Re: Charging devices from Computer USB ports & Additional comments on iPhone and iPad charging [was Re: A USB device is drawing too much power]

[Nicolai Svendsen]

Hi,

Yeah, I'll definitely give that one I shot. I thought I recognized it from 
something you had to do on occasion with ThinkPad.

Again, thanks. I'll let you know.

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On May 7, 2010, at 2:33 AM, Esther wrote:

> Hi Nic,
> 
> I've never used resetting the PRAM to fix a USB port issue before on a Mac -- 
> only used it for audio sound repairs.  However, the part about removing a 
> battery and holding down the power button with the battery out (to discharge 
> the capacitor) is something I've had to do before with an IBM ThinkPad laptop 
> to reset electronic components.  So that may work in your case, too.
> 
> HTH
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Esther 
> 
> Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
> 
>> Hi Esther,
>> 
>> Thank you. I'll try this. Resetting the PRAM has been tried before, but I'm 
>> supposing holding down the power button when battery is removed is some sort 
>> of cycle? I'll add it to resetting the PRAM again and let you know how it 
>> works out.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Nic
>> Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com
>> Skype: Kvalme
>> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk
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>> My Twitter
>> 
>> On May 7, 2010, at 2:18 AM, Esther wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Nic,
>>> 
>>> I'll cc this to the viphone list, since the last part of this post is about 
>>> USB power usage and charging for the iPhone, iPod Touch and iPad. I'm not 
>>> sure I qualify with respect to knowing a lot about hardware, USB devices, 
>>> and electricity, but I'll try to answer your question, although I've never 
>>> had OS X shut a device down with a message that it was drawing too much 
>>> power.  However, I did just make a recent trip where I had to troubleshoot 
>>> one of the USB ports of a MacBook.  Devices that were plugged into that 
>>> port didn't work properly: printer cables wouldn't relay signals to  the 
>>> attached peripheral, iPods would not be recognized by iTunes, and a plugged 
>>> in mouse was evidently powered (lit up), but not enough to register clicks 
>>> on the machine.  All these devices worked correctly when plugged into the 
>>> other USB port.  Power cycling with restart and repairing permissions 
>>> didn't help.  (I only tried the permissions repair because the Software 
>>> Update had just been run to install a security update before the problem 
>>> behavior.)  What did work was resetting the PRAM, which apparently restored 
>>> the USB port to its full power. If the source of your problem is not the 
>>> aging of your headphones but the USB current support from your computer, 
>>> this fix might help. I'll give you the instructions I received from Apple's 
>>> Tech Support, since they're slightly different from what is in the 
>>> Knowledge Base article.
>>> 
>>> 1. Power down the computer and remove the battery from the MacBook. (On my 
>>> model you need to get a thick coin, like a U.S. nickel, to insert in the 
>>> slot of the lock for the battery, and give it a quarter turn clockwise to 
>>> rotate it into the unlock position so the side of the battery near the lock 
>>> will pop up, and so that the battery can be removed.)
>>> 2. With the battery removed, hold down the power button for at least 12 
>>> seconds.
>>> 3. Replace the battery.  (On my model, you insert the side near the left 
>>> edge of the laptop so that it engages, and then swing the other end so that 
>>> it slots into the lock position.  Then you use the coin to turn the slotted 
>>> lock a quarter turn counter-clockwise to lock again.)
>>> 4. Hold down the Command, Option, P, and R keys while you power on your 
>>> laptop.  I press down the Command, Option, and R keys with my left hand 
>>> (little finger on the Option key, ring finger on the Command key, and 
>>> either middle or index finger on the R key).  I press the thumb of my right 
>>> hand on the P key and push  down on the power button with the middle finger 
>>> of my right hand. 
>>> 5. You need to keep the Command, Option, P, and R keys pressed for at least 
>>> 3 start-up chimes before releasing them in order to reset the PRAM.
>>> 6. Log in as usual and check your USB port connections.
>>> 
>>> This fixed all the problems with the USB ports.  I think, because the mouse 
>>> was being powered, but not enough to register clicks with the system, that 
>>> full power wasn't going to one of the USB ports.
>>> 
>>> I'll point you to the Apple Knowledge Base article on "Apple Computers: 
>>> Powering a peripheral through USB":
>>> http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4049
>>> 
>>> Computer USB 2 ports are supposed to be rated for 500 mAH.  That's less 
>>> than the 1000 mAH you'll get from an AC outlet (in the U.S.) with a USB 
>>> charger for the iPhone or iPod Touch, which is why charging your device on 
>>> the computer's USB port is slower, and which is also why the earlier iPods 
>>> and iPh

braille font fore mac?

[hank smith]

hello is there a braille font fore the mac?
if so how do I switch to it?
Hank

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Re: braille font fore mac?

[Rob]

Search for a font called Swell-Braille. It is usable in TextEdit.

Sent from my iPod

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foreign languages in macspeech dictate

[william lomas]

hi all


how do i switch my interface of macspeech dictate international please, to 
french so that i can issue french commands to it?
i only see an english set of commanding prompts


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Re: Charging devices from Computer USB ports & Additional comments on iPhone and iPad charging [was Re: A USB device is drawing too much power]

[Nicolai Svendsen]

Hi,

Hmm. It won't let me reset the PRAM. Back to the chalkboard. In fact, nothing 
happens. Every time I reset the PRAM, I have always been holding them down 
before powering on, and it has always worked. I've tried it ten times now.

#Fail#

I suppose that is out of the question right now doing that.

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On May 7, 2010, at 9:23 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Yeah, I'll definitely give that one I shot. I thought I recognized it from 
> something you had to do on occasion with ThinkPad.
> 
> Again, thanks. I'll let you know.
> 
> Regards,
> Nic
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> Skype: Kvalme
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> My Twitter
> 
> On May 7, 2010, at 2:33 AM, Esther wrote:
> 
>> Hi Nic,
>> 
>> I've never used resetting the PRAM to fix a USB port issue before on a Mac 
>> -- only used it for audio sound repairs.  However, the part about removing a 
>> battery and holding down the power button with the battery out (to discharge 
>> the capacitor) is something I've had to do before with an IBM ThinkPad 
>> laptop to reset electronic components.  So that may work in your case, too.
>> 
>> HTH
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Esther 
>> 
>> Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Esther,
>>> 
>>> Thank you. I'll try this. Resetting the PRAM has been tried before, but I'm 
>>> supposing holding down the power button when battery is removed is some 
>>> sort of cycle? I'll add it to resetting the PRAM again and let you know how 
>>> it works out.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Nic
>>> Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com
>>> Skype: Kvalme
>>> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk
>>> AIM: cincinster
>>> yahoo Messenger: cin368
>>> Facebook Profile
>>> My Twitter
>>> 
>>> On May 7, 2010, at 2:18 AM, Esther wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Nic,
 
 I'll cc this to the viphone list, since the last part of this post is 
 about USB power usage and charging for the iPhone, iPod Touch and iPad. 
 I'm not sure I qualify with respect to knowing a lot about hardware, USB 
 devices, and electricity, but I'll try to answer your question, although 
 I've never had OS X shut a device down with a message that it was drawing 
 too much power.  However, I did just make a recent trip where I had to 
 troubleshoot one of the USB ports of a MacBook.  Devices that were plugged 
 into that port didn't work properly: printer cables wouldn't relay signals 
 to  the attached peripheral, iPods would not be recognized by iTunes, and 
 a plugged in mouse was evidently powered (lit up), but not enough to 
 register clicks on the machine.  All these devices worked correctly when 
 plugged into the other USB port.  Power cycling with restart and repairing 
 permissions didn't help.  (I only tried the permissions repair because the 
 Software Update had just been run to install a security update before the 
 problem behavior.)  What did work was resetting the PRAM, which apparently 
 restored the USB port to its full power. If the source of your problem is 
 not the aging of your headphones but the USB current support from your 
 computer, this fix might help. I'll give you the instructions I received 
 from Apple's Tech Support, since they're slightly different from what is 
 in the Knowledge Base article.
 
 1. Power down the computer and remove the battery from the MacBook. (On my 
 model you need to get a thick coin, like a U.S. nickel, to insert in the 
 slot of the lock for the battery, and give it a quarter turn clockwise to 
 rotate it into the unlock position so the side of the battery near the 
 lock will pop up, and so that the battery can be removed.)
 2. With the battery removed, hold down the power button for at least 12 
 seconds.
 3. Replace the battery.  (On my model, you insert the side near the left 
 edge of the laptop so that it engages, and then swing the other end so 
 that it slots into the lock position.  Then you use the coin to turn the 
 slotted lock a quarter turn counter-clockwise to lock again.)
 4. Hold down the Command, Option, P, and R keys while you power on your 
 laptop.  I press down the Command, Option, and R keys with my left hand 
 (little finger on the Option key, ring finger on the Command key, and 
 either middle or index finger on the R key).  I press the thumb of my 
 right hand on the P key and push  down on the power button with the middle 
 finger of my right hand. 
 5. You need to keep the Command, Option, P, and R keys pressed for at 
 least 3 start-up chimes before releasing them in order to reset the PRAM.
 6. Log in as usual and check your USB port connections.
 
