Can't find my applications installed through appstore

[Andrew Lamanche]

Dear Listers,

I've installed Lightening browser on my computer running Lion via the
Appstore but I can't find it anywhere. At first, I thought I had
failed to install it but when I go to the Appstore, it says that the
application has been installed. It's not in the downloads folder, it's
not in the application folder, it's not on my dock. Where is it? Has
anyone else had this experience?

Thanks for your help.

Andrew

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Re: good (un)rar/(un)zip prog for os x lion

[Anouk Radix]

Hi, thanks i got them both. Betterzip is a bit expensive though imho.
Greetings, Anouk,
On Sep 19, 2011, at 10:55 PM, Paul Erkens wrote:

> Hi Anouk,
> You can have the unarchiver from app store to unzip unrar etc. But if you 
> also want to create your own archives, an option is to install better zip 
> from the app store. It does cost a little. But with better zip and with the 
> command line rar tools in place, you can easily create your own rar files if 
> you wish, and zip is natively built into better zip. I wish its interface 
> were simpler, but it is very accessible and doable. So, to unarchive, if all 
> you want is that, use unarchiver. To create your own, one option is better 
> zip. At least this thing is accessible that I found.
> Hth,
> Paul.
> On Sep 17, 2011, at 7:53 AM, Anouk Radix wrote:
> 
>> Hi, I used to use winrar on windows and would like to have a good program 
>> that hides in the context menu so that i can unrar and unzip or rar and zip 
>> files in finder to a folder.
>> Is there any good program like this, preferrably for multiple file formats.
>> Thanks in advance
>> Greetings, Anouk,
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Re: New release of pages soon???

[Anouk Radix]

Hi, i had the seem debate 2 weeks ago. I am hoping for a new release of pages 
soon because the current one is 2 years old already but in the end i bought it 
anyway because, personally, i like it better then textedit with large documents.
Greetings, Anouk,
On Sep 19, 2011, at 7:14 PM, Christina wrote:

> Hello Macvisionaries,
> 
> I am very behind on the latest apple news.  Are there any rumors of a new 
> release of Pages soon?  I am considering purchasing Pages from the mac app 
> store but I'd hate to do that and then apple releases a new version in a few 
> weeks.  I need to be able to open and read a few .doc documents.
> 
> Thanks so much,
> Christina
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Fwd: spottily accessibility on os x lion

[Anouk Radix]

Hi everyone, please everyone who would like to see spotify accessible on the 
mac email them so that they know there is idneed a market for doing so. As you 
can read in the below message they want to make it accessible at some point but 
maybe if we can make them see that there is a real interest in this it will 
happen sooner.
Greetings, Anouk,
Begin forwarded message:

> From: 'Spotify Support' 
> Subject: Re: spottily accessibility on os x lion
> Date: September 19, 2011 6:58:12 PM GMT+02:00
> To: radix.an...@gmail.com
> Reply-To: supp...@spotify.com
> 
> __
> Hey,
> 
> We will hopefully at some point in the future be able to improve the 
> accessibility of Spotify, but currently we can't say when or promise 
> anything. But we do know everybody loves music and one way of proving this is 
> to make Spotify more accessible.
> Kind regards, 
> 
> Richard 
> Spotify Customer Service 
> http://www.spotify.com/help
> --
> Please, rate my message here:
> http://www.nicereply.com/spotify/3967483/56224 
> 
> Original message
> Options: [Problem] [PremiumProblems] [] [MacOSX] [Premium] [nl] 
> Message:
> I am a Dutch blind spotify premium user and am pretty happy with spottify on 
> the iPhone. On windows it is reasonably accessible as well. I was rather 
> surprised when I got my new mac and found out that spottily is totally 
> unaccessible on mac os x with voiceover. I was so surprised because it works 
> so well on the iOS platform which is rather close to mac os x but does not 
> seem to work at all on os x itself. I was rather disappointed because i no 
> longer use windows and only use my mobile when i am not at home. I would 
> absolutely love for spottily to be accessible on os x and i know other people 
> that would love this as well. I will include a link to how to make 
> applications accessible on the mac provided by apple: 
> http://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#documentation/Accessibility/Conceptual/AccessibilityMacOSX/OSXAXIntro/OSXAXintro.html
>  I hope something can be done to make spottify more accessible on the mac. 
> Greetings, Anouk,
> For your reference this is Case #: 56224
> Support powered by Assistly
> [[6f10bae65f321ecc5b0d324ae0aa9b0fe2024b94-10579634]]

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Re: sorting the order of message in mail with the most reasont message at the top of the list?

[Paul Erkens]

Hi Trahery,
In Lion mail, if you go to its preferences with vo comma, you can find the view 
most recent message checkbox in the viewing tab. After going into mail 
preferences, go to the toolbar, interact, move to viewing and hit it with vo 
spacebar. There is the checkbox. 
Hth,
Paul.
On Sep 20, 2011, at 4:18 AM, trahern culver wrote:

> hey all what's the voice over mail short cut to put the most reasontly
> reseved message at the top of the message list i think i remember the
> process but i've foregotten the short cut.
> 
> your help with this question would be most welcom!
> 
> kind regards trahern.
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Re: Can't find my applications installed through appstore

[Ricardo Walker]

Thats pretty weird.  My purchases always show up in the applications folder.  
Try looking in launchpad.

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On Sep 20, 2011, at 4:17 AM, Andrew Lamanche wrote:

> Dear Listers,
> 
> I've installed Lightening browser on my computer running Lion via the
> Appstore but I can't find it anywhere. At first, I thought I had
> failed to install it but when I go to the Appstore, it says that the
> application has been installed. It's not in the downloads folder, it's
> not in the application folder, it's not on my dock. Where is it? Has
> anyone else had this experience?
> 
> Thanks for your help.
> 
> Andrew
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Re: help needed on organizing mail accounts

[Ricardo Walker]

They do.

I think your looking at the unified inbox.  try going to the inbox that 
displays messages from both accounts and press the right arrow to expand.  you 
should now be able to see an inbox for both accounts underneath the unified.

hth

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On Sep 19, 2011, at 7:57 PM, Denise Avant wrote:

> hi all,
> i have a second account which is a gmail account. it appears that my messages 
> go to the inbox of my primary account? what i would like to know is whether 
> the gmail messages should go in a separate mailbox? 
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how to save embedded attachments from emails.

[Gerry Cook]

Hi everyone. how do i save files that are attached to emails that are embedded 
in the email. sent  from my mac!

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Re: how to save embedded attachments from emails.

[Ricardo Walker]

In the file menu, go to save attachments.

hth
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> Hi everyone. how do i save files that are attached to emails that are 
> embedded in the email. sent  from my mac!
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Re: ACCESSIBLE WORLD TEK TALK PRESENTS PETER CANTISANI, IOS APPS, SEPT. 19, 2011

[Paul Erkens]

Hi Esther,
Wow. That was a very useful one. I'm always struggling with podcasts if they 
are not in iTunes and the advanced menu, option subscribe to podcast, I 
overlooked. I've done it now and it works beautifully. Thanks.
On Sep 20, 2011, at 1:56 AM, Esther wrote:

> Hi All,
> For those who want to subscribe to the Accessible World Tek Talk podcasts, 
> such as the upcoming one on iOS Apps that Colin (aka Red.Flacon)  just 
> forwarded,  either through iTunes or through iOS podcatching apps, here's the 
> feed URL:
> 
> • Accessible World Tek Talk:
> feed://www.accessibleworld.org/category/site-categories/tek-talk-archives/feed
> 
> As far as I know, they don't have an iTunes podcast location set up, but you 
> can automatically subscribe to it if you choose the "Subscribe to podcast" 
> option in the Advanced menu on the iTunes menu bar, and then either type or 
> paste in the above URL.  This also works for other podcatching apps.
> 
> HTH.  Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On Sep 19, 2011 "Red.Falcon"  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>>> From: News Wire 
>>> Date: 14 September 2011 15:12:47 GMT+01:00
>>> To: velocity.focu...@virginmedia.com
>>> Subject: ACCESSIBLE WORLD TEK TALK PRESENTS PETER CANTISANI, IOS APPS, 
>>> SEPT. 19, 2011
>>> 
>>> ACCESSIBLE WORLD TEK TALK PRESENTS PETER CANTISANI, IOS APPS, SEPT. 19, 2011
>>> 
>>> NEWSWIRE:
>>> 
>>> An introduction to iOS apps
>>> A Tek Talk presentation
>>> by Peter Cantisani
>>> the author of
>>> Twenty-six Useful Apps for Blind iPHONE Users
>>> 
>>> Are you interested in the iPhone, iPOD, or iPAD?  Are you wondering what 
>>> you can do with your shiny new iOS device?  Attend the Web presentation 
>>> titled An Introduction To iOS Apps.  Intended as an overview and not a 
>>> tutorial, the presentation assumes the listener has had some hands-on with 
>>> VoiceOver on whatever device he or she is using.
>>> 
>>> Learn how you can enhance and extend the capability of your iPHONE, iPOD, 
>>> and iPAD with countless applications that bring great new features to your 
>>> device without breaking the bank.  Of course, all the apps covered will be 
>>> accessible with VoiceOver.
>>> 
>>> Have you purchased Twenty-six Useful Apps For Blind iPHONE Users and have 
>>> questions about a particular app in the book?  Participate, ask questions, 
>>> add your own two cents, and generally have fun.
>>> 
>>> Presenter:Peter Cantisani 
>>> E-Mail: askpet...@comcast.net 
>>> 
>>> Date: Monday,Sept. 19 , 2011
>>> 
>>> Time: 5:00 PM PDT, 6:00 PM MDT, 7:00 PM CDT,  8:00 PM EDT  
>>>   and elsewhere in the world Tuesday 00:00 GMT
>>>  
>>> Approximately 15 minutes prior to the event start time; go to The Pat Price 
>>> Tek Talk Training Room at:
>>>  
>>> http://conference321.com/masteradmin/room.asp?id=rsc9613dc89eb2
>>>  
>>> Or, alternatively.
>>>  
>>> Select The Pat Price Tek Talk Training Room at: www.accessibleworld.org
>>> Enter your first and last names on the sign-in screen.
>>>  
>>> All Tek Talk training events are recorded so if you are unable to 
>>> participate live at the above times then you may download the presentation 
>>> or podcast from the Tek Talk archives on our website at 
>>> www.accessibleworld.org
>>>  
>>> If you are a first-time user of the Talking Communities online conferencing 
>>> software, there is a small, safe software program that you need to download 
>>> and then run. A link to the software is available on every entry screen to 
>>> the Accessible World online rooms.
>>>  
>>> All online interactive programs are free of charge, and open to anyone 
>>> worldwide having an Internet connection, a computer, speakers, and a sound 
>>> card. Those with microphones can interact audibly with the presenters and 
>>> others in the virtual audience or text chat with the attendees. To speak to 
>>> us, hold down the control key and talk; then let up to listen. 
>>>  
>>> Accessible World uses News Wires, like this one, to inform people of the 
>>> topic and times for the many Discussion Groups on Accessible World The 
>>> lists are announce only to keep the traffic to a minimum.
>>> 
>>> You can join the Accessible World Announce List, the Tek Talk Announce List 
>>> or the Sports Talk Announce List by completing the form at: 
>>> www.accessibleworld.org/mailinglists
>>>  
>>> Accessible World also provides a Tek Talk Discussion List. This list is 
>>> intended to give you an opportunity to ask computer related questions, 
>>> suggest topics to be used in the weekly Monday training programs, or just 
>>> to interact with others interested in using assistive devices to access 
>>> computers. You may sign up for this list by selecting the Tek Talk 
>>> Discussion link on the same page and completing the form.
>>>  
>>> Accessible World Contacts:
>>>  
>>> Robert Acosta, Chair
>>> Accessible World
>>> 818-998-0044
>>> Email: boaco...@pacbell.net
>>> Web: www.helpinghands4theblind.org
>>>  
>>> Marcia Moses, Events Coordinator
>>>

Re: sorting the order of message in mail with the most reasont message at the top of the list?

