08AM -0500 
> 
> Right. I forgot about the option key. I personally think it's better to have 
> the safety mechanism of going to the Trash first. I have accidentally deleted 
> my share of items without realizing it until later so the command-z to undo 
> the command wasn't available at that point.
>  
>  
> Take Care
>  
> John D. Panarese
> Director
> Mac for the Blind
> Tel, (631) 724-4479
> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>  
> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX 10.7 LION and 10.8 Mountain 
> Lion
>  
> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>  
> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Back to top
> Some more Questions   
> Erik Heil : Jan 27 05:59AM -0800 
> 
> Hello again, 
> FFirst of all, thanks for all the responses to my other questions. Really 
> helped a lot 
> I was thinking of trying to get a full-blown GNOME desktop environment 
> running on this machine, as I am familiar with that environment. Doing some 
> research, I can see that their is an open source version of the Xorg X11 
> Window system that I can install. Ideally, I would love the greatest and 
> latest stuff viable from the GNOME Project which at present, is Gnome 
> 3.4.X. However, I think we have some problems. If I'm wrong in these 
> assumptions, feel free to correct me where necessary. If memory serves, 
> GNOME 3.x has some dependencies on systems, which is Linux-specific. That 
> is, their is at present, no BSD-compatible system implementation. I don't 
> believe that system needs to be running, 

Mack question:

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hello everyone,

it's been a while since i have posted  anything on the list. I wanted to know 
if ones  computer would no longer be covered  due to its three year experation 
date  coming up in mid october. would you just  purchase another mack book or 
would you just continue using the one that you hcurrently have in spite of it 
no longer having any coverage on it?
thanks so much for your help and time. it is  greatly appreciate it.
sincerely, chenelle.

Sent from my iPhone

On 07/04/2013, at 5:45 PM, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:

>   Today's Topic Summary
> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
> 
> Serious question about Mac vs. Windows [3 Updates]
> pairing a Braille EDge 40 with an Ipod 4th gen [1 Update]
> Selling my IPhone 4S [1 Update]
> Jumping in with using a Mac [5 Updates]
> VM Fusion and Windows 7 [1 Update]
> Porting software written in C-sharp two the mac [1 Update]
> Strange FTP problem [1 Update]
>  Serious question about Mac vs. Windows
> Jamie Pauls  Apr 07 01:07PM -0500  
> 
> I find VoiceOver to be a very robust screen reader. I think you will fine 
> that the only accessibility issues you have will be with specific 
> applications. About the only area where there seems to be a consensus is in 
> office productivity. Microsoft office and windows screen readers continue to 
> have a definite edge there. I am hopeful that this will not always be the 
> case. VoiceOver is quite powerful as a screen reader and serves its operating 
> system quite adequately, in my opinion. 
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
>  
> 
> Eugenia Firth  Apr 07 04:12PM -0500  
> 
> Hi Shannon and Kelly
> In my opinion, voiceover is a serious screen reader which is a serious 
