Re: [Bulk] Insertion point
Hello Ray and all, There's another option. One could sit on Snow Leopard for a while and give Lion a chance to work out the bugs Isaac - Original Message - From: Ray Foret Jr To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 10:20 PM Subject: Re: [Bulk] Insertion point All that does is cause Voice Over to always show you what is to the right of the curser. It WILL, NOT, make the Mac curser move like the windows curser. You must remember, even if you choose this option, the Mac curser is still the Mac curser. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jun 6, 2011, at 9:14 PM, Johchi wrote: Hi Ray and all, Isn't there an option on the Mac where you can make the cursor movement act just like it does in Windows? Johnny On 6/1/2011 4:38 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Here's something that might prove a big help to you. Where-as in windows, the curser is directly beneath each character you right, on the Mac, the curser is immediately to the right of each character you type. think, if you will, of the old electric typewriter. On an electric typewriter, as you will recall, the typing ball causes a letter to be typed and then moves over to the right to type the next character. Well, the Mac curser's behavior is rather more like that old typing ball than a windows curser. if, for example, you type the word "apple" as soon as you type the letter a, the Mac curser will be found just to the right of that letter a. This will allow you to type the p, just like the old typewriter ball. What you are seeing is not a characteristic of Voiceover, rather, it's a fundamental difference in how the Mac handles curser movement for everyone. So, to get back to the "apple" example, let's say you put in too many p's. How to get rid of the third p? IF you use command+left, this should put you back at the beginning of the line; and, assuming you've typed the word "apple" at the beginning of this line, the word also. IF the word is in the middle of the line, just use VO+left or right till you locate the beginning of the word. Now, move the curser right letter by letter. IF, IF you have the curser moving to the right and you hear, "space", followed by "a", that tells you that the curser is now just to the right of the letter a and is in place to either delete that A or type another letter to the right of that a. So, now, you want to find that extra p in apple. Just press the right arrow till you hear that third p spoken. Now, press the delete or backspace key. Here's what you just did. When you moved to the right of that second p, you heard the third p and were then to the right of it. Now, when you backspaced over that third p, you caused the curser to behave just like the self-correcting key on an electric type writer. The curser deleted that third p and then moved in to it's position so that now, the curser is just to the left of the l and to the right of the second p in the word apple. HTH. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jun 1, 2011, at 3:22 PM, David Eagle wrote: Hello, I'm sure this has been asked on this list loads of times but I must ask, since I can't find the answer in Google. I have used windows for years, I use windows everyday at work. I cannot come home and suddenly get to grips with the way that Voice-Over deals with cursoring through text. I'm sure you know what I mean. If I was using a windows computer with or without a screenreader, I could edit text both the same way. My head is hurting with the new way of cursoring through text and I'm making so many mistakes; It is taking me ages to write simple documents. Is th-- http://www.davideagle.co.uk -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you
Re: Insertion point
Ray, You do have a point there. I was meaning to comment upon the Lion issue and I let those messages get away from me. And yes, the Mac cursor does react differently. Sometimes I am not sure if I am at the end of the line or two cells from it. Isaac - Original Message - From: Ray Foret Jr To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 10:37 PM Subject: Re: [Bulk] Insertion point What, pray tell, has that to do with the curser position and movement? It must be remembered, (for the benefit of y'all who are or may perhaps still be new to the Mac world), that the Mac curser itself moves in a different way to the windows curser. See my earlier message for an analysis. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jun 6, 2011, at 9:27 PM, Isaac Obie wrote: Hello Ray and all, There's another option. One could sit on Snow Leopard for a while and give Lion a chance to work out the bugs Isaac - Original Message - From: Ray Foret Jr To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 10:20 PM Subject: Re: [Bulk] Insertion point All that does is cause Voice Over to always show you what is to the right of the curser. It WILL, NOT, make the Mac curser move like the windows curser. You must remember, even if you choose this option, the Mac curser is still the Mac curser. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jun 6, 2011, at 9:14 PM, Johchi wrote: Hi Ray and all, Isn't there an option on the Mac where you can make the cursor movement act just like it does in Windows? Johnny On 6/1/2011 4:38 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Here's something that might prove a big help to you. Where-as in windows, the curser is directly beneath each character you right, on the Mac, the curser is immediately to the right of each character you type. think, if you will, of the old electric typewriter. On an electric typewriter, as you will recall, the typing ball causes a letter to be typed and then moves over to the right to type the next character. Well, the Mac curser's behavior is rather more like that old typing ball than a windows curser. if, for example, you type the word "apple" as soon as you type the letter a, the Mac curser will be found just to the right of that letter a. This will allow you to type the p, just like the old typewriter ball. What you are seeing is not a characteristic of Voiceover, rather, it's a fundamental difference in how the Mac handles curser movement for everyone. So, to get back to the "apple" example, let's say you put in too many p's. How to get rid of the third p? IF you use command+left, this should put you back at the beginning of the line; and, assuming you've typed the word "apple" at the beginning of this line, the word also. IF the word is in the middle of the line, just use VO+left or right till you locate the beginning of the word. Now, move the curser right letter by letter. IF, IF you have the curser moving to the right and you hear, "space", followed by "a", that tells you that the curser is now just to the right of the letter a and is in place to either delete that A or type another letter to the right of that a. So, now, you want to find that extra p in apple. Just press the right arrow till you hear that third p spoken. Now, press the delete or backspace key. Here's what you just did. When you moved to the right of that second p, you heard the third p and were then to the right of it. Now, when you backspaced over that third p, you caused the curser to behave just like the self-correcting key on an electric type writer. The curser deleted that third p and then moved in to it's position so that now, the curser is just to the left of the l and to the right of the second p in the word apple. HTH. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jun 1, 2011, at 3:22 PM, David Eagle wrote: Hello, I'm sure this has been asked on this list loads of times but I must ask, since I can't find the answer in Google. I have used windows for years, I use windows everyday at work. I cannot come home and suddenly get to grips with the way that Voice-Over deals
Re: transition from pc to mac
Hi Joanne, the best way to learn is to just roll up your sleeves and do it on a daily basis! don't put pressure on yourself by setting deadlines and obstacles. Just do it daily. when I wanted to learn MSDOS years ago, I just did it a little bit each day. Before long I was doing nicely. And you will have to do the same. Spend a little time with it each day. Learn the layout of programs. Learn what to do in certain situations. Study how you tot to one point. then try to figure out how to get back to the original point. Just a little at a time each day is the best way to go. All the best! Isaac - Original Message - From: "Joanne Chua" To: "macvisionaries" Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 8:58 AM Subject: transition from pc to mac hi there, i'm Joanne, from Australia whom currently on total transit from PC to Mac. however, i found that the commands and learning the back takes me too long, and i'm not really sure where to start. it sounds stupid i know but, may i ask, is there any tips or ways for me to fast track my learning curves with using voice over? any suggestion is deeply appreciated. many thanks Joanne :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: multiple email accounts?
Hello Kliph, You know, you can have a mailbox for each account. For example: I have onne for Verizon, Gmail and Apple mail. So you won't need to worry about which one to answer first. Just go to the different mailboxes and answer all the mail there. You seem to be quite active in your imac. If you're near an Apple store perhaps you would benefit from the "one-to-One" program. I think you would have a ball and I think you'd learn quickly. You can pearn different programs as you go. You can have as many lessons as you can handle. but it's all dependent upon whether there's an Apple store near you. All the best! Isaac - Original Message - From: "Kliph&Sharrie" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 8:34 AM Subject: multiple email accounts? Hello, I have multiple email accounts, how do I choose witch one I want to send from? Do I have to be in that account, or is there a key combo I can hit? Thanks. Sent from Minister Miller's IPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: boiceover since last update.. grrrr
Colin, Where do I find the update version? Thanks. Isaac - Original Message - From: "Red.Falcon" To: Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 8:30 AM Subject: Re: boiceover since last update.. g Hi Eric! I've just updated and my version is 10.6.8! Have a look to see if you've got that option! Someone else was having a problem with something but getting 10.6.8 helped them! Colin On 27 Jun 2011, at 12:31, Eric Oyen wrote: ok, this is getting frustrating. it seems that voiceover is crashing on me every time I turn around. all this started happening since the 10.6.7 update. it wasn't so bad until 4 days ago and now it happens every time I use app switcher, type in e-mail and chat on Skype. I have parused the system logs trying to find a cause, but nothing shows up. I have also run the usual disk utility permission checks with nothing found. to top it off, this machine is borrowed until I can acquire a new laptop or mac mini. my last machine smoked the power supply and a g od chunk of the motherboard. good thing for time machine. Does anyone have any information on technology grants to the blind to acquire such equipment? -Eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mac Mini.
Hello, As an owner of a mini mac, I can safely tell you you have the adapter you need. All you need to do is plug the plug for the monitor in to the adapter you have. I know, I've done it a number of times at home and at the Apple store. Isaac - Original Message - From: "Georges Zaynoun" To: Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2011 12:59 PM Subject: Re: Mac Mini. Ok now I made the setup without a screen but I agree totally on what both of you said that I need not only the adapter that came with the mini but the screen as well. I tried the adapter it fit somewhere in the mini but on the other end it did not fit in the vga display I have, here I wonder what is the adapter I should get to fit in this old screen? Can anybody tell me the names of the connectors from left to right? I know the most left one is for the loudspeakers and of course I recognise the 4 usb ports but the other connectors are strange to me, especially that wide slot under them. Original message: Hi, You might want to hold off on doing anything to the mini and saving your receipt. Rumors are their will be a refresh soon for the Mac mini's and Macbook airs. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, & AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jul 2, 2011, at 11:53 AM, Bryan Jones wrote: Hello Georges, Scott answered your first two questions and I can answer the third, regarding how to replace RAM in the Mac Mini. The process is quite simple in the newer Mac Minis that were manufactured beginning in mid 2010, which I assume is what you have purchased. The entire enclosure of the recent Mini is aluminum with the exception of the large round plastic "foot" that you will feel on the underside of the Mini. This plastic foot is actually a cover that can be removed simply by turning it counter-clockwise and lifting it off of the Mini. Assuming you have washed your hands thoroughly and are now grounded to prevent static electricity from damaging the internal components, you can feel around inside the body of the Mini and you will find the RAM modules. They are stacked on top of each other, so you will only feel one module at first. It is held in place by two metal spring loaded clips, one on each side of each RAM module. You gently expand these two clips and as you do so the RAM module will pop up slightly. You can then gently pull on it to fully remove it from it's socket. While you're doing this, you might want to feel along the edge of the RAM module where it meets the socket in the Mini. This might help you to understand how the RAM module fits into the socket, and you'll need to know this when you attempt to insert your new RAM modules because they can only be inserted correctly facing one direction. Once you've removed the first RAM module you can feel the second RAM module under it. It is removed using the same procedure. Incidentally, RAM prices seem to be dropping at the moment and, in fact, someone on another list posted a note saying that newegg.com has an 8 GB RAM kit on sale today for US $50, but I haven't verified this and I'm not sure if newegg.com is an option in your locale. HTH, Bryan On Jul 2, 2011, at 2:26 AM, Georges Zaynoun wrote: Just bought mac mini with the default configuration 2.4GHZ and 2GB of ram and 320GB of hard disk space to start with. My questions are: Can I set it up by just connecting the mouse and the keyboard or do I need the screen or at least the adapter to vga? Heard theories in the past that they used to hang up without an adapter when used is this still the case? Can I run windows7 32bits on it with 2GB ram or shall I wait until 4GB or more is into it? Btw, how does one replace ram on this little cd-like thing? Will stick to bootcamp now, regards. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Georges Zeinoun Timmerv. 6A, SE54163 SKÖVDE Tel: +46500201623, +46500482929 Mobile: +46707567315 E-mail: humorlessg...@samobile.net Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send ema
Re: Help needed please
Hello Johnny, Go to the Apple menu. Arrow down till you see shutdown. click on that three times quickly and that'll do it! I mean hit the enter key quickly three times. hth Isaac - Original Message - From: "Cakes" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 9:31 PM Subject: Help needed please Hi folks, Well I finally got my MBP. The rep told me how to turn it on and do a couple VO commands but didn't tell me how to shut the beast down for the night. Would someone please be so kind as to tell me what the shut down command is for the MacBook? Thanks much, Johnny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Help needed please
Johnny,,, Try the alt key and f5. that toggles it on and off. Apple calls the alt key the command key. Isaac - Original Message - From: "Cakes" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 10:23 PM Subject: Re: Help needed please Hi al, Likee always you guys are the greatest and have come to the rescue once again. So I got it shut down alright, so I thought I would e cockie and turn it back on to practice the shut down command again. Except this t8ime, VO is not speaking at all. So can someone please tell me how to turn the speech back on now? ' Johnny On 7/5/2011 9:31 PM, Cakes wrote: Hi folks, Well I finally got my MBP. The rep told me how to turn it on and do a couple VO commands but didn't tell me how to shut the beast down for the night. Would someone please be so kind as to tell me what the shut down command is for the MacBook? Thanks much, Johnny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: how long to charge amacbook?
