an output question
I was just wondering if it's possible to get lilypond to print 2-up. So I get two A4 sheets on one A3 sheet? I know I can do it in acrobat, but I like to use acrobat as infrequently as possible, and I've actually never used ghostscript directly. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
clef question
Is it possible to get lilypond to use two clefs? I'm looking at some music wherein two clefs are used. I see the documentation on adding clefs as a markup, but then I don't get the key signature doubled, which I kinda need. Or is there a way to print my own key signature independently, and place it wherever I want to? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: clef question
Am 21.05.2008 um 17:03 schrieb Mats Bengtsson: James E. Bailey wrote: Is it possible to get lilypond to use two clefs? I'm looking at some music wherein two clefs are used. I see the documentation on adding clefs as a markup, but then I don't get the key signature doubled, which I kinda need. You lost me here! Can you please clarify what layout you want and exactly what place in the documentation you refer to. Sorry, I'm looking at the lsr and section 1.1.3.1 of the documentation simultaneously. What I want is a treble clef, followed by a key signature, followed by a bass clef, followed by a key signature. Or is there a way to print my own key signature independently, and place it wherever I want to? Does this question have anything to do with the clefs? No, but I try to look for alternate ways of getting the result I need, and if ultimately I need clef, key signature, clef, key signature, I'm perfectly fine with making all of that graphical and placing it manually. /Mats ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: can't beam in a quintuplet
Am 24.05.2008 um 23:26 schrieb Neil Puttock:
Hi Stefan,
2008/5/24 Stefan Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Dear lilypond-users,
I have another strange problem:
in the below quoted example, I can't have the notes in the
quintuplet under
one beam.
How can I solve the problem?
\version "2.11.43"
\relative {
\time 3/4 r2 \times 2/3 { r8 g b } |
\time 4/4
\times 4/5 { d16 [ b f'8. ] } r4 r2 }
Autobeaming in tuplets is a bit broken, unfortunately.
For this example, the simplest fix is to set the beat length for the
quintuplet; place this override before the \times block:
\once \set beatLength = #(ly:make-moment 1 20)
Regards,
Neil
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Wow thanks, I had this problem a while back, but never bothered to fix
it, I just left it as lilypond had it: it wasn't *too* important to me.
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Re: Music sizes
8.5x11 is US-ANSI letter size. booklet sized sheets that when folded will be 8.5x11 are tabloid (and are 11x17). Normal music scores (in the US) are 9x12, US ARCH B size. Booklet sized sheets that when folded will be 9x12 are US ARCH C size (and are 12x18) Am 28.05.2008 um 22:23 schrieb Garrett Fitzgerald: I'm currently working on some marches, and I was thinking about getting them printed as a booklet, as well as 8.5x11. What paper size do I call this? Also, what is the typical size for printing a full-page music sheet? How about conductors' scores? "Dammit, Jim, I'm a clarinetist, not a typesetter!" ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Music sizes
Sorry, I don't know anything about marching bands, but I imagine they would use normal concert (9x12) sized pages. (So it would be printed on 12x18 paper.) If you like I can send you my paper.scm file wherein I *think* I still have all those defined so it's a bit easier to get lilypond to print to that size. Or, it's fairly easy to see the examples in the file and add your own paper sizes Am 29.05.2008 um 06:15 schrieb Garrett Fitzgerald: Thanks, James, that's part of what I was looking for. The booklet size I was thinking of was marching band size -- do you know what that's called? On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 4:48 PM, James E. Bailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 8.5x11 is US-ANSI letter size. booklet sized sheets that when folded will be 8.5x11 are tabloid (and are 11x17). Normal music scores (in the US) are 9x12, US ARCH B size. Booklet sized sheets that when folded will be 9x12 are US ARCH C size (and are 12x18) Am 28.05.2008 um 22:23 schrieb Garrett Fitzgerald: I'm currently working on some marches, and I was thinking about getting them printed as a booklet, as well as 8.5x11. What paper size do I call this? Also, what is the typical size for printing a full-page music sheet? How about conductors' scores? "Dammit, Jim, I'm a clarinetist, not a typesetter!" ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
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two dynamics contexts and moving my headers
Hello,
I was having some difficulty yesterday, and I'm sure that it's only
because I'm in a rush and can't think well, but this just isn't
working for me.
1) I have a ChoirStaff and PianoStaff. I want dynamics above the
ChoirStaff and centered between the PianoStaff. No matter how hard I
try, it just doesn't work for me. I get errors of really strange
natures and the end effect is that I don't get what I was looking for.
I'm sure exactly what I need is somewhere on the LSR, but the LSR only
likes me if I know exactly what's there, otherwise, I don't really
find what I'm looking for. Help?
2) my composer and poet tags are in the wrong place! I should say,
when I add \center-align, it moves them to the right, even if the
markups are only one line? I'm guessing that it's centering the
markups to the page and not to itself. Can I get the markups to be
where they are normally, but to have two lines that are centered to
each other. I'm trying \markup {\center-align {"James E. Bailey"
\smaller "2008"}}. Nothing fancy.
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piano centered dynamics
I'm using the 2.11 branch of lilypond, and I notice that the forced- distance used in the piano centered dynamics isn't there (lilypond tells me, and there's no mention that I can see in the 2.11 documentation). It's in the 2.10 branch (lilypond doesn't tell me it's a typo and I see it in the 2.10 documentation). My question is this: is there a 2.11 equivalent of this forced-distance used in the snippet, or do I have to figure out how to use 2.10 for this? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
piano centered dynamics
I think the forced-distance might be a bug, everything else in the align-interface between the two branches (2.10 and 2.11) are the same, just the user-settable forced-distance is missing :( ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
center-aligning the poet
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Re: piano centered dynamics
Am 31.05.2008 um 11:55 schrieb Neil Puttock:
Hi James,
2008/5/31 James E. Bailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
I think the forced-distance might be a bug, everything else in the
align-interface between the two branches (2.10 and 2.11) are the
same, just
the user-settable forced-distance is missing :(
AFAIK, the forced-distance property was a hack to get cross-staff
beaming working in a PianoStaff. Since the spacing engine was
rewritten for 2.11, it's no longer required.
If you want fixed distance in 2.11 you'll need to use the
line-break-system-details property and its sub-property
alignment-offsets, which together will determine the relative
positions of staves and spanners. In the case of the centred dynamics
template there are four elements which need aligning, viz. the two
staves, the dynamics spanner and the pedal spanner, so an override
like the following should work:
\context {
\Score
\override NonMusicalPaperColumn #'line-break-system-details =
#'((alignment-offsets . (0 -6 -12 -18)))
}
A word of warning: since the dynamics spanner is inserted between the
staves, it's responsible for keeping them apart, so you must have
dynamics present in at least one bar per system for the forced spacing
to work.
You might like to check Trevor Bača's reply here:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2007-09/
msg00239.html),
which explains how it works in a bit more detail (and shows you how to
use the override on the fly).
Regards,
Neil
oh, well. Thanks. I guess it's better that overall it works better,
even if it means I have to learn something new.
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Re: piano centered dynamics
Am 31.05.2008 um 11:55 schrieb Neil Puttock:
Hi James,
2008/5/31 James E. Bailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
I think the forced-distance might be a bug, everything else in the
align-interface between the two branches (2.10 and 2.11) are the
same, just
the user-settable forced-distance is missing :(
AFAIK, the forced-distance property was a hack to get cross-staff
beaming working in a PianoStaff. Since the spacing engine was
rewritten for 2.11, it's no longer required.
If you want fixed distance in 2.11 you'll need to use the
line-break-system-details property and its sub-property
alignment-offsets, which together will determine the relative
positions of staves and spanners. In the case of the centred dynamics
template there are four elements which need aligning, viz. the two
staves, the dynamics spanner and the pedal spanner, so an override
like the following should work:
\context {
\Score
\override NonMusicalPaperColumn #'line-break-system-details =
#'((alignment-offsets . (0 -6 -12 -18)))
}
A word of warning: since the dynamics spanner is inserted between the
staves, it's responsible for keeping them apart, so you must have
dynamics present in at least one bar per system for the forced spacing
to work.
You might like to check Trevor Bača's reply here:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2007-09/
msg00239.html),
which explains how it works in a bit more detail (and shows you how to
use the override on the fly).
Regards,
Neil
Okay, I'm reading up on this, but before I even begin, is there a way
to work around needing dynamics in every system for this to work?
'Cause that's a deal-breaker right there for me.
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Re: two dynamics contexts and moving my headers
Am 31.05.2008 um 18:34 schrieb Valentin Villenave: 2008/5/31 James E. Bailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I was having some difficulty yesterday, and I'm sure that it's only because I'm in a rush and can't think well, but this just isn't working for me. Hi James, Perhaps we could help you more specifically if you posted some code... As for the dynamics thing, I'm sure you're already aware of http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=357 Cheers, Valentin Which snippet is that? lsr links don't usually work for me ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Context creation
Am 01.06.2008 um 21:09 schrieb Jesse Engle: Hello, I'm having trouble understanding context creation using \new and \context, *especially* when the context is given a name. The manual offers just one explicit example of how this is used, but I can't make sense of it. Could anyone here please explain in layman's terms? Thanks, Jesse Engle ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user How coincidental. I've been wondering myself about the difference between \new and \context. I kinda just use them interchangably and see if anything new happens. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
piano centered dynamics
I'm really tring here, there should be online classes to figure this
out, it just doesn't make sense to me. If anyone would be willing to
help, I've posted a sample of what the music looks like, and it can be
seen here.
Really, all I would like is to have the dynamics centered between the
two piano staves.