[trahern culver]

that won't work for me paul because i'm using snow leapard

kind regards trahern.

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Text Edit and Dropbox

[David Hole]

Hi folks.

I have a weird issue here.
I use both windows and macs, and have files in my Dropbox
When editing a text file in Text Edit on my Lion-machine, and saves it, the 
changes isn't reflected when I go to my windows machine and look at it.
Does anyone here have the same issue and have solved it?
Is there something with the auto-save thing in Lion, or what?
Kind regards David

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Re: sorting the order of message in mail with the most reasont message at the top of the list?

[Red.Falcon]

Hi Trahern!
Just when sitting on the date column just press vo+shift+\| this will sort 
either new to older or vice versor!
hth Colin

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> that won't work for me paul because i'm using snow leopard
> 
> kind regards trahern.
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Menu Navigation Issues - Help with checking a bug please

[Garth Humphreys]

Hi guys 

I am still having issues when navigating menus. I am referring to the menu you 
land on when you press VO+M.  I am guessing this is unusual. I have posted 
previously about this but just to reiterate the basic problem. WhenI use the 
arrow keys to navigate I find that the focus is lost and I am taken back to the 
Apple menu. For example I might press VO+M, then right arrow over to the File 
menu, then start arrowing down this menu. Whilst arrowing down or then 
attempting to arrow across into a sub menu the focus will be thrown back to the 
apple menu and I will have to start from there again. 
I had a one to one appointment in the apple store and advised of the issue. 
However of course it did not occur once during the appointment. It was only 
after that I realised that I had had zoom turned right down during the hour. I 
have since tested this and found that when zoom is turned up to the maximum 20 
times then issues ensue. i have zoom set to follow the cursor with it at the 
centre of the screen.  

One interesting thing about the issue is that if I don't use the arrow keys but 
instead use the track pad commander then menu navigation is not effected by the 
zoom level.  

Could someone else test this on their system to see if they can replicate it. 


Thanks for any help.

Garth 

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Re: Menu Navigation Issues - Help with checking a bug please

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

If using a macbook, could it be possible your hand is accidentally hitting the 
trackpad?

Ricardo Walker
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On Sep 20, 2011, at 6:11 AM, Garth Humphreys wrote:

> Hi guys   
> 
> I am still having issues when navigating menus. I am referring to the menu 
> you land on when you press VO+M.  I am guessing this is unusual. I have 
> posted previously about this but just to reiterate the basic problem. WhenI 
> use the arrow keys to navigate I find that the focus is lost and I am taken 
> back to the Apple menu. For example I might press VO+M, then right arrow over 
> to the File menu, then start arrowing down this menu. Whilst arrowing down or 
> then attempting to arrow across into a sub menu the focus will be thrown back 
> to the apple menu and I will have to start from there again. 
> I had a one to one appointment in the apple store and advised of the issue. 
> However of course it did not occur once during the appointment. It was only 
> after that I realised that I had had zoom turned right down during the hour. 
> I have since tested this and found that when zoom is turned up to the maximum 
> 20 times then issues ensue. i have zoom set to follow the cursor with it at 
> the centre of the screen.  
> 
> One interesting thing about the issue is that if I don't use the arrow keys 
> but instead use the track pad commander then menu navigation is not effected 
> by the zoom level.  
> 
> Could someone else test this on their system to see if they can replicate it. 
> 
> 
> Thanks for any help.
> 
> Garth 
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searching printer drivers canon ip4850

[Anouk Radix]

Hi everyone,
In the past i always had hp printers and i found it really easy to find their 
drivers either for mac or for windows. I now have a canon printer though with 
two drawers one to put in paper and one that spews paper out. I want the drawer 
on the back to be the paper inlet and the other one to be the outlet but under 
windows you could only edit those settings after installing the drivers.
I found it already really difficult to find windows drivers for this printer 
let alone ones for mac os x.
Would someone be willing to help me with this?
Thanks in advance
Greetings, Anouk,

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Re: how to save embedded attachments from emails.

[Gerry Cook]

thanks i'll work with that, I'm trying to learn it all at once your help is 
appreciated. 
On 20/09/2011, at 7:42 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> 
> In the file menu, go to save attachments.
> 
> hth
> Ricardo Walker
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> 
> On Sep 20, 2011, at 5:21 AM, Gerry Cook wrote:
> 
>> Hi everyone. how do i save files that are attached to emails that are 
>> embedded in the email. sent  from my mac!
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see more from, in lion mail

[Paul Erkens]

Dear listers,
In the old days, before July this year, lol, we used to see all of the incoming 
message text we received. Nowadays, this is no longer true. If you hear: see 
more from, and then a name, how can you unhide that part of the message text, 
that Lion mail so neatly hides to unclutter the view? See more from, appears to 
be a link, but I have not managed to click on it. Any ideas?
Paul.

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More about Window-Eyes and VMware Fusion 4

[Robert Carter]

Hi,

I just wanted to report that if you have a VM that was created with Fusion 
version 3 Window-Eyes will work with this VM using fusion 4 as long as you 
don't let fusion 4 upgrade the vm to fusion 4.

To be clear, I am not talking about the installation of fusion 4 vmware tools. 
This happens automatically. What I am talking about is the fact that when you 
try to start up a vm that was created with fusion 3, fusion 4 will ask to 
upgrade the vm. If you want Window-Eyes to continue working, do not upgrade the 
vm.

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Re: Menu Navigation Issues - Help with checking a bug please

[Garth Humphreys]

Hi Ricardo 

I am using a Mac Book Air but am positive that this is not the issue. I have 
made sure not to touch the track pad. I am able to make the behaviour occur by 
following the steps I outlined before. Whilst typing this message I have jumped 
up to the menu bar whilst zoom is at 20 times, the focus jumps back to the 
Apple menu consistently. Whilst still in the menu bar I can use the Option 
Command Minus key combo to reduce the zoom to 1 times and I am then able to 
navigate the menu structure normally. If I then use the Option Command Plus 
keystroke to again take the zoom level back up then issue comes back.  

Thanks 

Garth   
On 20/09/2011, at 9:04 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

Hi,

If using a macbook, could it be possible your hand is accidentally hitting the 
trackpad?

Ricardo Walker
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On Sep 20, 2011, at 6:11 AM, Garth Humphreys wrote:

> Hi guys   
> 
> I am still having issues when navigating menus. I am referring to the menu 
> you land on when you press VO+M.  I am guessing this is unusual. I have 
> posted previously about this but just to reiterate the basic problem. WhenI 
> use the arrow keys to navigate I find that the focus is lost and I am taken 
> back to the Apple menu. For example I might press VO+M, then right arrow over 
> to the File menu, then start arrowing down this menu. Whilst arrowing down or 
> then attempting to arrow across into a sub menu the focus will be thrown back 
> to the apple menu and I will have to start from there again. 
> I had a one to one appointment in the apple store and advised of the issue. 
> However of course it did not occur once during the appointment. It was only 
> after that I realised that I had had zoom turned right down during the hour. 
> I have since tested this and found that when zoom is turned up to the maximum 
> 20 times then issues ensue. i have zoom set to follow the cursor with it at 
> the centre of the screen.  
> 
> One interesting thing about the issue is that if I don't use the arrow keys 
> but instead use the track pad commander then menu navigation is not effected 
> by the zoom level.  
> 
> Could someone else test this on their system to see if they can replicate it. 
> 
> 
> Thanks for any help.
> 
> Garth 
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RE: More about Window-Eyes and VMware Fusion 4

[Bill Holton]

Thanks for this info.  Do you know what happens if you create a new VM?
Also, if you don't update the tools, is the upgrade of any use?



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Hi,

I just wanted to report that if you have a VM that was created with Fusion
version 3 Window-Eyes will work with this VM using fusion 4 as long as you
don't let fusion 4 upgrade the vm to fusion 4.

To be clear, I am not talking about the installation of fusion 4 vmware
tools. This happens automatically. What I am talking about is the fact that
when you try to start up a vm that was created with fusion 3, fusion 4 will
ask to upgrade the vm. If you want Window-Eyes to continue working, do not
upgrade the vm.

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Re: Scanning software like Kurzweil for the Mac?

[Rachel magario]

Thanks for the correction. I read wrong on my research fora better scaning 
software for my mac. I did not realized that the 3000 did not cover blindness 
too.
Thanks,
Rachel.

On Sep 19, 2011, at 5:44 PM, Mary Otten wrote:

> There is no Kurzweil1000 for the Mac. So far as I am aware, the kurzweil3000, 
> which is their program geared for people whose difficulty with hard copy 
> print doesn't involve blindness, is old and out of date. There are 
> applications for the Mac that will let you scan and read, such as abbyy's 
> fine reader express, vuescan etc. But none of them have anything like the 
> array of features or flexibility offered by the K1000, admittedly for a 
> higher price, of course. 
> 
> Mary
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Re: Scanning software like Kurzweil for the Mac?

[Rachel magario]

Thanks Mary,
Which one would you say is your most comprehensive softwares for scanning from 
those you have used?
Thanks,
Rachel

On Sep 19, 2011, at 9:14 PM, Mary Otten wrote:

> HI RACHEL,
> 
> I DO NOT HAVE MUCH OF A NEED TO SCAN THE MATH AND HIGHLY GRAPHICAL TEXTS YOU 
> WANT TO SCAN. I HAVE HAD SOME SUCCESS WITH COOKBOOKS, WHICH HAVE A LOT OF 
> NUMBERS AND FRACTIONS; SOME SCAN BETTER THAN OTHERS. BUT HAVING HAD ADVANCED 
> MATH DESCRIBED TO ME, I DOUBT THAT KURZWEIL OR ANY OTHER SCANNING APPLICATION 
> WOULD DO VERY WELL WITH IT. 
> 
> MARY
> 
> Mary Otten
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Re: Scanning software like Kurzweil for the Mac?