 This fixed all the problems with the USB ports.  I think, becaus

Re: Accessible iPhone/iPad apps and refunds

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

That is why I suggested a rating system with categories.  For example, labeled 
buttons would be one of the criteria for the rating system.  Let the users 
define accessibility by essentially voting on a few general components that 
make up over all accessibility for an iPhone app. 
On May 6, 2010, at 11:06 PM, John J Herzog wrote:

> I see a problem with this philosophy. Different people view accessibility in 
> different ways. For instance, some people would not consider the workout 
> application posted to this list accessible because of a few unlabeled 
> buttons. Others would be fine with it. Similarly, I have a few games on the 
> IPod, where the introductory screens work with voiceover, and then you turn 
> it off to play the actual game. Action bowling comes to mind. 
> What is apple to do? How should they define accessibility? Do they give all 
> who complain refunds, even though some complaints are more genuine and 
> reasonable than others? Do they say that, if a certain number of buttons 
> aren't labeled, the app is inaccessible? Do they say that, if you cannot play 
> a game with voiceover on, then all blind people should get their money back? 
> I know that it sucks to pay for apps which are unusable by and large. But 
> this accessibility criteria for refunds on apps is going to cause a lot of 
> problems. And, more importantly, I worry that if we have people constantly 
> holding apple to different standards of "accessibility", it might sideline 
> any further efforts they put into improving the platform for blind users. 
> Let's not shoot ourselves in the foot here. 
> 
> John 
> 
> On May 6, 2010, at 6:39 PM, Bryan Smart wrote:
> 
>> Absolutely.
>> 
>> Anyone on the list with an iPhone, iPad, or iPod Touch, please write to 
>> complain. It isn't write for Apple to not give us info about an app's 
>> accessibility, give us no way to evaluate that accessibility for ourselves, 
>> force us to buy the app in order to find out, and then deny us a refund if 
>> it isn't accessible. We should either be given a way to know how accessible 
>> an app is in advance, or be given the option of a refund if we find that an 
>> app isn't accessible after purchasing it.
>> 
>> Bryan
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cara Quinn
>> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 6:29 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Accessible iPhone/iPad apps and refunds
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Bryan;
>> 
>> I for one, agree with you whole-heartedly. I've actually been in touch with 
>> Apple about this in the past, and my contacts also felt it would be a good 
>> idea, however, as yet nothing has seemingly happened with it. 
>> 
>> I'd encourage you and anyone else interested to email 
>> accessibil...@apple.com with these concerns / suggestions. 
>> 
>> I know this sounds like a blow-off, but it really isn't! lol! I think more 
>> of us just need to be nicely and politely making these points heard, that's 
>> all, and that email addie is the best way I know, to do it.  
>> 
>> Anyway, I'd surely like this situation to improve as well. Thanks so much 
>> for posting!!!...
>> 
>> SMiles,
>> 
>> Cara :)
>> ---
>> View my Online Portfolio at:
>> 
>> http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn
>> 
>> Follow me on Twitter!
>> 
>> https://twitter.com/ModelCara
>> 
>> On May 6, 2010, at 1:29 PM, Bryan Smart wrote:
>> 
>> Hi.
>> 
>> There are so many apps available. As we know, some are completely 
>> accessible, some are accessible with some workarounds, and some not at all.
>> 
>> With free apps, this isn't a problem. You install them, check them out, and, 
>> if they aren't accessible, you can just delete them.
>> 
>> With paid apps, though, the situation is different. There are some 
>> accessibility reviews of some apps, but only a fraction of what's available. 
>> Since hardly any of the apps offer demos, we must buy the app, and risk that 
>> the purchase will be wasted on an app that we can't even use. When the app 
>> only costs $0.99, like some iPhone apps, that isn't so bad, but iPad apps 
>> can cost $5, $10, and even more in some cases.
>> 
>> I think that Apple should take some small steps to accommodate us. Not only 
>> is it a sorry situation when one of us purchases an app that we discover to 
>> be inaccessible, but, for some people, having a few such experiences will 
>> trim back on their willingness to push that buy button in the future. 
>> Pressing the buy button should not feel like a roll of the dice.
>> 
>> I suggest:
>> 
>> 1. The App Store should provide some way for people to rate the 
>> accessibility of an app. A 5 star system, similar to how apps are rated in 
>> general might be nice.
>> 
>> 2. There should be some way that customers can optionally restrict the App 
>> Store to showing only accessible applications. If people would like to 
>> explore new apps, that's fine, but, if they just want to look

Re: Accessible iPhone/iPad apps and refunds

[Ricardo Walker]

Going by the model Apple has devised, I assume the accessibility of an app 
falls on the shoulders of the developers. 
On May 6, 2010, at 11:26 PM, olivia norman wrote:

> Also, I wonder who's responsibility it is to intigrate access into apps? Is 
> it Apple's? The developers?
> John also makes great observations about defining accessibility and what 
> apple should do regarding this!
> Olivia
> On May 6, 2010, at 11:06 PM, John J Herzog wrote:
> 
>> I see a problem with this philosophy. Different people view accessibility in 
>> different ways. For instance, some people would not consider the workout 
>> application posted to this list accessible because of a few unlabeled 
>> buttons. Others would be fine with it. Similarly, I have a few games on the 
>> IPod, where the introductory screens work with voiceover, and then you turn 
>> it off to play the actual game. Action bowling comes to mind. 
>> What is apple to do? How should they define accessibility? Do they give all 
>> who complain refunds, even though some complaints are more genuine and 
>> reasonable than others? Do they say that, if a certain number of buttons 
>> aren't labeled, the app is inaccessible? Do they say that, if you cannot 
>> play a game with voiceover on, then all blind people should get their money 
>> back? 
>> I know that it sucks to pay for apps which are unusable by and large. But 
>> this accessibility criteria for refunds on apps is going to cause a lot of 
>> problems. And, more importantly, I worry that if we have people constantly 
>> holding apple to different standards of "accessibility", it might sideline 
>> any further efforts they put into improving the platform for blind users. 
>> Let's not shoot ourselves in the foot here. 
>> 
>> John 
>> 
>> On May 6, 2010, at 6:39 PM, Bryan Smart wrote:
>> 
>>> Absolutely.
>>> 
>>> Anyone on the list with an iPhone, iPad, or iPod Touch, please write to 
>>> complain. It isn't write for Apple to not give us info about an app's 
>>> accessibility, give us no way to evaluate that accessibility for ourselves, 
>>> force us to buy the app in order to find out, and then deny us a refund if 
>>> it isn't accessible. We should either be given a way to know how accessible 
>>> an app is in advance, or be given the option of a refund if we find that an 
>>> app isn't accessible after purchasing it.
>>> 
>>> Bryan
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cara Quinn
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 6:29 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Accessible iPhone/iPad apps and refunds
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Bryan;
>>> 
>>> I for one, agree with you whole-heartedly. I've actually been in touch with 
>>> Apple about this in the past, and my contacts also felt it would be a good 
>>> idea, however, as yet nothing has seemingly happened with it. 
>>> 
>>> I'd encourage you and anyone else interested to email 
>>> accessibil...@apple.com with these concerns / suggestions. 
>>> 
>>> I know this sounds like a blow-off, but it really isn't! lol! I think more 
>>> of us just need to be nicely and politely making these points heard, that's 
>>> all, and that email addie is the best way I know, to do it.  
>>> 
>>> Anyway, I'd surely like this situation to improve as well. Thanks so much 
>>> for posting!!!...
>>> 
>>> SMiles,
>>> 
>>> Cara :)
>>> ---
>>> View my Online Portfolio at:
>>> 
>>> http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn
>>> 
>>> Follow me on Twitter!
>>> 
>>> https://twitter.com/ModelCara
>>> 
>>> On May 6, 2010, at 1:29 PM, Bryan Smart wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi.
>>> 
>>> There are so many apps available. As we know, some are completely 
>>> accessible, some are accessible with some workarounds, and some not at all.
>>> 
>>> With free apps, this isn't a problem. You install them, check them out, 
>>> and, if they aren't accessible, you can just delete them.
>>> 
>>> With paid apps, though, the situation is different. There are some 
>>> accessibility reviews of some apps, but only a fraction of what's 
>>> available. Since hardly any of the apps offer demos, we must buy the app, 
>>> and risk that the purchase will be wasted on an app that we can't even use. 
>>> When the app only costs $0.99, like some iPhone apps, that isn't so bad, 
>>> but iPad apps can cost $5, $10, and even more in some cases.
>>> 
>>> I think that Apple should take some small steps to accommodate us. Not only 
>>> is it a sorry situation when one of us purchases an app that we discover to 
>>> be inaccessible, but, for some people, having a few such experiences will 
>>> trim back on their willingness to push that buy button in the future. 
>>> Pressing the buy button should not feel like a roll of the dice.
>>> 
>>> I suggest:
>>> 
>>> 1. The App Store should provide some way for people to rate the 
>>> accessibility of an app. A 5 star system, similar to how apps are rated in 
>>> general might be nice.
>>> 
>>

Fwd: creating audio books from text

[rossy]

> 
> hi william ,
> i found this little and free software which can solve some problems .
> it splits big mp3 in small files and lets you choose if the split should be 
> made by time o by numbers of file .
> it is accessable , very simple and fast to use .
> in this web site you can find other software if you wish to try them . i 
> tried only   audio spliter and i am very happy to have it .
> maybe we can estend our script to combine it with this software .
> here is the link :
> Macsome Audio Splitter Freeware
> http://www.macsome.com/index.html
> 
> 
> i did some google search and here are some other names but i did not go 
> further :
> AudioSlicer 
> MP3 Splitter & Joiner, 
> Sound Grinder 3.3.9: 
> 
> 
> let me know   
>  
> Il giorno 06/mag/2010, alle ore 23.42, William Windels ha scritto:
> 
>> Hello Rossy,
>> I had tried it before but I test again now and it's not a solution.
>> It can convert them to mp3 but the result is still one big file.
>> There is a kind of bookmark  for aca-files or acc files that saves the 
>> position where you stopped with reading but this don't work on other devices 
>> outside the mac.
>> 
>> So, the conclusion at this moment: I am still looking for a solution.
>> 
>> a second way of working:
>> perhaps I can force pages or another editor to save every page of a document 
>> to a single file and then, I can modify the workflow so that every file is 
>> recorded as a mp3.
>> 
>> Some suggestions are very welcome.
>> 
>> best regards,
>> William 
>> Op 6-mei-2010, om 21:50 heeft rossy het volgende geschreven:
>> 
>>> hi maybe you can try ghost reader from
>>> www.assistiveware.com
>>> even stanza makes audio files but i don't know about daisy .
>>> let us know if you find some valid solutions .
>>> rossy
>>> Il giorno 06/mag/2010, alle ore 01.34, William Windels ha scritto:
>>> 
 Hi all,
 
 I have some troubles to create spoken text from a text so that I can 
 listen to it on my daisy/mp3 player.
 
 I have scanned a book in rtf-format and the rtf has a size of  +- 4.5 MB.
 
 I have tried the following:
 I was trying with open office 3.2 and the plugin dtb2daisy to make a daisy 
 book of the text/mp3 the in both processes, ooo was crashing/hanging.
 
 I had also tried with success to generate a mp3 from the text with the 
 workflow from www.universalaccess.it.
 This workflow uses itunes to generate a mp3 from the text.
 But, the problem is here that the mp3 is so big and the mp3player can't 
 mark places in the mp3 so I can't read the book comfortably.
 