Hi Karen, I should think three hours would do it. But why not leave it pluged in overnight? And don't give the Macbook any coffee! I have a Macbook! Isaac - Original Message - From: "Karen Lewellen" To: "list voiceover" Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 1:23 AM Subject: how long to charge amacbook? I realize most of you are playing in the jungle with Lion, but if someone can tell me how long it takes to do this I would appreciate it. taking my loan of a macbook to play at Starbucks tomorrow. thanks, Karen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
sluggishness in booting
Hi Guys: In the New York times thursday edition of July 21, 2011, David Pogue stated that Apple is aware of the problem and that they plan to fix it in an update. the problem has to do with Ical in an endless loop. Now you know where the article is and can read it for yourself. Isaac -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
lion from the New York times
Hello folks, David Pogue who writes on Apple products is writing a tutorial on Lion! He says the reason it seems sluggishly slow is because of an endless loop in Ical! Get his thursday night July 21 edition of the New York times and you can read the entire article. Isaac -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: rs games and lion
Shawn, Don't you think you may be speaking too soon? It takes time to get responses sometimes. Isaac - Original Message - From: "Shawn Krasniuk" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:24 AM Subject: Re: rs games and lion Hi. I too have a problem with Monopoly. I've already sent an email describing my problems but they don't seem to care since they haven't done anything about it. This was last week. As for audio problems, I haven't experienced any erratic behaviour here. Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: MOderator Note - Please read
Hello all,,, I think it's a shame that Cara has to babysit grown men and women because they act like babies! this takes a lot of energy from Cara who has an illness! this is wrong! I think you should let Carlyn do her part as moderator and give her some teeth! Let her remove trouble-makers or put them on moderator status! This means their posts don't reach the list unless the moderator approves! It's a shame that people need to moderate adults who feel like throwing a temper tantrum! It detracts from those who want to learn. Isaac - Original Message - From: "Cara Quinn" To: Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 6:50 PM Subject: MOderator Note - Please read Hi All; Firstly, Mark is due to post a mod note as well today, so I'll let him speak for himself. For myself, I want to first apologize for being away / quiet for several weeks. The last two and a half or so have been taken up with quite the persistent and annoying little illness. So I haven't been keeping touch with the lists much. HOwever, in the short time that I've had today to go through just the scantest few posts, I've already seen enough to warrant this additional mod note. So here goes. Despite some speculations here about the purpose of the list being to drive traffic to blogs or that the mods no longer care about the quality / rules of the lists; let me just say that nothing could be further from the truth, and frankly I'm simply amazed at the level of derision that some listers have begun showing and sharing on this list. -This is a mailing list; moderation teams change and grow all the time on such lists and forums. This is no excuse to start rumors or mistreat eachother. Just because a mod might not be there every single second of every day, doesn't mean that the list guidelines and etiquette go out the window. Now please know, I'm not talking to new listers here, so much when I say this, but really to those of you who have been around here a while, and who ABSOLUTELY know better. If you want to trash the list,the people on it, or the mods, then please, by all means, go right ahead, but for God's sake, do it off the list! lol! Know what I mean? Please seriously have just the slightest bit of courtesy for eachother and for the list itself. If you no longer wish to be here, you know how to leave. But please please please be adults and don't go ruining this valuable resource for others whom may really like it or need it. That's not fair and it's disrespectful in the extreme. Regardless of whether we post list guidelines or not, I'm really talking here about just plain, general, basic good ole' netiquette. Treat others as you would like to be treated. YOu're all smart peeps here! YOu can do this! -KNow what I mean?… :) Now please; I'll be catching up on tons of email, please do treat eachother with courtesy and respect?… I thank you for your time and will get back with you soon. Have a great day / evening, wherever you may be!… Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
the mac
Hi guys, I use a braille display with the mac mini. It doesn't seem to ick up all the screen things. I heard the VoiceOver say you're in such and such a program use vo shift down arrow to enter the program. the braille display didn't show this. Further, when in messages it doesn't show me the whole line of text. What settings might I need to adjust? thanks and please remember, I am a rookie at this stuff. Isaac -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iphone 4 with braille displays
Hello Kawal, Is this the brailleconnect series? Not sure what essys is. Thanks. who makes it? Isaac - Original Message - From: "Kawal Gucukoglu" To: Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 3:55 PM Subject: Re: iphone 4 with braille displays How about the Eurobraille? I'll be using it with mine when it turns up. It's called the Essys from Europe braille. There are six keys (the same on a perkins machine) plus internal notepad, alarm clock, Diary, bluetooth of course, and when connected to a PC, it charges. Kawal. On Jul 4, 2010, at 2:42 PM, Ahmed Alomran wrote: Hi all I am considering using my Iphone with a braille display. However, I am wondering about the best display that can be paired with Iphone. I am looking for a braille display that allows me to ddrive and control my iphone and use its keys for braille input. any help will be appretiated. Kind and warm regards. Ahmed. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Kawal Gucukoglu (E-mail/MSN): kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (Skype ID): kawalgucukoglu (Mobile/Text): +447905618396 +447576240421 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: the mac
Hi Kev, I have the Braillino right now. I hope to get a brailleconnect one day... Any ideas where I might find more materials to read up on? thanks. Isaac - Original Message - From: "Kevin Mattingly" To: Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 4:01 PM Subject: Re: the mac Mine doesn't show the help text that is announced. To continue reading the line of text, that depends on your braille display. I use a brailliant 80 and to move from left to right on the text, I use the dot 2 to move left and the dot 5 to move right. Kev On Jul 4, 2010, at 3:52 PM, Isaac Obie wrote: Hi guys, I use a braille display with the mac mini. It doesn't seem to ick up all the screen things. I heard the VoiceOver say you're in such and such a program use vo shift down arrow to enter the program. the braille display didn't show this. Further, when in messages it doesn't show me the whole line of text. What settings might I need to adjust? thanks and please remember, I am a rookie at this stuff. Isaac -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: macbook keyboards
Hi Donna, When I was at the Apple store I looked at the Macbooks and I did notice the pro seemed larger than the others. There were several machines there. I wonder if you're near an Apple store and can get in and take a look! I thought the Macbooks keyboards were larger than the windows keyboards and the keys are larger as well. No doubt about it. Isaac - Original Message - From: "Donna Goodin" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 8:10 AM Subject: macbook keyboards Good morning, all, I have a sort of odd question. I have noticed, since getting my Macbook Pro last summer, that my typing on the Mac is a bit less accurate than on other computers. I've finally decided that this is due to the size of the Macbook keyboard, i.e. that it is just a tad too small for my fingers. I got the 13-inch Macbook, so am wondering if the keyboard is larger if you move to a larger model, particularly the 15-inch. Don't know if anyone can answer this, but I appreciate any info you may have. Thanks, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: BR503, braille key to voiceover and snow lepard
Hi Heather, I believe there're several manuals. I have the Snow Leopard one with verson ten point six. It's two volumvs and it costs $15 and ten bucks for shipping. It describes the voiceOver commands. You can get the same manual in zipped format off the Apple website as well for free. Isaac - Original Message - From: sister Heather Albright To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 3:13 PM Subject: BR503, braille key to voiceover and snow lepard I found a braille manual from the light house addaptations site out of ca. I could not see any reviews, does anyone have an experiences of how well the manual is helpful? Heather -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
bluetooth connections
Hi guys, I have a braillino and I use it's bluetooth connection with the Mac mini! It seems to work for a week with me shutting down and turning on again for a week. then it seems to lose the connection the next time I turn on. this is frustrating to me because I need assistance to turn this on again due to a hearing problem. I am thinking of using a wired connection. Have any of you had this experience? I have the new Mac mini. the june 15th 2010 addition. Thanks! Isaac -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: IBraille
Hi Erik, Got an address(es) to which we may direct such missive? I am a new Apple user and I've yet to learn all the pros and cons. Thanks. Isaac - Original Message - From: "erik burggraaf" To: Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 7:00 AM Subject: Re: IBraille HI Mary, Have you tried doing your stuff in text edit and then translating and embossing with louis? That should work, even if it is a little cumbersome. It's tough to defend index. They are not exactly on the cutting edge of software development on any platform. But I suspect that it's stagnated in part because very few people reported using it. I suggest that any one who is using an index on their mac dash off an email to the index people, and cc the accessibility department at apple, since they were in on it apparently. Show some demand and we will get an update next year, hopefully. Best, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Website: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com Toll-free: 888-255-5194 On 2010-07-21, at 11:56 PM, Mary Otten wrote: Hi Allison, IBraille is the braille translation program for Index embossers that works on Macs. Its the mac equivalent to their WinBraille, if you've heard of that. It came out when tiger was out and has not been updated since so far as I can tell. Looks like they put out the product and just let it go with no effort at improving it at all. mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: IBraille
Erik, the time differential is six hours. It's eight here so that would be two their time now. they're not closed yet. by noontime they will be though! so go ahead and do whatever you're planning to do. My machine isn't working well at all on websites and I am not sure why. Isaac - Original Message - From: "erik burggraaf" To: Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 7:42 AM Subject: Re: IBraille I used to have one, but I can't find it now. You can try the support form on the website, but there's a catchca on it so good luck. Unless some one beats me to it, I'll call index tomorrow, pull the access technology trainer card, bitch about the catchca in as friendly a manner as possible, and wiggle and email address out of them. It has to wait til tomorrow now because they will be closed for the day by now. If someone who lives on their time zone could handle it, that would be easier. Otherwise I'll see what I can do. Best, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Website: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com Toll-free: 888-255-5194 On 2010-07-22, at 7:08 AM, Isaac Obie wrote: Hi Erik, Got an address(es) to which we may direct such missive? I am a new Apple user and I've yet to learn all the pros and cons. Thanks. Isaac - Original Message - From: "erik burggraaf" To: Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 7:00 AM Subject: Re: IBraille HI Mary, Have you tried doing your stuff in text edit and then translating and embossing with louis? That should work, even if it is a little cumbersome. It's tough to defend index. They are not exactly on the cutting edge of software development on any platform. But I suspect that it's stagnated in part because very few people reported using it. I suggest that any one who is using an index on their mac dash off an email to the index people, and cc the accessibility department at apple, since they were in on it apparently. Show some demand and we will get an update next year, hopefully. Best, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Website: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com Toll-free: 888-255-5194 On 2010-07-21, at 11:56 PM, Mary Otten wrote: Hi Allison, IBraille is the braille translation program for Index embossers that works on Macs. Its the mac equivalent to their WinBraille, if you've heard of that. It came out when tiger was out and has not been updated since so far as I can tell. Looks like they put out the product and just let it go with no effort at improving it at all. mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
storage areas
Hi guys, When in textedit, how do I find the storage areas? There's a command that takes you to a list where you need to arrow up and down to locate the different areas like document, hard drive, external storage etc etc. What is that command please? Thanks. Isaac -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: word processing and spred sheets on ipad
Hi Simon, Is it convenient for you to get to an Apple store near where you live? they have a "genius bar" where they can answer all your questions. You can even make appointments to see the equipment before buying. I plan to check this out before I decide to buy an iphone. Isaac - Original Message - From: Simon Fogarty To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 6:41 AM Subject: word processing and spred sheets on ipad Hi team, What word processors and spredsheet programs are available for the iPad? And are they usable with voice over? Cheers Simon f -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: ram requirement for voice over
Hello Greg, Perhaps four gigs might do nicely. Most Macs come standard with two. But someone told me four gigs was a good size to have. Isaac - Original Message - From: "Greg Aikens" To: "macvisionaries" Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 7:53 PM Subject: ram requirement for voice over Hi everyone, I am planning on buying a mac. I wanted to know if there is a minimum ram requirement to make sure voice over works smoothly. I know this was the case with windows screen readers last time I purchased a laptop. Thanks for the help. Greg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: macbook versus Macbook pro
Hello Laura, Yes, there's a difference between the Macbook and the Macbook pro. The pro is bigger, has a bigger screen, has more memory, and a bigger hard drive. It has a card reader. the Macbook doesn't have all this. I think the pro is $300 more. could be more. No, VoiceOver doesn't work any better on one or the other. It is designed to work with the Mac operating system. Isaac - Original Message - From: "Laura Bratton" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 9:40 PM Subject: macbook versus Macbook pro Hi All, I have just joined the list. I am useing a PC but hopeing to change to a mac soon. AS far as useing voice over, is there a difference between the macbook and the macbook pro? Does VO work better on one than the other? Thank you for any help, Laura -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: word processing and spred sheets on ipad
Hi simon, It's been said on list that numbers is the exquivalent to excell or something to that affect. so yes, numbers works with VO. I wonder if any of those Apple dealers have any kind of setup like the Apple store? Perhaps we're spoiled in America with all that exposure, but then it's an American company.. Isaac - Original Message - From: Simon Fogarty To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 5:13 AM Subject: RE: word processing and spred sheets on ipad Apple store, wow, that would be a great Idea. I think the closest apple store to me is in brisbaine austrailia, about 3 hours flying time from here. We have a couple of apple dealers or stores that sell apple products, but no apple stores. As for checking out the device, I purchased one and have been using it for everything else, but I'd like to have acces to word processing and spred sheets if possible. I wondered how accessible numbers was with vo? Has anyone tried it? And thanks for the thought, but it's just not possible. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Isaac Obie Sent: Monday, 26 July 2010 11:19 p.m. To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: word processing and spred sheets on ipad Hi Simon, Is it convenient for you to get to an Apple store near where you live? they have a "genius bar" where they can answer all your questions. You can even make appointments to see the equipment before buying. I plan to check this out before I decide to buy an iphone. Isaac - Original Message - From: Simon Fogarty To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 6:41 AM Subject: word processing and spred sheets on ipad Hi team, What word processors and spredsheet programs are available for the iPad? And are they usable with voice over? Cheers Simon f -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: blue tooth on iPad
Simon, Could it be the connections? Sometimes trying to connect these things can be a bear! I've seen connections for some computers that were so delicate, I wondered why they even bothered to go there especially considering how expensive that equipment is. Isaac - Original Message - From: "Simon Fogarty" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 5:19 AM Subject: RE: blue tooth on iPad I'm after a blue tooth headset ha t only goes on one ear. That allows me to listen and walk at the same time as well as listening to my environment as well. But for some reasn the blueant v1 doesn't work on the iPad or at least in ios 3.2. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lane Sent: Tuesday, 27 July 2010 5:31 a.m. To: MacVisionaries Subject: Re: blue tooth on iPad Hi, Yeh the iPad and iPhone 4 use a micro SIM, everything else in the world uses mini SIM. They are exactly the same internal configuration but the micro loses the plastic surround making it considerably smaller. If you are daring enough you can cut any mini SIM down to micro SIM size. Anyway to answer the question about bluetooth, I use a Nokia BH905. Its a headset style over the head arrangement and supports A2DP and AVRC as well as standard headset protocols. Its a really nice headset with noise cancelling, a beautiful design and feels very solid. Unfortunately the iPhone and iPad don't support AVRC for remote control of play/pause/forward/backward. which is a pain but the biggest issue on the iPhone iPad and iPod is the resolution of the bluetooth protocol. It hasn't been complained about very much so I asume that most people don't notice. I don't have any measurements but i'd guess A2DP on the i devices is limitted to only 12KHz, maybe 16 but certainly not 22 or 44. Music through all bluetooth headphones that I've heard is tinny and limited in trebble. It isn't a limitation of the bluetooth protocol as if I pair them with my Nokia N86 or N95 they sound spectacular. I was really hoping Apple would address this issue in IOS 4 but I guess they haven't had enough complaints about it yet. Its very annoying though as I have a beautiful sounding headset crippled by apples drivers. In summary though the BH905 will do exactly what you want, they are solid and sound wonderful as long as you don't mind losing a little trebble. Simon Fogarty wrote: Hi Mac people, I've just splashed out and got the iPad, great toy after shaving a sim card down to fit the micro slot, and being able to get internet access outside of my work and home. However, I have a Bluetooth headset, a blue ant V1, but the iPad wont pick up on it when trying to pair them both. Is this normal, I would have thought the blue ant devices were pretty common devices. If this one wont work, is there anything that is recommended for the Bluetooth connectivity on the iPad? I want to be able to skype from it. Cheers Simon f -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Braille Translation Software.