[Robert Carter]

Hi,

DocuScan Plus from Serotek is an excellent choice for scanning software. They 
have versions for both Mac and Windows.
http://www.serotek.com

Robert Carter
On Sep 20, 2011, at 9:21 AM, Rachel magario wrote:

> Thanks for the correction. I read wrong on my research fora better scaning 
> software for my mac. I did not realized that the 3000 did not cover blindness 
> too.
> Thanks,
> Rachel.
> 
> On Sep 19, 2011, at 5:44 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
> 
>> There is no Kurzweil1000 for the Mac. So far as I am aware, the 
>> kurzweil3000, which is their program geared for people whose difficulty with 
>> hard copy print doesn't involve blindness, is old and out of date. There are 
>> applications for the Mac that will let you scan and read, such as abbyy's 
>> fine reader express, vuescan etc. But none of them have anything like the 
>> array of features or flexibility offered by the K1000, admittedly for a 
>> higher price, of course. 
>> 
>> Mary
>> 
>> Mary Otten
>> motte...@gmail.com
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Re: More about Window-Eyes and VMware Fusion 4

[Robert Carter]

Hi,

I have not tried creating a new vm but suspect that Window-Eyes would be broken 
with a new vm under fusion 4.

You don't seem to have any choice about upgrading vmware tools. At least on my 
system, the tools get upgraded automatically as soon as you start a vm.

Robert Carter


On Sep 20, 2011, at 9:11 AM, Bill Holton wrote:

> Thanks for this info.  Do you know what happens if you create a new VM?
> Also, if you don't update the tools, is the upgrade of any use?
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> Hi,
> 
> I just wanted to report that if you have a VM that was created with Fusion
> version 3 Window-Eyes will work with this VM using fusion 4 as long as you
> don't let fusion 4 upgrade the vm to fusion 4.
> 
> To be clear, I am not talking about the installation of fusion 4 vmware
> tools. This happens automatically. What I am talking about is the fact that
> when you try to start up a vm that was created with fusion 3, fusion 4 will
> ask to upgrade the vm. If you want Window-Eyes to continue working, do not
> upgrade the vm.
> 
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Re: Scanning software like Kurzweil for the Mac?

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Rachel,

If you're going to be scanning in languages other than just English, then 
DocuScan is not for you.

Abbyy FineReader can handle up to three languages in the one document and does 
a good job.

I use VueScan to create the images as it does an excellent job, then I have it 
set to hand over to ABBYY FineReader to do the OCR.

I scan a whole book at a time using VueScan, then ABBYY FineReader does the OCR 
in one go.

You can't start reading the book until the OCR is finished.

The thing to remember about scanning and OCR, is that the output depends on the 
quality of the input. You have to make sure that the scans are as good as 
possible, which can be difficult when scanning a double-page of a book at a 
time. I place a print dictionary on top of the scanner lid to hold the book 
flat while scanning and get good results this way.

Cheers,

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Re: Scanning software like Kurzweil for the Mac?

[Rachel magario]

Thanks Anne,

You are right, I do need multiple languages, and I am guessing computer 
language is like another language on its own sometimes. :) 
I noticed the quality issue, so I was thinking to buy those scanners that have 
3 high speed cameras. Do you know if that works well by any chance?
Also, is there a type of scanner that works better with vuescan over another?
How do you do your books? Do you turn page by page, or you feed pages through? 
I was told that unbinding the books might help? 
Also, I was told that Abbyy FineReader shows the corrections with an image next 
to the text, so how do you chooce the corrected text? Is it accessible with vo?

Thanks so much!
Rachel

On Sep 20, 2011, at 11:36 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:

> Hello Rachel,
> 
> If you're going to be scanning in languages other than just English, then 
> DocuScan is not for you.
> 
> Abbyy FineReader can handle up to three languages in the one document and 
> does a good job.
> 
> I use VueScan to create the images as it does an excellent job, then I have 
> it set to hand over to ABBYY FineReader to do the OCR.
> 
> I scan a whole book at a time using VueScan, then ABBYY FineReader does the 
> OCR in one go.
> 
> You can't start reading the book until the OCR is finished.
> 
> The thing to remember about scanning and OCR, is that the output depends on 
> the quality of the input. You have to make sure that the scans are as good as 
> possible, which can be difficult when scanning a double-page of a book at a 
> time. I place a print dictionary on top of the scanner lid to hold the book 
> flat while scanning and get good results this way.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
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Re: searching printer drivers canon ip4850

[Chris Blouch]

This seems to be only sold outside the US as I couldn't find any drivers 
without landing on a Europe or UK site. Anyway, I eventually found this 
page with drivers:


http://software.canon-europe.com/products/0010893.asp

If you search for "OS X" that should jump you to the various OSX 
compatible bits of software they have.


CB

On 9/20/11 8:24 AM, Anouk Radix wrote:

Hi everyone,
In the past i always had hp printers and i found it really easy to find their 
drivers either for mac or for windows. I now have a canon printer though with 
two drawers one to put in paper and one that spews paper out. I want the drawer 
on the back to be the paper inlet and the other one to be the outlet but under 
windows you could only edit those settings after installing the drivers.
I found it already really difficult to find windows drivers for this printer 
let alone ones for mac os x.
Would someone be willing to help me with this?
Thanks in advance
Greetings, Anouk,



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drivers for scanner

[Anouk Radix]

Hey everyone, to my dismay, although hp promised 2 years ago to make lion 
drivers for scanners among them mine, now they still are not here. The driver 
that is available wont run on lion. I was wanting to try out finereader on the 
mac but apparently my scanner (hp scanjet 5590) has no drivers available from 
hp. Normally i would just try it but my scanners big feature is its adf sheet 
feeder, i dont think that this will just work.
What are your experiences with scanners/driverless/drivers?
Greetings, Anouk,

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syntax of datadetectors

[William Windels]

Hello all,
I was wondering if there is a syntax to note appointments so that ical can add 
it automatically and completely.

What I mean:
in a mail is written:

example of appointment on 22/09/2011/10:00-11:30(2h){global}

explonation:
this should make a appointment with name: "example of appointment"
 on 22/09/2011 from 10:00 until 11:30 with a alarm 2 hours before and this 
appointment should be stored in the calendar with name "global". 

I would be happy if someone knows about syntax , if it exists, to note a whole 
appointment in one line.

I am  looking forward to your answers.


best regards,
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Re: Scanning software like Kurzweil for the Mac?

[Søren Jensen]

I totally agree here. DocuScan Plus is only for people who needs to scan texts 
in english. Well, Serotek have told me that they might support other languages 
in the future which I really hope, but we'll see.
I'll check out Finereader and see how well it works. I'm tired of using Vue 
scan to run OCR on nonenglish texts. :)
Best regards:
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Den 20/09/2011 kl. 18.36 skrev Anne Robertson:

> Hello Rachel,
> 
> If you're going to be scanning in languages other than just English, then 
> DocuScan is not for you.
> 
> Abbyy FineReader can handle up to three languages in the one document and 
> does a good job.
> 
> I use VueScan to create the images as it does an excellent job, then I have 
> it set to hand over to ABBYY FineReader to do the OCR.
> 
> I scan a whole book at a time using VueScan, then ABBYY FineReader does the 
> OCR in one go.
> 
> You can't start reading the book until the OCR is finished.
> 
> The thing to remember about scanning and OCR, is that the output depends on 
> the quality of the input. You have to make sure that the scans are as good as 
> possible, which can be difficult when scanning a double-page of a book at a 
> time. I place a print dictionary on top of the scanner lid to hold the book 
> flat while scanning and get good results this way.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
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Re: Scanning software like Kurzweil for the Mac?

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Rachel,

On 20 Sep 2011, at 19:30, Rachel magario wrote:
> I noticed the quality issue, so I was thinking to buy those scanners that 
> have 3 high speed cameras. Do you know if that works well by any chance?
VueScan seems to work with any scanner that works with Image Capture, which 
means any scanner that works with the Mac.

> Also, is there a type of scanner that works better with vuescan over another?
I don't think so. VueScan is primarily for scanning and manipulating images by 
professionals, which is why it produces such beautiful scans.

> How do you do your books? Do you turn page by page, or you feed pages through?
I only have a simple flatbed scanner with no feed facility, so I scan books a 
double-page at a time. I set VueScan to multi page and just keep turning pages 
and scanning until the book is finished. Pretty tedious, but I can't afford 
anything fancy.

> I was told that unbinding the books might help?
Yes, especially if you have a scanner with automatic feed that scans both sides 
of the page. My sighted husband can't bear to see books destroyed, so I just 
break the spine viciously before scanning and he can live with that. Also, 
keeping the book together avoids the risk of dropping all the pages and getting 
them mixed up.

> Also, I was told that Abbyy FineReader shows the corrections with an image 
> next to the text, so how do you chooce the corrected text?
Apparently, it shows an image that you can manipulate to place the text in the 
right order, but this isn't accessible to VO. However, for books and magazine 
articles, I find it gets the text in the right order anyway. Tables are a 
different matter. It seems to put each column underneath the previous one. So, 
you get the contents of the leftmost column, underneath that, the contents of 
the column second from the left, and so on. That's when you choose the 
Spreadsheet option.

Cheers,

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Re: Scanning software like Kurzweil for the Mac?

[Anne Robertson]

hello Søren,

I agree that VueScan doesn't do very good OCR. I used it as a stopgap while 
ABBYY FineReader wasn't available for Lion.


These days, I use VueScan for scanning and ABBYY FineReader for OCR.

Let me know if you want the setup guide to get this to work seamlessly.

Cheers,

Anne


On 20 Sep 2011, at 20:48, Søren Jensen wrote:

> I totally agree here. DocuScan Plus is only for people who needs to scan 
> texts in english. Well, Serotek have told me that they might support other 
> languages in the future which I really hope, but we'll see.
> I'll check out Finereader and see how well it works. I'm tired of using Vue 
> scan to run OCR on nonenglish texts. :)
> Best regards:

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Re: drivers for scanner

[Chris Blouch]

Hmmm. The drivers page for Mac for that scanner lists a Scanjet patch to 
use osx 10.6 software and driver on osx 10.7


http://h2.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareIndex.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&prodNameId=377691&prodTypeId=15179&prodSeriesId=377689&swLang=8&taskId=135&swEnvOID=219

so I'm assuming that's what you need along with the original driver 
software.


CB

On 9/20/11 1:41 PM, Anouk Radix wrote:

Hey everyone, to my dismay, although hp promised 2 years ago to make lion 
drivers for scanners among them mine, now they still are not here. The driver 
that is available wont run on lion. I was wanting to try out finereader on the 
mac but apparently my scanner (hp scanjet 5590) has no drivers available from 
hp. Normally i would just try it but my scanners big feature is its adf sheet 
feeder, i dont think that this will just work.
What are your experiences with scanners/driverless/drivers?
Greetings, Anouk,



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Re: Question regarding home networking.