 What I am looking for:
 1. a program for the mac to generate a daisy 2.02 structure based on a 
 text or a corresponding singel mp3-file;
 
 or
 2. a extension on the workflow that converts readable text to spoken text 
 with itunes but it should take a new mp3 for every new page;
 or
 Other suggestions are also very welcome
 
 thanx alot for your toughest about this
 
 kind regards,
 William
 
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Re: Accessible iPhone/iPad apps and refunds

[Krister Ekstrom]

Hi Cara,
I couldn't agree with you more if i tried. A friendly dialog is what takes the 
matter forward. I don't know if it has to do with where one grows up and 
possibly how, but i actually see what apple has done to us as a privilege 
rather than a "right". I also know that accessibility although high up on 
Apples list hasn't the highest priority given the market so it will go first if 
things go bad, so let's try to make them realize that their efforts are very 
much appreciated rather than yelling and bashing, ok?
/Krister

7 maj 2010 kl. 01.41 skrev Cara Quinn:

>  To be fair here, I'm not trying to help rouse the troops as it were. I 
> completely agree with you, but I'd really encourage people to simply voice 
> these concerns in a polite and amicable way, rather than complaining. 
> 
>  I say this, as (no offense to anyone in particular) in my opinion, the blind 
> community just tends to over-react, and get ridiculously up-in-arms over 
> everything much of the time, and rather than making this out to be a 
> situation where Apple is somehow the bad guys, forcing us to pay for apps, or 
> binding and preventing us from having a say as to an app's accessibility, I'd 
> simply propose that this is merely a case of the majority of the market being 
> sighted, and not enough of us voicing these concerns on a regular basis. 
> 
>  So rather than a bunch of us flagrantly flying off the handle to the people 
> at accessibil...@apple.com, I'd personally just rather see people carrying on 
> an adult dialogue which can be constructive. Quite simply, the more of us 
> that say something, the more of us that will be heard. Do we want to be heard 
> as over-emotional unstable complainers, or as rational friendly adults trying 
> to bring about positive changes?…  
> 
>  I know you know what I mean, so I won't dwell on semantics. Thanks all for 
> reading, and again, let's make our voices heard in the best way possible, K?…
> 
> Smiles,
> 
> Cara :)
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> On May 6, 2010, at 3:39 PM, Bryan Smart wrote:
> 
> Absolutely.
> 
> Anyone on the list with an iPhone, iPad, or iPod Touch, please write to 
> complain. It isn't write for Apple to not give us info about an app's 
> accessibility, give us no way to evaluate that accessibility for ourselves, 
> force us to buy the app in order to find out, and then deny us a refund if it 
> isn't accessible. We should either be given a way to know how accessible an 
> app is in advance, or be given the option of a refund if we find that an app 
> isn't accessible after purchasing it.
> 
> Bryan
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cara Quinn
> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 6:29 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Accessible iPhone/iPad apps and refunds
> 
> 
> Hi Bryan;
> 
> I for one, agree with you whole-heartedly. I've actually been in touch with 
> Apple about this in the past, and my contacts also felt it would be a good 
> idea, however, as yet nothing has seemingly happened with it. 
> 
> I'd encourage you and anyone else interested to email accessibil...@apple.com 
> with these concerns / suggestions. 
> 
> I know this sounds like a blow-off, but it really isn't! lol! I think more of 
> us just need to be nicely and politely making these points heard, that's all, 
> and that email addie is the best way I know, to do it.  
> 
> Anyway, I'd surely like this situation to improve as well. Thanks so much for 
> posting!!!...
> 
> SMiles,
> 
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> On May 6, 2010, at 1:29 PM, Bryan Smart wrote:
> 
> Hi.
> 
> There are so many apps available. As we know, some are completely accessible, 
> some are accessible with some workarounds, and some not at all.
> 
> With free apps, this isn't a problem. You install them, check them out, and, 
> if they aren't accessible, you can just delete them.
> 
> With paid apps, though, the situation is different. There are some 
> accessibility reviews of some apps, but only a fraction of what's available. 
> Since hardly any of the apps offer demos, we must buy the app, and risk that 
> the purchase will be wasted on an app that we can't even use. When the app 
> only costs $0.99, like some iPhone apps, that isn't so bad, but iPad apps can 
> cost $5, $10, and even more in some cases.
> 
> I think that Apple should take some small steps to accommodate us. Not only 
> is it a sorry situation when one of us purchases an app that we discover to 
> be inaccessible, but, for some people, having a few such experiences will 
> trim back on their willingness to push that buy button in the future. 
> Pressing the buy button should not feel like a roll of 

RE: Accessible iPhone/iPad apps and refunds

[Bryan Smart]

Right, ratings are fine. If I know that an app scores 2 out of 5 in 
accessibility reviews, I have no reason to expect it to work perfectly, but I 
can expect that at least some part of it will be minimally usable. If it gets a 
1, though, it is a safe bet that I'm not going to be able to do anything at all 
with it.

I know that Apple doesn't have any control over what 3rd party developers do 
with regard to accessibility. If we had ratings to at least know what we're 
getting in to before hand, that would be fine. If we could get a refund if we 
tried something and it didn't work, that would be fine, also. Right now, 
though, we have no advance information regarding how well an app will work, 
and, if it doesn't, we don't get a refund. This isn't Apple being cruel and 
insensitive, so no need to blame them. Something should be done, in fairness, 
though. Even though they aren't creating the problem, it is their App Store, 
the only way to get software for these devices legally, and so they're the only 
ones with power to do anything about it.

It is easy to say live and let live, but perhaps after you buy a few iPad apps 
for $10 each, and realize that you might has well have ripped up $40 or $50 and 
thrown it in the trash, you'll feel that this is worth effort. After all, if 
you bought something at a store, brought it home, and figured out that it 
didn't work, you'd take it back and get your money.

This isn't like traditional software purchases where, once a box is open, you 
can't return the software, as there is no way to know that you haven't returned 
the box while leaving the software installed on your computer. Apple has all of 
this digital rights management stuff on the iPhone and iPad so that they can 
control what you put on it, and even disable programs that you've already 
purchased. They absolutely have the power to grant refunds and turn off the 
copy that you already purchased. However, I'm not so much for refunds, as I am 
for ratings. If I spent $10 on someone's completely inaccessible program, at 
least I could get the satisfaction of sticking a 1 star rating on their app 
store page. All prospective customers see that, so it might get their 
attention, and they might decide to do something about it, at least. Right now, 
even though the app developer hasn't specifically passed over accessibility to 
spite me or you, I still feel like a sucker for having spent money that I can't 
get back for something that I can't use.

Bryan

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker
Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 5:10 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Accessible iPhone/iPad apps and refunds

Hi,

That is why I suggested a rating system with categories.  For example, labeled 
buttons would be one of the criteria for the rating system.  Let the users 
define accessibility by essentially voting on a few general components that 
make up over all accessibility for an iPhone app. 
On May 6, 2010, at 11:06 PM, John J Herzog wrote:

> I see a problem with this philosophy. Different people view accessibility in 
> different ways. For instance, some people would not consider the workout 
> application posted to this list accessible because of a few unlabeled 
> buttons. Others would be fine with it. Similarly, I have a few games on the 
> IPod, where the introductory screens work with voiceover, and then you turn 
> it off to play the actual game. Action bowling comes to mind. 
> What is apple to do? How should they define accessibility? Do they give all 
> who complain refunds, even though some complaints are more genuine and 
> reasonable than others? Do they say that, if a certain number of buttons 
> aren't labeled, the app is inaccessible? Do they say that, if you cannot play 
> a game with voiceover on, then all blind people should get their money back? 
> I know that it sucks to pay for apps which are unusable by and large. But 
> this accessibility criteria for refunds on apps is going to cause a lot of 
> problems. And, more importantly, I worry that if we have people constantly 
> holding apple to different standards of "accessibility", it might sideline 
> any further efforts they put into improving the platform for blind users. 
> Let's not shoot ourselves in the foot here. 
> 
> John
> 
> On May 6, 2010, at 6:39 PM, Bryan Smart wrote:
> 
>> Absolutely.
>> 
>> Anyone on the list with an iPhone, iPad, or iPod Touch, please write to 
>> complain. It isn't write for Apple to not give us info about an app's 
>> accessibility, give us no way to evaluate that accessibility for ourselves, 
>> force us to buy the app in order to find out, and then deny us a refund if 
>> it isn't accessible. We should either be given a way to know how accessible 
>> an app is in advance, or be given the option of a refund if we find that an 
>> app isn't accessible after purchasing it.
>> 
>> Bryan
>> 
>> -Or

Apple announces International date for iPad

[marie Howarth]

Hi,
Apple released the international date for the iPad. Those outside the US now 
can enjoy the release of Apple's latest member of its growing family on 28TH 
May. Preorder is still 10TH May. Check your local country Apple store for 
pricing details.
>From the looks, the UK is below what I expected. 
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Re: Apple announces International date for iPad

[william lomas]

can't find prices anywhere

On 7 May 2010, at 15:49, marie Howarth wrote:

> Hi,
> Apple released the international date for the iPad. Those outside the US now 
> can enjoy the release of Apple's latest member of its growing family on 28TH 
> May. Preorder is still 10TH May. Check your local country Apple store for 
> pricing details.
> From the looks, the UK is below what I expected. 
> :)
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Re: Apple announces International date for iPad

[marie Howarth]

what country are you in William? I have the UK prices.
wifi 16 £429
wifi 32 £499
Wifi 64 £599 
3G 16 £529
3G 32 £599 
3G 64 £699
all prices are including VAT
http://www.macworld.com/article/151113/2010/05/ipad_international.html?lsrc=rss_main

On 7 May 2010, at 15:57, william lomas wrote:

> can't find prices anywhere
> 
> On 7 May 2010, at 15:49, marie Howarth wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> Apple released the international date for the iPad. Those outside the US now 
>> can enjoy the release of Apple's latest member of its growing family on 28TH 
>> May. Preorder is still 10TH May. Check your local country Apple store for 
>> pricing details.
>> From the looks, the UK is below what I expected. 
>> :)
>> 
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Re: Apple announces International date for iPad