Hello Jesse, There's one called "Louis".From: "Ana G" To: Subject: Louis Braille Translator Date: Thursday, July 22, 2010 5:02 PM The Louis braille translator for the Mac is at http://www.cucat.org/projects/louis/ the URL on Fred's Head is incorrect. thanks to the person who brought this up. I haven't tried it yet. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. - Original Message - From: "Jesse Bollinger" To: Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 3:07 PM Subject: Braille Translation Software. Hi all, Does anyone know of some software to convert text to braille on the mac? Thanks, Jesse -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Iphone and braille note apex
Hello Sonia, If you look in your Apex tutorial, after Options, then u for user guide, in there somewhere it should cover pairing with cellphones. Are you near an Apple Store? I went to one today and we paired my braille display with the iphone 4. So look under options, u for user guide and see what you can find on pairing with a cellphone Isaac - Original Message - From: "Sonnia" To: "MacVisionaries" Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 11:11 PM Subject: Iphone and braille note apex Hello. I've tried looking online for some good instructions on how to pair the iPhone with my braille note apex but I'm still confused. Would anyone be able to give a bit of guidance on how to begin? I read something about needing a bluetooth pin and i am not sure if i need one for the Iphone or apex and where to get that info. Thanks everyone. :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Iphone and braille note apex
Hi Sonia, There're two ways. 1. the device has the number written on the underside. 2. TRhe authenthicate code is given in the reading material. For example: the HumanWare Braillleconnect devices and the brailliant devices use 1234 as their paring code. Isaac - Original Message - From: "Sonnia" To: "MacVisionaries" Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 1:09 AM Subject: Re: Iphone and braille note apex I think i have an idea of how's it's done, the one problem i have is how do i know what the bluetooth pins are for my iphone and apex? Isaac Obie wrote: Hello Sonia, If you look in your Apex tutorial, after Options, then u for user guide, in there somewhere it should cover pairing with cellphones. Are you near an Apple Store? I went to one today and we paired my braille display with the iphone 4. So look under options, u for user guide and see what you can find on pairing with a cellphone Isaac - Original Message - From: "Sonnia" To: "MacVisionaries" Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 11:11 PM Subject: Iphone and braille note apex > Hello. I've tried looking online for some good instructions on how to > pair the iPhone with my braille note apex but I'm still confused. > Would anyone be able to give a bit of guidance on how to begin? I read > something about needing a bluetooth pin and i am not sure if i need > one for the Iphone or apex and where to get that info. Thanks > everyone. :-) > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Iphone and braille note apex
I believe you need to find the list of supported devices on the iphone. this is where the Apple people may come in handy. Do understand that I've never really done a thing with the iphone on my own. I don't own one yet. Yesterday was the first time I ever ooked up to one. Isaac - Original Message - From: "Sonnia" To: "MacVisionaries" Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 1:37 AM Subject: Re: Iphone and braille note apex I found the iphone by searching for it on my braille note and the services offered were things like hands-free and "serial." somehow the iphone can not find any bluetooth devises: it keeps saying "searching" but nothing appears Isaac Obie wrote: Hello Sonia, If you look in your Apex tutorial, after Options, then u for user guide, in there somewhere it should cover pairing with cellphones. Are you near an Apple Store? I went to one today and we paired my braille display with the iphone 4. So look under options, u for user guide and see what you can find on pairing with a cellphone Isaac - Original Message - From: "Sonnia" To: "MacVisionaries" Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 11:11 PM Subject: Iphone and braille note apex > Hello. I've tried looking online for some good instructions on how to > pair the iPhone with my braille note apex but I'm still confused. > Would anyone be able to give a bit of guidance on how to begin? I read > something about needing a bluetooth pin and i am not sure if i need > one for the Iphone or apex and where to get that info. Thanks > everyone. :-) > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Iphone and braille note apex
Hello Annie, How did you find this pascode? I've been searching for it for quite a while. Thanks. Isaac - Original Message - From: "Annie Skov Nielsen" To: Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 8:46 AM Subject: Re: Iphone and braille note apex Hi. Yes the apex is supported. Be sure that bluetooth is turned on on your IPhone. You will have to search for the apex from your IPhone. I think the code is or 1234. IF you need further assistance please write again. Best regards Annie. On Aug 7, 2010, at 8:56 AM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: In that case, I'd think that the Braillenotes aren't supported by iOS 4 to be used as braille displays. Best idea though to be sure, is to check the apple accessibility page at http://apple.com/accessibility. On Aug 7, 2010, at 1:37 AM, Sonnia wrote: I found the iphone by searching for it on my braille note and the services offered were things like hands-free and "serial." somehow the iphone can not find any bluetooth devises: it keeps saying "searching" but nothing appears Isaac Obie wrote: Hello Sonia, If you look in your Apex tutorial, after Options, then u for user guide, in there somewhere it should cover pairing with cellphones. Are you near an Apple Store? I went to one today and we paired my braille display with the iphone 4. So look under options, u for user guide and see what you can find on pairing with a cellphone Isaac - Original Message - From: "Sonnia" To: "MacVisionaries" Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 11:11 PM Subject: Iphone and braille note apex Hello. I've tried looking online for some good instructions on how to pair the iPhone with my braille note apex but I'm still confused. Would anyone be able to give a bit of guidance on how to begin? I read something about needing a bluetooth pin and i am not sure if i need one for the Iphone or apex and where to get that info. Thanks everyone. :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Iphone and braille note apex
Hello Sonia, I've just come from the Apple Store. I hooked up a brailleconnect12 to the iphine 4. Now it isn't easy to do this. there'are several steps that're not spoken. You really need the expert assistance of the Apple people. So why don't you let it rest a while and plan to go to your local Apple store and let them help you with it??? Just a suggestion. Obviously you're not getting something right in the setup process. I didn't try to do it alone. I had the Apple guys do it! It worked well. Isaac - Original Message - From: "Sonnia" To: "MacVisionaries" Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 12:59 PM Subject: Re: Iphone and braille note apex Update: my brother has an iphone and i turned voice over and bluetooth on and it couldn't find the apex either. Sonnia wrote: Hi, I can't search for the apex on my iPhone. I go to settings/ bluetooth on/searching... and it keeps saying "searching" but nothing else comes on the screen, no list of what devices it finds. and bluetooth on the apex and iphone are both turned on Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: > Hi. > > Normally the code for bluetooth devices is or 1234, so it was a > guess. But I think you can find it in the manual for the apex. > > Best regards Annie. > On Aug 7, 2010, at 3:31 PM, Isaac Obie wrote: > > > Hello Annie, > > How did you find this pascode? I've been searching for it for quite a > > while. Thanks. > > Isaac > > - Original Message - From: "Annie Skov Nielsen" > > > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 8:46 AM > > Subject: Re: Iphone and braille note apex > > > > > >> Hi. > >> > >> Yes the apex is supported. > >> > >> Be sure that bluetooth is turned on on your IPhone. > >> > >> You will have to search for the apex from your IPhone. I think the > >> code is or 1234. IF you need further assistance please write > >> again. > >> > >> Best regards Annie. > >> On Aug 7, 2010, at 8:56 AM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: > >> > >>> In that case, I'd think that the Braillenotes aren't supported by > >>> iOS 4 to be used as braille displays. Best idea though to be sure, > >>> is to check the apple accessibility page at > >>> http://apple.com/accessibility. > >>> On Aug 7, 2010, at 1:37 AM, Sonnia wrote: > >>> > >>>> I found the iphone by searching for it on my braille note and the > >>>> services offered were things like hands-free and "serial." somehow > >>>> the > >>>> iphone can not find any bluetooth devises: it keeps saying > >>>> "searching" > >>>> but nothing appears > >>>> > >>>> Isaac Obie wrote: > >>>>> Hello Sonia, > >>>>> If you look in your Apex tutorial, after Options, then u for user > >>>>> guide, in > >>>>> there somewhere it should cover pairing with cellphones. > >>>>> Are you near an Apple Store? I went to one today and we paired my > >>>>> braille > >>>>> display with the iphone 4. So look under options, u for user > >>>>> guide and see > >>>>> what you can find on pairing with a cellphone > >>>>> Isaac > >>>>> - Original Message - > >>>>> From: "Sonnia" > >>>>> To: "MacVisionaries" > >>>>> Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 11:11 PM > >>>>> Subject: Iphone and braille note apex > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> Hello. I've tried looking online for some good instructions on > >>>>>> how to > >>>>>> pair the iPhone with my braille note apex but I'm still > >>>>>> confused. > >>>>>> Would anyone be able to give a bit of guidance on how to begin? > >>>>>> I read > >>>>>> something about needing a bluetooth pin and i am not sure if i > >>>>>> need > >>>>>> one for the Iphone or apex and where to get that info. Thanks > >>>>>> everyone. :-) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the > >>>>>> Google Groups > >>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. > >>>>>> To po
Re: Iphone and braille note apex
Hello Sonia, Congratulations! That Apex is supposed to behave and connect like charm! After all, this is HumanWare's latest bonus baby! So I guess you'll have to figure something out. One thing I learned today is that the iphone 4 seems only able to handle one input device at a time. I wanted to connect a braille display and a keyboard. It wouldn't do it! The guy helping me said he was going to need to talk to the genius bar guys about this one. Have you or anyone else run across this issue? Thanks. Isaac - Original Message - From: "Sonnia" To: "MacVisionaries" Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 9:14 PM Subject: Re: Iphone and braille note apex Well i managed to connect the iphone to another braille display (its one i rarely use because its clunky but at least i know how to pair now!) the iphone can not load the apex drivers so i may need to call apple or humanware and see what the next step would be Isaac Obie wrote: Hello Sonia, I've just come from the Apple Store. I hooked up a brailleconnect12 to the iphine 4. Now it isn't easy to do this. there'are several steps that're not spoken. You really need the expert assistance of the Apple people. So why don't you let it rest a while and plan to go to your local Apple store and let them help you with it??? Just a suggestion. Obviously you're not getting something right in the setup process. I didn't try to do it alone. I had the Apple guys do it! It worked well. Isaac - Original Message - From: "Sonnia" To: "MacVisionaries" Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 12:59 PM Subject: Re: Iphone and braille note apex > Update: my brother has an iphone and i turned voice over and bluetooth > on and it couldn't find the apex either. > > Sonnia wrote: >> Hi, I can't search for the apex on my iPhone. I go to settings/ >> bluetooth on/searching... and it keeps saying "searching" but nothing >> else comes on the screen, no list of what devices it finds. and >> bluetooth on the apex and iphone are both turned on >> Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: >> > Hi. >> > >> > Normally the code for bluetooth devices is or 1234, so it was a >> > guess. But I think you can find it in the manual for the apex. >> > >> > Best regards Annie. >> > On Aug 7, 2010, at 3:31 PM, Isaac Obie wrote: >> > >> > > Hello Annie, >> > > How did you find this pascode? I've been searching for it for >> > > quite a >> > > while. Thanks. >> > > Isaac >> > > - Original Message - From: "Annie Skov Nielsen" >> > > >> > > To: >> > > Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 8:46 AM >> > > Subject: Re: Iphone and braille note apex >> > > >> > > >> > >> Hi. >> > >> >> > >> Yes the apex is supported. >> > >> >> > >> Be sure that bluetooth is turned on on your IPhone. >> > >> >> > >> You will have to search for the apex from your IPhone. I think >> > >> the >> > >> code is or 1234. IF you need further assistance please write >> > >> again. >> > >> >> > >> Best regards Annie. >> > >> On Aug 7, 2010, at 8:56 AM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: >> > >> >> > >>> In that case, I'd think that the Braillenotes aren't supported >> > >>> by >> > >>> iOS 4 to be used as braille displays. Best idea though to be >> > >>> sure, >> > >>> is to check the apple accessibility page at >> > >>> http://apple.com/accessibility. >> > >>> On Aug 7, 2010, at 1:37 AM, Sonnia wrote: >> > >>> >> > >>>> I found the iphone by searching for it on my braille note and >> > >>>> the >> > >>>> services offered were things like hands-free and "serial." >> > >>>> somehow >> > >>>> the >> > >>>> iphone can not find any bluetooth devises: it keeps saying >> > >>>> "searching" >> > >>>> but nothing appears >> > >>>> >> > >>>> Isaac Obie wrote: >> > >>>>> Hello Sonia, >> > >>>>> If you look in your Apex tutorial, after Options, then u for >> > >>>>> user >> > >>>>> guide, in >> > >>>>> there somewhere it should cover pairing wi
Re: Iphone and braille note apex
Hello Sonia, The keyboard was one of the wireless keyboards they use in the Apple sore. It worked with the iphone nicely, but not with a combination iphone and braille display. More research is needed on this though. Isaac - Original Message - From: "Sonnia" To: "MacVisionaries" Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 10:39 PM Subject: Re: Iphone and braille note apex Hello Isaac. I have not been able to try with more than one input device at once so sorry, i have no clue how to take care of that issue. But what keyboard were you trying to connect the iphone to? i was thinking about getting a folding bluetooth keyboard (or one of that size whether it folds or not) for my phone but don't know which keyboards work. I want to find one as small as possible so i could keep the phone and tiny keyboard in a small pouch like thing, whatever works... Isaac Obie wrote: Hello Sonia, Congratulations! That Apex is supposed to behave and connect like charm! After all, this is HumanWare's latest bonus baby! So I guess you'll have to figure something out. One thing I learned today is that the iphone 4 seems only able to handle one input device at a time. I wanted to connect a braille display and a keyboard. It wouldn't do it! The guy helping me said he was going to need to talk to the genius bar guys about this one. Have you or anyone else run across this issue? Thanks. Isaac - Original Message - From: "Sonnia" To: "MacVisionaries" Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 9:14 PM Subject: Re: Iphone and braille note apex > Well i managed to connect the iphone to another braille display (its > one i rarely use because its clunky but at least i know how to pair > now!) the iphone can not load the apex drivers so i may need to call > apple or humanware and see what the next step would be > > Isaac Obie wrote: >> Hello Sonia, >> I've just come from the Apple Store. I hooked up a brailleconnect12 to >> the >> iphine 4. Now it isn't easy to do this. there'are several steps >> that're >> not >> spoken. You really need the expert assistance of the Apple people. So >> why >> don't you let it rest a while and plan to go to your local Apple store >> and >> let them help you with it??? >> Just a suggestion. Obviously you're not getting something right in the >> setup >> process. >> I didn't try to do it alone. I had the Apple guys do it! It worked >> well. >> Isaac >> - Original Message - >> From: "Sonnia" >> To: "MacVisionaries" >> Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 12:59 PM >> Subject: Re: Iphone and braille note apex >> >> >> > Update: my brother has an iphone and i turned voice over and >> > bluetooth >> > on and it couldn't find the apex either. >> > >> > Sonnia wrote: >> >> Hi, I can't search for the apex on my iPhone. I go to settings/ >> >> bluetooth on/searching... and it keeps saying "searching" but >> >> nothing >> >> else comes on the screen, no list of what devices it finds. and >> >> bluetooth on the apex and iphone are both turned on >> >> Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: >> >> > Hi. >> >> > >> >> > Normally the code for bluetooth devices is or 1234, so it >> >> > was a >> >> > guess. But I think you can find it in the manual for the apex. >> >> > >> >> > Best regards Annie. >> >> > On Aug 7, 2010, at 3:31 PM, Isaac Obie wrote: >> >> > >> >> > > Hello Annie, >> >> > > How did you find this pascode? I've been searching for it for >> >> > > quite a >> >> > > while. Thanks. >> >> > > Isaac >> >> > > - Original Message - From: "Annie Skov Nielsen" >> >> > > >> >> > > To: >> >> > > Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 8:46 AM >> >> > > Subject: Re: Iphone and braille note apex >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> Hi. >> >> > >> >> >> > >> Yes the apex is supported. >> >> > >> >> >> > >> Be sure that bluetooth is turned on on your IPhone. >> >> > >> >> >> > >> You will have to search for the apex from your IPhone. I think >> >> > >> the >> >> > >> code is or 1234. IF you need further assistance please >> >> > >
Re: Igo stoway keyboard plus iphone4
Hello Sonia, I have a braillenote mpower, a braillino notetaker and the brailleconnect12. I am finding that I am using my notetakers less and less. I can't pair the braillino with the iphone 4. It doesn't support it. The iphone 4 might be a lighter notetaker Who knows at this point? I will have to see how much I use it when and if I get one. Isaac - Original Message - From: "Sonnia" To: "MacVisionaries" Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 8:19 PM Subject: Igo stoway keyboard plus iphone4 Hi all. I came across a video on youtube of someone pairing a stowaway folding keyboard with the iphone4 and apparently it worked. In my quest for a keyboarding solution i was considering that keyboard, has anyone used it? If only braille displays weren't so expenssive. a braille connect 12 is so small it would work well but as i have a note taker and the connect 12 is pricey, i'm sticking to a qwerty keyboard! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Igo stoway keyboard plus iphone4
Hi Sonia, I am giving that iphone some serious consideration since I bought the brailleconnect12 with a cellphone in mind. I wish I could find a manual for the iphone 4. Know of any? I have a fair manual for the Mac running version 10.6.4 from a place called "Adaptations in San Frnncisco, but I don't know if they have any for iphones. What happened to the voice sense and sync braille? Isaac - Original Message - From: "Sonnia" To: "MacVisionaries" Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 11:47 PM Subject: Re: Igo stoway keyboard plus iphone4 @ Aman Singer: is the logitech compatible with the iphone 4? Isaac, i am really liking my iphone so if you are interested, you should get one. I've had pretty bad luck with assistive tech before so this is the first accessible cell phone I've ever used. I've got the braillenote apex, a braillex display which i barely use (and the company i got it from is out of business because i can't find them anywhere) That's unfortunate they were helpfull. About a couple of years back i got a voice sense plus sync braille and they both bailed out on me and are unusable. I can't convince myself its worth it to buy a tiny refreshable display with my college student budget although i want one just for my new phone! Aman Singer wrote: Hi. I have used both the original Stowaway keyboard and the Sierra model (the one with the number row), and both work well. However, I don't think either is currently available new, you may want to go to Ebay or one of the other used markets for them. Note, of course, that these keyboards are by no means unique in their bluetooth functions, there are many other bluetooth keyboards, some even smaller than the stowaway models, like the Logitech Dinovo Mini. HTH. Aman -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sonnia Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 8:20 PM To: MacVisionaries Subject: Igo stoway keyboard plus iphone4 Hi all. I came across a video on youtube of someone pairing a stowaway folding keyboard with the iphone4 and apparently it worked. In my quest for a keyboarding solution i was considering that keyboard, has anyone used it? If only braille displays weren't so expenssive. a braille connect 12 is so small it would work well but as i have a note taker and the connect 12 is pricey, i'm sticking to a qwerty keyboard! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Iphone 4 manual
