Re: Body cams

[BobH.]

Intrigued to know what these are.

R.

Ps:  found them, interesting.  I had a pair of specs with camera and sound 
recorder in, with pocket remote; quite cheap and accessible as basic pen 
drive.
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To: "MacVisionaries" 
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 2:40 AM
Subject: Body cams


Anyone know of body cams similar to what has been talked about on
the news for police? Something that is acccessible and easy to transfer
videos to the Mac or iOS device?

 From The Believer. . .
  . . . what if it were true?
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RE: Odd behaviour in notices.

[M. Taylor]

Hello,

I cannot confirm this glitch.  

My Notification settings are preserved across system reboots.

Mark

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Subject: Re: Odd behaviour in notices.

Yes,
I notice the same thing. I am driven mad by mail showing up in notification 
centre every time a new message comes in. I change the settings but they won’t 
stick.
Max

> On 28 Oct 2014, at 9:47 am, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> When i change things in the noteces settings for example from banners to none 
> or turn of audio notices it changes back when restarting my mac.
> This happen to a friend of mine too so i am wondering if there are more 
> experiencing this?
> Thanks.
> /A
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Calling with the mac.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I must say that i am not very happy with this feature to be able to call on the 
mac.
It works sometimes and today when i tried it with my logitech headset i could 
hear my mom but she couldn't  hear me.
I checked the settings so that my headset was set right and it was.
Also voiceover got a very strange voice during the call.
So i guess this is a bit to new and hopefully it will be better in future 
versions of ios and osx.
The sms forwarding though works fine now.
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Re: Odd behaviour in notices.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
If you open system settings and go to notices and interact with the table of 
programs shown in notices you can there look for a checkbox to turn on audio 
notices.
/A
> 28 okt 2014 kl. 02:15 skrev Shawn Krasniuk :
> 
> Hi. What are audio notices and how do you turn them on?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 27, 2014, at 5:47 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> When i change things in the noteces settings for example from banners to 
>> none or turn of audio notices it changes back when restarting my mac.
>> This happen to a friend of mine too so i am wondering if there are more 
>> experiencing this?
>> Thanks.
>> /A
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Can someone please post current directions for making the preview pane go away

[Donna Goodin]

Hi all,

I think the directions I have for this are from the days of Snow Lion.  Can 
someone post current directions?
Thanks,
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Re: Can someone please post current directions for making the preview pane go away

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello Donna,

It would be nice to know that too. However, here’s what I did that worked but I 
don’t know exactly how it worked.

Go mail prefs, view and tick classic view.
Go to system prefs, accessibility options and enable mouse keys. You should be 
able to press option quickly 5 times. That later method doesn’t work on my 
Yosemite system.
Now VO right arrow or left arrow, until you hear “Horizontal splitter“.
Press VO command F5.
Now attempt to click on that horizontal splitter.
Using the keyboard, trackpad, cursing it and nearly beating up the machine I 
could not drag and drop the thing. I really don’t know what I tried and it 
seemed nothing worked .
Now go back to mail prefs and take the classic view tick out of the checkbox.
Upon closing mail prefs, the pest had vanished. How where, why and when it was 
triggered I don’t know.

A very frustrating experience.

Good luck.

Gena

Georgina Joyce
Applied Psychologist
Training and Coaching.
Because individuals of groups matter!

> On 28 Oct 2014, at 12:30, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I think the directions I have for this are from the days of Snow Lion.  Can 
> someone post current directions?
> Thanks,
> Donna
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Re: Can someone please post current directions for making the preview pane go away

[Donna Goodin]

Thanks, Georgina.  I'm running Yosemite, and your directions aren't working 
here either.  thanks for posting them, though.  Maybe this is just an annoying 
Yosemite thing we have to live with.  I made the preview pane go away years 
ago, and it never came back until I upgraded.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Oct 28, 2014, at 8:38 AM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
> 
> Hello Donna,
> 
> It would be nice to know that too. However, here’s what I did that worked but 
> I don’t know exactly how it worked.
> 
> Go mail prefs, view and tick classic view.
> Go to system prefs, accessibility options and enable mouse keys. You should 
> be able to press option quickly 5 times. That later method doesn’t work on my 
> Yosemite system.
> Now VO right arrow or left arrow, until you hear “Horizontal splitter“.
> Press VO command F5.
> Now attempt to click on that horizontal splitter.
> Using the keyboard, trackpad, cursing it and nearly beating up the machine I 
> could not drag and drop the thing. I really don’t know what I tried and it 
> seemed nothing worked .
> Now go back to mail prefs and take the classic view tick out of the checkbox.
> Upon closing mail prefs, the pest had vanished. How where, why and when it 
> was triggered I don’t know.
> 
> A very frustrating experience.
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> Gena
> 
> Georgina Joyce
> Applied Psychologist
> Training and Coaching.
> Because individuals of groups matter!
> 
>> On 28 Oct 2014, at 12:30, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I think the directions I have for this are from the days of Snow Lion.  Can 
>> someone post current directions?
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
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Re: using a focus braille display with the mac

[Joe Quinn]

is there a way to assign specific braille commands to keyboard commands? for 
instance, dots 1-2-3-4-5+spacebar to  the command q keys on the keyboard? 
thanks!
> On Oct 27, 2014, at 9:21 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
> 
> Hi there
> First, try pairing it with your Mac and please let me know how you come out. 
> It was a problem under Mavericks, and I have a focus 14 paired with my 
> Mac.however, I had a terrible time getting it to work. I finally had to go 
> for a Genius Bar appointment to get it to work.
> 
> Having said all that, once you do get it to work, there are commands which 
> are common to braille displays that have keyboard input. The tab command that 
> you mentioned,four instance, is done with the T and the space together.
> A lot of the commands that you are using on the iPhone will also work on your 
> Mac. Not all of them exactly like it, but quite a few of them.
> 
> Sincerely,
> GigiSent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 27, 2014, at 8:24 PM, Joe Quinn  wrote:
>> 
>> I’ve got a focus 14 blue and want to know how to use it more effectively 
>> with my  mid 2012 macbook pro running Yosemite. anyone whose using one,  how 
>> do you move around with the mac? Also, can you use it independent of a 
>> keyboard, like can you do command tab and the like? Thanks for any help you 
>> can give. It’s definitely more time consuming than the iPhone. , I know this 
>> much.
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Re: using a focus braille display with the mac

[Eugenia Firth]

Hello there
There is a way to assign keys, but I'm not sure that one is going to work. 
There is a table on there of ones that are already assigned.  You have to go 
into the voiceover utilities, go to broil, and then go to the assigned keys.
Gigi

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> On Oct 28, 2014, at 9:00 AM, Joe Quinn  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> is there a way to assign specific braille commands to keyboard commands? for 
> instance, dots 1-2-3-4-5+spacebar to  the command q keys on the keyboard? 
> thanks!
>> On Oct 27, 2014, at 9:21 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi there
>> First, try pairing it with your Mac and please let me know how you come out. 
>> It was a problem under Mavericks, and I have a focus 14 paired with my 
>> Mac.however, I had a terrible time getting it to work. I finally had to go 
>> for a Genius Bar appointment to get it to work.
>> 
>> Having said all that, once you do get it to work, there are commands which 
>> are common to braille displays that have keyboard input. The tab command 
>> that you mentioned,four instance, is done with the T and the space together.
>> A lot of the commands that you are using on the iPhone will also work on 
>> your Mac. Not all of them exactly like it, but quite a few of them.
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> GigiSent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 27, 2014, at 8:24 PM, Joe Quinn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’ve got a focus 14 blue and want to know how to use it more effectively 
>>> with my  mid 2012 macbook pro running Yosemite. anyone whose using one,  
>>> how do you move around with the mac? Also, can you use it independent of a 
>>> keyboard, like can you do command tab and the like? Thanks for any help you 
>>> can give. It’s definitely more time consuming than the iPhone. , I know 
>>> this much.
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Yosemite: The ghost in the machine?

[Mark Baxter]

Ever since upgrading my MBP15 (built around 2008, 4G RAM), random things have 
been changing, every time I put my Mac to sleep and wake it up again.  For 
example:  Safari will not access my banking website (www.usbank.com), and shows 
an empty HTML pane after I enter my password.  However, I can log into the same 
website with the same user name and password with my iPad’s US Bank app, no 
problem.  Every other page seems to load fine, but my download speed continues 
to be low.

The next odd thing was that, when I woke my Mac this morning, VoiceOver 
wouldn’t talk, nor did shutting it off and relaunching it help; I had to shut 
off the mac and restart it to regain VO.  When I did this, the system voice had 
changed from Samantha to Alex, even though I downloaded the Samantha voice 
upgrade.  Very odd.  One day, I’ll wake up my Mac and it’ll be talking in 
Swahili backwards with a German accent. 

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Re: Calling with the mac.

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

>From my prospective, it works perfectly every time.  My Mac can be connected 
>either wirelessly or with an ethernet cable, as long as I’m on the same 
>physical network.  I can use built-in speakers and microphone or use my iPhone 
>headset.  In fact, while I was typing this message, a call came in, I just 
>pressed the return key and answered the call.  When it was done, I FaceTime 
>closed and I was able to continue typing this note.  I’m guessing that your 
>frustrations have to do with the use of the Logitech headset.  Did your 
>headset work for FaceTime calls prior to this feature?

Later…

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On Oct 28, 2014, at 5:10 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> I must say that i am not very happy with this feature to be able to call on 
> the mac.
> It works sometimes and today when i tried it with my logitech headset i could 
> hear my mom but she couldn't  hear me.
> I checked the settings so that my headset was set right and it was.
> Also voiceover got a very strange voice during the call.
> So i guess this is a bit to new and hopefully it will be better in future 
> versions of ios and osx.
> The sms forwarding though works fine now.
> /A
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Re: Can someone please post current directions for making the preview pane go away

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi Donna,

My Preview pane settings stuck when I upgraded to Yosemite, so, I’m not having 
your same frustration.  Here’s some instructions for you though that  I posted 
back when Mavericks first was released.  Not sure how, or if they still work in 
Yosemite, but it’s probably worth a try.

1.  Go into Mail Prefs and select the Viewing pane. 
2.  Check to change to Classic View. 
3.  Close Mail Prefs. 
4.  Navigate to the Horizontal Splitter after the Messages Table. 
5.  Press VO-cmd-f5 to make sure the mouse is focused on the Splitter. 
6.  Press down on the Trackpad then drag downwards to the bottom of the 
physical Trackpad then release.  This could also be done with a mouse instead.

You will know that it worked because the splitter will no longer be right after 
the Messages Table, it will be the last item at the bottom of the window.

7.  Change back into Modern View in the Mail Prefs by unchecking the box, or 
stay in Classic view if you prefer.
8.  Close the Mail Prefs.

You will know that the Preview Pane is closed/hidden/disabled by navigating 
around the Mail window and you will note a Vertical Splitter before and after 
the Messages Column Group.

If it’s not sticking for you, try quitting Mail after getting rid of the 
Preview Pane in Classic view.  Once you re-open Mail, you can change back to 
the Modern View, and the change should stick.  At least it has for me numerous 
times.

HTH.

Later…

 Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On Oct 28, 2014, at 7:47 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Georgina.  I'm running Yosemite, and your directions aren't working 
> here either.  thanks for posting them, though.  Maybe this is just an 
> annoying Yosemite thing we have to live with.  I made the preview pane go 
> away years ago, and it never came back until I upgraded.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On Oct 28, 2014, at 8:38 AM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Donna,
>> 
>> It would be nice to know that too. However, here’s what I did that worked 
>> but I don’t know exactly how it worked.
>> 
>> Go mail prefs, view and tick classic view.
>> Go to system prefs, accessibility options and enable mouse keys. You should 
>> be able to press option quickly 5 times. That later method doesn’t work on 
>> my Yosemite system.
>> Now VO right arrow or left arrow, until you hear “Horizontal splitter“.
>> Press VO command F5.
>> Now attempt to click on that horizontal splitter.
>> Using the keyboard, trackpad, cursing it and nearly beating up the machine I 
>> could not drag and drop the thing. I really don’t know what I tried and it 
>> seemed nothing worked .
>> Now go back to mail prefs and take the classic view tick out of the checkbox.
>> Upon closing mail prefs, the pest had vanished. How where, why and when it 
>> was triggered I don’t know.
>> 
>> A very frustrating experience.
>> 
>> Good luck.
>> 
>> Gena
>> 
>> Georgina Joyce
>> Applied Psychologist
>> Training and Coaching.
>> Because individuals of groups matter!
>> 
>>> On 28 Oct 2014, at 12:30, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I think the directions I have for this are from the days of Snow Lion.  Can 
>>> someone post current directions?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Donna
>>> 
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Re: Calling with the mac.