\version "2.11.47"
ChoirDynamics = {
s1\p
s4\< s2 s4\!
s1\f
s1*6
s1\f
s4\> s2 s4\!
s1\p
}
Words = \lyricmode {
ab4 bc cd de
\skip1
ij4 jk kl lm
mn no op pq
qr rs st tu
uv vw wx xy
yz ab bc cd
de ef fg gh
hi ij jk kl
lm mn no op
pq qr rs st
tu uv vw wx
}
SopranoMusic = \relative d'' {
\repeat unfold 4 {
d4 e g fis
\context Voice = SopranoOne { \voiceOne
r8 e gis a~ a fis d4
}
cis4 e fis g
}
}
SopranoWords = \lyricmode {
ef4 fg gh hi
}
AltoMusic = \relative a' {
\repeat unfold 4 {
a4 a b ~b8 d~
\context Voice = AltoOne {\voiceTwo
d4 cis b a
}
g g b b
}
}
AltoWords = \lyricmode {
ef fg gh hi
vw wx xz za
ef fg gh hi
}
TenorMusic = \relative d' {
\repeat unfold 4 {
d4 cis b d
\context Voice = TenorOne {\voiceOne
b d~ d8 e fis d
}
e4 d cis e
}
}
TenorWords = \lyricmode {
ef fg gh hi
vw wx xz za
ef fg gh hi
}
BassMusic = \relative d {
\repeat unfold 4 {
d4 a' g d
\context Voice = BassOne {\voiceTwo
e fis a2
}
a4 a a, a
}
}
BassWords = \lyricmode {
ef fg gh hi
vw wx xz za
ef fg gh hi
}
RH = \relative d'' {
\repeat unfold 4 {
4 <<{g fis r8 e gis a~ a fis d4}\\{b4~ b8
d~ d4 cis b a}>>
4
}
}
pianodynamics = {
s1*9
s1\p
s4\< s2 s4\!
s1\f
}
LH = \relative d' {
\repeat unfold 4 {
4
4
}
}
\score {
<<
\new ChoirStaff <<
\new Dynamics = dynamics \ChoirDynamics
\context Staff = women <<
\context Voice = "soprano" <<
\voiceOne \SopranoMusic>>
\context Voice = "alto" <<\voiceTwo
\AltoMusic>>
>>
\context Lyrics \Words
\context Staff = men <<\clef bass
\context Voice = "tenor" <<\voiceOne
\TenorMusic>>
\context Voice = "bass" <<\voiceTwo
\BassMusic>>
>>
\new Lyrics \with {alignAboveContext=women}
\lyricsto SopranoOne \SopranoWords
\new Lyrics \with {alignBelowContext=women}
\lyricsto AltoOne \AltoWords
\new Lyrics \with {alignAboveContext=men}
\lyricsto TenorOne \TenorWords
\new Lyrics \with {alignBelowContext=men}
\lyricsto BassOne \BassWords
>>
\new PianoStaff <<
\new Staff \RH
\new Dynamics = pianodynamics \pianodynamics
\new Staff <<\clef bass \LH>>
>>
>>
\layout {
\context {
\type "Engraver_group"
\name Dynamics
\alias Voice
\consists "Output_property_engraver"
\override VerticalAxisGroup #'minimum-Y-
extent = #'(-1 . 1)
\consists "Script_engraver"
\consists "Dynamic_engraver"
\consists "Text_engraver"
\override TextScript #'font-size = #2
\override TextScript #'font-shape = #'italic
\override DynamicText #'extra-offset = #'(0 .
2.5)
\override Hairpin #'extra-offset = #'(0 . 2.5)
\consists "Skip_event_swallow_translator"
\consists "Axis_group_engraver"
}
\context {\PianoStaff \accepts Dynamics}
\context {\ChoirStaff \accepts Dynamics}
}
}
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Re: Context creation
Am 02.06.2008 um 09:57 schrieb Valentin Villenave:
2008/6/1 James E. Bailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
How coincidental. I've been wondering myself about the difference
between
\new and \context. I kinda just use them interchangably and see if
anything
new happens.
The only difference AFAIK is that \context allows you to tap into an
existing context:
\new Staff = "coolStaff" " { (your music here) }
and then later:
\context Staff = "coolStaff" % look! the same context!
{ (your other music here) }
Cheers,
Valentin
But couldn't you do that with coolStaff = { (my music here) }
\context Staff = \coolStaff
?
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Re: Context creation
Am 02.06.2008 um 12:30 schrieb Mats Bengtsson:
James E. Bailey wrote:
Am 02.06.2008 um 09:57 schrieb Valentin Villenave:
2008/6/1 James E. Bailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
How coincidental. I've been wondering myself about the difference
between
\new and \context. I kinda just use them interchangably and see
if anything
new happens.
The only difference AFAIK is that \context allows you to tap into an
existing context:
\new Staff = "coolStaff" " { (your music here) }
and then later:
\context Staff = "coolStaff" % look! the same context!
{ (your other music here) }
Cheers,
Valentin
But couldn't you do that with coolStaff = { (my music here) }
\context Staff = \coolStaff
?
No, the point is that you can add contents to an existing context
"afterwards". A classical
example is shown in the first SATB template in
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond-learning/Vocal-ensembles#Vocal-ensembles
where you first create an empty Lyrics context and call in sopranos,
in order to place it above the
staff and then fill it with its contents some lines later in the
\score block, in order to be able to
use \lyricsto. (In this particular example, there's now an
alternative solution using aligned contexts,
but before that property was introduced, the only possibility was to
use \context = "alreadydefinedcontext").
Also, your code isn't syntactically correct. Did you mean
\context Staff \coolStaff ?
/Mats
/Mats
Wait, I think I just larned something. If I understand \context is for
referring to a context; whereas \new is for creating the context. So,
if I understand correctly from the manual:
\new Lyrics = sopranos { s1 }
is the same as
\new Lyrics \lyricsto sopranos \sopWords
Or did I totally miss that?
Oh, and that's why it has to have a name? So it can be referred back
to later on.
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Re: piano centered dynamics
Am 02.06.2008 um 18:29 schrieb Neil Puttock: 2008/6/2 Valentin Villenave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Try: \override VerticalAxisGroup #'minimum-Y-extent = #'(0 . 3) instead of (-1 . 1 ) It's ugly, but it (kind of) works. ...or use the template for 2.11, which is slightly different; it doesn't need the hackish extra-offset overrides. Regards, Neil Oooh, where does one find this elusive piano centered dynamics template for 2.11? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: piano centered dynamics
Am 02.06.2008 um 22:04 schrieb Graham Percival: On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 21:36:35 +0200 "James E. Bailey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Am 02.06.2008 um 18:29 schrieb Neil Puttock: ...or use the template for 2.11, which is slightly different; it doesn't need the hackish extra-offset overrides. Oooh, where does one find this elusive piano centered dynamics template for 2.11? You look at the 2.11 docs, click on Snippet List (SL), then click on Templates. How is that hard to find? Cheers, - Graham Ah, thanks. I've never used those before. I'll add it to my mental list. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: piano centered dynamics
Am 04.06.2008 um 13:42 schrieb Jonathan Kulp: Well, it's not very elegant but it works o.k. I just override the dynamics positioning each time I need it. I just experimented to find the right values. To make life easier I define the override as a variable: nuj = \once \override DynamicText #'extra-offset = #'(+1.0 . -0.0) Then I just go through and put \nuj before each dynamic marking that needs a nudge to the right. If someone can make a fix that will let Lilypond avoid the collisions in the first place that'd be amazing. What I observe is that the dynamics are placed just fine as long as the notes in the music staves have some kind of accidental in front of them. Otherwise they're positioned pretty close to the barline and the dynamics below end up colliding with a barline. Best, Jon Valentin Villenave wrote: 2008/6/4 Jonathan Kulp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Well, since no one is going to answer this I guess I'll answer it myself: RTFM (the Learning Manual, that is) :D I have encountered similar problems with dynamics colliding with cross-staff barlines, but I never really found a way to get rid of this annoyance. My best (and only) guess would be to use the classic workaround used for lyrics: http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=356 i.e. adding the barline engraver to the dynamics context. But in fact, it didn't work great so far. Please try it and tell us if you're luckier than me :-) Cheers, Valentin -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user That's beautiful. Simply beautiful ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
markup question
I'm trying some things and I expected a flat symbol on the bottom line
but got nothing.
{
\override Staff.Clef #'stencil = #ly:text-interface::print
\override Staff.Clef #'text = \markup \musicglyph #"clefs.C"
\override Staff.KeySignature #'stencil = #ly:text-interface::print
\override Staff.KeySignature #'text = \markup \musicglyph
#"accidentals.flat"
s1
}
Any ideas as to why?
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Oh, thanks, I actually solved my problem.
\override Staff.Clef #'stencil = #ly:text-
interface::print
\override Staff.Clef #'text = \markup {
\lower #0.0 {\musicglyph
#"clefs.C"}
\raise #3.0 {\flat}
\raise #1.0 {\flat}
\raise #2.5 {\flat}
\hspace #0.1
\raise #2.0 {\musicglyph #"clefs.C"}
\raise #1.25 {\rotate #180.0 \semiflat}
\lower #0.25 {\rotate #180.0 \semiflat}
\raise #1.75 {\rotate #180.0 \semiflat}
\hspace #0.1
}
That was what it finally looked like. I had to combine the two to get
it all together, but I got it. ^_^
Am 05.06.2008 um 11:37 schrieb Mats Bengtsson:
As long as you don't have any \key command in your code, no key
signature at all will be
typeset. Just add a
\key c \major
(or whatever signature) to get the desired symbol.
I hope you know about the built-in capabilities in LilyPond to
handle non-standard
key signatures. As long as you only want to have normal flat and
sharp symbols
in your custom key signature, there should be no need to typeset it
manually using markups.
/Mats
James E. Bailey wrote:
I'm trying some things and I expected a flat symbol on the bottom
line but got nothing.
{
\override Staff.Clef #'stencil = #ly:text-interface::print
\override Staff.Clef #'text = \markup \musicglyph #"clefs.C"
\override Staff.KeySignature #'stencil = #ly:text-interface::print
\override Staff.KeySignature #'text = \markup \musicglyph
#"accidentals.flat"
s1
}
Any ideas as to why?
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Re: markup question
Am 06.06.2008 um 00:25 schrieb Kieren MacMillan:
Hi James,
Oh, thanks, I actually solved my problem.
When Mats said
I hope you know about the built-in capabilities in LilyPond to
handle non-standard
key signatures. As long as you only want to have normal flat and
sharp symbols
in your custom key signature, there should be no need to typeset
it manually using markups.
I believe he was pointing you towards a solution more like
{
\set Staff.printKeyCancellation = ##f
\once \override Staff.KeySignature #'X-extent = #'(0 . 6)
\set Staff.keySignature = #'(((0 . 5) . -1/2) ((0 . 2) . -1/2)
((0 . 6) . -1/2))
\clef mezzosoprano
\once \override Staff.TimeSignature #'X-extent = #'(-4 . -0.5)
\grace { s1 }
\once \override Staff.Clef #'full-size-change = ##t
\clef tenor
\once \override Staff.KeySignature #'rotation = #'(180 0 -.43)
\set Staff.keySignature = #'(((0 . 1) . -1/4) ((0 . 4) . -1/4)
((0 . 0) . -1/4))
s1
}
While it's a few more lines of code than yours, it is "more
correct", musically speaking.
What I mean by that is, my code really *has* changed the key
signature -- so that, for example, accidentals will work "as
expected", you won't have problems with transposition, the spacing
of the key signature elements are consistent, etc. -- whereas your
code simply makes the key signature *look* like it's been changed.
Hope this helps!
Kieren.
[p.s. For the record, I didn't take the time to make sure that the
second key signature change was "correct" -- if you adopt this
option, you'll have to make sure that the scale tones are actually
adjusted according to your wishes...]