Hi Sonia, No m essage came through. Isaac - Original Message - From: "Sonnia" To: "MacVisionaries" Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 12:01 PM Subject: Iphone 4 manual Isaac Obie wrote: Hi Sonia, I am giving that iphone some serious consideration since I bought the brailleconnect12 with a cellphone in mind. I wish I could find a manual for the iphone 4. Know of any? I have a fair manual for the Mac running version 10.6.4 from a place called "Adaptations in San Frnncisco, but I don't know if they have any for iphones. What happened to the voice sense and sync braille? Isaac - Original Message - From: "Sonnia" To: "MacVisionaries" Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 11:47 PM Subject: Re: Igo stoway keyboard plus iphone4 >@ Aman Singer: is the logitech compatible with the iphone 4? Isaac, i > am really liking my iphone so if you are interested, you should get > one. I've had pretty bad luck with assistive tech before so this is > the first accessible cell phone I've ever used. I've got the > braillenote apex, a braillex display which i barely use (and the > company i got it from is out of business because i can't find them > anywhere) > That's unfortunate they were helpfull. About a couple of years back i > got a voice sense plus sync braille and they both bailed out on me and > are unusable. I can't convince myself its worth it to buy a tiny > refreshable display with my college student budget although i want one > just for my new phone! > Aman Singer wrote: >> Hi. >> I have used both the original Stowaway keyboard and the Sierra model >> (the one with the number row), and both work well. However, I don't >> think >> either is currently available new, you may want to go to Ebay or one >> of >> the >> other used markets for them. Note, of course, that these keyboards are >> by >> no >> means unique in their bluetooth functions, there are many other >> bluetooth >> keyboards, some even smaller than the stowaway models, like the >> Logitech >> Dinovo Mini. >> HTH. >> Aman >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sonnia >> Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 8:20 PM >> To: MacVisionaries >> Subject: Igo stoway keyboard plus iphone4 >> >> Hi all. I came across a video on youtube of someone pairing a stowaway >> folding keyboard with the iphone4 and apparently it worked. In my >> quest >> for >> a keyboarding solution i was considering that keyboard, has anyone >> used >> it? >> If only braille displays weren't so expenssive. a braille connect 12 >> is >> so >> small it would work well but as i have a note taker and the connect 12 >> is >> pricey, i'm sticking to a qwerty keyboard! >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > >@ Aman singer, thanks, that was helpful. :) I will go keyboard hunting >now... Isaac i am sending you a link to the user's manual for the >iPhone. It's on apple's site in html format. there is a pdf version but >i think this is more accessible. Enjoy! help.apple.com/iphone/3/voiceover/en It says 3 in the url but it describes how to use the phone very well, i think its for the 4g but the url was not changed because this is the only version of the manual on apple's site and they keep current. You might want to do a copy/paste in your address bar because my link isn't linking. :D Have a good day! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Iphone 4 manual
Sonia, that's right! the first message didn't have this url in it. thanks! Isaac - Original Message - From: "Sonnia" To: "MacVisionaries" Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 5:48 PM Subject: Re: Iphone 4 manual Do you mean you didn't get the link? i tried it out it works, just copy/paste the following in to your address bar: help.apple.com/iphone/3/voiceover/en Isaac Obie wrote: Hi Sonia, No m essage came through. Isaac - Original Message - From: "Sonnia" To: "MacVisionaries" Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 12:01 PM Subject: Iphone 4 manual > > > Isaac Obie wrote: >> Hi Sonia, >> I am giving that iphone some serious consideration since I bought the >> brailleconnect12 with a cellphone in mind. I wish I could find a >> manual >> for >> the iphone 4. Know of any? I have a fair manual for the Mac running >> version >> 10.6.4 from a place called "Adaptations in San Frnncisco, but I don't >> know >> if they have any for iphones. >> What happened to the voice sense and sync braille? >> Isaac >> - Original Message - >> From: "Sonnia" >> To: "MacVisionaries" >> Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 11:47 PM >> Subject: Re: Igo stoway keyboard plus iphone4 >> >> >> >@ Aman Singer: is the logitech compatible with the iphone 4? Isaac, i >> > am really liking my iphone so if you are interested, you should get >> > one. I've had pretty bad luck with assistive tech before so this is >> > the first accessible cell phone I've ever used. I've got the >> > braillenote apex, a braillex display which i barely use (and the >> > company i got it from is out of business because i can't find them >> > anywhere) >> > That's unfortunate they were helpfull. About a couple of years back >> > i >> > got a voice sense plus sync braille and they both bailed out on me >> > and >> > are unusable. I can't convince myself its worth it to buy a tiny >> > refreshable display with my college student budget although i want >> > one >> > just for my new phone! >> > Aman Singer wrote: >> >> Hi. >> >> I have used both the original Stowaway keyboard and the Sierra >> >> model >> >> (the one with the number row), and both work well. However, I don't >> >> think >> >> either is currently available new, you may want to go to Ebay or >> >> one >> >> of >> >> the >> >> other used markets for them. Note, of course, that these keyboards >> >> are >> >> by >> >> no >> >> means unique in their bluetooth functions, there are many other >> >> bluetooth >> >> keyboards, some even smaller than the stowaway models, like the >> >> Logitech >> >> Dinovo Mini. >> >> HTH. >> >> Aman >> >> >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> >> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sonnia >> >> Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 8:20 PM >> >> To: MacVisionaries >> >> Subject: Igo stoway keyboard plus iphone4 >> >> >> >> Hi all. I came across a video on youtube of someone pairing a >> >> stowaway >> >> folding keyboard with the iphone4 and apparently it worked. In my >> >> quest >> >> for >> >> a keyboarding solution i was considering that keyboard, has anyone >> >> used >> >> it? >> >> If only braille displays weren't so expenssive. a braille connect >> >> 12 >> >> is >> >> so >> >> small it would work well but as i have a note taker and the connect >> >> 12 >> >> is >> >> pricey, i'm sticking to a qwerty keyboard! >> >> >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> >> Groups >> >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> >> To post to this group, send email to >> >> macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> >> For more options, visit this group at >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > >> > -- >> > You received this message because you ar
Re: Gizmodo: Giz Explains: How Blind People See the Internet
Jerry, How do I find the article listed in this email? I went online but I can't find the article? What might I be doing wrong or not doing? thanks Isaac - Original Message - From: "Brett Campbell" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 5:51 PM Subject: Gizmodo: Giz Explains: How Blind People See the Internet I thought some in the group might find this article interesting. Gizmodo: Giz Explains: How Blind People See the Internet http://gizmodo.com/5620079/ Brett C. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iwork
Hello Anne, Is there a demo of iworks 09? Where might it be? Thanks. Isaac - Original Message - From: "Anne Robertson" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 10:19 AM Subject: Re: iwork Hello Scott, You can get the information about font (type, size, colour) with VO-t in Pages, despite the fact that the Find Next whatever commands don't work and the same information doesn't show up in the status cells on a Braille display. I hope these problems get fixed in iWork10 as I use it all the time. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iphone recording quality
Hello Paul, Phone quality can vary from unit to unit as well as from company to company. I've heard the iphone and I am not impressed with it's sound quality. My Samsung has much better quality imho. So this is one I think you need to judge for yourself. My local Apple store has iphones in stock! Isaac - Original Message - From: Paul Erkens To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 8:33 AM Subject: iphone recording quality Hi list, How is the audio recording quality of the iphone? Once I get my iphone, I'm hoping it will record in 44.1 kilo hertz 16 bit, just like my Nokia does when I record. Is an iphone recording crystal clear, or does it sound more like telephone quality? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
scroll areas
Hi all: I get a list of messages in a scroll area. After I read one, I can't figure out how to get back to the original area in order to arrow down to the next message to read. I've tried command W and command Q and when I reopen the area, I am sent back to the same old message. What might I be doing wrong? Thanks. Isaac -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: scroll areas
Hi Colin! No, that didn't help. I guess I need to check out the mail program again. This is Apple news that I am trying to read. then I need to do email. again. I'll have class on Wednesday. Thanks. Isaac - Original Message - From: "focus" To: Cc: "focus" Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 5:16 AM Subject: Re: scroll areas Hi Isaac! If you are talking about email's When you are in the message table where it tells you who the message is from and subject, you can use command+j to jump into the message area and when you have red it use command+j again to take you back to the headers, and then you can scroll up or down to the next message! If you are not on about emails I do not know if this works for what you are trying to do! anyway I hth :-] Colin Skype focus_66 On 6 Sep 2010, at 08:21, Isaac Obie wrote: Hi all: I get a list of messages in a scroll area. After I read one, I can't figure out how to get back to the original area in order to arrow down to the next message to read. I've tried command W and command Q and when I reopen the area, I am sent back to the same old message. What might I be doing wrong? Thanks. Isaac -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
can I change subscription to this list?
Hi guys: Since this is a list of invitation only, is it possible to change your subscription once you're on? Thanks. Isaac -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: can I change subscription to this list?
Geoff, I tried to apply for membership but I can't seem to get it to work for some reason. Can you help please? I've tried this several times. thanks! Isaac - Original Message - From: Geoff Waaler To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 12:01 PM Subject: Re: can I change subscription to this list? Isaac, Check the bottom couple lines appended to every GoogleGroups list message. HTH. Geoff - Original Message - From: Isaac Obie To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 7:26 AM Subject: can I change subscription to this list? Hi guys: Since this is a list of invitation only, is it possible to change your subscription once you're on? Thanks. Isaac -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: IOS 4.1, blutooth keyboard and the iPod Touch as a notetaker for school?
Hello Sandy, We already have an affordable braille display called "Refredhable Braille" from American Printing House for Blind for $1,600 with 18 cells. That's the most affordable I've seen yet! Isaac - Original Message - From: "Sandy Tomkins" To: Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 1:19 PM Subject: Re: IOS 4.1, blutooth keyboard and the iPod Touch as a notetaker for school? Hi, I have been sending notes via email to an email list while I am on my holidays. The issue of the subject line containing the whole message is easily overcome if you just start your note with a suitable title and then press return a couple of times as if composing a new paragraph. This seems to work for me. When I haven't done this, I just make sure to take the cursor, double tapping when in the edit field, and holding down the backspace on lmy think outside keyboard, till I hear the empty box sort of sound that the iPhone makes when you have reached the end or the beginning of something. I really do think this will be tyhe way to go re note taking etc. Plus, there are programs like Readdledocs, which I do have, but haven't got to grips with yet, but feel sure it will make editing and moving docs between the iphone and a P.C./Mac even more efficient. At the moment, as I have not, and can't, supdate my iphone's os to 4.1 which should improve my control of the edit fields of the iphone via the keyboard, I am still having difficulty editing, but anticipate improvements when I get logged onto a good internet connection and can upgrade! As far as Braille displays are concerned, within the year we should see something really radicle and more affordable coming onto the market! All the best from balmy Italia! Sandy. Sent from my iPhone On 13 Sep 2010, at 17:44, Justin Thornton wrote: hi is there actually a word processor yet or something better than notes that lets you edit on the phone and veiw documents that would be a great note taker On Sep 12, 2010, at 5:50 PM, Allison Manzino wrote: Hi all, Thank you for posting this question. I was wondering the same thing. But I never thought it was possible. As my BrailleNote is slowly dying, I may need to use the Iphone as an option for work. I didn't realize you could E-mail notes from your Iphone. THat is pretty cool. I will have to try this one day. I was just thinking about how neat it would be to pair the Iphone with a BLuetooth keyboard and Braille display. Now that would be amazing. I love watching how this new technology is going to develop and open so many new doors that were previously closed to us. Have a great evening. Musically, Allison My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar! On Sep 12, 2010, at 5:25 PM, Ryan Mann wrote: The title of the notes show up in the subject line, but the rest of the notes are in the body of the message. For example, if you add a new note and you put the word "schedule" in the top of the document, that will be in the subject line. Whatever you put below the word "schedule" will be in the body of the message. You can paste that into TextEdit and save it. On Sep 12, 2010, at 2:25 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: You can email notes to yourself but I believe they will show up all in the subject line or something. that part still confuses me. Take care. On Sep 12, 2010, at 8:24 AM, Kimberly thurman wrote: Good morning folks: The subject line pretty much says it all, except for one thing. Suppose I use this as a notetaker, can I transfer the notes to my Macbook and open them in Text Edit or Pages? Is this done through iTunes? I don't suppose you can E-mail them as attachments from the iPod Touch, or maybe you can? Thoughts and comments appreciated. This set up would most definitely be much lighter than even my 13 inch MBP. :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Ryan Mann rmann0...@gmail.com Follow me on Facebook. http://m.facebook.com/profile.php?r170f8385&refid=7 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google
Re: IOS 4.1, blutooth keyboard and the iPod Touch as a notetaker for school?
Simon, When I tried Pages in Apple class, I didn't find it so accessible. what eid we do wrong? We found textedit much easier to use. Isaac - Original Message - From: "Simon Fogarty" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 3:03 AM Subject: RE: IOS 4.1, blutooth keyboard and the iPod Touch as a notetaker for school? There is a word processor called pages, it is very accessible and very cheap, and also works with word documents as well. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Justin Thornton Sent: Tuesday, 14 September 2010 3:45 a.m. To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IOS 4.1, blutooth keyboard and the iPod Touch as a notetaker for school? hi is there actually a word processor yet or something better than notes that lets you edit on the phone and veiw documents that would be a great note taker On Sep 12, 2010, at 5:50 PM, Allison Manzino wrote: Hi all, Thank you for posting this question. I was wondering the same thing. But I never thought it was possible. As my BrailleNote is slowly dying, I may need to use the Iphone as an option for work. I didn't realize you could E-mail notes from your Iphone. THat is pretty cool. I will have to try this one day. I was just thinking about how neat it would be to pair the Iphone with a BLuetooth keyboard and Braille display. Now that would be amazing. I love watching how this new technology is going to develop and open so many new doors that were previously closed to us. Have a great evening. Musically, Allison My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar! On Sep 12, 2010, at 5:25 PM, Ryan Mann wrote: The title of the notes show up in the subject line, but the rest of the notes are in the body of the message. For example, if you add a new note and you put the word "schedule" in the top of the document, that will be in the subject line. Whatever you put below the word "schedule" will be in the body of the message. You can paste that into TextEdit and save it. On Sep 12, 2010, at 2:25 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: You can email notes to yourself but I believe they will show up all in the subject line or something. that part still confuses me. Take care. On Sep 12, 2010, at 8:24 AM, Kimberly thurman wrote: Good morning folks: The subject line pretty much says it all, except for one thing. Suppose I use this as a notetaker, can I transfer the notes to my Macbook and open them in Text Edit or Pages? Is this done through iTunes? I don't suppose you can E-mail them as attachments from the iPod Touch, or maybe you can? Thoughts and comments appreciated. This set up would most definitely be much lighter than even my 13 inch MBP. :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Ryan Mann rmann0...@gmail.com Follow me on Facebook. http://m.facebook.com/profile.php?r170f8385&refid=7 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/gr
pairing a braillenote with the mac?
Hi guys: How does one pair a braillenote with the Mac? We almost got it but we're missing something. It says paired, then it drops the ball for some reason. We got it to find three macs! thanks. Isaac -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: pairing a braillenote with the mac?
Scott, We did perform these steps.. I have the braillenote mpower bt18 and it's one of the last units built. It has the updted braille display with the metal cursor routing buttons. It paired, but it didn't hold it. If you want to discuss off list you need to send me your email. coac...@verizon.net thanks Isaac - Original Message - From: Scott Howell To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 2:20 PM Subject: Re: pairing a braillenote with the mac? Isaac, You can perform the pairing via SYstem Preferences as you discovered and then use the Braille tab in the VOiceOver Utility (vo-f8) to add the device via bluetooth. If you have performed these steps, please advise. In fact if you would tell me which display you have, its age, and any other details about it, I would really appreciate this information. I have had a problem paring a new Brailliant 40 and I have an open report with APple. I would like to know all the steps including the info about the display, so that I may include it if appropriate. Please contact me off list if you prefer. Thanks, On Sep 26, 2010, at 1:10 PM, Isaac Obie wrote: Hi guys: How does one pair a braillenote with the Mac? We almost got it but we're missing something. It says paired, then it drops the ball for some reason. We got it to find three macs! thanks. Isaac -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: pairing a braillenote with the mac?
Alllison, My braillino pairs easily and it holds the pairing nicely! We have no trouble with that one. It's the braillenote that we have trouble with. But you know the braillino has these tripple action keys? those drive me nuts at times. I don't like them. I wanted to pair the braillenote to see how it works. I may have to call HumanWare on this one. You will need to use your computer to load files on the braillino. so if you want to take it with you to the doc's office, you will have to load the files beforehand. So good luck with it! Isaac - Original Message - From: Allison Manzino To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 6:53 PM Subject: Re: pairing a braillenote with the mac? Hi Isaac, I'm glad I'm not the only one who is having this problem. I thought I was doing something wrong. I can't wait for my Braillino. I will post if it pairs easily and holds the pairing after I get it. Thank you again. Musically, Allison My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar! On Sep 26, 2010, at 5:45 PM, Isaac Obie wrote: Scott, We did perform these steps.. I have the braillenote mpower bt18 and it's one of the last units built. It has the updted braille display with the metal cursor routing buttons. It paired, but it didn't hold it. If you want to discuss off list you need to send me your email. coac...@verizon.net thanks Isaac - Original Message - From: Scott Howell To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 2:20 PM Subject: Re: pairing a braillenote with the mac? Isaac, You can perform the pairing via SYstem Preferences as you discovered and then use the Braille tab in the VOiceOver Utility (vo-f8) to add the device via bluetooth. If you have performed these steps, please advise. In fact if you would tell me which display you have, its age, and any other details about it, I would really appreciate this information. I have had a problem paring a new Brailliant 40 and I have an open report with APple. I would like to know all the steps including the info about the display, so that I may include it if appropriate. Please contact me off list if you prefer. Thanks, On Sep 26, 2010, at 1:10 PM, Isaac Obie wrote: Hi guys: How does one pair a braillenote with the Mac? We almost got it but we're missing something. It says paired, then it drops the ball for some reason. We got it to find three macs! thanks. Isaac -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: pairing a braillenote with the mac?