[Pete Nalda]

I've not had very good luck with this here either. Maybe it's my Wi-Fi, but it 
only works maybe two or three times, rest the time it didn't work.

Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
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> On Oct 28, 2014, at 6:10 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> I must say that i am not very happy with this feature to be able to call on 
> the mac.
> It works sometimes and today when i tried it with my logitech headset i could 
> hear my mom but she couldn't  hear me.
> I checked the settings so that my headset was set right and it was.
> Also voiceover got a very strange voice during the call.
> So i guess this is a bit to new and hopefully it will be better in future 
> versions of ios and osx.
> The sms forwarding though works fine now.
> /A
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Re: Can someone please post current directions for making the preview pane go away

[Donna Goodin]

Hi Tim,

When I do this, when I go to press and drag on the trackpad, I'm just taken 
over into the preview pane.  Any idea what I might be doing wrong?  thanks for 
the help.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Oct 28, 2014, at 10:13 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna,
> 
> My Preview pane settings stuck when I upgraded to Yosemite, so, I’m not 
> having your same frustration.  Here’s some instructions for you though that  
> I posted back when Mavericks first was released.  Not sure how, or if they 
> still work in Yosemite, but it’s probably worth a try.
> 
> 1.  Go into Mail Prefs and select the Viewing pane. 
> 2.  Check to change to Classic View. 
> 3.  Close Mail Prefs. 
> 4.  Navigate to the Horizontal Splitter after the Messages Table. 
> 5.  Press VO-cmd-f5 to make sure the mouse is focused on the Splitter. 
> 6.  Press down on the Trackpad then drag downwards to the bottom of the 
> physical Trackpad then release.  This could also be done with a mouse instead.
> 
> You will know that it worked because the splitter will no longer be right 
> after the Messages Table, it will be the last item at the bottom of the 
> window.
> 
> 7.  Change back into Modern View in the Mail Prefs by unchecking the box, or 
> stay in Classic view if you prefer.
> 8.  Close the Mail Prefs.
> 
> You will know that the Preview Pane is closed/hidden/disabled by navigating 
> around the Mail window and you will note a Vertical Splitter before and after 
> the Messages Column Group.
> 
> If it’s not sticking for you, try quitting Mail after getting rid of the 
> Preview Pane in Classic view.  Once you re-open Mail, you can change back to 
> the Modern View, and the change should stick.  At least it has for me 
> numerous times.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> Later…
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Oct 28, 2014, at 7:47 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks, Georgina.  I'm running Yosemite, and your directions aren't working 
>> here either.  thanks for posting them, though.  Maybe this is just an 
>> annoying Yosemite thing we have to live with.  I made the preview pane go 
>> away years ago, and it never came back until I upgraded.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On Oct 28, 2014, at 8:38 AM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Donna,
>>> 
>>> It would be nice to know that too. However, here’s what I did that worked 
>>> but I don’t know exactly how it worked.
>>> 
>>> Go mail prefs, view and tick classic view.
>>> Go to system prefs, accessibility options and enable mouse keys. You should 
>>> be able to press option quickly 5 times. That later method doesn’t work on 
>>> my Yosemite system.
>>> Now VO right arrow or left arrow, until you hear “Horizontal splitter“.
>>> Press VO command F5.
>>> Now attempt to click on that horizontal splitter.
>>> Using the keyboard, trackpad, cursing it and nearly beating up the machine 
>>> I could not drag and drop the thing. I really don’t know what I tried and 
>>> it seemed nothing worked .
>>> Now go back to mail prefs and take the classic view tick out of the 
>>> checkbox.
>>> Upon closing mail prefs, the pest had vanished. How where, why and when it 
>>> was triggered I don’t know.
>>> 
>>> A very frustrating experience.
>>> 
>>> Good luck.
>>> 
>>> Gena
>>> 
>>> Georgina Joyce
>>> Applied Psychologist
>>> Training and Coaching.
>>> Because individuals of groups matter!
>>> 
 On 28 Oct 2014, at 12:30, Donna Goodin  wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I think the directions I have for this are from the days of Snow Lion.  
 Can someone post current directions?
 Thanks,
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Re: Can someone please post current directions for making the preview pane go away

[Donna Goodin]

And further weirdness, I somehow ended up with a file on my desktop with the 
subject of this message followed by the suffix dml.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Oct 28, 2014, at 10:13 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna,
> 
> My Preview pane settings stuck when I upgraded to Yosemite, so, I’m not 
> having your same frustration.  Here’s some instructions for you though that  
> I posted back when Mavericks first was released.  Not sure how, or if they 
> still work in Yosemite, but it’s probably worth a try.
> 
> 1.  Go into Mail Prefs and select the Viewing pane. 
> 2.  Check to change to Classic View. 
> 3.  Close Mail Prefs. 
> 4.  Navigate to the Horizontal Splitter after the Messages Table. 
> 5.  Press VO-cmd-f5 to make sure the mouse is focused on the Splitter. 
> 6.  Press down on the Trackpad then drag downwards to the bottom of the 
> physical Trackpad then release.  This could also be done with a mouse instead.
> 
> You will know that it worked because the splitter will no longer be right 
> after the Messages Table, it will be the last item at the bottom of the 
> window.
> 
> 7.  Change back into Modern View in the Mail Prefs by unchecking the box, or 
> stay in Classic view if you prefer.
> 8.  Close the Mail Prefs.
> 
> You will know that the Preview Pane is closed/hidden/disabled by navigating 
> around the Mail window and you will note a Vertical Splitter before and after 
> the Messages Column Group.
> 
> If it’s not sticking for you, try quitting Mail after getting rid of the 
> Preview Pane in Classic view.  Once you re-open Mail, you can change back to 
> the Modern View, and the change should stick.  At least it has for me 
> numerous times.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> Later…
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Oct 28, 2014, at 7:47 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks, Georgina.  I'm running Yosemite, and your directions aren't working 
>> here either.  thanks for posting them, though.  Maybe this is just an 
>> annoying Yosemite thing we have to live with.  I made the preview pane go 
>> away years ago, and it never came back until I upgraded.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On Oct 28, 2014, at 8:38 AM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Donna,
>>> 
>>> It would be nice to know that too. However, here’s what I did that worked 
>>> but I don’t know exactly how it worked.
>>> 
>>> Go mail prefs, view and tick classic view.
>>> Go to system prefs, accessibility options and enable mouse keys. You should 
>>> be able to press option quickly 5 times. That later method doesn’t work on 
>>> my Yosemite system.
>>> Now VO right arrow or left arrow, until you hear “Horizontal splitter“.
>>> Press VO command F5.
>>> Now attempt to click on that horizontal splitter.
>>> Using the keyboard, trackpad, cursing it and nearly beating up the machine 
>>> I could not drag and drop the thing. I really don’t know what I tried and 
>>> it seemed nothing worked .
>>> Now go back to mail prefs and take the classic view tick out of the 
>>> checkbox.
>>> Upon closing mail prefs, the pest had vanished. How where, why and when it 
>>> was triggered I don’t know.
>>> 
>>> A very frustrating experience.
>>> 
>>> Good luck.
>>> 
>>> Gena
>>> 
>>> Georgina Joyce
>>> Applied Psychologist
>>> Training and Coaching.
>>> Because individuals of groups matter!
>>> 
 On 28 Oct 2014, at 12:30, Donna Goodin  wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I think the directions I have for this are from the days of Snow Lion.  
 Can someone post current directions?
 Thanks,
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Re: using a focus braille display with the mac

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Joe,

You can only assign VoiceOver commands to a Braille display, or to any 
commander for that matter. Cmd-q is a standard Mac command and not a VoiceOver 
command. Using a Braille display to drive your Mac, you’ll need to go into the 
menus and click the appropriate command.

Cheers,

Anne


> On 28 Oct 2014, at 15:00, Joe Quinn  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> is there a way to assign specific braille commands to keyboard commands? for 
> instance, dots 1-2-3-4-5+spacebar to  the command q keys on the keyboard? 
> thanks!
>> On Oct 27, 2014, at 9:21 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi there
>> First, try pairing it with your Mac and please let me know how you come out. 
>> It was a problem under Mavericks, and I have a focus 14 paired with my 
>> Mac.however, I had a terrible time getting it to work. I finally had to go 
>> for a Genius Bar appointment to get it to work.
>> 
>> Having said all that, once you do get it to work, there are commands which 
>> are common to braille displays that have keyboard input. The tab command 
>> that you mentioned,four instance, is done with the T and the space together.
>> A lot of the commands that you are using on the iPhone will also work on 
>> your Mac. Not all of them exactly like it, but quite a few of them.
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> GigiSent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 27, 2014, at 8:24 PM, Joe Quinn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’ve got a focus 14 blue and want to know how to use it more effectively 
>>> with my  mid 2012 macbook pro running Yosemite. anyone whose using one,  
>>> how do you move around with the mac? Also, can you use it independent of a 
>>> keyboard, like can you do command tab and the like? Thanks for any help you 
>>> can give. It’s definitely more time consuming than the iPhone. , I know 
>>> this much.
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Safari Podcast 7 YouTube

[David Griffith]

Safari Part 7 YouTube

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/jim2ys

Previous Podcasts

Using Safari on the Mac Part 6 -- Searching Basics, Google Search and 
Google Snapback.


https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/1ur8fz

UsingSafari on the Mac Part 5. Strategies for using and customising the 
Reading List.


https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/wmbw5w

Using Safari on the Mac Part 4. Flexible Web with Sweet spots and Reader 
commands.


https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/alr2yi

Using Safari on the Mac Part 3 Bookmarking part 2- Launching bookmarks 
and bookmarks folders from the Desktop / or the Dock.


https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/04aj3b

Blank URL document template to use if dragging and dropping does not 
work on your Mac to create bookmark shortcuts.


https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/gvj63a

Using Safari on the Mac Part 2 . Bookmarking Part 1 Bookmarking, 
organising bookmark folders and


and organising quick access to Favourite web sites through the 
Favourites bar keystrokes.


https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/fpye9z

Using Safari on the Mac Part 1 -- The pros and cons of Quick Nav and the 
Web rota.


https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/qtftnl

Using VLC to play upto 1000Radio Stations on the Mac

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/uev995

Working Radio Stream Folder and sub folders containing over 1,000 Radio 
Streams as explained in the above Podcast.


https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/8v58fh

Using VLC to play an RNIB Talking Books on the Mac with Variable Speed.

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/kve0ky.

Easy Music Listening with Column Browser in iTunes

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/gp431y

iTunes Part 2 Using Playlist to listen to RNIB and Mp3 Talking Books

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/e6kohy

Spell Checking on the Mac Part 1

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/uuul6e

Spell Checking on the Mac Part 2

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/z5wvc8

Part 3 Proof Reading on the Mac.

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/b3m395

An Introduction to the QFeed RSS Newsreader on the Mac

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/02uu48

Adding an RSS Feed from Safari to QFeed.

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/tr5unm

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Re: Can someone please post current directions for making the preview pane go away

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Donna,

Whenever I’ve had to remove the preview pane using the trackpad, what I’ve done 
is to press down on the trackpad with one finger, and stroke the trackpad 
towards me with another finger. However, it may depend on your trackpad 
settings in System Preferences. Here are my settings:

Point & Click: all checkboxes unchecked;
Scroll & Zoom: the Scroll direction: natural checkbox is checked, the Zoom in 
or out checkbox is checked, the Smart zoom checkbox is unchecked, and the 
Rotate checkbox is checked.
More Gestures: all checkboxes unchecked.

Obviously, you have to turn off Trackpad Commander to use the trackpad for this 
purpose.

