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> Apple Keynote [7 Updates]
> Thanks Tommy. I caught Leo Laport's coverage. [1 Update]
> transferring app from lion to ml [3 Updates]
> Does anyone have a guide on how to install Ubuntu on the Mac? [5 Updates]
> How to create a password-protected (encrypted) disk image [1 Update]
> I will go stark raving mad if VO Doesn't Stop with the (enter application 
> name here) busy garbage [7 Updates]
> setting up MacBook Pro with voiceover [1 Update]
>  Apple Keynote
> "Paul Hunt" <prhu...@att.net> Sep 10 09:20AM -0500  
> 
> Hello everyone. I've been hearing that the new IPhone will be announced at
> 10:00 AM today pacific time. I want to hear this address live. I don't see a
> link yet. If anyone has been able to catch the live keynotes in the past,
> How can I be sure to access this address live?
>  
> 
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> Thanks so much.
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>  
> Paul
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> "Tommy Craig" <tecrai...@gmail.com> Sep 10 10:06AM -0500  
> 
> Hi Paul, 
> 
> I don't think it is beening streamed. Usually they have bloggers that post
> during the keynote and then Apple puts the video up a couple hours later. If
> you won't to check out the blog, you might try the mac observer website. 
> 
> Tommy
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> Subject: Apple Keynote
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>  
> Hello everyone. I've been hearing that the new IPhone will be announced at
> 10:00 AM today pacific time. I want to hear this address live. I don't see a
> link yet. If anyone has been able to catch the live keynotes in the past,
> How can I be sure to access this address live?
>  
> 
>  
> Thanks so much.
>  
> 
>  
> Paul
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> Paul Hunt <prhu...@att.net> Sep 10 10:23AM -0500  
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> What is the url?
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> Georgina Joyce <g...@gena-j.me.uk> Sep 10 05:45PM +0100  
> 
> Hello,
>  
> This is not so. In June Apple streamed some of the developer comference. I've 
> read that those of us with an Apple device can receive it. However, it looks 
> like you need an RSS reader.
>  
> http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/504959/20130910/apple-iphone5s-iphone5c-launch-live-event-time.htm
>  
> Gena
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> "Tommy Craig" <tecrai...@gmail.com> Sep 10 02:19PM -0500  
> 
> Sorry Paul, 
> 
> I was leaving right after my last post and just now read your message. They
> did not stream the event and the mac observer didn't have their live blog. I
> ended up going to imore.com and watching their coverage. 
> 
> Apple now has some videos about the new products on their webpage but not
> the full keynote. That will probably come later. 
> 
> Tommy
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Hunt
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> Subject: Re: Apple Keynote
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> What is the url?
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> On Sep 10, 2013, at 10:06 AM, "Tommy Craig" <tecrai...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  
>  
>  
> Hi Paul, 
> 
> I don't think it is beening streamed. Usually they have bloggers that post
> during the keynote and then Apple puts the video up a couple hours later. If
> you won't to check out the blog, you might try the mac observer website. 
> 
> Tommy
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Hunt
> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 9:20 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Apple Keynote
>  
>  
>  
> Hello everyone. Ive been hearing that the new IPhone will be announced at
> 10:00 AM today pacific time. I want to hear this address live. I dont see a
> link yet. If anyone has been able to catch the live keynotes in the past,
> How can I be sure to access this address live?
>  
>  
>  
> Thanks so much.
>  
>  
>  
> Paul
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> Chris Blouch <cblo...@aol.com> Sep 10 04:35PM -0400  
> 
> Video is now here:
>  
> http://www.apple.com/apple-events/september-2013/
>  
> CB
>  
> On 9/10/13 3:19 PM, Tommy Craig wrote:
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> Stacey Robinson <stacey...@bellsouth.net> Sep 10 03:37PM -0500  
> 
> Is there somewhere where I could download the audio of the apple keynote?
>  
> Blessings,
> Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Gemini
> mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net
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> On Sep 10, 2013, at 3:35 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:
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> 
>  Thanks Tommy. I caught Leo Laport's coverage.
> "Paul Hunt" <prhu...@att.net> Sep 10 02:29PM -0500  
> 
> Actually, I'm in no hurry.
>  
> 
>  transferring app from lion to ml
> Mark Furness <flintma...@gmail.com> Sep 10 02:17PM -0400  
> 
> Can I copy the calendar app from Lion's applications and paste it into my ml 
> application list?