[william lomas]

ah thanks

On 7 May 2010, at 16:22, marie Howarth wrote:

> what country are you in William? I have the UK prices.
> wifi 16 £429
> wifi 32 £499
> Wifi 64 £599 
> 3G 16 £529
> 3G 32 £599 
> 3G 64 £699
> all prices are including VAT
> http://www.macworld.com/article/151113/2010/05/ipad_international.html?lsrc=rss_main
> 
> On 7 May 2010, at 15:57, william lomas wrote:
> 
>> can't find prices anywhere
>> 
>> On 7 May 2010, at 15:49, marie Howarth wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> Apple released the international date for the iPad. Those outside the US 
>>> now can enjoy the release of Apple's latest member of its growing family on 
>>> 28TH May. Preorder is still 10TH May. Check your local country Apple store 
>>> for pricing details.
>>> From the looks, the UK is below what I expected. 
>>> :)
>>> 
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Re: Apple announces International date for iPad

[Olivia Norman]

I'm curious, how do these compair to US prices?
Olivia
"Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs

On May 7, 2010, at 11:22 AM, marie Howarth wrote:

> what country are you in William? I have the UK prices.
> wifi 16 £429
> wifi 32 £499
> Wifi 64 £599 
> 3G 16 £529
> 3G 32 £599 
> 3G 64 £699
> all prices are including VAT
> http://www.macworld.com/article/151113/2010/05/ipad_international.html?lsrc=rss_main
> 
> On 7 May 2010, at 15:57, william lomas wrote:
> 
>> can't find prices anywhere
>> 
>> On 7 May 2010, at 15:49, marie Howarth wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> Apple released the international date for the iPad. Those outside the US 
>>> now can enjoy the release of Apple's latest member of its growing family on 
>>> 28TH May. Preorder is still 10TH May. Check your local country Apple store 
>>> for pricing details.
>>> From the looks, the UK is below what I expected. 
>>> :)
>>> 
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Re: Apple announces International date for iPad

[marie Howarth]

Not so bad actually Olivia. Take away VAT and we're probably paying around the 
same as the guys across the pond. 

On 7 May 2010, at 16:56, Olivia Norman wrote:

> I'm curious, how do these compair to US prices?
> Olivia
> "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs
> 
> On May 7, 2010, at 11:22 AM, marie Howarth wrote:
> 
>> what country are you in William? I have the UK prices.
>> wifi 16 £429
>> wifi 32 £499
>> Wifi 64 £599 
>> 3G 16 £529
>> 3G 32 £599 
>> 3G 64 £699
>> all prices are including VAT
>> http://www.macworld.com/article/151113/2010/05/ipad_international.html?lsrc=rss_main
>> 
>> On 7 May 2010, at 15:57, william lomas wrote:
>> 
>>> can't find prices anywhere
>>> 
>>> On 7 May 2010, at 15:49, marie Howarth wrote:
>>> 
 Hi,
 Apple released the international date for the iPad. Those outside the US 
 now can enjoy the release of Apple's latest member of its growing family 
 on 28TH May. Preorder is still 10TH May. Check your local country Apple 
 store for pricing details.
 From the looks, the UK is below what I expected. 
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Re: making dvd player in the newest incarnation of the mackbook pro region free

[Chris Blouch]

You'll have to rip the DVD first and then use something like DVDBackup 
1.3 which will remove region encoding, macrovision and encryption. The 
program is very old but still launches and the UI appeared to be 
accessible. Give it a try. I had to google around a bit to find a 
download link. Here was one:


http://mac.majorgeeks.com/downloadget.php?id=4900&file=9&evp=8e48358f3bc7daf2ddd1a4a145cf6c49

CB

Bryan Smart wrote:

Sorry, but that isn't possible, by design.

You're supposed to be locked to one region. That's so, for example, that 
Japanese publishers can overcharge people in the U. S. for imported DVDs, and 
so that Hollywood can make Europeans wait months after a U. S. release before 
they can buy a playable movie. That's the whole point of region control, so 
they can control what each region can see, when they can see it, and how much 
they'll pay to see it. If you're not happy about that situation, may I suggest 
UTorrent? Hey, it isn't copyright infringement if you already own it.

Bryan

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On Behalf Of DJ Nezumi
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 8:16 PM
To: MacVisionaries
Subject: making dvd player in the newest incarnation of the mackbook pro region 
free

hi all
i was wondering does anyone have any advice on how to make my dvd player region 
free?
i have both dvds from the UK and US and at the moment i can't watch say for 
example dvds from the UK because my drive region has to be changed but i can 
only do this a number of times i would be vary greatful if anyone has any 
advice thanks Liam

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Re: making dvd player in the newest incarnation of the mackbook pro region free

[marie Howarth]

This is very possible. I've done it for ages.

Download VLC, it's free and open source, pretty usable too.
then go to system prefs and where it says CdS/DVDs open that and next to when 
you insert  a video dvd in the pop up hit ignore.
Now open VLC to play your DVDs. still legal and you won't use up your region 
switching on the mac drive. :)

On 7 May 2010, at 17:57, Chris Blouch wrote:

> You'll have to rip the DVD first and then use something like DVDBackup 1.3 
> which will remove region encoding, macrovision and encryption. The program is 
> very old but still launches and the UI appeared to be accessible. Give it a 
> try. I had to google around a bit to find a download link. Here was one:
> 
> http://mac.majorgeeks.com/downloadget.php?id=4900&file=9&evp=8e48358f3bc7daf2ddd1a4a145cf6c49
> 
> CB
> 
> Bryan Smart wrote:
>> Sorry, but that isn't possible, by design.
>> 
>> You're supposed to be locked to one region. That's so, for example, that 
>> Japanese publishers can overcharge people in the U. S. for imported DVDs, 
>> and so that Hollywood can make Europeans wait months after a U. S. release 
>> before they can buy a playable movie. That's the whole point of region 
>> control, so they can control what each region can see, when they can see it, 
>> and how much they'll pay to see it. If you're not happy about that 
>> situation, may I suggest UTorrent? Hey, it isn't copyright infringement if 
>> you already own it.
>> 
>> Bryan
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of DJ Nezumi
>> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 8:16 PM
>> To: MacVisionaries
>> Subject: making dvd player in the newest incarnation of the mackbook pro 
>> region free
>> 
>> hi all
>> i was wondering does anyone have any advice on how to make my dvd player 
>> region free?
>> i have both dvds from the UK and US and at the moment i can't watch say for 
>> example dvds from the UK because my drive region has to be changed but i can 
>> only do this a number of times i would be vary greatful if anyone has any 
>> advice thanks Liam
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Re: Mack Mini and Monitor?

[Chris Blouch]

It used to be that you could use a mini-DVI to NTSC to 'trick' the mini 
into thinking there was a monitor but that stopped working when Apple 
dropped the analog signals from their DVI implementation. Really, how 
many people still had ntsc or pal TVs and were going to hook them up to 
a mini? Well, I'm one of them so the best I could figure out was to get 
the miniDVI to VGA adapter and then a VGA to NTSC converter. Now my mini 
thinks there is a VGA display hooked up all the time, whether or not the 
TV is actually on. Whether you come out ahead cost wise doing this is 
another thing, but you'll probably want the VGA hook up anyway.


So depending on which Mini you have you'll either needs the Apple Mini 
DVI to VGA adapter for $20


http://store.apple.com/us/product/M9320G/A?mco=MTY3ODQ5OTY

or the Apple DisplayPort to VGA adapter for $30

http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB572Z/A?mco=MTY3ODQ5OTY

I think newer Minis come with both so you could go with the cheaper 
MiniDVI to VGA adapter and then a VGA to NTSC adapter. I found a cheap 
one which runs off the USB power for $30 here:


http://sewelldirect.com/pc-to-tv.asp

Hope this helps.

CB

Bryan Smart wrote:

If there was an FAQ for this list, the frustrating and repetitious subject of 
Minis and monitors would probably be at the top. I know that there is no reason 
to assume that newbies should know this, so there is no reason to blast them, 
but it gets so old covering this over and over again. We literally seem to have 
a thread about it 2 or 3 times a week.

No, the Mini and VoiceOver won't work right without a monitor.

Yes, that's why Safari and other apps always say that they're "busy, busy, busy, 
busy".

No, there is no adaptor that you can plug in to it that will fake a monitor 
being attached.

No, the Mini isn't supposed to be a portable computer.

No, Apple isn't going to do anything to fix this in the future, as far as we 
know.

Don't feel bad, Courtney. Lots of other people assume, like you, that this will 
work. It doesn't. No way that you could know without asking in advance. Hope 
that this helps and saves time.

Maybe this is reason #1 to start an FAQ for this list?

Bryan

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Romack
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 4:46 PM
To: MacVisionaries
Subject: Re: Mack Mini and Monitor?

A couple points to note here:

Ben - Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! Rude, much? Consider that new members join this list every day, 
and they aren't privi to previous threads, unless they have no social life and sit and 
read every message dated back to the conception of this list. Apple picked a name for 
this product line that draws the to the assumption that the computer is "mini" 
enough to be portable. Consider that not everyone is as informed as you. Okay?

For the sake of this thread, and the notion that Ben may explode in a fiery 
ball of rage with what I am about to propose - what if an adapter was plugged 
into the display port of the Mini, but no display was actually attached? Could 
one purchase some sort of VGA-to-RCA adapter (if one such adapter exists), and 
plug it into something portable that receives RCA-in? Just a thought from an 
ignorant Apple- head.

romack

www.justinromack.com
twitter.com/justinromack

On May 6, 8:00 am, "Neil James"  wrote:
  
Ben, if you had read the post more carefully, perhaps you wouldn't 
have been so quick to fly off the handle? The question was if there 
exists a portable monitor not how portable the mini is. To answer the 
original question though, the smallest monitor I have come across, was 
a screen size of 12 inches, so while doable, it isn't exactly a portable monitor.


Neil





- Original Message -
From: "Ben Mustill-Rose" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: Mack Mini and Monitor?



Not portable in the sense that you could carry it to work.
How many times do we have to say to people that a mini is not portable?
  
On 05/05/2010, Courtney Curran  wrote:
  

Hi,
Since a new Mack mini apparently must have a monitor, are there any 
portable monitors like USB monitors or something. I take my Mack 
mini to work a lot.
I'm not using any monitor now, Safari seems busy a lot, but is 
still very functional.