[Chris Blouch]

Likewise you can turn on SMB sharing on your Mac and then mount your mac 
hard drive on your PC. Just depends on which way you want to go. For me 
I use a Mac as a 'server' and mount it's drives on my PC. My PC, 
currently XP, isn't backed up or anything since I just use it to test 
stuff but the Mac is on Time Machine so anything I store there is 
relatively safe.


CB

On 9/19/11 4:54 PM, Paul Erkens wrote:

Hi Allison,
One way to share files between windows 7, is what I think you have, 
and a mac, can be done, but it is a 2-way configuration. I haven't 
played much with accessing mac files from a windows computer, because 
I always work on my mac since I have it. Because once you go mac, 
you'll never go back. But the other way around is simple, as long as 
you have some information collected beforehand. So I will describe how 
to connect to a windows machine from one of your macs. The other way 
back, how to connect from windows to a mac share, I don't have enough 
experience with.


Before I tell you how you do it, here's what you are striving for to 
begin with. On your windows pc, you have a share. This is something 
like the my documents folder, an entire drive, or anything present for 
that matter. On the mac side, you have your finder. Where you would go 
into my network places on windows to find other computers, the mac 
does it differently. On the desktop, and in some other places, once 
you get file sharing working, you will have a new icon. If you open 
it, you will be accessing your windows files. It is that simple, but 
if you've never done it before, a little more to know before you have 
it working.


To access your windows machine from a mac:
1. You need to know the network name of your windows pc that you want 
to access. If you already have a network set up, this will be 
familiar. If you don't know the windows computer network name of the 
pc you want to get into from your mac, you will need is ip address. If 
you don't know how to do one of these and you need it, let me know.
2. You need to have an account on the windows computer to log in to. 
Because windows 7 is already set up on your side, you will indeed have 
a user account, possibly with a password. When you work in windows 7, 
you are logged in under your own account, that is usually created when 
windows was set up.
You use the same name and password to log in to windows if you do it 
over a network This is the name and password you will have to have 
ready. If not, then you wil need to set up a password associated with 
your user account on the windows pc, because without a password, 
sharing will not work this way.
3. Now that you know the network name of the windows pc, and you have 
a username and password, it is time to Connect. To do this, from your 
mac, in the finder, hit command k. This is a keystroke belonging to 
the go menu. It lets you connect to a server. From a mac perspective, 
a file hoster like your windows pc is a file server. A dialog comes up.
4. In the text field that you land in, fill in the protocol and the 
address of the windows pc and hit connect. The protocol that you 
always want to use is smb, as in server message block. Don't worry 
about what it is. The first five characters of the text to type in 
here, is always: smb://. That is s, m, b, colon, slash, slash.
5. Now say, that the pc you want to log in to is called Allison. Then 
the full line you type in is:

smb://Allison
That is all without spaces. So first s m b colon slash slash, those 5 
characters, and then the pc name, Allison for this example.
6. You can now select, which shares from windows you want to see on 
your mac. In this dialog on your mac, you may see somelike my 
documents, drive d, etc.
Just select one or more from the list and confirm. I think there's 
just a normal ok button.
7. Your windows share will now be mounted in finder. You can find it 
on your desktop and you can open it with command down arrow, and close 
it with command w.


Note: in windows 7, you may have to do a little bit more to set up 
file sharing to be allowed than you would on an xp machine. From what 
I understand, you have multiple windows machines. If one of them is 
windows 7 and another is xp, and you can perfectly see your windows 7 
files from an xp machine, then you can be sure that file sharing for 
this win7 pc will also work from a mac.

Hth,
Paul.
On Sep 18, 2011, at 3:18 AM, Allison Mervis wrote:


Hi Scott.
Thanks so much for your response. All of the pc's and both macs are 
successfully connected to the network, either via WIFI or Ethernet. 
However, I want to be able to share files between all of the 
machines. On the pc's, I'm able to go into the network and sharing 
center, see all of the computers in the home group, and copy files 
and folders between them. Can this be done on the mac?  Thanks again.

Allison

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Re: Having a bit of folder confusion

[Chris Blouch]

As far as I know the users folder only exists in one place and they is 
usually on the drive with the OS you booted from. So it sounds like you 
have two copies but one of them is probably not being used.


CB

On 9/18/11 4:56 PM, Bill Holton wrote:


Hi.

I have two drives inside my Mini, which I have named Mac HD for the 
system volume and Mac Data for my datavolume.  The way the computer 
came, the home folder is located in the Mac Data drive volume, with 
the usual tree:  users, Bill, desktop, documents, downloads, music, 
etc.  But on the Mac HD system folder these folders also exist, users, 
bill, desktop, etc., and I don't think they are aliases because the 
data in my home folders is not also mirrored in these folders.


Are these system volume directories some sort of unused copies?  Thanks.

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Re: playing midi files

[Chris Blouch]

According to this thread QuickTime X can't play MIDI files but QT7 can 
and so folks are encouraged to get that and install it. Actually the 
poster said QTX prompted him to get QT7 when they tried to play some 
midi files.


https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3224133?start=0&tstart=0

CB

On 9/18/11 9:31 PM, John Sanfilippo wrote:

Hi Missy,

Actually, VLC is one of the first things I tried. Then QuickTime 7, Neither of 
these is playing anything. I don't think it's the software; my hunch it is 
something else, but what? For instance, Garage Band plays its files, the very 
few that I have.

Thanks for the response.

js




On Sep 18, 2011, at 6:42 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote:

Hi there! I'm sorry to hear you're having midi troubles, but on the other hand, 
I'm very happy that there's finally someone
other than me experiencing this problem. So far as I know, this is a lion bug. 
Please contact Apple and complain about it.
Midi playback actually works the same way it used to, but unfortunately, the 
quality is absolutely horrible now, so it would
almost be better if it didn't work at all. Until it gets fixed, your best bet 
might be to download something like vlc media
player and use it in conjunction with a sound font. To me, it doesn't sound 
nearly as good as midi playback under snow
leopard did, which is 1 of the many reasons I haven't fully switched over to 
Lion yet,  but it's a viable short-term solution
until apple gets around to fixing whatever they broke. Good luck, and I hope 
this helps.
Missy



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Re: Nervous syncing my iPad

[Chris Blouch]

If I recall correctly the Nano uses pre-recorded audio files for all 
text. Those pre-recorded spoken snippets are generated on your Mac using 
your default voiceover voice selection, compressed down to mp3 and then 
downloaded to your device. Depending on how many text bits are needed 
this could indeed take quite a while the first time. I'm assuming if you 
change your voice preference on the Mac it will re-render all the spoken 
text recordings and download it all again. That said, Doug is correct 
that the iPad, like the iPhone, has enough horsepower to do it's own 
real text to speech synthesis and has no need of pre-recorded text audio 
snippets.


CB

On 9/18/11 9:01 PM, Doug Lawlor wrote:
You should have no problem syncing the iPad. Voices will not change 
because the iPad uses the  actual VoiceOver screenreader, not recorded 
voice prompts like the previous generation of the iPod Nano.


Doug



Sent from my iPhone

On 2011-09-18, at 4:21 PM, "Traci" > wrote:



Hi all,
Ok, I am wimping out on syncing my iPad with the Mac for the first time.
Some of you might know, I have been switching from windows to Mac for 
the last few weeks.
I've synced my Nano a few times with mixed results.  Last night, I 
noticed there were a few non-speaking menus on the Nano.  After 
changing some settings, I resynced it.  This took a long time, over a 
half hour.  When it was done, Alex was the voice on the Nano.  Do you 
think I reformatted my Nano, without realizing it?  *smile*

This is where I'm getting chicken syncing my iPad.
My original plan was connect the Pad and make sure to transfer any 
purchases, then synce it.  Can you think of any further steps I 
should take?

Thanks all,
Traci
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a weird issue with Safari and Autio Highjack Pro

[Ray Foret Jr]

Okay, like this is really strange.

There are two web sites on which I cannot seem to record the streams using 
Audio Hijack Pro.  Those are:

www.ewtn.com
and click on the English page and from there, select the live radio broad band 
stream.  It  plays just fine but Audio Highjack pro will not record it.  It's a 
WMA stream so I figured for sure that I could highjack QT.  NO go.  QT won't do 
it either.

The other site is:

www.wrbh.org
and click the streaming link at the top left of the page.  That's also a 
Windows media stream; but, again, plays just fine but will not highjack either 
using Safari or QT.

Note, I am running the click to flash extention.  Disabling this seems not to 
make a difference.  

Any thoughts?


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

Skype name:
barefootedray

Facebook:
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Re: Strange issue with roland juno G and windows side

[Chris Blouch]

I have a Juno G but haven't tried to hook it to the Mac yet. So do you 
use a USB MIDI controller or can you hook it up directly via the USB port?


CB

On 9/18/11 8:44 PM, James Malone wrote:

I actually think its a driver issue. Roland did say that you couldn't
actually use it on a Mac running Windows, and that they won't support
it. That goes with any Roland driver.

On 9/19/11, Matt Dierckens  wrote:

Hi all,
I have a roland juno g keyboard which I can use perfectly fine on the mac
side using garage band. Seing as I can't figure out how to use the juno's
instruments with gb, I use qws on the widnows side with vm fusion. Problem
is, I can only use qws on the windows side with the juno g for about 20
minutes and then the thing just stops responding to key presses. But I can
use the on screen keyboard just fine. So I'm not sure what the heck to do
about this, as I can't seem to use the instruments with gb.
If anyone has this keyboard and has this issue or can hep me resolve this
please let me know.
Thanks

Matt
Sent from my macbook pro

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Re: SPSS for Mac?

[Chris Blouch]

You probably won't need a Mac-specific solution for this. You can 
probably google around for an excel example to import into numbers or 
the open office. Here is one for a two-level nested anova


http://udel.edu/~mcdonald/statnested.xls

Here is one for a chi-square

http://www.ling.upenn.edu/~clight/CHI-SQUARE.xls

CB

On 9/18/11 7:05 PM, Bejarano, Rafael P. wrote:

If that's the case, could you provide a short tutorial of some sort on how to 
calculate inferential stats, such as two-way ANOVAs and chi-square?  That would 
be very helpful to those of us who are not highly proficient with the advanced 
functions of spreadsheets.

Rafael

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of .dan. [ddun...@city-net.com]
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 11:20 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: SPSS for Mac?

Someone suggested:

"The best bet, I think, is to write software to calculate whatever stats
one
   needs (or to have someone else do so, if one does not know how to code)."

Me:

One need not code an app for this.  Any spreadsheet will do any stats one
could want.  In fact it is a great way to learn the guts of how the math is
done for a given stat test.  There are some stat tests already built in and
any other can be done using the math facility of a spreadsheet.

Good too is the built in graphing facility of a spreadsheet for any who
will
make use of the results in a visual fashion.