Cheers,

Anne


> On 28 Oct 2014, at 16:26, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim,
> 
> When I do this, when I go to press and drag on the trackpad, I'm just taken 
> over into the preview pane.  Any idea what I might be doing wrong?  thanks 
> for the help.
> Cheers,

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Re: Can someone please post current directions for making the preview pane go away

[Kliphton]

What is the big issue with the preview pain?  I just go to system prefs in 
mail, go to viewing, set the preview message option to none, use my favorites 1 
threw 9, and I see no preview, and mail works perfectly.  JMO
On Oct 28, 2014, at 11:48 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
> Hello Donna,
> 
> Whenever I’ve had to remove the preview pane using the trackpad, what I’ve 
> done is to press down on the trackpad with one finger, and stroke the 
> trackpad towards me with another finger. However, it may depend on your 
> trackpad settings in System Preferences. Here are my settings:
> 
> Point & Click: all checkboxes unchecked;
> Scroll & Zoom: the Scroll direction: natural checkbox is checked, the Zoom in 
> or out checkbox is checked, the Smart zoom checkbox is unchecked, and the 
> Rotate checkbox is checked.
> More Gestures: all checkboxes unchecked.
> 
> Obviously, you have to turn off Trackpad Commander to use the trackpad for 
> this purpose.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
>> On 28 Oct 2014, at 16:26, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Tim,
>> 
>> When I do this, when I go to press and drag on the trackpad, I'm just taken 
>> over into the preview pane.  Any idea what I might be doing wrong?  thanks 
>> for the help.
>> Cheers,
> 
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Re: Can someone please post current directions for making the preview pane go away

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi Donna,

It looks like you missed the Horizontal Splitter when you performed the drag, 
that would be why the file is on your Desktop.  What happened was that the 
message itself was dragged to the Desktop instead of the splitter being dragged 
to the bottom of the screen.  I did take a minute to try this with my own 
installation of Yosemite here and the process does work as outlined.  As Anne 
mentioned, make sure that Trackpad commander is off when performing this task.  
Also, make sure you do the VO-cmd-f5 to bring the mouse pointer to the 
Horizontal Splitter, just trusting that cursors follow each other is not 
enough.  If you’re not sure if your mouse has properly focused on the 
Horizontal Splitter, Interact with it first prior to the VO-cmd-f5 action and 
this should ensure proper focus.

Later…

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On Oct 28, 2014, at 9:30 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> And further weirdness, I somehow ended up with a file on my desktop with the 
> subject of this message followed by the suffix dml.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On Oct 28, 2014, at 10:13 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Donna,
>> 
>> My Preview pane settings stuck when I upgraded to Yosemite, so, I’m not 
>> having your same frustration.  Here’s some instructions for you though that  
>> I posted back when Mavericks first was released.  Not sure how, or if they 
>> still work in Yosemite, but it’s probably worth a try.
>> 
>> 1.  Go into Mail Prefs and select the Viewing pane. 
>> 2.  Check to change to Classic View. 
>> 3.  Close Mail Prefs. 
>> 4.  Navigate to the Horizontal Splitter after the Messages Table. 
>> 5.  Press VO-cmd-f5 to make sure the mouse is focused on the Splitter. 
>> 6.  Press down on the Trackpad then drag downwards to the bottom of the 
>> physical Trackpad then release.  This could also be done with a mouse 
>> instead.
>> 
>> You will know that it worked because the splitter will no longer be right 
>> after the Messages Table, it will be the last item at the bottom of the 
>> window.
>> 
>> 7.  Change back into Modern View in the Mail Prefs by unchecking the box, or 
>> stay in Classic view if you prefer.
>> 8.  Close the Mail Prefs.
>> 
>> You will know that the Preview Pane is closed/hidden/disabled by navigating 
>> around the Mail window and you will note a Vertical Splitter before and 
>> after the Messages Column Group.
>> 
>> If it’s not sticking for you, try quitting Mail after getting rid of the 
>> Preview Pane in Classic view.  Once you re-open Mail, you can change back to 
>> the Modern View, and the change should stick.  At least it has for me 
>> numerous times.
>> 
>> HTH.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On Oct 28, 2014, at 7:47 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks, Georgina.  I'm running Yosemite, and your directions aren't working 
>>> here either.  thanks for posting them, though.  Maybe this is just an 
>>> annoying Yosemite thing we have to live with.  I made the preview pane go 
>>> away years ago, and it never came back until I upgraded.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
 On Oct 28, 2014, at 8:38 AM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
 
 Hello Donna,
 
 It would be nice to know that too. However, here’s what I did that worked 
 but I don’t know exactly how it worked.
 
 Go mail prefs, view and tick classic view.
 Go to system prefs, accessibility options and enable mouse keys. You 
 should be able to press option quickly 5 times. That later method doesn’t 
 work on my Yosemite system.
 Now VO right arrow or left arrow, until you hear “Horizontal splitter“.
 Press VO command F5.
 Now attempt to click on that horizontal splitter.
 Using the keyboard, trackpad, cursing it and nearly beating up the machine 
 I could not drag and drop the thing. I really don’t know what I tried and 
 it seemed nothing worked .
 Now go back to mail prefs and take the classic view tick out of the 
 checkbox.
 Upon closing mail prefs, the pest had vanished. How where, why and when it 
 was triggered I don’t know.
 
 A very frustrating experience.
 
 Good luck.
 
 Gena
 
 Georgina Joyce
 Applied Psychologist
 Training and Coaching.
 Because individuals of groups matter!
 
> On 28 Oct 2014, at 12:30, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I think the directions I have for this are from the days of Snow Lion.  
> Can someone post current directions?
> Thanks,
> Donna
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RE: logitec k810 on osx?

[wayne17a]

Hello I use a logitec k750 sola with a mbp and a vm running win 7 pro with
no problems so hope this helps

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Subject: Re: logitec k810 on osx?

Hey, while it might work, I would not recommend doing this. I had a K8 11
which I tried to use with the PC tablet, and the keyboard would
inconsistently stop functioning. I was told by rep at Logitech that because
of some time in the ways, it wasn't advisable to try to use keyboards and
are not compatible with the operating system for which they were intended.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 27, 2014, at 12:11 PM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona
 wrote:
> 
> does the logitec k814 keyboard work on osx?
> Hank
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Re: Can someone please post current directions for making the preview pane go away

[Donna Goodin]

Kliph, Are you running an older OS?  There is no Preview Message option in 
Yosemite system prefs that I can find.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Oct 28, 2014, at 10:55 AM, Kliphton  wrote:
> 
> What is the big issue with the preview pain?  I just go to system prefs in 
> mail, go to viewing, set the preview message option to none, use my favorites 
> 1 threw 9, and I see no preview, and mail works perfectly.  JMO
> On Oct 28, 2014, at 11:48 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Donna,
>> 
>> Whenever I’ve had to remove the preview pane using the trackpad, what I’ve 
>> done is to press down on the trackpad with one finger, and stroke the 
>> trackpad towards me with another finger. However, it may depend on your 
>> trackpad settings in System Preferences. Here are my settings:
>> 
>> Point & Click: all checkboxes unchecked;
>> Scroll & Zoom: the Scroll direction: natural checkbox is checked, the Zoom 
>> in or out checkbox is checked, the Smart zoom checkbox is unchecked, and the 
>> Rotate checkbox is checked.
>> More Gestures: all checkboxes unchecked.
>> 
>> Obviously, you have to turn off Trackpad Commander to use the trackpad for 
>> this purpose.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>>> On 28 Oct 2014, at 16:26, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Tim,
>>> 
>>> When I do this, when I go to press and drag on the trackpad, I'm just taken 
>>> over into the preview pane.  Any idea what I might be doing wrong?  thanks 
>>> for the help.
>>> Cheers,
>> 
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RE: fusion upgrade for yosemite

[wayne17a]

Hello I think fusion 7 is needed if you are running win 8 but I think
running win 7 will be fine on fusion 6 but don't take my word for it hope
this helps 

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Subject: Re: fusion upgrade for yosemite

Hi,

Unfortionnetlly fusion 5 will not work under yosemity.  Fusion 7 should work
fine under both oses.

Matthew


> On Oct 27, 2014, at 11:46 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
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> I'm currently running windows7 in fusionV5 under Mavericks. Will fusionV5
work under yosemite? Also, will fusionV7 work okay under mavericks if I
decide to upgrade fusion, but not OSX quite yet?
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Re: Can someone please post current directions for making the preview pane go away

[Donna Goodin]

Well, I have no idea why, but it's gone! lol.  I did change my trackpad 
settings according to Anne's directions, but it still didn't work a couple of 
times after that.  So, I have no clue why it finally worked, but thanks Anne 
and Tim, for the help.  Looking forward to a lot less VO jabber now.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Oct 28, 2014, at 10:55 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna,
> 
> It looks like you missed the Horizontal Splitter when you performed the drag, 
> that would be why the file is on your Desktop.  What happened was that the 
> message itself was dragged to the Desktop instead of the splitter being 
> dragged to the bottom of the screen.  I did take a minute to try this with my 
> own installation of Yosemite here and the process does work as outlined.  As 
> Anne mentioned, make sure that Trackpad commander is off when performing this 
> task.  Also, make sure you do the VO-cmd-f5 to bring the mouse pointer to the 
> Horizontal Splitter, just trusting that cursors follow each other is not 
> enough.  If you’re not sure if your mouse has properly focused on the 
> Horizontal Splitter, Interact with it first prior to the VO-cmd-f5 action and 
> this should ensure proper focus.
> 
> Later…
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Oct 28, 2014, at 9:30 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> And further weirdness, I somehow ended up with a file on my desktop with the 
>> subject of this message followed by the suffix dml.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On Oct 28, 2014, at 10:13 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Donna,
>>> 
>>> My Preview pane settings stuck when I upgraded to Yosemite, so, I’m not 
>>> having your same frustration.  Here’s some instructions for you though that 
>>>  I posted back when Mavericks first was released.  Not sure how, or if they 
>>> still work in Yosemite, but it’s probably worth a try.
>>> 
>>> 1.  Go into Mail Prefs and select the Viewing pane. 
>>> 2.  Check to change to Classic View. 
>>> 3.  Close Mail Prefs. 
>>> 4.  Navigate to the Horizontal Splitter after the Messages Table. 
>>> 5.  Press VO-cmd-f5 to make sure the mouse is focused on the Splitter. 
>>> 6.  Press down on the Trackpad then drag downwards to the bottom of the 
>>> physical Trackpad then release.  This could also be done with a mouse 
>>> instead.
>>> 
>>> You will know that it worked because the splitter will no longer be right 
>>> after the Messages Table, it will be the last item at the bottom of the 
>>> window.
>>> 
>>> 7.  Change back into Modern View in the Mail Prefs by unchecking the box, 
>>> or stay in Classic view if you prefer.
>>> 8.  Close the Mail Prefs.
>>> 
>>> You will know that the Preview Pane is closed/hidden/disabled by navigating 
>>> around the Mail window and you will note a Vertical Splitter before and 
>>> after the Messages Column Group.
>>> 
>>> If it’s not sticking for you, try quitting Mail after getting rid of the 
>>> Preview Pane in Classic view.  Once you re-open Mail, you can change back 
>>> to the Modern View, and the change should stick.  At least it has for me 
>>> numerous times.
>>> 
>>> HTH.
>>> 
>>> Later…
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
 On Oct 28, 2014, at 7:47 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
 
 Thanks, Georgina.  I'm running Yosemite, and your directions aren't 
 working here either.  thanks for posting them, though.  Maybe this is just 
 an annoying Yosemite thing we have to live with.  I made the preview pane 
 go away years ago, and it never came back until I upgraded.
 Cheers,
 Donna
> On Oct 28, 2014, at 8:38 AM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
> 
> Hello Donna,
> 
> It would be nice to know that too. However, here’s what I did that worked 
> but I don’t know exactly how it worked.
> 
> Go mail prefs, view and tick classic view.
> Go to system prefs, accessibility options and enable mouse keys. You 
> should be able to press option quickly 5 times. That later method doesn’t 
> work on my Yosemite system.
> Now VO right arrow or left arrow, until you hear “Horizontal splitter“.
> Press VO command F5.
> Now attempt to click on that horizontal splitter.
> Using the keyboard, trackpad, cursing it and nearly beating up the 
> machine I could not drag and drop the thing. I really don’t know what I 
> tried and it seemed nothing worked .
> Now go back to mail prefs and take the classic view tick out of the 
> checkbox.
> Upon closing mail prefs, the pest had vanished. How where, why and when 
> it was triggered I don’t know.
> 
> A very frustrating experience.
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> Gena
> 
> Georgina Joyce
> Applied Psychologist
> Training and Coaching.
> Because individuals of groups matter!
> 
>> On 28 Oct 2014, at 12:30, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I think the directions I have for this are from the days of Snow Lion.  
>> Can someone post curr

Re: Can someone please post current directions for making the preview pane go away

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Regarding Kliphton’s solution, I believe that he is referring to the 
Preferences in Mail itself, not System Preferences.  Interesting solution 
though.  It works as we hope when in the Modern or Standard view for removing 
Preview pane issues but not while in Classic view.  One must still drag the 
Horizontal Splitter down when Classic view is your preference.  Thanks for the 
fresh view Kliphton.