Thanks,
Courtney

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Re: Mack Mini and Monitor?

[Courtney Curran]

I got my Mini about 2  months ago? which one will I need. 
Thanks,
Courtney

On 07/05/2010, at 3:01 in the Afternoon, Chris Blouch wrote:

> It used to be that you could use a mini-DVI to NTSC to 'trick' the mini into 
> thinking there was a monitor but that stopped working when Apple dropped the 
> analog signals from their DVI implementation. Really, how many people still 
> had ntsc or pal TVs and were going to hook them up to a mini? Well, I'm one 
> of them so the best I could figure out was to get the miniDVI to VGA adapter 
> and then a VGA to NTSC converter. Now my mini thinks there is a VGA display 
> hooked up all the time, whether or not the TV is actually on. Whether you 
> come out ahead cost wise doing this is another thing, but you'll probably 
> want the VGA hook up anyway.
> 
> So depending on which Mini you have you'll either needs the Apple Mini DVI to 
> VGA adapter for $20
> 
> http://store.apple.com/us/product/M9320G/A?mco=MTY3ODQ5OTY
> 
> or the Apple DisplayPort to VGA adapter for $30
> 
> http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB572Z/A?mco=MTY3ODQ5OTY
> 
> I think newer Minis come with both so you could go with the cheaper MiniDVI 
> to VGA adapter and then a VGA to NTSC adapter. I found a cheap one which runs 
> off the USB power for $30 here:
> 
> http://sewelldirect.com/pc-to-tv.asp
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> CB
> 
> Bryan Smart wrote:
>> 
>> If there was an FAQ for this list, the frustrating and repetitious subject 
>> of Minis and monitors would probably be at the top. I know that there is no 
>> reason to assume that newbies should know this, so there is no reason to 
>> blast them, but it gets so old covering this over and over again. We 
>> literally seem to have a thread about it 2 or 3 times a week.
>> 
>> No, the Mini and VoiceOver won't work right without a monitor.
>> 
>> Yes, that's why Safari and other apps always say that they're "busy, busy, 
>> busy, busy".
>> 
>> No, there is no adaptor that you can plug in to it that will fake a monitor 
>> being attached.
>> 
>> No, the Mini isn't supposed to be a portable computer.
>> 
>> No, Apple isn't going to do anything to fix this in the future, as far as we 
>> know.
>> 
>> Don't feel bad, Courtney. Lots of other people assume, like you, that this 
>> will work. It doesn't. No way that you could know without asking in advance. 
>> Hope that this helps and saves time.
>> 
>> Maybe this is reason #1 to start an FAQ for this list?
>> 
>> Bryan
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Romack
>> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 4:46 PM
>> To: MacVisionaries
>> Subject: Re: Mack Mini and Monitor?
>> 
>> A couple points to note here:
>> 
>> Ben - Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! Rude, much? Consider that new members join this list 
>> every day, and they aren't privi to previous threads, unless they have no 
>> social life and sit and read every message dated back to the conception of 
>> this list. Apple picked a name for this product line that draws the to the 
>> assumption that the computer is "mini" enough to be portable. Consider that 
>> not everyone is as informed as you. Okay?
>> 
>> For the sake of this thread, and the notion that Ben may explode in a fiery 
>> ball of rage with what I am about to propose - what if an adapter was 
>> plugged into the display port of the Mini, but no display was actually 
>> attached? Could one purchase some sort of VGA-to-RCA adapter (if one such 
>> adapter exists), and plug it into something portable that receives RCA-in? 
>> Just a thought from an ignorant Apple- head.
>> 
>> romack
>> 
>> www.justinromack.com
>> twitter.com/justinromack
>> 
>> On May 6, 8:00 am, "Neil James"  wrote:
>>   
>>> Ben, if you had read the post more carefully, perhaps you wouldn't 
>>> have been so quick to fly off the handle? The question was if there 
>>> exists a portable monitor not how portable the mini is. To answer the 
>>> original question though, the smallest monitor I have come across, was 
>>> a screen size of 12 inches, so while doable, it isn't exactly a portable 
>>> monitor.
>>> 
>>> Neil
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Ben Mustill-Rose" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 11:45 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Mack Mini and Monitor?
>>> 
>>> 
 Not portable in the sense that you could carry it to work.
 How many times do we have to say to people that a mini is not portable?
   
 On 05/05/2010, Courtney Curran  wrote:
   
> Hi,
> Since a new Mack mini apparently must have a monitor, are there any 
> portable monitors like USB monitors or something. I take my Mack 
> mini to work a lot.
> I'm not using any monitor now, Safari seems busy a lot, but is 
> still very functional.
> Thanks,
> Courtney
> 
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Re: Mack Mini and Monitor?

[Chris Blouch]

According to Apple's site:

http://www.apple.com/macmini/specs.html

you should have both the MiniDVI and a displayport. Since the MiniDVI is 
$10 cheaper I'd go with that.


CB

Courtney Curran wrote:
I got my Mini about 2  months ago? which one will I need. 
Thanks,

Courtney

On 07/05/2010, at 3:01 in the Afternoon, Chris Blouch wrote:

It used to be that you could use a mini-DVI to NTSC to 'trick' the 
mini into thinking there was a monitor but that stopped working when 
Apple dropped the analog signals from their DVI implementation. 
Really, how many people still had ntsc or pal TVs and were going to 
hook them up to a mini? Well, I'm one of them so the best I could 
figure out was to get the miniDVI to VGA adapter and then a VGA to 
NTSC converter. Now my mini thinks there is a VGA display hooked up 
all the time, whether or not the TV is actually on. Whether you come 
out ahead cost wise doing this is another thing, but you'll probably 
want the VGA hook up anyway.


So depending on which Mini you have you'll either needs the Apple 
Mini DVI to VGA adapter for $20


http://store.apple.com/us/product/M9320G/A?mco=MTY3ODQ5OTY

or the Apple DisplayPort to VGA adapter for $30

http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB572Z/A?mco=MTY3ODQ5OTY

I think newer Minis come with both so you could go with the cheaper 
MiniDVI to VGA adapter and then a VGA to NTSC adapter. I found a 
cheap one which runs off the USB power for $30 here:


http://sewelldirect.com/pc-to-tv.asp

Hope this helps.

CB

Bryan Smart wrote:

If there was an FAQ for this list, the frustrating and repetitious subject of 
Minis and monitors would probably be at the top. I know that there is no reason 
to assume that newbies should know this, so there is no reason to blast them, 
but it gets so old covering this over and over again. We literally seem to have 
a thread about it 2 or 3 times a week.

No, the Mini and VoiceOver won't work right without a monitor.

Yes, that's why Safari and other apps always say that they're "busy, busy, busy, 
busy".

No, there is no adaptor that you can plug in to it that will fake a monitor 
being attached.

No, the Mini isn't supposed to be a portable computer.

No, Apple isn't going to do anything to fix this in the future, as far as we 
know.

Don't feel bad, Courtney. Lots of other people assume, like you, that this will 
work. It doesn't. No way that you could know without asking in advance. Hope 
that this helps and saves time.

Maybe this is reason #1 to start an FAQ for this list?

Bryan

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Romack
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 4:46 PM
To: MacVisionaries
Subject: Re: Mack Mini and Monitor?

A couple points to note here:

Ben - Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! Rude, much? Consider that new members join this list every day, 
and they aren't privi to previous threads, unless they have no social life and sit and 
read every message dated back to the conception of this list. Apple picked a name for 
this product line that draws the to the assumption that the computer is "mini" 
enough to be portable. Consider that not everyone is as informed as you. Okay?

For the sake of this thread, and the notion that Ben may explode in a fiery 
ball of rage with what I am about to propose - what if an adapter was plugged 
into the display port of the Mini, but no display was actually attached? Could 
one purchase some sort of VGA-to-RCA adapter (if one such adapter exists), and 
plug it into something portable that receives RCA-in? Just a thought from an 
ignorant Apple- head.

romack

www.justinromack.com
twitter.com/justinromack 

On May 6, 8:00 am, "Neil James"  wrote:
  
Ben, if you had read the post more carefully, perhaps you wouldn't 
have been so quick to fly off the handle? The question was if there 
exists a portable monitor not how portable the mini is. To answer the 
original question though, the smallest monitor I have come across, was 
a screen size of 12 inches, so while doable, it isn't exactly a portable monitor.


Neil





- Original Message -
From: "Ben Mustill-Rose" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: Mack Mini and Monitor?



Not portable in the sense that you could carry it to work.
How many times do we have to say to people that a mini is not portable?
  
On 05/05/2010, Courtney Curran  wrote:
  

Hi,
Since a new Mack mini apparently must have a monitor, are there any 
portable monitors like USB monitors or something. I take my Mack 
mini to work a lot.
I'm not using any monitor now, Safari seems busy a lot, but is 
still very functional.

Thanks,
Courtney

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Kind of a dumb (and maybe a little off-topic) question About the iPad I'm embarrased to ask.

[Pete Nalda]

Hi all,
I thought I'd ask this here because of the recent iPad talk on this list.  
Topic related part of this is that I'm considering an iPad as a more Zoomable 
media Player/Content viewer/creator.  That said, can one have this thing in a 
bag or backpack playing back music or a podcast?  What about accidental screen 
presses?  I tried activating the screen lock switch at the store, but that's 
only for locking the screen from being rotated.  I thought the power button 
would freeze the controls, but that shuts off everything and puts it to sleep.  
I thought with an iPad I could leave my ipod at home and just use the iPad to 
listen to music.  Is this not possible in transit?  What about with a case?  I 
think a dedicated hold button would be really nice, but I'm guessing that would 
be asking too much as they'd have to redesign the hardware.  I'm really 
embarrassed to ask this stuff, as I'm applying at the Apple store and this 
should be something I'd know.  TIA.
 
Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates)
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Re: Kind of a dumb (and maybe a little off-topic) question About the iPad I'm embarrased to ask.