Hi allison, I was wondering if because my braillenote is part of the dbc(deaf-blind communicator) had anything to do with the lack of pairing. I didn't know you had to put it in terminal mode. I'll try that next when the teacher and I have time. He's trying to get me setup to do email now. Hopefully, we'll be able to do this real soon. Your braillino has four nicad batteries. You can change your own batteries and your own software. but you have no speech! It has an olboard manual just like the braillenote, but not quite as intrusive. But you'lll enjoy it probably. All the best and I'll let you know if I can pair that braillenote dbc. Thanks. Isaac - Original Message - From: Allison Manzino To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 7:24 PM Subject: Re: pairing a braillenote with the mac? Hi Isaac, THank you so much for your reply. I found that with the BrailleNote, you need to turn bluetooth on first, and then put it in to terminal mode. After that is completed, try pairing it again. THis is the only way I found that works. Unfortunately, the display on mine is going, and the battery is too. It requires a reset, now it won't pair at all. Some of the HumanWare staff have Macs. THey were very helpful when I called. Would you mind letting me know what happens? I'd be interested to see if you get the BrailleNote to work. THank you again for all the great information about the Braillino. I will hopefully have mine tomorrow. Have a great evening. Musically, Allison My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar! On Sep 26, 2010, at 7:01 PM, Isaac Obie wrote: Alllison, My braillino pairs easily and it holds the pairing nicely! We have no trouble with that one. It's the braillenote that we have trouble with. But you know the braillino has these tripple action keys? those drive me nuts at times. I don't like them. I wanted to pair the braillenote to see how it works. I may have to call HumanWare on this one. You will need to use your computer to load files on the braillino. so if you want to take it with you to the doc's office, you will have to load the files beforehand. So good luck with it! Isaac - Original Message - From: Allison Manzino To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 6:53 PM Subject: Re: pairing a braillenote with the mac? Hi Isaac, I'm glad I'm not the only one who is having this problem. I thought I was doing something wrong. I can't wait for my Braillino. I will post if it pairs easily and holds the pairing after I get it. Thank you again. Musically, Allison My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar! On Sep 26, 2010, at 5:45 PM, Isaac Obie wrote: Scott, We did perform these steps.. I have the braillenote mpower bt18 and it's one of the last units built. It has the updted braille display with the metal cursor routing buttons. It paired, but it didn't hold it. If you want to discuss off list you need to send me your email. coac...@verizon.net thanks Isaac - Original Message - From: Scott Howell To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 2:20 PM Subject: Re: pairing a braillenote with the mac? Isaac, You can perform the pairing via SYstem Preferences as you discovered and then use the Braille tab in the VOiceOver Utility (vo-f8) to add the device via bluetooth. If you have performed these steps, please advise. In fact if you would tell me which display you have, its age, and any other details about it, I would really appreciate this information. I have had a problem paring a new Brailliant 40 and I have an open report with APple. I would like to know all the steps including the info about the display, so that I may include it if appropriate. Please contact me off list if you prefer. Thanks, On Sep 26, 2010, at 1:10 PM, Isaac Obie wrote: Hi guys: How does one pair a braillenote with the Mac? We almost got it but we're missing something. It says paired, then it drops the ball for some reason. We got it to find three macs! thanks. Isaac -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscrib
Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver
Hi Kawal, Frankly, I don't like programs like MS Word because it's too big for what I want to do. It's huge, clumsy and plain a pain in the posterior. I love notepad! I think Notepad can do all I want including cleaning up a file. Now when I really get in to the Mac I think Text edit might do the trick. I honestly don't know yet. Maybe Esther's "Simplenote" might do it. I'll have to explore that at some point. Isaac - Original Message - From: "Kawal Gucukoglu" To: Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 4:27 AM Subject: Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver I too will be switching to I works rather than working with Microsoft Products in the future. Kawal Gucukoglu On 27 Sep 2010, at 12:53 AM, gkearney wrote: It is interesting to note that the ribbons were accessible, much of the user interface is as well. It is the main content areas that are not accessible. Greg On Sep 27, 6:16 am, "Dave Taylor" wrote: I bet that if they tried, they would soon realise that the ribbons would be difficult if not impossible to implement with VO anyway. As it is, their insistence on these awful things is one of my key drivers for making the switch, though there are many others too. Mike, the podcast where you install Snow Leopard is as good a demonstration as anything of how far things have come on the Mac side, I'm afraid it is the opposite story, almost the reverse story, on the windows side! Cheers Dave -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Arrigo Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 11:03 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver I don't think he said it was a beta. It is very disappointing indeed, really, Microsoft has no excuse for this one, it's not like they were not aware of accessibility and voice over, they just chose not to do anything with it. Apple has created a built in screen reader and provided the APIs to make programs accessible, Microsoft has definitely shown their interest in this. At least on the mac, there are alternatives that will handle Microsoft Office files, namely iwork and open office. On Sep 26, 2010, at 3:18 PM, M. Taylor wrote: Hello Greg, Thank you so much for providing this info. I cannot begin to relay how sad and disappointed I am at the news of Microsoft's Office 2011 VoiceOver inaccessibility. Wow! You know, when I installed the very first beta of Windows 7, it was completely accessible. That is to say, as soon as one launched the installation program for Windows 7, a very clear voice prompt asked if audio assistance was required. This came as a total surprise to me, to say the least. I answered in the affirmative and was able to install Windows 7 without any sighted assistance, whatsoever. I installed that first beta on three of my computers. By the way, the voice that was used to guide me through the setup was not that of Narrator--it was much clearer. Astonishingly, with the release of the next beta of Windows 7, this feature was removed. I was shocked, disappointed, and angry, to say the least. It was then that I began considering purchasing a Macintosh. It's been much too long to recall how I came to learn Microsoft's reason for removing this feature but they said they removed it for security concerns; to which I exclaim, "TommyRot!" Or, to put it in the vernacular, "That's a load of crap" Greg, is it possible that the final release of Office 2011 will be VoiceOver accessible? I mean, you reviewed a beta, did you not? Perhaps I'm just grasping at straws, eh? (Smile) Thanks again for giving us a proverbial "heads-up" on this one. Most Sincerely, mark - -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Greg Kearney Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 1:22 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com; macvoiceo...@freelists.org; Mary Beth Janes; Mike Shebanek Subject: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver It is my sad duty to report that after getting a chance to test Microsoft Office 2011 for Mac that it is no more accessible in this version than in any of the previous versions. As in the past it is impossible to interact with any of the content areas of the program. You are not able to review, read or edit the text area in Word or Excel. It should not be clear to all that Microsoft has no intention of ever fixing these issues. I communicated directly with Microsoft over the same failing in Office 2008. The fact that after a complete rewire of the programs they remain inaccessible to the built in screen reader of the OS to me speak volumes about Microsoft's total lack of commitment to accessibility on the Macintosh platform and may well speak to Microsoft's general commitment to the platform as well. Gregory Kearney | Manager Accessible Media Association for the Blind of
Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver
Hi Rose, do you have any tylenol or Leave? I got a headache readin' your dissertation on MS Word! I don't really need a spellchecker! I honestly don't! If I have any typos it's because my fingers didn't press hard enough! I have Word97 on all my windows machines. I use it mostly to convert .doc files to text files for my notetakers. all I ever write mostly is grocery lists and letters and they're not fancy letters either! Plain text and straight to the point! I'll be doing the same with the mac! Rose, do you have stock in Microsoft? How many shares? how much are they going for today? About sixty bucks a share? I am guessing You sound like you went to business management school. I've never seen such a dissertation on an office suite before! I had to read it to the end. Not even Ester and Anne robbinson talk in such depth! Whew! I think I'll take four more tylenols! :) :) I am going to save this one! this is a keeper! Isaac - Original Message - From: "Rose Morales" To: Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 8:15 AM Subject: Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver The problem with something like Notepad is that notepad can only write text files. This is fine if you're just looking to jot down a note or ten. Hence the name notepad, :). MS Word is designed to let you format your text. Now, one could use Wordpad, but that doesn't have a spellchecker. Furthermore, MS Word is able to handle some pretty advanced word processing features: indices, table of contents, table of figures, table of authorities, outlines, bulleted lists, subdocuments, styles, track changes, tables, charts, simple excel calculations and formulas, mail merge, envelope labeling, and probably more I'm not thinking of. WHile your average MS Word user might not even know half of these features exist, there are others who simply cannot live without them. Personally, having taken a course in Office, I can certainly appreciate the idea of MS Word for mac. An awesome word processor on an even more awesome OS? That sounds lovely. Too bad that won't happen for awhile. With that being said, let's look at some of Pages notable features: numerous preloaded templates, the ability to create custom templates, easy insertion of headers and footers, styles, track changes, mail merge, footnotes, endnotes, bookmarks, tables, charts, and formulas. And Pages has the ability to export not only to word documents but epub, rtf, PDF, and html. You can't save as .docx yet, which is a pity, but you can open .docx files just fine. I'm not saying all this to suggest that everyone immediately love Pages. We can all agree it lacks some features which word has. Honestly, my first instinct is to fire up Word when I'm doing some intense document writing and editing. And I'm a hard core Mac girl. For my every day writing, I use Text Edit, and I love it. I call it WOrdpad on steroids because Wordpad doesn't have a spellchecker, the ability to save to PDF, or the ability to implement basic styles. At any rate, what I am suggesting is that we as Mac users (those of us with Pages at least) step back and say, okay, Pages isn't word. But what can it offer me? Is there some word processing I could be doing in Pages which I previously only did in Word? And if we don't know the answer, why not try creating that document in Pages when we're not on a time crunch? We might just surprise ourselves. In an effort to remain objective, I will also take the opportunity to include this link in my post. It is to Pages reviews on macupdate.com. http://www.macupdate.com/reviews.php?id=17494 On Sep 27, 2010, at 5:51 AM, ISAAC OBIE wrote: Hi Kawal, Frankly, I don't like programs like MS Word because it's too big for what I want to do. It's huge, clumsy and plain a pain in the posterior. I love notepad! I think Notepad can do all I want including cleaning up a file. Now when I really get in to the Mac I think Text edit might do the trick. I honestly don't know yet. Maybe Esther's "Simplenote" might do it. I'll have to explore that at some point. Isaac - Original Message - From: "Kawal Gucukoglu" To: Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 4:27 AM Subject: Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver I too will be switching to I works rather than working with Microsoft Products in the future. Kawal Gucukoglu On 27 Sep 2010, at 12:53 AM, gkearney wrote: It is interesting to note that the ribbons were accessible, much of the user interface is as well. It is the main content areas that are not accessible. Greg On Sep 27, 6:16 am, "Dave Taylor" wrote: I bet that if they tried, they would soon realise that the ribbons would be difficult if not impossible to implement with VO anyway. As it is, their insistence on these awful things is one of my k
Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver
Hi, You have three choices: 1. Text Edit, 2. Pages. 3. Iworks! and read Rose Morales' note. It's excellent! Isaac - Original Message - From: "Cheree Heppe" To: Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 10:28 AM Subject: Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver Cheree Heppe here: Notepad isn't enough for me, so I am hoping that the Apple alternative to Office is comparable. Regards, Cheree Heppe - Original Message - From: "ISAAC OBIE" To: Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 2:51 AM Subject: Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver Hi Kawal, Frankly, I don't like programs like MS Word because it's too big for what I want to do. It's huge, clumsy and plain a pain in the posterior. I love notepad! I think Notepad can do all I want including cleaning up a file. Now when I really get in to the Mac I think Text edit might do the trick. I honestly don't know yet. Maybe Esther's "Simplenote" might do it. I'll have to explore that at some point. Isaac - Original Message - From: "Kawal Gucukoglu" To: Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 4:27 AM Subject: Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver I too will be switching to I works rather than working with Microsoft Products in the future. Kawal Gucukoglu On 27 Sep 2010, at 12:53 AM, gkearney wrote: It is interesting to note that the ribbons were accessible, much of the user interface is as well. It is the main content areas that are not accessible. Greg On Sep 27, 6:16 am, "Dave Taylor" wrote: I bet that if they tried, they would soon realise that the ribbons would be difficult if not impossible to implement with VO anyway. As it is, their insistence on these awful things is one of my key drivers for making the switch, though there are many others too. Mike, the podcast where you install Snow Leopard is as good a demonstration as anything of how far things have come on the Mac side, I'm afraid it is the opposite story, almost the reverse story, on the windows side! Cheers Dave -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Arrigo Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 11:03 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver I don't think he said it was a beta. It is very disappointing indeed, really, Microsoft has no excuse for this one, it's not like they were not aware of accessibility and voice over, they just chose not to do anything with it. Apple has created a built in screen reader and provided the APIs to make programs accessible, Microsoft has definitely shown their interest in this. At least on the mac, there are alternatives that will handle Microsoft Office files, namely iwork and open office. On Sep 26, 2010, at 3:18 PM, M. Taylor wrote: Hello Greg, Thank you so much for providing this info. I cannot begin to relay how sad and disappointed I am at the news of Microsoft's Office 2011 VoiceOver inaccessibility. Wow! You know, when I installed the very first beta of Windows 7, it was completely accessible. That is to say, as soon as one launched the installation program for Windows 7, a very clear voice prompt asked if audio assistance was required. This came as a total surprise to me, to say the least. I answered in the affirmative and was able to install Windows 7 without any sighted assistance, whatsoever. I installed that first beta on three of my computers. By the way, the voice that was used to guide me through the setup was not that of Narrator--it was much clearer. Astonishingly, with the release of the next beta of Windows 7, this feature was removed. I was shocked, disappointed, and angry, to say the least. It was then that I began considering purchasing a Macintosh. It's been much too long to recall how I came to learn Microsoft's reason for removing this feature but they said they removed it for security concerns; to which I exclaim, "TommyRot!" Or, to put it in the vernacular, "That's a load of crap" Greg, is it possible that the final release of Office 2011 will be VoiceOver accessible? I mean, you reviewed a beta, did you not? Perhaps I'm just grasping at straws, eh? (Smile) Thanks again for giving us a proverbial "heads-up" on this one. Most Sincerely, mark - -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Greg Kearney Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 1:22 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com; macvoiceo...@freelists.org; Mary Beth Janes; Mike Shebanek Subject: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver It is my sad duty to report that after getting a chance to test Microsoft Office 2011 for Mac that it is no more accessible in this version than in any of the previous versio
to nicolai
Nicolai, Your messages are not opening for me. This has occurred several times this am. thanks. Isaac -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: to nicolai
Hi Ester, When I open the mail, all I see is a blank line and a cursor. I am not reading this with the Mac! I am reading it with Outlook Express windows xp. So what do I do? Thanks. Isaac - Original Message - From: Esther To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 11:01 AM Subject: Re: to nicolai Hi Isaac, It sounds as though you can't read the messages that Nic started sending with certification. These show up in my mailbox with an extra heading after "Reply to:" for his security certificate that says "Signed" with his email address. If I read his mail on my iPod Touch of iPad I'm not aware of the security certificate, but I can view this in the headings under Apple Mail if I choose to examine this on my Mac. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Oct 4, 2010, at 03:55, ISAAC OBIE wrote: Nicolai, Your messages are not opening for me. This has occurred several times this am. thanks. Isaac -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: to nicolai
Hi Ester, I saw the message "security help" then I tabbed once and the message eventually showed up after all that jazz about digitally signed messages. Thanks! Isaac who'd never seen this! - Original Message - From: Esther To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 11:01 AM Subject: Re: to nicolai Hi Isaac, It sounds as though you can't read the messages that Nic started sending with certification. These show up in my mailbox with an extra heading after "Reply to:" for his security certificate that says "Signed" with his email address. If I read his mail on my iPod Touch of iPad I'm not aware of the security certificate, but I can view this in the headings under Apple Mail if I choose to examine this on my Mac. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Oct 4, 2010, at 03:55, ISAAC OBIE wrote: Nicolai, Your messages are not opening for me. This has occurred several times this am. thanks. Isaac -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: voiceover manual for IOS4?