Thanks, I still haven't figured out x-extents and y-extents. I'll get
there eventually. I actually tried that way, but got stuck on moving
everything over, so I just gave up.
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Am 06.06.2008 um 00:25 schrieb Kieren MacMillan:
Hi James,
Oh, thanks, I actually solved my problem.
When Mats said
I hope you know about the built-in capabilities in LilyPond to
handle non-standard
key signatures. As long as you only want to have normal flat and
sharp symbols
in your custom key signature, there should be no need to typeset
it manually using markups.
I believe he was pointing you towards a solution more like
{
\set Staff.printKeyCancellation = ##f
\once \override Staff.KeySignature #'X-extent = #'(0 . 6)
\set Staff.keySignature = #'(((0 . 5) . -1/2) ((0 . 2) . -1/2)
((0 . 6) . -1/2))
\clef mezzosoprano
\once \override Staff.TimeSignature #'X-extent = #'(-4 . -0.5)
\grace { s1 }
\once \override Staff.Clef #'full-size-change = ##t
\clef tenor
\once \override Staff.KeySignature #'rotation = #'(180 0 -.43)
\set Staff.keySignature = #'(((0 . 1) . -1/4) ((0 . 4) . -1/4)
((0 . 0) . -1/4))
s1
}
While it's a few more lines of code than yours, it is "more
correct", musically speaking.
What I mean by that is, my code really *has* changed the key
signature -- so that, for example, accidentals will work "as
expected", you won't have problems with transposition, the spacing
of the key signature elements are consistent, etc. -- whereas your
code simply makes the key signature *look* like it's been changed.
Hope this helps!
Kieren.
[p.s. For the record, I didn't take the time to make sure that the
second key signature change was "correct" -- if you adopt this
option, you'll have to make sure that the scale tones are actually
adjusted according to your wishes...]
Well, to be honest, I was actually trying to make the clef the two
clefs spaced far apart enough that the key signature could be the two
key signatures spaced far apart enough that the second clef would fit
between them. So close, but at least now I have a little more
information about x-extent
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Re: incorrect beams in 16th quintuplet
You might take a look at
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2008-05/msg00481.html
Am 09.06.2008 um 04:24 schrieb luis jure:
hello list,
sorry, i guess this must be in the docs somewhere, perhaps it has been
discussed in the list before, but i can't really find a solution...
when writing irregular 16th-note quintuplets (one 8th-note and three
16ths) i get incorrect beaming groups, depending where the 8th note is
placed
the first two tuplets (bar 1) are correct, but their mirrors (bar 2)
have their beams wrong (see attached image). here's the very simple
code:
\version "2.11.42"
\relative c'
{
\times 4/5 { f8 f16 f16 f16 } r4
\times 4/5 { f16 f8 f16 f16 } r4
\times 4/5 { f16 f16 f8 f16 } r4
\times 4/5 { f16 f16 f16 f8 } r4
}
\layout{ragged-right=##t}
thanks,
lj
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change default horizontal spacing
I'm wondering about how I can change the default horizontal spacing,
at least for dynamics, so that rather than adjust them up/down,
lilypond adjusts the measure width.here was my generic input file:
\header{ title = "A scale in LilyPond"}
\relative {\time 3/4 c\ppp d\pp e\p f\mp g\mf a\f b c\ff d\fff }
\version "2.11.42"
While I'm not particularly fond of how wide the spacing in the earlier
example is, I prefer it to the spacing in the later example. So, I'm
starting to wonder about how I can get somwhere in between.
sample file from version 2.11.44
sample file from version 2.11.48
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Re: how do I control the size of the musical fonts?
Am 12.06.2008 um 00:16 schrieb Victor Eijkhout:
Meaning, not lyrics, but the notes. Suppose I want to shrink a whole
score by a few percent so that it takes one page less?
Or in piano + solo instrument, it's customary to print the solo
slightly smaller in the score. How do I do that?
Victor.
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You probably want
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond/Setting-the-staff-size#Setting-the-staff-size
#(set-global-staff-size 12)
or more likely, \new staff \with {fontSize = #-2} which is very
cleverly hidden in the section on Ossia Staves http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond/Ossia-staves#Ossia-staves
or \set fontSize = #-2, which is hidden away at
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond/Changing-context-default-settings#Changing-context-default-settings
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Re: how do I control the size of the musical fonts?
you need a space before the bracket. scheme thinks that the number is 2}
Am 12.06.2008 um 15:37 schrieb Victor Eijkhout:
I misspoke. I only had a \version of 2.10 in the input. I actually
ahve 2.11
Victors-G5:Queen VicDiesel$ lilypond queen-score.ly
GNU LilyPond 2.11.39
Processing `queen-score.ly'
Parsing...
queen-score-separate.ly:29:30: error: GUILE signaled an error for
the expression beginning here
\new Staff \with {fontSize = #
-2} = "Alto" {
Unbound variable: -2}
On Jun 11, 2008, at 5:33 PM, James E. Bailey wrote:
or more likely, \new staff \with {fontSize = #-2}
Does that rely on 2.11? I'm still on 2.10.
Parsing...
queen-score-separate.ly:29:30: error: GUILE signaled an error for
the expression beginning here
\new Staff \with {fontSize = #
-2} = "Alto" {
Unbound variable: -2}
Victor.
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Re: Figured bass stacking direction default
Am 13.06.2008 um 18:15 schrieb Carl D. Sorensen: My question: Should the default value of stacking-dir result in <4 6> producing 6 4 Dear God, please no. When you think of a chord, you name it in that order, c-e-g. When you think of a figured bass 8 5 3 you name it as you read it, 8-5-3. I learned them as naming the highest degree from the bass first, and naming them the other way would be counter-intuitive. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Inspirational Headwords for Chords section of manual
Am 13.06.2008 um 18:05 schrieb Carl D. Sorensen: Dear LilyPond users, I'm rewriting the section on chords for the GDP. I'm getting close to releasing it to -user for your review, but before I do, I need some music examples. 1) I'd like an "Inspirational Headword" for the section on chords. This would be some real music that uses chord names. It should show how LilyPond produces excellent output by means of a fragment of an actual composition. Anybody have one they could share? 2) I'm looking for an inspirational headword for figured bass. This would be a section of actual music notated with figured bass. Anybody got one they could share? Carl D. Sorensen Associate Professor Department of Mechanical Engineering Brigham Young University Provo, UT 84602 801-422-6397 Fax 801-422-0516 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user I don't really know what an "inspirational headword" is, but there are tons of actual music notated with figured bass on mutopia. And probably some with chord names too. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Syntax explanations
Am 13.06.2008 um 23:17 schrieb Graham Percival: On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 22:46:57 +0200 Reinhold Kainhofer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Donnerstag, 12. Juni 2008 schrieb Graham Percival: On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 06:22:44 -0600 "Carl D. Sorensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: A figured bass entry [TODO: enter correct term...] is of the form < //number//modifier(s) ... >duration I'm not wild about discussing the standard chord notation < ... >duration but the below table would be totally ok. Ah, thanks for pointing out that figured bass figures actually use the chord notation! To me, it was simply the syntax for figured bass and never occured to me that it was connected to chord syntax in any way. This *should* be clear in the GDP docs, but I'm not certain if it was added or not. Could you check, and tell Carl if it's not added? Cheers, - Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user FWIW, I just started using figuredbassmode a couple of weeks ago, so it was the first time I looked at that documentation, and it was clear to me that it was chord notation. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: an innocent's query :)
Am 14.06.2008 um 10:21 schrieb Bill Mooney: Greetings All, I am a newcomer to the list, and to Lilypond. Notwithstanding this I am finding LP very satisfying to use and am currently setting some hand-notation music for a friend - from which activity rises my query. Would it be worthwhile to consider changing the way LP 'reads' its input files to allow the use of UpperCase letters for the notes? It seems to me, in my innocence, that this would allow, amongst other things, a change to the way sharps/flats etc are dealt with ( eg Aa = A-sharp, aA = A-flat, and other one-key-strokes for quarter-tones, etc, etc... ), and might lead to dropping the need for the various 'language' include files. It would also make global replacements of one particular note very easy (if perhaps in notating handwritten score by someone who is not very accurate in their note placement! ). Regards Bill ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user Technically, you could do this yourself. Granted, it would still involve an \include file, but I just made some minor modifications to the deutsch.ly file and it worked perfectly mooney.ly Description: Binary data mooney.ly Description: Binary data ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
stopTrillSpan
I'm sure there is, and I just can't think my way around it, but I'm
having a problem with a trillspan that starts in a one-voice context
and ends in a two-voice context.
Like this:
\relative c'{
\pitchedTrill 1\startTrillSpan a |
<<\relative g'{g1\stopTrillSpan}\\\relative c'{ c2 b}>>
}
Right now, my workaround is to use:
\relative c'{
\pitchedTrill 1*3/4\startTrillSpan a s4\stopTrillSpan |
<<\relative g'{g1}\\\relative c'{ c2 b}>>
}
But I'm wondering if there's a way to do without the spacer notes.
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Re: stopTrillSpan
Am 15.06.2008 um 18:57 schrieb Kieren MacMillan:
Hi James,
I'm wondering if there's a way to do without the spacer notes.
See attached modifications.
Be sure to read the docs, especially the section on "relative mode"
and "explicitly instantiating voices" (or whatever they're called
now).
Hope this helps!
Kieren.
%
\version "2.11.47"
original = \relative c'
{
\pitchedTrill 1\startTrillSpan a |
<<
\relative g' { g1\stopTrillSpan }
\\
\relative c' { c2 b } >>
}
kierenA = \relative c'
{
\pitchedTrill 1\startTrillSpan a |
<<
{ \voiceOne \relative g' { g1\stopTrillSpan } }
\new Voice { \voiceTwo \relative c' { c2 b } }
>> \oneVoice
}
kierenB = \relative c'
{
\pitchedTrill 1\startTrillSpan a |
<<
{ \voiceOne g'1\stopTrillSpan }
\new Voice { \voiceTwo c,2 b }
>> \oneVoice
}
\score { \original }
\score { \kierenA }
\score { \kierenB }
%%
Well that just makes too much sense for its own good.
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Re: What's wrong with this syntax?
the tilde should be before the \melisma Am 16.06.2008 um 00:21 schrieb Patrick Horgan: \set Staff.melismaBusyProperties = #'(melismaBusy) a4 bes2 a4 bes1 \melisma ~ bes ~ bes ~ \melismaEnd bes Lilypond complains about the ~ after the \melisma, but I want the tie there. Help!!! Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
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Re: syntax question
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond/Text-marks#Text-marks
Printing marks on every staff
Although text marks are normally only printed above the topmost staff,
they may also be printed on every staff.