 XB
  IC|XC

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RE: playing midi files

[Missy Hoppe]

This is absolutely correct, but under lion, midi playback with qt7 is very, 
very messed up for some reason; it works like a
dream under Snow Leopard, though.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Chris Blouch
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 3:44 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: playing midi files

According to this thread QuickTime X can't play MIDI files but QT7 can and so 
folks are encouraged to get that and install
it. Actually the poster said QTX prompted him to get QT7 when they tried to 
play some midi files.

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3224133?start=0&tstart=0

CB

On 9/18/11 9:31 PM, John Sanfilippo wrote:
> Hi Missy,
>
> Actually, VLC is one of the first things I tried. Then QuickTime 7, Neither 
> of these is playing anything. I don't think
it's the software; my hunch it is something else, but what? For instance, 
Garage Band plays its files, the very few that I
have.
>
> Thanks for the response.
>
> js
>
>
>
>
> On Sep 18, 2011, at 6:42 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote:
>
> Hi there! I'm sorry to hear you're having midi troubles, but on the
> other hand, I'm very happy that there's finally someone other than me 
> experiencing this problem. So far as I know, this is
a lion bug. Please contact Apple and complain about it.
> Midi playback actually works the same way it used to, but
> unfortunately, the quality is absolutely horrible now, so it would
> almost be better if it didn't work at all. Until it gets fixed, your
> best bet might be to download something like vlc media player and use
> it in conjunction with a sound font. To me, it doesn't sound nearly as good 
> as midi playback under snow leopard did, which
is 1 of the many reasons I haven't fully switched over to Lion yet,  but it's a 
viable short-term solution until apple gets
around to fixing whatever they broke. Good luck, and I hope this helps.
> Missy
>

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Re: Scanning software like Kurzweil for the Mac?

[Robert Carter]

Hi,

If scanning in other languages is really a show stopper then I guess DocuScan 
Plus is not for you. I am convinced, however, that it is the best solution for 
english at the present time on the Mac. I encourage you to take advantage of 
their free trial and see what you think.

I use DocuScan Plus with the HoverCam which is a portable camera that works 
really well.

Robert Carter


On Sep 20, 2011, at 12:30 PM, Rachel magario wrote:

> Thanks Anne,
> 
> You are right, I do need multiple languages, and I am guessing computer 
> language is like another language on its own sometimes. :) 
> I noticed the quality issue, so I was thinking to buy those scanners that 
> have 3 high speed cameras. Do you know if that works well by any chance?
> Also, is there a type of scanner that works better with vuescan over another?
> How do you do your books? Do you turn page by page, or you feed pages 
> through? I was told that unbinding the books might help? 
> Also, I was told that Abbyy FineReader shows the corrections with an image 
> next to the text, so how do you chooce the corrected text? Is it accessible 
> with vo?
> 
> Thanks so much!
> Rachel
> 
> On Sep 20, 2011, at 11:36 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:
> 
>> Hello Rachel,
>> 
>> If you're going to be scanning in languages other than just English, then 
>> DocuScan is not for you.
>> 
>> Abbyy FineReader can handle up to three languages in the one document and 
>> does a good job.
>> 
>> I use VueScan to create the images as it does an excellent job, then I have 
>> it set to hand over to ABBYY FineReader to do the OCR.
>> 
>> I scan a whole book at a time using VueScan, then ABBYY FineReader does the 
>> OCR in one go.
>> 
>> You can't start reading the book until the OCR is finished.
>> 
>> The thing to remember about scanning and OCR, is that the output depends on 
>> the quality of the input. You have to make sure that the scans are as good 
>> as possible, which can be difficult when scanning a double-page of a book at 
>> a time. I place a print dictionary on top of the scanner lid to hold the 
>> book flat while scanning and get good results this way.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
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Re: SPSS for Mac?

[Bejarano, Rafael P.]

Very cool!  Thanks.

Rafael
On Sep 20, 2011, at 2:56 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:

> You probably won't need a Mac-specific solution for this. You can 
> probably google around for an excel example to import into numbers or 
> the open office. Here is one for a two-level nested anova
> 
> http://udel.edu/~mcdonald/statnested.xls
> 
> Here is one for a chi-square
> 
> http://www.ling.upenn.edu/~clight/CHI-SQUARE.xls
> 
> CB
> 
> On 9/18/11 7:05 PM, Bejarano, Rafael P. wrote:
>> If that's the case, could you provide a short tutorial of some sort on how 
>> to calculate inferential stats, such as two-way ANOVAs and chi-square?  That 
>> would be very helpful to those of us who are not highly proficient with the 
>> advanced functions of spreadsheets.
>> 
>> Rafael
>> 
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of .dan. [ddun...@city-net.com]
>> Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 11:20 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: SPSS for Mac?
>> 
>> Someone suggested:
>> 
>> "The best bet, I think, is to write software to calculate whatever stats
>> one
>>   needs (or to have someone else do so, if one does not know how to code)."
>> 
>> Me:
>> 
>> One need not code an app for this.  Any spreadsheet will do any stats one
>> could want.  In fact it is a great way to learn the guts of how the math is
>> done for a given stat test.  There are some stat tests already built in and
>> any other can be done using the math facility of a spreadsheet.
>> 
>> Good too is the built in graphing facility of a spreadsheet for any who
>> will
>> make use of the results in a visual fashion.
>> 
>> 
>> XB
>>  IC|XC
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Re: Scanning software like Kurzweil for the Mac?

[Rachel magario]

Cool, I am really interested in the HoverCam, where did you get it and what 
brand is it? What would you recommend for this.
Thanks,
Rachel.
On Sep 20, 2011, at 3:07 PM, Robert Carter wrote:

> HoverCam

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Re: Scanning software like Kurzweil for the Mac?

[Søren Jensen]

Hi Anne and others.
I've just tried the latest demo of FineReader and I'm really surprised how well 
the OCR works. It works really very well when converting into html, and 
VOiceover reads all tables as shown on the paper. That's awesome!
I have some questions about the program:
1: Would it automatically rotate the image if the paper is placed wrong in the 
scanner?
2: Is it possible to add Vue scan or Finereader to the menubar in Textedit like 
Omnipage in Windows?
3: Why can't I access the preferences in FineReader? Because I'm running the 
demo?
It looks as FineReader is really worth the money, but it's a shame it won't 
work with my old Canoscan Lide. It's great that it ignores the watermarc from 
Vuescan though. :)
Best regards:
Søren Jensen
Mail & MSN:
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Website:
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Den 20/09/2011 kl. 20.57 skrev Anne Robertson:

> hello Søren,
> 
> I agree that VueScan doesn't do very good OCR. I used it as a stopgap while 
> ABBYY FineReader wasn't available for Lion.
> 
> 
> These days, I use VueScan for scanning and ABBYY FineReader for OCR.
> 
> Let me know if you want the setup guide to get this to work seamlessly.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> On 20 Sep 2011, at 20:48, Søren Jensen wrote:
> 
>> I totally agree here. DocuScan Plus is only for people who needs to scan 
>> texts in english. Well, Serotek have told me that they might support other 
>> languages in the future which I really hope, but we'll see.
>> I'll check out Finereader and see how well it works. I'm tired of using Vue 
>> scan to run OCR on nonenglish texts. :)
>> Best regards:
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Capchas and OCR?

[Teresa Cochran]

Hi, folk,

I haven't tried this yet, but I was wondering if anyone else has tried to use 
an OCR program to solve a capcha? Theoretically one could download the image 
into a folder, and, say, open it in FineReader Express. or one could take a 
screen-shot and open it in an OCR app.

Thoughts? Experiments? I will probably try this on my own in the 
not-too-distant future.

Thanks,
Teresa

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Re: Strange issue with roland juno G and windows side

[Matt Dierckens]

I'm glad that you've got a g as well. Its a great keyboard. You just hook it in 
using the USB port.
Matt
Sent from my macbook pro

On 2011-09-20, at 3:50 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:

> I have a Juno G but haven't tried to hook it to the Mac yet. So do you use a 
> USB MIDI controller or can you hook it up directly via the USB port?
> 
> CB
> 
> On 9/18/11 8:44 PM, James Malone wrote:
>> I actually think its a driver issue. Roland did say that you couldn't
>> actually use it on a Mac running Windows, and that they won't support
>> it. That goes with any Roland driver.
>> 
>> On 9/19/11, Matt Dierckens  wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> I have a roland juno g keyboard which I can use perfectly fine on the mac
>>> side using garage band. Seing as I can't figure out how to use the juno's
>>> instruments with gb, I use qws on the widnows side with vm fusion. Problem
>>> is, I can only use qws on the windows side with the juno g for about 20
>>> minutes and then the thing just stops responding to key presses. But I can
>>> use the on screen keyboard just fine. So I'm not sure what the heck to do
>>> about this, as I can't seem to use the instruments with gb.
>>> If anyone has this keyboard and has this issue or can hep me resolve this
>>> please let me know.
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> Matt
>>> Sent from my macbook pro
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Issues with a cannon scanner and windows xp

[Matt Dierckens]

Hi all,
I have a cannon lida 210 scanner.
When I first installed the drivers for it, it worked fine with Kurzweil on the 
windows side as I have no scanning software for the mac.
Next time I go poug in my scanner, vmware comes up with this can't connect to 
the host USB driver, windows will attempt to use a different host port or 
something like that.
I hit ok, and the scanner makes a noise, then either a dialog comes up or 
something but either way I can't use speech and have to restart the computer.
Anyone know why this might be?
Thanks

Matt
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Re: Capchas and OCR?

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Teresa,

Kapchas are made to be difficult, if not impossible to read using OCR. I use an 
Optacon to read them, and sometimes, they defeat me, even though I can read 
handwriting with my Optacon.

Cheers,

Anne

On 20 Sep 2011, at 22:25, Teresa Cochran wrote:

> Hi, folk,
> 
> I haven't tried this yet, but I was wondering if anyone else has tried to use 
> an OCR program to solve a capcha? Theoretically one could download the image 
> into a folder, and, say, open it in FineReader Express. or one could take a 
> screen-shot and open it in an OCR app.
> 
> Thoughts? Experiments? I will probably try this on my own in the 
> not-too-distant future.
> 
> Thanks,
> Teresa

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Addressbook fields

[Traci]

Hi all,

What is the iPhone field in addressbook?

I thought for a minute, if the contact had an iPhone, that is where I put their 
number, but that doesn't seem right.

*smile* thanks,
Traci

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Re: Addressbook fields

[John Lipsey]

That's precisely what it's for. Just use it instead of putting the
iPhone number in the mobile field. That's what I do, anyway.

On 9/20/11, Traci  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> What is the iPhone field in addressbook?
>
> I thought for a minute, if the contact had an iPhone, that is where I put
> their number, but that doesn't seem right.
>
> *smile* thanks,
> Traci
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Re: Scanning software like Kurzweil for the Mac?

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Søren,

ABBYY FineReader for the Mac is an Express version and has no preferences. 
However, I find it does a very good job for French and English, and it 
automatically rotates the image if necessary.

