Hey Donna, brant and eric, I just wanted to say that in regards to rehab here in great old cleveland ohio. Where i live currently, they are somewhat becoming more apple friendly here. like i said in my post yesterday evening. My rehab counselor's had purchased me my mack book pro 2010 in september of that year. all because i changed my career plan to wanting to work for apple and to learn another operating system. also it wascost affective for rehab. they even went as far as to purchase me a time capsule along with a portable braille display as well. i asked for the braille pen 12 of course due to my job having a certain amount of space for my technology. but i purchased an i pad mini for work but they provided the mack and the braille display. which cost them around 3500 dollars total. and that was with a three year apple protection care plan added for the mack. so i was very lucky in that sense. sincerely, chenelle
Sent from my iPhone On 10/04/2013, at 8:45 AM, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: > Today's Topic Summary > Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics > > Becoming a qualified Apple technical support agent/p trainer [3 Updates] > Convincing rehab services to purchase a Mac [11 Updates] > help with favorites bar in mail pls [1 Update] > Reply directly to the sender of an email? [2 Updates] > Continuous read with Read2Go app [1 Update] > some wordpress help please [1 Update] > keyboard focus with vmware 5/win8 [1 Update] > Digest for macvisionaries@googlegroups.com - 25 Messages in 17 Topics [1 > Update] > Making a document accessible to seniors who don't use a computer? [4 Updates] > Becoming a qualified Apple technical support agent/p trainer > Brandt <brandt.steenk...@gmail.com> Apr 10 01:54PM +0200 > > Hi there folks, > > I am working to become a fully qualified Apple support agent/trainer, > however, the local representatives of Apple (Core group) refuse to give the > necessary training unless you work for them. I have supplied them with my > curriculum vitae several months ago, but have received no reply whatsoever. > > Does anybody know of any other way to become a qualified Apple technical > support agent/trainer? If such a method exist, preferably online, please let > me know. This is intensely frustrating to me, wanting to help the local blind > community, but not being able to do to lack of the necessary qualifications. > > The South African blind computer user is basically stuck using Windows at > this point in time due to the lack of necessary training facilities and > personnel. > > Warm regards, > > Brandt Steenkamp > > Sent from my macbook pro > > Contact me: > > Mobile/iMessage/WatsApp: +27781205013 > > Email: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com > > My ring to Skype: > California, United States > +(1)760-5140161 > Extension 512 > Cape Town, South Africa > +(27)213-002317 > Extension 161 > Johannesburg, South Africa > +(27)105-002316 > Extension 170 > > Skype: Brandt.steenkamp007 > > SIP: 5500...@spokn.com > > Twitter: brandtsteenkamp > > > Eric Oyen <eric.o...@gmail.com> Apr 10 06:04AM -0600 > > well, > if you were in the states, it would be easier. I know of several totally > blind people who do such work for apple (generally in apple stores). 2 are in > phoenix arizona. If you have a strong local blind organization (like the US > NFB) then you might be able to convince apple locally that it would be in > their best interests to help. you might also contact the apple HQ here in the > states. > > -eric > > On Apr 10, 2013, at 5:54 AM, Brandt wrote: > > > > Sandi Jazmin Kruse <sandi1...@gmail.com> Apr 10 02:26PM +0200 > > hi brand. > Why not just start over skype, as far as i know unless you have other > rules in sa, you dont need too be certified too help other human > beings. > > > sandi > > > > > > Convincing rehab services to purchase a Mac > Eric Oyen <eric.o...@gmail.com> Apr 09 04:31PM -0600 > > I haven't done so myself, but it is possible. > > The 2 justifications that can be used are: > 1. lower cost of ownership (as accessibility is included) > 2. Greater included feature set for the cost involved (built in camera, > bluetooth, wi-fi, firewire, USB 2.x or greater, full apple repair support, > minimal training cost and plenty of supported hardware options). > > now, getting an equivalent windows machine involves the acquisition of the > machine, additional hardware, cost of the operating system, SMA for jaws > ($250 per year), jaws itself ($890 for 2 keys), hardware only support from > dell, etc. the cost of the windows machine is actually higher on a total cost > of ownership basis than a mac would be. also, voiceover on the apple doesn't > require a yearly SMA and OS upgrades are inexpensive. > > cost of macbook pro with mountain lion OS: $1500 low end > cost of dell laptop with windows 7, MS Office 2012, jaws, SMA an equivalent > hardware options: $1900 low end. > > believe me, I use both here and I much prefer the macbook over the windows > machine for sheer usefulness. > > the best justification that can be made to VR is the cost. the 2nd best is > that the employer requires training and use of apple products in their office > environment. > > outside of those, I don't have a clear idea how to convince VR to cooperate. > > -eric > > On Apr 9, 2013, at 11:50 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > > > > Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@me.com> Apr 09 05:51PM -0500 > > Hi there > Although the cost may be a good justification to rehab, I think the second > option of the employer wanting training and use of Apple products is an even > better argument in this case. You might want to also get the employer on this > as well, if it's possible. What they say means a lot. > > Also, if they get the three-year warranty with the Mac, then they can be > given the accessibility number so their consumer can call it. They will > probably love that part. They will want to slam the case closed as soon as > they can. You might also point out that other states, such as Texas, have in > fact bought Macintosh computers for certain consumers. See if you can talk > the counselor into calling the Chris Cole rehabilitation center in Austin, > Texas to talk to them about that. > > Regards, > Gigi > > > Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> Apr 09 08:42PM -0500 > > Hi Erik, > > Thanks for this. Unfortunately I live in the rural backwater that is southern > Illinois. Our VR people are at least 10 years behind. What they've told my > student is that they already have PCs and copies of JAWS stock-piled in a > warehouse, so even if the mac cost $5 it would be more expensive. > > GRRRRRRRRRR. > Best, > Donna > > > Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> Apr 09 08:44PM -0500 > > Thank you, Gigi. I'm not sure much of this will carry much weight, for the > reasons I just explained. but I'll try and get them to talk to Texas. Someday > these idiots just have to move into the 21st-century. > Best, > Donna > > > Mark Baxter <markbaxte...@gmail.com> Apr 09 07:23PM -0700 > > The counter argument to this is that those PCs are out of date, and the > copies of Jaws come with out of date SMA's which may cost to upgrade. > Stockpiling does not sound like much more than a cop-out. > > > • Mark BurningHawk Baxter > • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 > • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com > • My home page: > • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ > > > Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> Apr 09 10:07PM -0500 > > I agree, but they don't care. > Donna > > > Eric Oyen <eric.o...@gmail.com> Apr 09 11:07PM -0600 > > having items in a wherehouse for 5 years?> thats a waste of public funds, not > to mention a potential pollution hazard. I don't think there would be much > aftermarket support for such machines. In fact, the entities that stockpiled > all this equipment and never disbursed it to the clients should be prosecuted > under federal laws for fraud, malfeasance, criminal withholding and a bunch > of other appropriate charges. This smacks of the kind of government waste > that is breaking our nation and making us the laughing stock of the rest of > the world. > > -eric > > On Apr 9, 2013, at 7:42 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > > > > Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> Apr 10 06:53AM -0500 > > Hi Eric, > > Well, to be fair, I don't think it's been in the warehouse for five years, > but it wouldn't surprise me if it's been in there for one or two. And the > fact that you have a stockpile of something just isn't the factor that should > be the basis for selecting a person's technology. So yeah, I agree with you, > it should be suable, but I don't think it is. > Cheers, > Donna > > > Brandt <brandt.steenk...@gmail.com> Apr 10 01:59PM +0200 > > Not to be rude, or base anything on the stereo typical American, but outside > of your Borders you are well known for suing for almost anything. I don't see > why this kind of suit won't be successful. > > I will not go into the history of ridiculous American lawsuits, but believe > me, they are there and plentiful. It is not far-fetched to sue and win in > this situation. > > Warm regards, > > Brandt Steenkamp > > Sent from my macbook pro > > Contact me: > > Mobile/iMessage/WatsApp: +27781205013 > > Email: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com > > My ring to Skype: > California, United States > +(1)760-5140161 > Extension 512 > Cape Town, South Africa > +(27)213-002317 > Extension 161 > Johannesburg, South Africa > +(27)105-002316 > Extension 170 > > Skype: Brandt.steenkamp007 > > SIP: 5500...