> contender with window was in Jaws. Having said that, I think that it's not 
> voiceover that's limited, it's the applications which your work with it or 
> don't, depending on whether of the developer Roos contacted Apple for the 
> information they needed to make it work. This also assumes that they thought 
> of us in the first place. There are some blind people these days that have 
> really no useful windows and Leslie want it. iPhone one could do without it 
> forever.
> Regards,
> GG
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
>  
> 
> Maria & Joe Chapman  Apr 08 07:45AM +1000  
> 
> HI. Yes, I was going to point out how well the mac and Ios devices integrate 
> with the mac. Not to mention in my oppinion itunes and vo work much better 
> than itunes and jaws or nvda. I did try to use nvda full time just before I 
> switched but the tts didn't sound right not when using sapi. I also think as 
> time goes on there will be more and more accessible programmes for the mac. 
> Blessings! Maria Joe and loving guide Karly.
> Email/ I Message: &fb bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
> twitter: bubbygirl 
> skype: bubbygirl1972
>  
> bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> 
>  pairing a Braille EDge 40 with an Ipod 4th gen
> Mark Baxter  Apr 07 02:32PM -0700  
> 
> Can this be done? whenever he goes t accessibility/voiceover/braille, it only 
> sees a "braille edge 0102," and cannot successfully pair. Any ideas?
>  
>  
> • Mark BurningHawk Baxter
> • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969
> • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com
> • My home page:
> • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
>  
> 
>  Selling my IPhone 4S
> "Chris Gilland"  Apr 07 04:28PM -0400  
> 
> I have an IPhone 4S black 16GB locked to the AT&T carrier, non-jailbroken, 
> and never once has been, which was bought in February of 2011. This hone is 
> in 100% tip-top mint condition, not a single scratch or crack on it. It 
> never even once has ever been dropped. It is running the latest I O S 6.1.3. 
> I have all the cables, as well as the electrical receptacle charging cube, 
> and even still have the original earbuds. Though I love this phone, I have 
> upgraded last January to an IPhone 5 black 64GB, so I no longer am in the 
> need for this phone. I'm asking $200.00. Please note as a few people have 
> asked me this already, so I want to make this very clear from the get-go. 
> No, I will not accept multiple installment payments. I must receive the 
> payment in full all at once, and only will ship to the states, sorry 
> Canadian residents. The $200 does include shipping. If you are an IPhone 
> Newby, I even can have it set when you get it for Voiceover already to be 
> enabled, although it's easy enough to do yourself. I know this list is for 
> Mac users, however, upon request, I will even for an additional dollar, 
> bringing your total to $201.00, just to cover the cost of the blank media, 
> burn you a copy of the ITunes installer for windows and will include the 
> disc in a neatly braille labeled sleeve. Please note that this IPhone is 
> locked, and only will work on the AT&T network. It will not work on Verizon, 
> Sprint, or any of the like.
>  
> Please contact me off list if interested. I accept check, money order, or 
> preferably PayPal.
>  
> Please