Later…

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On Oct 28, 2014, at 10:00 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Kliph, Are you running an older OS?  There is no Preview Message option in 
> Yosemite system prefs that I can find.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On Oct 28, 2014, at 10:55 AM, Kliphton  wrote:
>> 
>> What is the big issue with the preview pain?  I just go to system prefs in 
>> mail, go to viewing, set the preview message option to none, use my 
>> favorites 1 threw 9, and I see no preview, and mail works perfectly.  JMO
>> On Oct 28, 2014, at 11:48 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Donna,
>>> 
>>> Whenever I’ve had to remove the preview pane using the trackpad, what I’ve 
>>> done is to press down on the trackpad with one finger, and stroke the 
>>> trackpad towards me with another finger. However, it may depend on your 
>>> trackpad settings in System Preferences. Here are my settings:
>>> 
>>> Point & Click: all checkboxes unchecked;
>>> Scroll & Zoom: the Scroll direction: natural checkbox is checked, the Zoom 
>>> in or out checkbox is checked, the Smart zoom checkbox is unchecked, and 
>>> the Rotate checkbox is checked.
>>> More Gestures: all checkboxes unchecked.
>>> 
>>> Obviously, you have to turn off Trackpad Commander to use the trackpad for 
>>> this purpose.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
>>> 
 On 28 Oct 2014, at 16:26, Donna Goodin  wrote:
 
 Hi Tim,
 
 When I do this, when I go to press and drag on the trackpad, I'm just 
 taken over into the preview pane.  Any idea what I might be doing wrong?  
 thanks for the help.
 Cheers,
>>> 
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Re: Can someone please post current directions for making the preview pane go away

[Donna Goodin]

Hi again,

Just one more question.  For grins, I switched out of Classic view.  Now it 
looks like there are three separate mailbox lists, two to the left of the 
vertical splitter, and one way over on the right, past the toolbar.  why these 
three separate mailbox lists?  do they do the same thing?
Thanks,
Donna
> On Oct 28, 2014, at 11:16 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Regarding Kliphton’s solution, I believe that he is referring to the 
> Preferences in Mail itself, not System Preferences.  Interesting solution 
> though.  It works as we hope when in the Modern or Standard view for removing 
> Preview pane issues but not while in Classic view.  One must still drag the 
> Horizontal Splitter down when Classic view is your preference.  Thanks for 
> the fresh view Kliphton.
> 
> Later…
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Oct 28, 2014, at 10:00 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> Kliph, Are you running an older OS?  There is no Preview Message option in 
>> Yosemite system prefs that I can find.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On Oct 28, 2014, at 10:55 AM, Kliphton  wrote:
>>> 
>>> What is the big issue with the preview pain?  I just go to system prefs in 
>>> mail, go to viewing, set the preview message option to none, use my 
>>> favorites 1 threw 9, and I see no preview, and mail works perfectly.  JMO
>>> On Oct 28, 2014, at 11:48 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
 
 Hello Donna,
 
 Whenever I’ve had to remove the preview pane using the trackpad, what I’ve 
 done is to press down on the trackpad with one finger, and stroke the 
 trackpad towards me with another finger. However, it may depend on your 
 trackpad settings in System Preferences. Here are my settings:
 
 Point & Click: all checkboxes unchecked;
 Scroll & Zoom: the Scroll direction: natural checkbox is checked, the Zoom 
 in or out checkbox is checked, the Smart zoom checkbox is unchecked, and 
 the Rotate checkbox is checked.
 More Gestures: all checkboxes unchecked.
 
 Obviously, you have to turn off Trackpad Commander to use the trackpad for 
 this purpose.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
> On 28 Oct 2014, at 16:26, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim,
> 
> When I do this, when I go to press and drag on the trackpad, I'm just 
> taken over into the preview pane.  Any idea what I might be doing wrong?  
> thanks for the help.
> Cheers,
 
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Re: Can someone please post current directions for making the preview pane go away

[Kliphton]

Sorry, lines for message preview may be the correct phrase.  But I set this to 
0.
> On Oct 28, 2014, at 12:00 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Kliph, Are you running an older OS?  There is no Preview Message option in 
> Yosemite system prefs that I can find.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On Oct 28, 2014, at 10:55 AM, Kliphton  wrote:
>> 
>> What is the big issue with the preview pain?  I just go to system prefs in 
>> mail, go to viewing, set the preview message option to none, use my 
>> favorites 1 threw 9, and I see no preview, and mail works perfectly.  JMO
>> On Oct 28, 2014, at 11:48 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Donna,
>>> 
>>> Whenever I’ve had to remove the preview pane using the trackpad, what I’ve 
>>> done is to press down on the trackpad with one finger, and stroke the 
>>> trackpad towards me with another finger. However, it may depend on your 
>>> trackpad settings in System Preferences. Here are my settings:
>>> 
>>> Point & Click: all checkboxes unchecked;
>>> Scroll & Zoom: the Scroll direction: natural checkbox is checked, the Zoom 
>>> in or out checkbox is checked, the Smart zoom checkbox is unchecked, and 
>>> the Rotate checkbox is checked.
>>> More Gestures: all checkboxes unchecked.
>>> 
>>> Obviously, you have to turn off Trackpad Commander to use the trackpad for 
>>> this purpose.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
>>> 
 On 28 Oct 2014, at 16:26, Donna Goodin  wrote:
 
 Hi Tim,
 
 When I do this, when I go to press and drag on the trackpad, I'm just 
 taken over into the preview pane.  Any idea what I might be doing wrong?  
 thanks for the help.
 Cheers,
>>> 
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Re: Can someone please post current directions for making the preview pane go away

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Actually, to the right of the Toolbar, there is usually the Favourites Bar and 
the MailBoxes list and a few pop-up menu for MailBoxes etc.  To the left should 
be the Messages list and some headings referring to which MailBox has focus.

Later…

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On Oct 28, 2014, at 10:26 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Hi again,
> 
> Just one more question.  For grins, I switched out of Classic view.  Now it 
> looks like there are three separate mailbox lists, two to the left of the 
> vertical splitter, and one way over on the right, past the toolbar.  why 
> these three separate mailbox lists?  do they do the same thing?
> Thanks,
> Donna
>> On Oct 28, 2014, at 11:16 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Regarding Kliphton’s solution, I believe that he is referring to the 
>> Preferences in Mail itself, not System Preferences.  Interesting solution 
>> though.  It works as we hope when in the Modern or Standard view for 
>> removing Preview pane issues but not while in Classic view.  One must still 
>> drag the Horizontal Splitter down when Classic view is your preference.  
>> Thanks for the fresh view Kliphton.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On Oct 28, 2014, at 10:00 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Kliph, Are you running an older OS?  There is no Preview Message option in 
>>> Yosemite system prefs that I can find.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
 On Oct 28, 2014, at 10:55 AM, Kliphton  wrote:
 
 What is the big issue with the preview pain?  I just go to system prefs in 
 mail, go to viewing, set the preview message option to none, use my 
 favorites 1 threw 9, and I see no preview, and mail works perfectly.  JMO
 On Oct 28, 2014, at 11:48 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
> Hello Donna,
> 
> Whenever I’ve had to remove the preview pane using the trackpad, what 
> I’ve done is to press down on the trackpad with one finger, and stroke 
> the trackpad towards me with another finger. However, it may depend on 
> your trackpad settings in System Preferences. Here are my settings:
> 
> Point & Click: all checkboxes unchecked;
> Scroll & Zoom: the Scroll direction: natural checkbox is checked, the 
> Zoom in or out checkbox is checked, the Smart zoom checkbox is unchecked, 
> and the Rotate checkbox is checked.
> More Gestures: all checkboxes unchecked.
> 
> Obviously, you have to turn off Trackpad Commander to use the trackpad 
> for this purpose.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
>> On 28 Oct 2014, at 16:26, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Tim,
>> 
>> When I do this, when I go to press and drag on the trackpad, I'm just 
>> taken over into the preview pane.  Any idea what I might be doing wrong? 
>>  thanks for the help.
>> Cheers,
> 
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Re: fusion upgrade for yosemite

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

Fusion 6 supports Windows 8 so you shouldn't have to upgrade just for 
that. Actually, after reading through Fusion 7 improvements, the only 
one interesting to me is power savings for laptops, but that hasn't 
really been an issue for me.


http://blogs.vmware.com/teamfusion/2014/09/vmware-fusion-7-vmware-fusion-7-pro-available-today.html

CB

On 10/28/14, 12:03 PM, wayne17a wrote:

Hello I think fusion 7 is needed if you are running win 8 but I think
running win 7 will be fine on fusion 6 but don't take my word for it hope
this helps

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Subject: Re: fusion upgrade for yosemite

Hi,

Unfortionnetlly fusion 5 will not work under yosemity.  Fusion 7 should work
fine under both oses.

Matthew



On Oct 27, 2014, at 11:46 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:

I'm currently running windows7 in fusionV5 under Mavericks. Will fusionV5

work under yosemite? Also, will fusionV7 work okay under mavericks if I
decide to upgrade fusion, but not OSX quite yet?

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Re: Can someone please post current directions for making the preview pane go away

[Donna Goodin]

Hi Kliff,

I found something that says list preview which I think is your setting.  
Wouldn't have worked for me b/c I was using classic view, but thanks for the 
suggestion.  I'll keep it in mind should I change to standard view.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Oct 28, 2014, at 11:32 AM, Kliphton  wrote:
> 
> Sorry, lines for message preview may be the correct phrase.  But I set this 
> to 0.
>> On Oct 28, 2014, at 12:00 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> Kliph, Are you running an older OS?  There is no Preview Message option in 
>> Yosemite system prefs that I can find.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On Oct 28, 2014, at 10:55 AM, Kliphton  wrote:
>>> 
>>> What is the big issue with the preview pain?  I just go to system prefs in 
>>> mail, go to viewing, set the preview message option to none, use my 
>>> favorites 1 threw 9, and I see no preview, and mail works perfectly.  JMO
>>> On Oct 28, 2014, at 11:48 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
 
 Hello Donna,
 
 Whenever I’ve had to remove the preview pane using the trackpad, what I’ve 
 done is to press down on the trackpad with one finger, and stroke the 
 trackpad towards me with another finger. However, it may depend on your 
 trackpad settings in System Preferences. Here are my settings:
 
 Point & Click: all checkboxes unchecked;
 Scroll & Zoom: the Scroll direction: natural checkbox is checked, the Zoom 
 in or out checkbox is checked, the Smart zoom checkbox is unchecked, and 
 the Rotate checkbox is checked.
 More Gestures: all checkboxes unchecked.
 
 Obviously, you have to turn off Trackpad Commander to use the trackpad for 
 this purpose.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
> On 28 Oct 2014, at 16:26, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim,
> 
> When I do this, when I go to press and drag on the trackpad, I'm just 
> taken over into the preview pane.  Any idea what I might be doing wrong?  
> thanks for the help.
> Cheers,
 
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Re: using a focus braille display with the mac

[Joe Quinn]

didn't relize that using  the focus on  the mac was so time consuming wow. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 28, 2014, at 10:34 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
> Hello Joe,
> 
> You can only assign VoiceOver commands to a Braille display, or to any 
> commander for that matter. Cmd-q is a standard Mac command and not a 
> VoiceOver command. Using a Braille display to drive your Mac, you’ll need to 
> go into the menus and click the appropriate command.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
>> On 28 Oct 2014, at 15:00, Joe Quinn  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> is there a way to assign specific braille commands to keyboard commands? for 
>> instance, dots 1-2-3-4-5+spacebar to  the command q keys on the keyboard? 
>> thanks!
>>> On Oct 27, 2014, at 9:21 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi there
>>> First, try pairing it with your Mac and please let me know how you come 
>>> out. It was a problem under Mavericks, and I have a focus 14 paired with my 
>>> Mac.however, I had a terrible time getting it to work. I finally had to go 
>>> for a Genius Bar appointment to get it to work.
>>> 
>>> Having said all that, once you do get it to work, there are commands which 
>>> are common to braille displays that have keyboard input. The tab command 
>>> that you mentioned,four instance, is done with the T and the space together.
>>> A lot of the commands that you are using on the iPhone will also work on 
>>> your Mac. Not all of them exactly like it, but quite a few of them.
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> GigiSent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Oct 27, 2014, at 8:24 PM, Joe Quinn  wrote:
 
 I’ve got a focus 14 blue and want to know how to use it more effectively 
 with my  mid 2012 macbook pro running Yosemite. anyone whose using one,  
 how do you move around with the mac? Also, can you use it independent of a 
 keyboard, like can you do command tab and the like? Thanks for any help 
 you can give. It’s definitely more time consuming than the iPhone. , I 
 know this much.
 