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

I don't think you need to worry about accidental screen presses.  The screen 
reacts to your skin not pressure.  So having it in a big should be fine. 
On May 7, 2010, at 4:43 PM, Pete Nalda wrote:

> Hi all,
> I thought I'd ask this here because of the recent iPad talk on this list.  
> Topic related part of this is that I'm considering an iPad as a more Zoomable 
> media Player/Content viewer/creator.  That said, can one have this thing in a 
> bag or backpack playing back music or a podcast?  What about accidental 
> screen presses?  I tried activating the screen lock switch at the store, but 
> that's only for locking the screen from being rotated.  I thought the power 
> button would freeze the controls, but that shuts off everything and puts it 
> to sleep.  I thought with an iPad I could leave my ipod at home and just use 
> the iPad to listen to music.  Is this not possible in transit?  What about 
> with a case?  I think a dedicated hold button would be really nice, but I'm 
> guessing that would be asking too much as they'd have to redesign the 
> hardware.  I'm really embarrassed to ask this stuff, as I'm applying at the 
> Apple store and this should be something I'd know.  TIA.
> 
> Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates)
> Pete Nalda
> http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda
> http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda
> 
> 
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Re: Kind of a dumb (and maybe a little off-topic) question About the iPad I'm embarrased to ask.

[Pete Nalda]

Cool!  Because I have a backpack with a padded laptop insert that even has a 
outlet to run headphones through, and have at least one little book I carry to 
prop the iPad up on for typing, so I won't even really need a case.  My mind is 
at ease.  Thanks for the answer :)

On May 7, 2010, at 3:55 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I don't think you need to worry about accidental screen presses.  The screen 
> reacts to your skin not pressure.  So having it in a big should be fine. 
> On May 7, 2010, at 4:43 PM, Pete Nalda wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> I thought I'd ask this here because of the recent iPad talk on this list.  
>> Topic related part of this is that I'm considering an iPad as a more 
>> Zoomable media Player/Content viewer/creator.  That said, can one have this 
>> thing in a bag or backpack playing back music or a podcast?  What about 
>> accidental screen presses?  I tried activating the screen lock switch at the 
>> store, but that's only for locking the screen from being rotated.  I thought 
>> the power button would freeze the controls, but that shuts off everything 
>> and puts it to sleep.  I thought with an iPad I could leave my ipod at home 
>> and just use the iPad to listen to music.  Is this not possible in transit?  
>> What about with a case?  I think a dedicated hold button would be really 
>> nice, but I'm guessing that would be asking too much as they'd have to 
>> redesign the hardware.  I'm really embarrassed to ask this stuff, as I'm 
>> applying at the Apple store and this should be something I'd know.  TIA.
>> 
>> Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates)
>> Pete Nalda
>> http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda
>> http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda
>> 
>> 
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Re: Kind of a dumb (and maybe a little off-topic) question About the iPad I'm embarrased to ask.

[Charlie Doremus]

Two points! First you can lock the ipad screen by pressing the power button. 
Also using a case would cover the screen completely preventing any sort of 
"screen presses". 
 
Sent from the iPad I wish I had

On May 7, 2010, at 10:55 AM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I don't think you need to worry about accidental screen presses.  The screen 
> reacts to your skin not pressure.  So having it in a big should be fine. 
> On May 7, 2010, at 4:43 PM, Pete Nalda wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> I thought I'd ask this here because of the recent iPad talk on this list.  
>> Topic related part of this is that I'm considering an iPad as a more 
>> Zoomable media Player/Content viewer/creator.  That said, can one have this 
>> thing in a bag or backpack playing back music or a podcast?  What about 
>> accidental screen presses?  I tried activating the screen lock switch at the 
>> store, but that's only for locking the screen from being rotated.  I thought 
>> the power button would freeze the controls, but that shuts off everything 
>> and puts it to sleep.  I thought with an iPad I could leave my ipod at home 
>> and just use the iPad to listen to music.  Is this not possible in transit?  
>> What about with a case?  I think a dedicated hold button would be really 
>> nice, but I'm guessing that would be asking too much as they'd have to 
>> redesign the hardware.  I'm really embarrassed to ask this stuff, as I'm 
>> applying at the Apple store and this should be something I'd know.  TIA.
>> 
>> Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates)
>> Pete Nalda
>> http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda
>> http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda
>> 
>> 
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Summary on Accessible Dictionary apps for the iPhone/iPod Touch/iPad [was Re: Looking for a dictionary]

[Esther]

Hi Paul,

I agree with Enjie that the Dictionary.com app is a very good choice  
for iPhone, iPod Touch, and iPad users who use VoiceOver.  It's free,  
has nearly 1,000,000 words and 90,000 synonyms, a thesaurus, and will  
pronounce words if you double tap on the link image that follows each  
word.  Furthermore, all these functions work (excerpt for the  
pronunciation of the word) whether or not you have an internet  
connection.  There's a nice history function, and also a "Word of the  
Day", and it's all accessible.


To answer your question, the WordBook Dictionary is accessible, also  
has a thesaurus, is modestly priced ($1.99 for iPhone or iPod Touch;  
$2.99 for the iPad) and has some nice functions like allowing you to  
choose the voice used for pronunciation.  It also has some nice links  
to other web dictionaries. bookmarking features, word of the day,  
etc.  But what makes this app rather annoying for the VoiceOver user  
is the fact that the basic definition portion of the dictionary has  
linked nearly all the words in each definition.  Although you can  
double tap any one of these definitions to go to the linked entry, the  
definition gets read out by VoiceOver with "link" following nearly  
every word.  You might want to explore this yourself to see whether  
the added features outweigh the annoyances.  I think that the voice  
selection gets turned on when you do a search and then you are given  
options for the voice to choose for the pronunciation under the audio  
button.


The other dictionary app that I've used is the Advanced English  
Dictionary & Thesaurus ($0.99 or £0.59) by jDictionary Mobile, the  
same people who produce The World Factbook 2010 ($0.99).  The Advanced  
English Dictionary is more of interest (to me) for its thesaurus use  
and links to related terms that come up in general contexts.  These  
could be, for instance, cooking terms, popular science words, economic  
terms, etc. (Linked terms are kept under a separate entry, so  
definitions are read out fine.)  Here's a link to a review of  
jDicitionary Mobile's Advanced English Dictionary & Thesaurus app that  
outlines some of the strengths in the way this app links to related  
words:

Their quick summary: "AED cleverly fits words into a structure of  
meaning rather than a simple alphabetical list. One for explorers of  
language rather than crossword buffs."


I'd suggest that most list users will want to check out the free  
Dictionary.com app first, and leave these other apps for additional  
exploration.


Here are links to the apps mentioned in this post.  All should be  
available internationally,  All apps for the iPhone work on iPhone,  
iPod Touch, and iPad (according to the store listings). However, the  
WordBook and Dictionary.com apps have separate versions optimized to  
use the larger screen of the iPad. Please note that the Dictionary.com  
apps in particular can take a while to load -- they're over 42 MB and  
best downloaded over a WiFi connection.  Remember that all these apps  
work independent of a network connection, so the database must be held  
on the device.


• Dictionary.com - Dictionary & Thesaurus (free) by Dictionary.com
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/dictionary-com-dictionary/id308750436?mt=8
• Dictionary.com - Dictionary & Thesaurus - For iPad  (free) by  
Dictionary.com

http://itunes.apple.com/us/artist/dictionary-com/id308750439
• WordBook English Dictionary & Thesaurus ($1.99) by Trancreative  
Software

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/wordbook-english-dictionary/id289694924?mt=8
• WordBook XL - English Dictionary & Thesaurus for the iPad ($2.99) by  
Trancreative Software

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/wordbook-xl-english-dictionary/id364030280?mt=8
• The Advanced English Dictionary & Thesaurus ($0.99) by jDictionary  
Mobile

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/advanced-english-dictionary/id293150206?mt=8
• The World Factbook 2010 ($0.99) by jDicitionary Mobile
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/the-world-factbook-2010/id310064645?mt=8

HTH

Cheers,

Esther

Enjie Hall wrote:

I am using the Dictionary.com app, which is both free and accessible  
with VO.


Enjie
- Original Message - From: "Paul Henrichsen" >

To: "Iphone UsersGroup" 
Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 1:19 PM
Subject: Looking for a dictionary



Hi, guys. Does anyone know if the wordbook dictionary is accessible?



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What stream recorder for Mac?

[Martin Kirchner]

Hi all,

what stream recording app do you prefer that runs as properly as possible 
together with vo? to make local recordings, my choice is WavePad by NCH 
software. Unfortunately that app don't have any web stream recording capability.

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Re: Mack Mini and Monitor?

[Courtney Curran]

Thanks so much for that info. I appreciate it, I'm going to purchase one today, 
I'm quite excited to see what the differences are.
Thanks again,
Courtney 
On 07/05/2010, at 4:36 in the Afternoon, Chris Blouch wrote:

> According to Apple's site:
> 
> http://www.apple.com/macmini/specs.html
> 
> you should have both the MiniDVI and a displayport. Since the MiniDVI is $10 
> cheaper I'd go with that.
> 
> CB
> 
> Courtney Curran wrote:
>> 
>> I got my Mini about 2  months ago? which one will I need. 
>> Thanks,
>> Courtney
>> 
>> On 07/05/2010, at 3:01 in the Afternoon, Chris Blouch wrote:
>> 
>>> It used to be that you could use a mini-DVI to NTSC to 'trick' the mini 
>>> into thinking there was a monitor but that stopped working when Apple 
>>> dropped the analog signals from their DVI implementation. Really, how many 
>>> people still had ntsc or pal TVs and were going to hook them up to a mini? 
>>> Well, I'm one of them so the best I could figure out was to get the miniDVI 
>>> to VGA adapter and then a VGA to NTSC converter. Now my mini thinks there 
>>> is a VGA display hooked up all the time, whether or not the TV is actually 
>>> on. Whether you come out ahead cost wise doing this is another thing, but 
>>> you'll probably want the VGA hook up anyway.
>>> 
>>> So depending on which Mini you have you'll either needs the Apple Mini DVI 
>>> to VGA adapter for $20
>>> 
>>> http://store.apple.com/us/product/M9320G/A?mco=MTY3ODQ5OTY
>>> 
>>> or the Apple DisplayPort to VGA adapter for $30
>>> 
>>> http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB572Z/A?mco=MTY3ODQ5OTY
>>> 
>>> I think newer Minis come with both so you could go with the cheaper MiniDVI 
>>> to VGA adapter and then a VGA to NTSC adapter. I found a cheap one which 
>>> runs off the USB power for $30 here:
>>> 
>>> http://sewelldirect.com/pc-to-tv.asp
>>> 
>>> Hope this helps.
>>> 
>>> CB
>>> 
>>> Bryan Smart wrote:
 
 If there was an FAQ for this list, the frustrating and repetitious subject 
 of Minis and monitors would probably be at the top. I know that there is 
 no reason to assume that newbies should know this, so there is no reason 
 to blast them, but it gets so old covering this over and over again. We 
 literally seem to have a thread about it 2 or 3 times a week.
 