Re: Digest for macvisionaries@googlegroups.com - 25 Messages in 17 Topics

[Chenelle Hancock]

> 
> Hi Donna

I was able to get rehab to purchase a mack over 3, years ago. I then told them 
that i wanted to learn another new computer system and that i wanted to work 
for apple. Therefore, they went ahead and it chased me a 15 inch mack book pro 
2010.
Sincerely Chenelle

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Re: Digest for macvisionaries@googlegroups.com - 25 Messages in 9 Topics

[Chenelle Hancock]

; 
>  
> 
>  some wordpress help please
> Maxwell Ivey  Apr 09 09:48PM -0500  
> 
> Hello; I have a question about wordpress, but its not a mac accessibility 
> question. I have received a request to post my first banner ad on my 
> wordpress built website. So, now i need to know the best and easiest way to 
> add rotating banners to my website. I have read about add rotate and another 
> plug in called max banner ads, but i was wanting to know what you use. I'm 
> hoping there are some website owners on here who use wordpress and who have 
> banner ads. I'm hoping this could be a first for me and maybe lead to more 
> regular income to smooth out the rough spots in my income between equipment 
> sales commissions. thanks in advance for any help. take care, Max
>  
> 
>  keyboard focus with vmware 5/win8
> anouk radix  Apr 10 02:59AM +0200  
> 
> Hello everyone,
> I am impressed with the narrator version that microsoft put into windows 
> 8. I could install it quickly thanks to vmware and was then able to go 
> right ahead and get nvda with just the narrator.
> So nvda works fine but i have at time sproblems knowing if i am in 
> windows or in vmware. I have had to forcibly shut the app down once 
> already because my keypresses were not put through to windows (possibly 
> because i was not in there) even though i had it at full screen.
> What ar eyour experiences with this and is there a way to keep your 
> focus consistently within windows with the newer fusion versions (i mean 
> at times you will have to access fusion to put through usb devices or 
> cmd-tab to other mac apps and then turn on vo again, it would be nice if 
> there was a consisten tway to make sure that if you return to vmware you 
> have keyboard focus in windows.
> Thanks in advance for any tips or information,
> Greetings, Anouk,
>  
> 
>  Digest for macvisionaries@googlegroups.com - 25 Messages in 17 Topics
> Chenelle Hancock  Apr 09 06:05PM -0400  
> 
> 
> > Hi Donna
>  
> I was able to get rehab to purchase a mack over 3, years ago. I then told 
> them that i wanted to learn another new computer system and that i wanted to 
> work for apple. Therefore, they went ahead and it chased me a 15 inch mack 
> book pro 2010.
> Sincerely Chenelle
>  
> 
>  Making a document accessible to seniors who don't use a computer?
> Maurice Mines  Apr 09 02:14PM -0700  
> 
> Good afternoon, I have an interesting accessibility problem. I have a 
> document that reads very well in TextEdit. But the document that I am being 
> easily on a computer, has to be converted into an audio form format? So my 
> question to the group is what he is the best way to achieve that? I have two 
> audio production software packages,The first one, is Amadeus Pro and the 
> second is audio hijack Pro. So other any good suggestions for making a 
> document that reads very well in TextEdit, into an audio form that a senior 
> could listen to this document on the end in a less player.? I certainly 
> intend to distribute the document to computer users in its current Microsoft 
> word format. But I know this lead to, or three seniors who don't know how to 
> use a computer, and don't want to learn how to use a computer will definitely 
> feel left out of this information. Certainly feel free to suggest possible 
> solutions to this problem. Sincerely Maurice. PS, please note that I'm using 
> Dragon dictate for the Mac to dictate the text of this email. So it if it 
> doesn't make sense completely to you please email me privately and let me 
> know?
>  
> 
> erik burggraaf  Apr 09 05:23PM -0400  
> 
> Why don't you just highlight all the text, press control option shift M, and 
> choose add to ITunes as a spoken track? Then you can just burn the resultant 
> audio to a CD.
>  
> Best,
>  
> Erik Burggraaf
> Follow my series of articles about setting up a small business through the 
> ontario disability support program at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/blog
> Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
> or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
>  
>  
> 
> Chris Blouch  Apr 09 05:28PM -0400  
> 
> If you uses TextEdit and convert the document to plain text does it read 
> reasonably well? If so then you can use terminal to generate an AIFF 
> file of the audio. So if I save the document as important_stuff.txt then 
> in terminal I would do
>  
> say < important_stuff.txt -o important_stuff.aiff
>  
> and you should end up with an aiff file which you can then convert to 
> mp3 or whatever. Speech rates are default for your system but if you 
> check the email archive I previously note how you can embed directives 
> in the text t