Hi all, Bookshare has many of David Pogue's books, but I am not finding any of them useful at all. I see no mention of voiceOver in them at all. I find them boring and really useless. the best I've found thus far is that voiceOver getting started manual or user guide and that's really a feference more than a manual. I wish there was an easy way to convert pdf files to text Isaac - Original Message - From: "cathyk" To: "MacVisionaries" Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 11:49 AM Subject: Re: voiceover manual for IOS4? Dear All, I agree with Erik: where is David Pogue's blind twin brother who could write us a "missing manual" for vo? Is there a way to create a macvisionaries wiki where people could contribute to a set of how- to's, maybe by beginning with a list of FAQs? I realize that macvisionaries archives probably contains a lot of valuable info, but wouldn't it be great to have the wisdom collected in one place and updated? I'd be happy to help in such an effort, with my main contribution being an endless string of pathetic newbie questions. But we all have to start somewhere, right? For more immediate help, Robert Carter of the Tech Doctor podcasts directed me to Mike Arrigo's podcasts on the ipod touch and vo at Blind Cool Tech: http://www.blindcooltech.com/ Best, cathyk On Oct 5, 7:58 am, erik burggraaf wrote: Thanks Esther, You wrote: The more useful accessible HTML version of the iPhone User Guide (that you can access from anywhere) is at:http://help.apple.com/iphone/4/voiceover/ This seems to be what I'm after, but it renders a page not found error. I did some googling and found a snippit of documentation which basicly outlined the voiceover gestures and nothing else. I have so many very basic newbie questions that any public forum will soon grow weary of answering them, so maybe I will try for the PDF manual. Thanks, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, One on one access technology support and training over the phone or in person, 1-888-255-5194http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2010-10-03, at 8:07 PM, Esther wrote: > Hi Erik, > There are two places to check for a manual on the iPod Touch. First, > there should be an iPod Touch User's Guide listed under the Safari > bookmarks of your iPod Touch. If you synched your bookmarks and overrode > the default definitions you can add the URL: >http://help.apple.com/ipodtouch/ > to your bookmarked locations (you only need to type in > "help.apple.com/ipodtouch/" and this address only works from an iPhone > or iPod Touch. Anywhere else (on an iPad, or on your computer), you'll > be taken to the Apple Support pages where you can find some link to a > PDF version of the user guides. > The more useful accessible HTML version of the iPhone User Guide (that > you can access from anywhere) is at: >http://help.apple.com/iphone/4/voiceover/ > (There's no special accessible HTML version for just the parts that > works for the iPod Touch) > Also, note the AppleVis web site for more information: >http://applevis.com/ > A nice summary of the iOS 4 Apple Keyboard shortcuts may be found at: >http://www.hllf.net/70 > if you use a Bluetooth keyboard with your iPod Touch. > HTH. Cheers, > Esther > On Oct 3, 2010, erik burggraaf wrote: >> OK guys, I've got my first ipod touch here. I can navigate around the >> screen, open apps and folders, sort of type on the slide type keyboard >> and so on. Not bad for an hour or two fiddling, but I need a manual or >> something, even if it stinks like the voiceover manual for Mac OS 10.6. >> Anybody know where I can get this? >> Thanks, >> Erik Burggraaf >> User support consultant, >> One on one access technology support and training over the phone or in >> person, >> 1-888-255-5194 >>http://www.erik-burggraaf.com > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Turning sound back on
Hello Ronald, I found it under audio in voiceover help menu, but it's only a toggle. I can't find the command for turning it on again. I once had this problem and I solved it by going up and down that list in braille... Perhaps Anne Robertson or Ester can help us out here. Isaac - Original Message - From: "RvR" To: Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 4:58 PM Subject: Turning sound back on Hello all, Just accidently turned off the sound on my Mac Pro by selecting no sound for the sound output probably ... stupid me. I couldn't get it back and have no Voice Over to guide me.. Is there a shortcut to change the sound output? Greatly appreciated! Ronald -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: please don't turn this in to a debate, just need information
Hello Heather, It's just like years ago I asked the state for Window Eyes. I was told, "We only have Jaws". So it was Jaws or nothing! So I got in the habit of buying my own equipment. But some states are giving Macs nowadays. I know one list member who received a Macbook pro and is extremely happy with it. So I guess sometimes it's where you're at the time. this person is seeking a job. So the Mac was to help in that endeavor. I have a mac mini which I bought. Now I am trying to help a friend find a Mac. The states will do as they please. I've come to accept that. Isaac - Original Message - From: heather kd5cbl To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 9:41 AM Subject: please don't turn this in to a debate, just need information I am a very knew Mac user and feel that our state rehab departments are favoring the windows based machines over the mac machines. Yes, our states have all the money to give there blind consumers all this adaptive technology while in school. However, after school, blind individuals struggle to keep their equipment up to date. I am trying to write a letter about the mac for blind consumers instead of jaws on a windows pc. I wanted to make the case that the states should not be so geared to window based machines for there blind consumers. I just don't no enough about OCR solutions for the Mac like we have Kurzweil1000 for windows. Also I am not sure about the braille translation programs for the macs as we have mega dots or Duxbury for the windows computers. Also, we use victor streams, eclipse reders and for our textbooks so if there is a Mac equivalent, I wanted to know about it. I am trying to convince our rehab department that they need to show both options to their consumers. I plan on submitting my letter at the end of the week to are rehab department. Thank you, Heather -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: CD burning options on the Mac and another Amadeus question
Erik, Where might I find Simply Burn? Thanks. Isaac - Original Message - From: "erik burggraaf" To: Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 12:41 PM Subject: Re: CD burning options on the Mac and another Amadeus question Hi John, There really is nothing like simply burns for cd's on the mac. It's really excellent. The only minor problem I have with it is that it hasn't been updated in a while. Best, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, One on one access technology support and training over the phone or in person, 1-888-255-5194 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2010-10-10, at 2:38 AM, John D. Lipsey wrote: Hi all: I want to burn several audio CD's. What is the best way to go about actually accomplishing this task? Someone suggested ITunes, but even if this is an option I don't really want to do that. I don't want to have to import the songs into my ITunes library, burn them, and then have to remove them again later. I want to just keep everything on my external. Also, has anyone successfully performed batch processing with Amadeus? AS I recall, it wants you to drag and drop files to add to the batch. Another work around, or step by step instructions on how to accomplish this task would be appreciated. Though if I can avoid dragging stuff around I'd prefer that. Thanks again all for the help. Soon I plan on asking less and helping more. :) -John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Can keyboard only navigation ever be...
Neil, why don't you wait a couple of weeks and try the Macbook pro before selling your laptop? You've intested lots of time setting it up... Give the Macbook pro a week or two first before selling your topnotch notebook... just a suggestion. Isaac - Original Message - From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 3:07 AM Subject: RE: Can keyboard only navigation ever be... Cara, indeed, I'm sitting here quote in hand for new Mac Book Pro, very closely monitoring the add to basket button... just need to justify the getting rid of my current PC laptop... anyone know anyone living in the UK who'd want a top spec windows PC... payment plan considered etc... write me off list for...@talknav.com regards. Twitter @neilbarnfather Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cara Quinn Sent: 12 October 2010 00:54 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Can keyboard only navigation ever be... Well Neil you'd better become a Mac / VO convert right quick! -or else! *flicks riding crop* lol! Seriously though; no worries on any of this. :) Perhaps we could take this one issue at a time. if you'd like, as there are a lot of great minds here, perhaps we can go point by point on solutions for things you'd like to do. -Yes, you and I chatted a bit about some possibilities, and perhaps others would be willing to chime in with specifics on actual tasks you'd like to accomplish and how you might go about it on the Mac. this would actually be quite beneficial for all of us, as I don't think any one of us individually, (except of course Esther) :) has the absolute and complete grasp of every single shortcut available to us as Mac users in our respective heads. :) So a little re-hash of all of the cool ways we can go about specific tasks could go a long way to giving all of us a bit of a refresher. -Just my thoughts. Have a terrific day / evening All!. Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Oct 11, 2010, at 6:49 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: Ricardo, F6, that be the resolution, instead of tabbing all the time with Windows and JAWS< let's take your iTunes example. using iTunes on my PC, as I do, I do the following. if I'm in the left tree of items, I start typing the name of say applications, after A P is typed I'm on that section, so now F6, this takes me instantly to the top of the area defining the view, then one more F6 and I'm in the list of applications. so that's two keys to get there not endless tab, tab, tab, again, all this goes to prove is that I need to learn more about Voice Over and who knows, with just a little more education I may change my view. but to say that with windows its endless tabbing, not so, F6, magic. Twitter @neilbarnfather Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker Sent: 11 October 2010 12:59 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Can keyboard only navigation ever be... Hi Neil, Correct. If your in an application or web page and someone gives you the physical placement of an item, you can find it on the track pad which gives you the layout similar to what a sighted person sees on the screen. Just like on the iPhone. This leads me into my comment. I don't think moving your hand from a keyboard to a trackpad to a number pad necessarily makes you slower. For example, If I'm in iTunes and I want to reach an item using JFW I might have to tab 4, 5, maybe 6 times. If I know the layout of iTunes on a Mac, I can just touch that location on my track pad. If your in an environment where you have to work side by side with sighted people this can really clear some communication hurdles. I thought just like you when I first made the switch. "Why do I have to press 4 keys to accomplish the same task the only took 1 finger with Jaws?" And it annoyed me. But then I realized that the number of keys 1 must press doesn't have a direct relationship to speed and or productivity. I also didn't like the concept of interacting with elements. This is before I completely understood it's advantages. Again, I use iTunes as an example. If you have your IOS device hooked up to your windows PC you go to the sources list and arrow down to your device. Same with the Mac. Then, on Windows, you tab and tab and tab. Then when you've reached the button you want like music, yo
Re: switching to the mac, snowlepard the missing manual and the voiceover guide
Hello Heather, If the .brf file is broken, then try the other one. I've forgotten the name. Oh, the daisy! try the daisy file. that is in braille as well. It even gives the print pages. Or is that the daisy with images? Try those files.. Isaac - Original Message - From: "heather kd5cbl" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 7:59 PM Subject: switching to the mac, snowlepard the missing manual and the voiceover guide Hello, these are two different books so I wanted to make that clear. One, apple accessibility fixed their Braille brf file so one can get off their site and read it now. Bookshare has not e-mail some of us back about the broken link for the switching to the mac, snowlepard the missing manual. We sent out a message about the issue a week ago but no one has replied back. So if there are bookshare members on this list, I wanted to encourage you to e-mail them as well. Perhaps if more folks send them messages, they will respond and with more blind mac users making the switch, it is in high demand. Heather -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Handytech
Hello Carolyn, Handytech now sells macs and when you buy one, you get their tutorial for Macs. they've developed a dvd that they sell for 470 for their training. they offer workshops as you mentioned. three day workshops on the mac. they seem to be expanding this all over the country. I hear there's one in Tennesee either this month or next. I have their braillino notetaker which I use with my mac. Isaac - Original Message - From: "Carolyn Haas" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 7:35 PM Subject: Handytech Hi guys: I decided to look more closely at the braille display options offered by handytech. While on their website, I learned that they have developed their own manual, workbook and tutorial, as well as a 3 day workshop for learning the mac with voiceover. I was kind of excited to learn this, as it's another possible resource,. And I love tracking things down. So, I'm wondering if anyone else has had any experiences with them, the workshop, or their products. They are beginning to take their workshop on the road to different states. It would be very cool to get involved with, if there were enough people in a state to request a workshop. Any info welcome. Carolyn chaas0...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Handytech
Well, your response certainly has the possibility of real truth because of the motives of people. I won't disagree with you. there's lots of politics in the whole issue. It's unfortunate, but there it is. Isaac - Original Message - From: "Cheree Heppe" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 9:16 PM Subject: Re: Handytech Cheree Heppe here: Yes, well and good for Handy Tech, but The Apple stores sells a service plan where anyone can get tutoring for $99.00 from any Apple store for I think two years, along with the hardware support plan. No special anything. They're just trying to tap into the current rehab-based, rather than the emerging community-based blindness access using the perceived requirements of a new paradigm. We have to allow ourselves into the mainstream community in the tech area, among others, in order to give real credence to our claims that we are not, after all, dependent on separate but equal, special, extra training by carefully selected experts, who thrive based on the separate is necessary modality. Regards, Cheree Heppe - Original Message - From: "Isaac Obie" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 5:19 PM Subject: Re: Handytech Hello Carolyn, Handytech now sells macs and when you buy one, you get their tutorial for Macs. they've developed a dvd that they sell for 470 for their training. they offer workshops as you mentioned. three day workshops on the mac. they seem to be expanding this all over the country. I hear there's one in Tennesee either this month or next. I have their braillino notetaker which I use with my mac. Isaac - Original Message - From: "Carolyn Haas" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 7:35 PM Subject: Handytech Hi guys: I decided to look more closely at the braille display options offered by handytech. While on their website, I learned that they have developed their own manual, workbook and tutorial, as well as a 3 day workshop for learning the mac with voiceover. I was kind of excited to learn this, as it's another possible resource,. And I love tracking things down. So, I'm wondering if anyone else has had any experiences with them, the workshop, or their products. They are beginning to take their workshop on the road to different states. It would be very cool to get involved with, if there were enough people in a state to request a workshop. Any info welcome. Carolyn chaas0...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Bringing back an iTunes library
Hi Colin, What library is this please? I haven't explored Itunes yet. That's next. Thanks. Isaac - Original Message - From: "Colin M" To: Cc: "Colin M" Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 7:35 AM Subject: Re: Bringing back an iTunes library Hi James! I can not be certain but on my hd in the Itunes I've got previous library I think they happened when I up graded Itunes, I never backed up my library either but they are there so it might be worth a look, it might not have everything but it could have a lot! hth Colin On 16 Oct 2010, at 12:23, James Malone wrote: Hmm. I didn't back it up or anything, so its not there. I guess this teaches me a lesson. And btw, yes, I am using a mac. On 16/10/2010, at 10:08 PM, Charlie Doremus wrote: If you are running a Mac your entire iTunes library can be found in time machine. Aloha, Ellie On Oct 16, 2010, at 1:00 AM, James Malone wrote: Hi all. I deleted my iTunes library by mistake. All my library is still on my iPod. If possible I would like to avoid recreating my library, there is probably over 30 gigs of stuff in there, so I really can't be bothered going through all that again if I don't have to. So is there any way to get your library off an ipod and sync it back in to itunes so nothing gets deleted? Cheers, James. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: braille display help
Allison, Did you ever get your braillino yet? I am still waiting to try that braillenote with a Macintosh when the teacher and I have time. He's been out so we've had to make up for lost time. Isaac - Original Message - From: "Allison Manzino" To: Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 3:52 PM Subject: Re: braille display help Hi Samuel, I was thinking about your predicament as I read your post. Is it possible you could look for a used display instead of shelling out the thousands it would cost to purchase a new display? Just a thought. I find that my reading ability only increased when I started reading more. I have been blind since I was three-years-old, I don't know if that helps. But I think if your eye condition is gdegenerative, having a Braille display will open up a whole new tactile world to you. Do you want a notetaker or just a Braille display? THe displays without the notetaking capability are much less expensive. I've heard that APH makes a nice display, with concave cells. I'm anxiously awaiting the arrival of the Handytech Braillino. I hope I have helped. I also read with my left hand almost exclusively. I have calluses on my hand from guitar and started using it more and more often to combat the calluses. Now my left is more sensitive than the right. Have a wonderful day. Allison My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar! On Oct 18, 2010, at 3:13 PM, Samuel wrote: I have a degenerative eye condition, so I'm really feeling the need to improve my braille skills, but I've reached a catch 22. I have a hunch that getting a braille display will improve my reading by opening up much much more content to read, but on the other hand, my reading speed is so slow, that it's hard to justify paying 3-4 thousand dollars for a braille display. I'm also left handed, which i think contributes to a poor reading speed. Any suggestions, do I shell out that much money and risk not using the display, or do i continue to read the 2 or 3 books I have in the hopes of improvement? Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: braille display help
Hi Allison, If you use the Braillino to control the Macbook you can make some oh, boy, what do they call those? Shortcuts? It's supposed to be real powerful in controlling the nit. I never developed it because I like my braille displays straight up! I don't like those shortcuts. And it'll be bluetooth of course! the brailllino has a calculator and a word processor and you can supposedly hook up a printer and an embosser. so you can tell us more about it when you do all that stuff! Isaac - Original Message - From: "Allison Manzino" To: Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 4:50 PM Subject: Re: braille display help Hi Isaac, Not yet, I'm still waiting for it to be shipped. My BrailleNote works with the Mac allbeit intermittently. I love the Macbook with the BrailleNote, but I think with the Braillino it will be even better. I'm anxiously awaiting the arrival of the Braillino counting down the days! Musically, Allison My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar! On Oct 18, 2010, at 4:00 PM, Isaac Obie wrote: Allison, Did you ever get your braillino yet? I am still waiting to try that braillenote with a Macintosh when the teacher and I have time. He's been out so we've had to make up for lost time. Isaac - Original Message - From: "Allison Manzino" To: Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 3:52 PM Subject: Re: braille display help Hi Samuel, I was thinking about your predicament as I read your post. Is it possible you could look for a used display instead of shelling out the thousands it would cost to purchase a new display? Just a thought. I find that my reading ability only increased when I started reading more. I have been blind since I was three-years-old, I don't know if that helps. But I think if your eye condition is gdegenerative, having a Braille display will open up a whole new tactile world to you. Do you want a notetaker or just a Braille display? THe displays without the notetaking capability are much less expensive. I've heard that APH makes a nice display, with concave cells. I'm anxiously awaiting the arrival of the Handytech Braillino. I hope I have helped. I also read with my left hand almost exclusively. I have calluses on my hand from guitar and started using it more and more often to combat the calluses. Now my left is more sensitive than the right. Have a wonderful day. Allison My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar! On Oct 18, 2010, at 3:13 PM, Samuel wrote: I have a degenerative eye condition, so I'm really feeling the need to improve my braille skills, but I've reached a catch 22. I have a hunch that getting a braille display will improve my reading by opening up much much more content to read, but on the other hand, my reading speed is so slow, that it's hard to justify paying 3-4 thousand dollars for a braille display. I'm also left handed, which i think contributes to a poor reading speed. Any suggestions, do I shell out that much money and risk not using the display, or do i continue to read the 2 or 3 books I have in the hopes of improvement? Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: braille display
Hi, You don't need a braille display to improve your reading speed. You could always get a braille book or braille magazine and find good reading mateials! there's ESPN the Magazine, PC World, the computer magazine, There's a chess magazine, there're various other magazines and books to be had from your local library. Heck, I didn't improve my reading speed with a braille display. I used braille books. Isaac - Original Message - From: "Samuel" To: "MacVisionaries" Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 6:57 PM Subject: braille display Actually, if my reading speed were 50 words per minute, i could get the state government here in Texas to buy one for me, but that's the whole stalemate thing. I don't improve my reading speed because there's nothing good to read, I could undoubtedly improve it with a braille display, but I don't think I can afford to buy one myself. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
the fn key?