Which Canoscan Lide have you got? I can make FineReader work with my Canoscan 
Lide 110, but it's much messier and less effective than using VueScan to get 
the images. Also, I haven't found a way to scan more than one page at a time 
with FineReader, whereas VueScan can scan I don't know how many images into one 
file, which FineReader can then OCR in one go. I find this an efficient way of 
working.

As for adding either of them to the menu bar, this is a concept that is alien 
to me. I've never used Windows so don't understand the question.

Cheers,

Anne


On 20 Sep 2011, at 22:15, Søren Jensen wrote:

> Hi Anne and others.
> I've just tried the latest demo of FineReader and I'm really surprised how 
> well the OCR works. It works really very well when converting into html, and 
> VOiceover reads all tables as shown on the paper. That's awesome!
> I have some questions about the program:
> 1: Would it automatically rotate the image if the paper is placed wrong in 
> the scanner?
> 2: Is it possible to add Vue scan or Finereader to the menubar in Textedit 
> like Omnipage in Windows?
> 3: Why can't I access the preferences in FineReader? Because I'm running the 
> demo?
> It looks as FineReader is really worth the money, but it's a shame it won't 
> work with my old Canoscan Lide. It's great that it ignores the watermarc from 
> Vuescan though. :)
> Best regards:
> Søren Jensen

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Re: Capchas and OCR?

[Teresa Cochran]

Oh, of course. I hadn't thought of that. Thanks, Anne.

Teresa
On Sep 20, 2011, at 2:17 PM, Anne Robertson wrote:

> Hello Teresa,
> 
> Kapchas are made to be difficult, if not impossible to read using OCR. I use 
> an Optacon to read them, and sometimes, they defeat me, even though I can 
> read handwriting with my Optacon.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> On 20 Sep 2011, at 22:25, Teresa Cochran wrote:
> 
>> Hi, folk,
>> 
>> I haven't tried this yet, but I was wondering if anyone else has tried to 
>> use an OCR program to solve a capcha? Theoretically one could download the 
>> image into a folder, and, say, open it in FineReader Express. or one could 
>> take a screen-shot and open it in an OCR app.
>> 
>> Thoughts? Experiments? I will probably try this on my own in the 
>> not-too-distant future.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Teresa
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Re: Addressbook fields

[Traci]

Oh, ok.  Does it have any bennifit, or is it just saying that person has an 
iPhone?


Traci

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Subject: Re: Addressbook fields



That's precisely what it's for. Just use it instead of putting the
iPhone number in the mobile field. That's what I do, anyway.

On 9/20/11, Traci  wrote:

Hi all,

What is the iPhone field in addressbook?

I thought for a minute, if the contact had an iPhone, that is where I put
their number, but that doesn't seem right.

*smile* thanks,
Traci

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Re: Scanning software like Kurzweil for the Mac?

[Mary Otten]

Hi Rachel,

I've used k1000 for a very long time. My husband tried abbyy fine reader and 
vuescan once he got his macbook air recently and had tried those two before on 
an old mac at school. K1000 is clearly much more feature rich than any of the 
programs that have been discussed. Whether you need those features is something 
only you can decide for yourself.

Mary

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Re: scanning software for the mac

[Mary Otten]

No neither abbyy FR nor vuescan is free. FR is in the app store. Last I knew, 
vuescan is not. 

Mary

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Re: Scanning software like Kurzweil for the Mac?

[Rachel magario]

I would need to use windows for the k1000 though, right? If I want to keep on 
the mac side only, I would have to think about the other options, correct? I am 
slow sometimes.
RM

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> Hi Rachel,
> 
> I've used k1000 for a very long time. My husband tried abbyy fine reader and 
> vuescan once he got his macbook air recently and had tried those two before 
> on an old mac at school. K1000 is clearly much more feature rich than any of 
> the programs that have been discussed. Whether you need those features is 
> something only you can decide for yourself.
> 
> Mary
> 
> Mary Otten
> motte...@gmail.com
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Apple Mail Problem

[Melanie Clouser]

Got a strange problem here. Messages I had saved in my Inbox simply 
disappeared. Didn't find them in the Trash folder nor in any other of my 
folders. And, now, the senders of those invisible messages and mabe others, 
don't seem to be making into my Inbox in Apple Mail. Those messages do download 
onto my IPhone though. The IPhone receives messages that my Mac already 
downloaded and some that won't download to the Mac at all. This is while I have 
both mail programs open or not. This isn't a GMail account. It's my Verizon.net 
account and it's set to POP3 ... if I'm correct. Any suggestions or help for 
finding my disappearing email ... or just fixing the problem of why my email 
isn't downloading to the Mac? 

Melanie

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RE: Capchas and OCR?

[Andy Baracco]

I have seen this question asked on other lists, and the consensus seems to
be "no" because the image is deliberately distorted, just like the audio
CAPTCHA's are.  I know people who have no vision problem who say that they
have trouble reproducing them.
Andy
 


"I'm pretty good at drinkin beer."

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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Capchas and OCR?

Hi, folk,

I haven't tried this yet, but I was wondering if anyone else has tried to
use an OCR program to solve a capcha? Theoretically one could download the
image into a folder, and, say, open it in FineReader Express. or one could
take a screen-shot and open it in an OCR app.

Thoughts? Experiments? I will probably try this on my own in the
not-too-distant future.

Thanks,
Teresa

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converting braille to text and text & braille to audio

[Tammy Abreu-Butron]

Hello
I have a friend who wants to convert to mac and is 100% blind  (I have a
little residual so I don't know the answer as mac user.  She needs to
convert braille into text or docs and to create audio files.  Is there a
solution for her?  She has just about had it with jaws and needs  the V12 so
this might be a good time to switch to mac and use the money toward a
technology change into the mac world.
Thanks for your help and suggestions

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Mail basic questions for getting started

[Ioana Gandrabur]

Hi all,

I have started to use mail and have a few questions:
1. how do I go to first or last row in message table? I accidentally ended up 
on oldest message in inbox and could not find a way to go back to top unless 
pressing up errow for a very long time.
2. When writing messages is there a way to jump directly to message body or cc 
field etc. without tabing around?
3. In gmail if I select messages and press command delete do they get moved in 
trash folder of my imap account?
4. Can I set if only headers or entire message are being downloaded from server?

Sorry for bombarding you with questions.

Take care and thanks for your help

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Re: More about Window-Eyes and VMware Fusion 4

[David Tanner]

Then am I to assume that if you have never had Fusion on that machine you 
still couldn't run Window-Eyes 7.5 with Fusion 4.01?




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To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 9:11 AM
Subject: RE: More about Window-Eyes and VMware Fusion 4



Thanks for this info.  Do you know what happens if you create a new VM?
Also, if you don't update the tools, is the upgrade of any use?



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Subject: More about Window-Eyes and VMware Fusion 4

Hi,

I just wanted to report that if you have a VM that was created with Fusion
version 3 Window-Eyes will work with this VM using fusion 4 as long as you
don't let fusion 4 upgrade the vm to fusion 4.

To be clear, I am not talking about the installation of fusion 4 vmware
tools. This happens automatically. What I am talking about is the fact 
that
when you try to start up a vm that was created with fusion 3, fusion 4 
will

ask to upgrade the vm. If you want Window-Eyes to continue working, do not
upgrade the vm.

Robert Carter

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Re: Scanning software like Kurzweil for the Mac?

[Mary Otten]

Yes, k1000 is a Windows program. YOu could run Windows on your Mac if you felt 
that the feature set K1000 offers was what you need.

Mary

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Re: Scanning software like Kurzweil for the Mac?

[David Tanner]

I would totally agree with you.  I do realize that some people need to scan 
in other languages, but I get the strong impression that some on this list 
have discounted DocuScan Plus way too far.  If they would try it I think 
that they would find that it has a lot to offer, and is an excellent choice 
compaired to some of the off-the-shelf or website products that are more 
regularly recommended that have far less to offer the blind user.




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Subject: Re: Scanning software like Kurzweil for the Mac?


Hi,

If scanning in other languages is really a show stopper then I guess 
DocuScan Plus is not for you. I am convinced, however, that it is the best 
solution for english at the present time on the Mac. I encourage you to take 
advantage of their free trial and see what you think.


I use DocuScan Plus with the HoverCam which is a portable camera that works 
really well.


Robert Carter


On Sep 20, 2011, at 12:30 PM, Rachel magario wrote:


Thanks Anne,

You are right, I do need multiple languages, and I am guessing computer 
language is like another language on its own sometimes. :)
I noticed the quality issue, so I was thinking to buy those scanners that 
have 3 high speed cameras. Do you know if that works well by any chance?
Also, is there a type of scanner that works better with vuescan over 
another?
How do you do your books? Do you turn page by page, or you feed pages 
through? I was told that unbinding the books might help?
Also, I was told that Abbyy FineReader shows the corrections with an image 
next to the text, so how do you chooce the corrected text? Is it 
accessible with vo?


Thanks so much!
Rachel

On Sep 20, 2011, at 11:36 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:


Hello Rachel,

If you're going to be scanning in languages other than just English, then 
DocuScan is not for you.


Abbyy FineReader can handle up to three languages in the one document and 
does a good job.


I use VueScan to create the images as it does an excellent job, then I 
have it set to hand over to ABBYY FineReader to do the OCR.


I scan a whole book at a time using VueScan, then ABBYY FineReader does 
the OCR in one go.


You can't start reading the book until the OCR is finished.

The thing to remember about scanning and OCR, is that the output depends 
on the quality of the input. You have to make sure that the scans are as 
good as possible, which can be difficult when scanning a double-page of a 
book at a time. I place a print dictionary on top of the scanner lid to 
hold the book flat while scanning and get good results this way.


Cheers,

Anne


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Re: Scanning software like Kurzweil for the Mac?

[David Tanner]

Hovercam can be purchased from Serotek for $499 along with DocuScan Plus. 
Or, you can purchase the same camera from http://www.hovercam.com for around 
$320 in the U. S.




- Original Message - 
From: "Rachel magario" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 3:13 PM
Subject: Re: Scanning software like Kurzweil for the Mac?


Cool, I am really interested in the HoverCam, where did you get it and 
what brand is it? What would you recommend for this.

Thanks,
Rachel.
On Sep 20, 2011, at 3:07 PM, Robert Carter wrote:


HoverCam


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Re: Scanning software like Kurzweil for the Mac?

[David Tanner]

Will it work with the latest Canon Lide Scanners?

- Original Message - 
From: "Søren Jensen" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 3:15 PM
Subject: Re: Scanning software like Kurzweil for the Mac?


Hi Anne and others.
I've just tried the latest demo of FineReader and I'm really surprised how 
well the OCR works. It works really very well when converting into html, and 
VOiceover reads all tables as shown on the paper. That's awesome!