{
\new Score \with {
\remove "Mark_engraver"
}
<<
\new Staff \with {
\consists "Mark_engraver"
}
{ c''1 \mark "molto" c'' }
\new Staff \with {
\consists "Mark_engraver"
}
{ c'1 \mark "molto" c' }
>>
}
That's the only place I've ever seen a Score. But it's a context, I'll
read up on it.
Am 19.06.2008 um 13:43 schrieb Mats Bengtsson:
A \score{...} block is a syntactical construct, which internally
creates a Score context (among others).
It is also possible to explicitly instantiate a Score context, but I
don't really see the added value of
doing it (even though I seem to recall that there was some specific
reason to introduce this possibility).
/Mats
James E. Bailey wrote:
I don't quite understand what the difference between score and
Score are. I'm sure this is discussed in some documentation
somewhere, but I just don't know where to look. Can someone point
me in the right direction?
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fingering slur
I'm trying the fingerings for the first time, and I'm getting it, but I don't know if there's a way to get a little slur over an articulation. I see how to use the \finger in a markup, but I'm wondering specifically about the little slur. Is there an easy way to get that? <> http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/8596641f3c.jpg ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
strange midi error
I'm transcribing some chopin, and I get a very strange midi error, Going back in time. Usually I don't worry about these kinds of things, but this one wasn't translated, and the MIDI sounds like it's played by a rather bad pianist. GNU LilyPond 2.11.49 »Valse in cis moll.ly« wird verarbeitet Analysieren... Interpretation der Musik...[8][16][24][32][40][48][56][64][72][80][88][96][104][112][120][128][136][144][152][160][168][176][184][192] Vorverarbeitung der grafischen Elemente... Valse in cis moll.ly:424:24: Warnung: zu viele kollidierende Notenspalten werden ignoriert c'4\) Valse in cis moll.ly:423:24: Warnung: zu viele kollidierende Notenspalten werden ignoriert ges4^\( es, e | %88 Valse in cis moll.ly:422:40: Warnung: zu viele kollidierende Notenspalten werden ignoriert \vone \stemDown ges~| %87 Valse in cis moll.ly:384:24: Warnung: zu viele kollidierende Notenspalten werden ignoriert ges4^\( es,_( e)| %72 Valse in cis moll.ly:383:34: Warnung: zu viele kollidierende Notenspalten werden ignoriert \stemDown ges4~ | %71 Valse in cis moll.ly:360:24: Warnung: zu viele kollidierende Notenspalten werden ignoriert b'\) Valse in cis moll.ly:359:24: Warnung: zu viele kollidierende Notenspalten werden ignoriert f4^\( des,_( d) | %68 Valse in cis moll.ly:358:34: Warnung: zu viele kollidierende Notenspalten werden ignoriert \stemDown f4~ | %67 Interpretation der Musik... MIDI-Ausgabe nach »Valse in cis moll.midi«... Programmierfehler: Going back in MIDI time. Fortsetzung, die Daumen drücken Programmierfehler: Going back in MIDI time. Fortsetzung, die Daumen drücken Programmierfehler: Going back in MIDI time. Fortsetzung, die Daumen drücken Programmierfehler: Going back in MIDI time. Fortsetzung, die Daumen drücken Ideale Seitenanzahl wird gefunden... Musik wird auf 5 oder 6 Seiten angepasst... Systeme erstellen... Layout nach »Valse in cis moll.ps« ausgeben... Konvertierung nach »./Valse in cis moll.pdf«... Valse in cis moll.ly Description: Binary data Valse in cis moll.midi Description: MIDI audio ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
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tweaks
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page margin help
So, uh, I've got music running literally off the bottom of the page,
colliding with the footer and the tagline and the only modification
I've made to the paper is \paper {between-system-padding = #0.1} Is
there something I should change that I don't know about?
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beams
When it rains, it pours, This is the most minimal example I could
extract. The output has the cross staff beams horribly, horribly
wrong. I've never seen this kind of problem before, and unlike most of
my problems, I really can't just ignore this one.
\include "deutsch.ly"
#(ly:set-option 'point-and-click #f)
vone = {\voiceOne \slurUp \tieUp \phrasingSlurUp}
vtwo = {\voiceTwo \slurDown \tieDown \phrasingSlurDown}
vnull = {\oneVoice \slurNeutral \tieNeutral \phrasingSlurDown}
csu = {\change Staff = RH}
csd = {\change Staff = LH}
global = {\time 6/8 \key es \major \override Fingering #'avoid-slur =
#'inside }
RH = \relative b' {
<<
\relative as'' {
\vnull s8 r8 r16 \( 8 s4 | %123
s4 r16 4~ 16 \) |
%124
} \\ \relative g''' {
\vtwo
g8 s4 s8 r16 g,, b es | %123
g16 es b g \csd \vnull es_( b es, b'-1 es,-2 b es-1 b) |
%124
}
>>
\vone 4\( s8 s4 r16| %125
4~ 16 4\) es,16~ g~| %126
}
LH = \relative es{ \clef bass
es,16( b' es b es b' es, b' es) r b,8( | %123
es8) r r s4. | %124
<<
\relative es, {
\vnull es16 b' es \csu g' b es g es b g \csd \vnull es\( b
| %125
es,16 b'-1 es, b es-1 b es, b'-5 es g\) r8
} \\ \relative b ,{
s4 \vnull b8( es) r s8 | %125
s2.
}
>>
}
\score {
\new PianoStaff
<<
\new Staff = "RH" <<\global \RH>>
\new Staff = "LH" <<\global \LH>>
>>
}
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Re: beams
Am 27.06.2008 um 22:55 schrieb Kieren MacMillan:
Hi James,
The output has the cross staff beams horribly, horribly wrong.
I'm not sure exactly what you're looking for, but maybe the
following modified code will get you going in the right direction:
Well, I had a guess, and it came up right.
\include "deutsch.ly"
RHright = \relative {\key es \major \time 6/8\voiceTwo \stemDown g''16
es b g \change Staff = "LH" \stemUp es b es, b'-1 es,-2 b es-1 b }
RHwrong = \relative {\key es \major \time 6/8\voiceTwo \stemDown g''16
es b g \change Staff = "LH" \stemUp es( b es, b'-1 es,-2 b es-1 b) }
LH = {\key es \major \time 6/8 \clef bass s2.}
\score {
\new PianoStaff <<
\new Staff \RHright
\new Staff = "LH" \LH
>>
}
\score {
\new PianoStaff <<
\new Staff \RHwrong
\new Staff = "LH" \LH
>>
}
The RHright gets the beam correct, but I don't have the slur. the
wrong one gets the slur but the beam is wrong. Is there some better
way to do this?
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Re: where is "score wizard"? searcheable manual unresponsive.
Am 30.06.2008 um 02:40 schrieb plasmacarwash: Hi People Tonite at approx. 8:30 PM and 8:35PM EST USA. I tried twice to search the online manual but got a "The server at lsr.dsi.unimi.it is taking too long to respond" firefox message. :teeth: Is there a sticky somewhere about this? Sincerely, Jay -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/where-is-%22score-wizard%22--searcheable-manual-unresponsive.-tp18187025p18187025.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user In lilypond proper, there is no "score wizard", lilypondtool probably has something like that. Maybe not. I wouldn't know. If the lsr is slow to search, you can always open the "One Big Page" version of the documentation and just do a search in your web browser. That way, you can even search the 2.11 documentation as well. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Using LilyPond with Arabic music
Am 30.06.2008 um 14:50 schrieb josephHarfouch: http://www.nabble.com/file/p18194950/arabic.tex arabic.tex http://www.nabble.com/file/p18194950/arabic.pdf arabic.pdf http://www.nabble.com/file/p18194950/arabic.ly arabic.ly Hello, Some time ago, I put a question on the forum regarding using Arabic music with LilyPond, and I got some very helpful advice regarding the notating of half-flats and half-sharps. I have created an "arabic.ly" file based on that advice, and to add arabic maqams (modes or scales).I also created documentation of how to use LilyPond with Arabic music which I'm attaching and I would like to share with others, in the hope of encouraging the use of LilyPond with Arabic music. I would be happy to get feedback to improve this documentation, and very happy to share it with others, for example if you think it is useful to make "arabic.ly" part of your product in the future, and/or to put the attached documentation on your web site, or as an appendix to your documentation etc. Best Regards Joseph Harfouch -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Using-LilyPond-with-Arabic-music-tp18194950p18194950.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user Wow, that's amazing. I think I need things like this to remind me why free software (especially lilypond) is a good thing. And try as I might, I couldn't get lilypond to have problems with the arabic characters. I tried two different input methods, and they still came okay. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: How do you move a couple of words down a bit?