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RE: Body cams

[Rick Alfaro]

Someone recently posted an audio boo about a body cam they purchased and were 
using successfully. It was the Go Hero 3 White and can be found on Amazon for 
about $200. It was supposedly very accessible and easy to use. Unfortunately, I 
don't have that person's email address but his name is Kevin Reeves, a blind 
musician. Perhaps with that info you can find him somewhere and ask him about 
the camera.



Best regards,

Rick Alfaro

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Subject: Body cams

Anyone know of body cams similar to what has been talked about on 
the news for police? Something that is acccessible and easy to transfer 
videos to the Mac or iOS device?

 From The Believer. . .
  . . . what if it were true?
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

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Re: Can someone please post current directions for making the preview pane go away

[Donna Goodin]

Hi Tim,

Moving to the right from the messages column, the first thing I see are two 
listings of mailboxes.  then I go past the vertical splitter, see the toolbar, 
the favorites bar, and then another listing of mailboxes.  So why all these 
different mailbox lists?
Cheers,
Donna

> On Oct 28, 2014, at 11:33 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Actually, to the right of the Toolbar, there is usually the Favourites Bar 
> and the MailBoxes list and a few pop-up menu for MailBoxes etc.  To the left 
> should be the Messages list and some headings referring to which MailBox has 
> focus.
> 
> Later…
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Oct 28, 2014, at 10:26 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi again,
>> 
>> Just one more question.  For grins, I switched out of Classic view.  Now it 
>> looks like there are three separate mailbox lists, two to the left of the 
>> vertical splitter, and one way over on the right, past the toolbar.  why 
>> these three separate mailbox lists?  do they do the same thing?
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
>>> On Oct 28, 2014, at 11:16 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Regarding Kliphton’s solution, I believe that he is referring to the 
>>> Preferences in Mail itself, not System Preferences.  Interesting solution 
>>> though.  It works as we hope when in the Modern or Standard view for 
>>> removing Preview pane issues but not while in Classic view.  One must still 
>>> drag the Horizontal Splitter down when Classic view is your preference.  
>>> Thanks for the fresh view Kliphton.
>>> 
>>> Later…
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
 On Oct 28, 2014, at 10:00 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
 
 Kliph, Are you running an older OS?  There is no Preview Message option in 
 Yosemite system prefs that I can find.
 Cheers,
 Donna
> On Oct 28, 2014, at 10:55 AM, Kliphton  wrote:
> 
> What is the big issue with the preview pain?  I just go to system prefs 
> in mail, go to viewing, set the preview message option to none, use my 
> favorites 1 threw 9, and I see no preview, and mail works perfectly.  JMO
> On Oct 28, 2014, at 11:48 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Donna,
>> 
>> Whenever I’ve had to remove the preview pane using the trackpad, what 
>> I’ve done is to press down on the trackpad with one finger, and stroke 
>> the trackpad towards me with another finger. However, it may depend on 
>> your trackpad settings in System Preferences. Here are my settings:
>> 
>> Point & Click: all checkboxes unchecked;
>> Scroll & Zoom: the Scroll direction: natural checkbox is checked, the 
>> Zoom in or out checkbox is checked, the Smart zoom checkbox is 
>> unchecked, and the Rotate checkbox is checked.
>> More Gestures: all checkboxes unchecked.
>> 
>> Obviously, you have to turn off Trackpad Commander to use the trackpad 
>> for this purpose.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>>> On 28 Oct 2014, at 16:26, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Tim,
>>> 
>>> When I do this, when I go to press and drag on the trackpad, I'm just 
>>> taken over into the preview pane.  Any idea what I might be doing 
>>> wrong?  thanks for the help.
>>> Cheers,
>> 
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shark BT keyboard?

[Kliphton]

I searched for this keyboard, and can’t find it, does anyone have the link?

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Re: Can someone please post current directions for making the preview pane go away

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Not sure why your items are appearing as MailBox lists.  The MailBox items 
prior to the ToolBar should just be titles or Headings announcing what Mailbox 
has focus at this point in time along with the number of Unread messages in 
that MailBox.  Try Interacting with them and try determine if they are lists or 
textual items.  There should only be one actual MailBox list which is located 
one VO-right of the Favourites Bar.

Later…

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On Oct 28, 2014, at 10:43 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim,
> 
> Moving to the right from the messages column, the first thing I see are two 
> listings of mailboxes.  then I go past the vertical splitter, see the 
> toolbar, the favorites bar, and then another listing of mailboxes.  So why 
> all these different mailbox lists?
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Oct 28, 2014, at 11:33 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Actually, to the right of the Toolbar, there is usually the Favourites Bar 
>> and the MailBoxes list and a few pop-up menu for MailBoxes etc.  To the left 
>> should be the Messages list and some headings referring to which MailBox has 
>> focus.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On Oct 28, 2014, at 10:26 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi again,
>>> 
>>> Just one more question.  For grins, I switched out of Classic view.  Now it 
>>> looks like there are three separate mailbox lists, two to the left of the 
>>> vertical splitter, and one way over on the right, past the toolbar.  why 
>>> these three separate mailbox lists?  do they do the same thing?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Donna
 On Oct 28, 2014, at 11:16 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Regarding Kliphton’s solution, I believe that he is referring to the 
 Preferences in Mail itself, not System Preferences.  Interesting solution 
 though.  It works as we hope when in the Modern or Standard view for 
 removing Preview pane issues but not while in Classic view.  One must 
 still drag the Horizontal Splitter down when Classic view is your 
 preference.  Thanks for the fresh view Kliphton.
 
 Later…
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
> On Oct 28, 2014, at 10:00 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Kliph, Are you running an older OS?  There is no Preview Message option 
> in Yosemite system prefs that I can find.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On Oct 28, 2014, at 10:55 AM, Kliphton  wrote:
>> 
>> What is the big issue with the preview pain?  I just go to system prefs 
>> in mail, go to viewing, set the preview message option to none, use my 
>> favorites 1 threw 9, and I see no preview, and mail works perfectly.  JMO
>> On Oct 28, 2014, at 11:48 AM, Anne Robertson  
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Donna,
>>> 
>>> Whenever I’ve had to remove the preview pane using the trackpad, what 
>>> I’ve done is to press down on the trackpad with one finger, and stroke 
>>> the trackpad towards me with another finger. However, it may depend on 
>>> your trackpad settings in System Preferences. Here are my settings:
>>> 
>>> Point & Click: all checkboxes unchecked;
>>> Scroll & Zoom: the Scroll direction: natural checkbox is checked, the 
>>> Zoom in or out checkbox is checked, the Smart zoom checkbox is 
>>> unchecked, and the Rotate checkbox is checked.
>>> More Gestures: all checkboxes unchecked.
>>> 
>>> Obviously, you have to turn off Trackpad Commander to use the trackpad 
>>> for this purpose.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
>>> 
 On 28 Oct 2014, at 16:26, Donna Goodin  wrote:
 
 Hi Tim,
 
 When I do this, when I go to press and drag on the trackpad, I'm just 
 taken over into the preview pane.  Any idea what I might be doing 
 wrong?  thanks for the help.
 Cheers,
>>> 
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Re: Yosemite: The ghost in the machine?

[Jeffrey Shockley]

Hello,
I have also had problems with one of my Macs when putting it to sleep. I 
am experiencing the same behavior when I wake it back up again. I can 
get the VoiceOver sounds to play, however, no matter how many times I 
try to toggle VoiceOver on and off, I get nothing, and I am forced to 
reboot the machine to get VoiceOver back. My Macs are up-to-date on 
everything. Sometimes, a permissions repair will help for a little 
while, but, sometimes not. It's weird. I did not have this behavior in 
Mavericks.
I have also had a problem with slow download speeds. What I did was to 
go into System Preferences, then to Network, and then find Wi-Fi in the 
list, click the Advanced Button, and under the Wi-Fi Tab, there is a 
table. This table lists the networks you have connected to before. Once 
you find the network you are connected to in that table, VO right until 
you get to the "Remove Profile" button. Then, click that and tell it 
that you are sure that you want to do this, as a confirmation dialog 
comes up asking you if you are sure.
Then, click OK. Then, close System Preferences being sure to save your 
changes.
Then, turn Wi-Fi Off, and back on again. Doing this will actually forget 
the network. Then, find your network in the list of available networks, 
and reconnect to it.

I did that, and it fixed the problem for me.
I apologize if I have forgotten anything, I am doing this completely 
from memory, and do not have any macs here to look at to make sure I 
gave the right directions.

I hope this helps some,
Jeffrey
On 10/28/2014 10:48 AM, Mark Baxter wrote:
Ever since upgrading my MBP15 (built around 2008, 4G RAM), random 
things have been changing, every time I put my Mac to sleep and wake 
it up again.  For example:  Safari will not access my banking website 
(www.usbank.com ), and shows an empty HTML pane 
after I enter my password.  However, I can log into the same website 
with the same user name and password with my iPad’s US Bank app, no 
problem.  Every other page seems to load fine, but my download speed 
continues to be low.


The next odd thing was that, when I woke my Mac this morning, 
VoiceOver wouldn’t talk, nor did shutting it off and relaunching it 
help; I had to shut off the mac and restart it to regain VO.  When I 
did this, the system voice had changed from Samantha to Alex, even 
though I downloaded the Samantha voice upgrade.  Very odd.  One day, 
I’ll wake up my Mac and it’ll be talking in Swahili backwards with a 
German accent.


 • Mark BurningHawk Baxter
http://MarkBurningHawk.net/

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Re: Yosemite: The ghost in the machine?

[Mark Baxter]

Thanks, Jeffrey; I didn’t think to do a forget and restore on the WIFI, but 
removed a lot of networks I will never connect to again recently.  I have done 
about three permission repairs, and I, too, had no luck toggling VoiceOver 
repeatedly, thus my shutting it down cold by holding down the power button til 
it hard-crashed.  VO works fine now.


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Re: Can someone please post current directions for making the preview pane go away

[Donna Goodin]

Strange.  Mine seems to act as lists, that is to say, I can change the selected 
mailbox from any of the three places.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Oct 28, 2014, at 11:49 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Not sure why your items are appearing as MailBox lists.  The MailBox items 
> prior to the ToolBar should just be titles or Headings announcing what 
> Mailbox has focus at this point in time along with the number of Unread 
> messages in that MailBox.  Try Interacting with them and try determine if 
> they are lists or textual items.  There should only be one actual MailBox 
> list which is located one VO-right of the Favourites Bar.
> 
> Later…
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Oct 28, 2014, at 10:43 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Tim,
>> 
>> Moving to the right from the messages column, the first thing I see are two 
>> listings of mailboxes.  then I go past the vertical splitter, see the 
>> toolbar, the favorites bar, and then another listing of mailboxes.  So why 
>> all these different mailbox lists?
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Oct 28, 2014, at 11:33 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Actually, to the right of the Toolbar, there is usually the Favourites Bar 
>>> and the MailBoxes list and a few pop-up menu for MailBoxes etc.  To the 
>>> left should be the Messages list and some headings referring to which 
>>> MailBox has focus.
>>> 
>>> Later…
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
 On Oct 28, 2014, at 10:26 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
 
 Hi again,
 
 Just one more question.  For grins, I switched out of Classic view.  Now 
 it looks like there are three separate mailbox lists, two to the left of 
 the vertical splitter, and one way over on the right, past the toolbar.  
 why these three separate mailbox lists?  do they do the same thing?
 Thanks,
 Donna
> On Oct 28, 2014, at 11:16 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Regarding Kliphton’s solution, I believe that he is referring to the 
> Preferences in Mail itself, not System Preferences.  Interesting solution 
> though.  It works as we hope when in the Modern or Standard view for 
> removing Preview pane issues but not while in Classic view.  One must 
> still drag the Horizontal Splitter down when Classic view is your 
> preference.  Thanks for the fresh view Kliphton.
> 
> Later…
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Oct 28, 2014, at 10:00 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> Kliph, Are you running an older OS?  There is no Preview Message option 
>> in Yosemite system prefs that I can find.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On Oct 28, 2014, at 10:55 AM, Kliphton  wrote:
>>> 
>>> What is the big issue with the preview pain?  I just go to system prefs 
>>> in mail, go to viewing, set the preview message option to none, use my 
>>> favorites 1 threw 9, and I see no preview, and mail works perfectly.  
>>> JMO
>>> On Oct 28, 2014, at 11:48 AM, Anne Robertson  
>>> wrote:
 
 Hello Donna,
 
 Whenever I’ve had to remove the preview pane using the trackpad, what 
 I’ve done is to press down on the trackpad with one finger, and stroke 
 the trackpad towards me with another finger. However, it may depend on 
 your trackpad settings in System Preferences. Here are my settings:
 
 Point & Click: all checkboxes unchecked;
 Scroll & Zoom: the Scroll direction: natural checkbox is checked, the 
 Zoom in or out checkbox is checked, the Smart zoom checkbox is 
 unchecked, and the Rotate checkbox is checked.
 More Gestures: all checkboxes unchecked.
 