@spokn.com > > Twitter: brandtsteenkamp > > > > Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> Apr 10 07:04AM -0500 > > And actually, that's one of the things I hate about our culture, so really > don't want to perpetuate any more "ridiculous law suits" than we already > have. :) > Donna > > > Eric Oyen <eric.o...@gmail.com> Apr 10 06:21AM -0600 > > admittedly a lot of suits are ridiculous on their face, but some are quite > serious. we have the unfortunate circumstance to be in a time where the > people are interested only in themselves and try to vote for more "bread and > circuses". This is the time when any state/empire starts failing. > Unfortunately, the politicians here are clueless and would rather feather > their own nests than act in the best interests of the country. > > In the case of blind people who honestly need services just to become > employable, this situation can be very difficult to contend with. Here we > have all this new technology and it works, but the states insist that we use > stuff that either costs more to deliver or is not as accessible. so, here you > go. we are stuck either having to sue or just laying down and taking it. > > -eric > > On Apr 10, 2013, at 5:59 AM, Brandt wrote: > > > > help with favorites bar in mail pls > William Windels <william.wind...@gmail.com> Apr 10 12:04PM +0200 > > Hello, > It seems not that easy to reorder my mailboxes in the favorites bar of mail > (osx 10.8.3): > > I tried: > mark a mailbox for dragging from inside the favorites bar with vo+comma > then I received the message: that this item can't be dragged. > I have tried it with a mouse-down action on de item to drag and the place to > drop but this seems to do strange things. > Is this the procedure or can I do something else? > > I think, the drag and drop function is far from equal to the action a sighted > user is doing with dragging and dropping. > Or this functionality is still a work in progress since the introduction > in10.6 or a new bug is created because of the updates of osx. > > Any comments are very welcome, > > Kind regards, > William Windels > > > Reply directly to the sender of an email? > Teresa Cochran <vegaspipistre...@gmail.com> Apr 09 02:28PM -0700 > > Another possible way to do this assumes that you have quoted text in the > reply. If you do, reply to a message, find the sender's email address in the > body of the message, copy it, delete the list address in the "to" field, and > paste in the address you copied. > > HtH, > Teresa > > > Brandt <brandt.steenk...@gmail.com> Apr 10 11:22AM +0200 > > Thanks Teresa, that is actually what I was looking for, although in windows > using outlook express or Microsoft Outlook, you could do this from the > context menu. > > Warm regards, > > Brandt Steenkamp > > Sent from my macbook pro > > Contact me: > > Mobile/iMessage/WatsApp: +27781205013 > > Email: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com > > My ring to Skype: > California, United States > +(1)760-5140161 > Extension 512 > Cape Town, South Africa > +(27)213-002317 > Extension 161 > Johannesburg, South Africa > +(27)105-002316 > Extension 170 > > Skype: Brandt.steenkamp007 > > SIP: 5500...@spokn.com > > Twitter: brandtsteenkamp > > > > Continuous read with Read2Go app > Mike Busboom <mbusb...@gmail.com> Apr 10 10:46AM +0200 > > Thank you very much, Esther, for your in-depth description of the Voice Dream > Reader app. Your reasons for suggesting it are compelling, especially since > it would most likely allow me to enjoy continuous reading of Read2Go > materials. > > Do you know if it is possible to pause the app's speech and from within the > app, look up words in one of the dictionaries I have on my iPhone or from the > built-in English dictionary on my device? Because of the nature of my needs, > I frequently need to have orthographic information about the texts I am > reading and using Braille isn't always an option. > > Per your suggestion, I will listen to the Applevis podcast about the app once > again. I must admit that I only briefly perused it when it came out since I > am already extremely satisfied with my iPhone's English and German speech > TTS's.. > > Kindest regards and thanks for your response, > > Mike > > > > some wordpress help please > Maxwell Ivey <maxwelli...@aol.com> Apr 09 09:48PM -0500 > > Hello; I have a question about wordpress, but its not a mac accessibility > question. I have received a request to post my first banner ad on my > wordpress built website. So, now i need to know the best and easiest way to > add rotating banners to my website. I have read about add rotate and another > plug in called max banner ads, but i was wanting to know what you use. I'm > hoping there are some website owners on here who use wordpress and who have > banner ads. I'm hoping this could be a first for me and maybe lead to more > regular income to smooth out the rough spots in my income between equipment > sales commissions. thanks in advance for any help. take care, Max > > > keyboard focus with vmware 5/win8 > anouk radix <radix.an...