Am 01.07.2008 um 02:40 schrieb Frederick Dennis: Dear All, in version 2.10.33, how do you move lyrics down a bit? Just two words. Thank you for your attention. I have looked at the docs. Adding a blank lyricline would move them down too much. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.10/Documentation/user/lilypond/Vertical-spacing-inside-a-system#Vertical-spacing-inside-a-system Discusses moving objects vertically within a system. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lilypond working on Mac OS X 10.5, thanks
Am 02.07.2008 um 22:50 schrieb Carl D. Sorensen: On 7/2/08 2:41 PM, "Eric Knapp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It works! I have a modified applescript that will open the hyperlink into TextMate. The TextMate command line utility only has the ability to go to a specified line in the file but that's OK with me. Would there be a place where we could document this and put these scripts up? I would clean up the TextMate version and document it for the community. I would also add attribution to Christopher. -Eric This kind of goes against the LilyPond philosophy of one GUB for all possible platforms, so I'm not sure how it might be implemented in the standard LilyPond website/distribution. Perhaps Han-Wen could chime in here. In the meantime, it is certain that you could start a git repo at repo.or.cz, and the repo could contain the files ready for installation. Then users could directly download from there. I'm sure there are more elegant ways to handle the distribution of this stuff, but I'm not sure what they are. I've copied this email to - devel, because that's where the core developers hang out. Carl ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user It's the first I've heard of such a thing, and it might persuade me to go back to using TeXShop for editing instead of nano. I use the distributed PPC binary, so I kinda want to keep that, and right now, I just turn point-and-click off in every file (it's kind of annoying to accidentally click something in a score and then have to force-quit the lilypad. But, from a standardization point of view, why not just scrap the lilypad on OSX altogether? None of the other platforms have a built-in editor, it's confusing to have a broken editor on the macintosh, and it would probably be easier to just leave that bit out (of the 10.5 branch) at least. Thats my 0.2¢ ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
making lyrics italic
I'm trying to make lyrics italicised, I can see that the text- interface is a part of the lyrictext, I just don't know how to access teh text markup commands so I can italic. Can anyone help? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Error message using 2.11.50-1
Am 03.07.2008 um 04:17 schrieb Jonathan Kulp: Hi everyone, I just installed the latest build and when I ran the file I'm working on, it came back with this error, which I think has to do with a macro included near the top of the document. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Desktop$ tarantella running tarantella file now... GNU LilyPond 2.11.50 Processing `tarantella.ly' Parsing... Interpreting music... /usr/local/lilypond/usr/share/lilypond/current/ scm/lily-library.scm:135:5: In procedure format-movement-markup in expression (process-procedure book paper ...): /usr/local/lilypond/usr/share/lilypond/current/scm/lily-library.scm: 135:5: Wrong number of arguments to #markup (dur count context)> Usually when I get these error messages, it's because I have an unbalanced < or " ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
strange lyric problem
I've just got an error on something that I've used before and after (in the same file!) and I don't understand it GNU LilyPond 2.11.49 »Scene_1.2.ly« wird verarbeitet Analysieren... Scene_1.2.ly:170:35: Fehler: keine gültige Dauer: 47 mei4. -- de!8 \skip4| %47 Scene_1.2.ly:173:27: Fehler: keine gültige Dauer: 56 nah’?4. \skip4. | %56 I use bar checks and measure number checks in every measure, and for the first time in lyricmode, it's processing the % as a word. the lyrics section of the manual doesn't mention anything about % A word in Lyrics mode begins with: an alphabetic character, _, ?, !, :, ', the control characters ^A through ^F, ^Q through ^W, ^Y, ^^, any 8-bit character with ASCII code over 127, or a two- character combination of a backslash followed by one of `, ', ", or ^. and the same file doesn't have errors for measure %1 through %46, %48 through %55 and %57 to the end in any of the 6 other parts I've done so far. Of course I can just leave out the checks for these two measures, but oddly, the % shows up as a word in the score. Should I just ignore it, or will this cause problems later on? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: strange lyric problem
Am 03.07.2008 um 14:28 schrieb Kieren MacMillan: Hi James, it's processing the % as a word. Are you on MacOS? Regardless, it might be a carriage-return/line-feed issue (like the one I fight with in the MacOS Lilypond editor) -- see what happens if you surround the offending code/line with blank lines. Good luck! Kieren. Yes I am on MacOS. Great, another OSX problem. FWIW, I use nano as my editor. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: strange lyric problem
Am 03.07.2008 um 14:28 schrieb Kieren MacMillan: Hi James, it's processing the % as a word. Are you on MacOS? Regardless, it might be a carriage-return/line-feed issue (like the one I fight with in the MacOS Lilypond editor) -- see what happens if you surround the offending code/line with blank lines. Good luck! Kieren. Very strange, indeed. I took out the offending checks, went on with my typesetting, and just now added them in. Now, no problems. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: beams
Am 28.06.2008 um 19:14 schrieb Andrew Hawryluk:
It looks like a bug to me. Here's a reduced snippet for the bug
tracker:
% Slur and fingering interfere with cross-staff beaming.
% If either the fingering or the slur are removed, the
% correct beaming is used.
\version "2.11.49"
\new PianoStaff <<
\new Staff \relative {
\time 6/8 g''16 e c g \change Staff = "LH" \voiceOne e( c
e, c'-1 e, c e c)
}
\new Staff = "LH" {
\time 6/8 \clef bass s2.
}
So is this a bug? or is there some way around this?
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Re: beams
Am 03.07.2008 um 15:47 schrieb Kieren MacMillan: Hi James, So is this a bug? Looks like it... or is there some way around this? Did my solution (posted earlier) not work for you? Kieren. not with the cross-staff slur ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Bus error in 2.11.50 on OS X
Am 06.07.2008 um 19:13 schrieb Jonathan Kulp: After reading this post I downloaded 2.11.50 and installed on my eMac G4 running OSX 10.4 and ran a lilypond file without errors. Is it only an issue on Intel macs or on Leopard, perhaps? Jon Mark Pim wrote: Thanks, that seems to have solved it :) Mark 2008/7/6 Mark Pim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: To solve a spacing problem I wanted to update to 2.11.50 (which I realise is the development release but I understand you're quite close to a 2.12 release?), anyways every file now fails with a bus error, even the standard test file included with the Mac lilypond release. This is a known issue. Please go to http://download.linuxaudio.org/lilypond/binaries/ and download the previous version 2.11.49, either for "darwin-ppc" or "darwin-x86" depending on your machine. Hope this helps! Cheers, Valentin 2.11.50 and 2.11.51 work fine on my intel imac. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: \repeat with upbeat (partial) and alternatives
Am 07.07.2008 um 00:44 schrieb Eluze Weehaeli: 2008/7/1, Neil Puttock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I've approved the snippet using the first example (http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?u=1&id=490). This works perfectly. Using http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/ you can search - e.g. for upbeat or repeat - the snippet repository but you will not find this snippet Using Browse you can find it after scrolling through several pages... What's the problem here? Thanks Eluze I've wondered this for a long time. I've stopped using the lsr because of it. There are people here, kieren, for example who can find anything on the lsr. I can't. I search the lsr by asking here and waiting until someone posts a link. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: defining custom note heads
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 10:20 AM, v!ictor [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello Brian, There are two things you need to do to create arbitrary noteheads from within lilypond: 1. change the NoteHead stencil to the text interface: \once \override NoteHead #'stencil = #ly:text-interface::print 2. define the text attribute of the NoteHead. you can put any markup command you want. The easiest thing to do is to simply call a musicglyph, as in the example below. With musicglyph you can use any of the feta font glyphs: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond/The-Feta-font#The-Feta-font But you can also draw lines, circles, etc. basically anything you can do in a markup. See http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond/Text-markup-commands#Text-markup-commands Am 07.07.2008 um 18:04 schrieb Eric Knapp: Hello, I'm trying to get the second option below to work. This is one where you use markup commands to create the notehead. I can't get the syntax right, could you also provide an example of that? Thanks, -Eric They work in tandem, not independantly, first, you change the NoteHead stencil to the text interface, (see previous code), then you define the musicglyph that you want to use as a notehead. See http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=475 (and just as I finish complaining that I can never find anything on the lsr…)___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: defining custom note heads
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 12:09 PM, James E. Bailey
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 10:20 AM, v!ictor [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Hello Brian,
There are two things you need to do to create arbitrary noteheads
from
within lilypond:
1. change the NoteHead stencil to the text interface:
\once \override NoteHead #'stencil = #ly:text-interface::print
2. define the text attribute of the NoteHead. you can put any markup
command you want. The easiest thing to do is to simply call a
musicglyph, as in the example below. With musicglyph you can use any
of the feta font glyphs:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond/The-Feta-font#The-Feta-font
But you can also draw lines, circles, etc. basically anything you can
do in a markup. See
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond/Text-markup-commands#Text-markup-commands
Am 07.07.2008 um 18:04 schrieb Eric Knapp:
Hello,
I'm trying to get the second option below to work. This is one where
you use markup commands to create the notehead. I can't get the
syntax
right, could you also provide an example of that?
Thanks,
-Eric
They work in tandem, not independantly, first, you change the
NoteHead
stencil to the text interface, (see previous code), then you define
the
musicglyph that you want to use as a notehead.
See http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=475
(and just as I finish complaining that I can never find anything on
the
lsr…)
Am 07.07.2008 um 19:46 schrieb Eric Knapp:
I have it working when you define glyphs, like this:
headCircle = {\once \override NoteHead #'stencil = #ly:text-
interface::print
\once \override NoteHead #'text = #(markup #:musicglyph
"scripts.flageolet" ) }
What I can't get to work is what Victor mentioned but didn't give and
example for. Here's what he said,
"But you can also draw lines, circles, etc. basically anything you can
do in a markup. See
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond/Text-markup-commands#Text-markup-commands
"
I can't figure out the exact syntax for when you use markup and not a
glyph. I would love an example like the one above with markup.
Thanks,
-Eric
You have it working correctly. when you have #(markup #: whatever
markup) that's just the scheme way of calling a markup.
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Re: different rhythmic units for tuplet's numerator and denominator
Am 07.07.2008 um 22:14 schrieb Uri Sala:
It is a bit more convoluted than that. I will try to make myself
clearer:
I want to write 3 against 5. In this case, since 3 is smaller than
5, it has to use a rhythmic unit twice longer than the unit
associated with 5. Let's be over-explicit and call this "3 equally
spaced attacks within the duration of 5 sixteenth-notes." Well, I
will argue against most people and most notation manuals and most
modern scores that the only correct way to notate this is 3 eight-
notes against 5 sixteenth notes. Now, neither sibelius nor ENP nor
finale allow me to do this, since they force upon the editor the
assumed notion that nominator and denominator in a tuplet use the
same rhythmic value. This axioma makes it impossible to correctly
notate all possible complex tuplets (with non-binary denominators),
and makes the construction of an algorithm that translates
proportional notation (a la ENP) into lilypond code incredibly
convoluted. I thought lilypond was different - in that I could
stipulate different values for nom and denom - but I am not sure now.
Many people would argue that you can use the same value for both,
since 3 is so close to 5. But that makes your run into a
contradiction. The only way one can stipulate a general and
infallible rule for writing tuplets is that a tuplet is the
insertion of a certain number of rhythmic values into a space that
is smaller. Or, to put it another way, a tuplet - a correct one - is
a compression of the duration of a rhythmic value. Very easy to
prove: how would you write 6 against 5 sixteenths? Well, just like
that. (times 5/6 {c16 c c c c c}. So, if we write 3 against 5, the
value that those three notes take should be 8th notes, because all
we would have to do is aggregate each 2 sixteenths of the 6:5 into
eighth notes. But remember, I want still a total duration of 5
16ths!! So writing times 5/3 {c8 c c} will result in a tuplet twice
as long in duration than what I want, since lily thinks that I want
the duration to be 5 eighth notes. I have to be able to tell
lilypond that I want 3 eighth notes in the space of 5 sixteenth
notes (and that is just one of many examples. Trying to to 3 against
7 is even more complicated since the duration is more than twice the
attack. In 3 against 7, the three should be notated with quarter
notes!). Hope I made myself understood now.
I hope this does not turn into a discussion of the way to notate
tuplets, since there is only one that is actually inequivocal and
consistent. Unfortunately no editor allows one to produce it, which
is a very disturbing fact.
Could lilypond be the one?
cheers
uri
\version "2.11.50"
\relative {
\time 5/16
c16 d e f g
\times 5/6 {a8 f d}
}
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Re: different rhythmic units for tuplet's numerator and denominator
Am 08.07.2008 um 00:04 schrieb Uri Sala:
Dear James,
Thanks but, again, this is misleading, since the numbers in the
bracket would be 6:5 but there would be 3 notes inside the tuplet. I
don't have 6 attacks but 3. This is the kind of cheating I do in
Sibelius, and that I would like to avoid if possible. Sorry to be so
demanding, but isn't this what lilypond should be about? To output
exactly what you want?
