Is there anyone out there that could help me download a Russian braille table 
onto my Mac using voice over I need step-by-step instructions? I'm in voiceover 
utilities and I selected braille but for some reason I can't select the table. 
By the way, this is Chenelle thank you so much for your time and help I most 
greatly appreciated.

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> On Apr 20, 2015, at 10:19 AM, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:
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> Eloquence for the Mac. - 4 Updates
> A question about making headings on different levels with ms word. - 3 Updates
> Night Owl - 6 Updates
> For what it's worth: Netflix help center article on accessing subtitles, 
> captions, and alternative audio on various devices - 1 Update
> Digest for macvisionaries@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 13 topics - 1 
> Update
> Well, I did it, Pre-ordered the Apple watch! - 2 Updates
> Netflix on MacBook Air - 4 Updates
> Voiceover and tables in Microsoft Word on the mac - 1 Update
> Maybe a stupid question, but does a web site service like this exist? - 1 
> Update
> VoiceOver training - 1 Update
> Automatically enabling and disabling Quick Nav when apps gain focus - 1 Update
> Eloquence for the Mac.           
> Devin Prater <d.pra...@me.com>: Apr 20 01:45AM -0500 
> 
> I second that. Espeak would be far better. 
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
> sadam ahmed <sadamahmed1...@gmail.com>: Apr 20 06:23PM +1000 
> 
> Not a bad notion at all. 
>  
> I’m currently drafting an email to 
>  
> accessibil...@apple.com <mailto:accessibil...@apple.com> so will mention it. 
>  
> The perfect solution would be for them to include ETI eloquence in the next 
> version of OS X. I can’t be the only person who would like that synth on the 
> Mac. 
>  
> It took a while but we did get Alex on the iOS products eventually. 
>  
> Thanks once again for your feedback regarding this matter. 
>  
> Best, 
>  
> Sadam Mohammed Ahmed 
>  
> B.A. Business Information Systems 
>  
> RMIT University 
>  
> Sabahattin Gucukoglu <listse...@me.com>: Apr 20 10:07AM +0100 
> 
> You’re certainly not the only one. My bug report on this is here, from a 
> couple of weeks back:
> http://openradar.appspot.com/radar?id=5298694911950848
> Scott Davert <scottslistm...@gmail.com>: Apr 20 10:09AM -0400 
> 
> Eloquimnce is the main reason I stick with Windows, as it's the only
> synth I can clearly understand with my type of hearing loss, for
> whatever reason. While I can use the decent braille support already
> built in, Eloquince would still be way faster. isn't the current
> version of this synth on the Mac server based? meaning that I can't
> use it offline, and who knows what info is being shared with the
> person running the server?
>  
> Scott
>  
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> A question about making headings on different levels with ms word.     
> Annie Skov Nielsen <annieskovniel...@gmail.com>: Apr 20 02:51PM +0200 
> 
> Hi all.
>  
> Ok I have installed the preview of office. I have looked a little at word. 
> How do you make a heading on a level e.g. level 2.
>  
> I have never liked office on windows, but i like it on the mac.
>  
> Best regards Annie.
> Jamie Pauls <jamiepa...@gmail.com>: Apr 20 08:37AM -0500 
> 
> Place your cursor in the paragraph where you want to apply the style. Then, 
> go to format and choose styles. I had to choose all styles before I could see 
> the different heading levels. I am doing this from memory, so please forgive 
> any errors.
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
> Eileen Misrahi <eileen.misr...@gmail.com>: Apr 20 07:05AM -0700 
> 
> Hi Jamie, 
>  
> Thanks for the tip on activating all the style selections. However, I haven’t 
> found a keystroke that will work like on the PC side. I did locate a list of 
> keystrokes for Word 2016, but the ones for heading styles don’t work for me. 
> It would be nice if I had a keystroke to evoke the various heading styles It 
> would make my work more efficient. On another note, have you been able to 
> create an envelope or label? Since I’m coming from the PC side, the dialog 
> box for this on the Mac side is not as straight forward to me. I struggled 
> for a while trying to make a simple mailing label the other night, but was 
> not successful in the printing of it. It came out blank. I was able to print 
> a label on the PC side in Word 2010, so I know that I’m not out of ink. 