>  
> Mark
>  
> 
> Daniel C <topdog2...@gmail.com> Sep 10 02:33PM -0400  
> 
> Should be able to, yes. Though, just out of curiosity, why's it you need to 
> copy and paste calendar from lion anyway? I think that that's a system app so 
> it already should be in both ML and Lion by default.
>  
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> Mark Furness <flintma...@gmail.com> Sep 10 02:44PM -0400  
> 
> I am trying to fix a speech problem, where the subject field is not quickly 
> followed by the date time.
>  
> Im my lion it works fine, but not in my ml.
>  
> Mark
>  
> 
>  Does anyone have a guide on how to install Ubuntu on the Mac?
> Mike <blinkin4...@gmail.com> Sep 09 08:58PM -0500  
> 
> Hey everybody,
>  
> The subject line says it all. I'm looking for a guide on how to do this. So 
> far everything I have found just says "click here" and that does not help 
> very much.
> Thanks for any tips
>  
> Mike m
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> Chris Blouch <cblo...@aol.com> Sep 09 10:20PM -0400  
> 
> Just checking why you would need to do that? You already have full unix 
> in the terminal. Is there something in Ubuntu that you really need? 
> You'll have to do a lot of fiddling around with partitions unless you 
> are doing this under VMWare.
>  
> CB
>  
> On 9/9/13 9:58 PM, Mike wrote:
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> Chris Moore <chris.w...@gmail.com> Sep 09 10:21PM -0400  
> 
> Mike,
> I typed "howto install ubuntu on a mac" into safari. The first result was a 
> step-by-step guide. 
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>  
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> Mike <blinkin4...@gmail.com> Sep 10 08:06AM -0500  
> 
> No not really. I don't have a good reason for doing it other then I just want 
> to try it. I'm not actually sure if I'm going to go through with it but I 
> want to see what is involved.
> Thanks for the tips guys!
>  
> Mike m
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> Chris Blouch <cblo...@aol.com> Sep 10 02:17PM -0400  
> 
> I'd start with playing around in terminal and figuring out how to 
> manipulate files there. You can use man to poke through the details on 
> the commands and then start playing with MacPorts to install anything 
> that isn't already included. OSX terminal by default uses the bash shell 
> so any tutorials using bash should work just fine. Others might have 
> slight variations.
>  
> CB
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> On 9/10/13 9:06 AM, Mike wrote:
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>  How to create a password-protected (encrypted) disk image
> Traci Duncan <our4p...@gmail.com> Sep 10 09:38AM -0700  
> 
> Hi all,
>  
> I was googling on how to have a password protected folder on my Mac. For 
> example, if I had a collection of articles I wanted to keep private or a 
> daily journal. The following link will bring you to, what seems to be, the 
> most popular option.
>  
> Is this the way y'all would go about it?
>  
> http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1578?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US 
>  
> Thanks,
> Traci
>  
> 
>  I will go stark raving mad if VO Doesn't Stop with the (enter application 
> name here) busy garbage
> Christine Grassman <cgrassman1...@gmail.com> Sep 09 09:14PM -0400  
> 
> This occurred some time ago, and I was directed to some steps which 
> alleviated the issue, but I cannot find the post . . . because every time I 
> try using Spotlight to search through my archives, or use Google to search, 
> or go *anywhere* to try to find the info, I hear "mail busy" and "Safari 
> busy" and "finder busy" and "spotlight busy" . . . . my blood pressure is 
> getting rather busy. Someone, please assist . . . 
> Christine
>  
> 
> Chris Blouch <cblo...@aol.com> Sep 09 10:25PM -0400  
> 
> How much memory do you have in your Mac and what all did you have 
> running. What version of OSX are you running? There have been issues 
> with getting lots of VO busy messages when memory gets low and this 
> seemed to happen more often on older versions of OSX.
>  
> CB
>  
> On 9/9/13 9:14 PM, Christine Grassman wrote:
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> Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> Sep 09 10:40PM -0400  
> 
> Agreed. Even in Mountain Lion I was getting those all the time. Eventually i 
> saw that my system, a low-end Mac Mini, was running with only a couple 
> hundred mb of free ram at any given time. I put 8gb in it instead of the 
> stock 2gb and have had almost no problems since. The only "busy" messages I 
> get now are in Safari (yeah, big shocker there) and sometimes in Mail if I do 
> a text search. So, html areas or flat representations thereof seem to be a 
> problem, but aside from that all is humming along perfectly.