Cheers,
Uri
On MondayJul 7, at MonJul 7|23:44 , James E. Bailey wrote:
Am 07.07.2008 um 22:14 schrieb Uri Sala:
It is a bit more convoluted than that. I will try to make myself
clearer:
I want to write 3 against 5.
a tuplet… is a compression of the duration of a rhythmic value. V
\version "2.11.50"
\relative {
\time 5/16
c16 d e f g
\times 5/6 {a8 f d}
}
So, if I understand correctly, you want 3 eighth notes in the space of
3.5 eighth notes, or as you put it, 3 eighth notes in the space of 5
sixteenth notes. You want to have a bracket containing 3 eighth notes
and then the number defining the tuplet to be, I'm assuming, 3 (eighth
note) : 5 (sixteenth)? Do I understand that correctly? If so:
\version "2.11.50"
\relative {
\time 5/16
c16 d e f g
\override TupletNumber #'text = #(markup #:italic "3" #:fontsize
-3 #:note "8" 1 #:italic ":5" #:fontsize -3 #:note "16" 1)
\times 5/6 {a8 f d}
}
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Re: different rhythmic units for tuplet's numerator and denominator
Am 08.07.2008 um 00:04 schrieb Uri Sala:
Dear James,
Thanks but, again, this is misleading, since the numbers in the
bracket would be 6:5 but there would be 3 notes inside the tuplet. I
don't have 6 attacks but 3. This is the kind of cheating I do in
Sibelius, and that I would like to avoid if possible. Sorry to be so
demanding, but isn't this what lilypond should be about? To output
exactly what you want?
Cheers,
Uri
On MondayJul 7, at MonJul 7|23:44 , James E. Bailey wrote:
Am 07.07.2008 um 22:14 schrieb Uri Sala:
It is a bit more convoluted than that. I will try to make myself
clearer:
I want to write 3 against 5.
a tuplet… is a compression of the duration of a rhythmic value. V
\version "2.11.50"
\relative {
\time 5/16
c16 d e f g
\times 5/6 {a8 f d}
}
So, if I understand correctly, you want 3 eighth notes in the space of
3.5 eighth notes, or as you put it, 3 eighth notes in the space of 5
sixteenth notes. You want to have a bracket containing 3 eighth notes
and then the number defining the tuplet to be, I'm assuming, 3 (eighth
note) : 5 (sixteenth)? Do I understand that correctly? If so:
\version "2.11.50"
\relative {
\time 5/16
c16 d e f g
\override TupletNumber #'text = #(markup #:italic "3" #:fontsize
-3 #:note "8" 1 #:italic ":5" #:fontsize -3 #:note "16" 1)
\times 5/6 {a8 f d}
}
I'm sure you don't mean to be, but you come off sounding kind of whiny
and complaining, and expecting that someone else should solve your
problems for you. That's not a really good way to get help, especially
from a volunteer project.
That being said, this is the last time I'll help you with this
problem. If you can't figure it out on your own, then perhaps you
should find a better way being right, in the face of everone else.
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
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sustainOn
See, this is why I should subscribe to the development list… While changing sustainDown/sustainUp to sustainOn/sustainOff makes sense in the lilypond internals, it really doesn't make sense musically. No one is going to confuse placing a sustain marking above the staff. They don't go there, they never go there, that makes about as much sense as putting guitar fretting or tablature below the staff, they don't go there, it would be confusing to have the option. sustainDown was one of the things that makes lilypond so normal. You play a piano, you push down on the pedal, and it sustains. In computer terms, something is switched on, but computer language doesn't have to mimic what the computer does. Lilypond syntax is really logical, this is a step in the illogical direction, if you ask me. It's up there with changing figured bass so that it's input backwards from how anyone conceptualises the musical term. I vote, as a pianist, for sustainDown/sustainUp. Who's with me? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Arbitrary changes?
Am 09.07.2008 um 09:00 schrieb hhpmusic: Hi, I downloaded 2.11.51, and there are two problems: 1) some syntaxes are changed such as \sustainOn and \sustainOff. I have no time to re-read the manuals, but the news page has no indication of it at the top. So \setTextCresc and \setHairpinCresc are also obsolete. Could someone provide a list of the syntax changes? I was really upset by all of the changes to predefined commands, but then I thought about it and realised, okay, convert-ly works the files I have, and maybe one day there will be a changelog with the changes to the predefined commands, until then, I can use the search function in my browser to find out how to write something, but ultimately, I don't really have a say in the matter. I'm not developing the software, and it's still amazingly better than any of the other options. So, we can move on, or not upgrade. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Arbitrary changes?
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dynamic spanner help
I've not understood this for a while, and I figure I should probably
ask about it. When I have dynamics in a variable, the text spanner
shows up and I can't get rid of it.
\version "2.11.51"
\layout {
\context {
\type "Engraver_group"
\name VocalDynamics
\alias Voice
\consists Text_engraver
\consists "Dynamic_engraver"
\consists "Text_engraver"
\override TextScript #'font-shape = #'italic
}
\context {\Staff \accepts VocalDynamics}
}
Voice = \relative { e1 f g e a g f d }
VoiceDynamics = \new VocalDynamics {
\override DynamicTextSpanner #'dash-period = #-1.0
\dimTextDim
s1*3\> s1\!
\crescTextCresc
s1*3\< s1\!
\setHairpinDim
}
\score {
\new Staff << \VoiceDynamics \Voice>>
\layout {}
}
\relative c'' {
\override DynamicTextSpanner #'dash-period = #-1.0
\crescTextCresc
c1\< | d | b | c\!
}
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Also, the \crescTextCresc and \dimTextDim work like there's a \once in
front of them when they're in the variable.
\version "2.11.51"
\layout {
\context {
\type "Engraver_group"
\name VocalDynamics
\alias Voice
\consists Text_engraver
\consists "Dynamic_engraver"
\consists "Text_engraver"
\override TextScript #'font-shape = #'italic
}
\context {\Staff \accepts VocalDynamics}
}
Voice = \relative { e1 f g e a g f d }
VoiceDynamics = \new VocalDynamics {
\override DynamicTextSpanner #'dash-period = #-1.0
\dimTextDim
s1*3\> s1\!
\crescTextCresc
s1*3\< s1\!
\setHairpinDim
}
AlternateDynamics = \new VocalDynamics {
\dimTextDim
s1 s\> s s\!
s1 s\> s s\!
}
\score {
\new Staff << \VoiceDynamics \Voice>>
\layout {}
}
\score {
\new Staff << \AlternateDynamics \Voice >>
\layout {}
}
\relative c'' {
\override DynamicTextSpanner #'dash-period = #-1.0
\crescTextCresc
c1\< | d | b | c\!
c\< d b c\!
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Re: Frech trills and slurs. A bug?
Am 09.07.2008 um 12:46 schrieb Francesco Spiga:
I have a problem which was also reported by Franz-Rudolf Kuhnen some
times ago.
Lilypond places by default articulation symbols below the slurs.
So, if I try to mark a trill by a "+" (like in ancient French
music), and above the note with trill there's a slur, the agrement
is placed below the slur, instead of being above, as trills should be.
\version "2.11.51"
\score {
\relative c'' <<
\new Staff {
\time 2/4
b4( ais8._+) b16
>>
}
Is it possible to deplace the + above the slur? I tried the command
\once \override Script #'padding - #*.* but nothing has changed.
Thank you
F.
Hopefully this gets you closer. You can specify whether scripts are
inside or outside slurs
\version "2.11.51"
\relative c''
{
\override Script #'avoid-slur = #'outside
\time 2/4
\stemDown b4_( ais8._+) b16
}
\relative c''
{
\time 2/4
\stemDown b4_( ais8._+) b16
}
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Re: convert-ly...
Am 08.07.2008 um 21:09 schrieb Graham Percival: On Tue, 8 Jul 2008 21:01:03 +0200 Wilbert Berendsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Op dinsdag 8 juli 2008, schreef Stan Sanderson: ...is not my friend. Mac OS 10.4.11, PPC, Lilypond 2.11.51 Are you using Python 2.4 or newer? I thought configure already requires Python to be 2.4 or higher. The decorator syntax needs at least Python 2.4. OSX 10.4.11 uses python 2.3. MAO! We'll have to ask everybody to install macpython or macports python or fink python. I didn't notice this because that's what I do. To be fair, Wilbert, lilypond-book already requires python 2.4, so this is just clarifying our requirements. Unless we can dump python into GUB as well. :( For the record, I still think that the decorator function was great. Cheers, - Graham I'm confused, I have osx 10.5 (intel) and convert-ly doesn't work for me. 11:18:59 jamesebailey ~/Documents/other's music/gibbons/ah dear heart/ python --version 11:21:14 jamesebailey //python --version Python 2.5.1 11:21:26 jamesebailey //convert-ly Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/bin/convert-ly", line 40, in import lilylib as ly ImportError: No module named lilylib I have lilylib.py and lilylib.pyc in /usr/local/share/lilypond/2.11.51/ python/ ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: dynamic spanner help
Am 09.07.2008 um 23:34 schrieb Patrick McCarty: Hi James, On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 9:35 AM, James E. Bailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 8:25 AM, James E. Bailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've not understood this for a while, and I figure I should probably ask about it. When I have dynamics in a variable, the text spanner shows up and I can't get rid of it. Also, the \crescTextCresc and \dimTextDim work like there's a \once in front of them when they're in the variable. The Dynamic_engraver was recently split into the "New_dynamic_engraver" and the "Dynamic_align_engraver", so if you include these engravers instead of Dynamic_engraver, both of your examples will work. Here's the latter one (modified): HTH, Patrick Thanks tons, so, what does the Dynamic_engraver do then? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Adding a staff in the middle of a piece
Am 09.07.2008 um 17:07 schrieb Francesco Spiga: I'm sorry for my telegraph-style question: is it possible to start a piece with, e.g. 3 staves ad add one more some measures later? Thank you F. There are several ways, you can use \stopStaff and \startStaff or search the manuals for frenched score ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
staff switches
Is it possible to have staff switches in a separate variable? I was
thinking somthing along the lines of
voiceA = \relative {
c4 d e g,
f e e' d
}
voiceAswitches = {
s2. \change Staff = "LH" s4
s2 \change Staff = "RH" s2
}
\score {
\new PianoStaff
<<
\new Staff = "RH" \voiceA
\new Staff = "LH" <<\clef bass s1*2>>
>>
}
but that doesn't work out so well for me. Any suggestions?