 No, the Mini and VoiceOver won't work right without a monitor.
 
 Yes, that's why Safari and other apps always say that they're "busy, busy, 
 busy, busy".
 
 No, there is no adaptor that you can plug in to it that will fake a 
 monitor being attached.
 
 No, the Mini isn't supposed to be a portable computer.
 
 No, Apple isn't going to do anything to fix this in the future, as far as 
 we know.
 
 Don't feel bad, Courtney. Lots of other people assume, like you, that this 
 will work. It doesn't. No way that you could know without asking in 
 advance. Hope that this helps and saves time.
 
 Maybe this is reason #1 to start an FAQ for this list?
 
 Bryan
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Romack
 Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 4:46 PM
 To: MacVisionaries
 Subject: Re: Mack Mini and Monitor?
 
 A couple points to note here:
 
 Ben - Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! Rude, much? Consider that new members join this 
 list every day, and they aren't privi to previous threads, unless they 
 have no social life and sit and read every message dated back to the 
 conception of this list. Apple picked a name for this product line that 
 draws the to the assumption that the computer is "mini" enough to be 
 portable. Consider that not everyone is as informed as you. Okay?
 
 For the sake of this thread, and the notion that Ben may explode in a 
 fiery ball of rage with what I am about to propose - what if an adapter 
 was plugged into the display port of the Mini, but no display was actually 
 attached? Could one purchase some sort of VGA-to-RCA adapter (if one such 
 adapter exists), and plug it into something portable that receives RCA-in? 
 Just a thought from an ignorant Apple- head.
 
 romack
 
 www.justinromack.com
 twitter.com/justinromack
 
 On May 6, 8:00 am, "Neil James"  wrote:
   
> Ben, if you had read the post more carefully, perhaps you wouldn't 
> have been so quick to fly off the handle? The question was if there 
> exists a portable monitor not how portable the mini is. To answer the 
> original question though, the smallest monitor I have come across, was 
> a screen size of 12 inches, so while doable, it isn't exactly a portable 
> monitor.
> 
> Neil
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Ben Mustill-Rose" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 11:45 AM
> Subject: Re: Mack Mini and Mon

Re: Kind of a dumb (and maybe a little off-topic) question About the iPad I'm embarrased to ask.

[Pete Nalda]

Ok, but how come when I pushed the power button the music would stop? Was I 
pushing it too long?  And yeah I know a case would prevent anything touching 
the screen, but my backpack has a suspended padded compartment so I was just 
going to put it in there, but hopefully while having a podcast or music going.
I also have a sling with suspended padding as well.

On May 7, 2010, at 5:17 PM, Charlie Doremus wrote:

> Two points! First you can lock the ipad screen by pressing the power button. 
> Also using a case would cover the screen completely preventing any sort of 
> "screen presses". 
> 
> Sent from the iPad I wish I had
> 
> On May 7, 2010, at 10:55 AM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I don't think you need to worry about accidental screen presses.  The screen 
>> reacts to your skin not pressure.  So having it in a big should be fine. 
>> On May 7, 2010, at 4:43 PM, Pete Nalda wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> I thought I'd ask this here because of the recent iPad talk on this list.  
>>> Topic related part of this is that I'm considering an iPad as a more 
>>> Zoomable media Player/Content viewer/creator.  That said, can one have this 
>>> thing in a bag or backpack playing back music or a podcast?  What about 
>>> accidental screen presses?  I tried activating the screen lock switch at 
>>> the store, but that's only for locking the screen from being rotated.  I 
>>> thought the power button would freeze the controls, but that shuts off 
>>> everything and puts it to sleep.  I thought with an iPad I could leave my 
>>> ipod at home and just use the iPad to listen to music.  Is this not 
>>> possible in transit?  What about with a case?  I think a dedicated hold 
>>> button would be really nice, but I'm guessing that would be asking too much 
>>> as they'd have to redesign the hardware.  I'm really embarrassed to ask 
>>> this stuff, as I'm applying at the Apple store and this should be something 
>>> I'd know.  TIA.
>>> 
>>> Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates)
>>> Pete Nalda
>>> http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda
>>> http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Kind of a dumb (and maybe a little off-topic) question About the iPad I'm embarrased to ask.

[Charlie Doremus]

Pete,
If you happen to tap the iPad screen once you have pressed and held the power 
button your iPod will shut down. So the trick is not to tap once you start your 
music.

Sent from the iPad I wish I had

On May 7, 2010, at 12:36 PM, Pete Nalda  wrote:

> Ok, but how come when I pushed the power button the music would stop? Was I 
> pushing it too long?  And yeah I know a case would prevent anything touching 
> the screen, but my backpack has a suspended padded compartment so I was just 
> going to put it in there, but hopefully while having a podcast or music going.
> I also have a sling with suspended padding as well.
> 
> On May 7, 2010, at 5:17 PM, Charlie Doremus wrote:
> 
>> Two points! First you can lock the ipad screen by pressing the power button. 
>> Also using a case would cover the screen completely preventing any sort of 
>> "screen presses". 
>> 
>> Sent from the iPad I wish I had
>> 
>> On May 7, 2010, at 10:55 AM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I don't think you need to worry about accidental screen presses.  The 
>>> screen reacts to your skin not pressure.  So having it in a big should be 
>>> fine. 
>>> On May 7, 2010, at 4:43 PM, Pete Nalda wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all,
 I thought I'd ask this here because of the recent iPad talk on this list.  
 Topic related part of this is that I'm considering an iPad as a more 
 Zoomable media Player/Content viewer/creator.  That said, can one have 
 this thing in a bag or backpack playing back music or a podcast?  What 
 about accidental screen presses?  I tried activating the screen lock 
 switch at the store, but that's only for locking the screen from being 
 rotated.  I thought the power button would freeze the controls, but that 
 shuts off everything and puts it to sleep.  I thought with an iPad I could 
 leave my ipod at home and just use the iPad to listen to music.  Is this 
 not possible in transit?  What about with a case?  I think a dedicated 
 hold button would be really nice, but I'm guessing that would be asking 
 too much as they'd have to redesign the hardware.  I'm really embarrassed 
 to ask this stuff, as I'm applying at the Apple store and this should be 
 something I'd know.  TIA.
 
 Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates)
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Re: Mack Mini and Monitor?

[Courtney Curran]

This could be a dumb question, but my Tv's about 2 or 3 years old, does this 
matter?
Thanks, 
Courtney
On 07/05/2010, at 3:01 in the Afternoon, Chris Blouch wrote:

> It used to be that you could use a mini-DVI to NTSC to 'trick' the mini into 
> thinking there was a monitor but that stopped working when Apple dropped the 
> analog signals from their DVI implementation. Really, how many people still 
> had ntsc or pal TVs and were going to hook them up to a mini? Well, I'm one 
> of them so the best I could figure out was to get the miniDVI to VGA adapter 
> and then a VGA to NTSC converter. Now my mini thinks there is a VGA display 
> hooked up all the time, whether or not the TV is actually on. Whether you 
> come out ahead cost wise doing this is another thing, but you'll probably 
> want the VGA hook up anyway.
> 
> So depending on which Mini you have you'll either needs the Apple Mini DVI to 
> VGA adapter for $20
> 
> http://store.apple.com/us/product/M9320G/A?mco=MTY3ODQ5OTY
> 
> or the Apple DisplayPort to VGA adapter for $30
> 
> http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB572Z/A?mco=MTY3ODQ5OTY
> 
> I think newer Minis come with both so you could go with the cheaper MiniDVI 
> to VGA adapter and then a VGA to NTSC adapter. I found a cheap one which runs 
> off the USB power for $30 here:
> 
> http://sewelldirect.com/pc-to-tv.asp
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> CB
> 
> Bryan Smart wrote:
>> 
>> If there was an FAQ for this list, the frustrating and repetitious subject 
>> of Minis and monitors would probably be at the top. I know that there is no 
>> reason to assume that newbies should know this, so there is no reason to 
>> blast them, but it gets so old covering this over and over again. We 
>> literally seem to have a thread about it 2 or 3 times a week.
>> 
>> No, the Mini and VoiceOver won't work right without a monitor.
>> 
>> Yes, that's why Safari and other apps always say that they're "busy, busy, 
>> busy, busy".
>> 
>> No, there is no adaptor that you can plug in to it that will fake a monitor 
>> being attached.
>> 
>> No, the Mini isn't supposed to be a portable computer.
>> 
>> No, Apple isn't going to do anything to fix this in the future, as far as we 
>> know.
>> 
>> Don't feel bad, Courtney. Lots of other people assume, like you, that this 
>> will work. It doesn't. No way that you could know without asking in advance. 
>> Hope that this helps and saves time.
>> 
>> Maybe this is reason #1 to start an FAQ for this list?
>> 
>> Bryan
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Romack
>> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 4:46 PM
>> To: MacVisionaries
>> Subject: Re: Mack Mini and Monitor?
>> 
>> A couple points to note here:
>> 
>> Ben - Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! Rude, much? Consider that new members join this list 
>> every day, and they aren't privi to previous threads, unless they have no 
>> social life and sit and read every message dated back to the conception of 
>> this list. Apple picked a name for this product line that draws the to the 
>> assumption that the computer is "mini" enough to be portable. Consider that 
>> not everyone is as informed as you. Okay?
>> 
>> For the sake of this thread, and the notion that Ben may explode in a fiery 
>> ball of rage with what I am about to propose - what if an adapter was 
>> plugged into the display port of the Mini, but no display was actually 
>> attached? Could one purchase some sort of VGA-to-RCA adapter (if one such 
>> adapter exists), and plug it into something portable that receives RCA-in? 
>> Just a thought from an ignorant Apple- head.
>> 
>> romack
>> 
>> www.justinromack.com
>> twitter.com/justinromack
>> 
>> On May 6, 8:00 am, "Neil James"  wrote:
>>   
>>> Ben, if you had read the post more carefully, perhaps you wouldn't 
>>> have been so quick to fly off the handle? The question was if there 
>>> exists a portable monitor not how portable the mini is. To answer the 
>>> original question though, the smallest monitor I have come across, was 
>>> a screen size of 12 inches, so while doable, it isn't exactly a portable 
>>> monitor.
>>> 
>>> Neil
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Ben Mustill-Rose" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 11:45 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Mack Mini and Monitor?
>>> 
>>> 
 Not portable in the sense that you could carry it to work.
 How many times do we have to say to people that a mini is not portable?
   