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> Have a great day,
> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
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> 
> Anne Robertson <a...@anarchie.org.uk> Sep 10 07:00AM +0200  
> 
> A few tips.
>  
> Make sure you close all windows in applications before quitting.
> Make sure you quit applications rather than just closing all windows.
> Repair permissions regularly.
>  
> Reinitialise the PRAM from time to time.
>  
> Cheers,
>  
> Anne
>  
> 
> Christine Grassman <cgrassman1...@gmail.com> Sep 10 08:56AM -0400  
> 
> Thank you. I am vigilant about the first two suggestions -- the third is the 
> one I did when I had trouble last time, but I can't find the steps on how to 
> do it because searching has become a nightmare because of the "busy" 
> situation. I don't know anything about how to do the fourth suggestion. Tips 
> appreciated.
> Christine
> P.S. I have all of the latest software versions and updates.
>  
> 
> Anne Robertson <a...@anarchie.org.uk> Sep 10 03:17PM +0200  
> 
> Hello Christine,
>  
> To repair permissions:
> * Open the Utilities folder (Cmd-Shift-u) and locate Disk Utility;
> * Open Disk utility and select your hard drive in the table (normally it will 
> be the second item);
> * Navigate right to First Aid and select it;
> * Navigate down to Repair Disk Permissions and click it.
> You can follow the repair process by navigating up to Results and interacting 
> with that table.
>  
> To reinitialise the PRAM:
>  
> * Shut down your computer;
> * hold down the following keys: Option, Command, letter "r" and letter "p";
> * Press the Power button once, but keep holding down the four keys until 
> you've heard the start up chime four times;
> * Release the four keys and the machine will boot as usual.
>  
> Cheers,
>  
> Anne
>  
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>  
> 
> Christine Grassman <cgrassman1...@gmail.com> Sep 10 11:20AM -0400  
> 
> Terrific. Thanks so much.
>  
> 
>  setting up MacBook Pro with voiceover
> Adrienne Sinclair Chalmers <chalmer...@googlemail.com> Sep 10 09:34AM +0100  
> 
> Hi Jodie
>  
> If I remember correctly, when you plug your new MBP in and switch it on for 
> the first time, as it boots up it will speak to you and ask you if you need 
> help with seeing and give you a simple keystroke to perform, can't remember 
> which one:) 
>  
> If you tell it you do, it will next ask you if you know how to work Voiceover 
> already, or if you would like a very short practice on a few basic commands 
> which are the ones you need in order to set up your computer yourself. As you 
> haven't used VO on a Mac before, I think it would probably be a good idea to 
> have a go at this.
>  
> By the way, when your computer is in this mode, it reverts to one of the 
> older voices. You will soon get to have a nice HQ voice instead, so don't 
> worry about that.
>  
> Then you get to spend ages telling it who you are and where you live and all 
> that sort of thing. I warn you it will at some point take a picture of you, 
> so don't do what I did the time I was setting up a computer and sat there 
> with wet hair with a towel wrapped round it. Not a good look.
>  
> After you've done all that, it chunters away to itself for what seems like 
> ages Then it should, again if I am remembering correctly, or if they haven't 
> changed the procedure since I last did this, start speaking with an HQ voice.
>  
> The key is to be patient. I don't think there are any short cuts. it's all 
> just stuff that has to be done.
>  
> You will be off to a head start with this because you are at least used to VO 
> on your iPhone.
>  
> Two final points, if VO seems to go off, that command f5 should always switch 
> it back on. If it's in a particularly bad mood, sometimes you need to do it a 
> few times to wake it up
>  
> Control Option h will get you the VO help menu. This is really useful as it 
> has a whole load of things in it, such as all the VO commands, the sort of 
> noises it makes when various things happen and some more detailed 
> instructions, as well as the usual interactive help.
>  
> Very good luck with it all.
>  
> Best
>  
> Adrienne
>  
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> night streaming this particular announcement from Apple I had to go to iBlink 
> radio in order to be also find out what they were all coming out list which 
> is the iPhone five ass in the iPhone 5 C

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