I have some questions about the program:
1: Would it automatically rotate the image if the paper is placed wrong in 
the scanner?
2: Is it possible to add Vue scan or Finereader to the menubar in Textedit 
like Omnipage in Windows?
3: Why can't I access the preferences in FineReader? Because I'm running the 
demo?
It looks as FineReader is really worth the money, but it's a shame it won't 
work with my old Canoscan Lide. It's great that it ignores the watermarc 
from Vuescan though. :)

Best regards:
Søren Jensen
Mail & MSN:
s...@coolfortheblind.dk
Website:
http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/

Den 20/09/2011 kl. 20.57 skrev Anne Robertson:


hello Søren,

I agree that VueScan doesn't do very good OCR. I used it as a stopgap 
while ABBYY FineReader wasn't available for Lion.



These days, I use VueScan for scanning and ABBYY FineReader for OCR.

Let me know if you want the setup guide to get this to work seamlessly.

Cheers,

Anne


On 20 Sep 2011, at 20:48, Søren Jensen wrote:

I totally agree here. DocuScan Plus is only for people who needs to scan 
texts in english. Well, Serotek have told me that they might support 
other languages in the future which I really hope, but we'll see.
I'll check out Finereader and see how well it works. I'm tired of using 
Vue scan to run OCR on nonenglish texts. :)

Best regards:


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Re: Your contacts

[Ricardo Walker]

Wow!

I guess I'm lucky.  lol.  I can't recall having any of the issues you've 
mentioned.

Ricardo Walker
rwalker...@gmail.com
Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
www.mobileaccess.org

On Sep 20, 2011, at 4:50 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:

> Personally I deplore ITunes.  I sweat with rage every time I open the thing 
> and find it's licence agreement staring me in the face and then there are the 
> monthly forgetting of my library and the fact that almost none of the 
> features actually work the way they are supposed to.  I don't let ITunes 
> anywhere near my music.  The idea of letting it have my work appointments and 
> contacts to jack around with gives me flight responses.
> 
> For any one who finds ITunes acceptable or even functional then syncing your 
> apple devices with it might be the way to go, especially if you are a mobile 
> me subscriber.  Not me though.  No thank you.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Erik Burggraaf
> This month in Ebony Promos: Two new gps systems for demo. Mac OS Lion When 
> will it be supported?  Ebony Consulting at accessibility Unconference 
> Toronto. To read more and subscribe, Visit:
> http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/mailman/listinfo/ebony-promos_erik-burggraaf.com
> Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
> or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
> 
> On 2011-09-20, at 3:38 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:
> 
>> Is there an advantage to going the google exchange route if you're staying 
>> within the Apple ecosphere? I'm on a Mac laptop with an Iphone4 and the 
>> address book synch just worked.
>> 
>> CB
>> 
>> On 9/19/11 7:55 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:
>>> It's not difficult, but it took me a little while because I had to look up 
>>> the procedure for each of my three devices.  I won't be able to do a 
>>> step-by-step until the end of the week if it's still wanted.  My work 
>>> schedule is really heavy until thursday.  Mark Taylor did a podcast on it 
>>> last year though.  It's what got me all excited about google exchange.  You 
>>> could start there and look up the instructions for your particular devices 
>>> if you don't want to wait for me.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Erik Burggraaf
>>> This month in Ebony Promos: Two new gps systems for demo. Mac OS Lion When 
>>> will it be supported?  Ebony Consulting at accessibility Unconference 
>>> Toronto. To read more and subscribe, Visit:
>>> http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/mailman/listinfo/ebony-promos_erik-burggraaf.com
>>> Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
>>> or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
>>> 
>>> On 2011-09-19, at 4:53 AM, Paul Erkens wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Eric Burgraaf,
 Very interested to learn about this as well. I would like to know what you 
 need to do in order to have your mac address book synch with google 
 contacts.
 Paul.
 On Sep 19, 2011, at 4:45 AM, Rachel magario wrote:
 
> Eric, how do you sink contacts? Thanks,
> Rachel.
> 
> My phone does and my touch, but my calendar does not. 
> On Sep 18, 2011, at 2:01 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:
> 
>> Yes, as long as both devices are pointed at your google exchange 
>> account.  You only need to do the setup once per device and then they 
>> simply update transparently as long as the given device has an internet 
>> connection.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Erik Burggraaf
>> This month in Ebony Promos: Two new gps systems for demo. Mac OS Lion 
>> When will it be supported?  Ebony Consulting at accessibility 
>> Unconference Toronto. To read more and subscribe, Visit:
>> http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/mailman/listinfo/ebony-promos_erik-burggraaf.com
>> Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
>> or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
>> 
>> On 2011-09-18, at 2:54 PM, Traci wrote:
>> 
>>> Ok, so syncing with google contacts, does it update devices over the 
>>> air?
>>>  
>>> If I add a contact on my Mac, will it automatically add that to my iPad?
>>>  
>>> Thanks,
>>> Traci
>>>  
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: erik burggraaf
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 11:52 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Your contacts
>>> 
>>> I compile everything in addressbook and sync it with google contacts so 
>>> that I have all of the information on my laptop, itouch, windows mobile 
>>> handheld, and online where I can add it to any new device I might 
>>> chance to acquire.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Erik Burggraaf
>>> This month in Ebony Promos: Two new gps systems for demo. Mac OS Lion 
>>> When will it be supported?  Ebony Consulting at accessibility 
>>> Unconference Toronto. To read more and subscribe, Visit:
>>> http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/mailman/listinfo/ebony-promos_erik-burggraaf.com
>>> Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
>>> or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
>>> 
>>> On 2011-0

Re: Your contacts

[Traci]

Well, thought I'd follow up on this.

I'm pretty pleased with myself, lol.  I turned bluetooth on my windows phone 
and on my macbook air, then beamed my contacts over to my Mac.  I had to do 
a bit of tidying up, but otherwise, worked like a charm!


Traci

- Original Message - 
From: "Ricardo Walker" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 9:16 PM
Subject: Re: Your contacts


Wow!

I guess I'm lucky.  lol.  I can't recall having any of the issues you've 
mentioned.


Ricardo Walker
rwalker...@gmail.com
Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
www.mobileaccess.org

On Sep 20, 2011, at 4:50 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:

Personally I deplore ITunes.  I sweat with rage every time I open the 
thing and find it's licence agreement staring me in the face and then 
there are the monthly forgetting of my library and the fact that almost 
none of the features actually work the way they are supposed to.  I don't 
let ITunes anywhere near my music.  The idea of letting it have my work 
appointments and contacts to jack around with gives me flight responses.


For any one who finds ITunes acceptable or even functional then syncing 
your apple devices with it might be the way to go, especially if you are a 
mobile me subscriber.  Not me though.  No thank you.


Best,

Erik Burggraaf
This month in Ebony Promos: Two new gps systems for demo. Mac OS Lion When 
will it be supported?  Ebony Consulting at accessibility Unconference 
Toronto. To read more and subscribe, Visit:

http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/mailman/listinfo/ebony-promos_erik-burggraaf.com
Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com

On 2011-09-20, at 3:38 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:

Is there an advantage to going the google exchange route if you're 
staying within the Apple ecosphere? I'm on a Mac laptop with an Iphone4 
and the address book synch just worked.


CB

On 9/19/11 7:55 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:
It's not difficult, but it took me a little while because I had to look 
up the procedure for each of my three devices.  I won't be able to do a 
step-by-step until the end of the week if it's still wanted.  My work 
schedule is really heavy until thursday.  Mark Taylor did a podcast on 
it last year though.  It's what got me all excited about google 
exchange.  You could start there and look up the instructions for your 
particular devices if you don't want to wait for me.


Best,

Erik Burggraaf
This month in Ebony Promos: Two new gps systems for demo. Mac OS Lion 
When will it be supported?  Ebony Consulting at accessibility 
Unconference Toronto. To read more and subscribe, Visit:

http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/mailman/listinfo/ebony-promos_erik-burggraaf.com
Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com

On 2011-09-19, at 4:53 AM, Paul Erkens wrote:


Hi Eric Burgraaf,
Very interested to learn about this as well. I would like to know what 
you need to do in order to have your mac address book synch with google 
contacts.

Paul.
On Sep 19, 2011, at 4:45 AM, Rachel magario wrote:


Eric, how do you sink contacts? Thanks,
Rachel.

My phone does and my touch, but my calendar does not.
On Sep 18, 2011, at 2:01 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:

Yes, as long as both devices are pointed at your google exchange 
account.  You only need to do the setup once per device and then they 
simply update transparently as long as the given device has an 
internet connection.


Best,

Erik Burggraaf
This month in Ebony Promos: Two new gps systems for demo. Mac OS Lion 
When will it be supported?  Ebony Consulting at accessibility 
Unconference Toronto. To read more and subscribe, Visit:

http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/mailman/listinfo/ebony-promos_erik-burggraaf.com
Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com

On 2011-09-18, at 2:54 PM, Traci wrote:

Ok, so syncing with google contacts, does it update devices over the 
air?


If I add a contact on my Mac, will it automatically add that to my 
iPad?


Thanks,
Traci

- Original Message -
From: erik burggraaf
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 11:52 AM
Subject: Re: Your contacts

I compile everything in addressbook and sync it with google contacts 
so that I have all of the information on my laptop, itouch, windows 
mobile handheld, and online where I can add it to any new device I 
might chance to acquire.


Best,

Erik Burggraaf
This month in Ebony Promos: Two new gps systems for demo. Mac OS 
Lion When will it be supported?  Ebony Consulting at accessibility 
Unconference Toronto. To read more and subscribe, Visit:

http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/mailman/listinfo/ebony-promos_erik-burggraaf.com
Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com

On 2011-09-18, at 2:43 PM, Traci wrote:

For those of you that are iPhone users as well as Mac users, do you 
keep all of your contact details in Mac's addressbook?  Including 
phone

Re: converting braille to text and text & braille to audio

[Ahmed Alomran]

Hi
Yes, it is possible to convert vraille files in to txt files which can be 
converted as mp3 files. I assume that your friend has  a braille note taker 
such as braille sense or braille note. he can mark all the braille files that 
he wants to convert them to text files and through itunes in mac he can save 
them as mp3 files.
kind regards.
ahmed
ministry of social affairs, Dubai, United Arab Emirates.