Re: Digest for macvisionaries@googlegroups.com - 25 Messages in 8 Topics

[Chenelle Hancock]

How much does the new terabyte hi Drive cost to click into your MacBook Pro?

Sent from my iPhone

On 20/04/2013, at 11:13 PM, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:

>   Today's Topic Summary
> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
> 
> How is VO in Logic with step time? [1 Update]
> anti virus for my new mac [2 Updates]
> silver dollar app question. [1 Update]
> Help with VMWare Fusion [3 Updates]
> flack conversion? [2 Updates]
> How to find ideal screen resolution (vmware) [1 Update]
> Skype [1 Update]
> Regarding ZCaptcha [14 Updates]
>  How is VO in Logic with step time?
> Tom Frank  Apr 20 11:06PM -0400  
> 
> Does Logic's step time entry work well with Voice Over? I want to write down 
> my compositions, but, since moving completely away from Windows, I haven't 
> found any music notation software that works with the Mac. 
> Tom Frank
> vermonttom@gmail.c
>  
> 
>  anti virus for my new mac
> Katey Glass  Apr 20 10:14PM -0400  
> 
> Hello All,
>  
> I'm new here & new to mac, but have been working my way through David 
> Woodbridge & Mike (from how to be blind) Podcast series, both are excellent 
> BTW. 
>  
> Anyway, I was wanting to know which antivirus program you use? Do you use 
> Avast? I saw that was recommended in a magazine I saw for getting started 
> with the mac. I'd like to be protected before I start downloading things from 
> the net, like Skype. 
>  
> I'm slowly getting there. Last week I think I was nearly successful at 
> downloading silverlight to fill out some forms for my doctor, I was able to 
> click on the download now icon, but I don't know what to do next. I somehow 
> found that I'd tried to download it 3 times, but since there was a cancel 
> option I did that and just had them help me when I got to the doctor's. So, 
> that leads me to my next question, when downloading something from the net, 
> how do we access it? I think silverlight is some sort of plug in and not 
> something that I'm likely to need again but I know I want skype and some 
> antivirus. so, I've guessed that there is a different process from 
> downloading things from the App Store as I did the type2phone successfully 
> and going through Safari to download things. 
>  
> Thanks in advance. 
>  
> Katey 
>  
> Sent from my iPad
>  
> 
> Ray Foret Jr  Apr 20 09:26PM -0500  
> 
> I'd go for ClamxaV. Here's another tip. Download it directly from the 
> developer's site and not from the app store. Why? The app store version does 
> not come with Clam Century which activly monitors all your folders once 
> you've set it up that way. Easy to understand and fully accessible.
>  
>  
> Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in!
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
>  
>  
> 
>  silver dollar app question.
> Jessica Moss  Apr 20 10:04PM -0400  
> 
> I found a supposed Silver Dollar app for the IPhone through the Via app, that 
> was free, but when I clicked the "download app," option, it did nothing, and 
> the Applevis reviews showed it only as a Mac app, which I found strange. Does 
> anyone know anything about this?
> I find this really strange that I found this as a free IPhone app, but 
> nothing seems to be available, and I was really excited about trying it out 
> before I purchased the Mac version.
>  
> 
>  Help with VMWare Fusion
> Yolanda Thompson  Apr 20 06:03PM -0600  
> 
> Ok, I got it installed--vmware that is--and I cannot figure out how to
> launch the
> window below the toolbar that brings me into windows. Then, when I
> hit alt-f4 in
> the windows it throws me out to the mac screen and I cannot get back.
> And, how on earth dos everyone find out the keystrokes for mac apps? I have 
> not
> had luck.
> HELP! LOL
>  
> 
> Kliphton A M  Apr 20 07:10PM -0500  
> 
> I could help you better by skype or over the phone, what works better for 
> you? My info is in my signature.
> 
> Kliphton Senior
> (Email&iMessage) kliph...@gmail.com
> (Twitter&Skype) kliphton72
> (Personal blog-read at your own risk!) http://kliphskorner.wordpress.com
> (Life Journal) kliphton.wordpress.com
> http://facebook.com/kliphandsharrie
>  
>  
> 
> "Phil Halton"  Apr 20 09:54PM -0400  
> 
> I was hoping you'd answer onlist as I have long wanted to have those same 
> questions answered. that is, after all, what the list is for.
>  
> - Original Message - 
> From: Kliphton A M 
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 8:10 PM
> Subject: Re: Help with VMWare Fusion
>  
>  
> I could help you better by skype or over the phone, what works better for 
> you? My info is in my signature.
>  
>  
> Kliphton Senior
> (Email&iMessage) kliph...@gmail.com
> (Twitter&Skype) kliphton72
> (Personal blog-read at your own risk!) http://kliphskorner.wordpress.com
> (Life Journal) kliphton.wordpress.com
> http://facebook.com/kliphandsharrie
>  
>  
> On Apr 20, 2013, at 7:03 PM

voices for the mack?

[Chenelle Hancock]

hi all,
i wanted to know if there were any australian  voices for the mack that one 
could purchase?
 thanks for your help.
sincerely, chenelle

Sent from my iPhone

On 23/08/2012, at 18:28, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:

>   Today's Topic Summary
> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
> 
> dumb mail question [2 Updates]
> a new little thing about Mountain Lion [8 Updates]
> Speaking rate in Voiceover [4 Updates]
> Is Facebook Now Completely Broken [1 Update]
> Best GPS app for iPhone [2 Updates]
> 1password accessibility [1 Update]
> Anyone has a link to a working version of Stanza? [1 Update]
> there's an update to Mountain Lion available [1 Update]
> TextEdit question [5 Updates]
>  dumb mail question
> Bill Holton  Aug 23 03:52PM -0400  
> 
> Hi.
> What is the best voiceover command to use that will get mail to consistently 
> open a web URL insight email?
>  
> 
> Ricardo Walker  Aug 23 06:10PM -0400  
> 
> Hi,
>  
> I would navigate by character to the url itself then press VO space. If that 
> fails you, do the same but instead of pressing VO space, press VO shift M to 
> bring up the context menu and select to open link or something like that.
>  
> hth
>  
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
>  
>  
> 
>  a new little thing about Mountain Lion
> Joseph Norton  Aug 23 04:15PM -0400  
> 
> Well, they finally did it!
>  
> Now, when downloading the BootCamp Windows Support software, they finally 
> give you a progress report.
>  
> Not a big thing, but, it's a tiny improvement.
>  
> Now to try VMWare Fusion 5 and see what it can do.
>  
> 
> Ray Foret Jr  Aug 23 03:18PM -0500  
> 
> So, does this make it possible for a blind person to install windows using 
> bootcamp independantly; or, need we wait for yet more work to be done?
>  
>  
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>  
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>  
> Skype name:
> barefootedray
>  
>  
> 
> "Christopher-Mark gilland"  Aug 23 04:30PM -0400  
> 
> You know, that doesn't sound like that half bad of an idea. I too have vm 
> ware 5, but have been really hesitant to install it and set a vm of Windows 
> 7 up on it as I was a little scared from the horror stories I heard... but 
> then again, I guess that was from Boot Camp, not from Fusion, huh.
>  
> Anyways...
>  
> Chris.
>  
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Joseph Norton" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 4:15 PM
> Subject: a new little thing about Mountain Lion
>  
>  
>  
> 
> christopher hallsworth  Aug 23 10:09PM +0100  
> 
> Let us know please as I want to try Bootcamp 
> at some stage. Thanks!On 23 Aug 2012, at 21:18, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> christopher hallsworth  Aug 23 10:10PM +0100  
> 
> Wow only downloaded Fusion 4 I think last night or the night before.
> On 23 Aug 2012, at 21:15, Joseph Norton wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> Chris Blouch  Aug 23 05:19PM -0400  
> 
> Then you should be eligible for a free upgrade.
>  
> CB
>  
> On 8/23/12 5:10 PM, christopher hallsworth wrote:
>  
> 
> Ricardo Walker  Aug 23 06:04PM -0400  
> 
> I would doubt it. Installing windows really has nothing to do with the 
> bootcamp set up at that point. It would be up to MS to make the installation 
> of windows accessible.
>  
> Of course, as a parson who uses bootcamp, I hope I'm wrong. lol.
>  
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
>  
>  
> 
> "Daniel Miller"  Aug 23 05:08PM -0500  
> 
> You're right. It'd be up to Microsoft to make windows installs accessible,
> since that progress bar is only for installing the mac side of bootcamp.
> Unfortunately, Windows 8 will be the only version of windows for the first
> time ever that's accessible during install.
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker
> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 5:05 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: a new little thing about Mountain Lion
>  
> I would doubt it. Installing windows really has nothing to do with the
> bootcamp set up at that point. It would be up to MS to make the
> installation of windows accessible.
>  
> Of course, as a parson who uses bootcamp, I hope I'm wrong. lol.
>  
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
>  
> On Aug 23, 2012, at 5:09 PM, christopher hallsworth
>  
> > Let us know please as I want to try Bootcamp at some stage. Thanks!On 
> > 23 Aug 2012, at 21:18, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>  
> >> So, does this make it possible for a blind person to install windows
> using bootcamp independantly; or, need we wait for yet more work to be done?
>  
> >> Skype name:
> >> barefootedray
>  
> >> On Aug 23, 2012, at 3:15 PM, Joseph Norton 
> wrote:
>  
> >>> Well, they finally did it!
>  
> >>> Now, when downloading the BootCamp Windows Support s

enquiring anne's assistance with a mac problem:

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hi Anne,

It's chenelle, I  am in need of some  assistance with  accessing materials off 
of a  school  website using  voice over? with adobie acrobat reader.  i was 
wondering if you could possibly  email me off list.
my email address is: filmchenelle1...@gmail.com
i really appreciate your assistancew in this  very important matter.
sincerely, chenelle
p.s. i will  email  you with  further details off list.

Sent from my iPhone

On 05/09/2012, at 13:34, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:

>   Today's Topic Summary
> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
> 
> adding large amount of new contacts from list? [3 Updates]
> folders in mountain lion [3 Updates]
> New Tech Doctor podcast entitled Teaching the Mac in France [1 Update]
> iPhone again [1 Update]
> Forceing a diolog window to close [2 Updates]
> Bard download Question [1 Update]
> Caps Lock to VO keys and more [1 Update]
> app backups with Carbonite? [1 Update]
> recipes or database app with iCloud? [3 Updates]
> Further on the Talking communities client! [2 Updates]
> A Skype Query on the I Phone. [2 Updates]
> Logitech Media Server [1 Update]
> Syncing or Mirroring Two Folders [1 Update]
> In search of accessible password vault [1 Update]
> Help With Fusion [1 Update]
> [Maccessibility] The New Maccessibility Is Here [1 Update]
>  adding large amount of new contacts from list?
> Alex Hall  Sep 05 01:09PM -0400  
> 
> Hi all,
> I just got an email with about 25 email addresses in it. I want to add them 
> all to my contacts, under a single group so I can send mass emails to 
> everyone on that list. Short of pasting each address into a new contact, then 
> somehow managing to add that contact to a group, is there a way I can do 
> this? Thanks.
>  
>  
> Have a great day,
> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
> mehg...@gmail.com
>  
> 
> Chris Bruinenberg  Sep 05 10:13AM -0700  
> 
> Hi Alex. Are you thinkim like a distribution list?
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
>  
> 
> Alex Hall  Sep 05 01:15PM -0400  
> 
> Yes, exactly. When I send to this group, the message should go to everyone. 
> Ideally all addresses would be hidden from recipients, but that is not a 
> priority.
> > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
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> > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
>  
> Have a great day,
> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
> mehg...@gmail.com
>  
> 
>  folders in mountain lion
> May and Noah  Sep 05 08:41AM -0400  
> 
> Hey, I was wondering what happened to the folders with Mountain Lion? Not all 
> my folders show up any longer. Who hid them?
>  
> May and Prince Noah
> Personal Playground
> www.canadianlynx.ca
> m...@canadianlynx.ca
>  
> 
> Ricardo Walker  Sep 05 09:49AM -0400  
> 
> Hi,
>  
> lol. That is not a whole lot to go on. What folders are you referring to?
>  
> Thanks.
>  
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
>  
>  
> 
> May and Noah  Sep 05 10:46AM -0400  
> 
> Ones I created, school, books, ect.
>  
> May and Prince Noah
> PR Manager
> www.phoenixfirefm.net
>  
> Personal Playground
> www.canadianlynx.ca
> m...@canadianlynx.ca
>  
>  
> 
>  New Tech Doctor podcast entitled Teaching the Mac in France
> Robert Carter  Sep 05 09:39AM -0500  
> 
> Hi All,
>  
> In this just published Tech Doctor podcast, Robert talks with Anne Robertson 
> who lives in France.
>  
> In addition to working as a translator, Anne teaches blind and visually 
> impaired people to use the Mac. Robert and Anne discuss her approach to 
> training and explore how folks in France go about acquiring technology.
>  
> They discuss the use of braille and the popularity of ebooks. Anne reads lots 
> of ebooks from a Canadian company called Cobo. These books are accessible on 
> both the Mac and iOs devices. Check out the podcast for all of the details.
>  
> The Tech Doctor podcast is available on iTunes, iBlink radio and at
> http://www.dr-carter.com
>  
> Robert Carter
>  
> 
>  iPhone again
> Mary Scott  Sep 05 09:58AM -0400  
> 
> I would really like to know of some podcasts or other tutorials on the iPhone 
> so I can start off fast with it. Any ideas? Mel
>  
> 
>  Forceing a diolog window to close
> Andrew Lamanche  Sep 05 08:07AM +0100  
> 
> To force close an application or window, press command+option+escape key. A 
> force quit application window will apear with all your applications in a 
> table. You can interact with the table to choose the one you wish to close. I 
> find that it is usually already highlighted but it is best to check. Interact 
> with the table, vo+up or down arrow to land on the application you want to 
> close, stop interacting and move to extreme right with fn+vo keys+right arrow 
> and press force-quit button. You will be asked whether you want to quit the 
> application. Again, 

Safari question:

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hi all,

i just intered a online  school for the first time. i wanted to know  how would 
one navigate  the website using voice over? when  the website has to use  falsh 
player? there are  items on the  website that are  electronic based for 
instance, the flash cards on the  website  to study from are  electronic. i can 
sign into the website however,  accessing the  materials on the website is 
somewhat difficult at the moment. i have 15 days from the day of purchasing the 
 class  to  get my full refund back. but before i go ahead and do that i would 
like to see if there were another  way for me to access the materials on the 
website?
if anypme could help me on this one i would most appreciate it.
sincerely, chenelle

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On 05/09/2012, at 18:19, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:

>   Today's Topic Summary
> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
> 
> Logitech Media Server [2 Updates]
> app backups with Carbonite? [1 Update]
> Skype keeps crashing when using dial pad in a call [1 Update]
> installing extensions in Safari [1 Update]
> enquiring anne's assistance with a mac problem: [1 Update]
> help pls with streaming music to airport express with voiceover on [1 Update]
> Updating Adobe Flash Player [2 Updates]
> Bard download Question [1 Update]
> iPhone again [1 Update]
> iPhone [5 Updates]
> Using Eclipse on the Mac [1 Update]
>  Logitech Media Server
> Emrah  Sep 05 05:33PM -0400  
> 
> BTW you can set the classic mode as default.
>  
> 
> Marc Sutton  Sep 05 02:53PM -0700  
> 
> Yes, I was able to do this once I found out how to get it into that mode 
> initially. It's working great now. Thanks.
> Marc
>  
>  
> 
>  app backups with Carbonite?
> agent086b  Sep 06 07:41AM +1000  
> 
> Sorry can't help. If you get an answer can you post it here as I need to 
> know also.
> Also how did you get Carbonite? I looked on the Mac App store with no luck.
> Max.
>  Original Message 
> Subject: app backups with Carbonite?
> From: Alex Hall 
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 07:02:52 -0400
>  
> 
>  Skype keeps crashing when using dial pad in a call
> Shawn Krasniuk  Sep 05 04:38PM -0500  
> 
> Hi guys. I've noticed this a few weeks ago when I bought my Skype credit but 
> didn't do anything because I thought it wouldn't crash so much. But now that 
> it's crashing more, this is ridiculous. Skype keeps crashing when I use the 
> dialpad in a call. For example, I use Skype to call my bank. When I press the 
> number 1 to check my balance and everything, Skype crashes. Has anyone else 
> experienced this?
>  
> Shawn
> Sent from my white Mac Book
>  
> 
>  installing extensions in Safari
> Donna Goodin  Sep 05 04:22PM -0500  
> 
> Hi all,
>  
> I just tried to install an extension in Safari. Somehow I screwed it up, 
> because after that, Safari would give me the busy message every time I 
> pressed a key. Happily, I hadn't yet installed the latest update to ML, and 
> when I did that, the problem went away. So, can someone enlighten me as to 
> the correct way to install an extension?
> thanks in advance,
> Donna
>  
> 
>  enquiring anne's assistance with a mac problem:
> Chenelle Hancock  Sep 05 04:46PM -0400  
> 
> Hi Anne,
>  
> It's chenelle, I am in need of some assistance with accessing materials off 
> of a school website using voice over? with adobie acrobat reader. i was 
> wondering if you could possibly email me off list.
> my email address is: filmchenelle1...@gmail.com
> i really appreciate your assistancew in this very important matter.
> sincerely, chenelle
> p.s. i will email you with further details off list.
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
>  
> 
>  help pls with streaming music to airport express with voiceover on
> William Windels  Sep 05 10:33PM +0200  
> 
> Hello,
> I had problems with streaming music to me airport express.
> The music was streaming from my macbook air with osx 10.8.1 with iTunes 
> 10.6.3 and airport express version 7.6.1.
> The problem: there where regularly interruptions in the played music.
> This wasn't happening when voiceover wasn't on (and not only when voiceover 
> wasn't speaking).
>  
> So, on the macbook air, with voiceover off : no problems but when I turned 
> voiceover on, there where breaks in the stream.
>  
>  
> Streaming from the iphone4/ipad2 was also fine.
>  
>  
> Does this make sense?
>  
> any hints are very welcome.
> Kind regards,
> William
>  
> 
>  Updating Adobe Flash Player
> Mary Scott  Sep 05 03:23PM -0400  
> 
> I need to update my fla

deleting post from facebook application on the i phone 4.s.

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hi all,

i wanted to know if anyone could  help me  out with a facebook  problem that i 
am having?  i am trying to delete   post from my facebook page off of my phone 
using voice  over  on the i phone?  is there anyone that could help me in   
this  matter. i would greatly appreciate it.
sincerely, chenelle
thanks.

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i.o.s. 6 question?

[Chenelle Hancock]

Hi all,

After  installing i.o.s. 6 onto my mack book pro over three days ago. My  mack 
after starting back up would  take forever  to  start up voice over. then it 
would fade in and out. it sounded choppy when starting back up after powering 
on the mack? is there something that i can do to fix this problem? has anyone 
had the same problem as myself, with regards to voice over  starting up in a 
choppy manor?.
 a any help that anyone could give me on this  problem i would most greatly 
appreciate it.
sincerely, chenelle

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