Hi guys: What does the "FN" key do? I've never had occassion to use it yet. Thanks. Isaac -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: the fn key?
Anne, When I use voiceover mostly for reading, when I want to go to the end of a line, I press vo+ right arrow. We don't seem to have the same function of end, home and such in the Mac. Is this correct? Thanks. Isaac - Original Message - From: "Anne Robertson" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 10:10 AM Subject: Re: the fn key? Hello Isaac, The FN key modifies the actions of the function keys. By default, the Function keys control hardware functions: volume, brightness, etc. VoiceOver uses the function keys for software purposes and having to press the FN key in addition to the VO keys adds an unnecessary level of complication, which is why most of us make the change to the use of the FN key. The FN key is also used on a laptop keyboard with the arrow keys to get the Home, End, Page Up and Page Down functions. Cheers, Anne On 19 Oct 2010, at 15:43, Isaac Obie wrote: Hi guys: What does the "FN" key do? I've never had occassion to use it yet. Thanks. Isaac -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Bluetooth Mini keyboard for the Mac and I phone 4.
Hello Kawal, I thought someone said this unit was advertised on the iphone list? And Ibrahim mentioned something called connext v? in the UK? I've forgotten the one he mentioned. And here's one I think Ester may have reviewed, but don't hold me to that cause I am not sure From: "Anne Robertson" To: Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboards for the iPhone and accented character support; Think Outside Bluetooth keyboards [was Re: great news about the mini bluetooth keyboard!] Date: Sunday, August 22, 2010 7:47 AM Hello Esther, The mini BlueTooth keyboard I'm using only has 49 keys. To get the arrow keys, I have to hold down FN and use r, t, y and u. The bottom row, from left to right, is shift, FN, Alt, @, Space bar (double-size key), Windows, Alt, FN, and Shift. The Windows key appears to have no effect at all. Cheers, Anne -- You And here's a place to buy one:there's one for right at $40Shipped,/I don't own it yet, but folks on the VIPhone list do, the link is ...Mini Bluetooth Keyboard Silver Keyboard $34.95 1 $34.95 http://www.HIDCountry.com HTH! Isaac - Original Message - From: "Kawal Gucukoglu" To: "macvisionaries" Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 3:41 PM Subject: Bluetooth Mini keyboard for the Mac and I phone 4. Dear All. I'm looking for a small mini bluetooth keyboard something like my HTC phone keyboard (as I know some of you will know) what the Touch Pro or Touch pro 2 keyboard looks like. I just need something small and simple which I can connect to my Iphone or Mac Book Pro. I'm living in the UK but if anyone in the US can recommend me anything I'm sure I can get the same else where or the company ships to outside destinations. I hope someone can help. Kawal. Kawal Gucukoglu (E-mail/MSN): kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (Skype ID): kawalgucukoglu (Mobile/text): +447905618396 +447576240421 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: braille display
Erik, Don't forget the Refreshabraille from aph! It has 18 cells and it's both bluetooth and usb and it's less than two grand! Isaac - Original Message - From: "erik burggraaf" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 6:01 PM Subject: Re: braille display Uh, I think I looked at the seika, and it was sketchy. Is that the one that emulates a powerbraille and doesn't have input or bluetoot? I could also be very wrong, but I don't remember seeing it on the supported list. Yes, over 30 displays are claimed to be supported, but the hims braille sense and gw braille sense count as two, and the braille connect 12, 24, 32, and 40 count as four in their book. Best, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, One on one access technology support and training over the phone or in person, 1-888-255-5194 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2010-10-19, at 5:42 PM, David McLean wrote: Just as an fyi you can get the Seika Braille display here in the states for les than the 20 cell Braillino. The Seika has 40 cells. I know different people have different preferences but in case price is one of your considerations. On Oct 19, 2010, at 4:34 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Carolyn, I'm glad to hear that you liked the Braillino. I just got an estimate for one today as I'm trying to get financing for one. The price here in France, including shipping and tax, is €3807. I, too, prefer the 20 cell display as it requires me to move my hands less. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: for eric B re braille display
Hello Carlyn and others, When I bought my Mac mini, I didn't ask rehab. Reason is I don't need it for work so I just bought it. And now I am helping a friend buy a refurbished Macbook. Sometimes we just do things for ourselves. I did it for the challenge! Isaac - Original Message - From: "Carolyn Haas" To: Cc: "Carolyn Haas" Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:46 AM Subject: for eric B re braille display Hi Eric: Ok, I remembered that someone here has the refreshabraille, and said it takes hours as in quite a few to charge.:) I love this exchange of pros and cons, and I'm really looking forward to working with the mac or perhaps someday an iPad with a display. But, only if Rehab will help.:) Carolyn Haas chaas0...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Isaac off topic
Julie, I understand what you're saying! I just bought another braille display and I am going to try to match it up with a Macbook for a friend of mine. I am going to need to use a usb to serial cable. It's going to cost some money though! Firrst I've got to get the unit repaired. then I have to try matching it up to the Mac with that usb/serial cable. But it's going to be a while cause I've got other stuff on the burner ahead of it. I've never tried this combo before but I've got a feeling it's going to work! This will all be from my shallow pockets. I am hoping to study the ipod touch next! then I'll worry about connectivity afterwards. So I've got so much to do with technology I won't be getting myself that ipod touch for my birthday. Maybe Christmas. I'll keep hoping... But we'd best get back to Macs or Cara will kill us! I enjoyed your post! All the best! Isaac - Original Message - From: "504 area" <504a...@gmail.com> To: Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 2:30 PM Subject: Isaac off topic Isaac, Yes I bought mine too. I Use PC at work but at home I wanted a mbP. it was cheaper than the Dell I bought after Hurricane Katrina (OK I know computers have gone down in price in yes - 5 years). JFW and I were having some bumps in the road. New owners for Feedom Scientific I just do not know what the future holds and Apple has demonstrated a strong commitment to the off the shelf product. At risk of sounding like a advertisement I want to use it off the shelf. A year with my Iphone and playing with my other's computer and I thought it was worth the $$$. Then I bought it on a back to school special as he is taking classes (OK so I will likely help him just in case there is trouble... grin) and they threw in a printer which my other spent the day networking his computer to and a I touch which became the nicest birthday gift I ever gave my sister. I am not a computer person and can use my Mac to do most things. Two months into it I am in a better place than I was in 95 when I returned to undergrad with a PC and a new Windows screen reader. I have a lot to learn and this list has been much help. Isaac - much like a phone a computer is pretty standard these days. I wonder if as access becomes the norm if it will fall under "assistive technology" as in the Rehab act. Having just completed a job with vocational rehab (and yes vocational does mean employment in Louisiana) I am keenly aware of the pending adjustment. Sorry for the rant - but if I can buy a product that meets my needs without a third party application I will. Now once I land in my new home and new job which will likely have a desk, phone, chair, sofa and PC then I will have to ponder the more serious question of how much do I not want to use a PC at work. My immediate guess is I need the job enough to use whatever screen reader will work with whatever machine they provide. For items like braille displays I hope there will always be some assist. Having worked non profit, profit and government jobs they are an awful lot for me to expect my employer to buy. Again sorry for going so very off topic.- like the Barefooted Ray I am proudly using my off the shelf Mac. Julie -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Mac question
Hi Esther, Sometimes when I am doing things on the Mac mini it'll say busy. then it'll show a blank line or something. then after I press keys it'll say busy again. What's this with the busy? I used to see it quite a bit before I turned off airport. Thanks. Isaac -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: ilife 11
This morning while I was at the Apple store, I heard there was a guy there who is in accessibility. He started asking me questions, but since I didn't have my equipment setup for this, I just couldn't follow him. I was told that he was in accessibilities. I started to tease him cause that's what I do sometimes when I can't understand things. but I'll see him again and I'll try to learn more next time. Isaac - Original Message - From: "Dean Hudson" To: Cc: "Dean Hudson" Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 1:56 PM Subject: Re: ilife 11 Yes, iLife 11 has some significant accessibility improvements across Garageband, iMovie, and iPhoto. On Oct 21, 2010, at 2:58 AM, Eric Oyen wrote: apple is a little busy just now. they may take a while. -Eric On Oct 21, 2010, at 2:51 AM, Chris Moore wrote: I have wrote to Apple asking if it is more accessible then the previous one, still waiting to hear back. Chris Eric Oyen - N7ZZT Phoenix Arizona Geocode: 33.488462 -112.234926 N33° 29.3077', W112° 14.0956' -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mac question
Hi Claus, The reason why I disabled Airport is because if I don't it will be searching for a connection and I don't have a connection that it needs to find at home. I have one in class. But when I leave class and go home, I don't want Airport searching for a connection and thus possibly messing up my connection to a wired network. It seems to work better with a wired connection for now until I become a more advanced Apple user. Try disabling Airport and see how your connection goes. the idea to turn off Airport was mine, seconded by my instructor. Isaac - Original Message - From: "Claus Thøgersen" To: Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 4:11 PM Subject: Re: Mac question Hi, Busy as I understand it means that the computer or the application is working on whatever task it has to perform. Did it help for you to use a wired network rather than connect wirelessly? I have some sstrange busy problems with Safari, I have tried to use a cable to my router, but I did not see any improvement, but maybe I have to disable airport? Claus - Original Message - From: "ISAAC OBIE" To: Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 10:03 PM Subject: Mac question Hi Esther, Sometimes when I am doing things on the Mac mini it'll say busy. then it'll show a blank line or something. then after I press keys it'll say busy again. What's this with the busy? I used to see it quite a bit before I turned off airport. Thanks. Isaac -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Messed up my Itunes library
Hi Mark, How about restoring it from your backups? I'd think that would be the easiest way to do that. Isaac - Original Message - From: "Mark BurningHawk Baxter" To: Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 5:40 PM Subject: Messed up my Itunes library While importing some new items into Itunes, I accidentally re-categorized a lot of songs as being by the wrong artist. How can I undo this and give the songs back their correct artist and title categories? any ideas? Thanks. • Mark BurningHawk Baxter • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com • My home page: • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: handytech Braillino and Iphone
Allison, It won't work! Braillino is not listed on the iphone list of devices. We tried it in class! No go! Isaac - Original Message - From: "Allison Manzino" To: "Mac Visionaries" Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 9:03 PM Subject: handytech Braillino and Iphone Hi everyone, I wanted to tell you that I finally received my Braillino yesterday afternoon. I was able to successfully pair it with my Macbook, but I cannot pair it with the Iphone. Does anyone have any suggestions? I go in to accessibility and VoiceOver on the Iphone tap Braille and it starts searching for devices, but doesn't find the Braillino. Any suggestions and tips would be most welcome. If this is the wrong list to post this to, I apologize to the moderators in advance. Happily, Allison My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Anyone try the iPod 6th gen?
Scott can you elaborate on how it makes a great internet platform and why you haven't used your radio since? And that sprint overdrive must cost a fortune a month! I think about sixty bucks if I remember correctly. Isaac - Original Message - From: "Scott Granados" To: Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2010 12:03 AM Subject: Re: Anyone try the iPod 6th gen? I don't have the nano but I do have the latest IPod touch and it's absolutely the bomb! I use it every day and even haven't used my radio since switching over. I combined it with a Sprint Overdrive and it makes a great mobile internet platform. On Oct 22, 2010, at 6:22 PM, rayna424 wrote: Hey all, My sighted boyfriend just got the 6th generation nano and holy cow is it tiny haha! Thought I'd ask ya'll if you've gotten one and how you like it? Did a search here but just came up with podcasts. I'd like to know what you think. Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Anyone try the iPod 6th gen?
Scott That is excellent! thank you for that. I am thinking of doing the ipod touch after I learn itunes. I'd like something portable and something that I can do with a braille display since I am hard of hearing. I doubt the ipod'd have the power to be loud enough for my needs. I know very little about gestures. What's your take on this? Will the ipod touch be useful to me? I have a 12 cell braille display. Thanks. Isaac - Original Message - From: "Scott Granados" To: Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2010 12:52 AM Subject: Re: Anyone try the iPod 6th gen? Hi Isaac, Sure first, the Sprint overdrive is about 60 per month. That's pretty reasonable especially if you're in a 4G enabled city. The plan has unlimited 4G service so no cap, 3G is capped at 5GB per month. I commute over an hour each way every day so to me this is valuable time. If you don't travel much and already have broadband you might not be able to justify the cost. I really like the device though and get a lot of milage out of it. As for the IPod, I love the interface. The touch screen is very intuitive to use once you get the hang of it. Tracking of the movements is very good and it is easy to use one handed unlike many phones. With apps like live365, iI-Heart-Radio and many others you can stream all the audio you want in clean stereo audio instead of over the air. I also find I listen to a lot of content not available on the air either because it's treamed only or because it's outside the local area. The only thing I've used my standard radio for recently is listening to John Miller on the Giants radio network.:) My understanding is I can get an MLB app and get the same audio, I assume there's a fee for that. I have not tried this personally but plan on it next year. Things like the web browser are pretty good and most apps are accessible. How's that? On Oct 22, 2010, at 9:29 PM, Isaac Obie wrote: Scott can you elaborate on how it makes a great internet platform and why you haven't used your radio since? And that sprint overdrive must cost a fortune a month! I think about sixty bucks if I remember correctly. Isaac - Original Message - From: "Scott Granados" To: Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2010 12:03 AM Subject: Re: Anyone try the iPod 6th gen? I don't have the nano but I do have the latest IPod touch and it's absolutely the bomb! I use it every day and even haven't used my radio since switching over. I combined it with a Sprint Overdrive and it makes a great mobile internet platform. On Oct 22, 2010, at 6:22 PM, rayna424 wrote: Hey all, My sighted boyfriend just got the 6th generation nano and holy cow is it tiny haha! Thought I'd ask ya'll if you've gotten one and how you like it? Did a search here but just came up with podcasts. I'd like to know what you think. Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: handytech Braillino and Iphone
Hi Annie, The Braillino is supported in the voiceover on my Mac mini, but not on the iphone. Isaac - Original Message - From: "Annie Skov Nielsen" To: Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2010 10:49 AM Subject: Re: handytech Braillino and Iphone Hi. Please report it to apple, I think that the braillino will be supported in the 4.2. Best regards Annie. On Oct 23, 2010, at 3:40 AM, Isaac Obie wrote: Allison, It won't work! Braillino is not listed on the iphone list of devices. We tried it in class! No go! Isaac - Original Message - From: "Allison Manzino" To: "Mac Visionaries" Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 9:03 PM Subject: handytech Braillino and Iphone Hi everyone, I wanted to tell you that I finally received my Braillino yesterday afternoon. I was able to successfully pair it with my Macbook, but I cannot pair it with the Iphone. Does anyone have any suggestions? I go in to accessibility and VoiceOver on the Iphone tap Braille and it starts searching for devices, but doesn't find the Braillino. Any suggestions and tips would be most welcome. If this is the wrong list to post this to, I apologize to the moderators in advance. Happily, Allison My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Jumping to different podcast feeds in Itunes
Hello Allison, How abbout trying command number three? that should put things in listview then all you'd need to do is arrow up and down??? Isaac - Original Message - From: "Allison Manzino" To: "Mac Visionaries" Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2010 12:39 PM Subject: Jumping to different podcast feeds in Itunes Hi all, I hope you are having a wonderful Sunday afternoon. I was just curious about something. I just tried to look at my recently downloaded podcasts, as I am subscribed to several feeds, I wanted to go through them indivudually. I recently updated to the newest version of Itunes, and cannot figure out how to jump to specific podcast feeds. It appears as a table instead of a list view. In the previous version of Itunes, I was able to sleect the podcast from the podcasts list by pressing VO and right arrow. Now all I can do is interact with the table. What am I doing wrong? Any assistance you could give me would be much appreciated. Thank you so much, and have a great day. The Crazy Bird Lady, Allison My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
How do you save email messages with the Mac?
Hi guys: How does one save email messages with the Mac? Can I edit them with Text Edit and clean them up? Get rid of the greater than and such? Thanks. Isaac -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: How do you save email messages with the Mac?
Allison, Have you setup shortcuts to control your Mac with the Braillino yet? Thanks! Isaac - Original Message - From: "Allison Manzino" To: Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 8:07 AM Subject: Re: How do you save email messages with the Mac? Hi aIsac, You can do one of two things. You can copy and paste them and edit them that way. You can also save each message as an individual file by hitting Command Shift S. I do this sometimes for messages that won't copy for some reason even after I highlight the text. I hope this helps. Thank you for all your assistance on the Braillino. I'm loving it. Happily, Allison My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar! On Oct 25, 2010, at 2:29 AM, Isaac Obie wrote: Hi guys: How does one save email messages with the Mac? Can I edit them with Text Edit and clean them up? Get rid of the greater than and such? Thanks. Isaac -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: How do you save email messages with the Mac?