 Obviously, you have to turn off Trackpad Commander to use the trackpad 
 for this purpose.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
> On 28 Oct 2014, at 16:26, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim,
> 
> When I do this, when I go to press and drag on the trackpad, I'm just 
> taken over into the preview pane.  Any idea what I might be doing 
> wrong?  thanks for the help.
> Cheers,
 
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Re: logitec k810 on osx?

[Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona]

can that one work on ios and android devices?

On 10/28/2014 9:00 AM, wayne17a wrote:

Hello I use a logitec k750 sola with a mbp and a vm running win 7 pro with
no problems so hope this helps

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Subject: Re: logitec k810 on osx?

Hey, while it might work, I would not recommend doing this. I had a K8 11
which I tried to use with the PC tablet, and the keyboard would
inconsistently stop functioning. I was told by rep at Logitech that because
of some time in the ways, it wasn't advisable to try to use keyboards and
are not compatible with the operating system for which they were intended.

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 27, 2014, at 12:11 PM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona

 wrote:

does the logitec k814 keyboard work on osx?
Hank

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Re: Can someone please post current directions for making the preview pane go away

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Strange indeed.  If you are just using arrow keys, then the reason the Mailbox 
is changing is due to keyboard focus.  Those items will not usually gain 
keyboard focus since they are not editable or modifiable elements.  If when you 
Interact and continue holding down your VO keys and the Mailbox still changes, 
then I’m confused as to why you would have that many MailBox lists.

Later…

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On Oct 28, 2014, at 11:50 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Strange.  Mine seems to act as lists, that is to say, I can change the 
> selected mailbox from any of the three places.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On Oct 28, 2014, at 11:49 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Not sure why your items are appearing as MailBox lists.  The MailBox items 
>> prior to the ToolBar should just be titles or Headings announcing what 
>> Mailbox has focus at this point in time along with the number of Unread 
>> messages in that MailBox.  Try Interacting with them and try determine if 
>> they are lists or textual items.  There should only be one actual MailBox 
>> list which is located one VO-right of the Favourites Bar.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On Oct 28, 2014, at 10:43 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Tim,
>>> 
>>> Moving to the right from the messages column, the first thing I see are two 
>>> listings of mailboxes.  then I go past the vertical splitter, see the 
>>> toolbar, the favorites bar, and then another listing of mailboxes.  So why 
>>> all these different mailbox lists?
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
 On Oct 28, 2014, at 11:33 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Actually, to the right of the Toolbar, there is usually the Favourites Bar 
 and the MailBoxes list and a few pop-up menu for MailBoxes etc.  To the 
 left should be the Messages list and some headings referring to which 
 MailBox has focus.
 
 Later…
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
> On Oct 28, 2014, at 10:26 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Hi again,
> 
> Just one more question.  For grins, I switched out of Classic view.  Now 
> it looks like there are three separate mailbox lists, two to the left of 
> the vertical splitter, and one way over on the right, past the toolbar.  
> why these three separate mailbox lists?  do they do the same thing?
> Thanks,
> Donna
>> On Oct 28, 2014, at 11:16 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Regarding Kliphton’s solution, I believe that he is referring to the 
>> Preferences in Mail itself, not System Preferences.  Interesting 
>> solution though.  It works as we hope when in the Modern or Standard 
>> view for removing Preview pane issues but not while in Classic view.  
>> One must still drag the Horizontal Splitter down when Classic view is 
>> your preference.  Thanks for the fresh view Kliphton.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On Oct 28, 2014, at 10:00 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Kliph, Are you running an older OS?  There is no Preview Message option 
>>> in Yosemite system prefs that I can find.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
 On Oct 28, 2014, at 10:55 AM, Kliphton  wrote:
 
 What is the big issue with the preview pain?  I just go to system 
 prefs in mail, go to viewing, set the preview message option to none, 
 use my favorites 1 threw 9, and I see no preview, and mail works 
 perfectly.  JMO
 On Oct 28, 2014, at 11:48 AM, Anne Robertson  
 wrote:
> 
> Hello Donna,
> 
> Whenever I’ve had to remove the preview pane using the trackpad, what 
> I’ve done is to press down on the trackpad with one finger, and 
> stroke the trackpad towards me with another finger. However, it may 
> depend on your trackpad settings in System Preferences. Here are my 
> settings:
> 
> Point & Click: all checkboxes unchecked;
> Scroll & Zoom: the Scroll direction: natural checkbox is checked, the 
> Zoom in or out checkbox is checked, the Smart zoom checkbox is 
> unchecked, and the Rotate checkbox is checked.
> More Gestures: all checkboxes unchecked.
> 
> Obviously, you have to turn off Trackpad Commander to use the 
> trackpad for this purpose.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
>> On 28 Oct 2014, at 16:26, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Tim,
>> 
>> When I do this, when I go to press and drag on the trackpad, I'm 
>> just taken over into the preview pane.  Any idea what I might be 
>> doing wrong?  thanks for the help.
>> Cheers,
> 
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Re: Can someone please post current directions for making the preview pane go away

[Donna Goodin]

Interesting.  You're right, when I interact and use VO-arrow keys, nothing 
changes.  Still the standard view looks very cluttered to me.  I think I'm 
going back to the classic view. :)
Cheers,
Donna
> On Oct 28, 2014, at 1:01 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Strange indeed.  If you are just using arrow keys, then the reason the 
> Mailbox is changing is due to keyboard focus.  Those items will not usually 
> gain keyboard focus since they are not editable or modifiable elements.  If 
> when you Interact and continue holding down your VO keys and the Mailbox 
> still changes, then I’m confused as to why you would have that many MailBox 
> lists.
> 
> Later…
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Oct 28, 2014, at 11:50 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> Strange.  Mine seems to act as lists, that is to say, I can change the 
>> selected mailbox from any of the three places.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On Oct 28, 2014, at 11:49 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Not sure why your items are appearing as MailBox lists.  The MailBox items 
>>> prior to the ToolBar should just be titles or Headings announcing what 
>>> Mailbox has focus at this point in time along with the number of Unread 
>>> messages in that MailBox.  Try Interacting with them and try determine if 
>>> they are lists or textual items.  There should only be one actual MailBox 
>>> list which is located one VO-right of the Favourites Bar.
>>> 
>>> Later…
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
 On Oct 28, 2014, at 10:43 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
 
 Hi Tim,
 
 Moving to the right from the messages column, the first thing I see are 
 two listings of mailboxes.  then I go past the vertical splitter, see the 
 toolbar, the favorites bar, and then another listing of mailboxes.  So why 
 all these different mailbox lists?
 Cheers,
 Donna
 
> On Oct 28, 2014, at 11:33 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Actually, to the right of the Toolbar, there is usually the Favourites 
> Bar and the MailBoxes list and a few pop-up menu for MailBoxes etc.  To 
> the left should be the Messages list and some headings referring to which 
> MailBox has focus.
> 
> Later…
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Oct 28, 2014, at 10:26 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi again,
>> 
>> Just one more question.  For grins, I switched out of Classic view.  Now 
>> it looks like there are three separate mailbox lists, two to the left of 
>> the vertical splitter, and one way over on the right, past the toolbar.  
>> why these three separate mailbox lists?  do they do the same thing?
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
>>> On Oct 28, 2014, at 11:16 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Regarding Kliphton’s solution, I believe that he is referring to the 
>>> Preferences in Mail itself, not System Preferences.  Interesting 
>>> solution though.  It works as we hope when in the Modern or Standard 
>>> view for removing Preview pane issues but not while in Classic view.  
>>> One must still drag the Horizontal Splitter down when Classic view is 
>>> your preference.  Thanks for the fresh view Kliphton.
>>> 
>>> Later…
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
 On Oct 28, 2014, at 10:00 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
 
 Kliph, Are you running an older OS?  There is no Preview Message 
 option in Yosemite system prefs that I can find.
 Cheers,
 Donna
> On Oct 28, 2014, at 10:55 AM, Kliphton  
> wrote:
> 
> What is the big issue with the preview pain?  I just go to system 
> prefs in mail, go to viewing, set the preview message option to none, 
> use my favorites 1 threw 9, and I see no preview, and mail works 
> perfectly.  JMO
> On Oct 28, 2014, at 11:48 AM, Anne Robertson  
> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Donna,
>> 
>> Whenever I’ve had to remove the preview pane using the trackpad, 
>> what I’ve done is to press down on the trackpad with one finger, and 
>> stroke the trackpad towards me with another finger. However, it may 
>> depend on your trackpad settings in System Preferences. Here are my 
>> settings:
>> 
>> Point & Click: all checkboxes unchecked;
>> Scroll & Zoom: the Scroll direction: natural checkbox is checked, 
>> the Zoom in or out checkbox is checked, the Smart zoom checkbox is 
>> unchecked, and the Rotate checkbox is checked.
>> More Gestures: all checkboxes unchecked.
>> 
>> Obviously, you have to turn off Trackpad Commander to use the 
>> trackpad for this purpose.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>>> On 28 Oct 

Phone calls not working on the iPad

[Aleeha Dudley]

Hello all,
I recently updated my iPad mini first-generation to iOS 8.1. I have been trying 
to use it to make a phone call, but I have had no luck. Both devices are on the 
same Wi-Fi network and are right next to each other, so it seems to neither be 
a network or proximity issue. Anyone have any suggestions? I have turned Wi-Fi 
off and back on on both devices.I have also checked to make sure that the 
setting for cellular is turned on on both the iPhone and the iPad.thanks.
Aleeha

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Re: Phone calls not working on the iPad

[christopher hallsworth]

Are they signed into the same iCloud account?
> On 28 Oct 2014, at 18:52, Aleeha Dudley  wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> I recently updated my iPad mini first-generation to iOS 8.1. I have been 
> trying to use it to make a phone call, but I have had no luck. Both devices 
> are on the same Wi-Fi network and are right next to each other, so it seems 
> to neither be a network or proximity issue. Anyone have any suggestions? I 
> have turned Wi-Fi off and back on on both devices.I have also checked to make 
> sure that the setting for cellular is turned on on both the iPhone and the 
> iPad.thanks.
> Aleeha
> 
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Re: Phone calls not working on the iPad

[Aleeha Dudley]

Yes. I only have one iCloud account.

Sent from my iPad

> On Oct 28, 2014, at 3:09 PM, christopher hallsworth  
> wrote:
> 
> Are they signed into the same iCloud account?
>> On 28 Oct 2014, at 18:52, Aleeha Dudley  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all,
>> I recently updated my iPad mini first-generation to iOS 8.1. I have been 
>> trying to use it to make a phone call, but I have had no luck. Both devices 
>> are on the same Wi-Fi network and are right next to each other, so it seems 
>> to neither be a network or proximity issue. Anyone have any suggestions? I 
>> have turned Wi-Fi off and back on on both devices.I have also checked to 
>> make sure that the setting for cellular is turned on on both the iPhone and 
>> the iPad.thanks.
>> Aleeha
>> 
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Re: using a focus braille display with the mac

[Eugenia Firth]

Hello Joe
Using a focus 14 with your Mac is not count time-consuming once you get it 
paired. That's where I had the problem. You can use cord S to go to the menu. 
That will get you to the quit option you were talking about, if you want to use 
it that way.

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> On Oct 28, 2014, at 11:41 AM, Joe Quinn  wrote:
> 
> didn't relize that using  the focus on  the mac was so time consuming 
> wow. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 28, 2014, at 10:34 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Joe,
>> 
>> You can only assign VoiceOver commands to a Braille display, or to any 
>> commander for that matter. Cmd-q is a standard Mac command and not a 
>> VoiceOver command. Using a Braille display to drive your Mac, you’ll need to 
>> go into the menus and click the appropriate command.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>>> On 28 Oct 2014, at 15:00, Joe Quinn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> is there a way to assign specific braille commands to keyboard commands? 
>>> for instance, dots 1-2-3-4-5+spacebar to  the command q keys on the 
>>> keyboard? thanks!
 On Oct 27, 2014, at 9:21 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
 
 Hi there
 First, try pairing it with your Mac and please let me know how you come 
 out. It was a problem under Mavericks, and I have a focus 14 paired with 
 my Mac.however, I had a terrible time getting it to work. I finally had to 
 go for a Genius Bar appointment to get it to work.
 