 On 05/05/2010, Courtney Curran  wrote:
   
> Hi,
> Since a new Mack mini apparently must have a monitor, are there any 
> portable monitors like USB monitors or something. I take my Mack 
> mini to work a lot.
> I'm not using any monitor now, Safari seems busy a lot, but is 
> still very functional.
> Thanks,
> Courtney
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Re: Kind of a dumb (and maybe a little off-topic) question About the iPad I'm embarrased to ask.

[marie Howarth]

I may be wrong but on the iPhone if you hold the power button it will bring up 
the power options. To lock the iPhone you just press the power button once and 
it locks. I'm assuming, possibly incorrectly the same is true on the iPad. No 
holding, just press the power button.

On 8 May 2010, at 00:03, Charlie Doremus wrote:

> Pete,
> If you happen to tap the iPad screen once you have pressed and held the power 
> button your iPod will shut down. So the trick is not to tap once you start 
> your music.
> 
> Sent from the iPad I wish I had
> 
> On May 7, 2010, at 12:36 PM, Pete Nalda  wrote:
> 
>> Ok, but how come when I pushed the power button the music would stop? Was I 
>> pushing it too long?  And yeah I know a case would prevent anything touching 
>> the screen, but my backpack has a suspended padded compartment so I was just 
>> going to put it in there, but hopefully while having a podcast or music 
>> going.
>> I also have a sling with suspended padding as well.
>> 
>> On May 7, 2010, at 5:17 PM, Charlie Doremus wrote:
>> 
>>> Two points! First you can lock the ipad screen by pressing the power 
>>> button. Also using a case would cover the screen completely preventing any 
>>> sort of "screen presses". 
>>> 
>>> Sent from the iPad I wish I had
>>> 
>>> On May 7, 2010, at 10:55 AM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi,
 
 I don't think you need to worry about accidental screen presses.  The 
 screen reacts to your skin not pressure.  So having it in a big should be 
 fine. 
 On May 7, 2010, at 4:43 PM, Pete Nalda wrote:
 
> Hi all,
> I thought I'd ask this here because of the recent iPad talk on this list. 
>  Topic related part of this is that I'm considering an iPad as a more 
> Zoomable media Player/Content viewer/creator.  That said, can one have 
> this thing in a bag or backpack playing back music or a podcast?  What 
> about accidental screen presses?  I tried activating the screen lock 
> switch at the store, but that's only for locking the screen from being 
> rotated.  I thought the power button would freeze the controls, but that 
> shuts off everything and puts it to sleep.  I thought with an iPad I 
> could leave my ipod at home and just use the iPad to listen to music.  Is 
> this not possible in transit?  What about with a case?  I think a 
> dedicated hold button would be really nice, but I'm guessing that would 
> be asking too much as they'd have to redesign the hardware.  I'm really 
> embarrassed to ask this stuff, as I'm applying at the Apple store and 
> this should be something I'd know.  TIA.
> 
> Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates)
> Pete Nalda
> http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda
> http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Kind of a dumb (and maybe a little off-topic) question About the iPad I'm embarrased to ask.

[Charlie Doremus]

Correct

Sent from the iPad I wish I had

On May 7, 2010, at 1:06 PM, marie Howarth  wrote:

> I may be wrong but on the iPhone if you hold the power button it will bring 
> up the power options. To lock the iPhone you just press the power button once 
> and it locks. I'm assuming, possibly incorrectly the same is true on the 
> iPad. No holding, just press the power button.
> 
> On 8 May 2010, at 00:03, Charlie Doremus wrote:
> 
>> Pete,
>> If you happen to tap the iPad screen once you have pressed and held the 
>> power button your iPod will shut down. So the trick is not to tap once you 
>> start your music.
>> 
>> Sent from the iPad I wish I had
>> 
>> On May 7, 2010, at 12:36 PM, Pete Nalda  wrote:
>> 
>>> Ok, but how come when I pushed the power button the music would stop? Was I 
>>> pushing it too long?  And yeah I know a case would prevent anything 
>>> touching the screen, but my backpack has a suspended padded compartment so 
>>> I was just going to put it in there, but hopefully while having a podcast 
>>> or music going.
>>> I also have a sling with suspended padding as well.
>>> 
>>> On May 7, 2010, at 5:17 PM, Charlie Doremus wrote:
>>> 
 Two points! First you can lock the ipad screen by pressing the power 
 button. Also using a case would cover the screen completely preventing any 
 sort of "screen presses". 
 
 Sent from the iPad I wish I had
 
 On May 7, 2010, at 10:55 AM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
 
> Hi,
> 
> I don't think you need to worry about accidental screen presses.  The 
> screen reacts to your skin not pressure.  So having it in a big should be 
> fine. 
> On May 7, 2010, at 4:43 PM, Pete Nalda wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> I thought I'd ask this here because of the recent iPad talk on this 
>> list.  Topic related part of this is that I'm considering an iPad as a 
>> more Zoomable media Player/Content viewer/creator.  That said, can one 
>> have this thing in a bag or backpack playing back music or a podcast?  
>> What about accidental screen presses?  I tried activating the screen 
>> lock switch at the store, but that's only for locking the screen from 
>> being rotated.  I thought the power button would freeze the controls, 
>> but that shuts off everything and puts it to sleep.  I thought with an 
>> iPad I could leave my ipod at home and just use the iPad to listen to 
>> music.  Is this not possible in transit?  What about with a case?  I 
>> think a dedicated hold button would be really nice, but I'm guessing 
>> that would be asking too much as they'd have to redesign the hardware.  
>> I'm really embarrassed to ask this stuff, as I'm applying at the Apple 
>> store and this should be something I'd know.  TIA.
>> 
>> Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates)
>> Pete Nalda
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Re: Kind of a dumb (and maybe a little off-topic) question About the iPad I'm embarrased to ask.

[Pete Nalda]

Ok thanks everyone.  I'll check this stuff out next time I'm in the store.  I'm 
just weighing all my options with the IPad before I commit to it, as the 
Touches are so much cheaper.

On May 7, 2010, at 6:10 PM, Charlie Doremus wrote:

> Correct
> 
> Sent from the iPad I wish I had
> 
> On May 7, 2010, at 1:06 PM, marie Howarth  wrote:
> 
>> I may be wrong but on the iPhone if you hold the power button it will bring 
>> up the power options. To lock the iPhone you just press the power button 
>> once and it locks. I'm assuming, possibly incorrectly the same is true on 
>> the iPad. No holding, just press the power button.
>> 
>> On 8 May 2010, at 00:03, Charlie Doremus wrote:
>> 
>>> Pete,
>>> If you happen to tap the iPad screen once you have pressed and held the 
>>> power button your iPod will shut down. So the trick is not to tap once you 
>>> start your music.
>>> 
>>> Sent from the iPad I wish I had
>>> 
>>> On May 7, 2010, at 12:36 PM, Pete Nalda  wrote:
>>> 
 Ok, but how come when I pushed the power button the music would stop? Was 
 I pushing it too long?  And yeah I know a case would prevent anything 
 touching the screen, but my backpack has a suspended padded compartment so 
 I was just going to put it in there, but hopefully while having a podcast 
 or music going.
 I also have a sling with suspended padding as well.
 
 On May 7, 2010, at 5:17 PM, Charlie Doremus wrote:
 
> Two points! First you can lock the ipad screen by pressing the power 
> button. Also using a case would cover the screen completely preventing 
> any sort of "screen presses". 
> 
> Sent from the iPad I wish I had
> 
> On May 7, 2010, at 10:55 AM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I don't think you need to worry about accidental screen presses.  The 
>> screen reacts to your skin not pressure.  So having it in a big should 
>> be fine. 
>> On May 7, 2010, at 4:43 PM, Pete Nalda wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> I thought I'd ask this here because of the recent iPad talk on this 
>>> list.  Topic related part of this is that I'm considering an iPad as a 
>>> more Zoomable media Player/Content viewer/creator.  That said, can one 
>>> have this thing in a bag or backpack playing back music or a podcast?  
>>> What about accidental screen presses?  I tried activating the screen 
>>> lock switch at the store, but that's only for locking the screen from 
>>> being rotated.  I thought the power button would freeze the controls, 
>>> but that shuts off everything and puts it to sleep.  I thought with an 
>>> iPad I could leave my ipod at home and just use the iPad to listen to 
>>> music.  Is this not possible in transit?  What about with a case?  I 
>>> think a dedicated hold button would be really nice, but I'm guessing 
>>> that would be asking too much as they'd have to redesign the hardware.  
>>> I'm really embarrassed to ask this stuff, as I'm applying at the Apple 
>>> store and this should be something I'd know.  TIA.
>>> 
>>> Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates)
>>> Pete Nalda
>>> http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda
>>> http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda
>>> 
>>> 
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Question about setting Itunes as the default internet playb ack device

[Mark BurningHawk Baxter]

Hi folks:

I'm trying to use Last.FM.  The downloadable client app is apparently  
not VO friendly at all.  However, I shouldn't need it; I set Itunes to  
be the default internet playback source, but it's not behaving that  
way when I go to last.fm.  What am I not getting here?

Than ks! :)

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twitterrific

[Courtney Curran]

Hi,
I was wondering what all of your thoughts on the Twitter client Twitterrific 
were? I didn't get it yet because I want to know what people think about it's 
accessibility features first.
Thanks,
Courtney

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Re: twitterrific

[Mark BurningHawk Baxter]

Twitterific works fine with VoiceOver.  I prefer Syrynx because you  
can filter out tweets from folks you want to see without necessarily  
unfollowing them.


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