Allison, My apologies about the Braillino controlling the Mac. I think I may be forgetting it is from the windows side of things. You might want to ask Handytech about that one. They may have told me this in conjunction with the windows machine. Sorry about that. Isaac - Original Message - From: "Allison Manzino" To: Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 8:34 AM Subject: Re: How do you save email messages with the Mac? Hi Isaac, I haven't set up shortcuts on the Braillino yet to control the Mac. I'm not sure how, smile. Is it in the Braille table in VoiceOver utilities? Happily, Allison My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar! On Oct 25, 2010, at 8:17 AM, Isaac Obie wrote: Allison, Have you setup shortcuts to control your Mac with the Braillino yet? Thanks! Isaac - Original Message - From: "Allison Manzino" To: Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 8:07 AM Subject: Re: How do you save email messages with the Mac? Hi aIsac, You can do one of two things. You can copy and paste them and edit them that way. You can also save each message as an individual file by hitting Command Shift S. I do this sometimes for messages that won't copy for some reason even after I highlight the text. I hope this helps. Thank you for all your assistance on the Braillino. I'm loving it. Happily, Allison My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar! On Oct 25, 2010, at 2:29 AM, Isaac Obie wrote: Hi guys: How does one save email messages with the Mac? Can I edit them with Text Edit and clean them up? Get rid of the greater than and such? Thanks. Isaac -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: How do you save email messages with the Mac?
Allison, It's a nice li'l tool and no speech! but a deaf man doesn't need speech, does he? It has good potential. Perhaps one day it might have a card reader... Let me stop dreaming... Isaac - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 10:37 AM Subject: Re: How do you save email messages with the Mac? Hi Isaac, It's no problem I know with the BrailleNote there were shortcuts you could enable in Windows. I never used them though as I preferred the Braille straight up. You know so much about the Braillino wish I did. Have a wonderful day. Cheerfully, Allison Sent from my iPhone On 25/10/2010, at 10:05 AM, "Isaac Obie" wrote: Allison, My apologies about the Braillino controlling the Mac. I think I may be forgetting it is from the windows side of things. You might want to ask Handytech about that one. They may have told me this in conjunction with the windows machine. Sorry about that. Isaac - Original Message - From: "Allison Manzino" To: Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 8:34 AM Subject: Re: How do you save email messages with the Mac? Hi Isaac, I haven't set up shortcuts on the Braillino yet to control the Mac. I'm not sure how, smile. Is it in the Braille table in VoiceOver utilities? Happily, Allison My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar! On Oct 25, 2010, at 8:17 AM, Isaac Obie wrote: Allison, Have you setup shortcuts to control your Mac with the Braillino yet? Thanks! Isaac - Original Message - From: "Allison Manzino" To: Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 8:07 AM Subject: Re: How do you save email messages with the Mac? Hi aIsac, You can do one of two things. You can copy and paste them and edit them that way. You can also save each message as an individual file by hitting Command Shift S. I do this sometimes for messages that won't copy for some reason even after I highlight the text. I hope this helps. Thank you for all your assistance on the Braillino. I'm loving it. Happily, Allison My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar! On Oct 25, 2010, at 2:29 AM, Isaac Obie wrote: Hi guys: How does one save email messages with the Mac? Can I edit them with Text Edit and clean them up? Get rid of the greater than and such? Thanks. Isaac -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Microsoft Office 2011 period
Hello folks, Why are you folks wasting so much valuable time and bandwidth with Microsoft bashing? It doesn't change a thing! Will the moderators have to step in again and say let's get on with Mac issues and stop the Microsoft bashing? Besides, with as much money as Microsoft has, I find it hard to believe that a certain individual can buy them off with a million dollars or even nine million. What's nine million against thirty eight billion? Let's stop the bashing.. Isaac - Original Message - From: "Scott Granados" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 5:55 PM Subject: Re: Microsoft Office 2011 period Unm it's not Bill's fault though. A big part of the reason that Microsoft doesn't have native accessibility is the way a subset of the blind community handled accessibility and MS years back. There were a whole series of payoffs and backroom dealings that took place on behalf of some organizations who make money by selling 3rd party tools. Microsoft truth be told wanted to include a screen reader with the OS and make their tools accessible but found again a certain subset protesting on their front door as a result. (because they were paid off by a certain screen reader company founder to do so to the tune of 7 figures) This same subset still writes hit pieces against Apple today because they do not get a cut of the Apple accessibility pie. Don't think I defend Microsoft unconditionally, I generally hate their products and their developers come from the back of the class but in this case at least your anger is a bit misdirected. I won't detail the specifics here because it's only tangentially ontopic and it ruffled a few feathers of folks on this list who benefits from the status quo. On Oct 26, 2010, at 2:12 PM, heather kd5cbl wrote: Bill is responsible for that robot they call narrator and he claims windows is accessible. While our friends at Apple, actually have a real screenreader built in to their system. So, Bill is not doing anyone any favors by making us, windows users, go out an by screenreaders worth more than their pc computers. I want to put a blind fold over his eyes and make him use his own computer with just narrator, I am sure he would not get very far! Also, anyone who has to use word 2010 with jaws, has to by another msa or their job has too. And the mac users with voiceover, cant use it at all. So he is an easy target. Otherwise, he would have wised up a long time ago and had his own built in speech for windows but, he just does not care. I am starting to use open office and pages more and the msword does not matter that much anymore. Heather -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: braille embossers?
Hi ERik, Why do you think the Index would be a weak solution? I've no plans just yet to use my VErsabraille duo. It has parallel and I believe serial ports. the Index would need usb ports to work with the mac. What're you thinking besides working with Louis? Isaac - Original Message - From: "erik burggraaf" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 7:21 AM Subject: braille embossers? Hi guys, just curious what do you think is the best most compatible embosser to get for a mac user? Index is king here, and there is Ibraille, but my feeling is that is a week solution. I'd rather teach louis and whatever current embossers work best. Appreciate any opinions and experiences you can share. Thanks, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, One on one access technology support and training over the phone or in person, 1-888-255-5194 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: what is garage band?
Hi Chris, It's a musical program that lets you play, create, design music from various instruments. It's how some rock bands get started in music. so in esssence it's all about music and there're a lot of musicians on the list who're Mac users! Many of them are professional musicians so their talk is way, way over my head, but I enjoy reading their messages because I learn something. Isaac - Original Message - From: "Chris Westbrook" To: Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 3:24 PM Subject: what is garage band? I have been watching the threads with interest and am debating whether to get garage band 11. I am a musician but not a professional one. I see all these different instruments, and I am thinking it would be cool to make tracks that I could improvise with on the flute like my little keyboard had ages ago. I have ilife 10 or whatever the last version was but can't seem to figure anything out. If I select an instrument and check play nothing happens. Not sure what garage band is supposed to do. :)Is there a podcast where I can see someone doing something with garage band so I can get an idea? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: A braille translation error
Hello Kawal, Itself is written xf. There's no "s" in there. Isaac - Original Message - From: "Kawal Gucukoglu" To: "macvisionaries" Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 4:33 AM Subject: A braille translation error Hi All. This is meant for the Apple braille list but I haven't got the E-mail address. If I write itself (and you know that it self) should be written as X S F, together, the braille will not translate correctly. If anyone thinks I should write to Apple accessability then please say. Kawal. Kawal Gucukoglu -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: OT Going to seriously cry now
Hi May, Hard drives may crash, but the info can be retrieved even though the drive has crashed. They do have data recovery services. Isaac - Original Message - From: "May McDonald" To: Cc: ; Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 6:36 PM Subject: OT Going to seriously cry now Ok, I'm not at home with the list of people that have already responded to me regarding my server. Bad news, it's going to take a lot longer than I thought to get it back up and not because it's not working. My lovely hard drive that had all the audio books decided it didn't want to share it's information with it's new home and blew up!!! I just lost thousands of audio books that took me a year to collect. The movies and tv shows made it because they were on a different drive, but I'm not hapy about losing the books. I do plan on getting them all back after I'm done bashing my head against a wall and ten beating my computer into dust! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: accessibility of MacBook Air
n NVDA is a free screenreader. Isaac - Original Message - From: "Brian Miller" To: Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 7:40 AM Subject: RE: accessibility of MacBook Air At risk of getting of us topic for this listserv, may I ask what is NDVA? I've not heard of this screen reader -- is it one of the systems access products? Brian Miller -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nektarios Mallas Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2010 9:33 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: accessibility of MacBook Air Hello. I am not going to defend windows or netbooks here, but you can get this $300 computer with windows 7 sarter, add NVDA free and powerful screen reader and you are good to go. Nektarios. On Nov 8, 2010, at 2:39 AM, Pete Nalda wrote: Hate to say this, but that $300 pc NetBook becomes $1300 when you add the price of Accessibility. For $1000 you get not only a nice performing computer but a screenreader as well. On Nov 7, 2010, at 6:34 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: OH nice, but if apple says it is going to make it like the pc netbook the price is sure wrong. the average netbook is around $300 the macbook air is about $1000. But glad you like the air. I want to try one one day. They sound cool for quick things like note taking in class o what not. On Nov 7, 2010, at 2:07 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: I am typing this message on a MacBook Air while flying home from Reno, NV where yesterday, I used that same MacBook Air to take 9 hours worth of minutes during the American Council of the Blind Board Meeting. I am ACB Secretary, and this machine performs just like my MacBook Pro but without all the weight. I got the 11 inch size and it is absolutely wonderful. Marlaina Lieberg 1guide...@gmail.com On Nov 6, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Kevin Shaw wrote: The Macbook Air runs OS X Snow Leopard. It should be just as accessible as any other Macbook. Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) Pete Nalda http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda http://www.linkedin.com/in/lpnalda -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: accessibility of MacBook Air
Neill, You mean a usb memory stick? I saw the Macbook Air and I saw no place for a card. I only saw two usb ports, one on each side. Isaac - Original Message - From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" To: Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 9:36 AM Subject: Re: accessibility of MacBook Air hello, in case its not been mentioned, the new Air comes with a USB memory card 8Gb which has the OS on it for reinstall purposes. On 8 Nov 2010, at 09:12, Paul Erkens wrote: Hi Mike, This sounds very interesting. How would I go about sharing the drive on my macbook, so that an air could use it to install its OS? - Original Message - From: "Mike Arrigo" To: Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 4:31 AM Subject: Re: accessibility of MacBook Air You can share the DVD drive of the macbook pro, and the macbook air can use the shared drive. On Nov 7, 2010, at 8:11 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: Mary, I got the fattest 11 inch air I could get with 128 gb storage and 4gb memory. Apple makes a great product, but you pay for it but then again, you get what you pay for. So when I purchase an apple device, I only do it if I can get the most I can for what I want. I concur, 64 GB is hardly enough. Now the 13 incher goes up to 256 G; LOL I just wrote K instead of GB; hmmm, do you think I am tired from travel? I just cannot say enough about this Air! but just as in the windows world a netbook is sexy, it might not be for everyone. However, it surely is for me. I will find out more about methodologies for updating the OS; I'm not concerned, because I still have a macBook Pro to which I can hook the Air, but I realize I am unique perhaps in that, so I will find out and let folks know what I learn unless somebody else already knows how to do it for sure. Marlaina On Nov 7, 2010, at 5:52 PM, Mary Otten wrote: Marlaina, Your comment about the IPad was interesting. I've been pondering the possible purchase of an IPad or the Air and seeing pluses and minuses for both. I assume you are using Pages on the Air for all that note taking? I'd be curious if others' experiences with the bluetooth keyboard and the IPad mirrored yours. What keyboard were you using? Did you say you got the air with just 64gb of storage? Or did you upgrade? the price goes up mighty fast when you do that, but 64gb doesn't seem sufficient. mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Re;what is nvda?.
Hello Chenelle, Your messages start out with "sent from my iphone" then the message is run together with sent from my iphone. I just thought you'd like to know this. Isaac - Original Message - From: "Chenelle Hancock" To: Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 2:04 PM Subject: Re;what is nvda?. Sent from my iPhonehi Brian miller,nvda is an open sourced screen reader for windows computers. You. Can use it on your computer like jaws but it does more things as far as reading text in pages that you want read. It won't everything on the page like jaw does. Yu download to your hard drive of your computer and it would be ready to go. I hope this helps Brian. Chenelle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: accessibility of MacBook Air
Pete, It's a thousand bucks! I priced it last week! that $900 figure is missleading. It's a thousand bucks. It's $999. It's a neat little package! I want one. Isaac - Original Message - From: "Pete Nalda" To: Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 2:45 PM Subject: Re: accessibility of MacBook Air Yeah, that's another advantage of the Air. So, for $900, you get Style, solid performance, *and* a free screenreader, and magnification program. On Nov 8, 2010, at 12:16 PM, Scott Granados wrote: Yeah but a $300 netbook won't help you pick up chicks. An Apple Air definitely will! On Nov 7, 2010, at 4:39 PM, Pete Nalda wrote: Hate to say this, but that $300 pc NetBook becomes $1300 when you add the price of Accessibility. For $1000 you get not only a nice performing computer but a screenreader as well. On Nov 7, 2010, at 6:34 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: OH nice, but if apple says it is going to make it like the pc netbook the price is sure wrong. the average netbook is around $300 the macbook air is about $1000. But glad you like the air. I want to try one one day. They sound cool for quick things like note taking in class o what not. On Nov 7, 2010, at 2:07 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: I am typing this message on a MacBook Air while flying home from Reno, NV where yesterday, I used that same MacBook Air to take 9 hours worth of minutes during the American Council of the Blind Board Meeting. I am ACB Secretary, and this machine performs just like my MacBook Pro but without all the weight. I got the 11 inch size and it is absolutely wonderful. Marlaina Lieberg 1guide...@gmail.com On Nov 6, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Kevin Shaw wrote: The Macbook Air runs OS X Snow Leopard. It should be just as accessible as any other Macbook. Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) Pete Nalda http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda http://www.linkedin.com/in/lpnalda -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) Pete Nalda http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda http://www.linkedin.com/in/lpnalda -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
finding files in documents?
Colin, Ah, I feel dumb today. I've got a file in documents I'd like to retrieve. I went to finder, I interacted with the sidebar table. then I found documents. then I found the browser. It said one item. Now how do I find the file? I feel so silly cause I can't find that silly file. thanks! thanks Colin! Isaac -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: feature suggestion for braille key assignments.
Erik, Interesting comments. I wish I knew more about all this, but I just bought a big bc40 the other day so I've got a bit of learning to do. but isn't the joystick already emulating the arrow keys? that part I am not clear on. Isaac - Original Message - From: "erik burggraaf" To: Cc: Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 10:23 AM Subject: feature suggestion for braille key assignments. Hi, I'm just hacking my braille connect to try and maximize the controller options and make it more comfortable for me to use as a full braille controller. I want it to emulate my computer. For example, I have reset the joystick on the bc32 so that it performs the functions of the up down left and right arrow keys, as opposed to the standard move lest right up and down. Now, what I would appreciate and find most helpful is if I could have a new custom key dialog box added to the custom menu of the key assignments. I'm not really sure what to call this great dialog box, since custom is already taken by the menu, but it would work like this. You input a key on the key board, the up arrow for example. Then you have checkboxes for each of the command, option, control, and fn keys. You check the appropriate combination of modifier keys. I want command up arrow assigned to space+d1+d2+d3 for example. Command up arrow and command down arrow are the standard mac OS keyboard shortcuts to take me to the top and bottom of a text area such as this edit box where I am typing a message. I'm just typing along, not interacting or any of that nonsense and if I want to read what I've written from the top I can press command up arrow to go to the beginning of what I've just typed, and then I can either read line by line with the arrows, Or I can read on the display. So, I like command up arrow and command down arrow, and I just want to tell my braille controller that when I press space+d1+d2+d3, or space+d4+d5+d6, it means do that thing. I feel the same way about option up and down arrow, option left and right arrow, and control left and right arrow. Or how about tab, command tab, shift tab and command shift tab. I have fiddled with a lot of navigation key assignments that should emulate what I want, but the fact of the matter is, they all rely on interacting with each and every object in order to work effectively. I wouldn't normally interact with things more than %10 or %15 of the time, mostly scroll areas or html frames or some issues involving group mode on the web. Interacting with every single item on the screen to make it work defeats the power and purpose of interacting and so I only do when it's called for. In braille display world, I currently have to interact with every object I am working on to make it behave which is obnoxious and could be completely avoidable by allowing a braille controller to more closely emulate the computer. best, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, One on one access technology support and training over the phone or in person, 1-888-255-5194 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