 Having said all that, once you do get it to work, there are commands which 
 are common to braille displays that have keyboard input. The tab command 
 that you mentioned,four instance, is done with the T and the space 
 together.
 A lot of the commands that you are using on the iPhone will also work on 
 your Mac. Not all of them exactly like it, but quite a few of them.
 
 Sincerely,
 GigiSent from my iPhone
 
> On Oct 27, 2014, at 8:24 PM, Joe Quinn  wrote:
> 
> I’ve got a focus 14 blue and want to know how to use it more effectively 
> with my  mid 2012 macbook pro running Yosemite. anyone whose using one,  
> how do you move around with the mac? Also, can you use it independent of 
> a keyboard, like can you do command tab and the like? Thanks for any help 
> you can give. It’s definitely more time consuming than the iPhone. , I 
> know this much.
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Re: problem keeping the preview pain off in mail.

[matthew dyer]

Hi,

The preview pain is where the selected message is shown in a side pain in I 
think the right side.  This is useful for sited people, but if you are blind 
you will nottes that when passing by a message, it is marked as read and this 
is quite annoying if you are like me and you do not use it.

Matthew


> On Oct 27, 2014, at 7:54 PM, Regina Alvarado  
> wrote:
> 
> A completely stupid question. However, here goes. What is the preview pane? 
> Is it the list of messages? If so, I am running Mavericks on a Mini. What 
> would happen if I hid it? How do I do it from the keyboard? I faved an email 
> that says to swipe down on the pad. I do not have this device. Also, is 
> Yosemite worth taking my Mini an hour away to have an apple store put it on? 
> 
> reggie and Allegra
> 
> On Oct 27, 2014, at 6:18 PM, matthew dyer  > wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Last night, I was able to remove the preview in mail  by  switching to 
> classic view then moving over to the spliter between the message list and the 
> message pain after doing this I switched back to the standered view and I was 
> able to confirm that the message pain was disabled both before and after 
> restarting mail.  
> 
> Today I had to reducible it after turning on my mac this afternoon. Now for 
> the life of me it will not stick for some reason.  Is there anyone on this 
> list having the same problem and how did you salve this?  Thanks.  It is very 
> annoying.   BTW  I had this problem in mavrecs and I have updated to yosemity 
> and still have this problemm.  Apple if you are listening  please give us the 
> option of disabling the preview pain through either the menus or with a 
> keystroke.  
> 
> Thanks again.
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Re: Calling with the mac.

[Agent086b]

Hi,
I think you are lucky getting it to work sometimes. I am not able to get to 
work at all. I may try Apple Care when I have the time.
Max

> On 29 Oct 2014, at 2:14 am, Pete Nalda  wrote:
> 
> I've not had very good luck with this here either. Maybe it's my Wi-Fi, but 
> it only works maybe two or three times, rest the time it didn't work.
> 
> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
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>> On Oct 28, 2014, at 6:10 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> I must say that i am not very happy with this feature to be able to call on 
>> the mac.
>> It works sometimes and today when i tried it with my logitech headset i 
>> could hear my mom but she couldn't  hear me.
>> I checked the settings so that my headset was set right and it was.
>> Also voiceover got a very strange voice during the call.
>> So i guess this is a bit to new and hopefully it will be better in future 
>> versions of ios and osx.
>> The sms forwarding though works fine now.
>> /A
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Re: Can someone please post current directions for making the preview pane go away

[matthew dyer]

Hi here is what I do to get rid of it all though it does not seem to work for 
me.  

Go into mail preferences to switch to classic  layout  which is found in the 
view tab.  Check the box that says  use clasic lay out.  Next close the 
preferences in mail and navigate to the spliter  that is found just to the 
right side of the messages table.  Now vo-cmd-f5  to bring the mouse to the 
horizontal spliiter and with the track pad or mouse depend on what you have  
drag your finger down from the top and this should  get ride of it.  You now 
should be able to return to the standard view  and the pain should be gone.  As 
I said before, I am finding that I have to do this everytime I open mail.  If I 
am forgetting something, please let me know.  HTH.

Matthew


> On Oct 28, 2014, at 8:30 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
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> Hi all,
> 
> I think the directions I have for this are from the days of Snow Lion.  Can 
> someone post current directions?
> Thanks,
> Donna
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Re: Odd behaviour in notices.

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Hi. Do audio notices include notifications using the system voice? I ask this 
because it would be handy in situations when Voiceover is turned off.

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook

> On Oct 28, 2014, at 6:17 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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> Hi!
> If you open system settings and go to notices and interact with the table of 
> programs shown in notices you can there look for a checkbox to turn on audio 
> notices.
> /A
>> 28 okt 2014 kl. 02:15 skrev Shawn Krasniuk :
>> 
>> Hi. What are audio notices and how do you turn them on?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 27, 2014, at 5:47 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> When i change things in the noteces settings for example from banners to 
>>> none or turn of audio notices it changes back when restarting my mac.
>>> This happen to a friend of mine too so i am wondering if there are more 
>>> experiencing this?
>>> Thanks.
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Re: Left option+Down Arrow to move to bottom of message list in Mail?

[Gerard Doody]

Hi all, I just tried both command option down arrow, and left and right option 
dow arrow, and the only one that worked on my Macbook Pro running most recent 
update is command option down arrow. thanks for the info. 
Jerry Doody 
Sent from my Mac
On Oct 27, 2014, at 8:38 pm, Alex Hall  wrote:

This is a Mac command, available on most any table. Try not interacting with 
the table, then pressing the keys. Also, it doesn't matter which option key is 
used.
> On Oct 27, 2014, at 8:04 PM, Al Puzzuoli  > wrote:
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> Hi,
> Am working with a client who was running OSX 10.6.8. Just upgraded her 
> machine to Yosemite. She says that in 10.6.8, in the mail program, she was 
> able to quickly move to the bottom of the message list by pressing left 
> option+down arrow., and that another AT instructor previously set that 
> shortcut up for her. The shortcut no longer works in Yosemite, and I'm not 
> even sure how it would have been configured in the first place. keyboard 
> commander is enabled, but is set to use right option. I'm not sure how I can 
> assign something to left-option+down arrow  without breaking VO key 
> functionality. Any thoughts?
> Thanks,
> 
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Re: using a focus braille display with the mac

[Scott Berry]

It shouldn’t be really.  One of the biggest struggles like stated before is 
getting it paired.  Some pair and others do not.
> On Oct 28, 2014, at 10:41 AM, Joe Quinn  wrote:
> 
> didn't relize that using  the focus on  the mac was so time consuming 
> wow. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 28, 2014, at 10:34 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Joe,
>> 
>> You can only assign VoiceOver commands to a Braille display, or to any 
>> commander for that matter. Cmd-q is a standard Mac command and not a 
>> VoiceOver command. Using a Braille display to drive your Mac, you’ll need to 
>> go into the menus and click the appropriate command.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>>> On 28 Oct 2014, at 15:00, Joe Quinn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> is there a way to assign specific braille commands to keyboard commands? 
>>> for instance, dots 1-2-3-4-5+spacebar to  the command q keys on the 
>>> keyboard? thanks!
 On Oct 27, 2014, at 9:21 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
 
 Hi there
 First, try pairing it with your Mac and please let me know how you come 
 out. It was a problem under Mavericks, and I have a focus 14 paired with 
 my Mac.however, I had a terrible time getting it to work. I finally had to 
 go for a Genius Bar appointment to get it to work.
 
 Having said all that, once you do get it to work, there are commands which 
 are common to braille displays that have keyboard input. The tab command 
 that you mentioned,four instance, is done with the T and the space 
 together.
 A lot of the commands that you are using on the iPhone will also work on 
 your Mac. Not all of them exactly like it, but quite a few of them.
 
 Sincerely,
 GigiSent from my iPhone
 
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> I’ve got a focus 14 blue and want to know how to use it more effectively 
> with my  mid 2012 macbook pro running Yosemite. anyone whose using one,  
> how do you move around with the mac? Also, can you use it independent of 
> a keyboard, like can you do command tab and the like? Thanks for any help 
> you can give. It’s definitely more time consuming than the iPhone. , I 
> know this much.
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Re: using a focus braille display with the mac

[Eugenia Firth]

Hi there 
Yes, and I have just had a struggle to get my Braille Edge 40 back onto my Mac. 
Since Yosemite, much to my disappointment, won't let me have more than one 
display, I have decided to take the Focus 14 off the Mac and put it on the 
iPhone instead. In my case, when I am doing proofreading, I need two devices. 
So, luckily for me, I can use hand off to put a Pages file on the iPhone with 
the Focus 14 so I can do my reports without getting out of my braille file. The 
Focus 14, in my opinion, works better on the iPhone although I did have it 
working. However, I had so much trouble putting Braille Edge back on the Mac 
that I think I will leave the Focus 14 off the computer for now. As I said, I 
had it working, but my Braille Edge works better on my Mac. 

Gigi 

 there 
> On Oct 28, 2014, at 4:54 PM, Scott Berry  wrote:
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> It shouldn’t be really.  One of the biggest struggles like stated before is 
> getting it paired.  Some pair and others do not.
>> On Oct 28, 2014, at 10:41 AM, Joe Quinn  wrote:
>> 
>> didn't relize that using  the focus on  the mac was so time consuming 
>> wow. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 28, 2014, at 10:34 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Joe,
>>> 
>>> You can only assign VoiceOver commands to a Braille display, or to any 
>>> commander for that matter. Cmd-q is a standard Mac command and not a 
>>> VoiceOver command. Using a Braille display to drive your Mac, you’ll need 
>>> to go into the menus and click the appropriate command.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
>>> 
 On 28 Oct 2014, at 15:00, Joe Quinn  wrote:
 
 
 
 
 is there a way to assign specific braille commands to keyboard commands? 
 for instance, dots 1-2-3-4-5+spacebar to  the command q keys on the 
 keyboard? thanks!
> On Oct 27, 2014, at 9:21 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
> 
> Hi there
> First, try pairing it with your Mac and please let me know how you come 
> out. It was a problem under Mavericks, and I have a focus 14 paired with 
> my Mac.however, I had a terrible time getting it to work. I finally had 
> to go for a Genius Bar appointment to get it to work.
> 
> Having said all that, once you do get it to work, there are commands 
> which are common to braille displays that have keyboard input. The tab 
> command that you mentioned,four instance, is done with the T and the 
> space together.
> A lot of the commands that you are using on the iPhone will also work on 
> your Mac. Not all of them exactly like it, but quite a few of them.
> 
> Sincerely,
> GigiSent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 27, 2014, at 8:24 PM, Joe Quinn  wrote:
>> 
>> I’ve got a focus 14 blue and want to know how to use it more effectively 
>> with my  mid 2012 macbook pro running Yosemite. anyone whose using one,  
>> how do you move around with the mac? Also, can you use it independent of 
>> a keyboard, like can you do command tab and the like? Thanks for any 
>> help you can give. It’s definitely more time consuming than the iPhone. 
>> , I know this much.
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Re: Calling with the mac.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Yes it works both with facetime and skype.
However i come to think of one thing.
I have a network with one normal wireless and one which uses the 5 Ghz network.
Can this be a problem if for example the mac is connected to the 5 Gzh and the 
iphone is connected to the primary one.
I didn’t think of that when i wrote my frustrated e-mail.
To be as clear as possible my dsl modem is connected to an airport extreme with 
an ethernet cable.
I then have two airport express units connected wirelessly to the airport 
extreme.
So this is my setup.
/A 
> 28 okt 2014 kl. 16:04 skrev Tim Kilburn :
> 
> Hi,
> 
> From my prospective, it works perfectly every time.  My Mac can be connected 
> either wirelessly or with an ethernet cable, as long as I’m on the same 
> physical network.  I can use built-in speakers and microphone or use my 
> iPhone headset.  In fact, while I was typing this message, a call came in, I 
> just pressed the return key and answered the call.  When it was done, I 
> FaceTime closed and I was able to continue typing this note.  I’m guessing 
> that your frustrations have to do with the use of the Logitech headset.  Did 
> your headset work for FaceTime calls prior to this feature?
> 
> Later…
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Oct 28, 2014, at 5:10 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> I must say that i am not very happy with this feature to be able to call on 
>> the mac.
>> It works sometimes and today when i tried it with my logitech headset i 
>> could hear my mom but she couldn't  hear me.
>> I checked the settings so that my headset was set right and it was.
>> Also voiceover got a very strange voice during the call.
>> So i guess this is a bit to new and hopefully it will be better in future 
>> versions of ios and osx.
>> The sms forwarding though works fine now.
>> /A
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OT: Need Assistance for Blind Youth with Finding Accessible Audio Software

[Christine Grassman]

Hello all. I am attempting to help a 19-year-old who has a rapidly degenerating 
eye disease who is interested in pursuing radio broadcasting as a career.  He 
is a Mac user. The school he would like to attend informed me that they use 
Adobe’s line of products, and they maintain that they cannot be made accessible.