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Re: staff switches
Am 13.07.2008 um 05:52 schrieb Kieren MacMillan:
Hi James,
Here's a perfect reason to use \context Voice instead of — or
rather, in addition to — \new Voice:
Once the Voice context has been created and populated with the
notes, you are then able to "cram the staff switch information" down
its throat by referencing it using the \context Voice construct. =)
Hope this helps!
Kieren.
Wow, you know I was so close in my original. I had originally voiceA =
\new Voice = "voicea" \relative { music } voiceAswitches = \context
Voice = "voicea" { switches }. And then in my \score block, \new Staff
<<\voiceA \voiceAswitches>>
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nopc
I actually needed to look into the documentation to turn off point-and-
click 'cause I accidentally deleted my global file that has it, and I
see various options.
in section 6.2.1,
#(define (nopc)
(ly:set-option 'point-and-click #f))
...
#(nopc)
{ c'4 }
and
in 6.1.5
noPointAndClick =
#(define-music-function (parser location) ()
(ly:set-option 'point-and-click #f)
(make-music 'SequentialMusic 'void #t))
...
\noPointAndClick % disable point and click
and
in 3.1.3
#(ly:set-option 'point-and-click #f)
The last one is apparently deprecated. My question is which should I
start using, or does it matter 'cause they all seem to be to be
different ways of saying the same thing?
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Re: nopc -- Proposed Predefines
Am 14.07.2008 um 04:21 schrieb Carl Sorensen: Mats Bengtsson ee.kth.se> writes: James E. Bailey wrote: in 3.1.3 #(ly:set-option 'point-and-click #f) The last one is apparently deprecated. Why? The first two are only interesting if you have your own standard include file with utility functions. I guess that most users will copy paste the code from the manual or from some previous file and in that case, the third option is easiest to use, since it's only a single line. Considering the recent trend to add predefined commands to LilyPond, I'm surprised that noone has proposed to add the \noPointAndClick function. I prefer that one to the #(nopc) since it avoids the Scheme syntax for the end user. OK, I'll bite. I propose some new predefined functions: \pointAndClickOn pointAndClickOn = #(ly:set-option 'point-and-click #t) and \pointAndClickOff pointAndClickOff = #(ly:set-option 'point-and-click #f) If I get approval, I'll add them. Any votes? Carl I think it's brilliant, and I've always wondered why it was so difficult to turn the feature off. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: nopc -- Proposed Predefines
I don't know if this is really crowding the LilyPond namespace with a feature that as far as I know is in one tool attached to a specific editor. I mean, if that's the case, why have any editor features as predefined commands in the first place? Am 14.07.2008 um 09:26 schrieb Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool): Yeah, it was very difficult. Exactly 3 clicks in LilyPondTool since years. (LilyPond > Source editing > Toggle point-and-click) I don't think we should crowd the LilyPond command namespace with editor features. Bert James E. Bailey wrote: Am 14.07.2008 um 04:21 schrieb Carl Sorensen: Mats Bengtsson ee.kth.se> writes: James E. Bailey wrote: in 3.1.3 #(ly:set-option 'point-and-click #f) The last one is apparently deprecated. Why? The first two are only interesting if you have your own standard include file with utility functions. I guess that most users will copy paste the code from the manual or from some previous file and in that case, the third option is easiest to use, since it's only a single line. Considering the recent trend to add predefined commands to LilyPond, I'm surprised that noone has proposed to add the \noPointAndClick function. I prefer that one to the #(nopc) since it avoids the Scheme syntax for the end user. OK, I'll bite. I propose some new predefined functions: \pointAndClickOn pointAndClickOn = #(ly:set-option 'point-and-click #t) and \pointAndClickOff pointAndClickOff = #(ly:set-option 'point-and-click #f) If I get approval, I'll add them. Any votes? Carl I think it's brilliant, and I've always wondered why it was so difficult to turn the feature off. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: nopc -- Proposed Predefines
personally, I like having predefined commands. I don't know how to say \key fis \major in scheme, and I don't want to know. Leaving that kind of predefined command to the editor forces everyone to use an (or the) editor that can send that kind of information. The predefined commands are a really great thing for end users. Am 14.07.2008 um 10:31 schrieb Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool): Very good point :-) This is my real question as well. I remember this is not the first time that a new predefined command is added (or requested) for something that could be better handled with the editor. Bert James E. Bailey wrote: I don't know if this is really crowding the LilyPond namespace with a feature that as far as I know is in one tool attached to a specific editor. I mean, if that's the case, why have any editor features as predefined commands in the first place? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: nopc -- Proposed Predefines
Am 14.07.2008 um 12:28 schrieb Carl D. Sorensen: On 7/14/08 3:24 AM, "Nicolas Sceaux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Le 14 juil. 08 à 04:21, Carl Sorensen a écrit : I propose some new predefined functions: \pointAndClickOn pointAndClickOn = #(ly:set-option 'point-and-click #t) and \pointAndClickOff pointAndClickOff = #(ly:set-option 'point-and-click #f) These do not do what you think they do. When the first "pointAndClickOn = ..." is read by the parser, the scheme expression that is following is evaluated, and thus point-and-click is turned on. pointAndClickOn then holds the value returned by ly:set-option (which is #t I guess). So what you have done here, is to set pointAndclickOn to #t, and pointAndClickOff to #f, and turned on then off the point and click function. The music function mentionned by James in the first place did what you want: noPointAndClick = #(define-music-function (parser location) () (ly:set-option 'point-and-click #f) (make-music 'SequentialMusic 'void #t)) here, the option is set when \noPointAndClick is invoked, not when it is defined. Thanks, Nicolas. I should have recognized that, because I've just been doing some work with void music functions. OK, so now we have the right functions; do we want to have this added as a predefined command? So far I count one yes and one no on user. Carl What's the disadvantage to having it as a predefined function? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: How to join plain + markup text in a single syllable?
Am 16.07.2008 um 13:35 schrieb Francisco Vila:
Hello all,
Attached is what I want and what I get; in a single note we have:
- last letter of a previous word
- an italic apostrophe
- first letter of the next word, also italic
Not only I cannot join all of this onto a single note, I also obtain
errors for the next syllable (unfinished hyphen).
Any ideas?
The complete code of the attempt is:
\version "2.11.52"
{ \time 3/8 \autoBeamOff a'8 a'16 a' a' a' }
\addlyrics { bien ha -- y \markup{ \italic "'a" } -- que -- ya }
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What you need here is a printer's mark, not an apostrophe, which is
what the ' character on your keyboard is. On a macintosh, to get that
character, you use shift+option=] and it creates the character ’ as
opposed to the ' which is just a hash mark.
\version "2.11.52"
{ \time 3/8 \autoBeamOff a'8 a'16 a' a' a' }
\addlyrics { bien ha -- y’a -- que -- ya }
\paper {ragged-right = ##f }
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Re: How to join plain + markup text in a single syllable?
Am 16.07.2008 um 16:45 schrieb Francisco Vila:
Thank you, James and Roman, the concat solves the undesired space
problem.
Now, if several words are in italics, I'm sure there is a better form
than to repeat \markup{\italic...} for each syllable. Do you know of
any?
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I use \override LyricText #'font-shape = #'italic
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Re: I love editor arguments:)
Am 16.07.2008 um 21:20 schrieb Patrick Horgan: I believe the truth is more along the lines of duckling imprinting-- you know that ducklings imprint on whatever moves first and think that that thing, duck, dog or person, is mommy. We do the same with whatever editor we learned well enough to work with first. For me it was vi. I've learned emacs several times in my life and am able to use it effectively right after relearning it, but the whole time, I yearn for vi. I don't make the mistake of saying vi is better, nor emacs or kate or whatever. If it does the job, and you like it best, then it's the best for you. (Actually vi is better ). Patrick I think any of these arguments are funny, I've had the pleasure to watch a couple. Honestly, the only reason I use an editor is for lilypond. In fact, until I was forced to use an editor because of the 10.5 intel problem, I didn't even know what an editor was. I use nano. It gets the job done, and I don't have to learn an editor :) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Shouldn't articulation 'stick' to note-heads?
Am 17.07.2008 um 07:10 schrieb George_: hi guys I was wondering if there were a way to make articulation 'stick' to a notehead, no matter where it is? I use 2.11.49 on XP, and I have a two-part melody, the lower voice is to be played staccato, like so: http://www.nabble.com/file/p18501666/1.jpg Except in the lily output, the staccato dots are (as shown) on the stem side of the note-head. Is there a way to make these articulations go over the notes? Or is this just a bug? Thanks George -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Shouldn%27t-articulation-%27stick%27-to-note-heads--tp18501666p18501666.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.10/Documentation/user/lilypond/Articulations#Articulations shows how to force above or below notehead articulations. As far as I know, that section hasn't been rewritten yet for the 2.11 docs. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Shouldn't articulation 'stick' to note-heads?
Am 17.07.2008 um 07:10 schrieb George_: hi guys I was wondering if there were a way to make articulation 'stick' to a notehead, no matter where it is? I use 2.11.49 on XP, and I have a two-part melody, the lower voice is to be played staccato, like so: http://www.nabble.com/file/p18501666/1.jpg Except in the lily output, the staccato dots are (as shown) on the stem side of the note-head. Is there a way to make these articulations go over the notes? Or is this just a bug? Thanks George -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Shouldn%27t-articulation-%27stick%27-to-note-heads--tp18501666p18501666.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.10/Documentation/user/lilypond/Articulations#Articulations shows how to force above or below notehead articulations. As far as I know, that section hasn't been rewritten yet for the 2.11 docs. Look at that, someone updated that section! Yay! ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: GDP: NR 1.3 Expressive, first draft
Am 17.07.2008 um 00:28 schrieb Graham Percival: I'm happy to announce the first draft of NR 1.3 Expressive! Thanks go to Patrick. Please proofread this carefully; if you find any mistakes, omissions, or anything that's unclear, please post it here! GDP website: http://web.uvic.ca/~gperciva/ Cheers, - Graham Should I help with the german translation? I haven't read any of the other pre-release documentation, but it looks like the german translation could use another volunteer. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
combined time signature
Just out of curiousity, is there way to do either the clef or the time
signature for real?
\version "2.11.52"
{
\override Staff.Clef #'stencil = #ly:text-interface::print
\override Staff.Clef #'text = \markup {\musicglyph #"clefs.G"
\hspace #-1.7 \musicglyph #"clefs.G"}
\override Staff.TimeSignature #'stencil = #ly:text-interface::print
\override Staff.TimeSignature #'text = \markup { \musicglyph
#"timesig.neomensural64" \hspace #-1.0 \lower #1.0 { \musicglyph
#"three" } }
\time 6/4
R1.