> Again, thanks for the tip. 
>  
> Cheers, 
> Eileen 
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> Night Owl           
> "Jürgen Fleger" <apple-engl...@fleger.net>: Apr 20 08:45AM +0200 
> 
> Hi,
>  
> is Night Owl the only accessible twitter client for the Mac you know of?
>  
> My issues with this app: 
>  
> 1. The timeline scrolls always to the top automatically and it seems to be 
> insignificant which settings I’ve set. I tried different settings but it had 
> no impact on this behaviour.
> 2. I’m not able to find a support address except for twitter accounts of the 
> developers. But I’m not able to send direct messages to people who don’t 
> follow me and so there’s no way to reach them.
>  
> Any ideas?
>  
> All the best
> Jürgen
> Ray Foret Jr <rforet7...@comcast.net>: Apr 20 02:06AM -0500 
> 
> First, the fact that you cannot send direct messages to people who do not 
> follow you is not a fault of Nightowl. That's a limitation of Twitter itself. 
> As to other clients, forget it. Nightowl is the one and only Twitter client 
> which we can use for the Mac.
>  
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>  
> Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
>  
> Sent from my Mac,
> the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in
>  
> "Jürgen Fleger" <apple-engl...@fleger.net>: Apr 20 09:29AM +0200 
> 
> Thanks for your answer.
> I know that this is not the fault of Night Owl. But I don’t like the fact a 
> developer is not availabel directly, in this case even not at all.
> But that’s not my request. Again, thanks for answering my question.
> J
>  
> sadam ahmed <sadamahmed1...@gmail.com>: Apr 20 06:17PM +1000 
> 
> Hello, 
>  
> Night Owl was updated yesterday. 
>  
> The release notes claim that some issues relating to account management were 
> addressed. 
>  
> You should be running version 2.83. 
>  
> I echo the sentiments forget any other Twitter client on the desktop. 
>  
> Best, 
>  
> Sadam Mohammed Ahmed 
>  
> B.A. Business Information Systems 
>  
> RMIT University 
>  
> Maxwell Ivey <maxwelli...@aol.com>: Apr 20 06:24AM -0500 
> 
> hi; then post a tweet on their time line. you can do that whether you follow 
> them or not. and i use it on my mac. i have the time for refresh set to like 
> five or ten minutes. and i arrow over to the table. while in the table i only 
> move up or down when i want to. and if i want to go to the top i just press 0 
> because there are no twitter i d with numbers at the beginning and so i'm 
> automatically taken to the top. best of luck, max 
>  
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> On Apr 20, 2015, at 1:45 AM, Jürgen Fleger wrote:
>  
> Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com>: Apr 20 10:00AM -0400 
> 
> Others have hit all your questions, so I'll just mention the scrolling. 
> Unless you mean visually, I'm not sure what you're talking about here. If you 
> close and re-open Night Owl, you will be at the top, but so long as you leave 
> it open, your position never changes. Can you describe what the problem is 
> and how we can reproduce it?
>  
> --
> Have a great day,
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> For what it's worth: Netflix help center article on accessing subtitles, 
> captions, and alternative audio on various devices     
> Christine Grassman <cgrassman1...@gmail.com>: Apr 20 09:43AM -0400 
> 
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> Digest for macvisionaries@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 13 topics     
> Chenelle Hancock <filmchenelle1...@gmail.com>: Apr 20 07:49AM -0400 
> 
> Hello Anthony,
> This is Chenelle,
> I wanted to thank you I have been trying to get help for two months now and 
> no one knew what I was talking about? I was wondering if you can give me 
> step-by-step instructions on how to download the BrailleTouch able to my 
> computer using my Mac? I'm never done it before and I want to make sure that 
> I do it right!
> Thank you so much I really appreciate it.
> Sincerely, Chenelle
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> Well, I did it, Pre-ordered the Apple watch!     
> Kevin Cussick <the.big.white.sheph...@googlemail.com>: Apr 20 09:46AM +0100 
> 
> Hi Donna, Please keep us informed on how the watch performs watching 
> with interest.