Could anyone with knowledge of this please write to me off-list:

1. Is this true? And
2. If so, is there comparable software out there which will do virtually 
everything this young man is likely to need in his pursuits?

Thank you.
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Re: Phone calls not working on the iPad

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello Aleeha,

Have you set it up in settings FaceTime on the phone?



Gena

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Training and Coaching.
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> On 28 Oct 2014, at 18:52, Aleeha Dudley  wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> I recently updated my iPad mini first-generation to iOS 8.1. I have been 
> trying to use it to make a phone call, but I have had no luck. Both devices 
> are on the same Wi-Fi network and are right next to each other, so it seems 
> to neither be a network or proximity issue. Anyone have any suggestions? I 
> have turned Wi-Fi off and back on on both devices.I have also checked to make 
> sure that the setting for cellular is turned on on both the iPhone and the 
> iPad.thanks.
> Aleeha
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Re: Phone calls not working on the iPad

[Aleeha Dudley]

Yes, all settings are correct. 

Aleeha Dudley and seeing eye dog Dallas 
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> On Oct 28, 2014, at 6:24 PM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
> 
> Hello Aleeha,
> 
> Have you set it up in settings FaceTime on the phone?
> 
> 
> 
> Gena
> 
> Georgina Joyce
> Applied Psychologist
> Training and Coaching.
> Because individuals of groups matter!
> 
>> On 28 Oct 2014, at 18:52, Aleeha Dudley  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all,
>> I recently updated my iPad mini first-generation to iOS 8.1. I have been 
>> trying to use it to make a phone call, but I have had no luck. Both devices 
>> are on the same Wi-Fi network and are right next to each other, so it seems 
>> to neither be a network or proximity issue. Anyone have any suggestions? I 
>> have turned Wi-Fi off and back on on both devices.I have also checked to 
>> make sure that the setting for cellular is turned on on both the iPhone and 
>> the iPad.thanks.
>> Aleeha
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
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Re: Calling with the mac.

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

I’ve not tried it using that kind of set up.  I’ve got a similar setup at home 
though but have my Extreme using its Dual Bandwidth option instead of two 
separate 2.4 and 5 GHz networks.  It’s entirely possible that having them 
broadcast in that manner could cause the problem.  If your Airport Extreme is 
at least a 4th Generation one, it should handle the automatic Dual Bandwidth 
transmission.  When in this mode, your Extreme will broadcast both a 5 GHz and 
2.4 GHz signal simultaneously and maintain them as a single network, thus, 
ensuring there’s no communications blocked between your iPhone and your Mac.  
When the Extreme is in the Dual Bandwidth mode, both your iPhone and Mac will 
connect to the side of the network that they need seamlessly.  Hope this makes 
sense.

Later…

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On Oct 28, 2014, at 4:16 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Yes it works both with facetime and skype.
> However i come to think of one thing.
> I have a network with one normal wireless and one which uses the 5 Ghz 
> network.
> Can this be a problem if for example the mac is connected to the 5 Gzh and 
> the iphone is connected to the primary one.
> I didn’t think of that when i wrote my frustrated e-mail.
> To be as clear as possible my dsl modem is connected to an airport extreme 
> with an ethernet cable.
> I then have two airport express units connected wirelessly to the airport 
> extreme.
> So this is my setup.
> /A 
>> 28 okt 2014 kl. 16:04 skrev Tim Kilburn :
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> From my prospective, it works perfectly every time.  My Mac can be connected 
>> either wirelessly or with an ethernet cable, as long as I’m on the same 
>> physical network.  I can use built-in speakers and microphone or use my 
>> iPhone headset.  In fact, while I was typing this message, a call came in, I 
>> just pressed the return key and answered the call.  When it was done, I 
>> FaceTime closed and I was able to continue typing this note.  I’m guessing 
>> that your frustrations have to do with the use of the Logitech headset.  Did 
>> your headset work for FaceTime calls prior to this feature?
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On Oct 28, 2014, at 5:10 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> I must say that i am not very happy with this feature to be able to call on 
>>> the mac.
>>> It works sometimes and today when i tried it with my logitech headset i 
>>> could hear my mom but she couldn't  hear me.
>>> I checked the settings so that my headset was set right and it was.
>>> Also voiceover got a very strange voice during the call.
>>> So i guess this is a bit to new and hopefully it will be better in future 
>>> versions of ios and osx.
>>> The sms forwarding though works fine now.
>>> /A
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Re: fusion upgrade for yosemite

[Daniel Chavez]

Would anyone happen to have maybe in DropBox, the .app file of fusion 6? In 
particular, the latest Fusion 6?
I can’t seem to download it.

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Re: Phone calls not working on the iPad

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Try these in this order.  If the first doesn’t work, go on to the second, and 
so on.  At each step, confirm that you still have WiFi connections.

1.  Restart your iPad.
2.  Restart your iPhone.
3.  Turn the feature off then on again on your iPhone.
4.  Turn the feature off then on again on your iPad.
5. Turn Bluetooth on on both devices.  Supposedly not needed but I've read 
somewhere that it made a difference.

Now comes the more time consuming ideas.

6.  Backup your iPad then Restore it.  As long as you do your backup either to 
iCloud or your Mac, you should be able to restore it right back to the way it 
was before the Restore.  It sometimes cleans up any confusion that the device 
may have had.
7.  Do the same for your iPhone.

The Continuity feature is working perfectly for me between iPhone and Mac, but, 
I haven’t played with this feature yet on an iPad.  If my wife allows me to 
play with her iPhone and iPad, I may be able to test some of this.

Later…

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On Oct 28, 2014, at 4:49 PM, Aleeha Dudley  wrote:
> 
> Yes, all settings are correct. 
> 
> Aleeha Dudley and seeing eye dog Dallas 
> Vice President, Ohio Association of blind students
> blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com
> "The wind of Heaven is that which blows between a horse's ears." Arabian 
> proverb 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 28, 2014, at 6:24 PM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Aleeha,
>> 
>> Have you set it up in settings FaceTime on the phone?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Gena
>> 
>> Georgina Joyce
>> Applied Psychologist
>> Training and Coaching.
>> Because individuals of groups matter!
>> 
>>> On 28 Oct 2014, at 18:52, Aleeha Dudley  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello all,
>>> I recently updated my iPad mini first-generation to iOS 8.1. I have been 
>>> trying to use it to make a phone call, but I have had no luck. Both devices 
>>> are on the same Wi-Fi network and are right next to each other, so it seems 
>>> to neither be a network or proximity issue. Anyone have any suggestions? I 
>>> have turned Wi-Fi off and back on on both devices.I have also checked to 
>>> make sure that the setting for cellular is turned on on both the iPhone and 
>>> the iPad.thanks.
>>> Aleeha
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
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Re: OT: Need Assistance for Blind Youth with Finding Accessible Audio Software

[erik burggraaf]

HI, Adobe has it’s own accessibility department.  It’s not something I’ve dealt 
with personally, but I would track them down and start with them.

If you know the exact software and version numbers, you could download 
evaluation versions and test them with voiceover.

Protools is the gold standard for audio production on the mac.  I would guess 
that there is some video editing in this particular course as well which would 
justify using adobe products such as audition.

Best,

Erik Burggraaf



On Oct 28, 2014, at 6:18 PM, Christine Grassman  wrote:

> Hello all. I am attempting to help a 19-year-old who has a rapidly 
> degenerating eye disease who is interested in pursuing radio broadcasting as 
> a career.  He is a Mac user. The school he would like to attend informed me 
> that they use Adobe’s line of products, and they maintain that they cannot be 
> made accessible.
> 
> Could anyone with knowledge of this please write to me off-list:
> 
> 1. Is this true? And
> 2. If so, is there comparable software out there which will do virtually 
> everything this young man is likely to need in his pursuits?
> 
> Thank you.
> Christine
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Re: OT: Need Assistance for Blind Youth with Finding Accessible Audio Software

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

The Adobe suite of products tend to use numerous custom elements that are not 
visible to VO.  The basic framework is present, but, the ability to Interact 
and/or manipulate just about anything is limited or non-existent.  We have 
Adobe CS6 in a couple of our facilities and I have had no success playing 
around with them from an accessibility point of view.  Adobe is moving towards 
their Creative Cloud which is quite an interesting product.  We have not 
decided if we’re going to go that way yet but the possibilities are there for 
accessibility in this model, although, I don’t believe that much progress in 
accessibility has been realized yet.  In discussions with some Adobe 
representatives, accessibility does seem to be a priority, I’m just not sure 
that it is a priority across the board.  It will take some major re-working of 
most of their software.

Later…

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On Oct 28, 2014, at 7:02 PM, erik burggraaf  wrote:
> 
> HI, Adobe has it’s own accessibility department.  It’s not something I’ve 
> dealt with personally, but I would track them down and start with them.
> 
> If you know the exact software and version numbers, you could download 
> evaluation versions and test them with voiceover.
> 
> Protools is the gold standard for audio production on the mac.  I would guess 
> that there is some video editing in this particular course as well which 
> would justify using adobe products such as audition.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Erik Burggraaf
> 
> 
> 
> On Oct 28, 2014, at 6:18 PM, Christine Grassman  > wrote:
> 
>> Hello all. I am attempting to help a 19-year-old who has a rapidly 
>> degenerating eye disease who is interested in pursuing radio broadcasting as 
>> a career.  He is a Mac user. The school he would like to attend informed me 
>> that they use Adobe’s line of products, and they maintain that they cannot 
>> be made accessible.
>> 
>> Could anyone with knowledge of this please write to me off-list:
>> 
>> 1. Is this true? And
>> 2. If so, is there comparable software out there which will do virtually 
>> everything this young man is likely to need in his pursuits?
>> 
>> Thank you.
>> Christine
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Re: OT: Need Assistance for Blind Youth with Finding Accessible Audio Software

[David Chittenden]

In other words, Adobe is saying exactly the same as what their accessibility 
specialist told me back in 2003. This does not sound like much improvement in 
accessibility improvement to me. Sounds like the same old Adobe.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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> On 29 Oct 2014, at 16:48, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> The Adobe suite of products tend to use numerous custom elements that are not 
> visible to VO.  The basic framework is present, but, the ability to Interact 
> and/or manipulate just about anything is limited or non-existent.  We have 
> Adobe CS6 in a couple of our facilities and I have had no success playing 
> around with them from an accessibility point of view.  Adobe is moving 
> towards their Creative Cloud which is quite an interesting product.  We have 
> not decided if we’re going to go that way yet but the possibilities are there 
> for accessibility in this model, although, I don’t believe that much progress 
> in accessibility has been realized yet.  In discussions with some Adobe 
> representatives, accessibility does seem to be a priority, I’m just not sure 
> that it is a priority across the board.  It will take some major re-working 
> of most of their software.
> 
> Later…
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Oct 28, 2014, at 7:02 PM, erik burggraaf  wrote:
>> 
>> HI, Adobe has it’s own accessibility department.  It’s not something I’ve 
>> dealt with personally, but I would track them down and start with them.
>> 
>> If you know the exact software and version numbers, you could download 
>> evaluation versions and test them with voiceover.
>> 
>> Protools is the gold standard for audio production on the mac.  I would 
>> guess that there is some video editing in this particular course as well 
>> which would justify using adobe products such as audition.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Erik Burggraaf
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 28, 2014, at 6:18 PM, Christine Grassman  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello all. I am attempting to help a 19-year-old who has a rapidly 
>>> degenerating eye disease who is interested in pursuing radio broadcasting 
>>> as a career.  He is a Mac user. The school he would like to attend informed 
>>> me that they use Adobe’s line of products, and they maintain that they 
>>> cannot be made accessible.
>>> 
>>> Could anyone with knowledge of this please write to me off-list:
>>> 
>>> 1. Is this true? And
>>> 2. If so, is there comparable software out there which will do virtually 
>>> everything this young man is likely to need in his pursuits?
>>> 
>>> Thank you.
>>> Christine
>>> 
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['Maxwell Ivey' via MacVisionaries]

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is new to the iPad and apple and who is also losing more of her vision. i think 
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