}
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Re: Cannot move an accent articulation
Am 17.07.2008 um 18:54 schrieb Marco Caliari: Hi all. Finally (and here I need your help), I would like to move the accent articulation in the second last bar close to the c notehead (as in the fourth last bar), but \override Script #'Y-offset does not seem to work. You need to set the avoid-slur property of the Script. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Still confused about context vs. new
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adding a location to the lilypond path
I'm just curious if it's possible to add a location to my lilypond path. I've managed to build lilypond from source (and it's much faster), and I'm just wondering if there's an easy way to add folder with some \include files that I occasionally or frequently use. Something simple like ~/lilypond_includes/ ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lilypond under Leopard
Am 18.07.2008 um 20:05 schrieb Alberto Simões: Hi, Folks No, I am not asking how to install Lilypond in Leopard. I know there are at least two options: - to compile it from the source, using a set of instructions and macports (that installs/reinstalls almost everything) - and another option that is to use the G4 binary (the one I use, as the previous one failed) My question is another (or, my questions...) - is it known why the 10.4 binary doesn't work under 10.5? - if so, is there any work on preparing a standard binary for Leopard? Cheers Alberto -- Alberto Simões - Departamento de Informática - Universidade do Minho Campus de Gualtar - 4710-057 Braga - Portugal See http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=504&start=100 The issue is known and a standard binary is currently postponed ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lilypond under Leopard
Yeah, the broken macports just got me to the concludsion that I should build everything myself (which worked except for netpbm), and the resulting application is *much* faster. Am 19.07.2008 um 14:51 schrieb Eric Knapp: I have successfully compiled lilypond 2.11.50 and 2.11.52 on my mac. It is worth the effort since the resulting application is so much faster. How did your efforts fail? MacPorts can be fussy and I had to do some juggling of dependencies to get everything installed correctly. And a few of the required ports were broken the day I tried the install. When that happens you have to know the macports system pretty well to get things running. Maybe I can help you? Let me know if you want to try again with some assistance. -Eric On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 1:05 PM, Alberto Simões <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, Folks No, I am not asking how to install Lilypond in Leopard. I know there are at least two options: - to compile it from the source, using a set of instructions and macports (that installs/reinstalls almost everything) - and another option that is to use the G4 binary (the one I use, as the previous one failed) My question is another (or, my questions...) - is it known why the 10.4 binary doesn't work under 10.5? - if so, is there any work on preparing a standard binary for Leopard? Cheers Alberto -- Alberto Simões - Departamento de Informática - Universidade do Minho Campus de Gualtar - 4710-057 Braga - Portugal ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lilypond under Leopard
So you know, I can't build the documenation, and I have to turn that off in the configure flags --without-documentation or else my build would fail. Also, see nicolas' excellent directions here http://nicolas.sceaux.free.fr/index.php/2008/04/10/26 Am 19.07.2008 um 18:17 schrieb Alberto Simões: Hi, Eric The first thing that got me crazy was to install latex using macports, when I have my own installation (mactex) running well. But wasn't that the failing portion. It was during lilypond build. But, thanks for your help. I might ask for it, as I am really tempted to try again. Thanks Eric Knapp wrote: I have successfully compiled lilypond 2.11.50 and 2.11.52 on my mac. It is worth the effort since the resulting application is so much faster. How did your efforts fail? MacPorts can be fussy and I had to do some juggling of dependencies to get everything installed correctly. And a few of the required ports were broken the day I tried the install. When that happens you have to know the macports system pretty well to get things running. Maybe I can help you? Let me know if you want to try again with some assistance. -Eric On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 1:05 PM, Alberto Simões <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, Folks No, I am not asking how to install Lilypond in Leopard. I know there are at least two options: - to compile it from the source, using a set of instructions and macports (that installs/reinstalls almost everything) - and another option that is to use the G4 binary (the one I use, as the previous one failed) My question is another (or, my questions...) - is it known why the 10.4 binary doesn't work under 10.5? - if so, is there any work on preparing a standard binary for Leopard? Cheers Alberto -- Alberto Simões - Departamento de Informática - Universidade do Minho Campus de Gualtar - 4710-057 Braga - Portugal ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Alberto Simões - Departamento de Informática - Universidade do Minho Campus de Gualtar - 4710-057 Braga - Portugal ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
emacs questions
I'm wondering if anyone here uses emacs on macintosh and how they go about it. I have currently installed the default OSX cli emacs, version 22.11, Emacs.app (version 23.0.0) and Aquamacs Emacs.app (version 22.2.50.2) each gets some things well, and others not so well. First, I have edited my aquamacs-mode-defaults.el and ~/.emacs so that they have lilypond-mode installed. And I've edited lilypond mode so that it correctly opens pdf and midi files. That's the best I've gotten so far. With aquamacs, I can see the shortcuts to let me know that C-c C-l compiles, I have no idea where to find that information in the cli version or Emacs.app. Is there documentation somewhere on where I can those options in the other Emacs? Ideally, I'd like to be able to just use the command line version (since I'm coming from nano, and it could just be another screen in my screen session) Aquamacs Emacs and the cli emacs can both compile lilypond files. Emacs.app doesn't seem to load my $PATH correctly, because I get /bin/ bash: lilypond: command not found All flavors can open the pdfs and midi files. I haven't gotten around to trying to figure out folding yet. Also, and this is probably just an emacs question, but, if there's an error in my file, and I use the compilation window to fix it, it's in a new temp file, and those changes are saved, but they aren't in my main file, and I haven't gotten far along enough in the tutorial to know how to make those changes show up in my main file, any quick place I can look for that, 'cause that's kinda annoying. In short, I guess I'm just wondering where the lilypond emacs tutorial for someone who's new to emacs is. I'm totally new to this, I'm not really convinced it's better than nano, and I'm taking some time to try and get better with these things since it's summer break, so I thought I'd ask. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Short-indent does not seem to work
On 23.07.2008, at 10:02, Arno Rog wrote: L.S. or a large orchestral score I need to repeat the short instrument names on all but the first page. They print fine, but I need some more space to print. Unfortunately, it looks like short-indent (http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond/Instrument-names#Instrument-names ) does not work! James Bailey has mentioned this before in march 2008 (http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnu.lilypond.general/35875/match=short+indent ), no reply though. I don't know if it's broken, or I just don't know how to use it, but my current workaround is to adjust the line-width and the horizontal shift ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
building docs
I've almost got all of my errors sorted out. Making the documentation fails for me with: dyld: lazy symbol binding failed: Symbol not found: _hebrew_shaper_get_next_cluster Referenced from: /usr/local/lib/pango/1.6.0/modules/pango-hebrew- fc.so Expected in: flat namespace dyld: Symbol not found: _hebrew_shaper_get_next_cluster Referenced from: /usr/local/lib/pango/1.6.0/modules/pango-hebrew- fc.so Expected in: flat namespace Is this related to the discussion on the developer list? http://lists.gnu.org/archive/cgi-bin/namazu.cgi?query=LSR%2C+Latex%2C+UTF-8&submit=Search&idxname=lilypond-devell or, is there something that I'm missing. For what it's worth, I'm building on osx, and I'm not using macports (if it's something that's automatically taken care of by a macports thing) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Variable number of voices on one staff
\oneVoice is still your friend, though.
Am 26.07.2008 um 11:14 schrieb Jordan Eldredge:
Thank you.
Firstly, I understand why my method does not work. I guess what I am
asking for is a different method.
Secondly, thanks!
Here is updated example code.
\version "2.10.25"
aVoice = \relative c'' {r4 d4 c |g'> | 2 g}
anotherVoice = \relative c'' {s1 | s1 | s2 d,4 bes}
<<{\aVoice} \\ {\anotherVoice}>>
-Jordan Eldredge
On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 1:21 AM, Francisco Vila
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
2008/7/26 Jordan Eldredge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> What I want: When there is only once voice, the stems should
behave as such.
> In measures where there are two voices, the stems should be
dependent on
> voice.
Firstly, you see one voice, but two voices exist. So, first voice is
voice One in a polyphony situation, it will always have stems up.
Maybe \oneVoice is your friend.
Secondly: \voiceOne .. \voiceFour are predefined macros, they are
reserved words that may confuse LilyPond (and you). Choose other names
for music variables.
--
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Re: I know you've heard this before
I don't have much time to respond, but he easy way is to download the PPC version, and run it using the command line options. Directions are in the Application Usage for command line usage specific to Mac OSX. Am 25.07.2008 um 03:52 schrieb Carol Viera: Hi, I'm on Mac OS X version 10.5.4 Leopard (Intel processor) and the menu for the Lilypond app has nothing on it but the Lilypond item. Yes, I downloaded the script editor which i tried to run (result) but nothing happened, having input the filename, without the .ly from the text editor, a file i actually just copied from your tutorial and i put with an .ly into a folder in my documents, the folder being names LilyPondFiles (or whatever I was told to name it). I've read the supposed other stuff specific to Leopard (yes, I downloaded the version for G3, G4, etc) and tried to follow the other directions but i'm getting nowhere. I even searched online and only figured out that others have this problem too. Do you have a dummies version of the instructions? Thanks! CV ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: I know you've heard this before
I would also add that lilypondtool with jedit is probably the easiest method. Am 25.07.2008 um 03:52 schrieb Carol Viera: Hi, I'm on Mac OS X version 10.5.4 Leopard (Intel processor) and the menu for the Lilypond app has nothing on it but the Lilypond item. Yes, I downloaded the script editor which i tried to run (result) but nothing happened, having input the filename, without the .ly from the text editor, a file i actually just copied from your tutorial and i put with an .ly into a folder in my documents, the folder being names LilyPondFiles (or whatever I was told to name it). I've read the supposed other stuff specific to Leopard (yes, I downloaded the version for G3, G4, etc) and tried to follow the other directions but i'm getting nowhere. I even searched online and only figured out that others have this problem too. Do you have a dummies version of the instructions? Thanks! CV ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: I know you've heard this before
Sorry, I can't (maybe others can) I don't use jEdit. I use nano, it has no lilypond support, so I don't have to worry about getting some special mode to work in another editor, and the command line instructions in the documentation are very clear and they work. Am 26.07.2008 um 23:24 schrieb Carl Sorensen: James E. Bailey mac.com> writes: I would also add that lilypondtool with jedit is probably the easiest method. Can you give me a hint or two about getting lilypondtool to work with OSX? I'm an OSX newbie, and I haven't been able to get lilypondtool to work properly. Thanks, Carl ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: I know you've heard this before
Looks like I was mistaken, lilypondtool is for windows. Am 26.07.2008 um 23:24 schrieb Carl Sorensen: James E. Bailey mac.com> writes: I would also add that lilypondtool with jedit is probably the easiest method. Can you give me a hint or two about getting lilypondtool to work with OSX? I'm an OSX newbie, and I haven't been able to get lilypondtool to work properly. Thanks, Carl ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