Sent from my iPad

On 21 Sep 2011, at 05:53, Tammy Abreu-Butron  wrote:

> Hello
> I have a friend who wants to convert to mac and is 100% blind  (I have a 
> little residual so I don't know the answer as mac user.  She needs to convert 
> braille into text or docs and to create audio files.  Is there a solution for 
> her?  She has just about had it with jaws and needs  the V12 so this might be 
> a good time to switch to mac and use the money toward a technology change 
> into the mac world. 
> Thanks for your help and suggestions
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Re: Apple Mail Problem

[Candie Stiles]

I recently had a very similar experience. When my messages disappeared from the 
inbox, I found them in the mobile me mail box instead. I interacted with the 
mailbox list and arrowed over to mobile me and there they were in that message 
list. Then when I went back to the plain inbox, the messages in the mobile me 
mailbox were no longer in the list. Before, all my messages went to the mobile 
me mailbox. Now all of a sudden they are going to the mailbox that's just 
labeled in box. I'm not sure why the change.
On Sep 20, 2011, at 6:35 PM, Melanie Clouser wrote:

> Got a strange problem here. Messages I had saved in my Inbox simply 
> disappeared. Didn't find them in the Trash folder nor in any other of my 
> folders. And, now, the senders of those invisible messages and mabe others, 
> don't seem to be making into my Inbox in Apple Mail. Those messages do 
> download onto my IPhone though. The IPhone receives messages that my Mac 
> already downloaded and some that won't download to the Mac at all. This is 
> while I have both mail programs open or not. This isn't a GMail account. It's 
> my Verizon.net account and it's set to POP3 ... if I'm correct. Any 
> suggestions or help for finding my disappearing email ... or just fixing the 
> problem of why my email isn't downloading to the Mac? 
> 
> Melanie
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Re: Scanning software like Kurzweil for the Mac?

[Søren Jensen]

It seems to work with the latest Canon scanners. Anne says it works with her 
Canoscan Lide 110.
Best regards:
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Den 21/09/2011 kl. 06.14 skrev David Tanner:

> Will it work with the latest Canon Lide Scanners?
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Søren Jensen" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 3:15 PM
> Subject: Re: Scanning software like Kurzweil for the Mac?
> 
> 
> Hi Anne and others.
> I've just tried the latest demo of FineReader and I'm really surprised how 
> well the OCR works. It works really very well when converting into html, and 
> VOiceover reads all tables as shown on the paper. That's awesome!
> I have some questions about the program:
> 1: Would it automatically rotate the image if the paper is placed wrong in 
> the scanner?
> 2: Is it possible to add Vue scan or Finereader to the menubar in Textedit 
> like Omnipage in Windows?
> 3: Why can't I access the preferences in FineReader? Because I'm running the 
> demo?
> It looks as FineReader is really worth the money, but it's a shame it won't 
> work with my old Canoscan Lide. It's great that it ignores the watermarc from 
> Vuescan though. :)
> Best regards:
> Søren Jensen
> Mail & MSN:
> s...@coolfortheblind.dk
> Website:
> http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
> 
> Den 20/09/2011 kl. 20.57 skrev Anne Robertson:
> 
>> hello Søren,
>> 
>> I agree that VueScan doesn't do very good OCR. I used it as a stopgap while 
>> ABBYY FineReader wasn't available for Lion.
>> 
>> 
>> These days, I use VueScan for scanning and ABBYY FineReader for OCR.
>> 
>> Let me know if you want the setup guide to get this to work seamlessly.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> On 20 Sep 2011, at 20:48, Søren Jensen wrote:
>> 
>>> I totally agree here. DocuScan Plus is only for people who needs to scan 
>>> texts in english. Well, Serotek have told me that they might support other 
>>> languages in the future which I really hope, but we'll see.
>>> I'll check out Finereader and see how well it works. I'm tired of using Vue 
>>> scan to run OCR on nonenglish texts. :)
>>> Best regards:
>> 
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Re: Scanning software like Kurzweil for the Mac?

[Søren Jensen]

Hi.

I love Docuscan plus for it's features which works very well. It's just a shame 
that you need the cloud based system to scan a page. Here in Europe we don't 
have access to an internet connection all the time if we are in a confrence 
where we get a peace of paper we beed to scan.
Regarding languages: I assume you only speak english . My standard language is 
danish which is very different from english. We have some special letters which 
an english OCR program simply won't recognize. If I scan a danish text, the 
text will be readable most of the time, but the english OCR don't know any word 
of the text, which means you'll simply get a bad result. It's like the same if 
you use a danish spellchecker on a english document.
The Braille translation software in Docuscan is also an awesome feature which 
might work well, but again, if you don't speak english everyday and primary 
read texts in english, that feature is simply unusable. In other words: I won't 
pay that much for an application which don't fit my needs.
having that said I'll say that I love the idea of DocuScan. The interface is 
very easy to use, you get lots of great features and I like the way it shows 
the result of the text. I said I don't liek the cloud based system. what I mean 
is that it should be an option and not something you have to use.
Best regards:
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Den 21/09/2011 kl. 06.11 skrev David Tanner:

> I would totally agree with you.  I do realize that some people need to scan 
> in other languages, but I get the strong impression that some on this list 
> have discounted DocuScan Plus way too far.  If they would try it I think that 
> they would find that it has a lot to offer, and is an excellent choice 
> compaired to some of the off-the-shelf or website products that are more 
> regularly recommended that have far less to offer the blind user.
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Robert Carter" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 3:07 PM
> Subject: Re: Scanning software like Kurzweil for the Mac?
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> If scanning in other languages is really a show stopper then I guess DocuScan 
> Plus is not for you. I am convinced, however, that it is the best solution 
> for english at the present time on the Mac. I encourage you to take advantage 
> of their free trial and see what you think.
> 
> I use DocuScan Plus with the HoverCam which is a portable camera that works 
> really well.
> 
> Robert Carter
> 
> 
> On Sep 20, 2011, at 12:30 PM, Rachel magario wrote:
> 
>> Thanks Anne,
>> 
>> You are right, I do need multiple languages, and I am guessing computer 
>> language is like another language on its own sometimes. :)
>> I noticed the quality issue, so I was thinking to buy those scanners that 
>> have 3 high speed cameras. Do you know if that works well by any chance?
>> Also, is there a type of scanner that works better with vuescan over another?
>> How do you do your books? Do you turn page by page, or you feed pages 
>> through? I was told that unbinding the books might help?
>> Also, I was told that Abbyy FineReader shows the corrections with an image 
>> next to the text, so how do you chooce the corrected text? Is it accessible 
>> with vo?
>> 
>> Thanks so much!
>> Rachel
>> 
>> On Sep 20, 2011, at 11:36 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Rachel,
>>> 
>>> If you're going to be scanning in languages other than just English, then 
>>> DocuScan is not for you.
>>> 
>>> Abbyy FineReader can handle up to three languages in the one document and 
>>> does a good job.
>>> 
>>> I use VueScan to create the images as it does an excellent job, then I have 
>>> it set to hand over to ABBYY FineReader to do the OCR.
>>> 
>>> I scan a whole book at a time using VueScan, then ABBYY FineReader does the 
>>> OCR in one go.
>>> 
>>> You can't start reading the book until the OCR is finished.
>>> 
>>> The thing to remember about scanning and OCR, is that the output depends on 
>>> the quality of the input. You have to make sure that the scans are as good 
>>> as possible, which can be difficult when scanning a double-page of a book 
>>> at a time. I place a print dictionary on top of the scanner lid to hold the 
>>> book flat while scanning and get good results this way.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
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Re: Scanning software like Kurzweil for the Mac?

[Søren Jensen]

Hi Anne.
Thanks much for your reply.
In Omnipage in Windows, you can configure it to pop up in the menubar in Word 
or any other texteditor. that means you just open up your texteditor, go into 
the menubar and choose scan. Omnipage will then open, scan the paper, put it in 
your texteditor and then finally closes again so the only opened window is 
still your texteditor. That feature is an awesome feature for people who aren't 
very good at computers.
Regarding the preferences in Finereader I just got confused because I saw the 
Preferences was dimmed.
Best regards:
Søren Jensen
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Den 20/09/2011 kl. 23.24 skrev Anne Robertson:

> Hello Søren,
> 
> ABBYY FineReader for the Mac is an Express version and has no preferences. 
> However, I find it does a very good job for French and English, and it 
> automatically rotates the image if necessary.
> 
> Which Canoscan Lide have you got? I can make FineReader work with my Canoscan 
> Lide 110, but it's much messier and less effective than using VueScan to get 
> the images. Also, I haven't found a way to scan more than one page at a time 
> with FineReader, whereas VueScan can scan I don't know how many images into 
> one file, which FineReader can then OCR in one go. I find this an efficient 
> way of working.
> 
> As for adding either of them to the menu bar, this is a concept that is alien 
> to me. I've never used Windows so don't understand the question.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> On 20 Sep 2011, at 22:15, Søren Jensen wrote:
> 
>> Hi Anne and others.
>> I've just tried the latest demo of FineReader and I'm really surprised how 
>> well the OCR works. It works really very well when converting into html, and 
>> VOiceover reads all tables as shown on the paper. That's awesome!
>> I have some questions about the program:
>> 1: Would it automatically rotate the image if the paper is placed wrong in 
>> the scanner?
>> 2: Is it possible to add Vue scan or Finereader to the menubar in Textedit 
>> like Omnipage in Windows?
>> 3: Why can't I access the preferences in FineReader? Because I'm running the 
>> demo?
>> It looks as FineReader is really worth the money, but it's a shame it won't 
>> work with my old Canoscan Lide. It's great that it ignores the watermarc 
>> from Vuescan though. :)
>> Best regards:
>> Søren Jensen
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Setting An Activity for Dashboard

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Hey everyone. Has anyone tried to set an activity for Dashboard? I'm trying to 
set it so that when I open Dashboard to read the weather, I would like Tom to 
read the weather for my city? Can this be done?

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Re: Menu Navigation Issues - Help with checking a bug please

[Garth Humphreys]

Hi 

I have had an opportunity to check the bug during my lunch break at our local 
Apple store. I could reproduce the issue on both mac books and an iMac. 

I was glad to see it wasn't just my machine but am annoyed that it does seem to 
be an actual bug.

I would still appreciate it if someone else could reproduce it.

Thanks
Garth   
On 20/09/2011, at 9:04 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

Hi,

If using a macbook, could it be possible your hand is accidentally hitting the 
trackpad?

Ricardo Walker
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On Sep 20, 2011, at 6:11 AM, Garth Humphreys wrote:

> Hi guys   
> 
> I am still having issues when navigating menus. I am referring to the menu 
> you land on when you press VO+M.  I am guessing this is unusual. I have 
> posted previously about this but just to reiterate the basic problem. WhenI 
> use the arrow keys to navigate I find that the focus is lost and I am taken 
> back to the Apple menu. For example I might press VO+M, then right arrow over 
> to the File menu, then start arrowing down this menu. Whilst arrowing down or 
> then attempting to arrow across into a sub menu the focus will be thrown back 
> to the apple menu and I will have to start from there again. 
> I had a one to one appointment in the apple store and advised of the issue. 
> However of course it did not occur once during the appointment. It was only 
> after that I realised that I had had zoom turned right down during the hour. 
> I have since tested this and found that when zoom is turned up to the maximum 
> 20 times then issues ensue. i have zoom set to follow the cursor with it at 
> the centre of the screen.  
> 
> One interesting thing about the issue is that if I don't use the arrow keys 
> but instead use the track pad commander then menu navigation is not effected 
> by the zoom level.  
> 
> Could someone else test this on their system to see if they can replicate it. 
> 
> 
> Thanks for any help.
> 
> Garth 
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