@gmail.com> Apr 10 02:59AM +0200 > > Hello everyone, > I am impressed with the narrator version that microsoft put into windows > 8. I could install it quickly thanks to vmware and was then able to go > right ahead and get nvda with just the narrator. > So nvda works fine but i have at time sproblems knowing if i am in > windows or in vmware. I have had to forcibly shut the app down once > already because my keypresses were not put through to windows (possibly > because i was not in there) even though i had it at full screen. > What ar eyour experiences with this and is there a way to keep your > focus consistently within windows with the newer fusion versions (i mean > at times you will have to access fusion to put through usb devices or > cmd-tab to other mac apps and then turn on vo again, it would be nice if > there was a consisten tway to make sure that if you return to vmware you > have keyboard focus in windows. > Thanks in advance for any tips or information, > Greetings, Anouk, > > > Digest for macvisionaries@googlegroups.com - 25 Messages in 17 Topics > Chenelle Hancock <filmchenelle1...@gmail.com> Apr 09 06:05PM -0400 > > > > Hi Donna > > I was able to get rehab to purchase a mack over 3, years ago. I then told > them that i wanted to learn another new computer system and that i wanted to > work for apple. Therefore, they went ahead and it chased me a 15 inch mack > book pro 2010. > Sincerely Chenelle > > > Making a document accessible to seniors who don't use a computer? > Maurice Mines <maurice.mi...@gmail.com> Apr 09 02:14PM -0700 > > Good afternoon, I have an interesting accessibility problem. I have a > document that reads very well in TextEdit. But the document that I am being > easily on a computer, has to be converted into an audio form format? So my > question to the group is what he is the best way to achieve that? I have two > audio production software packages,The first one, is Amadeus Pro and the > second is audio hijack Pro. So other any good suggestions for making a > document that reads very well in TextEdit, into an audio form that a senior > could listen to this document on the end in a less player.? I certainly > intend to distribute the document to computer users in its current Microsoft > word format. But I know this lead to, or three seniors who don't know how to > use a computer, and don't want to learn how to use a computer will definitely > feel left out of this information. Certainly feel free to suggest possible > solutions to this problem. Sincerely Maurice. PS, please note that I'm using > Dragon dictate for the Mac to dictate the text of this email. So it if it > doesn't make sense completely to you please email me privately and let me > know? > > > erik burggraaf <e...@erik-burggraaf.com> Apr 09 05:23PM -0400 > > Why don't you just highlight all the text, press control option shift M, and > choose add to ITunes as a spoken track? Then you can just burn the resultant > audio to a CD. > > Best, > > Erik Burggraaf > Follow my series of articles about setting up a small business through the > ontario disability support program at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/blog > Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 > or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com > > > > Chris Blouch <cblo...@aol.com> Apr 09 05:28PM -0400 > > If you uses TextEdit and convert the document to plain text does it read > reasonably well? If so then you can use terminal to generate an AIFF > file of the audio. So if I save the document as important_stuff.txt then > in terminal I would do > > say < important_stuff.txt -o important_stuff.aiff > > and you should end up with an aiff file which you can then convert to > mp3 or whatever. Speech rates are default for your system but if you > check the email archive I previously note how you can embed directives > in the text to change those setting on the fly. > > CB > > On 4/9/13 5:14 PM, Maurice Mines wrote: > > -- > ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ > > > Chris Blouch <cblo...@aol.com> Apr 09 05:45PM -0400 > > Or you can do what Erik suggest, which sounds a lot easier than my > solution, unless you wanted to embed some directives in the doc. Hmm, > maybe those directives would still be honored by the add to iTunes > process. Here is one of the early emails which talks about using the say > command and embedding directives in the text: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/msg72990.html > > CB > > On 4/9/13 5:23 PM, erik burggraaf wrote: > > -- > Ż\_(?)_/Ż > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group > macvisionaries. > You can post via email. > To unsubscribe from this group, send an empty message. > For more options, visit this group. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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