>  
> On 18/04/2015 21:22, Donna Goodin wrote:
> Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com>: Apr 20 06:47AM -0500 
> 
> Will do, Kevin.
> Cheers,
> Donna
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> Netflix on MacBook Air           
> Christine Grassman <cgrassman1...@gmail.com>: Apr 20 05:52AM -0400 
> 
> I am trying to sign out of Netflicks on my iPhone and MacBook Air. I am 
> double tapping Sign Out on my iPhone, but it is not working. (I had to get 
> sighted assistance to do this last night.) On my macBook Air, I have tried 
> various browsers, and cannot locate a sign out or a log out. There are a 
> bunch of unlabeled links just as there are unlabeled buttons or silent spaces 
> in the iPhone app. Some help would be appreciated, as I wish to sign out of 
> everything so that, perhaps, maybe, audio description might decide to show 
> itself in the languages options menu and then actually work when I log back 
> in.
> TIA. 
> 
> Christine
> Jamie Tachiyama <jathlet...@gmail.com>: Apr 20 02:55AM -0700 
> 
> I would call Netflix customer service. I did that last night, they added a 
> flag to my account, and now it is appearing for me. It is only available for 
> daredevil though.
>  
> Jamie T
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> Christine Grassman <cgrassman1...@gmail.com>: Apr 20 05:57AM -0400 
> 
> My understanding, according to all of the articles out there, is that any 
> Netflix production has it available. This is not so?
> Jamie Tachiyama <jathlet...@gmail.com>: Apr 20 03:43AM -0700 
> 
> They told me that they were working on it but it was not currently available. 
> I could certainly take a look and see if I can get it on another show.
>  
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> Voiceover and tables in Microsoft Word on the mac     
> Andrew Lamanche <ioani...@me.com>: Apr 20 08:42AM +0100 
> 
> Hi,
>  
> I've just tried inserting and navigating a table into a microsoft word 
> document on my mac. The inserting of the table was easy and accessible. 
> Navigating the table also seems to work without having to interact with it. I 
> tried using both tab key and voiceover keys with arrow keys, both seem to let 
> me navigate the table and Voiceover gives the cell coordinates very well. The 
> only thing that seems the problem at present is that when I have actually 
> written some text into a cell and then tried to modify it by deleting some 
> characters, VoiceOver doesn't give feedback on what letters are deleted. 
> Could someone confirm this? This is really promising and provided Microsoft 
> can fix some problems like the one above, we might actually get another word 
> processing app on the mac that handles tables well. Also page transitions in 
> a document longer than one page seems fine. I have set my preferences for 
> Word to wrap text to window in preferences.
>  
> I've also just noticed the same behaviour when typing text into text areas on 
> the feedback page in Microsoft Word. VoiceOver doesn't give me any feedback. 
> I have to move away from the text area and back to read the entire text.
>  
> How do I report any problems with Word and voiceOver to Microsoft?
>  
> Andrew
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> Maybe a stupid question, but does a web site service like this exist?     
> Lisette Wesseling <lisettewessel...@gmail.com>: Apr 20 07:16PM +1200 
> 
> Hi Chris,
> Sorry I don't know. I used to do some contract work for them producing 
> braille letters, but don't have time anymore. They seem a pretty friendly 
> bunch so perhaps you could contact them and ask how much it is for one letter.
> Sorry I can't help. Braille was more expensive than print, but it wasn't 10 
> pounds. They might have changed their pricing since I last worked for them.
>  
> Cheers
> Lisette
>  
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> VoiceOver training           
> christopher hallsworth <challswor...@icloud.com>: Apr 20 07:43AM +0100 
> 
> Yup, sure works fine at my end.
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> Automatically enabling and disabling Quick Nav when apps gain focus     
> "Jürgen Fleger" <apple-engl...@fleger.net>: Apr 20 07:59AM +0200 
> 
> Hi Ed,
>  
> just tried it on an existing Activity of mine and it worked fine. Did you 
> check
> 1. Quick Nav on in the settings of this Activity?
> 2. the checkbox to enable the Quick Nav settings section?
> So you need to check two checkboxes then it should work. Sometimes Activities 
> seem not to work for I don’t know what reason. Restarting VO should help.
>  
> All the best
> Jürgen
>  
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